MAGA's Little Shop of Horrors

7 Jul 2026 · 37 min · 11 chapters

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In short

The episode is a rant-heavy mix of political commentary, social gripes, and relationship/dating stories. Topics include: cluttered campaign signage after elections; Instagram “bait-and-switch” links that hide basic info; Fox News outrage over an Empire State Building spire climb; Stephen Miller as a racist and architect of harmful immigration policy; Gen Z “practice dates” and performative dating coaching; and etiquette complaints (guests wearing shoes indoors; Venmo requests on bachelorette vehicles).

Notable examples

Angela and Ivan, Russian nationalists from New Jersey, bypassed security to climb the Empire State Building spire and propose; Fox News and Matt Walsh allegedly amplified the incident.

Guests

no named guests appear; instead there are voice memos from Jen (Minneapolis shoe-filth rant) and Janine (Charleston crowdsourced bachelorettes/Venmo rant).

Key claims

Fox viewers have “lowest IQ”; practice dating is performative/robotic; public proposals can be manipulative; Venmo drink requests risk “roofies.”

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Chapters

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Pet Peeves: Campaign Signs

1:24 to 2:28

Discussion on the annoyance of campaign signs left up after elections.

“What I've had it with is, you know how people advertise on little signs they put on the side of the road.”

Instagram Bait and Switch

2:28 to 4:30

Frustration over Instagram posts that fail to reveal information directly.

“I'd be like go remove all the evidence you know I would just get it all down I don't want to see any of it but um yeah that that just goes to the way a lot of American cities are laid out they're all car centric.”

Responses to Listener Comments

4:30 to 6:44

The hosts read and react to listener comments about political frustrations.

“I just think it's criminal not to tell you what the city is after the buildup.”

Stephen Miller and Political Hypocrisy

6:44 to 9:20

A deep dive into Stephen Miller's actions and the hypocrisy in politics.

“And the thing about Stephen Miller that's just so abhorrent is he is just a pure racist.”

Stephen Miller and Political Hypocrisy

9:24 to 11:53

A deep dive into Stephen Miller's actions and the hypocrisy in politics.

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Empire State Building Climbers

12:10 to 14:00

A quirky story about a couple who climbed the Empire State Building.

“I've got some stories I would like to share with everybody.”

Empire State Building Proposal Controversy

14:00 to 19:36

Discussion about the reactions to a public marriage proposal on the Empire State Building.

“The one thing that Fox News, Donald Trump, and all of these billionaires all have in common, the whining, the complaining, the grievances, the world's against me.”

Am I the Asshole: Public Proposal Dilemma

19:36 to 21:51

Exploring a scenario where a woman feels pressured to accept a public marriage proposal.

“Speaking of proposals, let's pop up the next story from reddits.”

Gen Z's Practice Dates for Flirting Skills

21:51 to 27:55

Debate on Gen Z's trend of going on practice dates to improve dating skills.

“So I think not only is he an asshole, I think he's a manipulator.”

Cultural Norms Around Shoes

29:30 to 33:24

Discussing the cultural differences in shoe etiquette in homes.

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Grievances with Bachelorette Parties

33:26 to 36:54

Exploring the annoyance with crowdsourcing at bachelorette parties.

“What I have had it with are crowdsourcing bachelorettes.”
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1:09Jennifer:black treats brown treats and all lovers of social justice we love you and all of the triple trumpers can do what pumps fuck all welcome to america's top dei podcast um pumps what have you had it with? Okay. What I've had it with is, you know how people advertise on little signs they put on the side of the road. I mean, you may not have them in New York city, but when you're driving around Oklahoma city, like roofer divorce. Yes. Roof. Like I want to buy your house or supporting a political candidate. Okay. So the primary has been over for almost three weeks and every corner is stacked full of these signs.

