Goop, She Did It Again

26:58Jennifer:Play the clip. Oh, not again. Who decided morning should be so early?

27:11Jennifer:Even my coffee needs a coffee. Waking up for a morning run can be brutal. But it's a price I'm willing to pay. Because once I hit the park, pure energy takes over. It's hard to explain.

27:36Jennifer:There's a reason the world's most iconic buildings are by a park. 51 Park. New York? Marzalia. Israel. 51 Park. Shni migdala ukraha vney 51 kumot. Zimud le park herzalia. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Waking up for a morning run can be brutal when a stone's throw from there. There's a genocide going on. Right. They're shooting kids. Here's the deal. I honestly, what I expected the follow-up from Gwyneth, because I am so naive, I expected the follow-up to be her getting on a microphone and saying, I listened to myself and I'm not happy with the way that came off. And it sounded insensitive, blah, blah, blah.

28:26I expected some kind of course correction. I did not expect a full-blown double down.

28:35Jennifer:Yeah, I thought it was intentional when she sat down with the AI guy that that company is funding a lot of Israel stuff. And when you get to be a celebrity of Gwyneth Paltrow's stature, there aren't accidents that happen where she wondered on some podcast and she didn't have a team of people that vetted it. I realize now that was the appetizer. She was running interference to prep her audience that she was going to be the spokesperson for these$10 million apartments. Critics noted that Herzilia Seafront was the site of the Palestinian village Al-Haram, and it was emptied in 1948. And, you know, this is a moment where you really see if people have conviction or not.

29:36Jennifer:And there's a through line that I see with people that are uncritically thinking Israel supporters, that are supporters of unregulated capitalism, that are supporters of Elon Musk, that are supporters of MAGA. the through line in all of that is once you agree that it's okay to exploit a certain group of people no matter what that group is black people gay people palestinians what have you once you make that bargain in your moral compass the breakage from there is just off a cliff and you see that here with gwyneth paltrow this is a woman who you know she's had a very successful career in the United States.

30:20Jennifer:She didn't need the money from being the spokesperson on this. This is a political statement. There's a cruelty to this. And she said on the podcast we just listened to that, you know, her husband thinks she's a Republican, but she's not a Republican. This is just so when the world is watching this genocide take place and these kids getting shot and millions of Lebanese people being displaced. This isn't about anti-Semitism or Jewish people. It's about we have to criticize far-right fascist governments. They must be criticized. And right now the United States is worthy of all of the criticism in the world.

31:03Jennifer:And if there were some famous French actress and she was offered by some American company to do something on a site where a village used to live. And she said, no, I would understand why. I mean, this is beyond, there's an intentional cruelty to this. There's an intentional in your face about this stuff that I don't like about this stuff. I don't like that people with platforms like Gwyneth Paltrow could really make a difference for LGBTQ plus community, which is under attack. the dismantling of the Voting Rights Act here. I mean, the rise in anti-Black racism is off the chart in this country.

31:47Jennifer:It is incredible. And that so many of these actors do not use their platform to stand up for another are those that do. And she's aware of this. She's aware of the Javier Bardem. She's aware of the Mark Ruffalo's. She's aware that a lot of people in Hollywood want to boycott films that were shot in Israel because they're committing so many war crimes. So this isn't accidental. This is intentional. There's an intentional cruelty to Gwyneth Paltrow's choice of the way she wants to earn money right now. You know, I, you have always, and I think the listener knows this, but I'll state it clearly. Your mind has much more clarity and clicks faster than mine.

32:33It always has. And once I think about it. So when you said the cruelty day before yesterday, I really processed that. And I was like, you're right. And it is intentional. And I go back to, well, maybe she made this ad before, you know, October 7th and before the genocide. But then the reality is this has all been done recently it is a political statement there are no oopsies in her level of elite one percent I wouldn't think she is surrounded by people that are protecting her image at all times so having processed it I have to say I've enjoyed her movies but I will never go see another Gwyneth Paltrow movie like I'm out it's just too sad I think there's just this

