Panic at the White House

29:22We do have some great breaking news from yesterday. We're going to host the New Year's Eve countdown for the Midwest Central Standard Time. So book your hotels right now. You got to be in the city of Chicago to ring in the new year. That's awesome. I do want to share with you a headline I thought was hilarious. Kylie, pop this up. Confused Trump, 79, demands troop deployment over fictional shopping center. It says the aging president raged about the Miracle Mile and claimed it was, quote, once considered one of our nation's best. I think the only problem is there isn't a Miracle Mile shopping center in Chicago.

30:09So this poor man, he has dementia. Clearly, nobody really talks about it. He's so frail in appearance now, and he often gets confused. But he's trying to put you and your city and your constituents at the epicenter of this. And one lie he continues to say all the time is there are these black women all over Chicago wearing MAGA hats. And I've never seen that. And I'm just wondering, as you go around in your city or to a cookout or two, do you see a swath of black women wearing MAGA hats? No, perhaps they're on this miracle mile fantasy block that he was referencing. So maybe we have to do that.

30:52I'm going to have my administration fully investigate where this miracle mile is. And perhaps he can, you know, we'll find a bunch of black women just rolling around in MAGA gear. It sounds like a nightmare, by the way. You know, look, you know, we have always been, you know, for the alt-right in this country, a punching bag. Right. And, you know, it was Ronald Reagan that declared war on American cities as well at the time in which we had the first black mayor in the history of Chicago mayor here at Washington. You know, this is right out of the playbook of those who are really attacking working people.

31:28Our values are very clear. You know, we're a strong working class city. You know, the labor movement birthright here in the city of Chicago. And when you think about even electing the first black president of the United States of America, if Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr. does not run on single payer and building a rainbow coalition, you do not get that historic moment in 2008. So, you know, look, we have an incredible diverse city, an economy that is growing and evolving every single day. And being a part of the labor movement as a public school teacher raised in a household with nine siblings in one bathroom.

32:07It is truly the honor and joy of my life to be able to represent what I call the greatest city in the world. I was going to ask you when this whole thing about sending troops to American cities, it was not lost on me that the cities chosen by the administration had black mayors and a black population center. Can you talk about that, how that felt as a leader for your community? And because Chicago is so diverse, do you believe that you were chosen and your city was chosen for that reason? I think it's obvious, you know, I mean, when you think about it, whether it's, you know, Mayor Bass in Los Angeles or Mayor Brandon Scott in Baltimore, you know, Mayor Young in Memphis, you know, many of the cities that were, you know, targeted from day one have black leaders.

33:01And, you know, as a proud black leader and a progressive who comes out of the labor movement, who understands the values of working people, you know, it wasn't lost on me that this administration, the president, the president of the United States of America has been intentional about dividing our, our, our, our politics in a way that is just so vicious. Right. And I think, you know, you're alluding to this earlier. I mean, you know, Donald Trump is such a brittle man. And when people are insecure, you know, they hide behind these positions of power without any real true substance. The difference here in Chicago is that we hold to our values and we don't flinch.

33:41We don't bow. We don't cower. We don't break. We're not intimidated by what he is doing. In fact, I put forth the budget that literally protects Chicagoans from Donald Trump's cuts. Right. So, yeah, I mean, it's clear that, you know, this president has done things like, you know, we we secured two billion dollars. from the federal government to extend our public transportation line to go farther south where many black families reside. That fight has been going on for 50 years. So a year ago, we finally secured it. I'm 49, just to give you some context. And so we secured it. And then President Trump withheld it because he didn't want it to go to a community that would have benefited from this investment, while at the same time, you know, writing a blank check, you know, to Argentina, at least$20 billion and counting.

34:31You know, so we know that the intentional attacks that are coming from the Trump administration and the extreme right in this country has very much been what I call is it's an attempt to relitigate the Civil War. Right. They have not accepted the results that the North actually won. Right. Because if you look at all of the attacks, it's not just black cities. He's going after education, housing, transportation, good paying jobs and health care. Those are literally the five demands of descendants of slaves post civil war. So it's evident that they are not committed to actually realizing the full dream of what this country can offer.

