In short
The hosts vent about everyday annoyances (self-checkout, gym etiquette, phones/Instagram in gyms), relationship dynamics (working out with a slower spouse; watching TV together), and “lesbian couple” social exclusion at events. They also discuss MAGA/media figures and mental-health accusations, then pivot to “looks maxing” and “twinks maxing” trends, using their gym and dating experiences as examples.
Key claims
Social media/phones should be banned in gyms; patriotism is “hijacked” by hypocritical politics; MAGA figures are mentally unwell (they name Erica Kirk, Laura Loomer, Candace Owens); gay men’s grooming/fitness set a standard that straight men should emulate; steroid use leads to personality changes and “softening”/sexual performance decline.
Notable examples
a “jackrabbit” gym guy doing intense side-plank exercises; a “black cock cookie” served at a rural Oklahoma “white party”; their husband Josh obsessing over body-fat readings (claimed 4%) and repeatedly asking others for body fat.
Guests
No formal guests are interviewed; the episode features the hosts and references to public figures (Dylan Latham; Laura Loomer; Candace Owens; Richard Attenborough) and a gym trainer “Emily” plus fitness instructor “Maddie.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Self-Checkout Grievance
0:45 to 2:30
Discussion about frustrations with self-checkout lanes.
“So then I've had it that they don't have self checkout.”
Workout Efficiency vs. Breaks
2:30 to 6:00
A humorous take on workout styles between the hosts and their partners.
“So let me tell you what I've had it with.”
Public Gym Behavior Complaints
6:00 to 8:45
Complaints about social media use in gyms and its impact on workout efficiency.
“breaking and lollygagging and drinking water, which everybody knows how much I oppose performative hydration, even at the gym.”
Complicated Friend Dynamics
8:45 to 11:10
Exploration of social dynamics in friendships, especially among lesbian couples.
“I think this would be ubiquitous with lesbians, high charged emotional stuff.”
The Jackrabbit at the Gym
11:10 to 13:20
A humorous observation of an unusual gym-goer nicknamed 'the jackrabbit'.
“That's why the Henting Wives is so popular.”
Jackrabbit Exercise and Gym Gossip
14:02 to 16:45
Listeners will learn about humorous gym encounters and the 'jackrabbit' exercise trend.
“But it does sound, I mean, and he does this like, he's like in a side plank and his arms up and he just, I mean, it's like, it's double time.”
Comments on Medical Findings
16:45 to 19:15
The hosts discuss the potential for their hypotheses to be recognized in medical journals.
“And I would like to do a bill to condemn Erica Kirk.”
Political Commentary on Mental Health
19:15 to 22:45
The segment offers a critical view on the mental health of certain political figures and their supporters.
“Right around the holidays in 2018, Candice explicitly told me about how she was happily living in Philadelphia condo with her cat and a loyal boyfriend of seven years, Ryan.”
Critique of Influencer Culture
22:45 to 24:40
Discussion around influencers combining serious topics with casual content creation.
“Laura and Erica could park next to each other in the lot.”
Exploring Patriotism and Identity
26:52 to 28:00
A conversation about the hosts' complicated feelings towards patriotism and its implications.
“All right, the next review we've got here is from Cecil.”
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Military Neglect and Funding Issues
28:00 to 28:20
Discusses the neglect of soldiers' needs compared to military funding.
“Republicans are demeaning to the mental health needs and the physical needs that the troops have after they sent them.”
A White Party in Rural Oklahoma
28:20 to 29:20
Shares a humorous story about attending a themed party and unexpected surprises.
“We're going to a white party in rural Oklahoma.”
Black Cock Cookies at the Party
29:20 to 30:20
Details the awkward moment of being offered a controversial cookie at the party.
“Well, what the deal was, was they were initiating a new president to the river club.”
Singing God Bless America
30:20 to 31:40
Describes a comic clash between patriotism and personal beliefs during a patriotic sing-along.
“to Kylie so she can put it up on screen.”
Critique of American Patriotism
31:40 to 32:50
Discusses the hypocrisy of patriotism in the context of support for the military.
“But no, Black Cox, white party, rural Oklahoma.”
The Psychology Behind Cookie Choices
32:50 to 34:10
Explores the motivations of the baker who made the controversial cookies.