33:30Jennifer:intentional cruelty to um to her now I just think when you have a microphone what she does and you have autonomy over which ads you can be in which she does and this is what you're choosing in light of a woman who has catapulted to her success with on the backs of a lot of really creative, marginalized people that despite the Gwyneth Paltrow's of the world, were able to be the makeup artist, were able to be the fashion designer, were able to be the sound guy on set. And she's been able to work in a diverse work environment. But obviously when it comes to her private time, it's cracker city. and it is white supremacist shit because this is it's just so it's so disappointing that like and then here's the thing too like i guess i have to say this at least we know where she stands right you know like a maga person that has the maga flag and all the shit at least we know okay gwyneth paltrow is a fascist gwyneth paltrow supports fascism gwyneth paltrow is not at all bothered remotely by the war crimes being committed by israel and the united states of america you know this is presumably after the start of the iran war you know this is crazy shit and if it wasn't after she has enough money enough lawyers enough to say we need to rescind her participation in this condominium project thing yeah so that's right yeah it's just it's thank god i mean chris Martin is probably like, I'm so glad we consciously uncoupled, you know, he's like, you're goddamn right.

35:15Jennifer:It was conscious. It was consciously uncoupling. She is a piece of work. Yeah. And I always liked her. I always liked all of her movies and stuff, but God, I mean, when somebody shows you who, who they are, believe them. Right. That is, that is, those are the truest words. And I have failed throughout my life to follow those words. And I have to work every day to follow those words because I'm always thinking, well, that's, that can be what somebody meant. You know what I mean? And so when someone shows you who they are, believe them is something that I have to consciously be aware of all the time.

35:53because giving people the benefit of the doubt and trying to rationalize this kind of behavior, it's not possible. And it's a fool's errand.

36:04Jennifer:Totally. Okay. Let's listen to a couple of voice memos. Um, since we're kind of doing this split show, here's Kylie. We're all in different outfits. It's a different day, but my God, who knew that, uh, Gwyneth Paltrow would be driving the news cycle. Kylie, what did you make of all that? It's super disappointing. I always liked Gwyneth. I did too. But your point in just working in the industry, we do. Her own team put out that clip. They clipped it and they put it out themselves. So one, yeah, it was on purpose. It was completely planned. And I think it was ahead of this ad just to kind of set the soil.

36:40And a lot of people on Twitter are saying this is like advertising luxury apartments in Nazi Germany. It's exactly what it is. During the peak of the Holocaust. so yeah i don't think there's any room for excuses for her and it's so lazy yeah to me it's so morally

36:55Jennifer:lazy to support uh the world that has enabled her to be where she is right now it's the laziest thing on the planet if i wanted to be morally lazy i could hang out with all white people not read beyond anything that benefits me not vote beyond anything that personally benefits me I could go vote my pocketbook. I could only be interested in white upper class people. I could do that. That's what Gwyneth Paltrow does, but it's so morally lazy to do it. What I'm interested in having in my life are the people who are morally curious, not just intellectually curious, but morally curious. How do I become a better person?

37:37Jennifer:For a lot of people, they try to find that answer in religion. And if you actually genuinely do become a better person through religion, good on you. I'm not a big religious person. But for me, I found that answer to be diversity. Diversity not only in skin color, not only in country of origin, but diversity in income. Hanging around with people that are different from you. And that's why these people are so terrified of the New York cities of the world. That's why Fox News is so triggered by blue cities because diversity is the antidote to this big ridiculous shit show that we just saw Gwyneth Paltrow partake in.

38:19Jennifer:She's morally lazy, intellectually lazy. And I mean, you know, for me, I mean, it's just like, it's over. I will never, ever go watch a Gwyneth Paltrow movie that she consciously did this, just like when Chris Martin consciously uncoupled from her, which now Now I completely understand. Yeah. Now it makes so much more sense. Okay. Voice memo. Okay. Up first, we've got Ben. Okay. I've recorded this like four times to get it right, but hello, Patriots, Gaytriots, Patriots. I've had it. I love you guys. Jen and Pumps, I remember you from Bravo years ago. So I have been with you since day one. Happy Pride Month to Kylie with the best blonde hair.

39:08I hear that compliments get these through. And hello to the new gay triad on the podcast, whose name I'm forgetting right now, so I suck. And Seth. Anyways, what I've had it with that I just realized is walking down the street is ball caps. And specifically the ones that have, like, an object or a phrase on them. You know, like one that just says, Margs, like the girl I just saw walking. Like, we get it, Stacey. You're a terrible drunk. You get wasted, schnookered off of two margaritas and fall off the bar stool. No one wants to drink with you. Like, why do we need all these ball caps that just say words on them of objects you identify with?