35:06And that's public good, public service to benefit everyone. it. And it seems like the attacks on blue cities have been, you mentioned they go back to Reagan. There has been a long, decades-long propaganda aimed at blue cities, which you can't really name a successful red city. It simply doesn't exist. And I'm just putting that out there. But I think it's because the enemy of white supremacy is multiculturalism. In order to live in a city, you have to be able to cooperate and it takes cooperation. And the cooperation means you cooperate with people of a different religion, a different gender, a different sexuality, a different skin color.

35:52And these people are your neighbors and you have to communicate together non-verbally or verbally to walk across the street. And this really hurts their desire to preserve the structures that have benefited them so much, where they have received affirmative of action. And instead, they flip the script and propagandize that somehow these people in blue cities are trying to milk off of them. When the reality is, it's the people that don't live in blue cities that get the benefits of all the hard work that goes into the blue cities that then ricochets to the places that don't pay as much in taxes.

36:31And the Democrats have done a really bad job messaging that. That is not something that has been messaged. Democrats govern, but don't message. And as a party leader right now, and I think we can look to you and Pritzker and the newly elected, new to be sworn in, Zoran Mamdani for new progressive leadership in our party. How do you see the party moving forward as it pertains to governing while messaging at the same time? Look, you're absolutely right. I mean, about the, you know, your analysis and quite frankly, you know, I believe a loving critique of the party. You know, you know, you have people who come into these offices in these spaces, and we believe that just because we're doing the work, that that's going to automatically translate into people feeling or experiencing what that work has been designed to do.

37:22And that's why, you know, podcasts, or in my case, we call them lakeside chats in Chicago. That's a play off of, of course, the lake versus is a fireside chat where I take the message directly to the community. It's something that I learned early in my administration that we didn't do enough of that. We have to talk to people and engage with people around our why. It's not just about what we're doing, it's why we're doing it. So that's thing one. We have to stay engaged. I come out of the organizing apparatus as a labor organizer, as a community organizer. That's how you continue to build movement.

37:56But the second thing is we have to stay true to our values. Look, I fought Democrats in Chicago, Democrats who privatize our education system, shut down public schools, shut down public housing, shut down mental and behavioral health care services. I'm the first mayor since Mayor Harry Washington to actually invest in public mental health. Right. And it's about making sure that we're challenging even within our own party, which gets at the last part of your question. You know, what do we do and what do we say in this moment and how do we build off the success that we had a couple of Tuesdays ago?

38:29We have to demand in this country the ultra rich to pay their fair share in taxes. We saw the largest upward transfer of wealth into the hands of a few people, these large corporations and billionaires than we've seen in any other time in the history of Chicago, in the history of the country, right? And so now, you know, we're literally in the midst of working through what Justice Brandes warned us of almost a century ago, more than a century ago, that you can either have a democracy or wealth concentrated into the hands of the few. But he said we cannot have both. And so in this moment, if our democracy is going to survive, if our humanity is going to be protected, as Democrats, those of us who are fighting, at least some of us are fighting, others ostensibly fighting for working people, We have to demand that the public services, the public institutions have to be in the hands of the public.

39:27And we have to demand these millionaires. And now we're literally on the brink of having trillionaires. They have to pay their fair share. If we do not do that, our democracy, our economy will not be sustainable if we as Democrats don't stand up and make sure that we're literally fighting for the interests of everyday working people. Don't you feel like with what just happened with the government shutdown, I know I felt this, that MAGA is going to do what MAGA is going to do. It's not the MAGA movement isn't necessarily true. They're just less polite about it now. MAGA is the Republican Party the same as it was during Bush, both Bushes and Reagan.

40:12They're just a lot more in your face about it. They're a lot more overt with their racism instead of covert. And they're just, you know, just complete dicks about most of it. So I expect all of that from them. But the Democratic Party, I have a higher standard for. And when I see these centrist Democrats, and I call them pick-me Democrats because they're too scared to make anybody mad. And so they just kind of say, oh, pick me. I'll be agreeable on this, agreeable on that. I feel like at this moment, when in your city, you had men in masks, kidnapping people, denying due process in a Supreme Court that says, yes, you can racially profile people, that this is serious, that this is as serious as it gets.

