The Patriotic Jerk Off

23:52Angie Sullivan:I don't know that this is going to be a public country by country masturbation. I thought that perhaps this would probably be you beat off in a cup and then the scientists, you know, do the, do the in vitro type situation and release them. That was my thing, but my head's not in the gutter like yours is all the time. Kylie, do you know, is this going to be public masturbation? People are going to have microscopes watching the sperm go play. I'm pretty sure there's zero masturbation involved. Well, there would have to be masturbation, public, public masturbation for pumps. Well, that's disappointing.

24:32Angie Sullivan:Yeah. It's in a cup. Ryan just looked it up. It's in a cup. That means they're not the fastest. Well, I think what they're talking about is they're in a cup and then it's like the whole in vitro process. And then they sent, they freeze them and then they send them off to go find the egg. That's the thing. But my point is, I doubt Stephen Miller was an in vitro baby. And he's just a prime example that he was that he was his dad's fastest swimmer that day. Stephen Miller, Stephen Miller was somebody's fastest swimmer. So I don't know that if you win this, you win. I think you could win and lose because Because in the case of the swimmers that swam on that fateful night between the two Millers, the worst swimmer won.

25:21Angie Sullivan:He might have been a little faster. But my God, what a horrific specimen, non-specimen of a mangled, just horrible human being. And of course, he finds his equal and his soulmate in Katie Miller. He's the absolute equal in being vile. Yeah. All right. That's so disturbing. All right. A MAGA woman decides to go on Reddit. And let's pop this up. A Trump supporter with a liberal boyfriend said, ask me anything. And the internet did not hold back. She posts, I'm a Trump supporter and my boyfriend is a Trump hating liberal. Ask me anything. When I say Trump supporter, I mean I think he's the least bad option.

26:10Angie Sullivan:I voted for him because I'd consider him to be less harmful to the country than the Democrats. I consider myself a centrist politically. My boyfriend is a liberal and he supports Bernie Sanders and hates Trump. He actually said that when we first started dating, he thought I was a neo-Nazi. But I cleared that up. But I cleared up that little misunderstanding. standing. We first met in class and became friends. Then he asked me out and we started dating. I didn't know his political ideology at first and assumed he was conservative because he was blonde and didn't look liberal. That's not Nazi Aryan at all.

26:50Angie Sullivan:That's not a tell as to why you're a Trumpeter, you fucking Nazi. And at the time I had a fear of liberals because I'm a Nazi who only thinks blonde people are conservative. We sometimes debate about politics and we usually agree to disagree. Although he hates Trump himself, he isn't insane and still views Trump supporters as human. He also thinks the only reason I like Trump is because I was indoctrinated by Fox since I watched it a lot as a kid. Please be respectful. If you aren't interested in having a civil or productive discussion, then feel free to skip this post. So of course we have to dive right into the comments, which did not disappoint at all.

27:40Angie Sullivan:Uh, Western mall says, was it because Harris was a woman or because she wasn't white was the reason you couldn't vote for her? And then Eastern cow says, why do you have so much hate? Do you think brown skin is bad? And then J.R.R.92 says, what's it like to be so misguided and hateful that you listen to the things that come out of Trump's mouth and see a strong leader? All right. So here was a specific question. Is that what this is, Kylie? Okay. So then somebody asked her, what do you mean? Because he was blonde. He didn't, quote, look liberal. And they drew a picture of a blonde person with blue eyes and did an arrow that says automatically conservative, apparently.

28:28Angie Sullivan:And she answers it. At the time, I thought I'd be able to tell if someone was liberal by how crazy they look, like dyed hair, piercings, et cetera. And then another question. Has your fear of liberals reduced? I find it interesting that you consider yourself a centrist, but have a fear of liberals. I wasn't a centrist at the time. I was raised in a conservative political, not religious household, and I was mostly a loner during my childhood. In elementary school, I once said Obama sucks, and I got bullied for it. So I wasn't a fan of Democrats. In high school, I was a loner, and the only social interaction I had was when I watched TV with my parents.

