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I've Had It Podcast Episode Summary: Meet Me in Mamdanistan
Podcast Information
- Title: I've Had It
- Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
- Guests: Hasan Piker & Austin Show
- Episode Title: Meet Me in Mamdanistan
- Episode Description: Hasan, Austin, and Jen explore the blueanon conspiracy theories and discuss various grievances.
Key Themes and Discussions
Introduction and Tone
- The episode opens with a humorous and chaotic introduction where the hosts playfully jab at each other and engage in banter, setting a light-hearted yet critical tone for the episode.
- The hosts express their frustrations with various social and political issues, emphasizing accountability and societal behavior.
Grievances Shared
- Hasan Piker's Grievance:
- Lack of Accountability: Piker expresses frustration with the perceived lack of accountability among elites and perpetrators of crimes, advocating for punishment and re-education.
- Ineffectiveness of Corporate Democrats: He critiques the corporate Democrats for promising change while failing to hold criminals accountable.
- Angie “Pumps” Sullivan's Grievance:
- Road Ragers: Sullivan shares her disdain for aggressive drivers who endanger others on the road, highlighting a common societal irritant.
- Austin Show's Grievance:
- Tardiness: He laments the issue of people being late, reflecting on how it affects others and contributes to societal dysfunction.
Political Commentary
- The discussion shifts to broader political issues, with Piker and the hosts critiquing the systemic failures of the political establishment, particularly focusing on:
- Corporate Influence: The hosts discuss how corporate money corrupts politics, affecting the accountability of elected officials.
- Trump and Conspiracies: The episode touches on conspiracy theories involving Trump, discussing how they relate to accountability and media representation.
Humor and Banter
- Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a humorous tone, using sarcasm and playful insults. This comedic approach engages listeners while addressing serious topics.
- The hosts share personal anecdotes about road rage, tardiness, and their experiences at protests, adding a relatable element to the discussion.
Clientele and Social Commentary
- The hosts delve into conspiracy theories surrounding elements of the political elite and their connections to various scandals, including discussions around Epstein and the perceived normalization of problematic behaviors.
- They express skepticism towards mainstream media and the narratives surrounding various political figures, especially those involved in the Epstein scandal.
Closing Thoughts and Future Conversations
- The episode concludes with the hosts encouraging listeners to reflect on the discussed grievances and to consider the role of accountability in politics. They hint at future episodes delving deeper into political narratives and personal grievances.
Key Takeaways
- Accountability and Responsibility: There is a strong call for accountability in both personal and political domains.
- Comedic Relief: The use of humor serves to lighten heavy topics while still maintaining focus on serious grievances.
- Critique of Political Structures: The hosts critique the political establishment and its failures, emphasizing the need for radical change and genuine representation.
- Engagement with the Audience: The episode encourages listener interaction through grievances, highlighting collective frustrations.
Conclusion This episode of "I've Had It" blends humor with critical political discourse, making it both entertaining and thought-provoking as the hosts navigate their personal and societal grievances. Through engaging discussions and relatable anecdotes, they provide insights into contemporary political frustrations while keeping the conversation light-hearted and accessible.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Accountability
0:45 to 1:40
Hassan expresses frustration with the lack of accountability from authorities and calls for punishment for crimes.
“See, he didn't fucking even know they were in town.”
Critique of Corporate Democrats
1:40 to 3:03
The hosts critique corporate Democrats and their ineffective policies regarding law enforcement.
“But unfortunately, if you do a crime at the behest of, you know, this pedophile president, then you're fine.”
Road Rage Rants
3:03 to 4:26
Austin shares his frustrations about road ragers and the dangers they pose.
“But then if somebody turns in front of me, I'm like, fuck you, mind your own business.”
Drunk vs. High Driving Debate
4:26 to 6:38
A humorous discussion on the risks and perceptions of drunk driving versus driving under the influence of marijuana.
“Hassan Piker comes to New York and says people to drive drunk.”
Conspiracy Theories and Historical Events
6:38 to 9:00
The hosts dive into various conspiracy theories surrounding significant events like 9/11 and the Las Vegas shooting.
“No, I think that the American intelligence, I think the international intelligence community had a lot more pre-warning about what potentially could have happened.”
Political Amnesia and Accountability
9:00 to 11:40
A conversation about the consequences of political amnesia and the need for accountability in governance.
“I mean, Rahm Emanuel, I feel like, has he been on the show?”
Zoran's Governance and Public Perception
11:40 to 14:03
Discussion on Zoran's governance in New York and the contrast with other political figures.
“We actually, we were supposed to be here at 10.03.”
Biden’s Infrastructure Act and Political Hypocrisy
14:03 to 14:42
Discusses the contradictions of politicians taking credit for initiatives they opposed.
“And then all of these horrific Bible thumper, red state, horrible politicians are then like, look at all the jobs I brought to my state.”
Biden's Accomplishments and Leadership Challenges
14:42 to 15:19
Explores Biden's achievements and critique on his communication strategies.
Conspiracy Theories Surrounding Biden
15:19 to 16:04
Engages in a lighthearted discussion about bizarre theories regarding Biden's identity.
“Take him off the transportation secretary.”
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Debating Trump's Assassination
20:04 to 23:04
Participants discuss their beliefs regarding the authenticity of Trump's assassination and related theories.
“Okay, what do we think about Trump's assassination?”
Cultural Observations on Gender and Social Dynamics
23:04 to 24:29
Explores social dynamics and experiences in gay bars versus straight environments.
“That's another, you know, foreign intervention.”
Listener Interactions and Grievances
24:29 to 28:00
Engages with a listener about a popular public figure and community reactions.
“And so I hang out with gay men all the time.”
Discussing Political Reactions
28:00 to 28:10
Exploring the impact of public perception on political figures.
“Israel outlets are going to be calling me a terrorist.”
Caller Insights on Lindsey Graham
28:10 to 28:50
A caller reveals shocking information about Lindsey Graham's nickname and behavior.
“As my mother always told me, darling, if you've got it, flaunt it.”
The Kink of Public Figures
28:50 to 30:00
Delving into the kink culture surrounding political figures and their hidden lives.
Public Behavior and Hidden Secrets
30:00 to 31:00
Discussing the behaviors of public figures and the secrets they harbor.
“And I just thought you should know that.”
Epstein Connections and Media Accountability
31:00 to 32:20
Examining the connections between Epstein and political figures, highlighting media complicity.
“And I thought they must have so much footage of you doing gay stuff.”
The Role of Journalism Amid Scandals
32:20 to 33:40
Discussing the responsibilities of journalists when dealing with high-profile scandals.
“It's because they know that there's no accountability coming.”
Political Connections: Israel and Russia
33:40 to 35:00
Analyzing the complex relationships between political figures, Israel, and Russia.
“That's the other side of the story as well.”
Understanding Epstein's Networks
35:00 to 36:40
Exploring the networks Jeffrey Epstein was involved with and their global implications.
“Israel is their entry point into the global marketplace when Russia gets sanctioned.”
Deflecting Narratives in Media
36:40 to 38:00
Examining how certain narratives are constructed in media to deflect from deeper issues.
“And also on top of that, it kind of doesn't make any sense.”
