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16:37Raquel D'Apice:But that is a situation where that kid is going to be a titty baby. But the mom raised a titty baby. You have a titty baby parent that is completely. And I think parents oftentimes just enable their kids when they're adults. When they're little, you're the center of my universe is an appropriate thing to say because it's literally and figuratively and metaphorically true. When your kids become adults, like it's okay to say to them, I don't have time to listen to your story right now. I love you, but I don't have time. I think parents enable this. you are the most special thing on the planet into adulthood.

17:18Raquel D'Apice:And then they go to work and guess what? They're just some other motherfucker that punches the clock. Right.

17:26Ayman Mohyeldin:Right. Their boss doesn't like, oh my gosh, Johnny, you got here on time today. Here, let's take a selfie and post on Instagram because you're the greatest employee in the world. I mean, I have kids in the workforce or of workforce age and they have told me, well, my daughter, about friends that have like cried in the bathroom at work because somebody was mean to them or whatever. I'm just like, they're bigger mountains to climb.

17:51Raquel D'Apice:I'll tell you, that's something I noticed in my interior design business. When you hire people that are not of your generation, I noticed there was more crying. And I cry and I'm probably a sociopath. All right. There's, I mean, there's a good, strong case to be made for that. I cry maybe once annually tops. I mean, it takes a lot for me to cry. And I understand that some people cry very easily, and I'm not mocking that. But there were certain things that somebody who worked for me would cry about. And I remember I was just thinking, this is not commensurate with what happened. Like, this is just – these two things don't go together.

18:32Raquel D'Apice:What happened here in this level of tears don't belong in the same chapter in the same book. These are two completely different incidents. The one thing is here is this thing got messed up at work. The other problem here is you're a basket case.

18:46Ayman Mohyeldin:Right. And you're going to have mess ups and you're going to be called out. You can't get your feelings hurt. Work is not personal.

18:52Raquel D'Apice:No.

18:52Ayman Mohyeldin:It's just that story. I'll tell you what, even though I know that I was shocked by the numbers.

18:58Raquel D'Apice:That's shocking. That's really shocking. Okay, next up. I want to get the legal, the Beaver Legal Eagles opinion on this, considering she's America's top divorce attorney. Man donated his kidney to his wife and demanded it back for 1.5 million when he filed for divorce. A shocking divorce case went viral after a man demanded either his kidney back or 1.5 million in compensation from his wife. Years earlier, he donated the organ to save her life. When she later filed for divorce, he argued that his life-saving gift should be factored into the settlement. While the case stirred massive public debate, courts ruled that organ donations are legally considered gifts and cannot be reclaimed regardless of personal circumstances.

19:47Ayman Mohyeldin:Completely agree. It's a gift. You gave it voluntarily. it's just like when you have a family heirloom for a wedding ring and your daughter or your son gives it to his fiance as an engagement ring and then they get divorced I've had so many clients say well I should get that ring back it was my grandmother's tough shit it was a gift like you

20:10Raquel D'Apice:gave it to her it wasn't like no take backs you have to so hold up so if like I guess that makes sense. I'm just trying to play. So if I gave my son my wedding ring to propose to his fiancee and they get divorced, I can't say, wait, I want that back. No, it's dead. It's a gift. It's a gift. Okay.

20:32Ayman Mohyeldin:I agree with that. Yeah. And the kidney is the same thing. It was a gift. You don't get compensated for a gift. Fuck off. That's pretty fucking petty too. Arguing about you want compensation for your kidney.

20:45Raquel D'Apice:Yeah. I mean, here's what I'm thinking. She fucked around. She fucked around. He found out he does not want the opposing penis near his kidney. That's what I think, too. It's just he's immediately protecting his kidney from close proximity to a foreign penis.

21:01Ayman Mohyeldin:Yeah, he thought he would be the only penis close to that kidney. Yeah. Now he has.

21:04Raquel D'Apice:It's the only thing that makes sense.

21:06Ayman Mohyeldin:That level of pettiness doesn't come if there's no fucking around.

21:10Raquel D'Apice:Yeah. Foreign penis involved. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Incoming foreign invasion. All right. Next up, marriage graduation refers to couples who move away yet still remain married. Marriage graduation is growing in popularity and it refers to a legally married couple who chose to live apart to pursue individual goals, personal freedom, or a renewed appreciation for each other without the constraints of traditional cohabitation. This arrangement allows for independence and personal fulfillment in later years with couples maintaining their love and commitment while, quote, graduating from the daily obligations of living together.

21:53I think if this was the standard, far less people would get divorced.

21:58Ayman Mohyeldin:Far, far, far less.

21:59Raquel D'Apice:I think it's the perfect solution to marriage. I'm about to do this. I've, listener, I've rented an apartment in New York. I just moved my youngest son to California for college. I always wanted to live in New York. I'm tired of being in the Bible Belt, although the friends that I have here, red state liberals are built different. We're tougher. If we were running the Democratic Party right now, people would not feel so much despair. But I always wanted to do it. So I rented an apartment. I'm going to go back and forth. But Josh will stay here because he has a law practice. And I do. I kind of feel like I graduated.

22:33Raquel D'Apice:Like I did it. I survived you, Josh. I think about me. same i raised the kids and i love josh and i love the time that i spend with him but we're not so like somebody asked me the other day aren't you gonna miss josh i was like yeah i will but i'm not a person like that like yearns like oh my god i miss you so much my heart you guys aren't super

22:57Ayman Mohyeldin:emotionally needy of each other at all you're not i mean which i think is healthy but i have a girlfriend that her husband travels like three weeks a month she's like that's the secret to her happy marriage. I mean, she's happier than she's ever been. And it's because they're a part of them. And I just think living with someone, the mundane things about living with somebody else get on your nerves. In a situation like that, it's just you're excited to see them and it's fun. You miss them. I think it's great. I think we should start doing this.

