The Emperor’s New Wig

22:41Jennifer:Jeff Hambrecht, the founder of Proverbs 2717 Fitness in Oklahoma City said, in a nut, again, I don't know if in a nutshell,

23:01Jennifer:I don't know if a pun was intended there or not, because we have so far top and nut. In a nutshell, one of the number one places that affairs and infidelity occur, cheating, is the gym. Byproduct is someone who had an affair in my previous marriage. Doesn't work out well for you fellas. Proverbs 2717 Fitness website states that the gym is for men tired of lukewarm faith. Men who know they were made for more and men ready to train hard.

23:45Jennifer:Pray harder. And walk boldly. The website also shares that, quote, There was a season of Hambrecht's life marked by homelessness, addiction, and spiritual emptiness. In another video, he shares that he had a pornography addiction for almost 20 years. Now, I'm not... Okay. Addiction is very real. And I'm very happy that Mr. Hambrecht is sober. What he's done here, you guys, is he has exchanged his addiction to pornography and drugs to religious addiction. This is a religious addict. This is religious addiction. This is an incubator for gay stuff. That's what it is. This is where the gay stuff is going to go down, right here.

24:48Jennifer:Yeah, absolutely. In this MAGA Christian gym. It's a pickup. It's a gay bar pickup spot disguised as a gym. And you can tell your wife, oh, well, I'm going to the gym. And you know, there's no women. It's a Jesus gym because they're on top and they pray harder. I mean, like this is the worst idea. And here's the thing. Fundamentally, this really bothers me because all my life, you know, men's sexual deviance and abuse somehow was tailored to mean that it's the woman's fault. So now if we don't have women at the gym, men won't cheat. And maybe that's not the point he's making, but that's what I see.

25:31Women's skirts are too short and that's why, you know, men have to rape women. That's a whole separate issue. But the thing about this guy is he's running around trying to not have men having affairs, yet he's opening up the door for all these men that have been dying to have affairs with men. It's just like, can you imagine the locker room at this place? Can you imagine what's going to go on at the sauna in this place? And then they're all going to walk around saying how much this changed their lives. They're fit for Jesus. Like, it's just, it's so gross. It's so, And here's another thing. Like he said around, presumably he didn't just, I have this idea.

26:16I'm putting it on the internet. I'm paying the deposit and I'm opening up a gym. I would assume he talked to other people and other people were like, oh my God, that's the best idea I've ever heard. Nobody said, have you ever thought that maybe this is going to be perceived as a gay hookup spot? Like, this is like, you shouldn't put harder and ball and nut and top in your announcement video. It's like nobody had a clear head when this whole thing went down.

26:45Jennifer:Well, you have to start with the fact that they want to have a Christian gym. Right. You know what I mean? Like at that point, like whether it's men, women, whatever the like that somehow they're having a Christian fitness. This is this is crazy town. This is Maha crazy shit. And this obviously came about because this guy, Jeff, from our hometown of Oklahoma City, which I know a million of these kind of guys. They can't keep their dick in their pants because they were raised evangelical Christian and told no sex, no sex, no sex. Sex is dirty. Sex is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. They never had a sexual education.

27:31Jennifer:They probably saw their dads belittle their mothers. They have all of these issues. And therapy is way, you know, far out of the scope. And so they think that this Christian gym is somehow going to fix them and it won't. It will not fix them. He's still going to be a deviant. He's still going to have issues. And now probably, you know, this porn addiction, we don't know what kind of porn it was. But this is not the answer. This is so stupid. But Oklahoma City isn't the only city that's getting male-only gems. Mitch Parsons of Denver, Colorado took to Instagram to explain why he's opening up his own.

28:13Jennifer:Let's play the clip. I'm tired of having nakedness shoved in my face every time I went to the gym, walking around with my eyes on the floor because culture has said that wearing little to no clothing is an acceptable way to go and train your body. Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you how to dress and how you can or cannot dress, but I will say that I shouldn't have to fight for my marriage and for my purity and to guard my eyes and to honor the Lord and to honor my wife while at the same time trying to take care of my body. So I've quit four gyms and I haven't found one that I can go to where I feel like I can have the best of both worlds.