“no way a white party in rural Oklahoma with all white people, there's something bad is going to happen.”
Introduction to Looks Maxing
34:10 to 35:30
Explains the trend of looks maxing and its implications in modern culture.
“Straight Gen Z men are now appropriating gay culture.”
Understanding Twinks Maxing
35:30 to 36:40
Defines twinks maxing and its relevance in the context of looks maxing.
“And it can be positive self-improvement tip or obsessively dysmorphic territory.”
Josh's Obsession with Body Fat
36:40 to 37:50
Shares humorous anecdotes about a friend's obsession with body fat measurements.
“I also just want to say that to kind of describe Josh.”
Fitness and Body Measurements
37:50 to 38:50
Continues the discussion on body fat and fitness with humorous exchanges.
“Maddie, this party, this GLAAD party that we co-host, it was at Maddie's apartment.”
ChatGPT and Body Fat Calculations
38:50 to 42:00
Narrates a comical scenario involving AI and discussions about body fat.
“I'm like, Josh, he's a Peloton instructor and a trainer.”
Body Fat Discussions and Psycho Josh
42:00 to 43:00
The hosts share amusing anecdotes about body fat measurements and Psycho Josh's obsession.
“He never met, didn't ask him his name, asked him what his body fat was.”
Exploring Twink Maxing
45:36 to 48:04
Discussion on twink maxing and insights from Dylan Latham's perspective.
“The looks maxing and twinks maxing is 100 % like reminiscent of Josh.”
Straight Male Narcissism and Homophobia
48:04 to 53:37
Debate on whether straight men's admiration for gay men could combat homophobia.
“lean and fit and well-groomed and smell nice and, you know, have nice clothes and all that.”
Metrosexuality and Beauty Standards
53:37 to 56:01
Discussion on metrosexuality among men and the evolving beauty standards.
“Because gay men, I will say, you rarely see like a bulky, too big gay man.”
Navigating Metrosexuality and Gaydar
56:01 to 57:03
Learn about the challenges of identifying sexual orientation in a metrosexual landscape.
“I support straight men looking to that as hashtag inspo.”
The Complexity of Social Dynamics
57:03 to 58:53
Discover the intricacies of friendships and social outings among mixed couples.
“Kylie, do you have anything you would like to add before we go off?”
Highlighting Lesbian Issues in Media
58:53 to 59:54
Discuss the importance of addressing lesbian topics in podcasts and media.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Jennifer:So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay-triots, the-triots, black-triots, brown-triots, we love you. And all of the fascist triple-Trumpers can do what, pumps? Fuck off! You did the devil bird with that. Welcome to America's Top DEI podcast where we kick ass and take names every day, seven days a week, 24, seven, three 65 pumps. What have you had it with? Okay. What I've had it with, and I think this just proves that I am nothing but a cranky old fart. I have had it with self checkout until I only have three items and then I have to wait in line. So then I've had it that they don't have self checkout.
0:49So what I've decided is I can't be happy. I don't want to be happy. I want to bitch that there's no self-checkout. And then I want to bitch that there's only self-checkout.
1:01Jennifer:I relate to this. There are so many things that I have absolutely had it with. And then when they're not available to me, I'm irritated at that. I think that's incredibly relatable. I would imagine that you're not very good at self-checkout? Okay. I have to say, I am not very good at self-checkout and it has given me like a huge respect for grocery, grocers that do that all day because like finding the deal and doing all that, it's just harder than I thought it would be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I imagined. Yeah. I imagined. I, uh, kind of surprised to no one. I'm great at, uh, self-checkout. I, I shine, I thrive.
1:47Jennifer:I'm ready. I'm efficient. It's kind of like I approach self-checkout the same way I do TSA. When I go through TSA, I want all of the TSA agents to be like in awe, like, wow, she was ready. She had everything out and ready. She went through. What a great passenger she is. Likewise, I think about the feelings and the observational view of the checker outers behind me, the customers behind me that were like, God, this old lady, this Gen X, she's going to take forever. And I'm like, hold my beer, out the door. And I got my dogs with me half the time too. And they just sit and they just, they watch.
