In short
The hosts vent about political harassment (donor texts that ignore opt-outs), the need for publicly funded campaigns and shorter election periods, and everyday “had it” frustrations (cellphone walkers weaving in NYC, performative diet/health marketing, and men’s “masculinity” rebranding). They also heavily criticize J.D. Vance and Usha Vance, mock Usha’s children’s podcast, and discuss Oklahoma politics and “Oklahoma standard” claims.
Guests
No named guests appear. The episode is driven by the hosts (Jennifer, Angie, Kylie) plus listener voice memos/comments.
Key claims
- Campaigns should be publicly funded with equal money; corporations shouldn’t donate; campaigning should be limited (e.g., 1–6 weeks).
- Politicians violate boundaries by continuing texts after “unsubscribe.”
- Usha Vance’s “Storytime with the Second Lady” is portrayed as hypocrisy/possibly coerced.
- J.D. Vance’s book is framed as damage control for rumors about his wife.
- “Man” wellness/masculinity products (e.g., man cereal, man wipes) exploit insecurity.
Notable examples
- Turning Point USA mail; a listener donates to Planned Parenthood “in Erica Kirk’s name.”
- Oklahoma minimum wage vote and “Project 2025” framing.
- “Man cereal” and “IV bars” as wellness rackets.
- Barbara Bush example of disagreeing publicly with her husband.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFrustration with Political Texts
0:10 to 1:41
Discussion about the overwhelming number of political texts and the need for publicly funded campaigns.
“Patriots, gay, triots, they triots, black, triots, brown, triots.”
Need for Campaign Reforms
1:41 to 3:21
The hosts discuss the necessity of publicly funded campaigns and shorter campaigning periods.
“Number two, This is why we need publicly funded campaigns.”
Walking Etiquette in NYC
3:21 to 4:12
A humorous take on the struggles of navigating slow walkers on city streets.
“They call an election and it's 90 days later?”
Distracted Walking Dilemmas
4:12 to 6:23
Hosts share experiences of being distracted while walking and the need for more pedestrian organization.
“I have had it with walking down the street in New York.”
Listener Feedback and Wedding Crashing Ideas
6:23 to 8:52
The hosts read and respond to listener comments, including a creative wedding crashing idea.
“Welcome to I've had it America's top DEI podcast.”
The Politics of Their Podcast
8:52 to 9:20
Discussion on the podcast's approach to politics and their views on current events.
Critique of J.D. Vance's Book
9:20 to 12:12
Hosts critique early reviews of J.D. Vance's book and the implications of its content.
“themselves, you can subscribe to IHIP News, which are bite-sized news hits that drop two to three times a day.”
Usha Vance's Podcast Attempt
12:12 to 14:00
The hosts comment on Usha Vance's new podcast and the perceived oddity of her presentation.
“googly-eyed crazy about him a his choices b I mean when she met him first of all his name was different I don't know it was like John Day and you know now it's just JD but he's had like three names.”
Critique of Usha Vance's Choices
14:00 to 18:00
Discussion on Usha Vance's complicity in her husband's actions and societal expectations.
“Sharing another great book with a special reader soon.”
The Rise of Masculine Branding
18:00 to 28:00
Exploration of products that cater to male insecurities and how marketing exploits masculinity.
“music sensation, the dominatrix on OnlyFans has shown more patriotism than any Republicans.”
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Masculinity and Insecure Men
28:00 to 31:42
Explore the discussion on masculinity's portrayal and its implications in society.
“And I was just like, oh my God, it's two of them.”
Masculinity and Insecure Men
31:46 to 32:46
Explore the discussion on masculinity's portrayal and its implications in society.
“I'm incredibly busy and grocery shopping can just be so time consuming.”
Voice Memos and Performative Eating
33:03 to 36:25
Discussion on listener voice memos about performative eating habits and their societal impact.
“I am an American raised by MAGA people in the Bible Belt, but now I live in London.”
Political Satire and Turning Point USA
36:25 to 42:01
Analyzing political commentary regarding Turning Point USA and societal implications.
“And everybody knows, A, he's asleep and B, old people when they're asleep, they pass gas and don't know it.”
Scissor Point: A Satirical Take on Politics
42:01 to 43:29
Explore a humorous critique of political figures and societal norms through a satirical lens.
Marketing Misfires: The Problem with Targeting
43:30 to 47:21
Discuss the ineffectiveness and grossness of targeted marketing towards men in advertising.
“And so what I've had it with is just this marketing that we do for men.”
The Oklahoma Standard: A Critical Examination
47:22 to 49:54
Delve into the concept of the so-called 'Oklahoma Standard' and its implications for governance and social issues.
“against the well-being of everybody and just lap up all of this propaganda without any critical thinking.”
The Cruelty of Indifference: A Cultural Reflection
49:55 to 52:59
Reflect on the cultural attitudes leading to self-destructive voting behaviors and societal indifference in Oklahoma.
“All of, I mean, I can attest to every single thing you just said.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Angie Sullivan:So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay, triots, they triots, black, triots, brown, triots. We love you. And all of the triple Trumpers can do what pumps? All right, pumps. What have you had it with? Okay. This has been happening for the last two weeks and I've had it, had it, had it. So I have donated to democratic candidates in different states, obviously. And so I get all these text messages and I even sent you one like six months ago. It was check. Hi, it's Chuck Schumer. And I was like, I'm out. Stop. Don't text. So in my unknown texts, I'm getting literally yesterday, 40 unknown numbers texting.