28:56Jennifer:Wow. Well, he's great for gyms because he he thinks that just because he's on a diet doesn't mean that he can't read the menu. You know, newsflash, you can go to the gym and go. She's pretty hot. What a great bod she has on her and just keep that to yourself. But in this evangelical Christian world, he thinks that's a sin. He thinks something so normal makes him bad, makes him inherently wrong. And then, of course, he probably doesn't have the impulse control. He's probably a chronic masturbator out the wazoo is why probably catches him yanking it all the time. And he thinks this this gay gym is going to fix him.

29:36Jennifer:And it's not. These people are so broken because their religion is a cult. Evangelical Christianity is a death cult. Sexually repressed death cult. There is so much shame around being naked in the evangelical Christian movement. And I know that because I loved it. But here's the thing. Obviously, he gets turned on by this shit. You know, I have seen, I mean, I've never seen naked men at the gym. But, I mean, when you go into the locker room, people are changing or whatever. I've never been like, oh, my gosh, I'm so sexually charged. I don't feel pure. Like, that tells me he is totally aroused by naked people.

30:14Obviously, women, because he now has to quit four gyms and start his own where there are no naked women. But what a fucking nutball. These people are just nutballs. And here's the problem that we have.

30:26Jennifer:Here's the problem. We have to address that right now. MAGA is especially with Abdul Al-Sayed's victory in Michigan. They're going to start all this Sharia law nonsense and we're free and blah, blah. And those of us that have grown up in the Bible belt, the real threat to the United States is this sect of Christianity. If you're offended by the faith of Islam and there are certain countries and certain sects that go SECTS, they go really far and the women have to wear like a burqa. What is the difference between that and this guy? I mean, this guy's blaming his inability to go. She's hot and then go about his day that he's had to quit four gyms.

31:16Jennifer:And this is what this is the fundamental problem in the United States is the crazy Christian problem. And I'd like to welcome all the Fox producers again. I said it. The crazy Christian problem is the fundamental problem. These people have never had a sex education. Nobody's ever sat down with them and said, it's so normal to find other people attractive. That's just, you know, there's eye candy everywhere you go, but you are responsible for you and you need to be respectful. nobody's ever taught him what consent means what a harmless attraction is and so then you have this unhinged guy that sat down with his cell phone and hit record and said I had to quit four gyms because of what other women are wearing in gyms because I have absolutely zero self-control and somehow wraps it all up into his faith.

32:13Jennifer:I mean, this is some weird shit. And all of these people vote for Donald Trump who fucked a porn star. I mean, you know, see, people always go, how could they vote for him? Well, because they like that he got away with all the shit that they want to do or masturbate to doing. They love it because they're just like him. Yeah. fuck on fuck around on your wife but get to keep all the you know the beauties of marriage or whatever not that he and melanie are some love story by any stretch but you know steal money get to keep it commit fraud don't go to jail like he is the king of getting away with shit like i started thinking like karma is not real because donald trump is not in prison like that's he just get he just seems to this point get away with everything and he's 80 fucking years old Yeah.

33:02And here's the thing.

33:03Jennifer:I always say he looks like shit, which he does. But for 80, 80, that's the thing. When I'm really objective about it, I'm like, I really wish he looked worse. Like, he's not looking bad enough for me yet. You know, the fact that he's walking up the stairs to the plane, walking down the stairs to the plane, I haven't seen him fall down. I mean, there's just an escalation in the health decline that I'm ready to see. And again, I'd like to welcome the Fox News producers watching this part. but you know what to me I agree with you just on physical appearance but he's gained so much weight lately I feel like and on top of that once he begins speaking and the cognitive decline it makes him look so I mean he seems 150 years old when he starts talking because he makes no sense he slurs around he's you know he's slumped over has to sit down so his mental issues have really deteriorated his physical just observationally for me.