39:51Like, drunk. I don't know. Is anybody else seeing an upswing of the hat epidemic? We must stop this. It's a pandemic. And then the other thing I've had it with is Pomp's not getting laid. I think about it often. We need to get her some penis or venus, if you know what I mean. So come on. It's pride. You need some dick or some whatever. Okay. Love you guys. Bye. Pomp. Yeah. You know what the best part about that? If you brought out a truth that you and I haven't browbeat Kylie about. if you compliment kylie you're more likely to get your voice memo through i thought that was a real

40:33Jennifer:oh you know what this is just this is i'm gonna unleash the most sycophantic voice memo bullshit on the planet and i'm in new york with i have to work with her every day you get to log in briefly and then you're out your way i'm in this all day every day eight hours a day with her so she's talking around saying how popular and great she is all the compliments so angie what do you have to say about uh getting i'm ready are you ready to like sex huh are you going do you think you're going to like sex again taking way too long to answer well i'm just saying it's all you need already answered it you already answered let's move on to the like it let's move on to the hat like it you think let's move on to the hat thing and it's the one word marg and i love that you called her stacy um it's not only just with hats that are doing these names it's also like restaurants and bars and businesses like i got an idea we'll open up a bar and everything will be a liquid right and so we're going to name the bar liquid that's it and then let's do liquid period that's it and everybody's like definitely let's workshop that even a little bit more and they come back what we thought is all lowercase liquid period and there's just this whole movement and it's like it's really not you really didn't accomplish that much with the whole thing great simple name but it's it started it's it's going everywhere this is the i'm still in the bible belt so i still see shirts with like phrases like we have to have full phrases on our shirts instead of just a word so it's everywhere huh because it'll eventually trickle down here no the phrases in oklahoma are the worst it's live life love shut the fuck up here's the thing we've talked about we've spoken about this we're inspirational quotes shirts with words wall art um bible verses in social media profiles are all red flags all red flags there has never been a quote that actually inspired me it might have in that moment It might have inspired my thought briefly, but then I just returned to being the horrible, selfish person that we all are.

43:11Jennifer:You know, we're all in our own heads all the time. And it's great to visit quotes of great people that have done great things, but it's only momentarily changes my brain in that moment. I don't know if I've been like, God, I read this quote. And I just, I'm a different person since I read it. It inspired me so much. I've changed my entire life. No, I don't think I've seen that either. Do you all know of anybody who's read an inspirational quote, been so inspired they changed their entire life? No, maybe for like an hour. Yeah, in the moment, right? You situationally are inspired, then you return to being the basic piece of shit you always are.

43:48Yeah.

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46:53Jennifer:I also just want to shout out by our ball caps in our store that say I've had it. Those are for sale. Yeah, I've had three three words oh kylie i think we can do an update all lowercase i've had it period i've had a period yeah i like that i've had it period a jazz hand what about if we did hands i've had it and it was and the i've had it is between the jazz hands what about the back in the back is jazz hands i like it that's good right let's workshop it yeah we'll sort of the parking lot and scramble the jets later on that okay the next voice memo i've got is from jace okay so i'm gonna tell you guys my favorite lesbians a long time had it of mine that has recently gone crazy because it's now a trend i have had it with protein i've had it with jim bro saying i need to get my protein oh what's your protein intake shut the fuck up second i've had it with every single goddamn thing that is being sold at a supermarket having protein in it we're talking protein water protein waffles protein pop tarts protein milk protein this protein that shut the fuck up eat your normal goddamn popcorn not chloe kardashian's stupid ass protein popcorn that doesn't even sound good make the regular popcorn drizzle some butter on it and while you're eating that delicious popcorn shove a protein shake straight up your ass it's going to be better than this fucking protein water and all this other bullshit that big protein is trying to sell to you i have absolutely had it i love it big protein that's a really good point so let me tell you what's happening to me so josh of course like it's twist his rubber arm and he's on for any racket any he falls prey to every needless ridiculous exploitative form of capitalism imaginable so you know josh is a big gym bro now and he works out all the time and he's into his body fat we've i've gone on and on about that but he's also into all these supplement stuff so always ordering food with josh has been a fucking nightmare like i've gone to a tex-mex restaurant with him before and we've sat down and he's like yeah we'll have chips and salsa no onions in the salsa and i'm like motherfucker that's pre-made like you cannot do that you have pick out your own onions just shit like that like real like a divorceable orders with this man i have i have sat through divorceable orders that even a judge would go i don't buy me divorce his ass right yeah so now we've moved on to the the protein stuff oh and he's very into these protein shakes and when he comes to new york we like to work out together and we work out very well together like i like to work out he likes to work out we go work out together it's annoying or the gym couple gagged.

