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29:47And I'm like, the thing about Trump is he thinks he has good taste and he doesn't. He has terrible taste. It's like when the world's tackiest and trashiest people get money and you're like, oh, that's not just new money. That's trashy new money. And they're like you know we're gonna have mayo sandwiches and then we're gonna have neon uh disco lights you're like yeah or maybe you could have i don't know a lawn with like tulips they're like nah tulips are gay we're gonna have like disco balls we're gonna have ufc fights on the lawn this is this is wealth and like he's that guy he's like a vulgarian an uncouth vulgarian like i always think about this god gives the wrong people money all the time right like why why can't like good decent people with good taste get the money can you imagine like the white house there'd be instead of like this 300 million dollar ballroom slash bunker i don't know maybe a wing for visitors and diplomats and children and a garden something beautiful right maybe you bring in some like elegant designers and architects uh no not donald trump he wants to make everything shiny and big like mar-a-lago right it's all it's interesting that you said this it's all performative it's all sheen and exterior because the inside is hollow.

31:02And in the case of Donald Trump, even the outside, it's so gaudy. It's like cheap Vegas. It's like, it's like Timu Reno. Yes. No disrespect to Reno or Timu. Vegas. And here's the deal. He bankrupted casinos. I believe that he is looting. I mean, this is just my opinion, but based on his history, my guess is that when he, if we ever see the end of the Donald Trump presidency, this administration will have squandered, embezzled, and left the treasury at the lowest point. And I do not believe for a minute that all these tariffs are going into, you know, funds for the US citizen. I think they're going into his pocket, his friend's pockets.

31:48I mean, that's my opinion, but it is based on his history and how he has done business his entire life. I don't think it's even your opinion, Angie. And we could just look right. It's December. Donald Trump in less than a year, him and his Tweedledee and Tweedledum children have made over$5 billion in the past year through crypto. He's passed the pro-crypto legislation that helps him and his family. And he pardoned his business partner, his crypto a business partner, CZ, who literally was serving time for admitting to committing money laundering. And then he was asked, well, who's CZ? I don't know who CZ is what?

32:26I don't know. So either he has dementia or he's lying. And I think you're absolutely right. Once it's all said and done, if there's accountability, I think the criminality is going to be, you have to follow the money for the criminality, right? Jared Kushner,$2 billion from Saudi. Stephen Whitcoff and his father, $1.5 billion, right? All these people who've made money. Remember when he was bragging while the stocks went down? He's like, well, he bought the dip. Charles Schwab made money. That person made money. All the people who are giving him money for his ballroom, right? Like all these obscene ethical violations.

33:00And you and me are old enough to remember that Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm. Yes. And here's the thing. What makes me so crazy about that is I expect now the Republicans, my habit to start this episode was I've just had it with how the other two branches of government have just capitulated and they have not been a checks and balances. But I see this as, so of course the Republicans, I mean, Mike Johnson has no balls at all. He can't even disagree with him, but it's the Democrats. Like where is their strong opposition? Where are they beating the drum all day, every day about the corruption?

33:42And I know they flood the zone. There's a million things they could be talking about. I get that. But if we don't have leadership that is willing to stand up on every issue, every day, all day long, then why are you in leadership? I need you to sit down and shut up and let somebody that will fight get up to the front. Angie, I am writing a strongly worded letter. I am writing a strongly worded letter, Angie. It makes me crazy. I'm so glad. See, this is why I love you in general, because you all call out a spade, a spade. And you also call it Democrats, which I think is very important. I'm sure you get some pushback like I do from, you know, lifelong liberals and Democrats.

34:26Oh, it's one big team. Vote blue no matter who. How come, you know, you just have to criticize Trump my entire life. my entire life the democratic party has said whoa whoa whoa slow your roll not now take it easy let's punt it right now's not the time and i believe now is the time angie this is a generational moment because you talked you said young people right you were always shocked by our demographic who comes and talks to us right but young people are they've had it they're done they demand reform and what we're looking at with the establishment democrats not all democrats folks i give credit where credit's due i'm talking about the leadership is they want restoration where they want to go back to the good old days right they want to oh they're too big to fail let's still suck up to the the broligarchy oh you know as gavin newsom said oh it's a big club it's a big tent we can't tax the billionaires oh let's take a photo like chuck schumer did with uh uh with war criminal netanyahu in the summer oh let's let's throw everything and the kitchen sink and a bill Clinton at Zoran Mamdani.