40:59And if somebody can't fight, and I'm talking about the eight that voted with Republicans to reopen the government, and Schumer, who behind the scenes gave his blessing, that the most patriotic and best thing we can do as progressive Democrats is hold their feet to the fire. Because this centrist Democrat, pick me, we don't want to upset anybody, we're going to govern incrementally, has made us all less safe. And the Constitution is hanging in the balance. Yeah, look, you're spot on here. I mean, it reminds me of words that the writer, Gary Young wrote about 10, 15 years ago, where he essentially said that Jim Crow had a son.

41:42And instead of wearing their sheets out in public, they display the same value system of those who believed solely in white supremacy. In fact, it was President Biden who, at the commencement speech at Howard University a couple of years ago, he said, the greatest threat to our democracy is white supremacy. Now, we can have another conversation about the former President Biden, but I think to your point, let's not act like the Republican Party that exists today is one that was formed when President Trump was sworn in. And that's why I made the early reference to Ronald Reagan. You know, there's been an extreme, you know, shift to the right in this country for a very long time.

42:29I can tell you, you know, though I was young, you know, my father lived and worked during the Reaganomics era. And I can tell you, I know what it's like to open up a refrigerator and there's no food in it, you know, or our water bill, you know, got behind. Or we had an extension cord from our home to our neighbor's home just to make sure that there was some electricity. And my father worked hard every day and the ends didn't meet. Like that's the real struggle that, you know, families have had over the course of decades. You know, Dr. Keene described it as one of the evils, right? Between militarism to your reference earlier about masked men with long guns, sticking them into the faces of families to poverty, right?

43:14And it's incumbent upon us as Democrats, particularly those of us who understand the daily struggle of working people in this country, we cannot capitulate or somehow believe that if we play nice with these individuals, that somehow they're going to, you know, through the goodness of their hearts and through benevolence, that they're going to decide to take on racism and poverty. They have never demonstrated that they're willing to do that. In fact, what's so disheartening, and I've had these conversations with Reverend Jackson before, you know, when he was a little bit stronger, when he took his message all over the country, whether it was in our urban centers or Appalachia or rural America, the struggle, collective struggle for working people, that's the one that is really going to help strengthen and defend this democracy.

43:59And you have too many weak Democrats that believe if you play nice with individuals who are literally clearly breaking the rules, that somehow that group is going to understand the struggle that I went through and other families like mine. It's nonsense. Right. And so that's why I'm working hard every single day to continue to show up for working people, investing in education, investing in transportation. We have reopened mental health clinics in Chicago. We're hiring thousands of young people, not just for summer jobs, but year round, because I know what it's like when I got my first summer check.

44:33Guess who got it? My mother, because it had to go into the larger pot for the family. Those are the day to day experiences of working people that somehow some of these pick me Democrats, which, by the way, I'm totally using that. Democrats who want to be picked, but they don't want to serve. They don't want to serve everyday working people. They're more interested in serving the interests of the ultra rich in this country versus everyday working class people. That's a problem. And that's actually what we're going to have to do as Democrats is not capitulate, but to double down on our efforts to ensure that the rights, the human rights of every single person, housing, education, transportation, jobs and health care, that that becomes a guarantee and not a chance.

45:16One thing I've been watching extremely closely, first of all, I love in your press conferences that you will call out a reporter if they call somebody an illegal. I love that because they've just successfully dehumanized so many people. But the border, the border agents, Bovino, I think, is the leader. And you have a judge that brought his ass in every day and exposed lie after lie, which coming from that agency under Trump and Christina, who killed her kid's dog. I completely believe it. But they lie about what's actually happening. and you keep us in the know with your press conference was what's the latest on the border agents in Chicago and Bovino in particular I saw yesterday they're taking pictures that like the bean I mean it's just unbelievable it really is I mean like the moment they stoop to a low you just you don't want to get too close just because how low they will go there's just no end I mean, and, you know, I said this yesterday at the press conference or two days ago.

46:26You know, there are some gruesome images that we have studied and we have witnessed throughout America's history. As a former social studies teacher, I taught seventh grade primarily and eighth graders, taught a year high school. And that photo just reminded me of photos that we've seen in the past and how grotesque, how insensitive, how inhumane those photos are. And, you know, I like to refer to him as barbaric Bovino, right? I mean, here's someone who just seems not to have an ounce of sense whatsoever or any level of dignity. when he was brought in before the federal judge, you know, instead of getting dropped off in front of the courthouse or even going in, you know, the back way, he wanted to make a big spectacle of it.