2:28Jennifer:And that's a great support as you can imagine. All right. So let me tell you what I've had it with. Um, this has to do with my husband, Josh, and, um, he doesn't really listen to this podcast. He just finds out from other people what I say about him on it. Yeah. So when he was in New York, uh, last week, we work out together and it's fun to do, uh, to go work out together. The problem is, um, I like to work out without taking a break. Like if I do a bicep curl and then a squat and then a sit up, and I'm going to do all of those things in rotation, I don't take a break in between each one and he likes to lollygag and have a sip of water and all of these things right which okay whatever I'm a little bit more fit than he is I mean what else right so the last I I went at his pace Monday through Thursday that he was in New York last week I I went we were team we were in unison he did a curl I was doing curls if I finished before him.
3:36Jennifer:I paused. I waited. By Friday, I had fucking had it. Yeah. And I was like, it's game on. So I went and our trainer's name is Emily. And I was like, okay, Emily, what's the next exercise? And I have lapped him now. I'm like so far ahead of him in the exercise. I can feel the titty baby exuding from his body, right? I can feel it. And I know, I've made a calculation. I know that later on today I'm going to hear like we were supposed to work out together. And I knew and I thought, you know what, I'm going to take that because I want my heart rate to get up and I want my heart rate to stay up. And I'll just I'll deal with the aftermath at a later date.
4:21Jennifer:So I finished the workout much faster than he does. And I go to the rowing machine and just crank out about 700 meters just until he finishes. Oh, you were that far ahead. Oh, way ahead. It's not even, not even close. Okay. So we leave. And as we walk home, it starts. He said, you know, we were supposed to like work out together. And I go, Oh, here we go. Here we go. I knew this was coming. And he goes, I said, I'm just, I don't like to take a break. I like to get a cardio exercise. And if we're just working out for an hour, I can rest before I can rest after. I don't want to rest during. I want, I like to be an efficient person.
5:06And he said, he said, well, I'm lifting much heavier weights than you are. And I'm, I'm really,
5:18Jennifer:you know, like he basically, he's telling me he's stronger and he's a better exerciser than I am, that I'm just blazing through it. And that's not the case. Yes, he is stronger. He is stronger. There's no question. He's a male. He's six foot four, et cetera. Actually, six foot three. Last year, he upgraded his height to six foot four. Total fraud on all of his identifications. At 56 years old, he upgraded his height. And that's something we'll leave to our psychoanalyst to discuss at a much later date because enough. But of course, he is stronger. But I wasn't like going fast with each exercise.
5:57Jennifer:I was, you know, up one, two down. I was doing all of that just without breaking and lollygagging and drinking water, which everybody knows how much I oppose performative hydration, even at the gym. Even if you need it. So he got so smoked out. And then the remainder of the day, it was hilarious. And Josh can laugh at himself. So, I mean, he's like performatively upset for the listener. It's not like this is real, but he was like, I mean, I just thought we were supposed to go in there together. Like we were supposed to do it together. So I've kind of had it with him slowing me down at the gym.
6:34Jennifer:And then just a follow up here on some gym stuff that I want to report back. My grievance from a month or two ago about people that like, maybe they're on the, uh, a machine, some sort of machine that you want to use. let's say the leg press and they're going to do three sets and they break and don't do another exercise like I do. Like I'm going to do a leg press. I'm gonna do something else, something else. This individual random gym attender is going to do the leg press and then they're going to hold and stay on the leg press for their break and then do another set and another set. I don't have a problem if you want to hold and stay.
7:13Jennifer:What I have a problem with is during your hold and stay, you want to get on Instagram and then you're, yeah, these people are on Instagram, bogarting the machines. And the next thing you know, like all of us, you're like, Oh, that's an interesting hashtag. And then next thing you know, 750 weeks ago, Shirley Q from Dayton, Ohio did X, Y, Z, and you're down some rabbit hole, which is fine. I'm totally fine with being a psycho on Instagram. What I'm not fine with is public psychotic Instagram use while other people are waiting to use your machine. So I think that people, I think social media should be banned in gyms.
7:54I agree. I think phones in all forms should be banned in gyms. Like nobody's so important that they need to take a phone call during the gym. Like, I mean, maybe just like, Hey, can you pick this up? Yeah. Okay. Bye. But not like, how are you? What's your mother-in-law? Nothing like that. Here's my thing. Josh is a piddler. He just he's just he can lollygag around and he can kind of get off on tangents, which I can kind of do, too. And you're a push through, get it done, like hyper focus. Like a machine. But here's the deal on Josh. I mean, honestly, for him to say, I thought we were doing that together.
