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30:50And meanwhile, guess who has health care? Israel and Argentina, and your ass doesn't. And the person who is starting to make this argument right now is Marjorie Taylor Greene. And Marjorie Taylor Greene is a very dangerous, anti-Semite, real full-blown Jew hater. This is not a person that cares about human rights. She cherry picks. But in the vacuum that democratic leadership is leaving open by not providing from the top, trickle-down leadership, moral clarity from the top, the two top guys all the way down through the party. We're off the Israel tit. Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal. We're not funding genocide.

31:31Our party is leaving a vacuum for grifters like Marjorie Taylor Greene to grandstand and walk in. And I'm very worried about this come the midterms. Yeah. Let's talk. This is such an important issue, obviously an enormous life and death, war and peace issue. So I want to get to the Marjorie Taylor Greene point, but we'll start out with my position and the work that we've done on the issue because we have to stop funding the genocide in Gaza. And it is unthinkable that an administration, Democratic or Republican, would continue to fund it in my view. That's my view. But now we have actually a growing segment of the House Democrats that are starting to take the position that we are going to, we got to stop sending bombs to Netanyahu's government.

32:20It's in so many ways too late, but just a couple of weeks ago, I'm chairman of the progressive caucus, which is about half of the Democrats on the House side. It was the first time that any caucus has taken a position on this issue of we got to stop sending bombs and aid to Netanyahu's government. We took a position as about half of the House Democrats saying we're done with this. That is an important step. It's too late in so many ways. But I think it's important for the folks watching at home that feel like they've been advocating and calling their members and talking about it and posting about it.

32:58They feel like nothing has changed. I promise you, I want to tell you there is something changing in the Democratic Party because we've been, I think, on the wrong side of this issue for a very long time. There is something that is happening where you have half the Democratic senators and basically the caucus that represents half of the House in a different place than we've been before. And I just want people, I know we feel so hopeless and helpless sometimes, to know that shift is happening. Now to Congresswoman Green, I think you do point out that we cannot let the MAGA right start taking this pro-peace mantle when the Democratic Party should be the anti-war party.

33:38And you might ask me, hey, Greg, why have I seen in the news so much about Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about not funding the Netanyahu government? And most folks watching probably haven't seen anything in the news of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which is literally almost 100 times people more than Marjorie Taylor Greene taking this position. And in some ways, it's because it's so shocking to people to have Marjorie Taylor Greene saying something that while policy-wise taking these bombs is right, she's coming at it from stoking up the anti-Semitic part of who she is, right? But that doesn't mean – and that's why that's got to be – her outlook on this and where she's coming from is obviously disturbing, disgusting and should be rejected.

34:21But at the same time, we've got to be able to be bold and say we shouldn't have sent those bombs and we should stop sending them. And so that's what we are working on is to transform our party from the party that I think just was too complicit, far too complicit in what has happened so far in Gaza. I completely agree. And I just know from living in a red state, and you do too, that you have people that are independents, maybe Republican-like, maybe voted for Trump one out of three, two out of three times, something like that. and maybe are conservative Democrats. And this type of messaging for people who don't follow the news cycle like we do can be heard in a vacuum and assholes have moments of clarity.

35:12And in a soundbite that is 60 seconds long where she says something like, we're paying, Benjamin Netanyahu is paying TikTok influencers$7 ,000 a post. And these people need to register as foreign agents. And she's saying this. If somebody just hears that out there, I feel like there's this, these grifters are going to start taking the mantle on this. And it leads me to how concerned I am right now in the throes of this shutdown that the Democratic leadership is completely divorced from reality as to where the base is and where the American public is. You know, what's interesting about doing podcasting is, you know, 10 years ago, you'd watch MSNBC or CNN.

36:02Nobody had a comment section and there wasn't a community. Nobody really watches cable news anymore. And you put your podcasts on YouTube and on other platforms and you build communities and you see feedback and there are threads and chats and blah, blah, blah. So you have a bigger pulse on what's penetrating and what's not. And what's happening in the beltway and what's happening with the Democratic base could not be further apart. And so with this progressive caucus of yours, which I'm 100 percent love that, love it. What is there? Do you just have to bend over and Hakeem's the boss and that's just the end of the story or because I feel like right now, like we need to just go big or go home because I just I'm not real happy with him.