23:27Raquel D'Apice:Yeah, I think it's I think the way that we have set stuff up, I think this is a part of like what MAGA is fighting so much against. Yes, they want everybody to have this, even though Trump's been married three or four times and we have all the DL LGBTQs like Mike Johnson that plays House and Congressman during the day and then power bottom at night on Grindr, in my opinion. I don't know that it for sure does that, but if I were betting in Vegas, I'd probably win. But the idea that women could have this level of independence, whether she says, yes, honey, you go and you live somewhere to do this for your career or whatever your dream is, or that a man would be supportive of his wife, that type of equality is so healthy.

24:16Raquel D'Apice:And it's the natural evolution of our society, of our democracy, of civilization in making both genders equal. But it's what terrifies the DL, LGBTQ plus movement that crashed Grindr twice, whose leader performs oral sex on microphones and gets really, really excited about the size of penises. The excitement in that video, the large penis. Talks about it openly. He goes, the size of that thing.

24:52Ayman Mohyeldin:Well, we all know from Stormy Daniels, he's got a little bit of tiny nubbin.

24:56Raquel D'Apice:Yeah.

24:56Ayman Mohyeldin:But I do think Make America Great Again means make women in the home where they can't get a credit card, that they can't own a home. I mean, do not fool yourself, white women. Do not fool yourself. They want your daughters at home cooking and cleaning and submitting to a husband. I believe that full stop.

25:13Raquel D'Apice:Well, remember the news story I read a few episodes ago where the husband told the wife, they were like a trad marriage, God wants me to spank you. And her pastor told her she had to submit to that. So basically, her pastor told her to submit to sexual violence because it wasn't just a slap and tickle sexual encounter. Of course, it was just downright he was a sadist. Right. And it was incredibly abusive. And these places don't make women safe. And at the epicenter of this MAGA movement are emotionally stunted people. Yep. The DLLGBTQs in which I speak are incredibly emotionally stunted, unlike those that have pride in the community that did the work and fight for equality and civil rights.

26:07Raquel D'Apice:Same thing for these misogynists. These are broken people with inner child issues that refuse to go to therapy. And we haven't even touched on Stephen Miller. I think that's got to be a full-blown S &M style something. I picture him. He acts like he's the tough guy. But if I were a betting gal in Vegas betting on the proclivities of these MAGA men, here's where I would bet Stephen Miller is. You know that famous scene from Pulp Fiction where the large black actor gets the ball gag put on and the two rednecks anally R.A.P. He him. Stephen Miller in public likes to play like he would be the R.A.P.

26:57Raquel D'Apice:I.S.T. in private, I think he's with the ball gag getting pegged.

27:03Ayman Mohyeldin:Yeah. I 100 % think he's the submissive. Yeah. And he likes to be browbeat and ugly talk too.

27:09Raquel D'Apice:And I think he likes to get pegged.

27:11Ayman Mohyeldin:Yeah.

27:11Raquel D'Apice:I think we have a situation where he likes to get pegged and spanked. That's my opinion. And probably think, oh, why are you talking about this? Blah, blah, blah. Because these people are specifically broken, especially broken around sex. And we need to talk about why these people are so broken that they are ripping our democracy to shreds. Have religious pastors, Pete Hexas' pastor, talks about women losing the right to vote. So this is serious. Like, it is as serious as it gets. These are Christian nationalist psychos, many of whom are DL, LGBTQ pluses. And, I mean, basically I've had it. I've had it too.

27:56Raquel D'Apice:Pumps and I need to share with everybody that we have written a book. It's called Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. And believe it or not, Pumps and I have not always been so rock solid. And we talk about all of our trials, tribulations, most of all our fuck ups. Yes, because fuck ups are relatable and a part of the human experience.

28:17Ayman Mohyeldin:I have gotten so much feedback regarding the book that because of my situation with the religion and addiction and all that, that people relate to that. So I do think there's something to take away that's comforting about it, because we've all been in very difficult situations.

28:34Raquel D'Apice:And listener, what we want you to do, this is the it book for summer reading. So please get your copy of Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches and take a picture of yourself with the book in really great places and tag at I've had it podcast. And we will share your images with our summer book. You can buy it in bookstores. You can buy it in the link in our bio, you can buy it at Target, Walmart, Amazon, etc. All the retailers, happy reading and happy summer.

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31:44Raquel D'Apice:We have a really exciting guest today. He's very smart. I'm hoping that we can keep up. I think he might be a little bit smarter than us combined, which is not that smart. We were on his show on MSNBC, and he is the co-host of The Weekend Primetime. Let's welcome to I've Had It, Eamon Moheldin. Did I pronounce it correctly?

32:10Jami Lynn:Yes, absolutely.

32:11Raquel D'Apice:Oh, my gosh. I have to admit, Kylie did like a phonetic spelling for me. But Eamon, how are you?

32:21Jami Lynn:I'm good, given all things. You know, that question is a very difficult question to answer these days with everything that's happening in the country and overseas. I feel like when you answer it, you kind of answer it on two levels. One level is just kind of very reflexive. I'm doing well. My family's doing well. Everybody's doing well. But then it's so hard to kind of watch what is happening in your community, to your friends, to your country, to people overseas, and not feel affected by it.

32:46Raquel D'Apice:That split screen, I think, is the most relatable thing that all Americans feel. Because I will go about my life and I'll listen to some yacht rock in my car and I'm driving down the road. I'm singing. My dogs are in the back. The windows are down. I see their faces out. And I'm thinking, God, this is a great day. And then it hits me or I look down at my phone and Kanks, that's what we call Donald Trump, short for Kankles, McTaco tits. We just call him Kanks. Kanks has done some crazy shit or he signed some F'd up executive order. And then it hits me. And it's like this complete duality where on the one hand, I'm genuinely pretty happy.

33:26Raquel D'Apice:And I feel free, like I'm having a good time. And then I know that he is causing all this pain and suffering and sending people to concentration camps. And I don't even think he's mentally all there.

33:41Jami Lynn:He's not. In fact, I was just actually sharing a clip with a friend of mine anecdotally. He was the other day. I mean, there's so many of these clips now that just make you think this guy does not seem to be all mentally there. But I just shared a clip with a friend of mine at the White House. He was standing next to the president of FIFA talking about how he thinks he's a great soccer player. He looks great in shorts. He's a great athlete.