8:33I know he's laughing about it and it's funny because he doesn't really care that much. but can you imagine if you were married to someone that was legitimate about that like that my whole skin crawled when you were talking about that because I know Josh was giving you shit yeah but I cannot I know I have people that I know that like if they watch a show together and then the other person watches an episode without them it is it's like a breakdown of
9:01Jennifer:epic proportions which I believe that Kylie and Anna do this welcome I've had it Kylie do you and Ana of this situation with shows? We do. I think this would be ubiquitous with lesbians, high charged emotional stuff. Yeah. And I'm a very serious TV watcher. Yeah. Right. Ana, you know, pretty ADHD. TV is not like, she's just not laser focused on it. I'm the annoying one that's like watching her watch the show to make sure she's paying attention. So I've just started blazing through and I think she's kind of given up. I want to talk to y 'all about something. And this is something interesting that we need to discuss with the Les Triots.
9:40Jennifer:So if you have friends that are a lesbian couple and you're friends with one over the other, but you like the other person's wife a lot and you're going to do some sort of girl dinner, oftentimes you might think, I want to invite my main friend, but not the wife. Well, that seems really exclusionary. You know, that doesn't seem right. But nobody else is bringing their husband. Right? So this is a tricky situation in lesbian culture. And Kylie, I'd like for you to weigh in on this because I've experienced this back in Oklahoma City. We have, you know, a lot of my pickleball friends are lesbians.
10:25Jennifer:And this is something that we've talked about. So how do you navigate this? You've just nailed like a real issue. it's real because the the lines are so blurred with it being girls right anna and i have we purposefully work on this like she has to go have time with her friends it's completely separate because i wouldn't want my friend to bring her boyfriend who i don't like so like but it is tricky like couple friends especially in lesbians it's it's foursome or pretty much bust someone's feelings are gonna get hurt couldn't the rule just be if you if you're not inviting the husbands the girlfriend doesn't come the wife then what do you do what do you do you say okay here's the deal it's no husband's no we're inviting anna because she's a little bit more feminine than you are kylie so that's our decision making well that seems discriminatory right well but if they're kylie's friends we're only inviting the lipstick leslie which kylie i'm not saying you're not a lipstick leslie because clearly you're drop dead gorge you have a tie on though today you do perfect for your for my argument yeah so how do you determine then which lesbian gets excluded i'm telling you guys this is a real pickle that people are not talking about at all i think there's a lot of pickles in lesbian relationships i do too get fucking blurred because it's two girls like you're you're really tapping into that's before we even get to the subarus and the u-hauls exactly you know there's a girl at my dog school that has a subaru and she i mean i try to be patient with her i don't just she's a lesbian i don't i don't know if she's a lesbian or just directionally challenged like for whatever reason we're following each other into dog school it's like she doesn't know where to turn in i'm like it's a fucking driveway it's not that hard but every day we have to go i mean just like so now i have my eye on her i don't think she's a lesbian because they're not directionally challenged i would agree with that highway you've been there before lady come on interesting car choice for a heterosexual woman though just leave that i have a friend that drives a subro she loves it she's not a lesbian really are you sure are you sure You know, this midlife lesbian thing has really taken off.
12:27Jennifer:It's huge. It's a big thing. It's a really, really big thing. Even in Oklahoma. I mean, big thing. I think especially in the Bible Belt. I think that's where it's at. At least on the down low for sure. Yeah. That's why the Henting Wives is so popular. All the churches are doing scissors. Bible study scissor. We're going to go to Bible study. We're going to go from two Corinthians and then break out into a jackrabbit scissor. If it was pumps and her friends, you know, they'd all bring out toys. You guys. So ever since I did the gossiping about the characters at my gym, about the jackrabbit in particular, so I forget that the podcast has grown this much, right?