49:50Jennifer:I've had it, but I am that also hypocrite, right? So at the gym, we work out, there's a protein shake bar concession stand, whatever. And he is very into ordering me these post-workout smoothies. And here's the thing, right after I work out, I'm not super hungry. Like, and he wants it the second after. So he orders me these protein shakes and I'm standing in there. And he's like, and for her, she'll have the, you know, go get her protein shake and with extra protein and creatine. He wants me to be on all this creatine. And then he's ordered me these creatine on the go packages. And he wants me to like take creatine.

50:31Jennifer:I'm like, I'm not going to take creatine. I'm not going to take protein. None of this stuff fucking existed until very recently, or it did, but hadn't been marketed. And I'm not falling for it. I'm not falling for any of it. and uh so when he and i have to do it he just it's easier for me just to drink the protein creatine shake than have a belabored conversation with him about not drinking it because i submit i submit to my husband on the uh i submit on the creatine protein shakes i don't know when creatine became a thing but it's been a thing for a minute because i had never heard of it before in my life and I can't get away from it.

51:09But here's what I completely agree, completely agree with the caller. But here's another little protein issue I have. It's when they're like, like if I can't eat and I'm in an airport and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to grab a protein bar. I don't want a protein bar that has three grams of protein. That's not a protein bar. I can get a string cheese for that. So I get tired of looking at all these marketed protein bars with like seven grams of protein when there's like a real protein bar that I've bought before. So you're in on this.

51:41Jennifer:You have a grievance from within the community. It sounds to me like you're in the community and you have a grievance from within the community because I'm so outside of the protein creatine community. I couldn't even begin to tell you how much protein was in a protein bar, much less that some, I wouldn't know if three, seven or 500 grams. Yeah, I do. you kylie what does this sound like to you she's a protein girl okay i'm a protein girl i mean i i try to eat a certain amount are you are you secretly taking creatine pumps no i'm not have you taken creatine no not unless one of my sons has put it in my water and i don't know but no don't go to the gym with josh welch to the protein bar afterwards you'll be on creatine i don't i thought it just made you pee all the time i i'm just unfamiliar with the benefits well my one of my girl that i work out with at the gym um she's this russian trainer i love working out with her she gives me these really hard workouts and i was like yeah josh wants me on creatine she's like i take creatine and she's actually really beautiful so the voice makes her sounds like she's not pretty so i want to go actually this woman is incredibly striking and beautiful and i was like i just don't want to take it like i've never taken supplements my whole life.

53:00Jennifer:And she told me that she'd gained 13 pounds since being on creatine. So that was an immediate no for me. Of course, hers is all muscle, but I'm, I don't want to gain 13 pounds. I don't care if it's fat. I don't care if it's muscle. I don't care if it's IQ points. I'm not interested in gaining anything right now. I mean, I'm interested in reducing things in my life, not gaining. So that's crazy. Yeah. So I guess I'm in the protein problem. you're you're part of the protein community well to be fair you're shopping for grams of protein well because when you're on ozempic or whatever you have to make sure you get enough protein so you don't lose as much muscle mass this is so classic of america so during the during the opioid epidemic there were all of these commercials this is for um um opiate induced um constipation Yeah, I remember this.

53:54Jennifer:For the drug. Oh, Zempic. And now there's a drug for the drug for the drug. It's like we are all so like consumed. Have you seen those pharmaceutical commercials where it's like, do you take such and such and suffer one of the side effects? And then it's a drug to prevent the side effect that then has a whole bunch of other side effects? Yeah, I have seen those. I can't remember the product, but I have seen them. Why are we advertising drugs in America? Yeah. Yeah, because, yeah. All right. Does anybody have anything to add to this very disjointed episode? But hey, listener, we do follow the news cycle and we weren't going to not cover Gwyneth Paltrow's I'm back, period, all lowercase dot.

54:40Jennifer:That is fucking crazy shit. It's crazy. And Trump's America to do that shit. Yeah. Divorced from reality. All right. Make sure you subscribe to our podcast. pre-order my book it's called not today fascist and i have a dedication i wonder who this is going to be oh gwenny gwyneth paltrow not today fascist you are one of the fascists here i think your husband's right when he calls you a republican and maybe he needs to take a little bit further and call you a fascist maybe think outside of what it's like to be gwyneth paltrow and while you're at it you might pre-order my book when you might learn some things the link is right below in the show notes.

55:22Jennifer:We'll be back later.