0:50This has been happening day after day after day. It started with like 10 and 15. I've been doing stop, stop. Well, as I'm doing stop, I keep getting all these other texts. I hit unsubscribe, stop, whatever. Then I get a confirmation text that I've unsubscribed, but it keeps happening because we went off the air for like 10 minutes and my phone filled up with 15 more. Who was sending me all these. I mean, I hated to do it, but I stopped AOC because I was just like, I have to stop everyone.
1:26Angie Sullivan:You know, there's two issues here. Number one, the, when you tell somebody you don't want to get text anymore and they confirm that they're not going to text you anymore, they're already violating your boundary you drew. So that's number one. Number two, This is why we need publicly funded campaigns. Yeah. Because we have our politicians that in order to even compete with what these Republicans are bringing in from these oligarchs who are funding fascism, they have to hit up people like us and the everyday working class American to get 20 bucks, five bucks, 100 bucks. and they have to get massive amounts of those to even be able to come to the table.
2:13Angie Sullivan:And Zoran did this really well as he ran against all of the corporate money. And so it's really a shame that even when you look at presidential campaigns, they have to raise over a billion dollars. And furthermore, this is something that you don't know. If you're an American, it's just all you know. We're always in like a permanent campaign situation. So I think two things need to change if we ever get Trump out. Number one, we need publicly funded campaigns where each candidate gets the same amount of money. That's it. Do not let corporations donate. Don't take money from people. Get all the all the private, public, all of it, all of the corporate money out of it.
2:56Angie Sullivan:And then we need only like a month or six weeks of campaigning. It's too long. No, I agree. From now until the actual midterms and how it started like a year ago, it's too much. And then I think that exacerbates a human being's desire to just tune it out and be like, I don't care. Yeah, we're too far gone. Isn't it the UK that's 90 days? They call an election and it's 90 days later? I don't, I don't, I don't, I think ours is all day long. I think ours is extraordinarily like long and the amount of money that has to be raised and in Europe, the actual times that people can, can campaign as much shorter and it's publicly funded and the public funding would just be a game changer.
3:48Total game changer. Then I wouldn't see all these ridiculous ads on my TV every five minutes.
3:53Angie Sullivan:Yeah. And then it's like, and then you feel like, Oh, I need to hear about all these corporations given all this money. And you think, okay, well, I need to give to this person because they need these small dollar donations and it's going to make a difference. And it does, it really does. But then you get, then your number gets put on the list and then they all start coming after you. Yeah, no, it's crazy. All right. I've had it with mine is non-political. I have had it with walking down the street in New York. And there's a person in front of me that is a slow walker. Nobody on either side of them.
4:28Angie Sullivan:So I'm a very fast walker. Very. So I think, okay, I'm going to pass this person on the right. And as I start to weave, the person in front of me weaves. So I'm like, oh, okay, they're going this way too. So then I go, I'm going to go to the left. And then they weave back to the left. and you know what the culprit is? What? Cell phone. Oh, yeah. They're on their cell phone. They're like, they're walking while texting or walking while scrolling, which creates a walking drunk effect. Drunk person. And I can't get around them. And I just think that there needs to be more structure on the sidewalks, a fast lane, a slow lane.
5:12Angie Sullivan:I don't think people that all want to walk slow together should be able to be right next to each other. I think they should be like single file doing that. And I know it might be awkward for their conversation, but I can't. There was a lady today where I was like weaving and I finally was just like, I'm passing you on your left. Of course, her earphones were in. She had no clue where she was, what she was doing. You can't even say, excuse me, I'm passing on your left because they have the earphones in. so it's a huge problem I've been a victim of it here's the thing I've also been the person that's talking on their cell phone and not paying attention and I'm sure if I weave with my car I'm sure I weave when I walk you're the worst the worst I've never been in a car with you where you don't start you're driving down the road and start doing shit with your phone it's terrifying no and first of all I'm not a great driver to begin with I mean I'm not starting out at a 10 out of 10.
6:11And I've really tried to do better with my like voice activated. But as we know, so often the commands I give to my voice activation, my accent's too thick and it doesn't understand.
6:22Angie Sullivan:All right. Welcome to I've had it America's top DEI podcast. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. All right. Let's check in with Kylie. Hi. Hello. I've got a few reviews from comments from Spotify. And this one is a response to our episode on the wedding crashing that you wanted to do. Oh, yeah. So Ray Dell writes, obsessed with your wedding crashing idea. Here's mine. Get dressed up in pink or lavender colored suit and a super gay tie. Think rainbow, maybe small penises on it, something like that. Then during the whole ceremony, I would cry and get extra loud towards the end when the groom says yes. And when he does, I'd walk out of the church.
7:05For context, I'm gay, Cuban, brown, and a leftist. Yay. And I would do this at the MAGA weddings. Love your show. See, I knew it was like somewhat of a satisfying idea.
