In God We Grift

0:02Angie Sullivan:So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots, all the triots I might have missed out. We love you. All of the triple trumpers can do what, Pumps? Fuck all. All right, Pumps, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with is movies that are three hours long. I just feel like that's just way too big of a time commitment. I don't understand. Like when I was growing up way back in the day, movies were an hour and a half hour and 45 minutes. And it's just, when you have a three hour movie with 30 minutes of previews, you're pushing four hours.

0:46And that means you haven't gone to, you know, gone to lunch after if you're, or dinner, if you're trying to make a, you know, an evening or a day of it. And I just, I just think it's too big of a time commitment to ask people to do that. Now, I understand tickets are expensive, but to me, it doesn't make the movie better. It makes watching the movie like my body gets sore. I have to move around. I'm thinking, oh my gosh, my dogs, what are they thinking? It's gone so long. So I just think movies are too long and I've had it.

1:19Angie Sullivan:Question. Why do you just not go to the movie? like look at the time oh it's three hours I'm not a good candidate for this and then just not go because all the movies I want to see are super long and it's even like Luke and I have this deal where he wants to see like all these old movies and it's like okay that's an hour and a half movie perfect that's easy to do after dinner and then you go you find one that's recent and it's three hours it just changes the whole complexion of your evening if you're trying to package in three hours. But if I only went to, I mean, there really aren't any, because I always look at the time and it's just like, I have to do a whole day.

1:58Like I have to get a dog sitter to go to the movie because they're so long.

2:04Angie Sullivan:You know, I see where you're coming from. I totally do. But I kind of like that. I like longer. I do because it's just like three hours that you're not looking at your phone, you're engaging. And I like art so much. I like the acting. I like character development. I like cinematography, the editing, that it's just in such a, everything. So we're so programmed for instant gratification and like our meals in the United States, we sit down at my family's the worst. Like we want to be in and out within like 45 minutes. I think it's cut for me, it's nice, like, because it bends me away from this quick paced American lifestyle and just like sitting down and enjoying the artistry of something I like.

2:50Angie Sullivan:But I totally see your points about how getting but I also just go back to just if you're not a candidate for three hour movie, just don't go to the three hour movie. But it's always the ones I want to see. So I guess that's a me problem, huh? Yeah. All right. I have had it with the overuse of hurting people's texts. So here's what I'm talking about. You send somebody a text like, okay, I'll be right there. And used to, like when they first started that you could actually do an emoji on somebody's text, it was the thumbs up and I always did the thumbs up I noticed that then everybody kind of segued over to the heart so I kind of moved over to the heart and so I'm in like some text messages with some people that I don't love like the heart is way overkill and so I'm in this text message with this person that we do business with and it's like okay I'll see I'll be there at noon and I go to like do the heart emoji.

4:00Angie Sullivan:And I'm like, that is just entirely too strong. Yeah. Like we need to bring back the thumbs up. And I don't know what happened because it used to be the thumbs up. And I think the millennials and the Gen Zers were like thumbs up is dorky. So they started loving on everything. And I just think the hearting of certain text responses is way too too strong of an affirmation. I think I have used it too much. I'm like, this is not, this does not warrant a heart. This is not something that is love worthy. It's an acknowledgement of, I gotcha. And the heart shouldn't replace the thumb up because then you're diminishing the power of love and of the heart emoji.

4:50Angie Sullivan:And I just can't tell you how many people that I text about something benign, something pedestrian, something completely innocuous. And I get hearts back. And I'm like, do we really love this? Is this love? And so I want all of us to actively stop overusing the heart and bring back the thumb. If it is, if you're doing business and this is about, or do you acknowledge that I got this message? Thumbs up is appropriate. And I do not think the thumbs up is dorky. I think using a heart about something that isn't love worthy or wrapped up in a lot of emotions, I think that's dorky. I have totally noticed the same thing.

5:36And I feel like once everybody else on a group text starts hearting it, that if you like it, then you're the asshole like there's some peer pressure involved yeah but it's interesting like I've gotten to where I like uh differentiate this so much that just yesterday my daughter sent me a picture of something that I was like that's stupid she's like don't you love this and so as an act of protest I just hit the like emoji and I thought okay she's gonna get the message but then I think are are people getting the message I don't think the people are getting the message.