35:32Oh, it's still December. Trump has embraced Mamdani before we have, because Mamdani stood on business, went against the billionaires, talked about affordability, didn't throw the woke or the immigrants under the bus, and said, you know what, I'm opposed to a genocide, but I love the Jewish people. See, I think, and I shared this with you, and Jen, when you were on my humble show, I believe there are three litmus tests for the Democratic Party moving forward, if you really want to be the leader of the Democrats. Number one, do you still suck at the teat of the billionaires and broligarchy most of them still do if you do you're not the person number two do you still make excuses for genocide or support israel if you do folks you're the the forget the base young people around the world ain't there with you they ain't there and the third one is are you willing to sacrifice one of us to get ahead i'm old enough to remember, Angie, a year ago, Gavin Newsom turned on a dime on his podcast.

36:31Who did he invite on his podcast? The first guest? Charlie Kirk. Second guest? Steve Bannon. Oh, Steve Bannon, yes. Charlie Kirk. I've forgotten about Steve Bannon. And he threw the transgender community under the bus, and Democrats voted for the Lake and Riley Act, threw the undocumented immigrants on their bus, and all of them stayed quiet when it came to pro-Palestine activists literally being kidnapped. So that's my take. I think if you're sucking at the teeth of the brologarchy, you still take photos with Nanyahu and you're willing to throw one of us under the bus, which I believe Schumer, Jeffries and the establishment folks have.

37:03To me, we got to call. We have to call them. Right. All we have is the Democrats. So we need them to fight the Republicans. But I believe we deserve a better Democratic Party. And I agree. There's a small window, Angie, where right now we can push, push, push and create the fighter that we deserve for this moment. That's my take. Curious what you think. Okay, so Jennifer and I have had this conversation too. And we, like you, think you have to have these honest conversation with our leaders. They're the leaders we have, so we can't hold them to an impossible litmus test. But I think yours is right on the money.

37:40You have to we have to know that the same people that are electing Donald Trump are not electing our representatives because there is no there's no opposition to these people. And we have to say as a party, because from what I'm seeing, the leadership is not listening. They're not listening to the party on how we feel about the genocide in Palestine. They're not listening about AIPAC. They're not listening about corporate donations and billionaires. So we have to make them listen. And if we can't make them listen, we need robust primaries, which I keep going back to David Hogg. They put him in there in the Democratic Party, gave him a position in the Democratic National Committee, and they were like, yes, we need new blood, new things.

38:32They fired him like within two weeks because he said, we need robust primaries. If you're a corporate Democrat, you're sucked up to AIPAC. I mean, I don't know if those were his reasons. Those would have been mine. They fired him. They didn't want it. And that's, you know what that tells me? I look at this and I know this is just one example, but in the House Oversight Committee, we had Jerry O 'Connell who has since passed, which he had cancer and he ran and took a leadership position all while knowing he had cancer, but that's a topic for another day. Fucking nothing was happening. Nothing was getting done.

39:05You put Robert Garcia in there. This thing has been run like a well-oiled machine because he's young. He's not so beholden to other people that he is making a difference. And that's the kind of candidates we need. And when I go back to the Zoran thing, I look at him and think, that's your blueprint, Democrats. There it is. You don't even have to hire a consultant. You've got it. You've watched a year of it. Do I think they're going to do that? No. No. You know, Zoran is the one that is most recent, I think is most salient, because remember they spent millions of dollars and they went to the five-star hotels and were trying to figure out where is the liberal Joe Rogan?

39:47They were finding him, trying to find her. Yes, we got asked about it all the time. Like, where's Waldo? Where are they? Zoran comes out of nowhere. Assemblyman, right, ascends on this consistent message. I interviewed him, Angie, about like 10 months ago when he was a distant number two. And I said, I think you have a shot. He stayed on message. He's like, win or lose, this is what I believe in. This is what I fight for. I'm going to be consistent, affordability. I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus. I'm against the genocide. I am Muslim. I am brown skinned. I am an immigrant, right? I eat with my hands.