1:51I still see on one corner, a Christmas light hanger sign. Here's my thing. Pick up your own shit. Pick up your trash. If you're a candidate and you don't win, or if you do win, pick up the sign afterward. If you're trying to buy my house, do something other than advertise on the street corner. I'm sick of it. After Christmas, pick up your lights advertising sign after the primary pick up your candidate if you put it there pick it up clean after your fuck clean up after your fucking self that's my motto yeah I would think um the Christmas

2:27Jennifer:light stuff I think those people wouldn't be super ambitious to pick it up but if I ran and I lost I'd be like go remove all the evidence you know I would just get it all down I don't want to see any of it but um yeah that that just goes to the way a lot of American cities are laid out they're all car centric. And then you have these cluttered corners, you know, that's an American thing. Like when you, if you're in Europe or other places, you're not going to be in a street and see all these ratchet riffraff, knickknack signs, people hustling or running for something. It's just not attractive. All right.

3:02Jennifer:Let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with scrolling on Instagram, right? And I think it's travel and leisure that has this or some other travel mics. I mean, I'm pretty sure travel and leisure is an offender. and it's like the top uh city to go to summer 2026 and so there's this beautiful picture and i scroll down to like the caption and it's like we have discovered the top it city for 2026 it has da da da and it gives a list and then it's like to find out what the city is go click the link in our profile and it's like that's not what instagram is about This is about brain rot, instant gratification.

3:43Jennifer:I need to know what the city is. I need to know everything. I do not, I'm not on Instagram because I want to go read an article. I'm on Instagram because I'm a lazy, instant gratification crackhead that is just looking for hits of something to procrastinate about something ahead of me that I'm putting off doing. That's what this moment is. Don't try to get me to go read an article. I do that in a different mindset. Like I appreciate that maybe they're trying to lure people off of Instagram. I think that's probably good, but it's, it's a bait and switch. Yeah. They post it and then they're luring you in.

4:21Jennifer:And I have completely had it with this. It happens to me all the time. And I, and I'm not going to click anymore, no matter how bad I want to know the information. I am. I just think it's criminal not to tell you what the city is after the buildup. Here's the thing. And I know this is going to shock no one who's a longtime listener or viewer. But when it says click on the link about the story, I can never figure out how to click on the link. Like I've tried in different articles where it says, OK, more information here. I can't figure that out. So I will never know what the city is. But I'm with you.

4:56I just I want it to all be I have ADHD nowadays. I want it just to be in a little blurb. This is what I want to know. And that's it. no pussyfooting around no article no link that i can't figure out yeah and that's just it's not

5:09Jennifer:the right space for that instagram is not where you are trying to learn things instagram is complete brain rot situation market me with some racket you're selling depending on if i've hit taken my melatonin at night or not i may or may not buy it and then the next day it arrives some shit that i don't need um but anyway that's what i've had it with welcome to i've had it i'm jennifer i'm angie um kylie what's going on with the podcast i've got a couple comments on spotify for you all right let's hear them this first one is from elijah and they say every time pumps retells the story of her shitting in the cup i have to go ahead and add another notch in my own fucking trauma egg

5:57that is good stuff right there yeah it's my trauma egg too it's bad okay and then bad sojourner writes steven miller is a cuck yeah he totally is he is and then jennifer writes people

6:10Jennifer:are dying so we can call shitler smoky eye peewee german etc pussies and cunts no one likes the pc police stop being titty babies and get on board dark woke bus beep beep bitches this is i mean this is exactly where the progressive party needs to be we cannot fight these people monitoring one another my whole ethos right now is if you're voting for a politician that takes money from any of the same donors that are funding fascism no vote primary the fuck out of them we have to fight this with everything in us. The clock is ticking. And Stephen Miller is indeed a cuck. And the thing about Stephen Miller that's just so abhorrent is he is just a pure racist.

6:56Jennifer:Like, I don't even know that he has financial ambition that would even come close to his desire to extract harm and have systemic and institutionalized harm on minority populations that have melanin in their skins, which is interesting because as we've pointed out multiple times, his wife doesn't look exactly Caucasian. So it's like really weird. And I don't know if she is or isn't, but it's, it's weird as shit. Like little Marco being, you know, a birthright citizen, but then he works for the administration that wants to do away with that. Well, you know, on the whole Steve, uh, Stephen Miller thing, he bases everything on appearances.