34:03Jennifer:I want it to be worse. Yeah, I do too. Okay. So we've, we've covered this before, but I want to circle back on the alpha male camps. So with the MAGA men, you have the people that listen to Joe Rogan and you have, you know, all the, the brosphere, and then you have the Christian gyms that are popping up. We saw the video of RFK and Kid Rock getting into a hot tub together drinking milk in their jeans. Just can't unsee that. But now some men are flying halfway across the world to attend alpha male camps. Pop this up. Bougie alpha male retreat bans women for holding back their growth. But critics call it an echo chamber of misogyny.

34:52Jennifer:Gals and persona non grata at Bali Time Chamber, a mountaintop retreat in northern Indonesia catering exclusively to men, quote, looking to level up in their life. It's a gender-based ban reportedly predicated on the belief that females simply don't let people grow. according to the controversial getaways viral videos women can't access this place the place banned everything that's not making people grow per promotional clip from the resort social media profile shared to reddit no women allowed inside continued the snippet the secret location only accepts men who want to work on their physique, grow their business and meet like-minded individuals.

35:46I mean, so clearly this is a closet gay camp is what I'm reading into that. 100%. You're hiding. You're in a secret location. Anything that won't help you grow.

35:57Jennifer:Working on your physique. Working on your physique and not letting you grow, but yet you're on Reddit and social media going viral with clips. I mean, bitch, please. But you know what? People will go. They'll go and they'll be, I have rededicated myself to being an alpha male. And I'm all right. And here's a screen grab of how they chose to market their alpha male camps. Pop this up. Men are coming. And it has, for those of you listening, it says men are coming and it has four men in their little britches, topless, barefoot, walking together. And it says men are coming. And then in the next one, it says no women.

36:41Jennifer:And it shows five men again in their little britches, topless, flexing their muscles. And so I just, I've said it once and I'm going to say it again. the Democratic Party has all the cool LGBTQ plus gay people everywhere in every community every country everywhere they're everywhere they're not going anywhere Maggie you just have the shitty dorky diabolical ones we have all the cool gays we have pride month you guys need to start having shame month I can't believe that's their ad I can it looks like an ad for Grindr I can. I can believe it. All right, you guys, I have to share a little secret with you.

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40:57Jennifer:They have no choice but to hear the truth, said Whitney Lynn, an evangelist, producer and singer songwriter from Orlando who said she preaches on most flights she takes, filming the proclamations for social media. When I have a gift and I have a life raft, if you're drowning, I want to give you that life raft so you can be saved. Here's a video. Play the clip. But I want to tell you who is so perfect and so beautiful, better than anything in this life is knowing Jesus Christ personally as Lord and Savior. He died on the cross for all your sins. I've heard enough. This is religious psychosis. And here's something that you have to understand for those of you who don't live in the Bible about.

41:48Jennifer:It is such a tell how insecure evangelicals are in their religion. The fact that they have to project and recruit other people. If you're happy and peaceful with something in your life, there's no itch that you have to go project it onto other people and make other people think and believe the same way you believe. This religion is based on the prosperity gospel gospel pyramid scheme where the mega church pastor is at the top and he emotionally blackmails the members of his congregation to tithe, to tithe and wealth will trickle down. And this is where MAGA and American capitalism, MAGA Christianity and American capitalism perfectly dovetail.

42:40Jennifer:The way American capitalism via the Republican Party is propagandized is that wealth will trickle down. The exact same thing happens to these megachurch pastors. They have all of, they live this big life. They have these fancy cars. They have private planes. They have stylists. And then they tell their poor congregants that if you, if you tithe, then this wealth will trickle down to you. Jesus will favor you. God will favor you. And so that's why so many evangelical Christians support MAGA policies, because when you go to a mega church, they throw in a little bit of the Jesus stuff. But a lot of it is all about this.

43:25Jennifer:Like that guy who said he had to quit the gym four times. It's this Christian narcissism. narcissism, if that guy would stop focusing on thinking people are hot and focus on helping people and accept that as a human being, I'm going to think people are hot, then he could live a much better life than what he's living right now. But the church he goes to is going to keep him in this state where he feels like he was born bad and he is a bad guy. And you keep going back to the church and you keep giving them money because it is a cult. It is a death cult. It is a grift. And if any of you go to any church and your pastor or your priest isn't speaking about the egregious human rights violations happening to the most marginalized among us, you're getting ripped off and you're in a cult.