Clintons and Public Testimonies
38:00 to 39:20
Exploring the implications of the Clintons' willingness to testify publicly.
“the house i mean i don't think they're talking about you know surveillance technology and did Because you know there were no drag queens and no trans people.”
Political Cover and Scandal Management
39:20 to 40:50
Discussing how political figures manage scandals and public perception.
“I wish him well after they had their big breakup.”
Democratic Strategy and Epstein Links
40:50 to 42:00
Analyzing the Democratic Party's strategies in light of connections to Epstein.
“He does not have sex to fulfill a sexual desire.”
Political Insights on Power Dynamics
42:00 to 43:20
Explore the intersection of political power and personal relationships in the context of sexual assault allegations.
“That's why he's doing all these sexual assaults.”
Progressive Upset in New Jersey Elections
43:20 to 45:00
Discuss the recent primary elections in New Jersey and the rise of progressive candidates against establishment Democrats.
“The state has long been dominated by a throwback political culture, particularly on the Democratic side.”
Establishment vs. Progressive Politics
45:00 to 47:10
Analyze the struggle between establishment Democrats and the progressive wing within the party and its implications.
“And yet the establishment Democrats are pushing that aside every step of the way.”
The Corporate Influence on Politics
47:10 to 48:30
Investigate how corporate interests shape the agenda of both major political parties in the U.S.
“When I met him, he was all over the place.”
Public Sentiment and Political Moderation
48:30 to 50:00
Discuss the shifting perceptions of political moderation and the implications for Democratic strategies.
“And not pick me politicians that, you know, that wade out into the water and like, well, I don't want to piss off the left and I want to appear more centrist.”
Listener Voicemail on Password Frustrations
50:00 to 51:00
Hear a listener's frustration about digital security measures and their impact on daily life.
Humor and Perspective on Passwords
51:00 to 52:10
Light-hearted banter about the complexities of password management and digital security.
“When she said, I've had it with assholes.”
Debate on Future Political Candidates
55:32 to 56:06
Engage in a discussion about the potential presidential candidates and their viability in future elections.
“Let's say that Gavin Newsom becomes the nominee, that we make it through midterms.”
Political Preferences and Disappointments
56:06 to 58:30
The hosts discuss their political preferences and feelings of disappointment towards candidates like Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris.
“But I think that – because he's such a career politician.”
The Dilemmas of Voting in Red States
58:30 to 1:00:45
A conversation on voting strategies and the implications of choosing candidates in red states.
“But there are so many young, queer, black, brown, marginalized people in red states.”
Bernie Sanders vs. Trump Appeal
1:00:45 to 1:01:52
Discussion on the appeal of Bernie Sanders and Trump to young voters and the political landscape.
“But even in the primary season, that's immediately the conversation is like, well, whoever is the candidate, you're going to vote for them.”
Critique of the Democratic Establishment
1:01:52 to 1:03:48
Hosts critique the Democratic establishment's handling of progressive candidates and their ineffectiveness.
“He talks about we've got to get rid of corporate money.”
Harm Reduction Voting Discussion
1:03:48 to 1:04:47
The hosts explore the concept of harm reduction voting and its impact on Democratic success.
“And that's what I'm very frustrated about.”
Grievances with Technology
1:04:47 to 1:05:15
The hosts share humorous grievances about technology, particularly Bluetooth connections and iPhone updates.
“And I hope that during the primary that we are able to find a more progressive candidate that will run as fearlessly as Zoran Mandami in New York.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02So are we supposed to start the podcast? Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, and all of the fascists can do what? Ah! Cuck off! Is that? Is that what you're supposed to? That was terrible. Oh, my God. It was terrible. I did exactly what you told me to do, Jen. You have to go, fuck off! Oh, fuck off! Hassan? Fuck off! No! I said, cuck off. Yeah, this dumbass, I couldn't. You didn't say anything. You were worse than me. No, I got thrown off. You were worse than me. Why do you always, you want to impress her so much. I've already. I always impress her. You're trying to.
0:42How are your parents? My parents are great. See, he didn't fucking even know they were in town. That's great. Listener, we are in New York City. New York. With part of Fear And. That's right. Yeah. Momdanistan, baby. That's right. Yes. With Hassan and Austin. That's right. And Hassan, what have you had it with? I've had it with a lack of accountability okay from the international elite pedophilic cabal getting zero accountability whatsoever to ICE agents gunning down Americans in the streets I'm done it's time for punishment okay I know a lot of people will say Hassan oh classic he's a communist he wants the gulags but like but like a little bit of re-education I think is a necessity just a little bit not even re-education because for many americans is just education because they haven't been educated at all but like we got to start punishing people that's what i want i want accountability i want law and order cancer culture i want not no not even i want them to go to jail i want people to go to prison if you do a crime there's a social contract if you do a crime you're supposed to do the time.
1:55But unfortunately, if you do a crime at the behest of, you know, this pedophile president, then you're fine. They literally will take you out of prison, just like they did with January 6th. That was apparently a warning. And same goes for the ICE agents. Or if you're like super wealthy, you can do the most heinous crimes of all time and no punishments are dished out. I've had it with that. We got to bring back punishments. I completely agree. I'm going to ride on that, coattail ride on that, that I have had it with corporate Democrats telling us that they are going to rearrange the rules for ICE and then expect a convicted felon, a criminal that hasn't served time, to enforce those laws when they don't care about the laws.
2:38And what I think they're trying to do, Hassan, is I think they're trying to say, okay, we'll behave for now. And then come midterm election day, it's full tilt ICE voter suppression. Why should we believe the corporate democrats when they patronize us to say oh we trust this convicted felon to follow the law yeah they've shown that they don't want to follow the law at all austin well i've had it with road ragers i knew i thought it was coming i thought something was coming but i thought it was going to be like airplane food no i i need to get better i was just getting a little uncomfortable not because i obviously i agree with both of you very but i was like i didn't of course i do oh my god of course i but i didn't have like something as politically driven that i've had it with something with so much moral clarity but anyway i've i've had it with road ragers i'm sick and fucking tired of these people existing on planet earth and pretending that they're the only one so they feel as if they need to put our lives in danger on the road in the pursuit of some sort of petty victory.
3:50Let me ask you this. Yeah. Do you ever road rage? I used to. Yeah, because typically... I'm a retired road rager. I get angry at road ragers. I'm like, oh my God, come on. It wasn't that big of a deal. You're fine. We didn't wreck. Yeah. But then if somebody turns in front of me, I'm like, fuck you, mind your own business. I'm a complete hypocrite on the road rager issue. total hypocrite. I mean, I guess you're right. When I do something wrong, I tell the other, it's like fucking relax. Yeah. You know what I mean? Chill out. Chill the fuck out. I got a solution for Roe Ridge. Just drink a little bit.
4:24You know, it just keeps you locked in. Okay. It cures your anxiety. I love it. New York Post. Hassan Piker comes to New York and says people to drive drunk. Now, I don't, I disagree with him on that. Really, really morally. I don't think you should drink and drink. I do. I oppose drinking and driving, but I do. Can you say that? That's brave. I do. That's a brave thing. But I do think if you smoke a little pot before you drive. Okay. No, I'm joking. I don't know if you are. Are you serious? No, I'm not serious. That's great. I'm just saying. He's actually endorsing DWR. No, guys, don't smoke pot and drive, but it's better than drinking.