6:12Angie Sullivan:Is the like emoji the thumb up? Yeah, the thumbs up. Yeah, versus like, do you love this? I like it. And I even, I don't think there's anything worth responding. Okay. Or if like you send something, I don't always like you can assume that I got it when it says delivered. And if it's a benign question that doesn't require, okay, I got this. Why can't you just trust that they got it, they've read it and move on down the road. Lots of interaction on text, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that the diminishing of the heart, I think people, you don't know that very well and you're hurting each other's texts.

6:53Angie Sullivan:It's just too much. And then there's a, and then there's a nuance to this that I'm going to go into as well. And Instagram in the DMs, which I'm terrible at DMs. If you have a DM that I haven't opened that you've sent me and I haven't opened it in months, you're not alone. I cannot stomach DMs because it's just one more thing that you have to clear out besides your email box and your text messages. But here's something that is really annoying. So somebody sends you a meme and then you put the laughing emoji on the meme. And then that person goes and hearts your laugh. So you've got the meme and somebody says, oh, that's funny.

7:37Angie Sullivan:And then somebody loves that it was funny. And it's just, there's just a lot of affirmations going on online that are not commensurate with the emotions. It's, I've had it. I've completely had it. There's too many double tapping. There's too much going on. too many double taps too many double taps too many fake hearts i know half the shit that i write like okay i'll see you there in 10 minutes that is not worthy of a heart that is worthy of it gotcha gotcha yeah no kylie welcome to i've had it kylie what do you think about this the hearts i think um the thumbs up has become a lot of people think that it's rude they think you're being that's what I'm talking about that's stupid that's what I'm talking about who are these soft people that think a thumbs up is rude what kind of titty baby thinks that acknowledging somebody's text with a thumbs up is rude that is unbelievable it makes sense though when you think about all the stuff we talk about with Gen Z and the workplace and just the their bubble wrapped so now a thumbs up hurts their feelings.

8:57Angie Sullivan:So now we all have to be, I'm exclusively, you know what? I'm exclusively going to use the thumbs up even when I love something. So you're protesting. Yeah. I am. I'm only going to use the thumbs up or thumbs down. Yeah. Which I do the thumbs down quite a bit, actually. When somebody says, I'm going to be 10 minutes late, I go. Because that's how I feel. right like you're going to be 10 minutes I'm already here so that's a thumbs down like why can't we just tell people how we feel why are we walking in minefields what's wrong with saying I'm disappointed that you're going to be 10 minutes I don't get over it by the time you're here but for those 10 minutes I'm a thumbs down I'm a thumbs down emoji yeah yeah what's wrong with that nothing but they're like well I need you to be like it's okay I'm but it's not Right.

9:48Angie Sullivan:When somebody, if somebody were to do a thumbs down for me, if I said it'd be 10 minutes late, I'd be like, I get it. Yeah, I understand. I do deserve a thumbs down. Yeah. Yeah. This is the same group of people, I'm guessing demographically, that their mommies go with them to work, that they have, you know, their husbands or wives respond to their bosses. I mean, if you are going to get if you are so triggered by a like that you think it's rude, I can't even imagine how your personal daily interactions go, especially at a workplace. That just seems to me that it's impossible for you to live. Let me make sure I understand this, Kylie.

10:23Angie Sullivan:Yeah. So if somebody sent me a text that said, the meeting place will be, you want to meet tomorrow noon, blah, blah, blah. The meeting place will be the McDonald's on Fifth Avenue. And if I responded thumbs up, a person could perceive that as rude? Yeah, like you could take it as you're not that excited to go. That's what this is for. That's what the thumbs down is for. I mean, it's.

10:59Angie Sullivan:I'm really struggling that somebody would put that much into an emoji. Yeah. And that's why now you have to use a heart everywhere. I'm not. I'm never using the heart again. You should use the broken heart one.

11:17Angie Sullivan:Yeah, it's. I succumbed to this and I became a harder. And then I looked at it. That was emailing a guest to the podcast or texting a guest to the podcast. And I'm like about to heart something. And I was just like, this is crazy. I don't know this person. Why am I sending them a heart emoji? That's coming on way too strong. It's funny you say that because just last week we had like a group chat for work that we're all in with some other people and they sent some update. And I sat there and I thought about, do I do the heart? I don't know these people. This is professional. Do you use the heart in a professional setting?