7:18Angie Sullivan:Yeah. It's like, if you see the performative wedding shit on Instagram, somebody acting like they're the first people to ever get married ever to ever pick bridesmaids to ever have a bachelorette party all the nauseating shit that sometimes I I'm like what the fuck is this going this is over the top and then I'm 25 weeks deep into something you know on the mother-in-law's page um but to be able to be like dramatic at the people who have dramatic Instagram posts about their wedding to be a guest and be incredibly dramatic there's something about that that just sounds really satisfying to me so I want to thank the reviewer for validating that this sounds fun and fucked up and toxic and that you're in and I support it yeah and it took it to a whole nother level then you were like why is he crying so hard is there a relationship going on what's going on the rumors start flying that will live to the end of time okay another comment we've got is from Laura and she says y 'all are the tits love it and then we've got justin l gibson and he says the only way we heal as a nation is more jaunty i've had it underscore as jennifer tells maga to fist themselves
8:36Angie Sullivan:that's fun stuff i mean god it's you know this for those of you that tune in to this tuesday Thursday podcasts that are new. This is our podcast called I've Had It. It drops Tuesday, Thursday. We try not to be political, but we're of the thought that everything's political. And if we didn't mention the egregious human rights violations, the dismantling of our democracy for idiotic fascists, that it would be like, oh, well, those white ladies, they don't have to talk about politics because it doesn't affect them. So we try to keep it a little lighter over here, but if you want hard-hitting everyday news analysis, where in fact I tell MAGA to go fist themselves, you can subscribe to IHIP News, which are bite-sized news hits that drop two to three times a day.
9:27Angie Sullivan:All right, let's do, this is political, but bashing J.D. Vance. And the reviews are in for J.D. Vance's new book. Let's pop this up. The Daily Beast is reporting J.D. Vance humiliated as he's savaged by early book reviews. Pop this up. The community reviews one star has 93%. And then here are the comments. One star because zero isn't an option. Okay, and then it's clear to those who have already read the book that there's only one reason JD wrote it. And it's not about converting to Catholicism. Pop this up. J.D. Vance wrote a book to convince you his wife doesn't hate him.
10:22Angie Sullivan:And then somebody writes, I got a colonoscopy on Friday. If only that were the least pleasant experience of my last week. But no, that would be when I pulled an all-nighter on Monday reading Communion, J.D. Vance's book. These are the reviews, the book reviews. And then JD spends a lot of time convincing the reader that Usha Vance is totally fine with the decision she's made. Let's pop this up. If the book has one goal, it's to get ahead of the rumors that he ruined Usha's life. As if ruining your wife's life isn't basically a prerequisite to becoming a world leader, Hogan writes. Vance badly wants the reader to know that Usha is totally fine with her choices.
11:07Angie Sullivan:namely quitting her high-powered law job because of his career, because she was never that ambitious to begin with. Imagine that a woman who goes to Ivy League school says she was never ambitious to begin with. Hogan continued, in his exact words, she has, quote, the biggest mismatch between ambition and ability of any person I've ever met. He adds that while in law school, her dream job was creating educational programming for kids, which is A, why most people go to Yale Law School, obviously, and B, suspiciously close to what she does as Second Lady. Vance, 41, also made it clear that Usha, 40, was happy to move to Ohio, loved his conversion to Catholicism at 35, and said that she is the one who wanted another baby after previously saying that she did not.
12:07he's gonna have to write another book to apologize for those quotes that he put in that book what a fucking asshole it makes me hate him even worse I do not believe Usha is googly-eyed crazy about him a his choices b I mean when she met him first of all his name was different I don't know it was like John Day and you know now it's just JD but he's had like three names. So it was a different name. It was different faith. He was a pro-immigrant or pro-immigration guy, wrote for the Law Review about it. That's who she married. And now she's married to a white supremacist that has his head stuck up Donald Trump's ass.
12:49Nobody likes that. Nobody wants that. All right.
12:53Angie Sullivan:So speaking of Usha, let's do a little wellness check. She started a podcast and here's the clip. Remember when the Vance family gave us another thing to make fun of them for last month when Usha Vance started a podcast where she's going to read to children despite the fact it seems like she's just mad or in a hostage situation. Either way, never read to children. I'm here to report that there's like five more episodes and they've only gotten worse. So enjoy. Hello and welcome to Storytime with the Second Lady. My name is Usha advance and I'm so glad yo today to read a story. I' from when I was a kid unt we grow.
13:33I'll see you nex on story time with the sec better and to all of you I'm excited for our next to all of you out there. next story time when we 'l book with another special then I hope you pick up a read at home because when we read, we grow. I'll see you next time right here on Storytime with the Second Lady. Sharing another great book with a special reader soon. Until then, I hope all of
14:05Angie Sullivan:you out there enjoy finding some new favorite books. I've seen enough. For those of you that are listening, she looks like a hostage. She looks like terrorists are standing on the other side of the camera saying, okay, and they have cue cards saying, say this, say this. Here's the thing. I don't know if she is unhappy with JD Vance. She just had another child with him. We always assume, well, what's wrong with this person? What's wrong with that person? And JD Vance didn't just become broken. He's been broken and broken people pick broken people. So Usha Vance, sitting there promoting reading while her husband's administration is dismantling the Department of Education and banning books is just, you know, the irony in that and the hypocrisy in that is just like Melania with her Be Best campaign.
