In short
The episode is a rant-heavy discussion by the “America’s Top DEI” mother-daughter duo (Jennifer and Pumps) about accountability, healthcare customer-survey harassment, and political/cultural grievances.
Key claims
the U.S. lacks accountability (people excuse bad behavior instead of apologizing); post-appointment patient surveys (especially after pap smears and mammograms) feel like “torture” and don’t meaningfully improve care; Turning Point USA’s Young Women’s Leadership Summit promotes “trad wife” infantilization and religious/purity-based sexism; MAGA supporters often use insults/semantics instead of policy; and leaving bagged dog poop on trails is pointless.
Notable examples
repeated pap-smear survey emails after a recent appointment; TSA “swamp crotch” triggering alarms; a passenger with a bright red crotch at an Oklahoma City airport; the “MRS degree” messaging at conservative events; commenters threatening jobs/Medicaid; and listener stories about online hypocrisy and dog-poop bagging.
Guests
no traditional guests; multiple listener voice notes/read-ins (Katie/Gaytriot Garrett, Cameron, Will, Will’s and others) plus the hosts’ own segment guests (e.g., “Pumps” and “Kylie/Kiki” referenced as co-hosts/characters).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Mother-Daughter Confusion
0:46 to 2:09
Discussion about a mix-up regarding their identities at a store.
“daughter that's that's originally what she told us and then callie said no the mother the the manager came up to me and said, are you guys mother daughter?”
Accountability in Society
2:16 to 4:51
Exploration of the lack of accountability in American society.
“However, considering that I'm the daughter in this scenario, I'm tickled pink.”
The Torture of Post-Service Surveys
4:52 to 7:19
Critique of receiving surveys after medical appointments, particularly pap smears.
“All right, I'm going to shift gears a little bit with my grievance.”
Capitalism and Healthcare Surveys
7:20 to 10:11
Discussion on how capitalism influences healthcare feedback processes.
“And I don't know that if that's not on some kind of software, because I get that with when I go to the doctor, like before I'm even out of the exam room, I'm getting a survey.”
Customer Service and AI Experiences
10:12 to 11:25
Sharing experiences with customer service interactions and AI responses.
“I did have an issue with a flight the other day.”
Listener Feedback and Reviews
11:35 to 14:01
Reading and discussing listener feedback and connections to their content.
“We have Kiki the Magic, lesbian who just right before we started this, my mother called her Katie.”
Book Discussion and Promotion
14:01 to 16:39
The hosts discuss their new book and its relatable themes.
“I actually have a DM that I'm going to read you.”
Book Discussion and Promotion
16:49 to 17:33
The hosts discuss their new book and its relatable themes.
“In fact, nearly half of all RHO members have insurance coverage.”
Swamp Crotch and TSA Experiences
17:59 to 28:05
The hosts share humorous stories and insights about personal grooming and TSA experiences.
“I would like to share with the class today.”
Cultural Perspectives on Sexuality
28:05 to 29:01
Exploring varying cultural attitudes toward sexual practices and virginity.
“No, mom, like people that want to stay virgins, they just have sex in the ass.”
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The Dangers of Financial Dependence
29:01 to 30:23
Discussing the risks of being financially dependent on a partner.
“Yeah, and the MRS degree is a very real thing and a very talked about thing, especially within my sorority.”
Boycotting Mega Churches
30:23 to 31:38
Arguments for boycotting mega churches and their societal impacts.
“And then you have no exit strategy because then you have to sacrifice yourself so that your kids are safe and secure.”
Listener Petty Grievances
31:38 to 32:36
Reading listener submissions about grievances and controversial topics.
Raising Pets and Narcissism
32:36 to 34:27
Humorous take on how the hosts perceive their dogs as narcissistic.
“I think I'm going to call out some possible hypocrisy here.”
Political Hypocrisy and Consequences
34:27 to 36:23
Discussions on political issues and the consequences faced by supporters.
“Like Jennifer and I literally, we get asked all the time, like, what are your photos?”
Political Hypocrisy and Consequences
40:48 to 41:50
Discussions on political issues and the consequences faced by supporters.
“Could it be because it has a sleek, spam-free site or the most in-depth school info?”
Comment Section Rage
42:01 to 42:54
Will shares frustrations about political arguments in comment sections.
The Toxicity of Online Arguments
42:54 to 45:31
Discussion on the futility and toxicity of online political debates.
“It's just always semantics with them or ad hominem attacks.”
Fashion and the MAGA Movement
45:31 to 47:55
Exploring the impact of the MAGA movement on fashion and public perception.
“They won't type out their rights of white supremacy.”
Plastic Waste vs. Natural Decomposition
47:55 to 49:44
Debate on the irresponsibility of leaving dog waste in plastic bags.
“The screen printing is not of a good quality.”
Dog Poop Misadventures
49:44 to 53:10
Humorous anecdotes about dealing with dog poop during walks.
“So then it's like, oh, you're old, you're a dried up hag and your Botox sucks.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Angie Sullivan:So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots. Welcome to America's Top DEI podcast, the fantastic daughter-mother duo. Of course, I'm the daughter. I hate her so fucking much. It's unbelievable. Tell them. okay we're going to the dog food store today and she says something and i say ma 'am or whatever and then i anyway we're calling out to each other over the aisles like a bunch of nuts and the girl ringing us up originally told the manager that she thought i was jennifer's daughter that's that's originally what she told us and then callie said no the mother the the manager came up to me and said, are you guys mother daughter?