34:05Raquel D'Apice:And he thinks he's a good athlete.

34:07Jami Lynn:Yeah, this is a guy who thinks he's 6 '3", 6 '4", 220 pounds. Maybe I think he thinks he's like a built like a linebacker, an NFL linebacker. And I'm just thinking in my head, like, you know, again, I have this expression if Biden would have, because there are so many moments now where you're just watching this. You're watching these press conferences. You're watching these moments. You're watching him trip on the stairs. You're watching him fumble. Very basic language. You're finding him, you know, mixing up the names of very prominent governors like Gretchen Whitman. He's called her Christine Whitman, I think.

34:41Jami Lynn:or something. And you think if Joe Biden would have done this, there would have been a media meltdown. There would have been nonstop wall to wall coverage of is he mentally competent? Should he continue to be president? Is it time for him to step aside? And yet as a small just example of the double standards that we have in this country, Donald Trump says it, people laugh it off, people brush it off, people just move on with their lives. There's not this media meltdown from the right and certainly not from anywhere else. And we just kind of move on like it's totally normal.

35:10Ayman Mohyeldin:Right. It's not at the top of the fold. My if Biden is if Merrick Garland would have taken care of fucking business, we would not be here. Like I cannot express how disappointed I am with the Merrick Garland Department of Justice because he should be in jail right now. We shouldn't even be having these conversations.

35:33Jami Lynn:And again, you bring up such an important point about the different set of rules that Republicans play by and that the Democrats play by. And everything with Republicans, specifically this administration, is all about projection, right? They project onto their enemies, their foes, what they want done, because they always have a double standard with what they think is the set of rules for them versus what the rules are for everybody else. And I'll give you a very good point about Merrick Garland. You're talking about an attorney general who came in on the heels of an insurrection, on the heels that everybody could see was incited by Donald Trump after a phone call in which the president of the United States called the secretary of state of Georgia, telling him, go find me votes.

36:18Jami Lynn:It took him months to just prepare and think about and roll his time or, you know, take his time in rolling out this investigation. Donald Trump has been in office for what, about seven months, eight months. Look at the way that he has weaponized the Department of Justice, reopened investigations into people like John Bolton, who I have no love for as a politician or as an official in this country for what he has done, but nonetheless deserves due process. Had an investigation into classified documents effectively closed under Biden, only to be reopened by this administration. You have basically a list that was published by Kash Patel that they are now kind of slowly working their way through from former officials that they dislike, whether it's James Comey or John Brennan or all these other officials.

37:10Jami Lynn:So it's just mind boggling. It's mind boggling that anybody who's watching this administration is not aware of how they have moved to weaponize the Department of Justice and project what they have always criticized the other side of doing. Now they are doing it themselves.

37:26Raquel D'Apice:I mean, he always I think he telegraphs everything that he's going to do by either projecting what like he'll say, we're not going to have a country anymore. Well, that is his end turn. I mean, when you when you erode the judiciary, ultimately, you will erode the economy. So all of these country club Republicans that voted because they wanted the tax break, but they're socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. When you erode the judiciary, you do that by electing a convicted felon. And when that convicted felon then pardons all of the insurrectionists, that just starts. And of course, the Supreme Court started that before.

38:05Raquel D'Apice:But I always am because we live in a red state. And so the folks that look like Angie and me that ended up trumping, you know, they did it, they say, for fiscal reasons. And those things just you cannot square that circle because when you erode the judiciary, where do businesses take their contracts to enforce them? And the economy is inevitably next. But before we get too far into kinks, we like to do just a light dusting of everyday grievances because we have to live in that split screen that we were talking about earlier. So, Eamon, what have you had it with?

38:39Jami Lynn:OK, I don't know if you're experiencing this, but, you know, it's almost back to school here in New York. My kids are getting ready to go back to school in about a week's time. And we are already starting to get the emails from the schools. We're starting to get the WhatsApp groups up and running. And I got to be honest with you. I have had it. I have had it with all these WhatsApp groups, chat groups, you know, all the emails that we're getting from the schools and everything to do with the school hasn't even started yet. And I feel like already overwhelmed with like registering for aftercare classes, enrichment classes, what you have to do, the timeline, the groups, what you have to buy.

39:16Jami Lynn:And I'm like, I feel like you need an entire, you need like an assistant just to go through the emails and WhatsApp messages involving the kids back to school programs. And it's just overwhelming.

39:28Raquel D'Apice:How old are your kids?

39:30Jami Lynn:I have an eight-year-old daughter and a six-year-old son. Okay.

39:34Raquel D'Apice:I wish I could tell you that when they get to high school, it gets better, But I have bad news for you. My youngest son just graduated from high school and I just moved him to USC last week. And thank you. And the senior mom group me was so incredibly psychotic and codependent. We have this phrase in the South where when somebody is a mama's boy or a mama's girl, we call them titty babies, right? So you have a generation of titty babies, but really they're raised by hyper-involved parents that titty babied them. And we were just talking about this before you came on. And I think it's a huge problem because I remember when I was younger, I don't know that my mother was ever at the high school.

40:25Raquel D'Apice:Never. Not one time.

40:27Jami Lynn:Yeah. Yeah, it's such an interesting point. I mean, I'm going through this also because, you know, I'm from the generation where we did not have Internet. We did not have emails. I think my parents also as immigrants were still kind of figuring out the public school system in America. So that was a bit of a learning curve. And we spent a lot of it trying to figure it out ourselves. And I think for the most part, it worked well. But now it's like almost too much involvement, I think. And I don't mean this in a bad way, but I feel like at some point you just want to have your kids try to kind of I mean, my kids are still young.

40:56Jami Lynn:So I want to be involved. But to the extent that they can with the school figure these things out, it would be great. I don't know, like getting a list of every single thing and an update of every single activity and every single meal that they're having and what lunch they're having and what's on the menu this week. I'm just kind of it's so overwhelming. And like I said, it is something that we're trying to navigate to the best of our abilities with like full time jobs. And it's not we're not doing a very good job. Let me just say that.