15:03Angie Sullivan:Right. But there's something more nefarious going on. Usha, podcast. Katie Miller, podcast. Baby, baby. They have this they've capitulated to the patriarchy in a way that I don't think Usha was just, you don't go from being like a progressive Democrat and then all of a sudden you're doing that garbage. She had to have been broken to some extent before or insecure about the own color of her skin that caused her to marry J.D. Vance. I'm not buying into that J.D. Vance just broke her. I think that she has autonomy. She lives an incredibly privileged life. She lives on the taxpayer dime. She is willfully choosing to get up and do this every single day.
15:55Angie Sullivan:If she saw things that she was thought were wrong or hypocritical, she could speak out hell. The dominant dominatrix on OnlyFans that big titty Brian, the husband of Christine was in love with, she whistle blew. She whistle blew. When she found out that Big Titty Brian, who said he wanted to be a trans bimbo slut named Crystal, when she found out that Big Titty Brian was married to Kristi Noem, she whistle blew. She whistle blew for democracy. So I'm not one of these women that sits and blames the man for everything that goes wrong in another woman's life because I believe in in the power of women and I believe in feminism and these women that carry water for the patriarchy Usha Vance, Pam Bondi, the wife of Big Titty Brian, Christy Noem, they are they know what they are doing.
16:55Angie Sullivan:These are privileged people that have autonomy. They have choice. And, you know, Usha Vance, I don't know what the deal is, but I don't think so that lauren i am lauren p she's a progressive influencer i had her on the pod she said she thinks they had some frozen embryos and probably we can deduce after the embrace with erica vance and jd vance on stage where erica was dry humping basically jd vance on on stage right after her husband was murdered all over the internet um Usha immediately gets I think JD Vance is so such a prostitute that it's like Usha we need to have a another baby and I don't know if she's just so down the rabbit hole cult cult with him but everyday women are standing up like the um OnlyFans woman.
17:54Angie Sullivan:Unlike Cash Patel's girlfriend who has more patriotism at the ripe old age of 27, the country music sensation, the dominatrix on OnlyFans has shown more patriotism than any Republicans. Period. Honestly, I fault Usha Vance. I fault the women around them because she has an opportunity to stand up for her kids. She has an opportunity to stand up for herself. And she does it. Now, of course, she could be an abused woman i just have seen jd vance run and i just don't think i mean i think i could kick his ass and i've never been in a fight before in my life but i really genuinely think i could fist fight him and win yeah i don't think i don't know if i could because he's quite a bit taller than me you're tall but it would be the only because of the height and fit and fit he's a little bit chunky uh here's the thing I've been the broken person that chose a broken person you know I've made a bad choice in my marriage I'll get it and you grind your heels and you're like I've got to save this for dear life so I get the very human part of it but I I mean like at some point you got to cry and say I'm not doing this anymore and I don't know if she ever will Some people just never do.
19:11Yeah.
19:12Angie Sullivan:And it's a tricky thing because a lot of women do get manipulated and broken and beaten down emotionally over time. And I do think the majority of these men are probably abusers. It's difficult for me to have empathy for the women who are providing their gender as cover for other women to go along with the murdering and human rights violations that they're doing. I mean, I just think Usha Vance, like your parents were fucking immigrants. Your kids are mixed race kids. And your husband defends Nazis in Nazi group chats where they're saying evil shit, the N word, talking, talking about people from, you know, her race as sand, N-I-G-G, you can fill in the rest, just really grotesque stuff.
20:05Angie Sullivan:And JD Vance come out and can't come out and say, I can, I condemn this. And let me give you an example. George Herbert Walker Bush, the smart Bush president, his wife, Barbara Bush famously was pro-choice and she went on Oprah. And she said, I disagree with my husband about this. I have my own opinion. I have my own ideas. I am not president, however. And this was back in the eighties. She was a boomer, you know? And so I don't know if this is just a whole part of the fascist takeover where the women just go along with this too. I don't know. I don't need a psychologist to dissect it all. But you've seen in Republican circles, Barbara Bush, she famously stood up and said she was pro-choice and that she disagreed with George Herbert Walker Bush on the abortion issue.
20:55Yeah,
20:56Angie Sullivan:we're not seeing that in this group of females. All right. We can assume that like, And Usha Vance has fallen prey to all this toxic masculinity and is deferring to it, giving deference to it. But Usha is not the only one. Capitalism is cashing in on the masculinity crisis. Pop this up. Where can I buy a box of fragile masculinity? Man cereal gets blasted online for obvious reasons. In a world where even cereal is too girly, finally man has a solution let's pop this up no it's not a joke launched in 2025 man cereal markets itself as a science-backed breakfast cereal made for men though it's not off limits to anyone women can and do eat it too according to its founders man cereal is high protein high creatine
22:02low carb gluten-free made with no seed oil i mean come on that's like what's his name
22:11Angie Sullivan:rfk jr is obsessed with seed oils and no added sugar as saha writes in an attempt to make a cereal for men. The brand has created something arguably more heinous, Manosphere Cereal. It has exactly the type of advertising listener that you'd expect for targeting the Maha demographic. Let's pop this up. The truck delivering says cereal got its balls back. Man cereal, creatine, high protein keto zero sugar um oh my god it's but here's the thing man cereal is just the latest example of things that exist purely to give men permission to use a normal product like you can literally just go by cheerios here's some others that are focused in on this pop this up we have dude wipes, wet wipes rebranded so men can wipe their ass without feeling weird about it.