36:50I think his leadership is just awful. Well, look, I want to talk about this. I personally am a supporter of Hakeem's while recognizing that the job of Progressive Caucus chair and of the Progressive Caucus is to push for a bolder and bigger message. while understanding that we're a part of a big tent party. And like you pointed out, I have more conservative Democratic voters as well. And we are trying to convince a lot of more conservative independents and folks that think differently than me of being part of our party because we need a majority to win. In fact, we need more than a majority to win given the gerrymandering that they have done and all the voter suppression they've done.

37:34But here's, I think, the answer to your question right now. There has been actually a divide that is, I think, during the Trump administration that is bigger than progressive versus centrist. And that is, are you a fighter or are you a folder? Yes. That is actually what people, when I go talk to people out in the streets, they're less like, oh, are you here on the political spectrum or there? It's more, hey, I see Bernie and AOC going out there and talking to tens of thousands of people. And then I see certain parts of the Democratic Party that are just going to dinners and fundraisers. And I want more of the go and stand up and fight.

38:12And we saw that difference in March, where we had government funding come up. And I think because we were able to unite House Democrats and because I think Hakeem recognizes that we need to be more in a fight moment, he was willing. And we all went and voted no on Trump's horrible budget. And it was actually Chuck Schumer in the Senate that led that to get passed. Your question is, is it our job to just roll over and give into that? No. And I was one of the folks that critiqued my own party before and after Leader Schumer made that decision. And I think because people pushed and pushed back and said they're unhappy with that kind of leadership, that now we have actually the senators largely holding tight and being willing to vote no.

38:58And now I think we need to show from millions of people across the country that we are willing to mobilize and say we should not just rubber stamp Trump's budget. We can actually make demands. We actually have voices we've actually got to say. And I feel very confident going to the mat every single day saying we have a plan for keeping the government open. And it involves everybody getting their freaking health care. and making sure that every billionaire gets a tax cut. And I'm happy to live with my plan and argue for it every day of the week. And I don't think we have anything to apologize for.

39:35And I think what I'm hearing from you and I've heard from so many people is there's a feeling that the Democrats always feel like we're a little apologetic for something. And we don't have to apologize for this position. No, and they're saying, oh, it's the Democrats' fault. Anybody that just has a Google can figure out Republicans control the House, Senate, and the White House. Okay, I have the question kind of changing gears. Of course, I want to get into the deep, dark bottom of Doge and all that. But more importantly, so you have all this gerrymandering that Texas is doing. I read this article that said Texas constituents, they believe there might be a backlash to this gerrymandering and that they think that there There will be more Democrats that win because of Trump's policies and, you know, blah, blah, blah, because he's fucking fascist and he shut down the government, but he's able to fund his$200 million ballroom.

40:34So do you have that feeling on the ground? Have you seen those reports? Do you think there's any hope for Texas? There is a big hope for Texas, but I also want to keep it real with folks watching, right? Because we can't just go out there and promise everybody everything, every election cycle, and then have this huge disappointment. We've got to build and build and build. So Texas already has one of the most gerrymandered and illegal maps in America right now. And they said, let's take that up to 11. Let's turn it up and make it even more gerrymandered and eliminate five Democratic seats. seats.

41:15They moved 10 million Texans to new districts. Over 75 % of that is people of color that they moved around. So it's clearly a racial gerrymander, which is illegal. And I hope that we do everything we can to block it entirely in court, and then they don't get any of their five seats. If they do pass the map and get it through the court system, and we know how messed up the Supreme Court is, then I think our job is to make sure that there's no way in hell they get five or four of those. Okay. I of course want to take it right back to Hakeem right where we left, because this is a huge issue. And you talked about centrists and progressives, and I agree with you that we have to be a big tent party and we have to have all of those.