41:24Ayman Mohyeldin:I kind of think you're doing a disservice to your kids. And I wasn't over mother. I'm not saying I wasn't. But the mothers that are at school all the time that are constantly in people's business, hey, little Johnny's having a snack and I'm doing this. It's just like, shut up. Like, get more to do. Maybe a part time job for you. Maybe something that you could do outside of being your kid's business. But it gets worse. I'm telling you, it gets worse.

41:48Raquel D'Apice:Here's what I have to say about my co-host pumps who I love. It was probably about four years ago. So we have five kids between us. No listener. We're not lesbians, but we did kind of raise our kids together.

42:00Ayman Mohyeldin:Yeah, we did raise our kids together. Not that there's anything wrong if we were lesbians.

42:02Raquel D'Apice:Nonetheless, her oldest son was the first to college. And I remember exactly where we were. We went to lunch at this restaurant in Oklahoma City called Saturn Grill. And she gets a message. And I think her son was a sophomore. and she is in a college group me. And I want to tell you that I really let her have it because I thought this is beyond the pale. Kids need to go to college and fail. You need to succeed and fail. Like failing is a part of childhood that prepares you for adulthood because adulthood is a series of failures. And you wake up and you look in the mirror and you go, you dumb bitch, you failed again.

42:44Raquel D'Apice:And you have to rinse and repeat and go over and over until you can learn to manage it. But it goes on into college. Are you in any parent group meets right now in college? I don't even have group me on my phone anymore. Okay. This is growth.

42:56Ayman Mohyeldin:This is growth. Yeah. And if I responded on the group me, my son would be furious. But no, the group me, when I finally deleted the app, he was a junior or maybe in college. And the moms are still going strong. Still going strong.

43:12Jami Lynn:Well, I feel like it becomes like a bit of a support group for the parents and it's less about the kids, right? Like, I mean, there have been times where I'm on these group chats where I get a sense that they it's like the parents want to go have a drink and they want to go hang out. And I thought like the WhatsApp group was supposed to be, hey, here's the situation at the school. Here's like we need volunteers. We need a parent to go on a trip to chaperone the kids. But it ends up morphing into like a social calendar for like 60, 70 different parents in the entire class in the different groups.

43:42Jami Lynn:And I'm like, guys, I don't have, I don't want, like, I love you guys, but I don't know, I don't care about what your summer plans are, who's going where and who's doing what. And it's just like, let's be, let's be to the point. If it has to involve the kids, let's just kind of keep it focused on that. If we need to put them in a camp, who's going to do drop-offs, who's going to do pick-off? Let's kind of like use it as a logistical support tool as opposed to like a support, like mental support group for the entire parent.

44:06Raquel D'Apice:And then also in the South, it turns into, and I'm sure you've been a part of this, kind of like out momming each other and then taking a victory lap in the group. Me, I've had it with that. Like you win, you can have it. You can have at it, girl. You go be the homeroom mom, swing for the fences, sis. Your kid is going to be the titty baby that goes to work. And his mom isn't there to tell him, congratulations, she made it on time. And it's going to have a meltdown. Like it's, this drives us crazy. and Godspeed, because I think it keeps getting worse and worse. Okay. You had another one that you emailed with us, which I want to talk about, which I think is really good.

44:45Raquel D'Apice:You said that you had had it with countries that don't use air conditioning during the summer. And you were recently in France.

44:52Jami Lynn:Yes. So this, this was a bit of a rude awakening for me, I have to say. You know, we, we just did our summer vacation and we spent a little time in Paris. My wife actually has an apartment in Paris. And so we were able to use it for the first time in a long time. And I didn't know this, but it didn't have air conditioning. We were in Paris in the middle of a heat wave. And so she tells me as we are arriving to Paris, oh, by the way, you know, this apartment, nice apartment, very, you know, comfortable for us, doesn't have air conditioning. And I'm like, what do you mean it doesn't have air conditioning?

45:26Jami Lynn:Apparently France, less than 20 % of apartments in France have air conditioning. And I'm like, okay, hold on. And France, we always think of France as like a civilized country because of like the museums and the art. And it's like so sophisticated. How do you guys not have air conditioning? I mean, I've been to third world countries that have air conditioning in every apartment. How does France not have it? And so apparently it's also become like a political issue now in France between like the right and the left, between some people who think that, you know, we should have a push to modernize apartments and have air conditioning.

45:59Jami Lynn:And those that think it's bad for the environment and sitting in your apartment in the dark in the middle of the day, sweating bullets is totally normal. And I'm just like, I was definitely love going to France, speak French. This was the first time I had heard them complain about being in Paris and France. So I was like, I think I convinced her that it's time to have air conditioning.

46:25Raquel D'Apice:You know, I OK, I I see your point about that. And I have to sleep with air conditioning. But I think that there needs to be a middle ground because so many times in the United States, the air conditioning in the summer, I'm freezing my ass off inside places. I'm literally freezing that I'm craving going to get into my car that I know has been sitting in the sun so I can just feel the warmth envelop me. It seems like there's just an extreme. There's either no IC, like what you're doing over there, or half the time in the United States, I'm freezing all summer long, that it's like 100 degrees in Oklahoma, and I have a sweater around my neck just for being indoors.

47:03Jami Lynn:Yeah, I agree with you. That's a little bit too much. And you don't need to have that. And that maybe is a sign of being a little bit excessive. If you have to put on a scarf in 100 degree weather indoors in Oklahoma. I think for me, I'd rather have the option. So let's just start with saying, okay, let's have the AC unit in the apartment. And if it gets too hot or too cold, you can regulate. But we didn't have a choice. So we're just like sitting there in the dark. All we had was like a small little tiny fan that we're all like huddled around at night so we can fall asleep. But as you can imagine, it really did not cool anyone down.

47:39Ayman Mohyeldin:No, that would have sent me into absolute. I would have had the tailspin to end all tailspins. Would you Uber to a hotel? I would 100%. I would have Ubered to a hotel. I would have been like, peace out, bitches. I can't do it. I just can't. Like my air conditioning broke for like 24 hours and you would have thought that I was losing my kidneys because I was like, this has to happen. I mean, I can't live without air conditioning. I'm too far the other end. I agree.