29:10Angie Sullivan:We often watch Fox News and I'd also watch conservative YouTubers. I developed a fear of liberals and Democrats because they are always portrayed as unstable and violent. So here's what I have to say about this. The driving ethos behind MAGA is fear. Everything through that whole thing is she's scared, scared, scared, scared, scared of liberals. I'm not really scared of conservatives remotely because they're all puss boys. Like, it's just like they're these people, Musk, Trump, Vance, Moses, Mike, Grindr Johnson, Lindsey Graham with his bubble wand. I mean, these guys are just not even remotely scary.

30:01Angie Sullivan:Now, when they organize behind the Heritage Foundation or Money with Peter Thiel, that's the scary shit. But all of the whole right wing media ecosystem, it's just all built on fear. And psychologists have studied it. Conservatives are more fear based. They get they get scared easier. There's a part of their brain that activates to fear. And these people are scared. They're scaredy cats. Yeah, I just want to say before I have any other comment, I think that you have the best voiceovers, which we've discussed. Like I used to love a dramatic ring, but the way you can like do your accents and stuff, I find it very impressive, Jennifer.

30:41I really do. I appreciate the support from my co-host.

30:44Angie Sullivan:I've just learned of the skill that you have. And I just want to say, I enjoy it a lot. It's great now that you're liberal and I don't have to browbeat you for holding Republican, Christian, patriarchal, racist, homophobic views. Now we can share other parts of our personalities with each other. It's been dormant. Didn't have the time to spend it. You know, here's the thing. To the fear point, like my mother sits and watches Fox News. If I say I'm going to New York, she's worried about crime. She is. I know what's playing on Fox News because of the crime. It's always crime. You know, during the election, it's crime, immigrants from the border, crime, crime, crime.

31:25And this is a person that never once in her life has been affected by crime other than like a speeding ticket. But she sits and fears crime.

31:35Angie Sullivan:So I think there's something to the fear. There's a psychological reason for that. Yeah. And she's super authoritarian. And authoritarian personalities gravitate towards this type of regime too. Like authoritarian parenting. She's an authoritarian personality. And then the fear through line is like a bunch of psychologists, years long, decades long study. And I've read it before. I'm not completely. What it boiled down to was this, was basically they hooked up conservatives, liberals, and conservatives are more triggered by fear. Yeah, I see that. I see that firsthand. And then here's the thing.

32:17This is what I've had it with. This should always be my overarching hat. I've had it with the, they were both bad. So I just chose one that just tells me you're not, you don't give a fuck. And you're just going with your, uh, you know, your underlying bigotry and stuff like that. Because if you paid any attention or you even gave it a light Goog, you would find out that they're not both bad. They're, I mean, I'm not saying they're both perfect. Like either side is without fault. but they're not the same in terms of they're both bad and then just one other thing is like it doesn't surprise me that this person was a loner and she reached out you know what i mean like you see a lot of the right wing they're isolated they don't have a community they're loners

33:11Angie Sullivan:um but there's a lot of right wingers that have communities i mean no i know but i'm just saying And you like you just hear it a lot that they're online because they don't. But you also have I don't know that that I don't know that that is a Republican or Democrat thing as much as that is an American thing right now. I think you're going to find just as many lonely, left leaning liberals. I mean, I see hordes in Oklahoma, hordes of people that are not isolated. The groups of racist, homophobic assholes, groups of them where you sent your kids to school. There was a whole stadium full of these right wing Christian homophobe racist all grouped together.

33:49Angie Sullivan:And I mean, Josh would be like, oh, God, I fucking hate these people. I mean, you could just feel it. You could feel the racism and the homophobia jump off of them. And they were organized and social and all of these things. I think to the point about both sides or I voted for the lesser of two evils is such a lazy argument and also a tell. because in that tell, they're saying, I know that Trump is bad. And so then they pull out a lazy argument of the false equivalency and trying to equate either Hillary or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris is somehow an equivalent to Trump. And they're clearly not. So that to me is one of the bigger tells of, you know, you're voting immorally when somebody says, oh, I voted for the lesser of two evils.

34:40Angie Sullivan:It's a tell that you know you're voting for the most evil person. Yeah. That's what I think. No, I agree with that. Okay. Let's listen to voice memos. Okay. Up first, we've got Jake. Hi, ladies. Big fan here. I just need to get this off my chest. I have absolutely had it with people who will recommend you TV shows and say, you know, I just need to get through the first few seasons and then it gets really good. Okay, so what I'm hearing is you want me to suffer. Okay? Like, you want me to just suffer through absolute shit for, I don't know, 12, 16, 20, 24 hours of my life just to get to a morsel of goodness.