13:12Jennifer:And so, because I always just think it's us and the listener, right? Because that's what it's always been. And we're so incompetent and such morons. every single day since I in detail described the jackrabbit he's been there and he's always at the same spot where I am and I'm always like to Emily I'm like oh my god there's the jackrabbit I talked about him on the pod and he's and he's over there just jackrabbiting you know and he's just I mean he's just going he does these jackrabbit exercises like this it's bananas but I think like does he know does he know i haven't seen the handstand guy i've not seen him i've not seen him and i really quite enjoyed watching him exercise jackrabbit's really kind of disturbing it disturbs me do you think it's like a mating call i don't it's what it seems like it seems like you keep cocking what's the guy's name the uh the british uh uh national geographic you know the guy the famous richard and and ashcroft how do you two producers don't know and what's ash no uh fuck he's british what's his first name do you know richard do national geographic british guy richard attenborough that's it richard attenborough come on who pulls through in the clutch dementia mama pumps does that's right okay so a picture like it's so perfect that if richard Attenborough was like, this is what we call the jackrabbit exercise.
14:43Jennifer:But it does sound, I mean, and he does this like, he's like in a side plank and his arms up and he just, I mean, it's like, it's double time. One and two and three and four and five and six and seven and eight. It really is. I tried to do it and I was like, it's really kind of hard. I tried to do it at home. I didn't try to do it at the gym, but I was just like, what is there to that? I was bored and the dogs were just staring at me like, oh my God. It was, I tell you what though, I've got to quit talking about people on the podcast that then I'm going to run into. Because if he comes out to me and he's like, hey, are you talking about me at the gym?
15:14Jennifer:I'm like, what are you talking about? Do you call me the jackrabbit? Oh God, no, it's not you. It's the other jackrabbit. Which there is no other one because his exercising is so insane. We all talk about it. How about the lack of self-awareness if the jackrabbit's looking around the gym, wondering who the jackrabbit is? Yeah. All right, Kylie, do we have any – what are people saying about us on the World Wide Web? Any responses from the jackrabbit? No, not from the jackrabbit yet. I will keep an eye out. I'm such a moron. I'll tell them to personally – Next time I do that shit, you're going to have to cut it out, edit it out.
15:49We do it a lot.
15:50Jennifer:I know. It's really bad. All right. Okay. This is – I went to Spotify and took a look at the comments on there. And Lioness R. Saeed says, petition to get Jen's research into medical journals so people stop stealing her findings. I agree. I think that's a great idea. It's unbelievable the amount of hypotheses we've had on this show. And then the science a year later, we're on the World Wide Web, and then somebody's launched a study. And so in our spare time, we'll start a medical journal that we keep internally here, like the permanent record. I think we're good. I kind of want to start our own.
16:35Jennifer:Kylie and I were talking about we need to start our own DNC because the DNC sucks. They won't release the autopsy. And we need to start our own Congress. Like Congress is doing a bill to condemn Hassan Piker. And I would like to do a bill to condemn Erica Kirk. And so since Congress is useless and worthless, they can just do that. So I want to just be like, hear ye, hear ye. And then I read the bill and then everybody votes and we can, we can go down to a park in New York city and have them vote on it. And then we just, and then we just say, okay, we have an article here that we've all voted on and we've all condemned Erica Kirk.
17:14Jennifer:And I just want to say this, here's just something that I want to say. I want to say that it's interesting to me that Trump talks incessantly about insane asylums. and releasing the craziest of the crazy into America. And there's these insane asylum, just batshit crazy people. And then you look at his most fervent supporters, and I think she needs to be in an insane asylum. And I mean that sincerely. Put that in the medical journal. Jennifer has diagnosed Erica Kirk as an advanced state of manic psychosis. That is my diagnosis. I will let the psychiatrist catch up with me, but she needs to be in psychiatric care.
18:05Jennifer:I mean, there's something severely wrong with her, but in MAGA's world, it's like a mental illness parade. It really is. It's insane. The personality disorders on Parade, it's really sad, but it's a masterclass in why we need healthcare and we need to fund mental illness, normalized mental illness, but not in this way. Have you seen - She's not platforming it. I've seen Laura Loomer this whole last week. Laura Loomer, who's been in insane asylums quite literally. Three times. Has lost her fucking mind with Candace Owens. Yes. What's going on? She's trying to dox her. She's like finding arrest records of Candace's husband and he's an immigrant and she's posting them online and being like, and it's like, do you, do you, do you, I, yeah, he's like British, I think.
18:55Yeah. I don't think MAGA counts. Yeah.