1:00Angie Sullivan:I said, hold up. Who do you think the mother is? And who do you think the daughter is? And the manager's dying laughing. I go, do you think that she's the daughter and pointed to you? And then we point to Callie and I go, Callie, which was the person at the register, who is the mother and who is the daughter? Because the manager said that at first that I, you were the daughter because remember, I was happy in the beginning. You were. And then we asked Callie who Callie fucking sucks. No, I love her. She's, she was real sweet. So she said I was the mother. And so the manager thinks it's just hilarious.
1:36And Cal and I'm like, Callie, I want to talk to your manager. I need to make a complaint in your personnel file. Of course, who ended up being the asshole? Who was the older one? And as it turns out, the manager got it wrong and Callie thought Jennifer was my daughter. And I'm fucking mad about it. Madder than a wet hint. Have you had it? I've had it. I've had it with Jennifer acting like she's a decade younger and I've had it even more with store clerks that think I'm her mother. And that feed my narcissism. An insatiable appetite for ego.
2:14Angie Sullivan:Yeah, I agree. If I were in your position, I would have been pretty pissed off and I would have had it too. However, considering that I'm the daughter in this scenario, I'm tickled pink. Pumps, what have you had it with? What I've really had it with, I've just had it with the overall lack of accountability in the United States of America in 2020-25. I'm so sick of people that make excuses for their bad behavior, double down on it, instead of just saying, I'm sorry. I have an unmitigated apology for you. I did something wrong. I messed up. My bad. That is severely lacking. And obviously the Trump administration is where it starts, but it trickles down into every area of life.
2:59I feel like people are emboldened now to act like they're not wrong when they are. And it's obvious to everyone they aren't because we've just given up as a society, as a society on accountability. And I've had it because accountability is important. I have fucked up a lot. I've made a lot of mistakes and I try to get to, I'm sorry. This is not about you. This is about my screw up. This is about me needing to grow. This is about me needing to examine my perspective and do better. And when we lack that, which we do right now, I feel like that contributes to the silo. Nobody can ever say, that's on me.
3:42And it's a real problem for me. I couldn't agree with you more.
3:46Angie Sullivan:I think there's just a lot of blaming, deflecting, trying to rearrange the deck chair, scapegoating people instead of just taking accountability. This is on me. That's my screw up. I'm sorry. My bad. I'll fix it. Yeah. Recently, we had booked a podcast guest and she is a younger mother. She totally spaced it. And I got a text from her. I am so sorry. I want to get in the fetal position and scream and cry and die. I've been in the weeds and I completely spaced it. And I just responded. I got you. I get it. We're good. Right. Because that's all it takes to get over something like that is just honesty.
4:28Angie Sullivan:We all fuck up. Right. But you got to rectify. You screw up, you rectify. And it's therapeutic for the screw-upper to atone. That's right. Verbally atone. Right. And I really do. I think through that process, you realize where you can do better and how you can get better. And if you never own it, then you can never get better and you're just stuck. And I just feel like as a nation, we're just stuck. Yeah, I agree, Pumps. All right, I'm going to shift gears a little bit with my grievance. And I've aired this grievance before, but now I'm going to hyper focus it onto something. I've had it with surveys, like you go and you receive a service, and then you get terrorized after the service to take a survey about the service.
5:13Angie Sullivan:Right. Most of the time, the service you received is not something you want to remember. Right. And y 'all may recall a couple weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I shared with our listener about my pap smear. Well, since the pap smear, I have received about 10 emails asking me to take a survey about my appointment. And what I have to say to gynecologists, and I love my gynecologist, but what I have to say to gynecologists and physicians in general, all across the United States of America, nobody wants to remember their pap smear. Every year when it pops up on my calendar, I think, my God, has it already been a year?
5:55Angie Sullivan:I so don't want to do this. And the joy that I used to have between the ending of the pap smear before the beginning date that I got the next one is I never thought about the pap smear for about 364 days. Right. It never entered my brain. I didn't think about it. I was able to just remove it entirely from my consciousness. And now this survey is following me around in my email box, terrorizing me, reminding me of climbing up on the table, stripping down naked, putting my legs in stirrups, spreading them wide open. The room is about 40 degrees Fahrenheit, and I am dying. And I don't know why they are so hellbent on this cruel and unusual post pap smear follow-up email torture.
6:45Angie Sullivan:I don't want to take the survey. I'm going to tell you the pap smear was not great. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to think about it. I don't want to attach a memory of great job team. You did a great job digging in my vagina today. Great job scraping my vaginal wall. I don't want to make comments like that. Why is this a thing? why are we emailing women who are responsible to get their pap smear and asking them to give a survey about the service of receiving a pap smear? What the fuck is going on? I don't know. And I don't know that if that's not on some kind of software, because I get that with when I go to the doctor, like before I'm even out of the exam room, I'm getting a survey.
7:30But a couple of things about the doctor and the pap smear. Number one, they're not all that different. I mean, they're the same. I mean, how are they going to improve your pap smear experience? It's the same thing. It has been forever and ever. Number two, I wonder if they ever get a survey that said, I loved my pap smear. I want to come back for another pap smear. Can I do three a year? Can I get like once a quarter, once a week? Is that what they're expecting? Because that never happens. I mean, probably maybe once it's happened because people are sick and twisted. But I just don't know what the expectation is.