5:01If you had to choose one. That's right. You know what I mean? I'm just saying, if you had to choose one. I'm not endorsing either. Okay. Would you rather get behind the will of a person that's stoned or a person that's drunk? Yeah, a person that's stoned. I'm taking the stoner. Yeah, taking the stoner because at least we're going to move slowly and methodically. I think drunk driver. Why? Oh. Why? Spicy. Okay. Okay. First of all, drinking alcohol is legal and driving is legal. So why is the merger of the two illegal? Nobody knows. That's number one. number two it's not about drunk driving per se it's more so about drunk crashing and it's the drunk crashers that actually ruin it for the rest of us we just want to have a good time yeah yeah and that's true and for that reason if you have an experienced drunk driver behind the wheel you don't want them sober anyway because they're going to be cranky they're going to get into an accident they're they're going to be too anxious too nervous behind the wheel so i'd rather have them be you know a little bit on the sauce here's the thing remember that guy that drove princess diana i think he was an experienced drunk driver yeah well they're british now well he was french oh also well not as much and now princess diana the people's princess dead she's no longer with us yeah no i thought that was an assassination of course you did yeah i still think it's an assassination you do he also thinks bush did 9-11 oh really i mean i think i think that the American intelligence community had a lot more information.
6:37He thinks we deserved it, which I think is disgusting. Brave. Brave take number two. No, I think that the American intelligence, I think the international intelligence community had a lot more pre-warning about what potentially could have happened. And I mean, this stuff is not even in the realm of conspiracy at that point. It's just like they just kind of didn't take the necessary precautions. Well, there was a memo. I believe it was Condoleezza Rice that read it that said, Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States. Yeah. That there was a complete, you know, security collapse on that.
7:14I believe that that's been corroborated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how you read that. What do you think about that one building? Like there were two - Yes. Tower seven. I still - Is she as hell? I still to this day. Wasn't that the Marriott Hotel? No, it was some other building that like - No, no, World Trade Tower seven. Who was officed in there? I don't. I think it's like some documents were in there is what conspiracy theorists say. But like, I think that that tower's falling has never had like a good answer. I agree. There's just, and it's just something that we just kind of gave up on.
7:46Completely. It's so weird because you've watched the video and it completely pancakes like a demolition. Yeah, of like a Las Vegas hotel. Now we're talking. That is weird as shit. Speaking of Las Vegas hotel, Stephen Paddock. Another conspiracy that the government just kind of gave up on addressing at all. Steven Paddock, the shooter in the Country Club Festival from Mandalay Bay, the Mandalay Bay shooter. Yeah. That was also a very suspicious act of ultraviolence. There's a lot of unanswered questions there as well. And we just kind of moved on. This stuff happens all the time. And we just kind of move on.
8:27Yeah. I think that in that argument, I think where we are right now was incubated by moving on. Obama didn't charge the black sites and Abu Ghraib. He didn't hold the George W. Bush administration accountable. And all of this stuff gets incubated anti-black police over policing. And now all the white people like, oh, my God, a person got shot in the streets. And all the black Americans are like, this has been our experience the whole time. Yeah. And so I think us moving on is incubated where we are now. Yeah. I mean, Rahm Emanuel, I feel like, has he been on the show? Yeah. I got in a fight with him.
9:07Yeah. Of course. That's unsurprising. But Rahm Emanuel had to resign in disgrace because of the torture of Laquan McDonald in Chicago, in one of these black sites that the Chicago Police Department was operating. Like they took the the CIA's methods of having like torture black side facilities where they could like disappear people and started using it at the domestic level. And we've just, I guess, forgotten about it because now he has ambitions for for higher office. And it's like, Rom, there's a reason why you were the Japanese ambassador. Like they sent you on that cushy gig far away from America.
9:50Yeah. Because you had fucked up. And this is before we even talk about his that was his fuck ups as the mayor of Chicago. Before that, his fuck ups in the Obama administration led to a massive, you know, a sea of red wave picks that came under the Obama administration when he had the when Obama came in with the blue supermajority, like the actual supermajority, which we probably will never see that ever again. So, you know, how are we forgetting about this? we do that's what we do as a nation we just forgive amnesia you know what i've had it with tardiness uh-oh so listener we were supposed to start the podcast promptly i'm so sorry and then the guests and their producer march who i believe is innocent marches he's never innocent i believe march is innocent i believe he is they start messaging that they're late i message they would have never said a word he would have never said a word that's true he would have just showed up and been like this is the time now let me ask you this do you does it cause you anxiety when you're late well when you when you texted me selfish uh that was a it was a good takedown it was it was exactly what that was you said selfish self-indulging millennials incompetent self-indulged millennials is what i refer to you as self-indulged millennials I actually physically started sweating.
11:20I was in the back of my Uber and I was like, sir, could you please drive faster? Mother is angry. Mother is very angry. And then I was like, I couldn't tell. I was like, oh, maybe she's joking. But I was like, it felt a little serious. I was like, I need to maybe ask her if she wants a coffee or something. You did. I did. And I was like trying to like, you know, pass the time and maybe not have you look at the clock. And I don't know. I was sweating. He didn't give a shit. I know he didn't give a shit. We were locked in on the car. We actually, we were supposed to be here at 10.03. So it was going to be three minutes.
11:51Pretty close. Which is like fairly, I mean, it's fine. My helicopter didn't show up. But unfortunately, New York time, like New York traffic doesn't operate that way. It's just a little bit more congested than usual. It is. It's the snow. Have you noticed that too? Well, it's the snow on the side of the road. It kind of makes the roads a little smaller. Yeah, what's going on with that Zoron? Did you see where Bill Ackman is blaming Zoron for the weather? Yeah, that's not surprising to me. Here's my thing. New York Post has been doing that a lot. Bill Ackman. Like, this guy, he's a billionaire, right?
12:26Why hasn't he left New York? It's unbelievable. Nobody has. Did you know the luxury real estate market has boomed since Zoran's victory? Steven Spielberg's coming out here. Yeah. He left L.A. to come out here to be in Mamdannistan. You know? And I just, I find it very strange. I was looking forward to getting a brownstone from a family that was escaping. You know what I mean? Right. I was just going to enter the New York real estate market. Uh-huh. And now I can't because nobody's fucking leaving. Let me ask you this. On a scale of zero to ten, how jealous are you guys? Oh, my God. That I live in New York with Zoran Mondani as mayor and you don't.
13:08It's like everywhere. where everything is collapsing in America in real time. And it's like, you guys are just like having so much fun. You have competent governance. Like, if it were up to me, obviously I would want Zoran to be a little bit more radical. But he's done a phenomenal job so far. And he's basically showing the rest of the world, like, no, you can do these things. You can just kind of do good things for your constituents. Things that you promised that you were going to do for them. They're actually very easy to do. Maybe not easy to do, but like if you have the willingness to follow through on your promises, you can accomplish them.