40:19I am a New Yorker. Says all those things, wins. Historic race. Everyone gets a multicultural coalition to come on. Almost wins by 10 points. The Democratic establishment folks, I mean, I think this underscores what me and Andrew are saying for people who are skeptical. They brought out Clyburn, Clinton, Summers, billionaires, Bloomberg, right? Against Mamdani, and wait for it, it gets even worse. For Cuomo, a disgraced politician they had kicked out of the party. But they said, whoa, whoa, whoa. We would rather bring in Cuomo than actually go against the billionaires and Bibi. Is that not crazy?

40:59That is crazy. And, you know, here's the thing. All those billionaires banded together. We're going to go after him. They spent gazillions of dollars to go against him. And they're like, we're moving out. We're moving our companies. You know what those billionaires have done since he, do you think they've sold their companies, sold their property? They've done fucking nothing. They're toothless. They want to be in New York City. They don't want to come to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. They want to be where the action is. And so all of these people and Gavin Newsom, he's going to have a really hard time with his message because I think he's a great messenger.

41:30still mad at him about the charlie kirk thing where he threw trans people under the bus but he's a you know we have to let him evolve in a town and make amends you know i don't i don't think you know i'm from california was born and raised in the bay i followed him as my entire career uh i left because i married up uh and my wife is better looking smarter and a doctor so when you're a poor writer and you're better looking smarter more accomplished wife uh gets a job in DC. You moved to Virginia, DC. So I moved at 32, but I've been following his career. He was also the commencement speaker at my law school graduation at UC Davis, right?

42:06So always been slick, always been a good talker, right? He's had the gift of the gab, but there's two of the planks that, well, three of the planks he's already filled. You saw how the wind, he was seeing where the wind was blowing. He goes, ah, this is the age of Rogan and anti-wokeness. on my podcast let me bring on the two worst people and agree with them so he flipped like that so that's something for y 'all to notice right huh he flips real quick okay number two given the opportunity in december in december angie he was uh being uh interviewed by aaron sorkin not the west wing writer but the you know the the economics reporter for new york times openly asked him at the Dealbook Summit.

42:49Taxing the rich. Well, it's a big tent. You see all the numbers. You've seen all the polls. You see how this is such a winning message. Affordability, fight the oligarchy, still isn't there. And then when you saw the short circuit of his brain, the three smooth talkers, one of them short circuited on your show, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, and Gavin, when asked about Israel. Remember that? He goes, he got so angry. That's angry, Gavin, And for those who don't know, Van Lathan asked him, and I talked to Van Lathan afterwards. Van Lathan was really sincere. He goes, you know, what about supporting AIPAC?

43:21And Gavin said, that's interesting. I find it interesting that you're asking this. It's very interesting. And I talked to Van later. He's like, oh, why is this interesting? Like, he was sincere. What Van didn't realize later was he was implying that by asking this question, Gavin was trying to undercut him and say you're anti-Semitic, right? That's what was that. So you saw the short circuit of the three smoothest talkers of the Democratic Party on this issue, which is why I believe he won't change, Angie. But if he does and he's our fighter, I'll take it. But do you trust him, Angie? Do you? Okay, so first of all, I'm Pollyanna.

43:56And I really want to believe that he would listen to the bass. I know that he would not. I don't know this, but I believe he did test the air after the election with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon. But he has been a strong advocate for all human rights, including trans rights, his entire marital career and on. So I hope that he will stick with that. I'm hoping that when he you're looking at me like, lady, you are too. No, no, I'm listening. I'm sincerely listening. I can't help but believe that these very skilled, very seasoned politicians will not look at the overall Democratic wins, the big wins that we've had.

44:43And I know the two governors were, you know, more conservative, but that they will see that as far as MAGA took the Republicans, that they have to move left for their base. I mean, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. And here's the deal. I'm not married to Gavin Newsom, although I think he is hot, magnetic, great speaker. I mean, he's a fabulous politician. But there are other people out there that I mean, I'm not married to him as the 2028 candidate. But those are the issues that any candidates going to have to confront. You've got to stop letting the richest people and the richest corporations continue to not contribute anything to the infrastructure, paying livable wages to people, and then browbeating them about being poor.