42:03So when I see Hakeem, who is a centrist. And I understand, I used to be a centrist. I understand this. And I understand that for some people that are ethnocentric Americans that don't really know what's going on in the Middle East, there might be a gay person that lives in Texas or Oklahoma, and they see a candidate like Hakeem or Kamala Harris or Joe Biden as the person that's not going to deny their rights. And there are single issue voters on that. And I think we cannot silence centrist voices because I understand it being from a red state. However, it feels like Hakeem is silencing the progressive party when the Democratic primary happened in New York, and he will not endorse Zoran Mamdani.

42:48And at this point, I think it's harmful for him to even do it, but it pisses me off. That really pissed me off. The second thing that pisses me off about Hakeem, because if I'm going to be a progressive that accepts centrist, then he needs to be a centrist that listens to the voters of his own fucking state. But another thing that pissed me off about Hakeem is this vote for a day to honor Charlie Kirk. And I cannot understand. Did you vote for that? I didn't vote for that. Good. Okay. I cannot understand why we're still playing patty cake with these people. Charlie Kirk. I saw the shooting, unfortunately.

43:24I hate guns. I hate gun violence. I don't want anybody to be shot. Nobody. I'm against the death penalty. That's how much I am against all of this. But to then go and honor a person that is an unrepentant, racist, misogynist, homophobe, total just piece of shit, all of the stuff that he said on college campuses. I cannot understand why this is the resistance to this, why we're still playing patty cake with fascists. And then I also don't understand how black man votes to honor an unrepentant racist. So as you can see, and I know your hands are kind of tied on answering this, but I'm putting this out there because we have to move our party.

44:10You know, they moved Trump. Trump moved his base all the way to all this crazy shit starting from 2016. We've got to start moving them. And I'm just telling you, Congressman, this Hakeem thing is it is it's a real problem across the country right now in the base because we don't see a fighter. We see a folder and the folder is in this Charlie Kirk thing. I mean, do you think if she or I were shot that the Republicans would vote to honor us? Fuck no, because we play two different games. We play two completely different games. The Democrats are still playing integrity politics and kanks and his army of sycophants are saying fuck you motherfuckers even trump said the other day i'm surprised they're not fighting so hard all right let me i know you said my hands are a little tied and of course i'm i can be a polite texan that has to represent uh my hundred members but let me untie them a little bit here and give you as someone that did not vote for the charlie kirk resolution as someone that doesn't take a pack money and, you know, had voted every single time to not fund the genocide in Gaza.

45:22Let me give you, as somebody that was a labor organizer, so I, you know, I've had my differences in some of those positions. Let me give you the reason that I am both pro-Hakim, but still pushing a more progressive vision for our entire caucus. It's a big sell. It's a big sell, Congressman. And it's not even to convince you. I know. But, you know, just to give you like, you know, you're here with me in my office. Let me give you my honest take. I want to hear it. I think that our job every day, you know, it's horrific that anybody gets shot and killed. We all agree on that. There's not a freaking Democrat that I have met in the world, much less in Congress, that thinks, of course, it's terrible that Mr.

46:09Kirk got killed, just like it's horrific that a police officer would get killed after January 6th or horrific that the Speaker Emerita of the Minnesota House was shot and killed. Everybody says, every Democrat has said that that is horrible. Now, of course, the number one insider of political violence that I know of in this country sits in the White House, right? And the Democrats know that too. We know all of that. But what Republican members of the House really wanted to do because when we've honored other people that have been killed, it just goes on consent. It just flies through. But what Republican members of the House really wanted was for all of us to be having this conversation that you just brought up with you and me.

46:53They want us. They want the news cycle to get stretched out about because they put intentionally on the floor something that said, whereas Charlie Kirk engaged in good faith dialogue, which I did not, but then be it resolved that no one, regardless of race, gender, or creed, or who they are, should be shot and killed, and political violence is bad. Well, we can agree with the second part. You can know that the first part isn't true, and the question is, what do you do with that? The answer, in my view, is to be like, we should make our own statement clear, move on, make it clear political violence is bad, and go back to talking about how these guys are taking your health care, giving your money to billionaires, sending in masked agents whose budget is larger than most militaries to rip apart families, deport U.S.