13:47And people really love that. Shocking. Very big surprise for me. And he governs with the one-two punch. He does it and then victory laps. He does it and promotes it, which Democrats do a terrible job at that. I mean, what made me so mad is Biden does the Infrastructure Act. And then all of these horrific Bible thumper, red state, horrible politicians are then like, look at all the jobs I brought to my state. While they veto, while they voted against it. Well, they voted against it. Yeah. Yeah. If it were up to me, and I said this at the time as well, this was one of the biggest problems I have with the Biden administration.
14:25This is pre-October 7, right? Pre-October 6, actually, because that's when he unveiled the right-wing anti-immigrant bill that was also a total insanity. But before that, there were definitely a lot of accomplishments that he could point to. Afghan withdrawal, there were some issues there, but at the end of the day, it required tremendous bravery. I defend him on that. overdose deaths decreased for the first time in 2024 under his leadership due to mass availability of narcan that was fantastic no mention by the fucking administration at all um and i was so mad that they would just not come out and be like this is what we're doing victory lap yeah we said that we would do this this is what we're doing so uh i think the problem with biden though is that he was genuinely a carcass so there's no way he was going to be able to do that but just like i I don't know, get Pete Buttigieg to be your comms guy.
15:19Take him off the transportation secretary. Or use AI. Trump's using AI. They're doing all these AI videos of him behind the desk. Have you seen it with the finger? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. You know, there's this conspiracy theory that Biden was, like, replaced by some actor. Have you ever seen this? I have not. No. What kind of boomer stuff are you doing? Wait, have you guys not seen this? Like, Biden wasn't real and he was replaced by another Biden with a mask? and I'm like, if you're going to replace Biden with another person, why would you replace him with another demented dude?
15:50Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, if it, because if he was too, like, if he was too young, then all of a sudden it's just like... Well, I know, but like, I don't know. I was like, if this, for this theory to work, like what's the advantage of replacing him unless, if not, I can't believe you guys haven't heard of this. No, I haven't. What part of X am I on? Do you visit like these conspiracy sites often? No, I don't. It just, it gets pushed to me. And I'm starting to believe it a little bit. Yeah. To be honest with you. All right, listen up, listener. The Trump administration has said that we cannot call them fascists.
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20:07Staged or not? Fake. I have it. I have the commemorative Zintin. No! Of course. Oh, my God. It's the fight, fight, fight. You think it's fake? More like fake, fake, fake. I think it's fake, too. You think it's fake? I do. Okay. I think it's fake. I didn't used to. I didn't used to, but now I do. I'm fully interested. I did initially. I thought it was fake. I was in Italy when it happened. And the next day I was out and the Italians were like, Jennifer, do you think it's a look at stage? And I'm like, oh. Oh, yeah. No one in Europe believes it. They all think it's stage. And so then I get back home and we've been so propagandized.
20:43You can't believe conspiracy theories. And it's worked to their benefit. But deep down, I was like, oh, my gosh. Well, I have this nephew that is in federal law enforcement. and he said there's no fucking way that wasn't staged because there was one roof and as a federal you would immediately secure that roof immediately it's just impossible that the secret service local police would not secure that roof and then if you really start diving into it that trump's people allow the press to come instead of squishing them down if there's an active shooter right yeah and then they lower the flag for the photo up and i always thought it was sus wait they lowered the flag yeah bro they lower the flag oh they lower the flag and then when he's saying hang on hang on just a second let me put my shoes on this doesn't sound like somebody who's worried about just got their ear shot off fake totally fake i'm on board yep it's fake as hell and then they find that the supposed shooter was actually uh in a like black rock ad or something many many years prior yeah that's true that's real they black rock went to uh their their school and they were doing some sort of initiative and he was filmed in it but i think he's i think he was an actor i think they put him there they already domed him loser no real social media footprint like these are people that are the forgotten people there's a there's millions of them so what did they do with him they put him in jail didn't they no they don't kill him they domed him and then they put his body up there.
22:16I'm so sorry. And then they were like, oh, my God, here's the shooter. We thankfully shot him. And it's like, no, there is zero percent chance that shooter pulled off. How do you how do you how do they get him to agree to it? Do you think like they didn't? They just he's a loser. He was he was a total forgotten soul that and there are millions of them. And and I think the CIA or the FBI was like, all right, yeah, this one. But if it's the CIA or the FBI, that would have been under Biden's authority. Yeah, I think it was it was. Well, there's still different ideological components within the CIA and the FBI as well.
22:56I mean, they're not all woke under the Biden administration and then magically turn into anti-woke under the Trump administration. Or they could have hired, you know, paramilitaries could have been Israel. That's another, you know, foreign intervention. It's not a secret that Benjamin Netanyahu really wanted Trump to become president. Yeah. Even though Biden was eating his ass every day. Oh, my God. He totally was. It wasn't enough for him. So, I don't know. Could be. I like that. I'm going to, we should float that to Candace Owens. Make that a real thing. Yeah. Israel actually did the fake Trump.
23:33Yeah. Okay. Do you guys want to listen to voice memos from our listeners about their grievances? I love your listeners. You're listening. You're very, you guys are very popular. I mean, you should know this. You're very cool. Every time, every time I tell a gay man about that, I'm going to see Jen and beyond, I've had it. There's an audible gasp. She's very popular. You need to start, you need to start doing appearances at gay bars. I want to be with you. Yes. You know, I cut my teeth going out when I was 18 or 19 with gay men at gay bars. Yeah. That was my, because my choices were in Oklahoma.
24:12When I went to college, I could hang out with the, my peers, the white women, and they wanted to go to Bible study. Well, I was an atheist. Yeah. Or I could hang out with the gay men who had the same common enemy that I had. Yeah. The trad wife, Bible study woman. Yeah. And so I hang out with gay men all the time. Yeah. Well, they're just more fun. More fun. I go out with sometimes with my, everyone's not go out with a straight friend and they're fucking miserable. Oh my God. Here we go. Yeah. Straight man. Yes. They're miserable. You're miserable. No, I'm not. I have a great time. No, you're depressed.
24:44Everybody like they're trying to get pussy. You know what I mean? I don't even go out. So for me, it's like, it's not even. It's so combative. Everybody's trying to fight over the women that don't want them. Okay. You know what I mean? Okay. He's also miserable though. When we have little gatherings with all of our friends, because it's not a gay bar, he'll just pout. He'll be like, why are we not at a gay bar? We've talked about this on the Fear Am podcast quite a bit. I don't pout. No, he does. And then people are like, Austin, what's wrong? Are you okay? And he's like, this is not a gay bar.
25:15It's boring. I'm boring. I'm boring. What are we going to do? Everybody sits around. Gay bars are more fun. They're more fun. They're more happy. Did you see that DJ Diplo recently said he loves to DJ for gay men exclusively because they're more liberated. If their give a fuck meter's broken, it's just more fun and the energy's better. Everybody's just like free. I think straight men are always putting up a facade and trying to be people that they're not. It's true, though. Present company included or excluded. Wait, say what? Present company included or excluded. Are you ripping on me? Oh, oh.
25:48No, he doesn't give it. He just doesn't have fun in any environment. That's true. He's not at gay bars or straight bars. Yeah. you know yeah that's why i'm i'm objective in my interpretation and i read you to filth last time we tried to talk about this yeah i did he wants to that's what it is and when he goes to like a straight environment he goes out jennifer yeah he goes out yeah yeah shrinkage he goes out straight environment not enough twinks not enough fresh hot twinks for him so he just gets upset he's like man I don't like this. I do. I like to go out and see attractive people. It's fun.