23:17Angie Sullivan:Man candles, candles, but now men can have them in their own home. And the scents include New York style pizza, sawdust and fresh cut grass. And then we have the man size Kleenex, tissues rebranded as big and strong for men's noses man crates regular gift boxes that come in a wooden crate you open with a crowbar because wrapping paper is emasculating and brose
24:01Angie Sullivan:rosé is rosé wine relabeled so men could drink pink without a crisis oh god i wonder if jesse waters has a bunch of this because you know he's like big on who's you know you men don't eat ice screen like that. Men don't cross their legs. Here's the thing. I have noticed coming across my social media, a lot of these, and I can't, and I'm so mad at myself. I didn't write it down, but it was like a branded bro, something that you can just buy every day. And I just thought that is pathetic. It is fucking pathetic on every front that this is happening. And I hope they all go bankrupt. So I believe I'm right about this.
24:42Angie Sullivan:I think that women are the buyers or the purchasers of these types of things in households. And then I would say when you get to the men category, gay men are better consumers, better for the economy than straight men by far. So this Pride Month, I'm calling for a boycott on all of those items from all of the gay treads, patriots, they treads, black treads, brown treads. Obviously we would never buy those, but I do. I think that they will probably all end up going bankrupt, but then the creatine and the wellness industry shit is like bananas. I mean, it's a multi, multi, multi-billion dollar industry.
25:29Angie Sullivan:And my mother told me something a long, long time ago. So, you know, before there was GLP ones, there were always like, you know, people on all of these, like, no carb diet, no this diet, no that diet. My mother taught us at a very young age, like moderation, eating in moderation. So fortunately, because she taught me that I've never had to struggle with my weight, but she would talk about people that would do these crash diets. And then my mother would say, well, you know, and then they just balloon right back up again in her voice. But she said something that has always stuck with me. She said, if you could bottle up what exercise does for your body and put it on a shelf, it would fly off.
26:09Angie Sullivan:And so I think people are always looking for a quick fix instead of just living a lifestyle. And our health care system enables this type of non-proactive style living. We are reactive to everything where in Europe and other places, walking, wellness checks, moderation and food is just a part of the lifestyle. In America, it's all gas, gas, gas. And then inevitably for Americans, if there's something that can make you muscular faster, make you skinny faster, make you this faster, make you that faster, everybody wants to buy it up. And we have the capitalism prohibits us from actually teaching people and nurturing a culture and a society where people learn to live a healthy lifestyle, in my opinion.
27:05No, I agree with that because, you know, I've struggled with my weight and I've did the apple cider vinegar diet, you know, all I've done all the things. So I completely get that. If I would have started as a young person, like exercising every day, eating a certain amount of calories, like paying attention to it, being aware of it. But it's not part of the. It's not culture. Yeah, no, it's not. And I'll tell you what, I'm so glad we started talking about wellness because this has been, I've been dying to bring this up to you and I keep forgetting. So this is perfect. So in Oklahoma City, there are two new places that are IV bars, which I thought IV bars where you got hammered, you went and got an IV for like fluids to help with the hangover.
27:55That's what I always thought they were. But these are like, you can get all these different. So I pull up to a place and I noticed next to it, there's an IV bar for every, so now we've taken supplements, like pill supplements, and now we've escalated it to, you have to go to an IV bar to get these supplements. And I was just like, oh my God, it's two of them. It's a racket and all of that man branded stuff is just preying on the insecurity of men that are like, these little tissues are gay.
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28:31Angie Sullivan:Rosé is gay. You know, like they are so insecure in their own masculinity. If you have to go buy something that affirms your masculinity, your mask, the foundation of your masculinity is not on strong footing, in my opinion. No, I completely agree. I mean, why can't you just eat Cheerios? Now, granted, they might not be infused with creatine, but I mean, like you said, just go get Cheerios. Like this is not new. You haven't invented something. It's ridiculous. All these fucking pussy men. I can't stand them. Well, and it's interesting because there's this whole like there's a sect of MAGA men that are like real into fitness.
29:13Angie Sullivan:But overwhelmingly, by and large, the crowds that I see at Trump rallies and that I saw at January 6 are pretty heavy. And Trump was aware of this because during January 6, it was reported that when he was in the dining room off of the Oval Office, he said, I wish my supporters didn't look so trashy, you know, because they're all, you know, they're all kind of dub tea, right? They're all white trash. And so when he had his UFC fight for his birthday party, I read that the Pentagon was going to offer them to people that were in the military, but only that had a certain height to waist ratio. ratio.
29:55Angie Sullivan:No fat, no fatties were allowed at the, uh, at the birthday party for Donald Trump. Is that crazy? Which I, you know, it's amazing to me how abusive he is to his own supporters. Oh, and they just like, and honestly, a lot of the Trump people that I know are, are heavy. I mean, it's, it's especially in the South. And I think Oklahoma is one of the more obese states there is. But it's amazing how he gets away with just browbeating and ridiculing his supporters, and they just go back up for more and more. It's really fascinating. Well, and I mean, I know I bring this up all the time, but he's the one that's pointing out everybody's weight and appearance.