8:06Like, okay, I'm giving you a survey about your pap smear, about your doctor's permit. They're really not going to be all that different under any circumstances. And what's the appropriate response? I mean, you know, stupid, stupid.
8:18Angie Sullivan:I mean, I think if I really, if I opened up the email instead of just deleting it immediately, which is what I always do. And despite deleting it and subscribing, they still find me. I'm battling for my life and my email box at all times. But nonetheless, if I were to really go in and open up and say, okay, let's go. Yeah. Let's go. Let's pony up. Let's talk about it. And I started writing details. It's, this is a product of medicine for profit. Yeah. You know, this is, this is an extension of capitalism onto the healthcare industry where you have the survey industry piggybacking onto the healthcare industry saying, I'll tell you what we're going to do now.
9:00Angie Sullivan:We're going to pull this out of the parking lot. What we're going to do is we're going to start surveying your patients. Right. Feedback. And then we're going to loop everybody in on these miserable Zooms that could have been an email. And we're going to talk about everybody's feedback on these goddamn surveys. I just wish that we could avoid unnecessary conversations. Because talking about the pap smear, the team of hospitals and doctors and the survey takers talking about the pap smear, all of that is unnecessary. Right. That is going to occupy a lot of minutes and time of people's lives that they're never, ever going to get back.
9:36Angie Sullivan:And now I'm talking about this pap smear. I mean, we're 30 days post pap smear. And I think that they're probably going to keep terrorizing me. They did the same thing with the mammogram. Yeah. And that's just miserable. You know, they literally, it's like having your tit rolled up in a window. Right. On a smash hit. Yeah. And so I'm just like, what is this? What kind of sadistic, twisted follow-up is this? A survey about it? Well, I think they've sold these doctors and healthcare organizations. You have to have a survey. You have to get feedback. So now they think, so they're paying these people to do these surveys that are completely unnecessary.
10:12I will tell you this. I did have an issue with a flight the other day. And I did the whole AI thing. And I knew it was AI because Kylie told me the chat thing was AI. So I'm going back and forth. and they kept saying, was this helpful? Did we answer your question? And I wrote back, not only was this not helpful, it was unhelpful. I feel less helped than if I would have never gotten on this at all. And guess what happened? An agent called me immediately. Are you serious? Yes. I Karened the chat box thing and an agent called me immediately, fixed my problem.
10:51Angie Sullivan:That is really good, Pips. Yeah. That's actually helpful information. Yes. That is actually helpful right there. That is a helpful situation. And so did the agent help you? Yeah. I didn't have my TSA pre-check on my boarding pass. Let me ask you this. Did they know what you had written to the AI bot? They had to have because they kept saying, is this information helpful? No, you're not helpful. Did the rep know? Did she mention I saw your chat in the - She knew my problem. She knew what my issue was when she called. Okay. So I assume she did or they, you know, hey, we got Karen over here that needs to talk about her TSA pre-check.
11:31Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie.
11:34Angie Sullivan:She is the head beaver in charge. We have Kiki the Magic, lesbian who just right before we started this, my mother called her Katie. Shut up. She did. I did. I did. I called her Katie. Did she or did she not Katie? She said Katie from downstairs. And I just, that's me. Yeah. And everybody knew who I was talking about. She just called her Katie. Here's the deal. If I start getting dementia, how will we know? How will we know? I think we're getting signals. I think we're starting to get a slow drip of information coming in. Okay, I've got some reviews for you. This one is five stars titled New Love Language.
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12:58So curl up with your Stanley cup and one or two of your 20 bridesmaids and prepare to be forever changed and for your mama heart to be filled. Truly doing the Lord's work, ladies. Caw.
13:08Angie Sullivan:I really like that. I like that post a lot. And I clever. I do think your sacrifice of not dating inmates. Right. Because it would be so time consuming. It would take away from this podcast and iHip News. And just the fact that you just shared with everybody randomly one day, I will never date an inmate. At the time, I thought, well, that's a real fucked up thing to say. But now that they've written that out there like that, I think, you know, she doesn't have the time to date an inmate. I don't have the time to date an inmate. I don't like to talk on the phone. So that would really hurt my collect call situation.
13:51And I have to spend a lot of time with my dog. Yeah, that requires a lot of attention. That's super important. What a clever email, Katie.
13:59Angie Sullivan:That's not an email. That's a review, whatever. Yeah. Everybody knew what I meant. Okay. I actually have a DM that I'm going to read you. Okay. This person said, just finished your new book. Thank you, ladies, for being you and letting us see your true selves and your brutal honesty and sharing your ups and downs with the world. I love the book and will forever take away what people are saying or thinking about me is none of my business. So freeing for me. That is so lovely. And I just want to remind everybody that great segue. Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. it's our manifesto is available in bookstores and online and you can click our link in bio to buy it right kylie did you set that up i sure did okay good that's good did you text that up i texted it i wrote it up whatever you know on the internet stop okay but one thing i am gonna say i get so tired of everybody like and not like listeners but you know cbs this morning when we were on there they had to like put the duct tape over the shit part and i'm like donald trump is throwing people in concentration camps and you're worried about the word shit deliver me i completely agree the hysterics over cussing is so ridiculous it shows how prude and petty americans can be i see it in our comments like i wish i wouldn't drop the f-bomb and boy they sure to drop the f on the line and i'm like you know what fuck off um as pumps likes what do you say suck my dick suck my dick i have the best mom okay suck my dick pumps and i need to share with everybody that we have written a book it's called life is a lazy susan of shit sandwiches and believe it or not pumps and i have not always been so rock solid and we talk about all of our trials tribulations, most of all are fuck-ups.