26:25Yeah. I will say I've seen some footage of you at protests lately. Oh. And you seem very alive and like you're having a good time. Yeah, that's my favorite thing. Because you are fighting for something with total conviction, man on the street. I'm here for it. Yeah, no, that's what I like to do. Yeah. I've been seeing some edits. He's a fascist fighter. He is a fascist fighter. I've seen some edits of him, thirst traps and whatever, and he keeps reposting them. and they keep coming up on my fucking feed and i'm like on an airplane and it's just like this and i'm like here's the thing can you please stop reposting your own fucking here's the thing okay they can come after me for a million different reasons they can call me you know anti-semi terrorist all the stuff radical communist he wants to you know kill landlords whatever right they can lie about all this stuff but they can't say i'm ugly it's true so i have to use whatever advantage i can get that's true that's why like when people when people are like hassan don't you get annoyed that like the new york times or all these other like you know major newspapers like when they talk about you they kind of talk about you like a bimbo they're like oh he's so hot over and over again they don't talk about your ideas and i'm like listen that's terrorism insurance okay i will if if they're gonna write some insurance yeah that's what i call it i i do all these media hits not because like i want to you know i'm really excited to go to the you know some times event right i just i do it because i know for a fact that the next week jewish insider new york post fox news and all these other like right-wing uh pro Israel outlets are going to be calling me a terrorist.
28:04So it softens that blow. It's the anti-Semitism, anti-Semitic terrorism insurance. I like it. As my mother always told me, darling, if you've got it, flaunt it. Yeah. Okay. That's true. Kylie, who's our first caller? Good morning, girls. Good morning. I listen to your podcasts religiously every day. I get full body chills and I start screaming in my car when you guys get worked up. and yeah keep fighting the good fight anyway I wanted to tell you this information though I have a feeling you've you've probably heard whisperings and I was just listening to one of your more recent I don't know if it was IHIP or I've had it but you were talking about Lindsey Graham and one of you called him Lady Graham yeah and um Lindsey Graham actually has a nickname in the sex worker community his name's ladybug yeah um and that's because he hires professional dominatrixes pro doms um to be uh sissified which means uh being belittled called called like a little sissy bitch um to be beaten up he hires women to call him an f slur and crawl on his knees and beg for it but the reason why everyone his nickname is ladybug is because he has all of these little red moles all over his body that look like ladybugs so everyone in the dom community knows him well and they call him ladybug um part of what these men pay for is to be called like to be The sissification is all about becoming like a feminine man or literally being dressed up like a woman and humiliated.
29:58His kink is humiliation. And I just thought you should know that. Maybe you've read about this on Reddit. I don't know if anyone's ever shared this information with you, but I know it to be a fact. I'm shocked he's hiring women. Yeah, that's the shock. He does have, I mean, he does have sex with men. They call him Lady G-boys. Right. Young men. Yeah. And then he also hires women to call him a F-A-G-G-O-T. Maybe that's like a contingency plan for him to be like, you see, I'm not gay. I just, that's why I hire all these ladies. You know, maybe that's why he did it. Maybe that's why he's doing it.
30:41Because like, yeah, it's the worst kept secret in D.C. It's the least, it's the worst kept secret. It's the least surprising look at him. He looks like a sissy. Well, and he's always shit face drunk. He's always hammered. Like, oh yeah. Total alky. But I saw him recently in Israel and he did a photograph with like the head of Mossad. Yeah. And he posted it like so proud. And I thought they must have so much footage of you doing gay stuff. It must be just safe full of gay stuff with Lindsey Graham. How do these people get honey potted like this? Like, what are they like? Come on, Lindsey, come suck it.
31:21They have not been looking at the Epstein file releases. They are horn dogs, all of them. They're creepy, horny monsters. I know, but do these people have no concept that everything that they write is out there forever? I think that they think they're above it. Or do they just not have the concept at the time? And it's so normalized in their group. It's so flagrant and it's so normalized. And I also think they're both, if you think about the majority of the stuff that's been dripped this last time was after Jeffrey Epstein took a plea deal and everybody knew he was a pedophile, especially in those circles.
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31:51And you have Howard Letnick, who we refer to as Howard Nutlick's wife, emailing him saying, hey, our yacht is going to swing by your island. We are two families. We have a group of four boys and two teenage girls. They have the ages of the children. A mother tells a known convicted pedophile the ages of her daughters that are coming. And everybody in that whole thing is in the Epstein files. Yeah. No, you nailed it. It's because they know that there's no accountability coming. And there isn't. They're right. They're kind of vindicated a little bit, right? I mean, we know that these guys were directly involved in this elite pedophilic cabal.
32:36and not a single punishment or even like a stern warning has been dished out to a single one of these people Nellie Bowles uh Barry Weiss's partner yes just came out on the free press and was like um a lot of people are calling me out for having coffee and going to Jeffrey Epstein's mansion I'm a journalist I should have gone to the mansion even more so I could have like pursued the story and it's like no the reason why they're the reason why they don't have a problem with you going to the mansion is because you're the exact type of fake journalist that is is glad handling and and totally conniving and has no investment whatsoever in the profession and is simply doing it to defend billionaires that's the entire purpose of the free press that's why barry weiss was elevated to editor-in-chief of cbs news when uh you know the the ultra zionist billionaire Larry Ellison purchased or David Ellison purchased CBS News with the express purpose of making it more pro-Trump and making it more pro-Israel than it already was.
33:42This is why these guys have no issues. That's the other side of the story as well. Like there's so many New York Times reporters that were directly engaging in catch and kill for Jeffrey Epstein. Like there are so many high ranking reporters at institutional papers, at legacy papers, legacy publishers that are like, hey, people are snooping around, you know, and they're just like emailing Jeffrey Epstein. It's mind boggling. Even they don't get punished for it. It's crazy. But, you know, Europe is starting to hammer down. I saw the leader of Poland was saying there's no question that this was a honeypot scheme and we're for the for Russia.
34:24and he sent him likely Israel? Do you think it's only Israel? I think it's like for... But what about all the emails with all the Russians? There is a... Well, this is pre-2014 invasion. Like this is pre-Crimean annexation. So like Russia was actually in a different... Like it was not seen as this like feared, you know, Soviet era enemy at that point. Because there's a period of time after the dissolution of the USSR, major collapse of the Soviet bloc obviously but there's a period of time in like from the late 90s to like the early 2010s where the relationship between Russia and all of the European partners and and the United States of America was not as sour it was not like they were not treated as like this total foreign adversary for and in that moment Jeffrey Epstein was trying to create more connections with Russia which by the way is also deeply connected to Israel regardless all the Russian oligarchs have dual passports.