48:05Jami Lynn:And listen, you can call me. I mean, my wife thinks I'm a little bit coddled because I am so used to like. Are you a titty baby, Eamon?

48:14Raquel D'Apice:Are you coddled?

48:16Jami Lynn:Listen, I have lived in a lot of hardship places in my life. Okay. I've lived in Gaza. I've lived in Iraq during the war. I've spent a lot of time in Syria. I've spent a lot of time in countries that have gone through a lot of hardship. I feel like I've earned the right to say I would like to have air conditioning.

48:34Raquel D'Apice:Especially in 2025. But you mentioned that you've lived in Gaza. And we have been on your show. And then you and Pumps and I texted about this subject afterwards, which was a great conversation. And, you know, this is something that is going on actively. And for people that live in flyover states like we do, there's not a lot of diversity. You hear about the stuff that's going on. And I'm not saying pumps in me, but the average American voter is pretty low information about this. There is there are people on the coast that are hyper involved in it. But when you get to swaths of America, not for me personally, but like for friends that are left-leaning will say, yeah, I don't really get what's going on over there.

49:21Raquel D'Apice:It seems like they're always fighting. And then they just move back into their American ethnocentrism. But there's a gal named Miss Rachel. She has this YouTube channel, right? And so all of these people that are a generation younger than me, that like I have these nephews that are having babies now and they're watching Miss Rachel all the time. And Miss Rachel is talking about what's happening to these children and the famine and the starvation. And so it's piqued some interest of some women that have small children that live in flyover states. And recently, you know, we're in the news all the time, not in it.

49:57Raquel D'Apice:Well, we were a couple of weeks ago when I chewed out MAGA. But since then, it's been pretty good. But we keep our eyeballs on the news. And I saw that this week Israel attacked a hospital and killed five journalists. And I think what pisses me off so much about this is just that on its face. But then when you dig behind it, you saw American politicians when this war started autographing bombs that were going over there. And then when I think about Democrats, I expect this from MAGA. They're into cruelty. They don't give a shit. I get that. But Democrats, when I know that they will say Vladimir Putin's bad, Donald Trump is bad.

50:38Raquel D'Apice:Alligator Alcatraz is effed up. Denying people due process is effed up. Vladimir Putin has kidnapped 1.6 million Ukrainian children. And then they don't say a fucking word about Benjamin Netanyahu. It makes me crazy, that moral duplicity. And once you start opening your eyes up to it, it gets more and more daunting the further you look. So I want you to speak to this, to our audience who might be some progressives in these flyover states and explain. I think your mother's Palestinian. And because a lot of Americans were just our whole experience is just America. America. It is. So help us understand how this situation harms the American public.

51:29Jami Lynn:Well, yeah, I mean, there's a lot to unpack there. And thank you so much for that question. Let me start with that last point, because it is such an important point, because one of the things that a lot of supporters of Israel do is that when we in America speak up about what is happening and what Israel is doing to Palestinians that is being enabled by America, the first thing that is often used to shut down conversation is, well, what about Sudan? What about Congo? What about any host of countries that are experiencing atrocities that rightfully deserve a lot of attention? But to your point, we in America have a tremendous responsibility for what Israel is doing in Gaza because we are bankrolling that entire country.

52:12Jami Lynn:We're giving it military aid. We're giving it diplomatic cover at the United Nations. We shield it from accountability at the ICC and ICJ. I mean, we're we're sanctioning. We are literally sanctioning the international court that we also want to bring Vladimir Putin to justice. But when it came to Israel, that very same court we sanctioned because they wanted to bring Benjamin Netanyahu and the leaders of Hamas to account. But when we talk about America's role in what is happening in Israel and Gaza, we have an extra responsibility because, as I was saying, we provide a diplomatic cover. We provided political cover.

52:53Jami Lynn:We are doing things in this country that we would not even allow for Americans to do. I'll give you one example. You are allowed to boycott American products if you want. If you want to stand up and say, hey, I would like to boycott these companies because I don't like what these companies are doing. and MAGA does this and people on the left do this all the time. If we don't agree with the company, we're allowed to call for the boycott of that company. You're seeing in America, states pass legislation that are anti-BDS laws that if you want to boycott Israel, or if you want to boycott Israeli companies because of what they're involved in, in the oppression of Palestinians, it is becoming illegal in many states in the United States.

53:32Jami Lynn:And that's absurd. So I think the reason that the first thing I would say about this is this issue is an American issue. This is not a foreign policy issue. This is an issue that is reflecting on our society and our country with how we spend our money, what freedoms we're willing to curtail to exercise our rights of free speech when it comes to the issue of Israel. What do we expect of politicians and how dark money and lobbying is affecting the way politicians in this country behave? That's kind of like on the very high level part of the discussion. But when you go to the nitty gritty of it, what I always say to Americans, and you probably know I lived in Georgia.

54:13Jami Lynn:My parents, when they moved to the U.S., they lived in Georgia for a little bit. I went to high school in Georgia. I lived in a deep red district for many years. It's now kind of a bit purplish. But I had a lot of experiences with Americans who didn't know the ins and outs of the conflict, but they understood what is right and what is wrong. And when you explain to people in very simple terms, there is a group of people who would like to have their freedom, want to live freely, want to be able to control their lives without being under military occupation. Americans understand that. And they understand that even more so when you explain to them, we are giving the weapons, we are giving the bombs, we are giving the diplomatic cover that sustains that occupation, that maintains that occupation.

54:56Jami Lynn:And it's done for a whole host of reasons. Some of it is religious fanaticism. There's this kind of like evangelical belief that somehow Israel is the biblical Israel that that they have to support. We heard that from Ted Cruz in his interview with Tucker Carlson, just blindly accepting whatever Israel does, because that's what he thinks the Bible commands him to do. And I think most Americans, when you talk to them and you appeal to them on a very basic moral level, they understand, hey, that seems very wrong that somehow my religion says you can kill other people, including Palestinian Christians.