15:55Angie Sullivan:Yes, because fuck-ups are relatable and a part of the human experience. I have gotten so much feedback regarding the book that because of my situation with the religion and addiction and all that, that people relate to that. So I do think there's something to take away that's comforting about it because we've all been in very difficult situations. And listener, what we want you to do, this is the it book for summer reading. So please get your copy of Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches and take a picture of yourself with the book in really great places and tag at I've Had It Podcast. And we will share your images with our summer it book.
16:35Angie Sullivan:You can buy it in bookstores. You can buy it in the link in our bio. You can buy it at Target, Walmart, Amazon, et cetera. All the retailers. Happy reading and happy summer.
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17:58Angie Sullivan:All right, I have some news stories I would like to share with the class today. First up, the New York Post is reporting passenger flagged by TSA after swamp crotch sets off alarm and it's happening to others too. It's the ire of flyers who profusely perspire. Nearly no one enjoys getting stopped by TSA authorities at the airport. But when checkpoint alarm bells begin blaring around a traveler's groin, as happened to one befuddled passenger not long ago, there is a chance it's due to extreme wetness in their pants, insiders say. And I would like to get a real-time interview with a person who suffers from swamp crotch, none other than our podcast mother, Pumps.
18:49Angie Sullivan:I don't have swamp. Like if I'm super duper, super duper nervous, I'll get a crotch sweat. But I've never like had like just a wet crotch in TSA. Don't you describe your sweat as being swampy? the first time i feel swampy but that's that's armpits butt crack all the things crotch crotch under you know neck like anywhere that's just kind of an orifice did that phone call with ai you said it was surrounding a tsa pre-issue did they bring up any sort of swamp crotch they didn't say what's your tsa pre number and you are you are notorious for swamp crotch but remember this we're revoking your TSA pre privilege because you are a repeated offender of swamp crotch.
19:37Swamp crotch. Okay. But remember, we were talking about that one time, that guy who went, it was in Oklahoma City Airport. We were going somewhere. The guy in front of us, he set off all the alarms and we looked and it had his body outlined and it was bright red in his crotch. It was. And we were like, what's he got going on in his crotch? It was a crotch rocket. Implant or something. Maybe it was a swamp crotch.
19:59Angie Sullivan:I just immediately thought he had a penile implant. She's like, look at this screen. Look at this screen. I mean, it was bright red. Scratch is on fire. It's like a crotch rocket there. Yeah. But I think it's this swamp crotch is what I think it is. I think that – what about girls that are on their period? Yeah. I mean, that would be part of it. To me, this doesn't scream period. This screams dirty vagine. I don't know why, but that's just what I get. What about testicles and penis? You can have dirty that too. Right. Why are you just pointing out vaginas and not? Because I feel like it's easier for a vagine to smell just because of all the moisture.
20:42Angie Sullivan:And what are you basing that on? Well, I have one. Really? I mean, I don't smell a lot of dicks, but I've never smelled a dick that had like a swampy, a swampy smell. when I go and give my two-hour blowjobs so often. Wow. I don't sniff them. Wow. Kylie. Yes. Do you have anything to add about what we just heard? I really don't. I was just sitting here hoping you don't throw it to me. Katie, all right. I'm just, I don't know how to respond to all that. So I'm going to move on to the next story. Next up, we have a MAGA Summit for Young Women, Pushes for Less Burnout and More Babies. Roughly 3 ,000 young women attended the Young Women's Leadership Summit hosted earlier this month by Turning Point USA, the organization that claimed a critical role in turning out young voters for President Trump.
21:42Angie Sullivan:The event was part sorority house, part church, and part suburban Tupperware party with a heavy dose of unleash the power within. Many attendees were raised in conservative homes. Others represented a new political constituency molded politically by Trump's rise and rocked emotionally by the pandemic. They began listening to wellness influencers whose voices became a gateway to the conservative political movement. Okay, here's what I have to say about this. This right here, this trifecta, part sorority house, part church, and part suburbs. That is my own personal trifecta axis of evil. That is like all of the things that I avoid like the plague at all costs.
22:42Angie Sullivan:And all of these things infantilize women. And they infantilize them in the sense that you are only worthy of this. You're only worthy of breeding. You're only worthy of being the identity of the sorority and not an individual identity. You're only worthy of being the wife of a husband. And the only work that you can do is Tupperware or some sort of trad wife account that you do. This is a fucking nightmare. And Charlie Kirk, we played on our other podcast, he's the one who told a 14-year-old girl that he thinks when she goes to college, yeah, sure, go to class and stuff, but really be looking for an MRS degree, which is obviously Mrs.
23:28Angie Sullivan:And I think that this is predatorial behavior, preying on young girls, indoctrinating them to prepare themselves for a man. I think this is a disgrace. I think this is so horrific that they have their claws in young women because there's nothing about the MAGA movement that is beneficial to women, specifically young girls. You're absolutely right. Right. That was so well said because I look at that and I think that makes me so sad because we're indoctrinating another generation just as we were kind of getting up to the mountaintop. And now we've got people that value being a trad wife. They value submitting to their husbands.