47:16So he was dropped off a block away, paraded down the streets in Chicago, began to get these just awful, these salutes. I mean, it's, it's, it's the, the, to be in the midst of this right now, this terror that is coming from the Trump administration and all of his henchmen and women, it reminds me of how sensitive and delicate our democracy is and why we have to have fortitude and strength in this moment to not cower or break or bend, you know. And so, you know, it's awful to see. Let's just name it for what it is. It's racist. And, you know, it's why I've even called for the United Nations to come to the city of Chicago, the Human Rights Council, to see how, you know, the Trump administration is impacting Chicagoans and Americans.

48:08People are going hungry. They're going without homes. They're being terrorized in their own communities. And the fact that ICE, that their budget is only second or third to the United States military or China's military, right? This is Donald Trump's privatized police force that has run amok. And Bovino has, has, has, you know, clearly worked and, and, and what I've seen, you know, outside of the parameters of, of, of the law. And the hope is that at least that our judicial system continues to show some level of accountability, because going back to two questions ago, that accountability certainly is not coming from Congress right now.

48:48No, it is not coming from Congress. And we all know that Moses Mike Johnson has completely eliminated his co-equal branch and has completely abdicated it to Trump. The Supreme Court is disappointing beyond yesterday or a few days ago. This will air in a couple of days. They agreed not to hear the gay marriage, which, you know, sometimes assholes have moments of clarity, I guess. But these are really, really dangerous times. And what I see is the through line through all of these things that we're talking about is bigotry and bigotry towards the poor, bigotry towards people of color, anti-immigrant bigotry.

49:36I've seen a huge rise in sexism, a huge call on the right to overturn the 19th Amendment. Let me just tell you, as two female podcasters, the Internet is not a safe space for us to be in. The threats, death threats, threats of sexual violence are constant. And it's a really weird phenomenon because I think, well, this is a pretty serious message. I should probably send that to the FBI. But when you think about who's running the FBI, we're in very, very precarious position. Which brings me to my question to you, which has to do with where the Democratic Party is and our inability to message. And I recently moved to New York and was really excited for Zoran Mamdani.

50:21And towards the closing of his candidacy, of his race, the Islamophobic attacks on him were just so horrible, a lot of which coming from Democrats and or Democrats didn't stand up and defend him. Now, Mom Donnie may be further left than Kathy Hochul, but she stood up for him and stood up against those attacks. And I see some people in the Democratic Party that are beholden to AIPAC that did not stand up for him in the face of bigotry. And we have to be the party that is the anti-bigotry party. And we have to acknowledge that all of this bigotry is linked. Racism is linked to sexism, is linked to anti-Semitism, is linked to Islamophobia, is linked to homophobia.

51:13And none of us are safe until all of us are safe. And I just think it's really interesting that there are members of our party in leadership positions that take donations from a lobby that paid the same amount of money that Elon Musk did to get Donald Trump elected. I'm talking about AIPAC,$330,$350 million they gave him to get him elected. How can they be morally clear about bigotry or about anti-Semitism or Islamophobia if they're taking money from the people who spiked the deal that Biden had for the ceasefire? And I just think we have a real problem brewing in the party right now. And I think it's going to take leaders like you, Pritzker, names that maybe aren't top of the fold every day to rise up this new democratic progressivism that leaves no one behind and refuses to demonize the poor and starts messaging our values and how all of this bigotry is connected unless you're a rich white man.

52:19Otherwise, you're not safe. Look, I want to drop this mic on your behalf. I mean, I don't want to just like reduce it to a monologue because I think it's actually more of a manifesto in terms of offering up a real direction here. And, you know, as you know, to hear both of you speak with so much moral clarity, it's encouraging, quite frankly, breathtaking. And it's exactly what we need. And as a husband, as someone who is raising a daughter, to know that there are women out there who are taking such a bold stance, even in the face of adversity and threat. It's not lost on me of your courage. And in fact, you know, I share this with other people when we're talking about the most marginalized groups.