45:33Like you have got to bring in the billionaires, just like Zoran did. I think he did like a math problem. And I can't remember what the numbers were, but it's like, okay, so this person makes a million dollars a year. So his taxes are going to increase. And the number, it was like, compared to the fact he's bringing home 100 ,000, this little bitty bit's not going to make a difference. And I thought that was kind of powerful. So this is me being a bit, I'll be the cynic then. Okay, you be the cynic. You be the polyunic, I'll be the cynic. I want to say, inshallah, I hope you are right. Why I think, unfortunately, you might be off on this is the following reason.

46:09I am old enough to remember the 2008 economic crisis. All of the people who created the crisis, and it was terrible, folks. I lived through it. I was a young man. You all remember. They were too big to fail. We bailed them out. Then I remember, right, the Democratic establishment, not all Democrats, have had 10 years, going back to your point, to hold Donald Trump accountable. Joe Biden brings in one of his great mistakes in his presidency, Merrick Garland, who cares more about the institutions, let's be honest, than holding Trump accountable. And I always said Trump will never see a single day in jail for all his crimes, right?

46:42slow walked it. Then you saw the alleged centrists come in and completely neuter and destroy what was once Biden's economic agenda. Then going back to Connolly, I'm so glad you brought that up because I always bring up that example as to why I'm cynical. You got this moment, House Oversight Committee. Another aspect of that story, for those who don't know, you know who also threw their hat in the ring to be the head of the Oversight Committee for Democrats? AOC. Nancy Pelosi, folks, Nancy Pelosi, from her hospital bed, rallied the votes against AOC for Jerry Connolly, rest in peace, who literally says, I have cancer, I'm about to turn 74.

47:21And then Debbie Dingell in her 70s says, I want to be the head of communication. You know, you know who also threw her hand in the ring? Jasmine Crockett, who, whatever you think of her, I think she's a great, is great communicator, right? Then you saw, literally, you saw the blueprint, and just what, a month and a half ago, they're like, we're going to back Cuomo. And now it's December. And as of this recording, they still haven't embraced Mamdani. And then the answer is, well, why? The question is why? Why? My take on this is it's a great George Carlin quote. It's a big club and you ain't in it.

47:57I think that at the end of the day, it's a big club. That club is the anchor of that club is money, wealth, access, and privilege. And my fear, my fear, Angie, is if it means reforming or burning down the house, they will choose to burn it down. And I look at what they're doing to Mumdani. I look at the fact that Gavin was given a layup last week. Just say, I'll tax him. Didn't say it. Because, you know, with Gavin and the Democrats, especially in California, from Silicon Valley, where I'm from, they are like this with Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and the broligarchy. And you had the Democrats right now go all in with AI.

48:37Like literally last week, like I'm terrified of AI. And the Democrats are like, now, now, Jeffries is like, AI is the future. And so to me, it's a big club and we ain't in it. And the democratic establishment, yes, they're different from MAGA when it comes to all the horrible racist stuff, but when it comes to the money, when it comes to the power, I think it's ideological. I think it's personal. And I think they're not built for this moment and they're not made for this. That's why you need an outsider like Zoran who comes in or Tallarico or these other folks who are willing to say, you know what, I see where the wind is blowing.

49:09I'm with the people who are against the establishment. And these institutions are seen as architects and architectures of our oppression. We're going to change it up. And Schumer and Jeffries, they still haven't embraced Mamdani, Angie. So that's my retort. Unbelievable. What a huge miss that is. Lister, it's a new you and it's time to set your budget. Do you have any idea how much you're paying on monthly subscriptions? I didn't before I used Rocket Money. You have so many subscriptions and you're paying extra for it. So managing your finances with Rocket Money saves you time and money. Also, Rocket Money has automatic transaction categorization across accounts, plus customizable categories and tags to reveal spending patterns and add context.