30:41And I'm just like, are you fucking kidding me, fat ass?
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33:09Angie Sullivan:Okay, first we've got Danielle. Hi, I've had it. I am an American raised by MAGA people in the Bible Belt, but now I live in London. Sorry to brag that I got out. I have had it with performative vegetable virtue signaling. And what I mean here is I'm a waitress and this weekend someone ordered an omelet with four vegetables and then a green smoothie that was all vegetables and then was like, is there a side salad because I want to make sure I get in all my vegetables and it's like do you think you're better than me like why don't you go up to every single person in the restaurant and tell them that you just ordered almost entirely vegetables like you sound so unfun at parties like she probably just triathlons her friend across the table looked so defeated like she was choosing peace on the day of the lord I'm not even religious but it was a Sunday she wanted pancakes like let your friend have maple syrup just eat your vegetables and be quiet she just had to make sure i knew how many vegetables she was eating after ordering like 70 vegetables it's like what jen talks about with performative hydration it was virtue signaling eat your vegetables and shut the fuck up it's difficult all of this shit all of the it's difficult to eat with people and i was a waitress back in the day and before a lot of the food allergies and all of these things really caught on.
34:35Angie Sullivan:And it was mainly like, hold the onions, 86, the onions would be like the most, I couldn't imagine doing it now because the performative, the performative nature of eating, cause I'll just, everybody I ever met that was like, I'm gluten-free and gluten-free would get fucking shit face hammer drunk. And at 2am they're ordering pizza, which correct me if I'm wrong, is chock full of gluten. Yeah, it is unless it's gluten free. But I don't know. I don't think when you're hammered, you're doing that. You know what this reminds me of? That all of these people that all they're eating is vegetables is how bad their gas is.
35:14And that that just how I've been around somebody that only eats plant like plant based.
35:21Angie Sullivan:You're around somebody who eats plants and all All they do is fart. Have the worst gas. So when I think about all these people, like the RFK diet and all these performative vegetable eaters, I just think, oh my God, they have the worst gas. That's what I think. Have you seen these videos online where it's like Trump, you know, he's always sitting at the Resolute desk and he has like, you know, 1500 pink arm dipshit standing behind him and he's sitting there dozing off stroke victim lip down. and then it looks like he makes a face and then the person that's made the clip makes it look like did Trump just take a shit or did Trump just pass gas then watch the people behind him and the people are like have you seen those clips I fucking live for those clips I'm just waiting here's the thing I've had I've watched that like my kids have like run in and showed me like oh my god Trump farted at that desk where somebody's added a fart sound to the AI of course I've heard that every time I'm like, let me see it.
36:19And then I'm just like, no, I think I mean, but no, some of the people behind him, though,
36:24Angie Sullivan:the way I don't know if it's just really crafty, like real making like that are making the TikToks or the reels or whatever. But when you look and they're like, notice the people's face and you watch this again and look at the people behind him and you see Trump kind of make this face and then the people behind him are like, and it totally tracks. I want to believe it. And everybody knows, A, he's asleep and B, old people when they're asleep, they pass gas and don't know it. not that i think he would give a if he passed gas in front of you have experience on that well my grandparents were in their 90s when they died and they were farting around you not even knowing they did because i'd say oh my gosh you too did i and my grandmother would say i hate that people pass gas around you a lot don't they i guess have you never had an old person that just let it slide I'm sure I have.
37:20Angie Sullivan:I'm sure I have. Okay. Let's listen to the next voice memo. Okay. Up next we've got Lainey. Hi, Jen, Angie, and Kylie. This is Lainey from Michigan. Love the show. I just wanted to leave a voice message and tell you about some petty ass shit that I have gotten up to today that is just making my day. So I have been getting mail from Turning Point USA, which is wild to me. Someone must have sold my info. I vote progressive and I've been getting Democratic mailings for years. And all of a sudden I'm getting Turning Point mail, Erica Kirk mail. So gross. But today what I decided to do was stuff everything back in the prepaid envelope check the box for a generous donation of fill in the blank zero dollars.
38:17So you send that back and not only does it annoy them, but it supports the post office and they have to pay for the postage. So I did that. And not only did I do that, but I went ahead and went to Planned Parenthood's website and made an actual donation. And when you do that, you can make the donation in honor of someone. So I went ahead and put Erica Kirk and turning points address. So Planned Parenthood will be sending them a postcard informing them of my donation in their name. Really?
38:55Angie Sullivan:That is, that is patriotism right up there with the dominatrix of Big Titty Brian. I mean, everyday Americans are leading the way and resisting in ways that the Republican Party is not able to do. Everyday Americans are standing up for women in ways that Erica Kirk is trying to tear down. This is brilliant. Listener. Brilliant. Patriots, gay-triots, they-triots, fem-triots. Everybody should go to Planned Parenthood right now, donate$5,$10,$20,$100, and do it in the name of Erica Kirk. I love this idea. This is pure brilliance. Like, I'm so mad that I have never thought of this. That's the smartest thing I've ever heard.
39:38I think that is. Yeah, it's incredible. All right, let's do one more caller. I also just want to say I've had two friends that have gotten mail from Erica Kirk in the last month as well. So I don't know. They're buying people's.