44:13Jennifer:And it's just that simple. And America has a crazy Christian problem. We just do. Well, I grew up in an evangelical Christian church, and I never once was encouraged to have empathy for other people. like we might hit on, you know, feed the poor, you know, heal the sick, that kind of thing. But the minute you walk out, it was judgment, we're better. And so the narcissism and the entitlement that you feel from that keeps you completely unable to put yourself in somebody else's situation until it happens to you. And the thing about this really that bothers me, number one, I'm going on a flight tomorrow.

44:50And that makes me nervous. Like, am I going to get her on my flight. I've been workshopping ever since I saw this video on exactly what I would say. I can run it by you after. But it's that my beliefs, whether you believe them or not, you have to believe them because I know better for you. And I understand the mindset. I was raised and indoctrinated in that mindset and it is dangerous. It keeps you from making good decisions. It keeps you in situations that you should not be because you feel like you have the divine power and righteousness to fuck other people over and harm yourself even because you are such a, you know, you're such a unique gift and it's so devastating.

45:38But telling people that don't, that believe differently than you, that you know better than they do about their lives. It just, it's like nails on a chalkboard. I hate it. I could not fucking stand it. And it's everywhere across the board on every issue, on every issue.

45:58Jennifer:Yeah, I mean, especially if you live in the Bible, you can imagine my whole existence in Oklahoma. I mean, people found out that I wasn't religious, that I didn't go to a church, and they felt like that was their business. They felt like in a real toxic, codependent way that it was their business. And it just simply is not. It's simply not their business. When I find out somebody goes to church, I don't have an overwhelming desire to deprogram them. I'm like, okay, swing for the fences. That's your business. It doesn't affect my life. What is affecting our lives is how organized these church leaders that are grifters and cult leaders, how organized they are within the Republican Party to mobilize voters to go vote against their faith and vote against the best interest of the country.

46:52Jennifer:And these evangelists, I've dealt with this my entire life in Oklahoma, entire life. And what is so infuriating about it is when you tell somebody, no, I'm not interested, they do not accept that boundary because they think they know the answers of existentialism. They think they know the answers of the universe. I have zero, zero, zero desire to have a conversation with somebody who thinks the earth is 6 ,000 years old because it's just, I don't want to argue facts. recently that um what's the thing called kylie where they asked me to come on where the person sits and they do oh um jubilee jubilee about a few months ago jubilee asked me to go on and debate this ally beth stucky or she's some right-winger bible thumper right and she's the one who wrote the book about toxic empathy and that's i don't i just don't want to sit down and argue facts with somebody.

47:58Jennifer:I don't think it's productive. She thinks empathy is toxic. Go rip off all your people, exploit your faith, be a walking, talking, breathing example as to why the numbers of Christianity are falling. But I just, I don't think it's helpful to argue facts. I think it contributes to the misinformation machine that we're in. I would sit down and talk about religion with somebody who acknowledged that the earth is billions of years old and that more than likely we evolved, but that they have some sort of feeling that there is some sort of higher power or higher entity. That's a conversation I'm willing to have when we all arrive at facts.

48:45Jennifer:But I think it was Ricky Gervais that said, if you right now, if we lost all of the information on the planet, all the, you know, the, the Torah, the, uh, Quran, the Bible, um, all of the other religious religions that are, you know, there's thousands and thousands of thousands of religions that are, are now, you know, not practiced anymore. But if we lost all the documents on the earth, and then a new generation of people came, these religions would not be duplicated, but the science would be right. The discoveries of science would be, they would be duplicated because it's seeking the truth. So I don't think it's fruitful to have a conversation because I've had too many of them with too many, uh, really broken people that, um, subscribe to this whack job, evangelical cult that think that what I believe and how I feel is their business.