18:57Jennifer:white europeans as immigrants she calls him an immigrant right and i don't think i don't think maggot counts white people as immigrants they only count brown people right she she posted this like mugshot and he got like some stupid arrest a while back and she was like candace good luck explaining this one i mean she's candace respond yeah i can't you want me to look back and forth on the day they're going nuts i mean okay so all right so to recap candace's husband is a white european european immigrant and oh my god these people are fantastically crazy and he gets all liquored up and gets a dui and laura i don't think it was as serious as the dui oh no it's like some small thing fender bender she's going off candace owen this was like today at real candace so loves to present her marriage with George Farmer as a traditional fairytale romance, but the actual reality of their sudden engagement is completely insane and inhumane.
20:02Inhumane? How'd that happen? What's inhumane about it? Right around the holidays in 2018, Candice explicitly told me about how she was happily living in Philadelphia condo with her cat and a loyal boyfriend of seven years, Ryan. Yet right around the exact same time, she completely blindsided Ryan and abruptly got engaged to farmer when she met him at a tp usa event in the uk with charlie kirk fucking turning point everything comes back it takes a truly soulless grifter to string a man along for almost a decade heartlessly abandon him for a rich guy she knew for 14 days and then lie to the public to manufacture a conservative love story so she can come across as a trad catholic it goes on and
20:45Jennifer:Wait, I think I read and Ryan, Kylie, let me know. I read on the internet that Laura Loomer is accused of performing oral sex on Trump. Yes. That she's been sucking him off. Yeah. Which my God, don't you know, Melania has just gratitude out the wazoo for the service she's providing. Yeah. She said, stick around. Has Candace mentioned that? Yes, it was something in a lawsuit. There was going back and forth. It just got dismissed. But Laura Loomer like brags about giving Trump a blowjob, which I'm like, that would be my, nobody would know that ever. I would deny that until they laid me in the ground.
21:33Jennifer:I also just, I missed. Wait, hang on. Would you rather Ted Cruz or Donald Trump blow job from from from soft to completion to ejaculation to swallow? You have to pick Donald Trump or Ted Cruz pumps. Pick one. OK, a couple of questions before I answer. OK, I'm happy to answer that with Trump's ankles. I think he cannot he does not have enough blood flow to get a hard dick so I think it would just it would go on forever and ever so you could never I mean you so you're second Ted ever you're second Ted you'd have to be Ted you haven't done a good fuck marry kill in a long time Kylie we don't do that we do those are so fun Kylie what did you find I was just I messed up and I didn't read the best part of this tweet this is how Laura closes out her Candace tweet Let's be clear.
22:26There is nothing pure, Christ-like, or Catholic about Candace Owens. She's basically a female Jim Jones. Like Jones, she will lead all her followers to their own demise when they drink too much of her poisoned Kool-Aid. Oh, that's so good. God. The insane asylum is rampant. It's open. It's open. Laura and Erica could park next to each other in the lot.
22:52Jennifer:Were they ever friends? It sounds like it. She says she told me. You know what's so funny about the whole MAGA movement? They come together at first because it's like, oh yeah, we get to hate on people together. And it never occurs to any of them, oh, if this person is capable of hating on all these people, I too could be the target. When I have a friend that's a super big gossip and always talking shit on their friends, I'm like, well, I know when I'm not around, they're talking shit on me. So I always kind of Heisman arm length. I'll still be friendly, but I'm like, oh, it's probably not that great of a friend to have.
23:26Jennifer:That never occurs to them. And so now I love it that they're all targeting each other. It's delicious. I want to point out like this Ashley St. Claire, the baby mama of Elon Musk or whatever, all of these, I mean, I know I'm slow to the party. I get that. I just realized that all her tell all on MAGA videos are get ready with me. So she does it while she's putting, I'm just like, what is she doing and then i've had it with get ready with me i'm just so sick of it no they here's what they do paps it's like somebody and they do it on the left and on the right in all fairness i see liberal progressive influencers that are talking about something very serious and i'm like hi guys you know what today uh the supreme court has gutted voting rights and i just think this is disgraceful and this is such an attack on the black community i'm just like stop putting on your fucking makeup while you're talking about something serious.