7:38And like you said, we don't know what background his wife is she says that she's white but she if you judge by Stephen Miller's book she's going to the detention center she's picked up by ice yeah the Kavanaugh rule of the Supreme Court the Kavanaugh rule pulled over yeah exactly I mean she if I'm a cop and she's running

8:01Jennifer:a red light and I'm on ice which would be fucking horrible but and then I see her and that's what you're like, hey, if you think there's a, you know, Hispanic person or person shouldn't be here breaking law, you get to pull them over just based on the way they look. Katie Miller's getting pulled over. And so it's a really weird thing. But see, I think a lot of these people, the people that they want to hurt are the people they fetishize. Like, it's the same thing with like, you know, people that are obsessed with drag queens and the people that are obsessed with trans people, the people that are obsessed with porn.

8:32Jennifer:They're the ones that are all watching and fetishizing all of the shits while Grindr's crashing all the time. So, but the thing about Stephen Miller that's so frightening is, I mean, he literally has, does it, all these other people, you know, for them, it's all about money. Lutnik, Dumb and Dumber, Trump, Melania, all, it's all about money. Kushner, all about money. But with Stephen Miller, it's all about like Hitler shit. It's all about like he loved the concentration camps that Alligator Alcatraz he wants. Now he's going fucking crazy on Fox News talking about like birthing tourism, which is not a thing, which is not a real thing.

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12:10Jennifer:All right. I've got some stories I would like to share with everybody. A couple climbed to the top of the Empire State Building last week. Pop up this video. So they climbed to the top of the Empire State Building and they wave a flag at the top of the Empire State Building. Their names are Angela and Ivan, Russian nationalists living in New Jersey who have been doing unauthorized skyscraper climbs around the world for years. The couple bypassed security at the Empire State Building and climbed to the top of the spire, reaching higher than 1 ,400 feet. They revealed a banner that read, When the power we love beats the love of power, the world knows peace.

12:49Jennifer:A quote widely attributed to legendary guitarist Jimi Hendrix. Well, okay, so this story, whatever, you hear about the, you know, people do kind of nutty stuff. It's not the way I'd want to get engaged and climb to the top of the Empire State Building and fly a flag around. but whatever on the list of all the stuff that i have to worry about this is just something like it's ambitious okay and then i move on then i move on to travel and leisure trying to dick me over not telling me what the point of their post is unless i click in but of course fox news sees this and they are in a stage five meltdown over this and it's because their pedophile president has dementia, is grifting, has its own big plane now, tearing down the government, dismantling the rule of law, dismantling democracy, dismantling the Voting Rights Act.

13:39Jennifer:The Republican Party are the biggest bunch of pussies. So yeah, if you want to PC police me in the comments, do it. But they are pussies. The Republicans are pussies. Here's Fox News melting down over the couple scaling the Empire State Building. specifically has an anti-climbing ordinance by the way you can't climb a building over 50 feet high that is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail plus a fine disorderly con oh for god's sake now great well they can consummate the marriage in jail no apparently they don't do it here you can visibly see her taking selfies of the ring i was just told so oh my god oh my god what a travesty america is falling apart this is sick they're gonna go to jail fuck off i mean seriously this is a misdemeanor nothing burger they'll pay their fine they'll take their lumps but you're having a stage five meltdown because you're a pussy and your pussies that defend the biggest whining, complaining titty baby on the planet.

14:48Jennifer:The one thing that Fox News, Donald Trump, and all of these billionaires all have in common, the whining, the complaining, the grievances, the world's against me. Fox News, if your life is such that you're triggered by that, the hysterics surrounding that is so ridiculous, but that's not all, Pumps. It goes on. Nick Sorter tweets the following. Pop this up. Update. One of the degenerates on top of the Empire State Building Spire just made a marriage proposal. Marriage proposal, for those of you listening, is in cap locks. To the other. Their dumbass stunt is putting first responders' lives in danger, not to mention those on the ground.