47:44citizen children, that they're ripping up the fabric of the Constitution every single day. That's the ground that we should be fighting on. And so I think that on that Charlie Kirk Resolution Day, the Democrats voted all sorts of different ways. and of course that was the Republican plan to create a moment where they could have us talking about that as much as they could. I'm going to step in because I think Hakeem's vote gave them exactly what they wanted. Him participating in it means that we're still talking about it. Had Hakeem been a leader and said, you guys are exploiting this man's death.

48:21We will have no part of it. We will not as a black man. I am not voting to honor a racist. We will proceed with a bill condoning gun violence and we'll name it the Charlie Kirk bill. And we will try to, you know, ban guns from being on college campuses. That would have been a real boss bitch move. But the fact that Hakeem is playing patty cake with these racists and these racist apologists means we're talking about it today, which means Hakeem as the person that kept us alive because he should have whipped the party into shape on this. We have a fucking fat ass fascist nut job running in the country that just went and lectured who was, I mean, who is a draft dodger who went and lectured the military.

49:08It is nuts. And I think Hakeem needs to whip him into shape and deep down, you know it, you know it, Congress. And I think I said my piece and you were a piece on it. That is, in my view, way more important, way more, you know, not a non-binding trap set by the Republicans, way more important. And I think the place that I make my judgment was the votes this last week on whether or not we were going to rubber stamp the budget that funds the enormous mass agent, unaccountable machine that took a 10 year old Texan out of my state who is recovering from brain cancer and has refused to bring her back.

49:52whether or not we were going to just let keep letting things chug along and say, yeah, you know, we're just going to be OK with you kicking 15 million people off their health care. That's honestly right. If I'm going to put my chips in, that's where my chips go in. And in my view, the House Democrats have done the right thing on that vote back in March and here in the last week. and I am, you know, I'm here only to defend myself. It is okay for you to have and everybody to have their opinions on any member of Congress, especially our leaders. We should be held accountable. We should have the tough conversations.

50:31But in my view, the really important moments and that really important moment here in the last week, we should be proud of it. And, but we can't just rest on our laurels. This vote in many ways is a vote of confidence. That wasn't a vote of confidence before, a vote of confidence this time in our base to go and have those no kings rallies, to go and talk to their friends, to go and let everybody know that what is on the line is our constitution. What is on the line is whether we have a king or a democracy. And what's on the line is the most basic of people's fundamental economic life, family life, which is the ability to go see a doctor, whether you follow politics or not.

51:13This is not some little political thing for people to see their healthcare costs go up$10 ,000 or$20 ,000 a year. Yeah. And that's the thing that separates us from MAGA is the people like you and Bernie Sanders and AOC, and even my boy that I like to browbeat, Hakeem, they're fighting for people that are actually MAGA voters who think that all of you guys are evil, terrorist leftists. And you're fighting for those people to have healthcare. And that's the fundamental difference between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. We vote for even people that disagree with us to have health care and not have to file bankruptcy because they have an illness.

51:59They they are voting to own the libs. I mean, it's crazy. But you know what? I will always stand up for them. But OK, I'm going to offer you a reprieve. And we're going to I'm sorry, but I just you know, this is this podcast. It's important. and i just want you to know i like you a whole lot you held up real well i like you really well too and i just want to say you don't have to feel bad second everything jennifer says and i also want to apply it to chuck schumer he's not just because you're in the house chuck schumer is not off the chuckles is not off the hook i've had it ladies have had it with chuckles and hakeem and we're going to keep putting pressure on them fight or fold period all right i'm gonna let you off the on all that.

52:39All right. I want to talk about, we didn't do this at the top. Let's just talk about, we'd emailed with you. Just what are your, what have you had it with? Oh my gosh. So we moved into the, I've had it portion. Yeah. Yeah. We're done browbeating your leader of the party. Yeah. You know, I wasn't quite at I've had it with, I've had it. I was okay. I would, I could have kept going for a little while. But one thing that I have had it with that people think is funny is like, I've had it with the board game Monopoly as somebody that is truly wanting to break up monopolies, wants to take on the big money.