53:11It's amazing how people believe that their life position is going to be threatened because someone else is now protected under the Constitution. It's like like civil rights would just ruin the rights of white people. That didn't happen. Right. It's not like gay marriage ended mine. Right. It's like immigrants are not taking your job. The corporate greed is taking jobs, right? And so there's always this idea that somehow if we work on behalf of the most marginalized people, that somehow other folks are going to lose. And that's just not the case. And so I believe you're absolutely right in everything that you said, that when it comes to defending our humanity, that is something that should draw us near to one another.

53:58That's how I was raised. So I look, honestly, so my father was a pastor. My grandfather is a pastor. My grandfather didn't even allow politicians in his pulpit. May he rest in peace, but I'm sure he is over that his grandson has called for the legalization of marijuana. And I think that sex workers should be unionized. So, you know, someone who comes out of the fundamentalist black church. But I think the larger point is, is that there are people groups that have been harmed over the course of decades and centuries. And it's incumbent upon this generation. And if we see ourselves as the party that champions working people or as my father preached, when you do unto the least of these, you do it unto him.

54:39And so that's what I live by, you know, as a proud, progressive Christian, you know, who believes that, you know, our religion should not be used as a weapon to marginalize and to harm people. Our nation and our nation's position and prowess should not be used as a way to circumvent universal humanitarian rights. rights, right? And so I'm even in the midst of all of this, to get back to your original statement within your presentation, was what happened in New York, what happened in Virginia, and, you know, what happened in New Jersey, and, you know, we picked up some seats in Mississippi. My family, you know, came up from Salas, Mississippi during the second migration to know that there are people who are organizing in red states and turning counties and smaller cities blue or more progressive, that gives me hope.

55:37And I think that the party would do itself a favor if it would relinquish its reluctance or their tendency to cling to the stereotypical face of power, which is a white Protestant man. And that, by the way, I've seen more horrific examples of that manifestation of leadership than someone who is Muslim, right? Or someone who is gay, right? And so I do find strength and encouragement in this season, knowing that what Mamdani ran on and what he will govern on around affordability, we're doing that in Chicago, where we're building more affordable homes, up to 10 ,000 by the end of my first term. And we're doing it in pockets of the city that have been historically disinvested in.

56:29And as a result of our investments, you know, we have seen a decline in homicides, 30 % reduction. Shootings are down 35%. Shooting victims are down 35%. Vehicular carjackings down almost 50%. A lot more work to be done. But I am proof positive that a progressive working class person can lead a major city and all hell doesn't break loose. In fact, we've seen the opposite in our beloved city, that life is improving for so many people. And that's the hope that I'm going to cling to. And that's the hope that we saw a couple of Tuesdays ago. It's because you're not a pick me, Mayor. That's why you're fighting for the game.

57:06I'm certainly not a pick me, Mayor. In fact, when I announced my candidacy, you know, October of 2022, too. I was pulling at 2.2%. My senior advisor looked at me is like, look, man, we've done this before. I'm like, look, like we have about 56 more percentage points to gain between now and election day. And in fact, Donnie said the same thing. Oh, absolutely. But people are starving for this. That's absolutely right. And I'm humbled by all of this because the elevators that are held for me right now as mayor were the very elevators that I took an arrest in front of. You know, some of the politicians who are looking to score political points who have political aspiration, you know, I was on a hunger strike to keep schools open in the city of Chicago, right?

58:00And so it's that type of drive, the experience that I had growing up in a working class family, the experience that I had teaching in our public schools, the experience that I had organizing in communities across the city, that's the reference and the framework that I bring to this position. And that's what people are in desperate need for is someone who is someones, you know, who are willing to connect with the day-to-day experience of pretty much all of us and then lead with those convictions. Listener, the hot book of the summer. take two listener the hot book of the summer is now the cool book of the fall it is in trump's america i can tell you with absolute certainty the best book that has ever been written and believe me a lot of people are talking about it everybody's talking about it everybody's talking about it it took us one day to write it because we're on day one because we took a cognitive test and it was book, write, done.

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59:27All right. Now we're going to play our game with you. We're having fun. It's called had it or hit it. So I'm going to name something and if you like it, you're going to say I'll hit that. And if you don't like it, you'll say had it. Let me just let my sometimes white men have a hard time with the hit it part. I was going to say as a male, this ought to be good. So hopefully that my political career does not end on this podcast. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. Had it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Had it or hit it, ketchup on hot dogs. Had it. Yeah, that one, that's bad.