15:28Jennifer:All for some performative BS. BS locked them up. Interesting they care about this shit. They don't care about anybody. Anybody, the first responders, 9-11, first responders, January 6th, none of that shit. And then here's Matt Walsh. This guy's the biggest nut on the planet. Imagine risking your life climbing all the way to the top of the Empire State Building and getting arrested, all for the sake of conveying the most cliched, pointless, hallmark greeting card, slogan, message of all time. Imagine being Matt Walsh and waking up every single day and going to Twitter and embarrassing the shit out of yourself because you worship a man that wears a full face of orange makeup every single day that cannot speak in complete sentences, that has muffin top cankles, and is just overall a hammered piece of dog shit.

16:21Jennifer:And even some of the NYPD didn't care near as much as Fox did. Let's play this clip. All the hoopla going on over there. Two geniuses climbed to the top of the Empire State Building, the top of the spire. Oh, that's awesome. It's a little hot for that, isn't it? Just the beginning of this week. It's not some worker changing a light, is it? Nah, it's a male, female, dressed in black. They had some flag they were waving when they were up at the top. I love this. See, this is New York. It's like, big fucking deal. Nobody died. Nobody stole anything. We're going to have to go arrest these jack-offs and blah, blah.

17:00Jennifer:I mean, the first guy goes, oh, that's awesome. I know. Like he's like, that's a cool call to get. But Fox News, because they can't tell you what the government that they have propped up and all of their dipshit viewers that they propagandize. And I just want to say this. I want to go on the permanent record. I haven't brought up the permanent record in a long time. I now believe with everything in me that the people that still currently, currently watch Fox News are the lowest IQ individuals in America. I see clips of Fox News on my Instagram when I'm not battling with travel and leisure. And I see clips that somebody's clipped up.

17:42Jennifer:I feel IQ points dropping because they're so fucking stupid. These people are stupid. Just the histrionics over the Empire State thing on the national news. I mean, come on. I completely agree. And I'm thinking about the people in my family that watch Fox News. And I really, I mean, because when I've watched Fox News before, I do. I feel dumber. And you really do feel like you're living in an alternate universe because you have no idea what's going on. They're talking about, you know, trans athletes, Joe Biden, and now the Empire State Bill climbers when there's a war going on and all this other stuff.

18:22And I have to say there when I talk to them, are they dumber? I think they are.

18:30Jennifer:Yeah. See, this is the science. We'll catch up with this on this. And here's the thing, too. I just want everybody to know I was captivated by this Empire State Building climbers. I was so impressed. Like, I was like, that is fucking terrifying and amazing and cool. Have you seen how hot they are? I was just going to say, did you see her body? Yes. I mean, no wonder she can climb the Empire State Building. I was like, I love everything about this. I love to flag. I want Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld to climb up there. They would shit their pants. I mean, it would be diarrhea oozing down the Empire State Building, those two puss boys.

19:14I mean, can you believe Greg Gutfeld's breasts would get in the way. His big old titties, he wouldn't be able to take one step.

19:22Jennifer:Look at how hot they are. That's the couple that did it. They are gorgeous. Yeah, they're hot. And so the couple was arrested and charged with multiple felonies and misdemeanors, but they still had one of the coolest engagements ever, I think. All right, moving on. The next story. Speaking of proposals, let's pop up the next story from reddits. Am I the asshole? So am I the asshole for saying yes to my boyfriend's public proposal and then turning him down in private? So my 26 year old female. So the girl is a 26 year old female. The boyfriend is a 28 year old male and I have been dating for about three years.

20:00Jennifer:Things have been good, but I've been clear that I'm not ready for marriage yet. I've told him I need more time to feel comfortable with such a big step. Well, a few weeks ago, we went to a big party hosted by his family for his dad's 60th. I noticed that he was acting a little nervous, but didn't think much of it. Then during the event, he got everyone's attention. He got down on one knee and proposed to me in front of all of his friends and family. I was completely caught off guard and panicked. Now I've heard stories about how rejecting someone in public can humiliate them. And I really didn't want to do that to him, especially in front of everyone he cares about.