53:18It's a board game that should be something that I love. And I love board games, but it's freaking boring. Like there's so much better stuff out there. And I just, when people are like, oh yeah, maybe we just kick it and somebody pulls on a board game that's i feel like that should be the last one on the shelf it's uh which one do you like what would you do are you you like clue clue is okay but i feel like there are so many better board games out nowadays i for people that are like checking something out like oh i should get a new board game it's playing a game the other day sushi go it's cute little pieces of sushi on cards and you don't have to wait for your turn everybody plays at the same time you know it's like easier to have conversation i like uh also like board games that are more sort of strategic you know my wife and i love this board game seven wonders which you should usually play with like four or five people and in the pandemic we literally the two of us sat down on our living room floor and played for like seven people at once and we felt like crazy people or I don't know, an easy party game.

54:23Check out like code names. Like there are good board games and Monopoly is just, I don't know. I feel like it should be a topic that I love and it's a board game that I've had it with. I like naughty board games, like Crimes Against Humanity and those memes where they're like, you know, this meme is and you have to put, I like kind of naughty ones, adult ones. I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna say, I hear, I love the grievance of having it with Monopoly. It's such a good one. But I have to say, as a child of the 80s, I love Monopoly. And I always volunteer to be the banker. I picked it because I figured one of the two of you guys would like it.

55:00I'm a great banker. My token is always the shoe. And I mean, I am excellent at it. I am ruthless. I am relentless. I crush. I am like an oligarch when it comes to Monopoly. Here's a Peter Thiel of Monopoly. I will leave the game set up for days to go in and make sure I bankrupt every motherfucker that I'm playing with, whether it be my children, my husband, nobody's safe. Okay. You get out the arch capitalist part of you. Yeah, totally. Totally. Okay. Let's talk about the fact that you have no social media. No social media on my phone. I've had it. I've had it with that. And this is so, of course, social media is so important.

55:45Of course, we put out a bunch of stuff on social media. But look, I'm not here to make folks feel bad for members of Congress. But from when I was on city council to being a member of Congress, there are way too many folks in elected office that could just spend all of their day reading their mentions and thinking that that's like real life and what real people think. and you're going to lead to bad choices. And so I sometimes like straight up, a lot of those tweets, a lot of that is me, but like, it sounds very old school, but like, I'll write it on a piece of paper and be like, this is what I think.

56:21And it gets posted on the computer, posted on a staffer's phone, but my phone right here, I don't have any of the apps. And so when some of those crazy bots are hating, here's the fun thing, like I have no idea. I think it is so smart. I tell pumps all the time that like, I have to look at social media in the morning because we prepare for our other podcast, I hip news and, you know, like bookmark stories, vet them, et cetera. And then after we do that, then I just, I try not to get on social media all day long because here's the day here's, here's the situation. Sometimes you just cannot be interested in customer feedback.

57:03And when I have these opinions where I want to fight for human rights, and you're actually signing legislation for equality, social justice, human rights, you know, wage equality, etc. You have to feel it with every molecule of DNA that you have, and you can't be compromised by that. And so customer feedback is really not something that you can participate in because you have to have moral clarity on those issues. And the same for me when I get up here and when pumps gets on here with our microphones and we're just, you know, going into the abyss, you know, fuck this, kanks, blah, you've heard it, you know, all the shit that we say, I have to really feel it in my bones.

57:45And if I piss people off, then just so be it. I mean, just so be it. If me standing up for trans kids that get bullied, If that pisses you off, fuck you. I don't give a shit what you think. And so I kind of think it's super healthy to get those apps off your phone. I really, I envy it. Well, as a wise man once said, if you ain't got haters, you ain't popping, you got to make sure that some people are mad and you don't have to, as a legislator, hear what the MAGA troll bots are saying all day. Go talk to a real person at the grocery store or on the sidewalk. And honestly, it's made my life better.

58:22And I remember I'm an elder millennial to the point where I remember when social media just was more fun. Yeah. The Internet wasn't always trying to sell you something or addict you to something. Like the other day, somebody just sent me a funny photograph that they saw on the Internet of the sky looking like the river in Austin. And I was like, I remember when that was the whole Internet was like, look at this interesting picture. Look at this funny video somebody made. And I know that still exists in some pockets, but they just pump you with stuff to either sell you things or make you feel angry or bad.

