In short
“Grannies Gone Wild” is a comedic, rant-heavy episode about social behavior and modern annoyances (active listening, moving, cruise calls, airport boarding, notifications/voice memos), plus three news discussions: a 96-year-old TikTok influencer allegedly threatened by a retirement home for “wild parties,” AI “digital afterlife” chatbots/avatars, and a First Amendment/Freedom from Religion Foundation segment. It also includes listener voice memos and a book promo.
Guests (hosts)
Kylie (subbing for Jennifer while “patient zero” spreads “typhoid sickness”); Jennifer (main co-host); Ryan (newer to the show, recently moved in with boyfriend); “Pumps” (Kylie’s nickname used by the hosts).
Key claims/examples
Active listeners distract; cruise lines call aggressively (possibly from AARP lists); moving is “torture” and causes sickness; people should wait for boarding zones; retirement home letter says parties/alcohol aren’t allowed and shows people leaving at 1 a.m.; AI grief tools may keep people dependent and raise consent/data concerns; digital afterlife could be like a Black Mirror scenario.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOKylie's Grievance with Overactive Listeners
0:31 to 0:49
Kylie shares her frustration with overly active listeners during conversations.
Kylie's Grievance with Overactive Listeners
1:48 to 2:13
Kylie shares her frustration with overly active listeners during conversations.
“Kylie is sitting in Jennifer's seat because Kylie is patient zero.”
Active Listening vs. Interruption
2:13 to 3:06
Exploring the fine line between being an active listener and interrupting.
“This is something that's been happening to me.”
Kylie's Attention Span and Strange Surprises
3:06 to 5:32
Kylie discusses her lack of attention during conversations and a surprising discovery about her car.
“sometimes I am sometimes I'm an interrupter I try not to be but it's bad I'm an interrupter it's hard.”
Senior Discounts and Perceptions
5:32 to 7:45
A humorous account of receiving a senior discount unexpectedly at IHOP.
“So I have to get up super, super, super early to walk my dogs in the morning on the weekend.”
Kylie's Cruise Call Experience
7:45 to 9:47
Kylie recalls her experiences with aggressive cruise line calls and their effect on seniors.
“And it's like 630 in the morning and I'm rolling out on a Saturday.”
Ryan's Moving Woes
9:47 to 12:49
Ryan shares his recent moving experience and the challenges that came with it.
“I went with my grandmother because she was like 90 and she couldn't.”
Unpacking Habits
12:49 to 14:01
Discussion on the habits of unpacking after trips and the struggles involved.
“I mean, I would rather be hung up and waterboarded for 15 minutes than move.”
Unpacking Life's Baggage
14:01 to 17:08
Discussion about personal quirks related to unpacking and organization.
“But if you were by yourself and you moved to New York, how long would it take you to unpack your boxes?”
Wild Parties in Retirement Homes
17:09 to 18:39
Introduction of a news story about a party-loving 96-year-old influencer.
“The first one is Influencer96, so around Pump's age, says retirement home threatened to kick her out for partying.”
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Nursing Home Shenanigans
18:40 to 19:22
Anecdotes about wild behavior in retirement homes and partying residents.
STD Awareness and College Stories
19:23 to 20:41
Sharing humorous and shocking stories about STDs and relationships.
“So if you go in, it allegedly is private, but they put it on your bill.”
Grandma Droniak's Party Life
20:42 to 24:49
Exploring the vibrant life of a 96-year-old TikTok influencer and her recent antics.
“like what is that she's like chlamydia and i was like oh god it was right before christmas break OK, so she's dating this guy.”
Grandma Droniak's Party Life
27:11 to 27:40
Exploring the vibrant life of a 96-year-old TikTok influencer and her recent antics.
“All right, listeners, summer is upon us.”
Grandma Droniak's Party Life
27:48 to 29:37
Exploring the vibrant life of a 96-year-old TikTok influencer and her recent antics.
“But with Monarch, it helps you set goals, map out big purchases, and see if you're actually on track before it's too late to adjust or plan that summer vacation.”
Grandma Droniak's Party Life
29:41 to 30:02
Exploring the vibrant life of a 96-year-old TikTok influencer and her recent antics.
“You're listening to this podcast, so I know you've got a curious mind.”
Grandma Droniak's Party Life
30:07 to 30:46
Exploring the vibrant life of a 96-year-old TikTok influencer and her recent antics.
“National average 12-month savings of$946 by new customers surveyed who saved with Progressive between June 2024 and May 2025.”
AI and Digital Afterlife: Ethical Dilemmas
30:49 to 42:00
Exploring the implications of AI in preserving memories and relationships.
“They unite kids with their first drum sets and parents with earplugs.”
Air Travel Frustrations
42:00 to 45:00
Discussing the many annoyances of flying and boarding planes.
“I like to get on and then as soon as possible, take off.”
Social Media Overload
45:00 to 49:50
Vent about being overwhelmed by messages across multiple platforms.