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51:33Just use the code HATIT for 15 % off the premium starter kit at BranchBasics.com. After you purchase, when they ask where you heard about them, please make sure to mention our show. okay so jennifer usually asks you what you've had it with i forgot to ask and now we're short on time so i'm just gonna scoot to had it or hit it oh my god welcome to had it or hit it i would hit it i hit it every day sometimes twice a day all right had it or hit it marjorie taylor Green's transformation. I have had it. Absolute BS. I can't believe this trashy person has been rehabilitated by corporate media. Still, folks, Jewish space lasers, you know, harassing David Hogg, going after Ilhan Omar with the MAGA hat, voted with Donald Trump, like, essentially all the time, voted for the big, beautiful bill.

52:34Now, all of a sudden, she's civil. Yeah, because he turned on you because his base turned on you and she still hasn't condemned nick fuentes she is trash she's america first folks she is a snake please be careful don't fall for this sorry for that rant no and i agree with you and what's so going back to the democratic party she is making clips and she's doing a press tour saying the stuff that democratic leadership shit like when she's the expert on the message we got real problems real real problems okay next one had it or hit it lactate pills hit it lactate pills are like hey what you know what i didn't plan this this oh there you go top 10 creation if you are a south asian male and perhaps i think this is where you're going to find other demographics chiming in after the age of 40 I was warned by my father, you're going to need lactate pills.

53:32And I said, what are you talking about? Not me. I have a gut of steel. And then the universe says, no, you're South Asian. This is what will save you. So this, I think this is one of the top 10 greatest creation on earth. I have like thousands of these. Like I'm like a diabetic when it comes to lactate pills. They're in my car. They're in my backpack. They're in my pockets. My wife's like, can you just like, I don't have a better system. I'm like, no, it's either me having all these everywhere or a bloated farting husband choose here's the deal i'm the exact same way with you are with your lactate with my chapstick i have a chapstick everywhere like by the kitchen sink next to my bed next to my sink in the bathroom in my car in my purse on my desk here i mean like i am always within reach of a chapstick so i completely get that okay so had it or hit it i'm interested to hear what you have to say on this?

54:25Tucker Carlson. I've had it. Tucker Carlson, much like Marjorie Taylor Greene, is a creature reinventing himself. He is America first. He is a racist. He has promoted all the horrific anti-Semitic conspiracies. And going back to a really good point that you made about Marjorie Taylor Greene and a warning for Democrats, Angie, I've been saying it. They listen to you. They won't listen to me. Folks, do not underestimate Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nick Fuentes, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens. I've been saying it for months. They're moving further to the left on Democrats on two issues, Israel and the elite, the establishment.

55:00And what they're playing for is as MAGA crumbles, they're going to reassemble MAGA as America first and bring in the independents of young people and dissidents around Israel. And you think I'm being crazy. I can't tell you, Angie, how many WhatsApps I'm in every day. I want to bang my head against the wall. were smart, informed people, because people take their, you know, lower information voters, not stupid, but they get clips. Look at Tucker. Look what he said on Israel. I think he's changing. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who would have thought, and we live in the United States of amnesia, and just like that, they get rehabilitated.

55:33Snakes. It's worrisome. It is worrisome that, like, Nick Fuentes has, we play him on here so that we're telling people, like, he says this, and it sounds really rational, and then the next thing he says is kill everybody, but what? You know, it doesn't say kill, but like get rid of everybody. Remigrate. Remigrate. Do you know that it is on the Department of Homeland Security, remigrate the word? They've been using it over and over. Three times. It's unbelievable. And people are so ignorant. They don't know what that means. It's a Nazi term. It's a Nazi term, folks. Nazi term. That means ethnic cleansing.

56:11That means removing all people of color and the enemies of the state from Europe and America. Three times they've tweeted it. It's and of course, you know, it's such a crazy news cycle. We can't even talk about that. Okay. Two more. The arc de Trump.

56:28Had it, you know, just trash. Like, what can we say? Vegas trash, Timo Reno trash. Like, can't this guy, can't this guy just retire and play golf and sleep with his mini stroke mouth? and I'm not making fun of people with stroke, but it's clearly, have you seen when he sleeps? Oh yeah. His mouth droops, like you're dying. You have cankles. We know, we see it, we see it. We see it, what is Jen called? McTaco tits. All the makeup in the world can't hide it. You're bloated. You're a carcass, you're a decaying carcass. Just stop, stop being a festering wound and just die with grace, you know, die honorably.