1:00:08I have this really bad joke. I think it's good though. So now that the Pope is from Chicago, to put ketchup on a hot dog is now a cardinal sin.

1:00:20It's pretty good. All right. All right. Got it. Had it or hit it, Chicago winters. Oh, man. Yeah, we have to hit it. Yeah. Look, you can't be in Chicago and be afraid of the winter. I agree. I mean, I think if you're going to live there, you got to man up. It's like, here's something. I'll give you some advice. Get a coat.

1:00:45Okay. Had it or hit it, legacy and or corporate media. Oh, my gosh. Oh, man. That's easy. Had it. Had it. Nailed it. Nailed it. Yeah. They suck. It's, you know, the capitulation across the board, Mayor, from law firms to universities to oligarchs to the media. Pams and I talk about all the time. I'm like, you know, there's never been a bigger advertisement against being a billionaire than the humiliation exercise that you, you've never, you haven't flown commercial in decades and you have to make some bullshit trophy and march it into the oval office, which looks like Marie Antoinette threw up in and give it to this frail, demented man and humiliate yourself.

1:01:33That's not freedom. That is not freedom. It is a walking, talking advertisement against billionaires, which brings me to my next one. Had it or hit it, billionaires.

1:01:46Had it. Had it. I agree. They're proving to be like that. I had a guest on a couple of weeks ago named Emma Vigelin with the minority report, majority, minority, majority report. Anyway, she said she feels like once people become billionaires, they get a kind of psychosis. And when she said that, I thought, God, that makes sense because they all seem so crazy. Afraid, like somehow like their billions is just going to disappear. You know, even though like right now, you know, people are literally being disappeared in this country. And, you know, there was a debate whether or not billionaires should even exist.

1:02:26And now we're about to have trillionaires. So had it. And let's talk about how what late stage capitalism that is. you do a Sig Heil, you make the ugliest truck ever made on the planet and your board of directors gives you a trillion dollars. I'm sorry, but like this, that is some late stage effed up capitalism. If I've ever seen it, that's nuts. It is. And it's one of those things like as a parent, so like I've accepted things for my children and it's like a good duty as a dad, if there's something that they think is cute and I'm sure every parent has had it. And you know, you have that child that makes something for you, they want to cook something for you and they bring it in.

1:03:06And it's just like, you feel like you have to like it. That's what I feel like that's happening right now with the, um, you know, corporate media and billionaires and trillionaires. Is this like, there's almost like they feel like they're, they're acting like if they're forced to actually accept something, even though it was trash. And I just want my kids who are watching this one day, all of the gifts that you gave to me were not trash. And I have them restored somewhere in the attic. Okay, Mayor, last one. Had it or hit it, the United States of America. Oh, listen, hey, listen, it's still, I believe, the best place on the planet.

1:03:42So let's hit it. But it's got to be a place that works for everyone and not just the ultra rich. I completely agree. And I think we probably have a mutual friend. Pamsa and I are from Oklahoma City. And Mayor David Holt is a very good friend of ours. And I'm sure you've probably worked with that tall man before. And he is lovely. And I think that he illustrates, as do you, that mayors do some of the most important work in this country. Absolutely. The U.S. Conference of Mayors across this country has done, I believe, a real fine job at getting that message out. Look, it's the American cities that make up continents.

1:04:22And whether it's here in North America or Central or South America or around the globe. It's the cities where the rubber meets the road. It's where people expect government to work. And that's why I'm truly honored to really serve what I believe is the global capital of the world, the greatest freak city in the world, the city of Chicago. I love it. Mayor, thank you so much. I do too. I just feel like you bonded. It was a great episode. So I can't thank you enough. And the next time we're in Chicago, we'll hit you up so we can talk about what we've had it with. Okay, for sure. I'll definitely look forward to it.

1:04:56And just as a quick one, maybe we should talk about these oversized NBA players who can dribble and shoot from the perimeter like that. I'm not necessarily a fan of. I remember the days where tall men had to like stay down low. What we're seeing now with people like Wimby, these oversized centers who can take jump shots from 35 feet out. I'm a little concerned about that. So maybe we can have that as part of our conversation. conversation these meta human beings we should and we'll also talk about thunder versus bulls go thunder baby oh come on come on go bulls love you all keep up the great work really proud of you all and i'm just grateful to the attention that you're bringing to so many people and especially the people who have been stuffed in the margins for generations people are coming out in a way that i believe is going to help transform our democracy as we know it it's not going to return to what it was, we're going to make it better than what it was.