11:55And I debated it. I went with this. I went with the thumbs up.

11:58Angie Sullivan:I did go with thumbs up. Do you think they thought you were rude? Probably. I mean, in my emails, I have to work hard not to use an exclamation point every sentence to make sure I sound nice. Because people think things sound rude. If you don't over heart exclaim. I mean, it's just it really is a minefield. I'm not going to cater to these people. No. I'm not, you can't cater to somebody's soft sensitivities like this. Like it's business. It's thumbs up emoji. It's here are the facts. Here's what we're doing. Here's how we're meeting. And I appreciate a non-fluff email. Yeah. I hate a fluffed up email.

12:43And they say the same thing, every email. And everyone uses the same corporate terms. And you have to get through that to find the one thing you need. yeah all right i've got a couple spotify comments about some recent episodes this one is from mark and he says i love how jen accidentally became america's most important journalist she's like the avatar master of home decor petty grievances elder care in parentheses pumps and reading Republicans for filth heart emoji.

13:17Angie Sullivan:Stinkly. See, that's heart because that's a loving message. Yeah, I agree. And it's about me. If it's about you. So, I mean, obviously a thumbs up would be so rude. A thumbs up would have been so rude there. No, I mean, I send people, when I want people to know, I am a huge sender of hearts. I send the pink heart and the hand hearts all the time. So, but I'm talking about the liking of the messages. Yeah. Don't you think we're conditioned? Okay, this is, I'm glad you brought this up. We're conditioned on Instagram. Like you like everything and the like is the heart. That's what you push. And so here's my dilemma.

13:59I often get stuck on this. So I don't like something. Like the message is a hateful, hateful Republican message. And then somebody makes a comment. and then I'm like, what is my like going for? Am I liking the comment, which is what I agree with? Or am I liking the hateful post? So then I get paralyzed. I don't do anything. I've been there. I totally know what you mean.

14:22Angie Sullivan:It's like Donald Trump. It's like a left-leaning account. And they're like, Donald Trump and Melania killed baby goats and drank their blood. And they're like trolling them or whatever. And I think, oh, I want to like that, which is love, because it's a heart. but then you think are people going to think that like I support the killing of these goats and drinking of the blood I've been there a million times it's so weird Kylie what is this a boomer thing a Gen X are we no I don't think so and I think you have to worry because it shows you who likes it so it's going to say Ms. Welch loved that Donald Trump and Melania killed a goat right and drank their blood we just need to get rid of all the the emoji the reactions yes i do like texting with emojis though i'm a big i include like the cry emoji or hearts i like the eye roll emoji yeah there's certain emojis that i quite enjoy using but it's the reaction emojis because it's just another thing i have to do another response there's like now layers of responses yeah you just can't go through your stories or whatever You have to like everything to keep it moving.

15:36One last comment from Spotify. This is from Johnny Potseed. And he says, hey, pumps, 48, Italian-American, Indiana farmer here. We should break bread together sometime.

15:47Angie Sullivan:Totally agree, Johnny Potseed. Totally agree. What do you have to lose? I mean, that's in my realm. Like, I don't want to get too young, but 48 seems about right. I think that seems kind of hot. Yeah. Native American, I'm all down with that. he's Native American I think it was Indiana American Indiana farmer okay I'm done with farmers I'm fine with that too I didn't see the A

16:20Angie Sullivan:either way I was like what did I miss there all right that's I agree I think you should go break bread with him yeah i just think here's the thing like we're we've been reduced to talking about three hour movies and uh liking text messages versus yeah the selfishness of you not dating for us and the listener look at the shit that we're talking about look at how unimportant and insignificant everything we've just done here is what a fucking waste of time for the listener Now, if you dated that Native American from Indiana and broke bread with him, think about all of the episodes that we could have there.

17:06Yeah, especially if I had sex. Exactly. That'd be a real steen sealer. All right.

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18:37Angie Sullivan:That's 50 % off your first year at Monarch.com with the code HATIT. All right. I have some stories I want to share. Pumps. I want to run this by you. For those of you that don't know, Pumps was a divorce attorney. Jobless husband wants to be compensated for contributing more to housework while unemployed, and the wife disagrees. Despite agreeing with his wife that he should be doing more helpful chores, he suggested that it would only be fair if she pitched in more than her usual 50 % to the household bills. That way, I could at least have some spending money the coming months, he explains. She disagrees, and we had a somewhat civil argument about it.