57:12But he can't even do that. He can't do that because he couldn't live honorably. That man has no fucking honor whatsoever. Okay. How did her hit it? CBS News. I've had it with CBS News. The Ellisons, by the way, Larry Ellison, the largest private donor to Israel, a huge Trump supporter, a huge Netanyahu supporter, his Nepo baby David Ellison gobbles up Paramount CBS. Now they want to gobble up Warner Brothers, CNN, openly saying, oh, yeah, Trump, you think CNN needs to be reformed? We'll reform it. Then overpays Barry Weiss,$150 million, talking about mediocrity rising to the top. And she Fs up and destroys CBS in less than a month.

57:53You and I are old enough, and we're going to be the last generation, Angie, that remembers that CBS actually had quality journalists, the home of Cronkite, Murrow, and just like that, destroyed it. It's ruined. It's like it's turning into Fox News 2.0. Okay, last one. How did her hit it, the United States of America? Ooh. Ooh, had it and hid it. I have to love a country that doesn't love me back. Oftentimes, not always, women, people of color, and those who weren't seen as white, because the Irish and Italians weren't seen as white, have to fight for a country that doesn't fight for us. But I was born and raised here.

58:30My children are here. They're brown-skinned, beautiful, have multi-syllabic names. And with the time that we have left with our life, you can either be apathetic and cynical, which I think is cheap or lazy, or you can be in the ring and hope, in my opinion, is an action. It's a verb. So even though we might get a bloody nose, we have to do our best to stretch this country and expand it and make it live up to its proposed vision that it sells to the rest of the world. So that's where I've had it, but that's where I also hit it. Yeah, we've got to fight for it. It's not great. It's not perfect, but we've got to get it back.

59:06We've got to get it back. Thank you so much for coming. I have to tell you this. I've been holding on to it this whole time. you're way too cute to drive a minivan. I had a girlfriend. She was super cute. You're just too cute to drive a minivan. What should I drive instead? I got like eight or a kid. We get a little SUV. I know you've got three kids. You can tune them around. But I mean, I immediately hate anyone behind a minivan because I know they're screaming at their kids, which I did in the Suburban. And my ex-husband always wanted me to get a minivan. I was like, I'm way too fucking cute to drive a minivan.

59:40And so I'm gonna give you the same thing. You're too cute for a midi van. Like I said before, we'll end it on a positive note where we make allies, where we at least expect it. Women above the age of, white women above the age of 50, my demographic with fantastic taste. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Can you please tell this to my wife? And she's like, yeah, yeah, whatever. But you know, I bought my wife, when I sold the book, we had a little bit of money. I bought my wife the nice car and I was the one who chose to drive the minivan. You know what that is? You know what they call that? An alpha male.

1:00:17That's what they call it. All right. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming on. It's we're going to have to keep these discussions going. We've got the Pollyanna and me cynic. Pragmatist, pragmatist. Pragmatist. Oh, my final question is, are you friends with Kylie? Because I think she's like the coolest person, like her style or her hair. yeah isn't kylie like the coolest person ever yeah she is the coolest person ever nicest she's the most confident she's nothing good things can be said about i just see your style kylie and i i said this like to my wife i'm like she was like what are you talking about she's like there's a producer and she like exudes style and i wish i was as stylish as her because i go to the mall i start sweating profusely you put me in front of like a thousand people i'll give a speech But you say watch, shop and be stylish, I'll just cry.

1:01:06I'll suck my thumb and I cry. And that's why I want Kylie to be my friend because she just seems like understated, too cool for school, but nice and like with a cool style. So this was just me asking, this is me being the dorky kid at school saying, can I sit with you at lunch? A hundred percent. And I'll just say it for Angie and Jen, you can come back a few times. Yes, we want to have you back more. And we've got a lot of work to do between now and the midterms. Lots of work. Thanks all. Thank you. And we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.

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