20:37Jennifer:So I said yes in the moment. Everyone cheered and he looked so happy. I felt horrible for misleading him, but I didn't know what else to do. After the party on the car ride home, I told him privately and explained that while I love him, I'm not ready to get married yet. And that I only said yes to avoid embarrassing him in front of everyone. I thought being honest in private was the best thing to do. He got really upset and said I humiliated him even more because now he has to go back and tell everyone that we're not actually engaged. He said I should have just said no at the party if that's how I felt.

21:21Jennifer:I feel terrible that I've hurt him and put him in this position, but I also feel like he put me on the spot in front of everyone without considering my feelings. we've yet to tell his family or anyone and they keep calling and texting to give their congrats which is upsetting him even more and i'm seeing videos in his friend his friends posted online of him getting on the knee so it's pretty public now so reddit am i the asshole should i have just said no in public or was i right to spare him the embarrassment in the moment pumps here's the thing i would have said yes in the moment and told him in private because the i mean first of all the panic i would have been so panicked but i kind of feel like this is on him if she told him he she didn't want to get married and he i feel like he put it in public so she kind of had to say yes so i don't think she's the asshole i i agree i don't think i don't think she's the asshole i think he's the asshole i think she was gracious and being put on the spot like that when you're going to ask somebody to marry you there has to have been pre-conversations yeah you have to have yes i think we're ready and you know the guy would say well i hope if i find the right time you'd be willing you you can't just bring that on i think he's the asshole i think she is a saint to have put up with this but i think she needs to run and cut bait because you alluded to, he proposed to her in a peer pressure kind of way because he probably felt some trepidation from her regarding the relationship.

23:03Jennifer:So I think not only is he an asshole, I think he's a manipulator. And I think she's showing red flags. I think she needs to cut and run. No, I agree. And I don't think you can recover from this. If you tell everybody we're not engaged, I'm not ready to get married. He's publicly humiliated now that it's on Instagram. I mean, I think the relationship's done. Yeah. You think you can come back from that? No, it's over. It's completely over. All right. Here's the next story. Pop this up. Fake it till you make out. Gen Z New Yorkers are going on practice dates with people they don't even like. Put up the screen grab.

23:40Jennifer:The goal is simple. Sharpen flirting skills, build confidence, overcome dating anxiety, and learn how to navigate awkward conversations before someone they're genuinely excited about comes along. Instead of holding out for a dream match on Hinge, some singles are swiping right on people they wouldn't normally pursue and meeting up for low stakes drinks, coffee dates, or casual walks around the city. Dating coach Serena Kerrigan shared why practice dates are important to finding the right person. Play the clip. You should be going on dates even with guys you're not super attracted to. And here's why.

24:21Let's say you go on a date with a guy and you feel like you're the more attractive one. What are you going to do? You are going to show up like super fucking confident, fatty energy, just radiating fucking vibes. You're going to be so authentically 100 % yourself. You're not going to edit yourself because you are not trying to appeal to them. Then what you're going to do is leave that date and copy and paste that exact energy to a date with a guy that you actually you might be really attracted to. I kind of agree. I don't think it's bad. Any practice, practice makes perfect. And I do think there's freedom in not liking the person, even though that backfired in my case.

24:56But I do feel like not liking the person makes it easier to communicate. And so you get your practice. So I don't think this is a bad idea.

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25:05Jennifer:I think it's so sad. I think it's, to me, this whole story makes it so sad. Um, because the reason Gen Z doesn't have skills and they need to sharpen their conversational scare skills and navigate awkward situations is because all the communications they have with people are on Snapchat. Yeah. And back in the day, and I'm going to sound that we're not going to my day, but you know, we had to talk on the phone and have all of these interactions. And then what she said about you copy exactly what you did there. And then you put it there. that's just sounds so performative to me it just I like the practice dating part but then like to make a note to yourself oh my god I nailed it with the guy I didn't like so I need to act exactly like that with the guy that I really do like and it's just like there's such a authenticity is just gone and awkwardness there's something for me um something attractive about vulnerability or, you know, like when my sons have dated, I'm like, you know, you just be vulnerable.