39:51Angie Sullivan:Here's the thing. I think Turning Point is having financial problems. I don't have any evidence for that. I just think they are. And I think that it is it will be bankrupt soon. And I I think she's spiraling out. And I think a lot of these people that went all chips in on Trump, went all trips in on MAGA are spiraling out because number one, he's dying. We've seen it. We just talked about him shitting his pants behind the Resolute desk, which is what appears to happen on these Instagram TikToks, things that we look at all the time. But I think that they are just spiraling to try to get the movement to take off again.
40:25Angie Sullivan:And yes, there are way too many bat shit, crazy, anti-women women in this world that will fight against all of this stuff. And then one day they're going to need it. And it's going to be like, oh my God, I need this service or, oh my God, this person did this to me because I was a woman. But I think turning point is cooked. There's no way evolved women are going to go along with that shit. Now, these Bible thumper Bible moms, yes, they'll go along with it because they're married to pink arm dipshits that are probably on Grindr, you know. And so I just think I think that the turning point situation, much like the Moms of Liberty, is going to produce a huge midlife lesbianism boom in about a decade.
41:17Angie Sullivan:i'm gonna do date this i think maga and turning point yep yes i think we are going to see a huge midlife lesbianism boom at about 10 years from now these women are buying into this they're going along with their husbands it's pink arm city and then they will have had it at some point and the turning point ladies are going to start scissoring each other 10 years from today hide and watch if not sooner if not sooner it's going to be it's going to be scissor point
41:53scissor point with erica kirk since your point usa and here's what she can do and her coming out
42:00Angie Sullivan:just like charlie kirk's funeral with the pyrotechnics she could have this stage right and she could open the door and then kick the door down and the hinges like fly off like confetti all everywhere and she's like surprise surprise and she brings out her wife and she's like it's no longer turning point and the fireworks go off she's it's scissor point the patriarchy and then she has like a pride flag and all this shit and everybody's like we still hate your guts yeah we still hate you oh my god that's scissor point that's one of my favorite things we've touched on this a little but if you go on a tiktok deep dive there is a lot of lesbian investigation of erica kirk her past roommate her past comments on instagram there's a whole black hole to go into on that i like that type of research i support it yeah yeah i'm all in i don't support it on everyday people that are living their life privately but on somebody like erica kirk who will not shut the fuck up who gave a weird video in a sniper outfit and you know i had a firework funeral for her husband has never once talked about gun control or mental well-being none of this shit fuck her i love the people investigating her scissor point this is a point okay last one up next we've got jackie and jen this reminds me of a commercial you and i saw just the other day what's up team i'm jackie i live in new jersey and like pumps i've been watching a lot of the women's world series because i am obsessed with softball and i love it okay but that also means that i've been subject to the same three commercials after every top and bottom of every inning.
43:57And so what I've had it with is just this marketing that we do for men. For example, Weber Grills comes on and they're like, they're like, Weber Grills, the most manly shit you can do. Put your meat here on the grill, cook it up, put your man meat on here, flip it over, but not for too long. You don't want it to be well done because you like it rare because you're a fucking man weber grills you know when they put the the man with like the lowest possible most masculine voice on there and then of course they need to say the obvious because of their target audience and so they're like weber grills sold wherever weber grills are sold and so that's what i've had it with it's just this crazy target at marketing that is just so gross and like, how can these people not understand that, that they're targeting you and, and, and, and I've just, I've had it.
44:53Okay.
44:57Angie Sullivan:In Oklahoma, it's really bad. It's like Ford truck, Oklahoma standard. And this is something, here's something I want to say to all of the brave blue dots in a red state that proudly cause good trouble and let the people around you know that you are not down with their dehumanization, with their taking away woman's right to choose, with their racism, et cetera. Those of you that are quiet about it, fuck you. That's worse. But to all of the loud and proud progressives in blue states, I'm not talking to you. But I saw something came across my feed and it was like, such and such exemplifies the Oklahoma standard.
45:41Angie Sullivan:And I was like, what is the Oklahoma standard 50th in education 50th for women is is is that the standard the these people went and you could vote to raise the minimum wage and they voted no governor dipshit letting his donors out who like practically killed a person in a drunken driving thing like it's just i think what amazes me about republican christians is how good they think they are at shit when they're literally a walking breathing example of how not to do something like oklahoma is an example of how not to govern how to race to the bottom but governor dipshit governor stick gets out and he's like we're top 10 state i'm like and what what are you talking about?
46:32Angie Sullivan:Like, what are you talking about? That's just, it's not true. It's objectively not true. The thing about it is I hear that shit all the time. What is the Oklahoma standard? Like, like you said, like poor people, uh, murder, like all the gun violence. I was had this statistic pulled up of all the shit, like everything that's bad that you don't want in your community, is in Oklahoma. And when he said that about the top 10 state or the Oklahoma standard, shut the fuck up. The standard should be higher. If this is your standard, you should want more. You should be better, but they don't want to be better.
47:19Angie Sullivan:It's devastating. Like living there for so long and watching people actively go out and vote against the well-being of everybody and just lap up all of this propaganda without any critical thinking. And when I read the results of the most recent primary where they put that state question to raise the minimum wage for one of the poorest states in the country. And I think about all of the places I've been in Oklahoma where people work minimum wage. And then here's the fucked up thing about it. So if you live in Oklahoma, there's an ice cream store called Brahms and it's delicious. Like it's a chain in Oklahoma and Texas.