1:05:54And because of you two, I'm certainly inspired and encouraged by it. Likewise. Thank you, Mayor. Have a great day. All right. Bye-bye. Bye. I just really like him a lot. I like him so much. I just feel like we need to just platform these politicians that have moral clarity that there wasn't any word salad. He stood up for everybody. He had clarity about how rigged the system is. He had clarity about bigotry. He had clarity about how the system is rigged for white people. And there's an effort to uphold white supremacy. And so many people we know, pumps that we grew up around would discredit him immediately once he starts speaking as a race hustler and would diminish him because of the color of his skin.

1:06:42So every chance we have an opportunity to partner with somebody who really fought for his people as a great, wonderful politician that makes you, you know, politicians now, nowadays have that like, ugh feeling. The Mom Donnies, this guy, others that, you know, Jasmine Croghett, they make you feel like, okay, they're fighting for something. Yeah. They're authentic. And they get it. Two things that really stuck with me when he said people are not, they haven't accepted the results of the civil war. I'm like, he's a hundred percent right. A hundred percent right. I mean, we're still fighting about that.

1:07:21And then I loved that he used his faith, which you see far and away more in black churches to fight for the marginalized and to stand up for people versus the white evangelical churches that otherize people and judge people. So those, those two things really stood out to me from him. There is a, you know, a link between the KKK and modern day white evangelicals all the way to mega churches. And there is a component in black evangelical churches of social justice is really in that. But I think what he was saying towards the end of that is he's even evolved beyond the confines of his religion to accept trans people, to try to unionize sex workers, to legalize marijuana.

1:08:11And so I think the key lesson to that is whenever you hear somebody, a politician, a religion, a billionaire, talk about things in very rigid terms and we're not open to the evolution and the flow and the progress of things, that's a problem. So what a great story his is from being a very rigid, black, fundamentalist church, Christian style upbringing. And he has evolved through his own faith to become more open minded and more open minded. And that really is the key. And that's the enemy of all of the things that these fascists want to conserve and preserve. And so I like that he has evolved his faith and talks about because there is a lot of homophobia and marginalization even within the black churches.

1:09:05And so you see these progressives coming out and taking the social justice teachings of MLK and evolving even more to to link, like I said, all of those human rights, because I truly believe they're all linked. And I think a lot of people in the Democratic Party are dangerously prioritizing anti-Semitism over all of the others instead of linking them. Because prioritizing one is only going to make those people less safe. And so you have to be against bigotry across the board. I completely agree. Kylie, put your camera up. Look at what she's just put on, you guys. What did I put on? Oh, Kylie. I can see her on the back end.

1:09:51Kangol's McTaco tits. Also, I have an update on your hat at Jen. I reached out to my brother who's a commercial pilot and he said, it's the pilot's fault. They're supposed to check it 15 to 20 minutes before passengers load. Do you mean to tell me when I sat at LAX for 10 hours and the pilots were on that plane for at least six hooting and hollering that they could have checked that plane and I could, that bird could have gotten in there. I'm furious. I tried to give them an out. you did i really tried yeah you know what i might start doing i you know what i might pumps do it because she's more she's a better karen than i am because i ride her karen coattails perhaps the next time we're flying together i'm going to have you get on the plane and just go ahead and poke your head in the cockpit have you guys already done all the checks we're not doing all the checks we don't need maintenance every everything's working we checked that before the passengers came right okay you've already done a check right okay i'm just checking have you done a check and if say no you can be like what the fuck you have us all on here for then why why are we on if you haven't done a check why wasn't this done before the passengers got on wouldn't that make more sense wouldn't that be more efficient there she said i will ride that karen coattail here's what i do listener she'll do something like that and then the person looks back at me and i'm like but i'm sorry but on the inside i'm like god she's just getting them yeah okay i fixed a microphone problem during the episode all by myself.

1:11:11So hello, technical guru. Excellent. All right. We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. All right. Bye everyone.

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