26:12Jennifer:Like it's, it's vulnerability is something that to just say, Hey, I'm, I'm new to this whole dating thing and, you know, communicate as you go along, but trying to, Oh, I nailed it with this, you know, ugly guy. And now I'm going to take that nailed behavior. And then I'm going to transfer it to the hot guy. I don't know that I would ever advise my sons to date in that regard. I do agree about face-to-face interactions that this generation has lost, but I really disagree with what that influencer lady said about trying to take your behavior and make a note of it and a screenshot of it. This is exactly what I did.

26:52Jennifer:To me, that's not human. It's robotic. And the pushback against AI, there's something attractive about stumbling over words and being nervous. And those are the best stories later in life that, oh my God, when I first met Josh, I was so nervous and I stepped off, you know, those are the best experiences. All of that is looked back on so fondly. Yeah. And also I think when you're dating, like for me, first of all, you know, I haven't, it's been just a big fat minute since I've dated, but you kind of get nervous just because it's a new person and a new conversation. I don't know how you lock in something, but I also think, let's say you go to dinner with somebody that you really don't like, and you're just being yourself and you click, you never know who you're going to click with.

27:39You just never know. So ruling it out. So I say, go for it. And I'm like, you get off the internet. Have a, when this headline came out, I thought we were talking about AI. I thought people were, you know, this was a dating AI person story. So I'm glad to see it's people. Listener, I cannot tell you how much I wish I could go back in time and teach myself how to budget and manage my money properly while I was growing up so those tools would be available to me today. And that's something that's so important to teach your kids how to manage their money. So for all the parents out there with teenagers, we know you're already trying to keep a million different things under control.

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29:49Jennifer:All right, Kylie, let's do a voice memo. Okay, up first we've got Jen F. Hey, Jen and Pumps, the beautiful Kylie, Seth, and Ryan. Jen here reporting from Minneapolis, a.k.a. the land of 10 ,000 ice tragedies. what i've had it with is people that think it's perfectly normal to walk into somebody's house with their shoes on and proceed to march into any and all rooms they please up and down the stairs carpet and all i'm sorry were you born in a barn do you have a concept of where those fucking shoes have been dirt snow fucking public bathrooms airports stepping in dog poop who fucking knows where these shoes have been and all that shit is getting ground into my floors and carpets underneath the weight of your fat ass.

30:38Then when you ask them, hey, do you mind taking your shoes off? They look at you like you just asked them to cut off all their fucking hair or something. I've had it with these rude fuckers and their goddamn shoe filth.

30:52Jennifer:So this thing, Roman and I, my son and I were just talking about this because in Oklahoma, everybody wears their shoes in everybody's house. It is not a part of the culture that you take your shoes off at all. in New York, everybody takes their shoes off when you go into anybody's apartment because the streets are filthy dogs pee. And I mean, my dogs piss right in the street. And so I'm not a big germaphobe at all. Like I don't have any sort of qualms. And oftentimes, like, I find myself trying to be responsible, like, okay, this is the New York way the streets are filthy. So I take my shoes off in the entry.

31:29Jennifer:And then other days, I forget. And then my feet, you know, are just all over the apartment. But it's a lot of it is kind of a cultural thing. When I was younger, I went to Japan and stayed there for three months. You take your shoes off everywhere. And it's a, it's a polite manner germ thing. And something else about Japan that I remember is so interesting. So I went with my friend, her name was Kazue, Kazue Okamoto. She lived in Yokohama and everybody, this was in the nineties, the mid nineties and everybody, it was winter. A lot of the Japanese people were wearing masks. And of course, this is, you know, decades before COVID.

32:05Jennifer:And I asked Kazooie, I'm like, why are they wearing masks? Like, why do all these people have unsurgical masks? I'd never seen that in America, unless it was like a doctor in a surgery room. And she's like, oh, Jen-san, we Japanese are very polite. And if we have a cold, we wear a COVID, not a COVID mask, we wear a mask. And I was like, oh, that's so polite. And then fast forward to America, and you have everybody stage five melting down when there's a, you know, a virus that killed 1 million people in the United States. But I, I agree with the caller. Like if, if somebody, if those are somebody's house rules and you're a guest in their house, then you have to abide by them.