58:54And look, there's enough things to be angry about out in the world. And so I want to make sure that I'm focused on my job and then hear from real people. I like all of it. Okay. You know what? The podcast is getting better and better for you. Now we have a game. It's called Had It or Hit It. Right. Oh, my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Had it or hit it, Hakeem Jeffries. I'm just kidding.

59:27Had it with a question. Yeah, I like it. Okay, okay, okay. Had it or hit it, the Department of War. Oh, had it with that, with the whole renaming of stuff, right? Remember when they would just beat up Democrats for like wanting to rename a street named after like a Confederate secessionist and they made fun of us for that? Yes. And now like they're going and renaming the Gulf, you know, like and and and I think it makes them look tough to go rename the Department of Defense when they said that they're the anti-war party. I mean, it's just it is again, right. They are the real snowflakes. They are the real people obsessed with the words and the things.

1:00:12And so had it. Totally. This is what I think. OK, I think these MAGA men, I think a self-actualized man presents his masculinity in a way where they really aren't triggered or offended by anything. A gay person, a trans person, a boss bitch woman, a CEO woman. It wouldn't matter. But their masculinity presents in such a way that Pete Hegseth is up there saying, and I don't want any fat generals. I don't want any fat generals around the Pentagon. And then the leader of the entire military trots out the next day. And as Nancy Pelosi has pointed out multiple times, he's morbidly obese. Morbidly. It is.

1:00:54It's so strange. And I guess it goes back to the social media point. I'm like, are these guys just the anonymous incels that I used to see on my apps when I had them on my phone? Yes, I think they are. They're literally in charge. of the most lethal and biggest military force the world has ever known. And how did we get here? And how are we not getting out of this thing? This goes back to your idea. We've got to find a way out of this thing as soon as we can, because we can't deal with three years of Trump and then eight years of J.D. Vance or of Trump running again, 12 years of this. We can't have that.

1:01:33And this goes back to that already. This goes back to your idea, which we floated on here before, universal therapy. Because I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people, and you're from a red state, you get this. I think a lot of them have been indoctrinated into religion and not the good kind of religion, not the Jesus is a radical empath type religion, the hellfire, shame. You know, if you think about a woman in there, you know, people that are in charge right now, they're doing all the tongue talking in the White House. something if you've seen that clip, you wouldn't because you're not on social media.

1:02:06Trump's. I've seen some of the clips. They talk in tongues and then they go into the White House. So I think that we're going to need a lot of mass therapy to make our country healthy again. And I think that as soon as we defeat these fascists, I want you to start the bill and then I will plug it all over the Internet since you don't get on the Internet and we'll make sure it gets passed. Okay. Moving along. How did her hit it? RuPaul's Drag Race. Oh, my gosh. Hit it. I am a huge RuPaul's Drag Race fan. We have some amazing queens from Texas that have been killing it over there. Mistress Isabel Brooks from Houston, where I was born, Georges, who grew up in San Antonio, an area in Central Texas that I represent.

1:02:57And I think that something that's so special about it is the way that there's just kind of this message of you can be unique and you can be different. And not only does that mean that you should be treated like everybody else, but there's actually something really special about going through different kinds of adversity. I mean, I think the way that RuPaul has really focused in on each of the contestants stories, what they've been through, I feel like it, it's something that, yeah, some of the folks that maybe are at a different place on LGBT rights than the three of us, if they like hear the struggle that people have gone through to get to that place.

1:03:39And I just feel like it would, it would change them. And so, you know, it's a fun reality TV show when you can kind of veg out when it's been a hard week. But I think that they've been really brilliant about making sure that it also is kind of like a transformative message. I completely agree. I love that show. And I'm so jealous of how RuPaul is aging. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Had it or hit it. No problem we can all grow up that way. You know? Had it or hit it, Peter Thiel. The most had it of had it. Yes. Look, in the 1920s, there were these robber barons, right? They were the folks with all of this money.