“I am going to join pumps in the not having and I've had it with the cult currently known as MAGA.”
Texting and Communication Preferences
49:50 to 52:34
Exploring preferences for texting over phone calls and discussing message anxiety.
“I'm not going to talk to myself and respond like that.”
Transcript
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1:33So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, and everyone else can. Fuck off.
1:47Angie Sullivan:Okay, welcome to America's Top DEI podcast. Kylie is sitting in Jennifer's seat because Kylie is patient zero. Kylie was out sick last week and now she has spread her typhoid sickness to Jennifer and to Ryan. So thank you, Kylie, that I'm in Oklahoma City and not with you. So Kylie, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with is overactive listeners. This is something that's been happening to me. okay so can we role play yeah okay so tell me a story okay so i was walking my dog and yes yeah took a giant dump right so i picked that dump up and chili took a giant up yeah so then i had only one back right so i had to go and go back and get a new one and keep doing so you're talking like the active the whole time you talk they're every little thing they react to I cannot stand it see I'm an active listener does see I drive you crazy you don't do it out loud like on this podcast you're not just the whole time Jennifer's telling a story interjecting little yeah right sometimes I am sometimes I'm an interrupter I try not to be but it's bad I'm an interrupter it's hard.
3:12Angie Sullivan:So is there a fine line between interrupter and active listener? Yes. I think that's a big difference. Like I think just learn to nod if you just really want to let them know you're listening, but like, I do not need that active of a listener. It's distracting to me. You know what I, what I do sometimes though, and this is really bad. I will nod and I'm constantly giving off like an affirmation. I'm with you. And in my head, I have no fucking idea what they're talking about. I'm like doing something else, thinking about something else. Like they could be bringing me in on a conspiracy of some criminal enterprise.
3:51Angie Sullivan:And I would not know it because I am blessed with such an ability to not even know what's happening around me. You know, I've had my new car for two years and one of our listeners, Joe Estrada, he set me up with it. Right. So about two weeks ago, I realized I had a sunroof. So I've had this car for two years and I never knew I had a sunroof. So I texted him and I was like, Oh my gosh, I just realized I have a sunroof. And he was like, how the fuck did you miss that? And I'm like, I have such a great ability to ignore everything that's going on around me and sit in my own head. You do. Honestly, on this podcast, sometimes I'm thinking about what I'm going to say next.
4:38And so I won't be listening to you guys at all on accident. And then I'll hear my name. Kylie, what do you think about that? I'm like, I agree. We have no clue what anyone's saying.
4:50Angie Sullivan:I'm the worst about that. Okay, here's something that happened. And we were, Jennifer and I were getting interviewed by some like Washington Post, like a real magazine, like a real newspaper. I mean, Washington Post, you could debate, but it was a real interview. And it had gone on for like an hour. And then she, exactly what you said happened. I'm thinking like, oh my gosh, what do I have to do next? Do I have to bait the dogs tonight? Like I'm just going over something else. and she asked me the question and I just had to look at her and say, I am so sorry. My mind wandered. Can you repeat the question?
5:28Angie Sullivan:And I'm sure she was like, you're the biggest fucking dumb ass. But I mean, I just like my attention span and I'm not even a Gen X or what am I? I'm a Gen Xer. Boomer. Right. Not a boomer. Fucking A. What's older than boomer? Oh my God. Speaking of that list. Oh my God. Okay. So I have to get up super, super, super early to walk my dogs in the morning on the weekend. So, I mean, I'm like five o 'clock, I'm walking through my neighborhood. So I walked everybody. Then I dropped them off and I thought, you know, I'm craving an IHOP pancake. So you like, huh? You like IHOP like a lot of IHOP because I like the pancakes, like with the butter, like I want extra butter, no syrup.
6:14Angie Sullivan:So I go into IHOP, I order my pancakes, everything's hunky-dory. I'm like, and I'm in and out in 20 minutes. Like this is the fastest meal of my life, which is an A plus plus. I get my check and it was$6 because she gave me the senior discount and did not tell me the senior. I was just like, Oh, no. Are you fucking kidding me? I didn't ask for the senior discount. As much Botox as I have, I was really kind of halfway pissed off at my injector girl that this woman just automatically gave me the senior discount at IHOP, which is the old people capital of the world. What is this? Is it 65? No, I think it was 60 at IHOP, but I got the senior discount.
7:07Angie Sullivan:And I just want everybody to know, I don't get it at the movie unless I ask for it, which I do not ask because I would rather pay the two extra dollars. I did you pay more than six dollars I would just pay out of like principal extra no I but I did I mean this is mixed messages but since my meal was only six dollars I gave her a six dollar tip so she's probably thinking oh my gosh great she was so happy I gave her the senior discount which really I'm not happy about but I actually did get a six dollar senior menu at IHOP without asking so That tells you how fucking great I looked after I took the dogs.