19:22Angie Sullivan:We couldn't see eye to eye. The way she sees it, I can still pay for my part of the household money, so I should. And I do have some free time, so it's normal that I'd spend more time on chores, etc. She sees my point of view as her paying me for doing housework in our own home, which she finds absurd. Meanwhile, he says he has a different way of looking at their situation. Yes, it makes a lot of sense for me to do more housework in this period, but it also makes a lot of sense for her to chip in more, he says. I think it's unfair that she expects me to spend my extra time on housework, but she won't support me extra financially.

20:06This enrages me. this enrages me to the point welcome to the american married woman forever this is unbelievable that it's become an article published somewhere because now a man's bitching about it when you've had women that have not had their own money their own checking accounts that have to do every fucking thing for the house and the kids and now it's a problem fuck you fuck you fuck you

20:40Angie Sullivan:that's what I say I agree with you and I just think that this is a lot of men I remember one time when the kids were little Josh would say I babysat the kids last night and I'm like no you didn't babysit your kids you lived your life in the house where everybody lives together you were just living your life on a Friday night. That does not constitute babysitting when they're your fucking kids. A woman would never say, I babysat my kids on Friday night. It's impossible because the kids live in the house. The husband lives in the house. The wife lives in the house. Y 'all are just living your life on a Friday night.

21:21Angie Sullivan:It's not babysitting. And that, I have heard that ever since I've known people that have had kids. The husband will say, She went out and I babysat. It's like, what the fuck? You can't babysit your own kids. And here's the thing too. This is one of my biggest pet peeves when I was married. And you know this. I would come home after doing something, whatever it was. Maybe it was even entertainment. And I would get, I did the laundry. And the laundry would be in a big wad out of the dryer, sitting somewhere that it hadn't been folded. or I unloaded the dishwasher. Big fucking deal you unloaded the dishwasher.

22:02I unload the dishwasher every day. You don't get a parade for doing what you're supposed to do in your house. It's just these men. It's just unbelievable how much credit they want and how much they want to be coddled when they're asked to do the same thing that their spouse has done for years and years and years, decades, forever.

22:25Angie Sullivan:Completely agree. And this brings me to our next story. MAGA Christian nationalists have lost their fucking minds even worse than yesterday. Here is self-described prophet and pastor Donna Rigney claiming she opened a portal over the White House to speak to Trump. Play the clip. And we're all done the next day. Father explained to me, he said that now that this was opened, this portal was opened over the White House and over Mar-a-Lago. Donald Trump was going to easily be able to get intel from the Holy Spirit. That God was going to easily be able to give him wisdom for decisions he has to make.

23:11It's just open, open communication.

23:14Angie Sullivan:that God will easily be able to speak to him and he'll hear him. So it's interesting that she says this because a portal just opened up over this podcasting studio. And the Holy Spirit is communicating to me that she needs a straight jacket in a padded cell. And also the Holy Spirit is communicating to me that Donald Trump is an embarrassment to the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit hates his guts. and um so we're not you're not the only people that have the portal uh donna rigney we have a portal as well and i mean fuck it let's just start doing let's just start our podcast with a little light tongue talking every episode i mean why not why do they get to do all this crazy shit and claim they have all this existential connection to all of this shit i mean this is so fucking insane and here's the problem here's the problem you guys pumps and i are from a bible Belt State, you would be shocked at how non-fringe this is in Bible Belt States.

24:14You would be shocked how non-fringe it is. And I just, one thing I wanted to point out is the host, did you notice doe-eyed Kelsey was going under her breath, amen, amen.

24:29Angie Sullivan:You all are an embarrassment to each other. You're an embarrassment. Why didn't you just say amen when I was talking about my portal? Amen. i'm gonna start doing that i'm gonna start doing hands up when you like when you start going off like on an ihip news or something amen yeah this is so fucking crazy but here's the deal i cannot tell you how many of these people i think even family members it'll be like you know i was down on my knees and i was praying and you know i just god just told me whatever the deal, you know, he just told me, he just hit, here's one. He just hit me over the head. This is what you need to be doing.