32:47Jennifer:You have to take your shoes off and you have to, you're a guest and whatever their rules are or whatever their rules are. I completely agree. And here's the thing, like when I go to Europe apartment in the beginning, like the first day, I'm really good about taking my shoes off. But then I just forget because like, it's cultural. I mean, in Oklahoma, you drive everywhere, you pull up, you walk in, you just don't. I've never thought about taking my shoes off. So but if somebody asked me to take my shoes off, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I need to do that. It's such a good idea. But I don't ask people to do it to me in my house.

33:22Jennifer:All right, Kylie, let's do one more voice memo. Okay. Up next, we've got Janine. Hey friends, this is Janine. What I have had it with are crowdsourcing bachelorettes. So let me explain. I am a blue dot in the red state of South Carolina. I live in Charleston and thanks to Condé Nast and all of these other travel entities, everyone and their fucking mother wants to come visit or have their fucking bachelorette here and so as a happily married bitter hag i try to do my part when i see these gaggles of girls i'm like don't do it don't do it but in the last week i haven't seen the gaggle i've seen the vehicle and on the vehicle is the bachelorette's venmo and it says something stupid like treat the bachelorette to a drink or some shit like that and like go fuck yourself hard I completely agree with her on that.

34:25Jennifer:People that have their Venmo, like, here's the deal. Don't ask strangers to buy you a drink. Just don't. Just don't do it. And then there's a whole nother thing. And I'm not a big worry word about this stuff, but like this is just an invitation to get roofied. I mean, you know, it's just a bachelor. This goes back to one of our long-term grievances, bachelor parties, bachelor particular bachelorette parties, weddings, showers, gender reveal parties are performative over the top. Instagram is exacerbated, made them a million times worse. A bunch of drunk people doing a bunch of drunk shit. The only way that's fun is you have to know those people and be equally as drunk as they are.

35:11Jennifer:It's, it's, there's nothing fun about being sober around a bunch of drunk people. It's miserable. Here's the thing. I remember like, again, get off my lawn back in the day. My bachelorette party was in Oklahoma city where I lived and it was at a hotel room. That was the big night out. But now like the money that, and when you get married during your early twenties, so you don't have a lot of money. Here's the thing. I would, I am 100 million percent against the Venmo on the side of the car, all that. But I will say I got a couple graduation announcements that just had the Venmo of the person like a card.

35:48I agree with you. I didn't have to write a check. I immediately picked up my phone. I Venmo checkmark. It's done. You're right.

35:57Jennifer:Delighted. You're a hundred percent right about that. I need to retract. That is such a gift to be able to go this person wants this wants money i venmo them it's done that i agree with you and honestly for wedding gifts i i would be i would be prompt i'd be the first person that paid it or if it's like our in lieu of wedding gifts we want you know venmo for our uh honeymoon because you get all this shit like who actually like eats off their wedding china never i've never never eaten off my wedding chiner. I have four cabinets full of like crystal and all this. And my, Emily's always like, you need to put this on crooks.

36:37I've never used it. Not one time, not once.

36:39Jennifer:What a waste. I mean, you know what I mean? It's just all this shit. I think the money for people to buy a house or have a savings account or pay rent or go on a little trip, maybe buy healthcare. I agree with you. I've gone full circle. The bachelorette that wants somebody to buy her a roofie Venmo drink, we oppose. Yeah. If you're having a birthday party, a graduation, and you want gifts, it's a gifted thing. Put your Venmo on there and then you can go buy what you want. All right. That's all we have, you guys. We have to cut it a little bit short today because we are filming this over the 4th of July weekend.

37:16Jennifer:We hope all of you had a safe and fun 4th of July and we will see you guys soon.

37:24I'll tell you what I've had it with.

37:26Jennifer:Let's hear it. I'm at it with that.

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