24:13They value having their opinion be their husbands. I mean, it is that makes me so sad. Like, I can't even joke about it because it's really depressing.
24:24Angie Sullivan:The whole trad wife thing to you guys, it's all a lie. It's all based on a lie. And these women are completely trying to pitch something that absolutely does not exist, nor is that attractive for, I mean, like I can't even imagine thinking, but I wasn't raised like that, but I can't imagine thinking like, that's my goal. I just want to go be a wife. I just want to be married. And give everything up. I can't even imagine that. But sadly, in these megachurches, that is the culture that is completely thrust upon women. And there's a lot of hyperfixation in religion over the woman's purity and sex life.
25:11Angie Sullivan:And I think that is inherently sexist. I think the idea that Mary, in order to have given birth to a Savior, had to have been a virgin is inherently sexist. and doesn't help the cause of women by saying, oh, you know, somehow if a woman has had sex, that she's dirtied or soiled. Well, I hate to break it to you, but when Adam, you know, Adam in the Bible, it was in the first chapter, you've got Adam and Eve. Eve is subservient. Eve is the one that brought evil into the world. She ate the apple. She ate the apple. There's nothing on planet earth institutionally that is more misogynistic than the Bible.
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25:51Full stop. Yeah.
25:53Angie Sullivan:Full stop. Well, and it's not just the Bible, all the Abrahamic religions, you know, the trifecta of Abrahamic religions are all inherently misogynistic and patriarchal. And it's something that goes when we talk about trying to solve the issue of women's rights and gender issues. There's always this carve out to not include religion because we don't want to offend people. And this is something that we have to move past because the right wing has weaponized religion and put it at the epicenter of the federal government right now. They're talking in tongues at the White House. So we have to address, if we're going to uproot these injustices and this discrimination based upon gender, then we have to talk about all of the things that facilitate these injustices and bigotry.
26:39Angie Sullivan:And one of the biggest ones is religion. And like, Pumps' kids went to kind of this conservative school, and I'm always shocked when you tell me one of your kids' friends, they're getting married at like 20 and 21. Well, a girl that my daughter went to high school or college with just got engaged and I looked at her and I was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Are they not having sex? She's like, no, it's against their religion. I was like, okay. Think about how insane that is. And like for our international listeners, this is a real thing in the Bible Belt South that like they, People will abstain from having sex.
27:17Angie Sullivan:You're talking like 18, 19-year-olds, the horniest motherfuckers on the planet. And they get married early so that they can screw. It's like the worst life advice ever. Ever. The worst life advice ever. It's terrible. And that doesn't even get into you that sex before marriage is a lot more fun than after you get married. A million times more fun. And what if like, what if, what if you wait and then you have sex the first time and then this guy's like a total gyrator quick shot. What do you do about that? You're married to that. Well, I mean, you don't know if you've never had sex before. That's what I mean.
27:52Angie Sullivan:But like, my point is you get married and then this guy's a gyrator quick shot and then you have that forever. You never enjoy sex because it's over before you're even wet. And I'll tell you another thing. My daughter said this to my face. No, mom, like people that want to stay virgins, they just have sex in the ass. And I'm just like, is that, I mean, like, is that better? Is that less sexual? That's just insane. It's insane. It's sex. It's sex. It's like, no, they're still having sex. They're just having anal sex. But it's more accepted impurity culture to do it in the ass than the vagina. And then, of course, I know we've told it a million times, the Mormons that have sex and the kneecap and the armpit and the elbow crease, you know, give each other herpes in those areas.
28:39I'm just like, is that more? I would rather have sex in the vagine than the elbow.
28:46Angie Sullivan:Well, I don't think there's any question. I mean, that just makes sense. Kylie or Katie, Kathy, grew up in Stillwater, Oklahoma, Mega Church, the whole nine, which is typical upbringing in these parts. Did you have friends that married young? Yeah. Yeah, and the MRS degree is a very real thing and a very talked about thing, especially within my sorority. I mean, there were certain ones that would be like, that is why I'm here for the MRS degree. Oh, my God. And they say it out loud. They say it out loud. They're proud of it. And that's what worries me about this. Generationally, people think that this type of thing is okay.
29:23And now you have, what's his face, Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, fucking limp dick from hell. Well, he's going in and, you know, he's bringing this up and saying, hey, this is great. It's not great. It's not great. Being financially dependent on somebody else leads to them being able to abuse you in different ways. It doesn't have to be physical. It can be emotional. It can be financially. But you are tethered to and tied to somebody if you are financially dependent on them. And so are your kids.
29:53Angie Sullivan:And this is the thing that these kids that these young girls don't understand is you find yourself married and then you have these children and if you all if your husband is the sole breadwinner which for some people that works that's great but if something happens and this person you know is you turned a lot of us when we enter relationships we only see which red flags we want to see we cherry pick the viewing of the red flags and then you finally start opening your eyes because quick shot, you know, it only goes so far, right? And then you have no exit strategy because then you have to sacrifice yourself so that your kids are safe and secure.
30:34Absolutely. And what about if the husband trades you in for a newer model? That happens all the time. Then what are you going to do? No education, no work experience. You've got three kids and he's got a new bride.