35:21Israel is their entry point into the global marketplace when Russia gets sanctioned. So, you know, Russia has a deep tie, deeply held tie to Israel as well. But having said that, his relationship with Russia is marginal, dare I say, inconsequential in comparison to the deeply held ties that Jeffrey Epstein has to the nation state of israel and high-ranking israeli officials including the former prime minister ehud barak that's crazy there are thousands of emails yeah with them talking back and forth about like bringing in palantir peter feels operation to israel 2013 they're having a conversation ehud barak and jeffrey epstein are about you know this new surveillance technology called palantir this ai-backed surveillance technology and how they should you know how they should bring into israel 2014 palantir opens up shop in israel 2015 the israeli government is using palantir like it's there's israeli spyware that jeffrey epstein is selling to mongolia and all these other places like there are periods of time where they're like basically running the government um so the and and then also the connections to the uae as well so there is a lot more connection to Israel than there is to Russia.
36:44And also on top of that, it kind of doesn't make any sense. Like it kind of destroys the Russiagate narrative from the first administration where it's like, okay, Trump is like Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Putin's butt buddy. Trump is being compromised by Vladimir Putin, right? Okay. So does that mean that all of the high profile Democrats and, you know, Democratic Party boosters are also compromised by Russia then? Because they were compromised by Jeffrey Epstein. If Jeffrey Epstein is a Russian asset, then Bill Clinton is a Russian asset in the same way that Trump is. Doesn't make sense, right? Right.
37:17So that's why I think the Russia thing is more so a deflection because they don't want to talk about Israel. Don't you think it's a narrative that Western media is able to coalesce around? Yeah. Easier because it's like there's not only the history back to the USSR that Russia is our adversary to current. Yeah. Yeah. It's an easier thing because you don't really hear the reporting about uh the former prime minister of israel and there's like some really lurid horrible grotesque allegations about him with little girls yeah there's little girls coming into the i mean there were there were girls coming in in 2016 when ehud barack was snapped coming out of the mansion that same day there's a bunch of girls going into the house i mean i don't think they're talking about you know surveillance technology and did Because you know there were no drag queens and no trans people.
38:12But two immigrants who for sure are criminals, Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, are all over the Epstein files. Yeah, no, of course, no. And I think there was a victim that was trans. Yeah, I think there was. Yeah. See, but that's the thing is like there were no perpetrators that were trans. Yeah, and when she came out and actually talked about Jeffrey Epstein, they bullied her. They were like, he, she, they made jokes. That's funny. Yeah, and they ritualistically humiliated her for trying to out this scheme at the time. I've got a question for you guys. What do you make of the Clintons willing to just testify in public?
38:54I think it's mutually assured pedophilia destruction. So you think that they're just going to admit to everything? No. I think that it'll be a controlled setting and they will not reveal. Oh, do you think that they're corroborating to do this publicly? I think that, well, Donald Trump came out yesterday and said. I love Bill. Yeah, I love Bill Clinton. I love Bill Clinton. He's not. And you notice he provides cover for that, like Elon Musk. I wish him well after they had their big breakup. Elon added him on Twitter. He also said about Ghislaine Maxwell. I wish her well. You just recently said the Clintons, I like them.
39:31I wish them well. So that's always a tell whenever you hear Donald Trump, the most petty, vindictive old queen on the planet. Yes, yes. I mean, total queen. And then he does not have resentment towards them. It's always a tell when he's offering these nefarious people cover. He has more resentment for like the average female reporter in the press pool than he does for like these supposed enemies that he's had. Or the shooter. The shooter of the, you know, this is the guy who. Fake shooter. Yeah, the fake shooter. I know this is way old, but do you think he sucked off Bill Clinton? I'll tell you what.
40:06That to me, this shows you how the Democratic Party cannot fight this game. Oh, yeah. Because they should be screaming at the top of their lungs over and over who blew Trump. I mean, who did Trump give a blow job to? It's here in the EPS. if there were anything remotely, they just need to pick like three scandals and just drive them over and over and over again. Even if it's not substantiated, it's not like the Republicans would ever let that go. The Republicans would never let that good crisis go to waste. And we should not let this blowjob go to waste. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. They kind of had it going with Vance fucking the couch a little bit.
40:45Totally. But they didn't even come up with that. Oh, they didn't? That's the thing. That's the internet. That was a random left Twitter user who like made a fake, well not fake, it was real it's in the book hillbilly elegy excerpt that like went super viral and then it became like a news story i'm with you on this so they need to they need to be talking about it a lot more and also they won't and it would help them so much with all of the centrist democrats are like oh we can't talk about culture wars we need to move to the center if they go on offense and go they're the ones that are closeted here that's why they talk about gay people all the time that's why they're obsessed with genitalia because they're so sexually suppressed and it turns out trump's blowing people and we know he knows how to do it because we saw on the campaign trail an amazing familiarity with him trying to blow off a microphone yes you know and they should just drive it over and over and over again even his uh the the trump double jerk off the double dick yeah yeah yeah and he's always talking about how hot he thinks men are i know yeah he's an old I always say he's a bisexual or a biromantic asexual.
41:55He does not have sex to fulfill a sexual desire. He has sex for power. That's why he's doing all these sexual assaults. No. What? Absolutely. I don't think they fucked in years. You think they ever fucked? Maybe a couple of times. That's another crazy thing. Melania was introduced to Donald Trump through Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, my God. This was a suspicion that we all had already. So it was confirmed in the files. It's confirmed in the files. It's there. It's crazy. How are the Democrats not using this? Well, I know how, because they also are a part of the Epstein stuff. And I think for a lot of Democrats, their job is to be controlled opposition, because right now we're talking about special elections taking place all around the country.
42:41Yesterday, in the 11th district in New Jersey, there was massively consequential congressional race that took place in the Democratic Party primary. And the Bernie AOC candidate actually pulled off a tremendous upset. The Essex County Democrats had a different pick. The establishment Democrats had a different pick. And APAC had a different pick. and all of these different forces coalesced and through the ashes of that a real fighter came out and and took on an upset victory i don't want to mess up the name here but i'm gonna i'm gonna pull it real quick yeah this just happened this happened last night now i think they're still they're still counting the votes this is a super close super close race from what i understand i don't know if like uh it's been finalized yet but new jersey 11 steve kernackie everyone's favorite khaki-wearing Steve Karnacki writes, What's happening in New Jersey 11 tonight feels momentous.
43:44The state has long been dominated by a throwback political culture, particularly on the Democratic side. But there's been an upheaval in the last few years as the party's increasingly activist-slash-professional class base has been in revolt. In Essex County, the biggest part of the district having the support of party leaders was for generations practically tantamount to victory in a primary. But tonight, the Essex organization-backed candidate is running third in the county, far behind the AOC Sanders-backed progressive insurgent Annalia Mejia, who is currently leading the district-wide and has no support from any of its county organizations.
44:20And not only that, but also AIPAC was taking out the main make-it-or-break-it former congressperson, who, again, former congressperson in a state like New Jersey, established Democrats are supposed to win in Essex County and and uh and Mahia is is is doing tremendous is like most likely going to win and it was such a close race that the decision desk actually projected the wrong winner initially so why am I saying all this because there's obviously a lot of appetite for fighters appetite for you know Bernie style politics in the Democratic Party's base of support And yet the establishment Democrats are pushing that aside every step of the way.