49:47Jennifer:And And when I look at these people, like they're total pieces of shit. Like they don't care about little kids if they're brown skin or if their parents speak Spanish as their first language. They they don't care about people that are poor, people that are on food stamps. They demean them. And so I just not only do I think these people are stupid because the information is out there to make yourself more intelligent. I also think they're morally depraved. And I just like these freaks on airplanes. It's just nuts. She here's here's she calls this situation spiritual warfare. That's what I'm talking about.

50:27Jennifer:Like if you think that there's demons and angels running around on the planet all the time and they're fighting, shut up. That's not happening. It's absolutely 100 percent not happening. There is no such thing as spiritual warfare. When you're indoctrinated like that, you dig so deep in the indoctrination, though. Critical thinking, I developed that past 30. You know what I mean? Because you're taught you can't think. You can't think rationally because then you're questioning your faith. It's the biggest mindset on the planet. Which makes it a cold. Well, 100%. I'm not—yeah, I agree. The questioning.

51:03I'm going to tell you what happened to me. What? While you were gone. What? Okay, so I get a text. I never go into my unknown sender box because it's just different people from the DNC that I've totally unsubscribed a thousand times. So I go in and there's a text and it says, Angie, thank you so much for your interest in the Church of Latter-day Saints. We're going to be in your area and we would love to set up a time to come and visit with you. And I just was like, when did I show? And I just texted back. No, thank you. And then they texted me back again. Please, it won't take. I mean, I can't remember.

51:48I'm paraphrasing. Did you meet with the Mormons? No. So then I just text back. I am not interested in getting to know you or your faith. Please quit texting me. And then they texted back. Thumbs up. and please keep this number because we will all be, we will be available to field your concerns or something. And I was just like, what the fuck now they're texting people. Where did they get my number? It's not like I signed up for a Mormon support group situation, but yeah, I thought that was interesting. Instead of going door to door, now they're texting people.

52:24Jennifer:Yeah. They've evolved. They've had to evolve. Yeah. I mean, this is like, you look at the Catholic church, the new pope, he's evolving. He's more socially liberal than past popes, because at the end of the day, big church is a business and they have to evolve to stay in business. And so, you know, they're going to continue to find ways to stay relevant and to evolve. But for me, I mean, for those of you that listen, that have some sort of sense of spirituality, I don't mean any shade to you. That's your business and it's hard to be an adult and it's hard to be alive. And if it makes you a better person and centers you good on you.

53:00Jennifer:What I cannot stomach are these hysterical religious people that have to throw their faith out in public all the time. Shut up. Nobody wants to hear it. And you're, you're like in a commercial for not having a faith. Like every time I hear it like this, this nut on the airplane, I would just think she needs to go to a mental institution. That is religious psychosis. Yeah. And I just, I'm, I don't ever want to be on a plane with her. I kind of want you to sit down with the Mormons just so we have content for the show. I kind of imagine like two, two, you know, young men in their black pants in their white shirts.

53:40I mean, of course, I went to Book of Mormon outfit coming up to my door. I think they wear those outfits. Hello. Yeah. I saw some Mormons not too long ago. And I can't remember where, like they were, I think I was driving and they were walking in a neighborhood and I just thought, oh God.

53:56Jennifer:The recruiting aspect of it is such a tell as to what a grift the religion is. The fact that they have to recruit, you know, that is just. But that's the same in evangelical Christian. I was taught you how to recruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that shows you what a grift it is, what a business model it is. All right. That's we did enough MAGA bashing and Trump bashing. and these I need for you to go to that gym in Oklahoma City. Oh, I'm already driving by. The first thing I'm going to do is Google it. Do you know Jeff Hambrecht? Do you know him? What was the name of it? Like Proverbs 27? Because I'm going to Google it when we get off.

54:41Jennifer:Proverbs 2717. 2717. It's about sharpening someone else's iron. It says iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another. Got it. Iron sharpens iron. Got it. Okay. I will send pictures to Kylie with an update on that. Everyone knows my photographing skills are excellent. Boots on the ground. All right. Pumps is going on vacation, so I'll figure out what I'm going to do before I've had it in her absence. maybe I'll have a guest host maybe I'll just listen to voice memos I don't know we'll figure it out as we go make sure you pre-order my book and we'll see you all later