7:45Angie Sullivan:And it's like 630 in the morning and I'm rolling out on a Saturday. Yeah, but I was just really, I guess in your mind, you always look better than what you actually look. Because for years, I mean, still to this day, I do not have an attorney pass into the courthouse. I stand in line with the criminals because I feel like I'm younger and cuter than what I reflect in pictures. So I refuse to do that. You are so young and cute though. So young and cute. Okay, let me tell you what I've had it with. Speaking of old people things. Okay. Okay, we've talked about prank calls. Everybody knows everybody hates prank call.
8:23Angie Sullivan:Got it. In the last six months, I have gotten three, count them, three phone calls from a cruise line. And they get hostile. You haven't taken advantage of your ship. Our ship's going to leave without you if you don't do. And I'm just like, bitch, I've never been on a cruise. Why do you have my number? And they're very threatening. Like the one I got like two days ago, I felt like it was almost a threat. Like you're not coming on our cruise. Like they're aggressive. And I'm just like, is this why old people end up on so many cruises? Is because they feel threatened? They get bullied. I was going to say, I feel like there's a through line between these two stories you just told.
9:07I feel like you're on maybe an AARP call list.
9:11Angie Sullivan:I am because listeners signed me up for it, Kylie. I know for that point. I think that's where this group is. I did AARP magazine. Thank you very much. I think that's how they got your number. Yeah, but I'm just like, who would go on a cruise after they threatened you on your cell phone? Like, it's all the bad things I hate. And no number on my phone. Voicemail. Threatening voicemail. and cruises. I've seen the poop cruise on Netflix. I've seen how bad a cruise can go. And I'm out. I'm never go on one. Never. I did. I will say this. I did go when I was like 25. I went with my grandmother because she was like 90 and she couldn't.
9:54Angie Sullivan:And we did Alaska and it was a, it was really nice. And I would just go do all the excursions and she sat down the ship. So that was nice to go with her because I think you get a certain age, you really can't travel, travel. You know, there are people, we might have covered this on the show, but there are like retirees now that instead of going to an old people's home, they're on a permanent cruise. They live on the ship. I can't imagine anything worse. Especially after like that poop coming down the walls. It's euthanasia, basically. It is euthanasia. Okay. Ryan. Yeah, we've got Ryan here. Hello.
10:33Angie Sullivan:Ryan, what have you had it with? other than Kylie getting you sick? Well, yes, I've definitely had it with that. I will say I've been sitting over here really shaking because for the first few minutes of this recording, I was going over the news stories. And then I realized that there was some kind of habit about active listening. And I thought that I was going to be called out and you guys were going to ask me my opinion about it and i was gonna have no fucking clue what to say um i have had it with moving i moved this past weekend and i truly would not wish it on my worst enemy maybe maga but that's literally it um so i moved in i'm moving in with my boyfriend for the first time which is exciting um but i have a really negative attitude about moving every time i moved in the past five years especially in new york city has been the worst day of the year every time and you know i decluttered i threw away you know half of my stuff because we're moving into a smaller apartment we're downsizing uh one bedroom and had all my things packed ready to go we pack up all my stuff first and then we get to his apartment and i will just say this in case he's listening i love you but he did not he like barely packed for the move he did not prepare at all um i get there i his bedroom looks basically the same as it usually does and you know his family very graciously we didn't hire movers his fee is a very large family and they are helping us to move and i just want to fucking lose it but i know that mom i i can't i i know that i need to keep my shit together um we got through the move and then as soon as we finished you know unloading everything, not everything's put away.
12:41Both of us look at each other and we're like, I feel a tickle in my throat. And now we're both sick because of Kylie.
12:48Angie Sullivan:Fucking Kylie. Okay. Number one, I completely agree. Moving is akin to torture. I mean, I would rather be hung up and waterboarded for 15 minutes than move. It is horrible. It, it really tests the relationship. Thankfully, all of our stuff is unpacked now. And, you know, it's very exciting. But, yeah, like I said, I really wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. No, it's the worst. Okay, Ryan, here's something that you and I have alike. I'm going to ask you a question. Then we're going to go to Kylie. I know exactly what you're about to ask. Since it's kind of the newlywed game, since Ryan is the latest to the party.
13:35Angie Sullivan:Okay, so Ryan. Yes. When you go on a trip and you come back, how soon after you get to your apartment do you unpack your suitcase? Oh, I wait. It'll wait. The luggage will wait in the suitcase. Like everything will wait in the suitcase for days. I'm so disappointed. For days, actually. Days? Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's not good. I don't know. It's unbelievable. It is unbelievable. And I know that that's a flaw of mine. um i'm working on it but i'm not working on it yeah to be honest i'm not working on it either the first year of the podcast we traveled a ton and kylie would not unpack her suitcase in between travels yeah so like three weeks i was like half still packed by the next tour okay and then okay but kylie when you moved to new york and i'm not saying what anna did because I know Ana would get everything done.