24:23Jennifer:But I don't know what that thing is. I don't know what, I don't understand it. I'm tired of seeing people put on their makeup. It's not that unique. It's not that great to watch. Stop now. Stop putting up your, on your makeup online. Stop it. Agree. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Listener, May is Mental Health Awareness Month, A reminder that whatever you're going through, you don't have to go through it alone. For example, I get overwhelmed with the news cycle. I get overwhelmed with our filming schedule. I get overwhelmed with my children and family responsibilities and how to juggle it all.
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26:36Jennifer:So listener, be prepared to save yourself a ton of time and money. Just go to dupe.com and tell it what you're looking to buy. That's dupe.com to finally feel confident about what to buy. All right, what's the next review? All right, the next review we've got here is from Cecil. She writes, hi there, new listener here and better for it, I think. I just want to say, I don't think I realized how hijacked the concept of patriotism was for me until I listened to you two. There was no definition of patriot that I felt could belong to me. And now I'm reconsidering my relationship with the word, just hearing the way you use it.
27:17That's really interesting to think about. So thank you for that. I too have struggled with patriotism as a word. Like I kind of get the jeebs when I go to a sporting event and they do the national, I mean, I just don't, it's been hijacked so much that I, it's hard for me to embrace it really. Like I would not buy anything red, white, and blue, even for 4th of July. I wouldn't.
27:43Jennifer:Uh, you know, Josh, well, she hates patriotism. He hates it. He cannot fucking stand it because living in Oklahoma, so many people, their identity is being a patriot and, Oh, I support the troops. I support the troops. I support freedom. And it's such bullshit because Republican policies abandon the troops. Republicans are demeaning to the mental health needs and the physical needs that the troops have after they sent them. They have no problem funding the bombs to make the military industrial complex billions upon billions of dollars. But they don't take care of the soldier. and so josh one year we went to my friend liz she's a member of some it's in oklahoma rural oklahoma and it's like a neighborhood and there's a river and it's like a illinois river yeah river club or something right so she invites josh and me to go to this river club with her and as we're before we go she's like now the first night we go jennifer it's going to be a white party and i I go, Liz, that doesn't sound good.
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28:49Jennifer:We're going to a white party in rural Oklahoma. That sounds a little KKK for my taste. She's like, oh, please, come on. And she's like, make sure you bring white clothes. And I was like, okay, okay. We walk up to the white party and this woman puts out a cookie tray to me. And it is a fucking black penis cookie. And I look at the cookie and I look up at Liz and I am like, are you kidding me? I told you this shit was a bad idea. White people having a white party in rural Oklahoma is not get their black cock cookies right here. And Liz is like crying, laughing. She can't speak. Well, what the deal was, was they were initiating a new president to the river club.
29:32Jennifer:Okay. To this redneck river club and all the people there really lovely, no disrespect to the river people. Y 'all were great river hosts and hostesses. But I said, what's the deal? Why are you serving black cock cookies. They said, well, we're swearing in a new president and these are a gavel. And I'll get the image for you all to put up on here. And so they're serving these. And I knew it was a bad idea for white people to have a white party in rural Oklahoma at a river. I called it. I was ahead of the curve on this. I walk up and the first thing somebody offers me is a black cock cookie. Un-fucking-believable, right?
30:10Jennifer:So of course I take a picture with it. And let me find it for, here we go. Here we go. Here's my friend Liz and me. Let me text this to Kylie so she can put it up on screen. Anyway, so we have a wonderful time at the river. It's 4th of July weekend, or maybe it was Memorial weekend. I don't know. Some weekend that causes people to feel patriotic. So we go to this dining area at the River Club. It's very informal, not fancy, but very good food, very nice, but like picnic tables, right? And everybody gets their food and then everybody stands up and the new president has a speech. And then he says, let's everybody sing God bless America.
30:54Jennifer:And I look over to Josh. Josh fucking hates patriotism because he thinks the people that scream about patriotism the most are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the planet. And I can't argue with that. Right. Josh, when we go to Thunder Games during the national anthem, he says, I'm going to go to the restroom because he can't, he can't stomach it. It makes him infuriates him to see that many Republican voters fake supporting the troops because it's total fake support of the troop. So I look over at Josh when they announced that we all have to sing God bless America together. And Josh goes, all right, here we go.