1:04:17They controlled the railroads and the oil and the steel. And they thought that they could buy the government and basically use it to enrich themselves. And we, of course, talked about Elon Musk. I'm probably Elon Musk's biggest hater here in the house. Of course, we're starting to talk about Larry Ellison, who owns Oracle and is going to be running TikTok under Trump. But Peter Thiel is the guy. I know you all have been talking about him. I think people have not been talking enough about him as this robber baron from the 1920s that is now here who is trying to buy up the government, buy up our economy to rig all these things towards his vision of the world.

1:04:57And the point of a democracy is that people should have a say over their vision of the world and the rules, not just one or two or three guys. And so we got to be talking a lot more about peter thiel uh on the outside um and uh and then also on inside the government this guy vote um russell vote i spelled vaut but pronounced vote i think who runs the budget office it's like guys like this yeah um who we don't talk enough about who are the villains i think of the story and steven miller don't let that motherfucker do not let that motherfucker off the hook No way. So, yeah, I'd say those Stephen Miller and Russell Vogt, those are the, you know, when we feel like this Trump era, he has been so much more effective at doing horrible things.

1:05:47Right. He was horrible the first time, but he, you know, hired the Scaramucci's of the world. This time he's got folks like Vogt and Stephen Miller really trying to get to these horrific ends, these outcomes. And so I think we've got to have the villains of our story because Donald Trump said, you're getting screwed over in America. And he said, the villains of the story is an immigrant. The villain of the story is a woke coach of a sport. I mean, he's, it's populist, but he's punching down. We need a populism that punches up and we've got to fill in the blanks for people of if you're feeling bad, there is a villain, but it's not a Venezuelan mom that's jacking up your rent.

1:06:28It's a Wall Street hedge fund donor that's giving to Donald Trump. It isn't, you know, when you're not getting your phone call answered at the Social Security agency, it isn't a wokeism problem at Social Security. It's Russ Vogt and Stephen Miller that are taking apart the things that we build together as a country. And so we've got to be willing to name villains. And if that gets us uninvited from some dinners and, you know, the Democratic Party is a little little bit less fancy pants, like goods, go win the elections. I don't want to be at a dinner. I have some messaging that I want to try out on you regarding Peter Thiel and Elon Musk.

1:07:10And I believe that Democrats have got to start getting their hands a little dirty because they're playing one version of the game and we're playing the Merrick Garland version of the game. Right. And we saw what that got us. So here's my messaging regarding Rupert Murdoch Peter Thiel and Elon Musk and it's going to be kind of controversial for progressives but we have to I'm ready let's let's let's let's roll out on Fox News and you say I cannot believe that we're letting three foreign born people one born in South Africa one born in Germany and one born in Australia come over to our fucking country and tell us that we shouldn't have a democracy because that's what they're doing.

1:07:56They have bought the country, funded by taxpayer subsidies. And these motherfuckers have decided, because this will hit hard in where we're from, they've decided that they want to tear down America. So I think we can say the entire thing you just said, exactly what you just said. But I don't see where they were born, what it has to do with it. I don't either. I get it. I get what you're saying. But I think that we can say these guys just have a shitload of money and they think that they can take your jobs, replace it with computers, take your money, give it to themselves, give it to Trump. It's messed up.

1:08:36And the reason is because there are the Larry Ellsons of the world that were born here and are doing the exact same thing. I agree. And I don't want to. And I don't want to give gas. I don't want to give any gas or standing to the argument that they make about folks not born here on other things. And so I think that you are right, though, that we need to be willing to go after name and say that they are fucking over the country, those specific oligarchs. And that's something we haven't done before. We have not regularly done. When we lost this last election, I was in rooms with a lot of elected Democrats and Democratic consultants and leaders.

1:09:18And I said, we should talk about firing Elon Musk. Yes. I promise you, there are folks that said, remember, this is when Musk was like basically running the entire government. People said, ah, but he's too wealthy. He's too powerful. And people might get confused and think that we don't want them to make money. And I'm like, that is hogwash. That is bullshit. And we can get him fired. And we actually did. I mean, if you all remember, Trump said he was going to stay the entire time. Right. By pointing him out as a villain, I think a big Democratic win of this last year was getting him out. And now he's the least popular person in the United States and maybe globally.