45:07Yes. This, along with Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries' capitulations to the Trump administration, when they have tremendous momentum behind them, leads me to believe that the establishment Democrats are more predisposed and more focused on maintaining business as usual politics and trying to stop the left flank from seizing control of the Democratic Party, even though the wishes of the base is clearly with the left flank. I completely agree. In the Venn diagram of corporate Dems and MAGA, they have a lot more in common than the people that you're talking about. It's taken me a few election cycles to figure this out.
45:53We like to live out together. We were at the DNC together. No, you were, you're, you're, you're, your, your radicalization was much faster than his. Yeah. I'm a quick study. Yeah. For him, I've been telling this to him for years and he's like, no, no, no, no. But it started to click with me because I'm like, okay, over and over again, we lose to a fucking idiot. And I'm like, well, why can't they do this? Why can't they do this? These policies are so popular. And then it occurred to me, well, they have the same corporate masters and donors that the Republican party does. And you know what irritates me?
46:28And one of the messages that I wish the Democratic Party would say, because the Republicans are like, government, government's bad. Government, government's bad. And I wish the Democratic Party could say. Government's good. No, government is good. The reason when government fails you, it's because the corporate private interests get involved and corrupt it. That's when government fails you. But the Democratic Party cannot say that. No. Because they are corrupted by the same donors and same private interests. Government is great. Government's amazing. So proud of you, darling. Government's amazing.
47:00But thank you. This is a big moment. I'm so proud. This has been one of my talking points. You don't understand. Recently. When you met him, he was already like halfway there. When I met him, he was all over the place. And I relapse sometimes. Like when somebody's really hot and they're charismatic, I start to be like, oh, fuck. But you haven't bid on the Gavin Newsom bait. I have not. I have not. In fact, I did it. Well, I did originally. And then I and then I and then I took and then I realized that I saw multiple like, you know, collaborations with Shapiro. The Ben Shapiro thing to me is just political suicide.
47:38Suicide. Charlie Kirk. What the fuck are you doing? Telling Charlie Kirk that your son is a major Charlie Kirk fan. Dog, you are admitting that you have failed as a parent at that point. He also won't sit down with you. And it pisses me off. It pisses me off because I'm like, you will sit down with Ben fucking Shapiro and you won't even sit down with a left part, the far left part of your own party. But here's the thing that drives me crazy about corporate Democrats. They want to learn how to talk to Republicans. That's so wrong. You need to learn how to beat them. That's the difference. Republicans focus on how do we beat the fucking libs.
48:11We hate them. We hate their pronouns. We hate that they don't have shame when they have sex. They make stuff up. We hate their drag queens. We fucking hate them. And if the Democrats ethos and warrior ideology would be, we want to know how to beat you. We don't want to know how to talk to you. Yeah. The one in 10 people that went from the triple Trump that went from Adani, what they're looking for is authenticity. Yeah. And not pick me politicians that, you know, that wade out into the water and like, well, I don't want to piss off the left and I want to appear more centrist. That pisses me off because inherently, because the right has gone so far to the right, the middle is now shifted to the right.
48:52You know what I mean? So inherently, if you're sitting here being like, oh, we need to be more moderate or move towards the middle. No, you're not moving towards the middle. You're moving to the right is what you're doing because the new middle is over here. You know what I mean? It pisses me off when I hear these motherfuckers saying, well, you know, the average American wants something more moderate. And I am so incensed by watching the media. The average American is always worried about UnitedHealthcare profits. That's why they're like, oh, I really, oh, I can't have free healthcare. Sorry.
49:24I really want to make sure UnitedHealthcare is turning profit this year. I want to make sure Palantir is funded. Yeah. Yeah. I want to make sure AI comes to take our jobs, but we blame them. And also our electricity cost is skyrocketed because we're subsidizing the data. You know what also. Let's take another caller. Oh, yes. All right. Okay. Well, first of all, I have with y 'all because it took me 20 fucking minutes to figure out where to leave you a voicemail. And quite honestly, I don't even know if this is the right place. It might not be. But I'm going with it because it's the only place I got.
49:54So there you go. What I've had it with is assholes. and specifically all of the assholes in the world that make it so we have to have passwords and third-party verification and text messages for the passwords to verify the password and different passwords and i gotta change my fucking password the hours of my life that i will never get back because of passwords are fucking stupid it's just stupid i can't just enter a password you got to text my phone to use the password or you can email me that but it's the wrong email that i don't even have anymore because you know why somebody fucked it up the assholes so i had to get a new email so that email doesn't even work so yeah that's that's what i've had it with passwords and verifying passwords and more than anything i've just had it with assholes in general well i have to say i think that in a data breach this caller is the first to go like she's unfortunately she's got third party i know she does but she's had it with it and she will do everything to avoid it she is the the the stereotypical one password for everything user and i'll be honest with you i've also had it but i it's a necessary evil yeah no i've been on the two-factor authentication third-party verification stuff for many many years because like when when you start streaming on twitch yeah the people that she was referring to as assholes they're all over that yeah all the nerds that like all the comp sci nerds love watching twitch and they love hacking yeah i've learned about you know sim swiping yeah and the ways in which uh the ways in which these guys will like hack your phone the social engineering that takes place i I had to get all of my shit barricaded.
51:51We've had it with this fucking collar. Let me ask you this. When she said, I've had it with assholes. What was your initial gut reaction to that as a gay man? Oh, that's so interesting. Did you think literal assholes? You know what? I actually wasn't thinking about assholes. Your mind wasn't in the gutter? No, it wasn't in the gutter. After all of this political growth? When you put ass in front of a hole, I don't think about that one. If you just said I've had it with holes, I would think about an asshole. But I wouldn't think about an asshole unless you were to specifically articulate that you were talking about that.
52:23Because I don't think I'm not. He can't even think of having it with assholes. He wants to have more of the assholes. Yeah. I can't even. Yeah. If she is a straight woman, I could see being having it with straight men's buttholes, but not gay men's. I don't know about you guys, but I think GLP ones are just amazing. Every time I look over at my beautiful co-host pumps, I just marvel at how she has become the most gorgeous version of herself with the help of GLP ones. And I also love how open she is about it, taking away the shame and normalizing that it's completely okay to use GLP ones to become the very best you can.
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55:39Devastating. Do you vote for him over JD Vance? I don't know. God damn it, I'd probably be at the fucking DNC. I know. Oh, 100 % I would be too. But – I would. This is what I hope. I hope if for some reason – but I actually don't – I think he's really shot himself in the foot recently. What I hope if Gavin Newsom were to ever become some sort of nominee, which I'm not rooting for, by the way. Even though he's easy on the eyeballs. He's very attractive. But I think that – because he's such a career politician. He's such a thirst trap for the oval. I know, but to me, my hope is that maybe he could be a blank canvas.
56:22This is you relapsing. No, I'm not relapsing. This is my hope, but this is if he becomes an nominee. The guy who has controlled the democratic stronghold of California with an iron fist and the veto pen is going to magically become a social democrat. I'm not saying I think it's going to happen. I just said that would be my hope, but I'm also not, this is not my, at this point, I'm You're selling it to yourself already. I'm extraordinarily disappointed in Gavin Newsom. Who do you vote for, J.D. Vance or Gavin Newsom? Well, I'd have to vote for Gavin Newsom, of course, 100%. I wouldn't blink. What about you, Hassan?