30:46Angie Sullivan:So Kylie, you're only 30 and you're telling me 10 years ago, that was still very much a thing at the Oklahoma state university. Yeah. I graduated in 2018. So that's millennials, not even 10 years, right? No, 28. Okay. Did anybody say like, that's nuts or is that just accepted? No. And not only is it not, is it normal? It's the right thing to do. It's actually like the best. So it's not just that I'm doing the normal. You're doing the right thing. That is so gross. This is why, Kylie, I want the merch added to our store that says Boycott Mega Churches. I think it is the biggest service that we can provide to society is to get people to boycott these hate churches, indoctrination camps that are an affront to personal liberty of women, LGBTQ plus.
31:41Angie Sullivan:and then just they're just total grifters everybody would save a shit ton of money not going to those things they're total fleabag flea market roach motels with horrible architecture horrible architecture the preachers always look like used car salesmen we need to boycott mega churches because government's never going to tax them but we can start a movement to boycott them like what we're doing to Elon Musk he doesn't like it all right I think today we should hear from our listener from you know just what's going on out in asshole island because we are always mom and me we are always i'm never always in the market for new petty grievances right mama i have a petty grievance and it's your mouth it's not petty all right uh katie yes up first we've got one from a gay triet hi ladies all right i've got something a little bit controversial to bring up.
32:36I think I'm going to call out some possible hypocrisy here. Jen, you always talk about parents being the problem with raising narcissistic children, always telling them they're great, fantastic, nothing's wrong. And then I hear you talk about how you raise Tubby and Cha-Cha.
33:00Angie Sullivan:That's true. There's a little bit of a disconnect here. You're so You're photogenic. You're so smart. You come to work every day and you're such a hardworking dog. I think you might be raising some narcissistic pups there. Anyway, just food for thought. Bye. Fucking love it. I take that and I am guilty as charged. I completely agree. I have raised little narcissistic monsters and those two little French bulldogs. And we know I have. And they are. They are. I mean, I've got to say, photogenic, incredibly intelligent. Tubby more than Cha-Cha. I mean, not to discount Cha-Cha. She's super sweet. Tubby is especially photogenic, intelligent.
33:42Angie Sullivan:Cha-Cha, though, I'm going to tell you, she is as sharp as a tap. She is. I can say to Cha-Cha, Cha-Cha, speak. And she barks super loud. And then I say, Cha-Cha, whisper. And she goes, woof. And we can do it back and forth and back and forth. And now I've got her bouncing a ball off of her nose. and she's just always, you know, like really, she is very compliment motivated. How good she is and what a good girl she is. And I tell Tubby how photogenic he is and he just smiles right into the camera. It's true. I'm raising absolute narcissistic monsters. There's no question about it. And I, with Ollie, I mean, he's just, he's the classic over-spoiled child that's mother told on everybody loves you as much as your mother.
34:25That's what his problem is. and it's so bad. Like Jennifer and I literally, we get asked all the time, like, what are your photos? Like send us some of your photos, like prepared photos. We have two, we have this one and we have the one we do for, we have two. And I'm talking about that. My son goes, I only see the same two pictures of you and Jennifer. And I'm like, we don't, it just has never occurred to us to do that. But I'm getting a new puppy, July 18th. And I really want to redo the photo shoot with all four Frenchies. Like I'm more excited about doing a Frenchie photo shoot, even though it'll be disastrous, getting four dogs.
35:00But with Tubby leading because he is so photogenic and he does kind of keep the other two in line until he'll be a puppy. But like, I don't give a shit about our photo, but I want to have Ollie and Matilda in it.
35:13Angie Sullivan:I think that's a great idea. I really do. I think that is an excellent idea. I mean, our dogs, you guys, it's just, I just, they make, they mean everything to me. Mine mean everything to me. Last night, I was loving on Ollie, and he started licking my face, and Emily took a picture, and from the back, it looked like we were French kissing. She sent it to Jennifer. Okay, go to the next. Okay, the next one we have is from Cameron. Good morning, Jessica, Pups, Kiki, and the bitch Seth. So, I'm going to tell you guys what I fucking had it with this morning. okay you're all posted on facebook and all these platforms now my job's at risk my health care job's at risk all these jobs are at risk motherfucker you were warned you were warned and i know you know you was commenting on my post fighting with me you were and now you're crying about it because taco tits is going to try to take your job away and your medicaid away and all these things that you need to live on?
36:18Now you're going to cry about it? Cry me a fucking river because you were warned.
36:23Angie Sullivan:I agree. You know, they jumped on President Taco Tits just as fast as they could. Which was great. And they just thought it was high times with their MAGA hats and, you know, and then all their, the bios of these MAGA people are so nauseating. Wife, Christian, patriot. Just like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. And go masturbate thinking about taco tits because nobody wants to see you or all of a sudden your selective empathy. You know, here's what I see on all over the place. I voted for Donald Trump. I didn't think he was going to deport my wife or, yeah, he took all the migrant workers.
37:06I didn't think he was going to take my workers or, you know, the Latinos for Trump. Like he sold us down the river and I'm like, this was all readily available information. Mass deportations was the thing. And you're sitting around mad because it's your wife, it's your workers, but you didn't give a shit if it was somebody else's wife or somebody else's workers. And so it's funny because you and I kind of switch on this. Like I have a really hard time having empathy for those people. I'm kind of like, you know, you get what you pay for, motherfucker. you always go back to my vote covers them my vote is my empathy i there is something perverse in me that gets a little bit of joy when i see all this and i just want to say fucked around found out
37:56Angie Sullivan:here's the deal i get it i love the the find out phase of this but at the end of the day I don't want these this person who was a Latino for Trump, whose husband gets deported and detained as much as I fucking hate MAGA and every fucking triple Trumper on the planet. And I mean, I H a T E exclamation point, bold print, italicized, underlined, hate them. I don't want them to suffer. I know. I want to hate them. I want to hate them because I think they suck, but I do not hate them and want them to suffer. That's the difference. The people who want to own the libs, they genuinely want liberals to suffer.