55:32Jami Lynn:You can oppress Palestinian Christians. You can oppress all of these people in the name of some kind of religious or biblical prophecy. when we live in a country where we instill in people religious freedom, religious equality, the right to worship, whatever you want. But when it comes again to Israel, it's all about a religious supremacy that allows that country to behave in a way that gets away with effectively murder, occupation, and oppression.

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59:27Raquel D'Apice:The way I see it is anti-Semitism are people that are just straight up Jew haters. And you have that explicitly, I think, in MAGA. When you get to our side, you have people that want freedom for everybody and to stop human rights violations, regardless of religion, regardless if you're Jewish, regardless if you're Palestinian. If we see human rights violations, we go and fight for those that are being oppressed. And it just seems like when you get into these conversations right now, it gets so twisted and contorted. And this is what scares the shit out of me, Eamon. the democratic the democratic party is not addressing this and you have marjorie taylor green who is a total anti-semite she is the jew hater that i'm talking about she is the rapture prepper who is making a point because she's a grifter but she is making a point that the maga movement is not america first if they're israel first and this shit will hit hard in red States.

1:00:34Raquel D'Apice:What she says will hit hard and fly over states. And that Democrats not addressing this leaves a vacuum for more MAGA grifters that oppose human rights.

1:00:45Jami Lynn:That is such an important point. And I mean, I'm so glad that you brought up Marjorie Taylor Greene. There is this kind of love that is happening for Marjorie Taylor Greene among some pro-Palestinian activists and others who are watching this and saying, oh, look, even if Marjorie Taylor Greene now is speaking up like this. And Marjorie Taylor Greene, I think we should remind everyone, has not been a supporter of the Palestinian cause. She has time and time again actually stood against Palestinians. She has voted to send weapons to Israel, weapons that have been used to kill Palestinians. She attended the speech of Netanyahu in Congress when she had a chance to boycott it.

1:01:21Jami Lynn:This is a guy who has been indicted as a war criminal. So this idea that somehow she has now had an epiphany and realizes that she had had it wrong all this time, I think to your point, tries to mask a growing concern that she actually harbors anti-Semitic sentiments, if not feelings that are very dangerous and should be condemned at every turn. But what has happened, as you so perfectly said, is that the Democrats who are supposed to be the anti-war party, who are supposed to be the party that speaks with moral clarity about human rights and freedom and oppression, can't even get themselves to say that what is happening in Gaza right now is a genocide when every single major international human rights organization, when Israeli human rights organizations, when every respectable international genocide scholar is telling you that what is happening in Gaza is genocide, the Democrats are basically still tiptoeing around the issue, won't stop sending weapons to Israel, still meeting with an indicted war criminal.

1:02:26Jami Lynn:You talked about Vladimir Putin being given a red carpet treatment in Alaska by Donald Trump and being called out by the American media establishment and the Democrats. What did they do when Benjamin Netanyahu showed up to Washington, D.C.? He's visited Washington, D.C. several times since he has been indicted and, more importantly, during the Trump administration. How many Democrats have met with him? Did Cory Booker meet with him? Did Chuck Schumer meet with him? Yes. And that's my point.

1:02:54Raquel D'Apice:And then Corey kind of hid in the photograph.

1:02:57Jami Lynn:Yes, exactly.

1:02:58Raquel D'Apice:And here's the thing. This is what I'm talking about when you open up your eyes. We had Corey, Senator Booker on the podcast and I really liked him. And it's hard to keep track of all these politicians and everything they do. But then I saw that picture of him behind Benjamin Netanyahu. And I heard the chicken shit excuse that he wouldn't endorse Zoran Mamdani. And then I see Hakeem do the same shit. And it's such chicken shit. It is total chicken shit. And then you start following the money and then you realize, oh, they're prostitutes just like the right is. They're every bit as beholden. And that's what makes me think people will be in the comment section, Jennifer, you should run for office.

1:03:39Raquel D'Apice:I'm like, I would rather earn my money on my back. And at least everybody would know exactly what I was and I wouldn't have to get on TV and lie about it because it is so devastating to hear somebody try to have moral clarity about one thing. You expect it with MAGA, but somebody like Booker or Jeffries have moral clarity about one issue and then just complete blind obedience to Benjamin Netanyahu out of fear of being called an anti-Semite. And that's not what this is. It's a this is about human rights over any sort of ethnic identity or religion. This is a human rights issue before anybody's Jewish, before anybody's Palestinian.

1:04:22Raquel D'Apice:We don't even get to that. We value human beings first and foremost. What they associate with is irrelevant to the suffering, in my opinion.

1:04:30Jami Lynn:Well, and to go back to the first question that you asked me about America and we you know, I alluded to this in the question of lobbying and the ability to influence our politics with money. Look, we had David Hogg, the former vice DNC chair on my show, on our show this past weekend. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. And we've had others, Cameron Kasky and others, very young, smart, you know, the next generation, if you will, of democratic thought leaders in this country. Not politicians, but just people out there having the important conversations. And I asked them point blank. I was like, look, why do you think that Hakeem Jeffries is not endorsing Zohran Mamdani?

1:05:07Jami Lynn:This is a very simple question. You have a candidate who has energized the base. He is speaking to a very specific segment of the population and appealing to young people. He is mobilizing people across all kinds of backgrounds, religious divide, ethnic divides, racial divides, gender divides. He's mobilizing people. He's winning. He's doing the things that you've been telling us that you want. Why is this person not getting your endorsement? And his answer was very simple. It's money. It's AIPAC money. These people put their donors ahead of their voters. And when you put your donors ahead of your voters, you're going to listen to what your donors tell you.

1:05:48Jami Lynn:And right now, the donors of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are telling them, hey, we don't want you to consider what Israel is doing a genocide. We don't want you to consider Benjamin Netanyahu, who is an indicted war criminal, somebody that you should cut off. And they're basically setting the agenda for what the Democratic Party leadership can say and cannot say when it comes to the issue of Israel. You know, you had Catherine Clark, you know, in an interview last week, I think she was speaking and basically the minority whip for the Democrats basically say what is happening in Gaza is genocide.