35:26I don't understand that. Okay? And I understand delayed gratification, but not for TV. TV is a chance for me to escape this hellhole of a country. OK, I don't need to be messing around with shit when I've just been experiencing shit on the news all day long. It's like when you're meeting a friend of a friend and they're like, you know, my friend can be kind of a bitch and standoffish and narcissistic and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But she's really fun once you get to know her. It's like I don't want to get to know her. OK, so I've just had it with that. And I'd love to hear what you guys think.

36:02Angie Sullivan:That is so good. That's one of the better grievances I've heard in a long time. Once you get to know her, I want to get to know her. It's so true. It's kind of like, like this tastes terrible. Taste it. But the movie, do you smell, does anybody smell that? I will go right into somebody's armpit or like that smells terrible. I can't get my nose in it quick enough. The television show thing is so true. So I say that there has to be a three episode limit to hook you. if it gets beyond the initial three episodes and you have to get into three seasons, it should have been canceled. Like that. It's not that it's good.

36:43Angie Sullivan:It's that you've committed to it so much that you've been gaslit by the series and bought into the propaganda that this series is good. And I think he's spot on with that. And also about the people, uh, that's something when I hear people say that now, like, Oh, my friend can be all of these ways, but you'll get to know her, you're like, I'm like, I really don't want to. But also I want to say this, like one of my favorite people on the planet, my friend, Vanessa, if I introduced her to anybody and Vanessa, this is a big shout out to you. She'll, she'll text me and say, thank you for introducing me that way in your podcast.

37:19Angie Sullivan:I would say, listen, I'm going to introduce you to my friend, Vanessa. And she is a five star cunt unapologetically. She does not fuck around. she doesn't really like human beings but she likes me and she likes the people in her lives and she will pick up a mountain and move it for the people in her lives but if you triple trumped if you're you know in any way look at her weird she will have no use for you and will discard you like nobody's business like she told me once she was like you know if somebody fucked with fucked with me i could just push them right in front of a train and go home and bake bookie cookies for my kids and my heart rate wouldn't go up.

37:59Angie Sullivan:And I thought, oh my God, I am in love. And so I've introduced Vanessa that way, but I'll tell you what, I like people like that, because here's what I like about Vanessa. Vanessa is a bully slayer. And in Oklahoma City, she and I both progressive. And if people said homophobic stuff, engaged in homophobic activity, be racist shit, engaged in racist shit. She gets in that ass and fucking calls it out unapologetically. And you're off her list. There's no patty cake and, oh, we're going to be friends. You're fucking done. You're over. You're disqualified. She has no time for that. I think she's an absolute role model in that regard.

38:40Angie Sullivan:Yeah, she's fantastic. I really like her. And I like how, I mean, she reminds me of you in a lot of ways. Like her heartbeat doesn't go up. like she will see it she will call it out she doesn't get sweaty armpits it's just like boom it's just a default setting yeah everybody's terrified of her i kind of was terrified of her yeah you should be and i love her yeah no and she loves that too like she she i'll be like hey my friends are scared of you vanessa she goes good and she's hilarious she's love once you get to know her. Like I tell her all the time, she'll say something like, well, you're the biggest fucking cunt.

39:20Angie Sullivan:And she's like, I know. Thank you. No, she's great. So there is something to that. Sometimes I kind of like a friend that I just, I don't like superficial shit. I don't like, I hate superficial friendships. I'm just not into that. I'd rather be a friend with somebody who's bitchy but real than superficial yeah okay up next we've got grace jen pumps kylie whatever the straight men producers names are i have a story for you jen i was obsessed hearing you talk about the giant pause pause pause seth is straight ryan is gay ryan over there he said straight man and he just like threw his hand up in the air.

40:07All right.