14:38Angie Sullivan:But if you were by yourself and you moved to New York, how long would it take you to unpack your boxes? I was sitting here thinking, we might still have like a box or two unpacked while you were talking. And we'd been here literally seven, six or seven months. Here's the thing. One thing I'm good at is knowing my weaknesses. So Ryan, I hired movers. I did white glove. I didn't have to do a thing because I wouldn't have done it correctly or at all. So I just, I know when to pay people to do the things I'm bad at. I will correct my statement. I said days. It's probably more like weeks. No, I like really organized.
15:17Like I'm very organized out of the suitcase and I just live out of it for about a week. Here's the thing. Like if I open the suitcase, I have to admit that I then have to like put everything away. And if I keep it closed, then it's almost as if it never happened. and it's not there and I don't have to deal with it.
15:34Angie Sullivan:So Ryan, you've got dirty underwear sitting in a closed suitcase for two weeks. Is that what you're telling me? On air? Yeah, when you put it that way. On air, so everybody knows you have nasty underwear. When I travel, this is, and especially when I have little kids, when I travel, when I land from the airport, I get every single bit of my laundry done and put away before I go to bed. And if I get in at 3 a.m., I get the kids down. I could not go to sleep. Now, granted, that was control issue city when I was married to a sociopath. But it just, I cannot, even now, like this weekend, I'm going to go out of town and everything when I get back will be in the laundry, folded the whole nine before I go to bed that night.
16:20Angie Sullivan:It grates on my nerves to have shit out of place. That's kind of the reason why having my kids at home from college, not everything's in its place all the time. I think I have serious OCD tendencies, not terrible, but I just like, just like a little order in my life. That makes sense from how your marriage went. I think maybe you crave a little bit of order. Let me tell you this, Kylie, when I was married and had three kids, I would sweep and mop my floor two or three times a day. That's how big my control issues were. Yeah. You couldn't control the things you needed to control. I couldn't control what's going on in my life.
17:02Angie Sullivan:You had to control the floor. Okay. We've got some news stories today. Okay. Delish. And they're good ones, if I may say so. The first one is Influencer96, so around Pump's age, says retirement home threatened to kick her out for partying. Quote, I pay$12 ,000 a month. You can't stop me. okay it's this says a tiktok influencer grandma droniak has more than 15 million followers on tiktok her recent posts include get ready with me videos for funerals and ranking the people she has outlived that is so badass that this 96 year old woman has 15 million followers on tiktok do we have a video of her we do but we gotta get through one more excerpt first so this is more from the article.
17:58It says, in the letter and, quote, formal warning, an employee from the retirement home wrote to Droniak, we are reaching out because there have been many noise complaints about your room. Parties are not allowed and you cannot serve alcohol to other residents. This is a safety concern. While we encourage residents to socialize and enjoy community activities, we cannot have wild parties. It is shown on security footage that people were leaving your room at 1 a.m. last Tuesday. And it goes on to say, continued incidents of this nature may result in restrictions on visitors and common area privileges and could lead to further review of your residency status within the community.
18:36We kindly ask for your cooperation in ensuring future gatherings remain respectful of community rules and quiet hours. No parties, please. I actually um so back in the day before this podcast I used to DJ and in college my favorite DJ gig I ever did was at a retirement home in Stowater Oklahoma and they had their spring formals and like their winter solstice dance and so I got to see some shit these people were sneaking in like little bottles of vodka that they would learn how to hide or their granddaughter would bring them in they're getting hammered they would come up and all these old men would come flirt with me i mean it was like the time of my life these people get wild okay i have so many
19:22Angie Sullivan:questions about this okay so this woman is she are the only people at her parties like residents or are they people coming out from the community coming in i would imagine it's residents i think the residents yeah okay in 96 like staying up to 1 a.m that is like fucking goals right there i mean i can't stay up past nine i mean if i'm up past 9 p.m it something has gone horribly wrong with my life like i cannot believe she's saying here's the deal i just remember hearing this and i was shocked and i've heard it a million times since then there are more stds yeah in a nursing home than in a college campus, which given that I went to college and I know a lot about STDs from that experience.
20:11Angie Sullivan:I mean, soup to nuts STDs. Tell us more. Yeah. How much? I cannot. Okay. This is a funny story. This is a super funny story. Okay. So there's a health clinic. It's called Goddard at OE. So if you go in, it allegedly is private, but they put it on your bill. So that sucks because then a parent's like why are you getting tetra cycling you know i mean do that i know but okay so this is when i was in college so hippa wasn't that great yet okay so have a girlfriend she she comes in she's like i've got the clam i've got the clam and i was like what is that she's like chlamydia and i was like oh god it was right before christmas break OK, so she's dating this guy.