1:06:21Jami Lynn:And we have to stop this genocide. We have to stop this starvation. A couple of days later, what does she do? She walks it back. Why? Why are you so afraid to describe what everybody is seeing and what people and experts are describing so clearly. And I think for the average Democrat, and I do think honestly, in a lot of flyover parts of the country as well, people have had it. They are waking up and they're looking at their phones and they're seeing these pictures of kids missing limbs with their heads cut off, parents burying their children, children, orphaned, losing all of their parents. They're seeing that on their phones day in and day out.

1:06:57Jami Lynn:And they're like, hey, we do not want to be a part of it. Bernie Sanders was just speaking, I believe, in somewhere in deep red state, part of his fight oligarchy tour. And he talked about the need to cut off weapons to the Israeli government. And he got a standing ovation. I don't understand why more Democrats are not doing that. Why are you not out there speaking with moral clarity about the moral issue of our time?

1:07:22Raquel D'Apice:I think the biggest promoter of anti-Semitism right now is the Israeli government and Benjamin Netanyahu. The backlash to their provocations and their superiority that they think that they have. And then when the American public finds out that you don't have health insurance, but everybody in Israel does, and you have student loan debt, but nobody in Israel does, this is an opportunity that Marjorie Taylor Greene, because she hangs out with Steve Bannon, who is it? They're both nuts. But Steve Bannon is politically savvy and he is using this. And she's starting to message this because you go out to rural America and you start saying stuff like, they're not America first, they're Israel first.

1:08:10Raquel D'Apice:They got free health care. It's an immediate, an immediate reaction to that. And she knows that and she's using it. and why the Democrats aren't and why, I mean, Zoran Mamdani is a fucking layup. It is a goddamn layup. We need new energy. He represents what blue cities and what America looks like, the diversity that we all like in multiculturalism. It drives me crazy. This Democratic leadership drives me insane. But I do think we have to keep pressuring them because we have the leaders that we have. and think about how far Trump pulled the Republican Party. Now they're commies. They're socialists now.

1:08:53Raquel D'Apice:I mean, think about how far they went. Yeah. So we can pull, I mean, we have to keep pressure on the leaders we have and we have to keep pulling them, you know, as far as we can until, you know, there's an election or whatever. So I think these conversations are important. Hakeem and Corey, come on, bros. I mean, come on. This is insane. All right. But it's time to move on to our world famous game. World famous. World famous. Barack Obama's played it. Yeah. So it's Kamala Harris and now you. All right. It's called

1:09:29Raquel D'Apice:it's not impressed at all. All right. For two old broads from Oklahoma.

1:09:33Jami Lynn:I didn't know this was in the works, but let's do it. Okay.

1:09:36Raquel D'Apice:It's called had it or hit it. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it.

1:09:44Ayman Mohyeldin:I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.

1:09:47Raquel D'Apice:Okay. Had it or hit it. Cranky flight attendants.

1:09:51Jami Lynn:Had it. Definitely had it. Definitely had it. See hours on a plane with a cranky flight attendant who's like flinging, you know, a bag of chips across the aisle and hitting you in the face. Or if you ask for a bottle of water telling you, wait, you got to wait 30 minutes until I can get it to you. Or no, I've definitely had it with cranky flight attendants. See, I'm a little opposite. What's that?

1:10:13Ayman Mohyeldin:I'm a little opposite because I feel like they have to deal. I feel like teachers and flight attendants have the worst jobs because they have to deal with the general public. And in teacher's case, the parents of the general public, which is the worst. And I just like, I loved it in COVID when they duct taped those people to the seats that got online. I was like, fucking go. They deserve it. They need it because some people just cannot assimilate into normal behavior, just even long enough to ride a plane.

1:10:40Raquel D'Apice:We both kind of want to be cranky flight attendants. I think after you go through a decade more of the group chat, you might go, okay, I fucking get it now. I want a job where I can go to work and go, you need to straighten up or I'm kicking your ass off the plane. no water for you. Shut the fuck up. I'm kind of into it.

1:11:00Jami Lynn:I will say this. So here's my issue. Maybe and maybe we can split the difference, which is maybe it's the airline companies that make the experience of travel so bad that everybody from the moment they're about to get on that plane, they just feel like shit, whether you're a passenger or you're a flight attendant. Because by the time you get on that plane, after going through everything you've gone through, the fees that you've had to pay, the crap that you've had to deal with about luggage or your bag is one pound overweight, or, you know, you don't, you can't do that. It doesn't fit in the carriage, take your shoes off, pour the water out, whatever it is, you get on that plane and you're so cranky and you just want a cup of water or like a, you know, bag of peanuts.

1:11:37Jami Lynn:And so the flight attendant is already like at a disadvantage. She's getting a customer who's probably annoyed. So I do think that the entire airline industry needs to be disrupted, needs to be made over. We need to stop bailing out these companies. Totally agree.

1:11:50Raquel D'Apice:The corporate welfare.

1:11:52Jami Lynn:I don't want to make a time like I'm against the flight attendants. I get they have hard jobs, but I do feel that if we made the entire, if we revolutionize the entire airline industry, everybody from the moment they get on that plane, they get a comfortable seat. You get a freaking bottle of water that should not cost you an arm or a leg. And you can easily just watch a little bit of TV and get on with your journey.

1:12:11Ayman Mohyeldin:I agree. I think we should put Sean Duffy in charge of it. He's doing so well. Oh, my God. Okay.

1:12:18Raquel D'Apice:Had it or hit it, South Park.

1:12:20Jami Lynn:Oh, definitely hit it. Love that show. Love that show.

1:12:24Raquel D'Apice:You know, I believe in repetition in politics. And South Park is repeating the teeny weeny that we all know to be true from Stormy Daniels. And so we talk about that a lot, Little Dick Energy. We talk about that a lot because we're petty and bored and in red state America. But I love that they just keep hammering it at them. And the fact that originally, I think Charlie Kirk was somewhat flattered. Yeah. Because they just don't seem to get jokes. Yeah, exactly.

1:12:57Jami Lynn:And look, honestly, for me, look, I am a free speech absolutist. I think that you have to have the ability to speak absolutely freely about everything that you want in this country. And it's a very difficult time when you're watching kind of the media and entertainment landscape with all of the changes that are happening on. Sometimes there's been a lot of criticism against the media and news organizations, big media companies, many of them bending the knee to Donald Trump out of fear, studios talking about how they need to change the culture and the content of what they're creating to appeal more to MAGA, whatever.