40:12Angie Sullivan:Sorry. Start that completely over Kylie. I was obsessed hearing you talk about the gyrator and the gym guy. And I have a grievance perfect for you because it combines your two least favorite things, which is gym people and religion. And gym, gym drama, you said you wanted to hear or watch a show about a reality show about gym drama. So I used to, in Oklahoma city, go to a Christian gym. It was a Christian based gym and it was led by the most roided up alpha self-proclaimed alpha male in the world. It was a Christian gym and we all had to pray before and after the workout. Jesus Christ. Uh, the drama at this gym, this man ended up to, you know, take a long story, make it short, uh, having an affair with one of the gym members wives of course and like confessed and then him and his business partner that owned the gym together broke up and one started another gym anyways christian sexual praying at the gym affair perfect combo it just had jennifer welch and angie pumps written all over it because i know that's combining your two favorite things mind you he was uh friends with this, this man and that went to his gym anyways.

41:29Love you guys. Uh, hope you, hope you love that one. Bye.

41:33Angie Sullivan:I eat that shit up. Here's what, here's what people that don't live in the Bible belt need to understand about what fucking goes on in the Bible belt. Christian gyms where adults go to the gym and pray before a workout, workout and pray after a workout. It is fucking crazy. It is a cult. It is psychotic. And there is this notion among the evangelicals that you can't even criticize that, that, that there was, there would be this, well, I mean, that's not for me, but I mean, you know, they're just doing it, you know, it's just kind of a God thing. They're just doing it for God. There's always this excuse for this insane shit everywhere.

42:17Angie Sullivan:You're trying, that's why I love Vanessa. Vanessa would go, that is so fucked up. What a cult. I mean, just boom, She would just cut it down straight. But it surprises me zero that at the Christian gym, we have affairs going on because 100 % of the people that I know that are megachurchers are 100 % the most screwed up people I know. And the thing about the megachurch mentality is they think nobody can criticize them. Can you imagine arrogance of going about your day in your life and thinking nobody can criticize your church that is literally a, you know, like pay to pray scheme. It's just, it is, it is a rot.

43:05Angie Sullivan:White evangelical megachurch culture is a rot. Now they have these gyms, which is a total fucking racket. Of course, everybody's slapping, tickling at the gym. It's just, it's, I went into this Baskin Robbins in Oklahoma once, which was a chain. And there was Christian music playing. Completely ruined my entire fucking ice cream experience. I didn't buy any at all. I laughed in a tizzy because I'm just like, can't I go anywhere in Oklahoma without hearing praise music? And if the music were good, maybe I wouldn't bit it, but it's every song sounds the exact, exact same. So I go in there, it's this fucking praise music.

43:46Angie Sullivan:I was so mad about it. So I leave. And then I call the 1-800 number to Baskin Robbins to complain. They didn't even care. Yes. But I just wanted to be like this. Why? I want to go to get ice cream. Why do I have to try? Why does everybody trying to save everybody all the time? It's always the most fucked up people that are trying to save you. it's the most judgmental racist homophobic like the most like okay here's an example erica kirk she's trying to save everybody make heaven crowded again and she's having these big praise i mean her husband's funeral was a big praise fest it's weird right what about her and her faith is attractive it the arrogance that these people it doesn't ever occur to them like oh this really isn't that marketable.

44:36Angie Sullivan:It never hits them about how unmarketable their behavior is. Like when I was around as a young adult or in Christian circles, these women were so ugly. They said the ugliest things about other people. They were the most judgmental and then thought they were better than me because I didn't go to church. And I'd be like, bitch, please, you have just sat here and ripped through the most shallow, vapid, mean, cruel shit on the planet. And you think you're marketable, that your lifestyle is marketable. It's there, there's a level of arrogance and psychosis in that, that is just unmatched, completely unmatched.

45:15Well, I mean, I, I was that person. So I would say it comes from the, the entitlement and the righteousness that you think you're so right.

45:31Angie Sullivan:Like I thought, I think it's more than that though, Pumps, you always say that, but I think there is a enjoyment of cruelty among the people. There is an enjoyment of, of there is an enjoyment of the feeling of being cruel, that we are better. And we get to diminish these gays and we get to diminish somebody who's unattractive. And there's an appetite. The people that I see do this, where you can see they're salivating over it. They like it. They like punching down. They like criticizing appearances. They like criticizing skin color. There is an enjoyment to it. It's not just entitlement. It's deeper than that.