20:57Angie Sullivan:They're not boyfriend, girlfriend, but they're dating. So she goes back home. She was from California. She goes back home to California. Oh, and they give you some important part of the story. So they give you antibiotics for yourself and partner. So the prescription bottle, I'll use my name, Angie Sullivan, Angie Sullivan partner on the prescription. OK, so this is important. So she goes back home for Christmas break. Now her dad's a doctor. So this is a real fate twist. So he's in her room welcoming her back. She has her antibiotics sitting there. It gets knocked off on the floor. He picks it up and it's the partner medicine.
21:42Angie Sullivan:So immediately announcing that she has an STD. So her dad goes, I guess whatever the prescription was, it was like, obviously for chlamydia and he's like oh so you have chlamydia oh my god can you imagine anything worse that might be my worst nightmare i'm interested in the fact that they give you one for you and for your partner because i i guess just using logic of course but i would imagine that you just having you know monogamous sex with your partner you wouldn't acquire an scd so there would have to be some kind of third party involved like do you understand the line of logic i'm following so then there would have to be really is no such thing as monogamy in my experience it's kind of just to a sex fest or apparently in these nursing homes.
22:45Angie Sullivan:96-year-old. So are you not allowed to have booze in a nursing home, I guess? No, you have to sneak it in, I think. I think I would guess they maybe have like a red wine or something, but they're sneaking in bottles. I actually have a video from Grandma Droniac. She's responding to the letter on TikTok. And you cannot serve alcohol to other residents. I just want to pause in for the listener. I just want to point out that grandma is wearing a T-shirt with an arrow pointing up at her face. And on her boobs, it says eyes up here. That serves as a formal warning. I can do what I want. I pay$12 ,000 a month to live here.
23:33Angie Sullivan:I can party if I want to. My girlfriends are coming over tonight. we're gonna drink and gossip it's not a party but we do get rowdy i can't help it i love to party you can't stop me they are here
23:57i'm obsessed with her i'm obsessed with her i've never seen her she's about to get 15.1
24:02Angie Sullivan:million followers 15 million followers her get ready with me was kind of cute with her pic and oh she's doing the gouache she's like all up in on it what's the gouache is that the like the lymphatic drainage thing that tiktok influencers have made up in my opinion there's there's one more thing about this that i want to read um a rep for grandma droniak so she has representation she's got a manager and an agent manager yeah said in a statement to people magazine that this quote actually happened and that the matter has since quote been resolved with her nursing home the home is allowing her to still have people in her room until late she just can't supply alcoholic drinks for the rep i mean she's 96 years old let her do what she wants yeah like she's made it this long and she's doing to get ready with me yeah she's got game at 96 she has more game at 96 than i have at 56 yeah i mean her mind's still with it she i think that sucks i think these people do pay a lot to be in retirement homes yeah they do living out the rest of their lives these places can be really fucking boring i don't think that there should be that many rules in my opinion these are grown-ass people past i mean they are fucking grown-ass people i just wonder if it's just sexcapades if they're pulling trains and doing all that they are pulling trains she made she also made a few videos about hooking up with your ex after you break up with them and it shows her like in a car in a car seat uh you know looking all sort of disheveled post hookup she she's a bad 96 year old grandma was in a car banging it off i can love that for her can you imagine if you go up to a car as a policeman and it's two 90 year olds banging it out just leave them alone absolutely let them have it yeah just keep walking i got busted having sex in a car one time and it was horrifying huh no they were just like move on and i was like great but i mean you've never seen my ass move so fast from hop on, I mean, hop off to ask in the passenger seat faster.
26:23Angie Sullivan:I mean, it was like the speed of light because it was so humiliating. Pumps, I always, I love learning new stuff about you just every episode. Yeah. I mean, so many things. I did have jello shots off my boobs in New Orleans once. You knew that. You know what? I, in New Orleans, I, they'll put a tube between their breasts with a jello shot in it and they'll come up to you and they were like we were there and they force you to take it and you're like haha okay fun and then they put their hand out and they're like okay 12 dollars oh yeah no i got we were getting grifted by boob jello shots this was back when the sag and dragons were i mean they were rocks they were ready to party they were i I mean, it was like, I will pay you to see those beauties.
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31:33But some believe a tool to help with grief could backfire. And it goes on to say, memory preservation has long been a part of tech's business model. Now, as the digital legacy market is expected to reach$78.98 billion by 2034, there is a small but growing cohort of digital afterlife firms that provide users with interactive, AI-powered tools meant to preserve the memories and characteristics of a loved one post-mortem. As the tech becomes more accessible, questions have emerged about its potential harms, consent, and who stands to benefit. Some startups like Hereafter AI, StoryFile, and Eternos offer services like video avatars and conversational AI trained on a deceased person's data.
32:21Microsoft has patented a system to recreate people as interactive avatars, including those who have died. Meta has granted a patent that would use AI to simulate a deceased person's social media activity, although the company said it has no plans to move forward with it.