48:02Angie Sullivan:They have great ice cream, great shit. Uh, the drive through is notoriously difficult to get through. And I would always remind my kids and husband, like these people make minimum wage. Don't be a dick. Do not be a dick. Inevitably I'd end up going through with another mom or something. And just the way these privileged white people treat people that make minimum wage and how demeaning and punching down they are to them is something I've witnessed my entire life in Oklahoma City. So not only do the people that work minimum wage, not only were they probably able to go out and vote for a higher wage, The people who should be advocating for them don't.
48:48Angie Sullivan:And it's just it's really it's really disgusting when you see Republican policies, Republican super majorities, and especially a religious state with mega churches on every corner that are making hundreds of millions of tax free dollars that the churches aren't getting skin in the game. saying go vote. I mean, they're doing it, go vote for Trump. It's just, it's really disgusting. It is an example of by design, Oklahoma is 50th in education. And they did that on purpose. And the votes, the election results on Tuesday show you that project 2025, make a dumb electorate, make an electorate that will go vote against their wellbeing.
49:35Angie Sullivan:And that won't even think about a greater cause other than themselves. Like, of course we need to pay people more than$7 an hour. Right. Keeping people dumb works because they get everything they want in Oklahoma. They get the race to the bottom. The oil and gas people make a shit ton of money. White people reign supreme and they get all of the rubes to go out and vote against their self-interest. And they get the Christians to run around and think that they are a holy state and they do all of this shit without impunity and all the mega church pastors in Oklahoma, you guys, they've got hundreds of millions in the bank and an airplane hanger with private planes in them.
50:11Angie Sullivan:And they're all MAGA. Yeah. All of, I mean, I can attest to every single thing you just said. Yes, yes, yes, yes. You know, and I guess what really strikes me is all, I mean, like, and, and I, I did it. So I understand like unless something hits you you don't notice it you don't pay attention it doesn't affect you so you have no empathy you're elitist you're selfish narcissistic all the things but then like when it comes to I thought there would be a huge wake-up moment like with especially when women's rights were taken away that women would stand up and say we're not allowing this full stop we have daughters you know now they're wanting to take away a woman's right to vote So it just, the women for me are the most disappointing.
51:04And again, very religious, doesn't happen to them. But I think it's a privilege. Like if you don't have to worry about that, because if it happened to you or your daughter, you could go somewhere else and, you know, do what you want and have reproductive freedom. And it's just, it's, it's stunning to me. I still could just honestly, I could sit down and cry about it sometimes how ridiculous it is. People voting against their own self-interest. And I have some empathy for it because I've done it. But you have to do better. You have to evolve. You have to educate yourself. And it just it enrages me.
51:45Angie Sullivan:Yeah, I don't have any empathy for it. I've none because on a lot on a lot of levels, a lot of the people that do this are consciously aware of how cruel they are. They edit the things they say in front of some people. And then when they say something, well, I don't care if that doesn't affect me, but they wouldn't say that around somebody else. There is a willful, uh, cruelty in all of this. And there it's hard for me to have empathy for people that have all the privilege in the world that actively, uh, brag about, well, that doesn't affect me. Well, shut the fuck up. And it is a cultural problem in the Bible belt.
52:22Angie Sullivan:And it is symptomatic of, uh, Republican super majorities with a big dose of mega church culture in there. And it creates a culture where women and men that go to these mega churches think their higher power does personal little favors for them. Little, it's not about like what the Pope talks about, like these big gestures of, uh, uh, genocide in Gaza or, you know, hunger, poverty, consolidation of wealth with power, evil people. It's not about any of that. They keep you dumbed down by focusing on like, well, you know, if you want that raise, you're going to have to tithe. And, you know, and it's all these little and then then I would hear people growing up like, you know, I really needed an extra couple hundred bucks.
53:15Angie Sullivan:and I got a gig to do like a babysitting job. And it's because I tithed that Sunday. And I would be like, if you wouldn't have tithed, you still would have gotten the phone call for the babysitting job. But it creates a culture that is uniquely narcissistic and that traffics in recreational cruelty because the women I know that do this are abundantly aware. They are aware that their mindset is cruel and they say knowingly, I know that and I don't care. They say it. So I don't have empathy for people that can look me in the eye and say they don't care about other people. I just don't. I have empathy for like the rural Oklahoman that's never been anywhere, but their church, they don't have any money.
54:01The church is the only place they go and they're, they're just not educated. I think women and upper middle class people and people with access to the internet and all of those things, I don't have empathy for them because they should know better. They could know better.
54:15Angie Sullivan:But I do like, I agree with you about the rule thing. Like they've been, nobody's delivered for them material in the democratic party or the Republican party. And it's, I agree with you. I have empathy for that too. But, um, it is the aforementioned people that we're talking about that enabled that I saw on this on this uh election to raise the minimum wage it was the rural areas voted to raise it and it was the urban richer area codes that voted no and that tells tells you everything about how rigged the system is and how unempathetic white christian capitalists are as a whole it's pretty gross all right that's all we have please like subscribe comment pre-order my book not today fascists here it is.
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