56:52I'd probably vote third party. You would? Oh, yeah. I mean, at that point, it doesn't even matter. Because my policy on this is the same as my refusal to endorse Kamala Harris. the reason why I did not endorse Kamala Harris was because she did things that were not only unproductive but also unconscionable but and I still stand on that I still talk about it all the time because people constantly bring it up they're like you didn't sufficiently like promote Kamala Harris you're the reason why she lost I'm like I am incapable there is no singular force in this country that is capable of making or breaking an election and if that was real then it is the most idiotic thing not to listen to my demands but everybody knows that that's not real right if i had this singular force to be able to make kamala harris the president then kamala harris should be coming to me every day and being like let me do a collab with you please right that's not the case of course and they know it that's why they didn't do it but um the the campaigns are always responsible for whether or not they are able to win uh the crowds win the population over and combat against the couch, not necessarily even against the Republican Party, but usually you're fighting against the couch, people who just don't go out and vote.
58:11And for me, the way I see it is if the Democratic establishment makes this decision one more time, just as they did with Hillary Clinton, just as they did with Kamala Harris, and in some ways, just as they did with Joe Biden as well, which led to Trump too, then they just don't care. And there's not much I can do beyond that. Let me tell you something. I agree with everything you say, But as a person who lived in a red state for 50 years, I would crawl through 10 feet of concrete to vote for Gavin Newsom, even though I think he's duplicitous, a hypocrite, a thirst trap, hungry for power, all of the things that you say and harms the Democratic Party and sets the psychological soil to be more prey to fascism.
58:52All of that I agree with. But there are so many young, queer, black, brown, marginalized people in red states. And even though this corporate Democrat is, you see it in a long term game. In the short term game, a President Newsom over a President J.D. Vance means that these people have some protection. because these red states, like here's what has happened in red states. The Democratic Party abandoned the 50-state strategy. So you have Republicans or a Republican that switches parties a dim, and their goal is to out-crazy each other. So in Oklahoma, we have like zero Muslim population, but we have banned Sharia law like four times.
59:35You have a guy that's running for governor right now that's so against transgender people that he has a commercial where there's a banana and he slices it with a knife. Like that somehow people are going to start whacking wieners off at school in Oklahoma City public schools where they just put the Trump Bibles in them. So you have this, people out crazy each other and these state governments are so fucking unhinged. When you live in California, or New York where I live now, you lose touch even before Trump of how diabolical these unhinged right-wingers are. And I agree with you. I think Gavin Newsom has committed political suicide.
1:00:16I think Kamala started off her campaign well, and she should have stayed to the left and leaned into it. They all thought she was liberal anyway, so why not just lean into it? But I would enthusiastically crawl through 10 feet of concrete for all of the marginalized people. Do you feel like the Democrats know that, and that's why they get away with their ineptitude? 100%. That's what I mean. So I'm like, I don't even I don't even entertain that stuff, especially this far out from an election. But even in the primary season, that's immediately the conversation is like, well, whoever is the candidate, you're going to vote for them.
1:00:51Right. And you know what's really indecent about that, too? They never return the favor for left flank candidates. Because no one ever made hay about Bernie Sanders potentially becoming the candidate and all of the articles that came out about how Trump might be more preferable to Bernie Sanders. Because they were writing those. Liberals were writing those articles talking about how the head of Goldman Sachs, who was like, I'm a lifetime Democratic Party voter. I think Donald Trump is better than Bernie Sanders. I know several people personally that went on that Bernie Sanders to Trump pipeline.
1:01:28No, it's a real thing. It's a crazy thing because Bernie appealed to the anger of these young people that couldn't afford the cost of living, health care, everything like that. He appealed to them just like Trump does. But obviously Trump's solutions are blaming on the immigrants, the trans people and everything like that. But it's crazy to me that these people exist. I'll tell you what's really started to change me a lot is when Zoran, who, an incredible candidate, laser focused on affordability, laser focused on universal human rights, did not have to throw one fucking group under the bus. I've had Cory Booker on my podcast.
1:02:09He talks about we've got to get rid of corporate money. We've got to get rid of money. Zoran did all of that. And, you know, Hakeem, day late and a dollar short to endorse. Chuckles never endorsed. And then Cory Booker never endorsed. And the way he was treated by the Democratic establishment is so appalling to me. It just it really opened up my eyes because I'm like, this is the new shiny object right now in the Democratic Party. He has a formula. He has it. He has the movement. He took on billionaires. he took on the democratic establishment and he kicked their fucking ass and didn't take one corporate dime and the democ corporate democrats like trying to distance themselves i was like oh they are they really are magalite they really are they didn't just distance themselves there were people that distanced themselves and then there were people that were attacking zoran in the most islamophobia with the most like kirsten jillibrand coming out and being like Like Zoran is a jihadist who wants to kill all Jews.
1:03:09Yeah. That was insane. That's like shit that Trump doesn't say about Zoran. Trump now loves Zoran. But like even before, like the fact that there were establishment Democrats that were more Islamophobic towards Zoran Mamdani than the president, who is the top Islamophobe, was mind boggling to me. It was yet another moment of vindication, though. So for me, it's like I think these guys are zealots. The establishment Democrats are zealots. They have this defense of liberalism that they will not shake off, that they think they will be able to go back to business as usual politics no matter what. And even if it doesn't happen, even if we do turn fascist, they'll still hold their cushy positions and they'll be, you know, they'll be complacent and they'll be fine.
1:03:57And that's what I'm terrified of. And that's what I'm very frustrated about. And I think a big part of that, a big part of that argument does revolve around harm reduction voting because harm reduction voting is correct. It's right. In theory, it is correct. But harm reduction voting does not actually lead to Democrats winning decisively, and it certainly does not force them to legislate appropriately when they are in power to make sure that they have that they're following on their agenda and that they never have an incompetent fascist win office ever again. And that's precisely the reason why I try to stay away from harm reduction narratives to the best of my ability, because that is the reason why democratic complacency is calcified in this country.
1:04:44I agree. I agree. And I hope that during the primary that we are able to find a more progressive candidate that will run as fearlessly as Zoran Mandami in New York. I agree all right any any last grievances that you would like to share with the um I've had it listeners what is it with fucking bluetooth connections in the car you know what I mean oh yeah it's like hello yeah it's like the car and the phone act like they've never met each other but they've done this connection like 20 or 30 times yeah I like that and I gotta pull into I gotta pull into the parking lot I gotta get out of the car I gotta act like I've you know met the car again and the fucking bluetooth not working then i got to sit there silently maybe put the phone in the cup holder use it as a speaker yeah i've had it yeah i've also had it with iphone updates yes it's all over it the new liquid ass oh my god the new liquid ios is so bad i couldn't figure out how to airdrop something yesterday and i was next to an 80 year old woman who's like how do you not know that i think it's a group of what what did i call you guys uh self-indulgent millennials yes i think it's a group of self-indulgent millennials that sit around a table and say okay i have a great idea for some new updates and they over complicate everything with a lot of corporate speak all right listen i think that's all we have yes for today thank you for having us yes i will be on fear and that's right uh-huh back to back back to back all right go we're getting every minute out of you that we can all right bye listen Bye.
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