32:37Angie Sullivan:Right. pumps what do you think okay here's i'm so torn on this i i i i don't know what i think my biggest concern i think would be that if you still have a loved one and you continue to maintain a relationship with that loved one after they die that precludes you from making relationships outside of the AI. So in that way, it's bad. But then I think if I lost a child and I could hear that child's voice every day and I could talk to that child, so I don't know, I'm so torn. Y 'all are younger than me. What do you think? Kylie? I think I, and I know this is like a saying that people say all the time, but this actually is Black Mirror episode.
33:30Like I've seen this. I don't know how I feel about it. I think, Pompsey, make a good point that you don't move on. You don't move on. Even if you lose a child, of course you're probably going to do it. I don't think you could resist seeing them again, talking to them through this, but you still are not moving on. I also think, on a less morbid note, people are going to use this with people that are not dead. I could see a crazy ex whose boyfriend left her, and she's like, I'm going to keep him alive. of it sleeps in bed with her she's still dating this person that's a real person kylie you were in my mind i was this completely reminded me of the black mirror episode um pumps
34:12Angie Sullivan:have you seen black mirror i have not i've seen i mean i know what it is and i tried to watch one episode one time and i think it was the very first one way back in the day and it was like they were like stabbed a bunch of pigs and there was all kinds of weird shit and i was like yeah it was really disturbing episode anyway basically it starts in the episode it starts as just a chat bot and then it evolves into a full-blown uh doll i guess a robot uh basically becoming the person so that person is acting completely as your deceased loved one and basically the episode goes on it basically tortures this woman's life and she can't get herself to kill it so it ends up just living in her attic the entire time and they have a young daughter who's growing up and on the young daughter's birthday she can like go up and say hi to her dad it's really creepy anyway that has made me really uh kind of scared of this kind of technology i know that as time goes on it probably will become more common uh and maybe for some people it's a way to deal with grief but i don't think that this is something that i would ever use because it's just so dark i am torn though because i'm like when it comes to grief i'm kind of like fuck it like whatever helps do it i don't know i mean people i mean i know people that have gone to like psychics and you know mad it's not madams mediums they go and they reach out and they talk to their deceased loved one and it brings them so much peace right yeah so i support that i just think there's such a fine line between brings you peace and keeps you dependent but i agree i mean grief is really, really tough.
36:15Angie Sullivan:And I don't know, like, and who's to say like Mark Zuckerberg, I don't want him telling me, you know, when the cutoff point is, or you can only access it five times a year or whatever people decide. Like, well, and I definitely don't want like a dead ones, social media activity being replicated. Like why would, why would you want your like dead grandma posting happy birthday on your facebook wall you know is that that creeps me out if you're doing it you know with yourself i you know i guess do what you want probably not for me but i i think we can draw a line there yeah for sure not doing social media a lot of these technologies i'm like okay yeah maybe that's good when you think about who's in control of it and the data that has to be entered about, you know, my mother, all of her memories or data is going to these oligarchs.
37:11I don't know. Then I just don't trust any technology anymore.
37:15Angie Sullivan:No, I completely agree. And I've just gotten to where everything that comes up about AI, I just hate. Yeah. I just immediately am a no with all of it. And you know how, remember when Jennifer was talking about like her AI, like knowing it was AI and going down the rabbit hole. I went down a rabbit hole, not knowing it was AI, which I know surprises you. It was about those babies that you take away their, their, they've been blind and you take away their eye patch and they see their parents for the first time. And they're so happy. And they've got smiles. I'm 20 minutes down that rabbit hole when I realized it's the same fucking parents.
37:49Angie Sullivan:And I was just like, are you fucking kidding me? I had followed the account. I mean, I was all in. I was like, this is the sweetest thing I've ever seen. So I just, I hate everything about AI. I just, I don't, I think it brings more problems than it solves. Especially when you think about how kids under age are being led to, you know, commit suicide and it tells them how to make it easier. And I also am a big believer in friction makes you grow. Yeah. Different perspectives, disagreements. You have to work through them. You have to learn how to do that. And if you're just constantly being affirmed, like we think these people are titty babies in the younger generation because they have to have mommy come to work with them.
38:38Angie Sullivan:And their husband talks to their boss. That shit's crazy. Imagine if you're AI chatbot. Like, I just, I don't understand. I just think it's going to bring way, way more problems than it solves. Well, and I think kids just aren't learning as much either. Like I kind of got out of college basically right as ChatGPT and all these other AI platforms were coming to the picture. If I had AI when I was in high school or college, I know for sure I would not learn as much as I did because it just makes it so easy and accessible to, you know, get what you need instead of doing the actual work yourself yeah you got to do it yourself or you just don't learn as much i don't think okay do you guys want to listen to a couple voice memos sure okay first we've got jake jennifer's grievance about um men cutting her off in line when it's time to board a plane and I would like to use this as my opportunity to apply for a formal exception because I agree people should make space for Jennifer and pumps when boarding a plane and obviously I would let you all go first however I fly frequently and as a gay man I think that I should be allowed to cut people men or women because typically the gate lice don't know what they're doing and I've already I previewed their boarding pass on their phone because they don't realize that everyone can see everything that they're doing.