38:43Angie Sullivan:They themselves will suffer so that they can ensure that liberals suffer. Right. The suffering and the cruelty is the point for them. I just want to privately hate them and talk about them behind their backs on my podcast. I don't fucking want them to suffer. Right. Right. Well, it's, you know, like this whole, you know, concentration camp thing, like anybody that's cheering for human to be locked up like they do in El Salvador or at this Alcatraz Island, there is something deeply wrong with you. Any human being, any human being, particularly without due process, particularly with no evidence against them to be slapped over there, there's something wrong in your brain.
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41:36Angie Sullivan:Homes.com has 22 data visualization layers, seven environmental layers, and allows you to search by commute and architectural factors. It's the home search you've been searching for. Go to Homes.com today for home shopping the way it should be. Homes.com. We've done your homework. All right, Kylie, next. Okay, up next we've got Will. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Pumps. Hi, Kylie. my name is will i'm from south alabama which is just a huge i've had it all on its own but this specific i've had it is really prevalent in like comment sections and it's when you know a democrat posts something that's slightly controversial slightly edgy and then a trump supporter comments back the party of the caring everyone this is the love and acceptance party i don't love or accept you motherfucker do not tell me if i am loving and caring i do not like you i loathe you everything you stand for i deplore oh you think i care enough oh it irks me to my center anyway see y 'all on the next episode love y 'all i i agree with this this is this whole but here's the point they never have a policy or a counterpoint to anything It's just always semantics with them or ad hominem attacks.
43:05Angie Sullivan:It is never, ever like about tax policy. They never can say, I would much rather the billionaires get a tax break and I'll gladly pay more. They don't. That would be a conversation I want to have. But instead, it's like, I'm going to buy a farm to put all the libtards I've owned on because I can own libtards online. And it's like, is that your life purpose? And I think in general, people that just want to have fuck you fest in the comment section, it's toxic. I mean, that's just so stupid. I remember when Facebook came out, I got in a fight with some girl on Facebook. And then my heart rate was raised.
43:48Angie Sullivan:And I thought, this is just so fucking dumb. But she was a fucking twat. I'll tell you that. She was a fucking twat. And I gave it to her. I let her fucking have it. I read her for filth. Did you ever hear from her again, run into her? No, she unfriended me. And I wore it like a badge of honor. You're like, thank you. Oh, and I have another confession. I did get in a fight with another woman on Facebook. And she posted something about Trump. No, no, no. She posted, this was in 2020 when Biden won. And this woman was a Catholic. And she posted something about Biden not being a good Catholic and then like something pro-MAGA, this woman, this Catholic Republican.
44:36Angie Sullivan:And I just couldn't take it. I couldn't take it. And I knew right when my fingers went to the keyboard, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. But I couldn't. I couldn't help myself. And I write, the audacity to sit and criticize somebody's Catholicism when you probably have never even criticized all of the priest that sexually abused and raped people for years and covered it up makes perfect sense that you yourself would find a way in your Catholic heart to support the sexual abuser Donald Trump. I immediately got unfriended, but I do not regret what I said. Sounds like to me she needed to hear it.
45:18You know, interestingly enough, when you have a situation like that, and I don't do that. I think like these people are imaginary. I'm not going to waste my time on it. But I do think it's interesting. Like we get comments all the time where we might say, we believe that everyone deserved the same rights, equality across the board. and instead of well you know our policy is yeah they can but they're criminals it's always like you have too much botox you're ugly your voice sounds weird and it's just like is that where
45:54Angie Sullivan:we're like that's gonna hurt my feelings but i mean that's that's to me where you see that you're winning the argument 100 yeah i mean that's when you see that because they don't they won't type it out. They won't type out their rights of white supremacy. They won't type out their racism. Now, some do. Some do. Some absolutely do, especially on Elon Musk's free speech Twitter, which wasn't about free speech. It was about Nazi racist hate speech favoring being favored in the algorithm. But I just I think that a lot of these triple Trumpers, they don't have the intelligence to go policy for policy.
46:34Angie Sullivan:I mean, you could dismantle an evangelical Christian MAGA Trumper in 2.5 seconds. I mean, it's about the easiest thing to completely dismantle their hypocrisy. I mean, I could do it in 2.5 seconds, the hypocrisy that an evangelical MAGA Trumper lives in. And they just, they only hang out with other MAGAs. They only watch Fox News. These are not people that are interested in growing. These are not people that are interested in having like an interesting, curious life at all. They're boring. Right. They shop in strip malls and chain stores. They watch Wheel of Fortune, which sometimes I'm not going to lie.
47:14Angie Sullivan:From time to time, I'll kind of eye a little bit of a Wheel of Fortune. Although I think Pat Sajak is a MAGA prick, that's neither here nor there. But you know, this is just, it's just too much. These MAGA triple Trumpers. They're just too much. And they're so loud. They're so dumb and loud at the same time. Yeah. And I just, I really, this is something I haven't expressed before, but I'm just going to go ahead and express it. What it's done to fashion the MAGA movement is just such a disgrace from just at the top, the way you see, you know, like Trump and the color of blue suit that he wears.