46:11Angie Sullivan:There is, you keep doing something over and over again, because it feeds an award system in the brain. They are getting rewarded. They like it. There is a feasting on this that is enjoyable to them. The righteousness of it, I would say. The cruelty of it. Pardon? The cruelty of it. The cruelty. Well, I mean, it all manifests the same way. It's because it's cruel behavior. Yeah. You think that you're entitled to do it because you're like divine. It's fucked up. Well, and that goes outside of religion. The entitlement is something I don't think that is exclusive to religion. I think what's more interesting about the evangelicals that I know is the enjoyment of cruelty, how much they enjoy it.

46:59Angie Sullivan:They enjoy Fox News. If you just watch it, it's incredibly cruel programming. and, um, uh, every mega church or I know in Oklahoma city watches Fox news. There's an enjoyment in watching them demean people when our kids were younger. And I would have to hang out with you and your Bible study friends. I mean, I would leave and I would be like, Oh my God, these women are just mean, just mean, mean, absolutely mean stuff about little kids that weren't theirs. Like, Oh, that girl's fugly or like that. She's such a cute mom, but God, Her daughter is a DOG, like really mean shit. And there was an enjoyment, a commiserating about it.

47:41Angie Sullivan:And then I would leave and then I would go hang out with my gay friends. And I'd be like, God, these fucking women have to be in these mom groups now. And they're just fucking mean, mean. And they enjoyed it. There was an enjoyment of the cruelty of it. It's for me. It's off of each other. For me, that was more pronounced than the entitlement, the enjoyment of cruelty. But I think defeating off each other, it just gets worse and worse, like in a group that's around each other more. Like, for example, like at a sorority, the meanness amplifies because everybody is one-upping each other on it. And I do think when I look back on it, it is cruelty.

48:23It is judgment. It is mean. And it can, I just, my perspective on it for me was that I was entitled to be judgmental because I was better. And I think that that's how you do me. You thought your shit didn't stink. But I mean, I think that. It still doesn't. But I mean, it just, when it, when your default setting is that dehumanizing and ugly, everything just.

48:53Angie Sullivan:I think there's an enjoyment. I think it's because entitlement is something you see like in white supremacist cultures, even people that aren't religion. Entitlement is something that I get there. The thing about evangelical Christianity to me is the enjoyment of cruelty. Look at the laws they legislate. Look at the channels they watch. Look at the circles they hang in. Look at the school you sent your kids to. It was a complete booklet about justifying cruelty. the whole booklet was about justifying cruelty to people that weren't heterosexual and that's just it's crazy but they like it they like the cruelty that oh only straight people can send their kids here we will only be around we will only all be around straight people and i think they enjoy pointing out other people's defects to overcome their own defects yeah because they're fucking their trainer at the Christian gym.

49:49I was like, but it wasn't a Christian gym.

49:53Angie Sullivan:Oh, I forgot. You did fuck your trainer when you were in your Christian marriage. My godly marriage. I forgot about that. Yeah. It's in the book. I'm not, I'm not, this is in her book. Didn't you write about this in your, one of your chapters in the book? Yeah. God, that, I forgot. That was so good. That was back. Like, I mean, and you really, you were really revved up for that. Carried it on for a few months. Yeah. Stayed right. I mean, just stayed the course. I think you would go from his bed straight to marriage counseling. Yes. On more than one occasion, which that's Freudian. And then to church on Sunday.

50:33Angie Sullivan:One million percent. I think that was maybe when I kind of started really liking you. Before it was a, it was a service of our kids can all hang out together. Like it helps my kids, you know, as a young mother, you have to find these mom groups, but I would always leave and I was like, God, these Christians, I forgot it. I hadn't hung out with them since high school. They're just so blah. And then when you showed that kind of game, I was like, all right, game on, let's go.

51:07Angie Sullivan:Yes. Let's do one. No, let's wrap. All right. All right. So first of all, if you want to read about, um, pumps, fucking her trainer, you can buy our book. Life is a lazy Susan of shit sandwiches. It's great. And if you want to read about fascism, you can pre-order my book. That'll be out in October called not today fascists. And we're trying to really amp up the pre-order sales. So please support me, support democracy, support our channel by ordering this. and we will back or back every day on either iHip News or I've Had It. We produce content at the Wazoo. So you certainly know how to find this by now.

51:48Angie Sullivan:Can't miss this if you want to. Yeah.

51:52Angie Sullivan:I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I'm at it with that.