1:09:53OK, one thing I want to put on your radar with the Peter Thiel thing, the dark enlightenment bullshit combined with Stephen Miller wants a hundred million Americans. That's it. So you've got dark enlightenment that only the smart people should have any ability to vote or run the country. And then you've got all these Republicans that want to kick people off health care by the tens of millions. In my head, and I know it's a conspiracy, is you want to get rid of poor people. You want to get rid of sick people so that then the elites can rule everything. That's just the conspiracy in my head. I just want to put it on your radar.

1:10:28I mean, the thing is, these guys are so creepy when you see them talk and hear them on TV. I mean, it is they are legitimate. I mean, when you go read what it is they believe, it is legitimately scary. It is way outside the norm, way outside of what folks that voted for Trump voted for. And what we have to be willing and able to go do is go talk to those voters. That's why I'm going to Republican controlled districts all over the country. And I ask people, put your hand down if you voted Democratic this last time, if you voted for the vice president to be president, put your hand down, put your hand up if you didn't.

1:11:06And ask me a question. Let's talk about what you think. And none of them want to have anything to do with those really creepy eugenic style ideas. They just think that Democrats have stopped paying attention to the baseline basic needs that they've got. and we've got to turn that around because I'm not going to be able to change Republican official, a congressperson behavior anytime soon. We've got to change our message. Okay, Congressman, I just can't even begin to tell you how much I like you. And what a great job I think that you're doing. And I want to have you back anytime on either this podcast, which is the longer format, or if you just need to come message something, we have three drops a day of IHIP news.

1:11:51I think you are the real deal. I think that you should keep going. I hope that they never run you out of government because we need good people. Like you make me want to be a better person. Oh, that's really sweet. And less impulsive than I am. You corrected my messaging where I just want to go for the juggler all the time. But I was nice. I was nice about it, right? So nice. Yes. So nice. I'm a big fan of yours. Yes, very much so. You're quickly like at the top of, you know what? We should start a little, I'm going to get a little bored here. Favorite. And I'll just like keep trying to work my way up.

1:12:23Yeah. Yeah. And then just tell Hakeem if he's seen Jennifer Welch from I've Had It wants to talk to him. Okay. I can promise you that. I'll mention it. He's been on it before. Yeah. Tell him we need to have a family meeting back. Well, I hope that wherever on your board, he'll add, he keeps working it. Here's the thing about Democrats. He would come back on. If you want to put him down the board, just don't tweet it because I won't know. All right. Thank you so much, Congressman. Good luck at work. And if you see Moses Mike Johnson, tell him we said to fuck off and that he's a hypocrite. I can promise to tell him the same thing.

1:13:04Y 'all take care. Bye. Nice to meet you. Bye. So he's darling. Why don't we have cool people like that from Congress in Oklahoma? I mean, he's from Texas. Well, because Oklahoma is just so my, our friends that we have here, I have some fabulous blue dots, But in general, you know, this is a dead shit state that we were ranked 14th in education. We had a Democratic governor. And they willfully vote to ruin anything good that we've ever had in this state. And it's a heartbreaker. But I do want to make a caveat. The mayor of Oklahoma City, Mayor David Holt, is a bright, shining light of inclusivity.

1:13:47and he's a rational, decent, non-MAGA style leader that has room for anybody in this city, no matter what you look like, no matter who you love, no matter what color your skin is. And so I would be remiss if I didn't highlight him, but all of the others, they can fuck off just like Moses might. Yeah, well, has Stephanie Bice ever gotten back to you about being on the podcast? Stephanie Bice sucks. Stephanie Bice is a, she's a listener. She's the Congresswoman of our district. This woman is an anti-woman, misogynist woman who, if her daughter got raped, you can rest assured Congresswoman Stephanie Bice would fly her daughter to a blue state like California or Colorado and make sure her daughter got the care that she needed.

1:14:39Meanwhile, Stephanie Bice will go and hold her Bible up all over the state and kiss Donald Trump's ass and drive education into the ground and only enrich billionaires that don't need to be enriched. She is morally bankrupt. She is one of the worst people on the planet. She did not return my email to come be on this podcast to show some accountability because she's a chicken chick coward. That's all we have for today. Pumps, tell them. We'll see you next Tuesday and Thursday.

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