47:49Angie Sullivan:I think it's garish. I think it's unattractive. I don't think it's tailored well, But then trickle it down like when you're at the airport and you see the everyday American wearing MAGA merch or MAGA-coated merch. It's sloppy. The cotton's not very nice. The screen printing is not of a good quality. You can tell it's hard and stiff and crunchy. It's just really been a degradation of fashion entirely. Oh, my God. Tell them about when we were at LaGuardia the other day and we passed the guy in the Trump shirt. okay you don't remember so we're walking and pumps goes oh my god oh my god that guy oh and the trump international yeah yeah she goes oh my god oh my god that guy has a trump shirt on and there's no question i mean we're like bumping shoulders with him and i go where and she's right there and points right to his shirt and i went oh and then when she did that i started going yeah and there's no question that he heard it yeah you know he's like fucking liberal tears blah blah blah you know and I know you're gonna get mad at me and I'm gonna get so much backlash online but I just think it's worth saying we have all this mega hate that starts and stops with Botox fillers fake faces all the things I mean that's like number one what we get and then you look at the pictures from Mar-a-Lago and I just I feel like my Botox isn't that bad I I mean, I'll own it.
49:14I have Botox, but it's like you're telling me these are your idols and you're criticizing my Botox and fillers. That's a good point.
49:22Angie Sullivan:I mean, you know, like, really? Right. No, I think that's a really good point, Pumps. I mean, it's but again, it's you're they're losing the argument. These are all ad hominem attacks. That's all they have. That's all they have in their arsenal. You can say, I believe in equality. I believe in the Constitution. I believe in democracy. They can't say, oh, we do too, because they know the goose is cooked on that. So then it's like, oh, you're old, you're a dried up hag and your Botox sucks. And so it's like, fair enough. It's not wrong. Spot it. Got it. Right. OK, whatever. And then you just move on.
49:58Angie Sullivan:OK, Kylie, next. The last one is from Gaytriot Garrett. Hello, ladies. So there's something that I've been noticing over the last few years that's really bothering me. uh i'll go you know on a walk or a hike and i'm starting to constantly see people leave their bagged dog shit on the ground or on the trail or wherever and i just don't understand what the fucking purpose of doing that is like why not just leave your dog's shit there like without a bag now it's going to be in a fucking plastic bag and it's not gonna like go anywhere for god knows how long what's the fucking point i just don't understand have you guys seen this this is fucking annoying as fuck to me i have not seen this but it doesn't surprise me because people cannot take things over the finish line right they can't even flush the toilet with their own shit you know and so this is insane i agree just leave the shit out leave the shit at least it'll fertilize the grass or whatever.
51:05Angie Sullivan:Just leave the shit out. Just if you cannot take it over the finish line and throw your dog shit away, then just leave the, leave the shit out. Right. Let it just naturally decompose with the soil. Don't add plastic to it. You know, this is funny because when I take Blaze for a walk, Ollie doesn't poop on a walk, which is weird, but Blaze, he's even money. He's always going to do it. I have to carry it around. Like I don't want to, I've one time at my neighbor's, at my old, old house. You remember this. I told Kirk I'd quit smoking. And so I smoked, smoked, smoked. And then I ran over to my neighbor's big, big trash thing on the outside of their house.
51:43And I threw my cigarette case in there. And then they were like, did you throw a cigarette pack in our garage? And I'm just like, first of all, who the fuck looks in their big blue trash can? Like that was weird. But anyway, I'm like, yeah, it was me. And so then ever since then, I'm like, Do people look in their trash cans? So I won't even throw my dog poop in. I'll either walk to mine. But there is this like little commercial area. And it says, if you don't have a, you know, office here, don't throw in the trash. And I will rev up that shit in that bag and I will chunk it into that deal. But it would never occur to me just to put it in the bag, tie it up and leave it.
52:21That seems like you're going halfway. Let's get back to the revving up of the shit. Let's get back to the details on that.
52:26Angie Sullivan:So you lasso it. Yeah, I lasso up because there's a bit, there's like. How many rotations are we talking here? One, two. On the third. So one, two. So not even an eight count. No, not an eight count. Like, because I'm just trying to get it over the eight foot, like, stockade fence. Revenant. And I'm looking through the little slits. Yeah, I do. Wow. And are you braless during most of this? If I was braless, I'd have a black eye. You'd know. Okay. All right. I was just curious. I do like that you rev it up. I think that's a fun little spicy thing to do. Yeah, rev it. All right, guys. I think that's all we have for today.
53:06Angie Sullivan:I want to remind you to buy our book, Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches. Surprisingly, we're getting really positive feedback. So that's something we did right, Pumps. Something. We'll put that on the list of like two other things. All right, Pumps, tell them. We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.
53:29I'll tell you what I've had it with.
53:30Angie Sullivan:Let's hear it. I've had it with that. Listen up, patriots, gaytriots, and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday, every day, 15 to 20-minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America, always served with a side of petty grievances. We are on all the available platforms, Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcast and YouTube. Please go rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, what does an eagle say? Caw-caw! A little bit more enthusiasm. Caw-caw!
54:14Angie Sullivan:That's it. That's the patriotism that this country needs right there.
54:25Thank you.
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