40:18And typically, if I cut off a woman or a man, it's because I already know that my boarding zone is better than theirs and they don't know what the fuck's going on. But on the surface, I realize that it looks like I'm just being a millennial male piece of trash and cutting off people. But I actually know what the fuck I'm doing. So I would just like this to serve as an application for exception for most people, but specifically me, a gay man who knows what the fuck they're doing.
40:49Angie Sullivan:Well, you know, this podcast is always going to give an exception for a gay man. The gay exception. Yeah. OK, speaking of a gay exception, I was just thinking about this the other day because I saw two straight people sitting on the same side of the booth and I was repulsed. But I know there's a gay exception because it's super cute. Ryan do you and your boyfriend sit on the same side of the booth no Kylie and Anna are weird sometimes we do why we can like cuddle up yeah kind of no I agree with I agree with the caller because of two things number one when other outside of MAGA and the people that are die hard triple trumpers in the maha movement when did we start letting the dumbest most clueless people lead us why in all these airport rituals are the dumbest people always in the lead it should be if you have your boarding pass and you're ready to go then you get to go first the dipshit that's talking to her kid and you know him hawing about the neck rest that doesn't have their boarding pass up you have to wait there has to be consequences for not having your shit together that's my take yeah there's something about airports that i think just makes people lose their minds um something that i can't stand is people everyone crowding around the line as all the all the different boring numbers are called just fucking wait for your number to be called i'm seated i'm relaxed i'm waiting for the number Also, I like to be one of the last people to board the plane.
42:33I like to get on and then as soon as possible, take off. I still don't like flying. I'm claustrophobic. But I don't understand this obsession with getting ahead of one person. You're going to then wait in line to get on the plane. It just –
42:49Angie Sullivan:And there's a seat with your name on it sitting there. The seat's not going – I mean, I get Southwest is different. but nine times out of ten like you know where you're going here's what i don't get i know we've talked about it ad nauseum why don't they load this the plane from the back up yeah that makes no sense to me right why would you start in the beginning start at the back no it would make so much more sense i think there's somewhere in europe this one they do front and back so like first class you have to go early and then the back goes and you meet in the middle and it's perfect my only issue with what you said ryan is i always have a carry-on any chance i can i'm not checking and i get real anxious if it's a tight squeeze if i can't find my thing if it's not going to be where i'm at and i have to squeeze past other people so i'm worried about checking a bag i'm worried about overhead space okay fair enough you're always checking i don't mind if i leave the airplane they just put it on the the jebra i hate gate checking because half the time they send it to the actual bag thing kylie has that ever actually happened to you yes it has happened to me it has happened to me they send it where they'll like check it check it and then you have to go down a baggage claim i like when it's at the gate that's not pop it on the gate i'm all in on that why don't we do that for everyone and then why don't we just do that seating overhead bins what i hate is when you're loading your shit up and like clearly the bags go horse well i guess this would be vertically so the compartment's horizontal clearly everybody's sticking their bags in vertically right to make more room and some motherfucker probably maga always has to put their bag horizontally so then you have to move your bag and their bag to create more space i'm just like dipshit look at the other bags it's not that hard it is for them it is for them it is okay one more kyle's okay the next one we've got is from sarah okay hb ic skylar and beth this is your friend Sarah from Phoenix.
45:10I am going to join pumps in the not having and I've had it with the cult currently known as MAGA. I've had to reach deep down into the dark depths of my soul for this one. I have had it with being connected to friends on multiple social media channels,
45:38Angie Sullivan:as well as text. And those friends have to message you something from every single channel. They're sending texts. They're sending reels on Instagram. They're sending memes on Facebook. they're sending tiktoks whatever pick a fucking channel please i do not want to open multiple apps and see messages from you this i agree with this so fucking hard i already hate responding to anybody like let me show you guys just my notifications i bet i have you beat kylie do think you want to do a competition i actually do want to do a competition because i'm almost sure i have you beat okay you go first because mine are not loading okay am i just showing you my home screen yeah my home screen has no notifications right now what do you got 1151 texts that you have not read 5600 emails mine's not working oh i don't have any notifications yeah i bet you i have you beat those still like that didn't mean kylie sees the amount of how do you not read your text how do you have 1100 texts that have gone because like one out of 10 texts is worth me reading why because you know how do you know if you don't read them you can see it i can see who it's from i know it's not worth it i can see what i get a lot of spam i got a text yesterday quick heads up your america 250 mug has not been claimed yet i don't need to open that like i'm getting tons of spam.
47:16I'm in a lot of group messages. I'm not a group message participant. I just, I've asked people to remove me from them and they won't. I think maybe in hopes that one day I'll contribute. I'm just not going to. Like, I don't know what it is about it. I think I have some kind of like group chat anxiety, but it is a flaw. I'll admit that. I do one of these days.