1:13:29Jami Lynn:And that's fine if you think that's a commercial business sense. I don't want to get into that. But ultimately, what I love about South Park is they have constantly pushed and tested the limits of the boundaries of free speech. Is it always tasteful? No, but it's not meant to be. It's a cartoon that is supposed to just mock people in power. And so you don't have to laugh at every joke, but you can't deny that you can appreciate the fact that they keep the boundaries of what they want to say as expansive as possible. And I think for me, that is a net win for this country when you're talking about free speech across the board.

1:14:07Jami Lynn:The more free speech shrinks, whether it is political speech or entertainment speech or comedy, the more our society loses big time. Yeah.

1:14:18Raquel D'Apice:And I think it just, it also, my whole like thesis sentence about a lot of these MAGA people in the MAGA movement. It's like trickle down grievances. It's trickle down titty babies. All Trump does is whining. He's a victim. I mean, Stephen Colbert hurts his feelings. 60 Minutes hurts his feelings. South Park hurts his feelings. And then it just trickles down where everybody's feelings are hurt. And everybody, pardon my language, but the MAGA movement is just the biggest grouping of pussies I've ever seen masquerading as, look at us, we're alpha males, and we got nuts on our Ford F-150s. We got truck nuts and it's just, it's too much.

1:14:59Raquel D'Apice:I've had it with them. Okay, two more. Had it or hit it, Cracker Barrel.

1:15:05Jami Lynn:I, are you talking about the change in the logo or just generally across the board? Because I gotta be honest with you. No, I hit it. I like Cracker Barrel. Listen, again, I'm telling you, I played sports in high school in Georgia. This was like in the mid nineties. Cracker Barrel was a go-to spot before games, after games. It was right up there with Applebee's and Chili's. So you're not going to get any criticism from me about Cracker Barrel as a stop to eat or all you can eat. I mean, I'm there for it.

1:15:36Raquel D'Apice:OK, last one. Had it or hit it the United States of America?

1:15:41Jami Lynn:I'm going to go with hit it. I'm always, listen, you know, I have this conversation a lot with friends, and especially when we're overseas this summer, a lot of people are asking me about the United States, like what's going on, how difficult it is. All of that is true. This is not a good time for the United States, no matter how much MAGA tries to spin it. But at the same time, if we, the people who live in this country, and I'm sure you've heard this, right? My parents immigrated to this country. They chose America. And when you choose to come to live in America, you carry with it a certain responsibility and a certain burden that you don't walk away from it when things get tough or things get bad.

1:16:21Jami Lynn:And I do think that this is a moment of tremendous challenge in this country. I think it's very difficult for a lot of people, certainly with my background, who have one foot still in the Middle East and one foot here in the United States, knowing that your government has contributed to the killing of your friends and to your relatives and to people overseas, whether it's in Iraq or in Gaza or elsewhere. It's difficult to reconcile that. And it's a constant state of tension that many of us find. But if you turn your back on it, if you walk away from it, if you abandon that fight, then you are conceding the entire ground to the people who want to continue with this evil and barbaric foreign policy and the problems that they're doing here domestically.

1:17:03Jami Lynn:it. So the way that I look at it is, yes, this is a difficult time, a challenging time. But if you don't stay and fight in the spaces that you have in this country to try to make it better for our kids, future generation, then you're betraying the very ideals and values of what this country represents.

1:17:19Raquel D'Apice:I completely agree. Thank you so much for coming on our podcast. Good luck with the group chats and the group. They are only going to go get worse from here. I recommend drawing boundaries early.

1:17:33Jami Lynn:I'm trying to get out of the WhatsApp group, but when I leave the WhatsApp group, it says Ayman has left the group.

1:17:37Ayman Mohyeldin:No, but you need to set that precedent. You need to set that precedent. Like when they start going on, oh, well, do you want to get coffee? And what do you like in your coffee? Oh, I like mine with sugar. You just need to put left the group chat. Maybe it'll instill some self-reflection.

1:17:51Jami Lynn:Maybe. I'll try that. I'll try that.

1:17:53Raquel D'Apice:All right.

1:17:54Ayman Mohyeldin:Thanks again for coming on.

1:17:56Raquel D'Apice:Okay. Bye. I guess he's really smart. He's really smart. He's so engaging and obviously adorable looking. Let me ask you this. But you guys, before we started filming, Pumps had said, I said, I'd like our guest today. This is why Kylie's setting up the cameras. Because we were on his show on MSNBC. And then I said, yeah, he's really smart. And Pumps says, he speaks a lot of languages too, which you know I find really sexy. So as he came on, I could tell. I was like, oh, yeah. And I'm noticing a pattern here. Hassan Piker and then Eamon and I think what we have here is Pumps has a type and it is maybe you know 10 15 years younger you know I couldn't pull the trigger on 10 or 15 years younger why not because that's okay first of all he's married no no no I know but I'm just saying

1:18:50Ayman Mohyeldin:like I I just I have this weird thing about my skin because I feel my daughter's skin and her skin you know she's young it's like perfect and i just think a younger person touching my skin like in a sexual way it would just be a complete creep out vibe so i just can't do younger so i know that's fucked up but that's just my own issue but you could marry your ex-husband well i was all right that's all we have for today pumps tell them we will see you next tuesday and thursday

1:19:26Raquel D'Apice:I'll tell you what I've had it with.

1:19:27Ayman Mohyeldin:Let's hear it. I've had it with that.

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1:19:57Raquel D'Apice:Please go rate, subscribe, and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps. Pumps. What does an eagle say?

1:20:07Ayman Mohyeldin:Caw-caw.

1:20:08Raquel D'Apice:A little bit more enthusiasm.

1:20:10Ayman Mohyeldin:Caw-caw.

1:20:11Raquel D'Apice:That's it. That's, that's. Caw-caw. That's the patriotism that this country needs right there.

1:20:22Thank you.