47:40Angie Sullivan:I don't think a lot of people are just like, I don't want to hear if you have 10 people on a message and everybody says the same like, OK, yeah, that's a great idea. Then you're just it's mindless conversation. But here's the thing. When you get a text from the same person that sent you a reel, that sent you a meme, it's like they're they want too much attention. They're too needy to be in my friend group. I like people in my friend group that don't need any kind of thing. OK, but going back to this, my youngest son does this. he has like 600 and open messages he never checks his text messages it drives me fucking crazy because i'll i'll say well i sent you text he's like well i didn't see it i'm like then that's your fault you don't get to say i didn't see it and be excused if you're not looking at the text so you're saying it's conscious it's a conscious thing like mom texted me clearly i'm gonna ignore that i mean for me it's not even on purpose i like you know i just i just don't think humans are supposed to talk this much to each other i don't think they're supposed to have this much access text messaging is fake we made it up so like i just it is i just don't feel obliged i hate it i hate it also if it is really important i will respond yeah like also if someone texts me at work just start the wrong time the only time i'm responding text my friends will know is like i happen to look at my phone i happen to be doing nothing else and i happen to feel like talking and there's like five seconds that they'll have me to talk yeah that's the thing to feel like talking that's but see i prefer text messaging so much more to phone calls i would much rather just get on a a text message than do a phone call i think it depends on the person because There are friends who I really enjoy, like a really long phone call to catch up with them and we never text.
49:37And then there's friends who are more like every once in a while I'll check in over text message and that's how we stay connected. As a rule, I think I do not want people calling me every day. I just don't have time for that or the energy for that. I also hate voice memos. I cannot. I agree. It sends me a voice. I don't listen. I'm not going to talk to myself and respond like that.
50:02Angie Sullivan:I have a standing rule. Like I will not respond to a voice memo. I have a girlfriend that's always like, Hey, I'm driving. I'm like, I'm not listening to that. If you send it in a voice memo, I am not listening full stop. One thing about pumps though, is she's doing voice to text and it shows. See, that's okay though. How did you voice to text? You've literally apologized and said, sorry, I was doing my voice. You mean like accidentally you like it, It says what I'm talking about. And it's that text you sent me about sex in the middle of a work day. Oh, my God. Yes. So all of a sudden it's like what happened.
50:41Angie Sullivan:I love listening to like experts talk about stuff. So that expert on experts like it's linguists or I like to listen to that kind of stuff. Because I'm always trying to get better. Always, always striving for more. So there's this. I finished this one. One of my dear friends, her brother was on it. So I'm listening to his. Then the next one it pops over is about intimacy. I thought it was like being intimate, learning how to be vulnerable in your relationships. I was not thinking sex at all. So it's about sex. This is like from the time I turn on to where the old office is turning on or whatever.
51:18Angie Sullivan:Well, it's all about sex and touching and all this. So I turn it off and I'm like, okay, I'm out on that. So I walk in. This is the best part of the whole thing. i walk into kylie's office i sit down and she goes really like she's whispering hey would you need to text me like real quiet and i'm like i don't know what i text you what i text you and then all of a sudden it hits me she's like and she just shows it to me she goes
51:49in the middle of the work day i get this like sexed from pumps and i was like okay one either pumps is finally a lesbian or two she sent me sexually harassing for someone else so i was like hey she had no idea she sent it she doesn't no and then i knew because then i looked at it and
52:07Angie Sullivan:i was like oh yeah this expert was talking but kylie was like she was really hanging on that i was trying to be someone else yeah so funny i was trying to be sweet too and let you have the whispering was the best part for sexual harassment text me hey like she didn't want to embarrass me if I'm sexting someone by mistake. Believe me if I'm sexting someone, it is by mistake. All right, Ryan, do you want to show off Jen's book? He's got a copy right now. Oh, yes. You can do the ad. Okay. Jennifer has a new book. Pre-order today, not today, fascists. How, what does it say? The lives, the lives that got us here and the truths that will reunite us.
52:51Angie Sullivan:This is going to be such an important book. I think I really am excited about it. Please pre-order. That really helps. Also, we have this flagship podcast on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We also have daily digestible news hits every day between two and three, depending on how fucked up the world is. It might even be four. So we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. Actually, Pumps, I've got one more call out. if you guys will send a voice memo oh god i forgot chiley sorry send a voice memo to our instagram keep it around like under a minute 30 some of these people have a lot to say and they do about five minutes i'm not even going to play those much like the voice text messages so around a minute 30 send it to our instagram dms also leave us a review on apple we're trying to get to some new record we used to make up really good milestones pumps so go leave us a review So, yeah, we hit all our goals.
53:48But we really need your reviews because I need something to read or they're just not going to let me on the show anymore.
53:54Angie Sullivan:And if you tell Kylie how cute she is in the voice memo and how smart and funny and darling she is, you're definitely going to get on there. All right. We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. day.
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