31:29Jennifer:let's go and then we all start in god bless america and i mean i'm looking at josh through the whole thing and i know he is just dying because he got really mad about uh colin kaepernick the way colin kaepernick was treated um and he was trying to use his you know his position to draw attention to the policing disparities for the black community which josh is a criminal lawyer and he sees it every single day up close and personally, the disparity and the apartheid policing system and justice system. But no, Black Cox, white party, rural Oklahoma. There it is. Kylie, can you zoom in on that too so that they can just see?
32:14Jennifer:There's Liz. Look at Liz. It's like, oh shit. So you see, we all showed up to the, this is the first thing I'm at the party for two seconds. And somebody comes up to me with a tray of black cock cookies. To the river people, I love you. I know that you didn't mean to serve black cock cookies, but there it is. Tell me that is a cock. I think it says like, congratulations, Greg, or whoever the new president is. They put it on the ball sack of the cookie. It looks just like it. But I knew it. I knew it. I told Liz, there's no way a white party in rural Oklahoma with all white people, there's something bad is going to happen.
32:58Jennifer:And sure enough, they're serving black cock cookies. Let me just talk about this. The baker that made them, I mean, I'd like to dive into the psychology there. I mean, is this a person that needs to get laid? Is this a person that's like, you know, I should have tapped some chocolate at some point in my life. You know, like it's just, it's, it's such a penis. Yeah. If I were making him, I would say needs to get laid and that I would have taken great care in telling people they were gavels. And in my mind, like my own secret joke that it was a penis, I would, I would have thought I was hilarious.
33:34Jennifer:It objectively looks like a penis, not a gavel. Wouldn't you say, Ryan, Kylie, what do you, what do you, you don't see a gavel at all, right it's a penis as a gay man i feel like that's a good endorsement i agree i mean i and i ate it i ate a black cock cookie what which direction did you i ate it i started at the tip yeah ended with the balls did you eat it in one did you put the whole thing in your mouth or did you bite no i did i did probably three bites total maybe four i did on started at the tip then the stem then one ball then the other ball did you use both hands i think i used one i was a single a single uh hand single-handed and was it good did it taste it was delicious it was delicious but was it salty sweet it was sweet sweet we should be canceled yeah we will be involved and it's not even me this time we should be canceled kylie do we have any more reviews no do you want to do some news stories Okay.
34:35Jennifer:Yeah. I have a new story here. Story number one for the class. A straight, I'm sorry, start it here. Story number one for the class. Straight Gen Z men are now appropriating gay culture. Popular looks maxing influencers are now embracing a new trend. Pop this up. Manosphere influencers are twink maxing and proud of it. So looks maxing pumps is optimizing your physical appearance to the highest potential, including skincare, hair care, fitness, grooming, posture, dental work, ranges from soft maxing, which are easy habits to more extreme measures like cosmetic surgery. And this has been popularized on TikTok and forums like Reddit.
35:31Jennifer:And it can be positive self-improvement tip or obsessively dysmorphic territory. So that's looks maxing pumps. You follow me? Yeah, I didn't think you had. So now we're going to segue over to twinks maxing. All right. And you know what a twink is, pumps, right? Yes. Would you define it for the listener. It's a gay man that's petite and is in the female role, right? Is that right? Yeah, ish. Pretty good, Pops. Ryan, does that pass the ish? Yeah, okay. Twink's maxing is optimizing for the twink aesthetic. Slim, lean, youthful, boyish look. The common goals of But twink, twinks maxing are low body fat, clear skin, slim face, defined, but not bulky physique.
36:29Jennifer:Focuses on staying lean, low calorie, cardio heavy skincare and grooming. Dylan Latham, one of the popular online looks maxers is embracing twinks maxing. Let's pop this up. I also just want to say that to kind of describe Josh. The whole time I'm sitting here. All of it, the looks maxing plus the twinks maxing. I'm like, listen to this. I just had Anna text Josh to get his TSA number because we're flying. We're going on a trip together to get his TSA number and his American airline number. And he sent it. And then he sent his body fat to her as well. My TSA number is this. My AA Advantage number is this.
37:13Jennifer:My body fat is 4%. You guys, we just got this. Body fat 4 %? Okay. All right. Just a quick, a quick pause in our regularly scheduled programming about Twink's Maxing to update you on Josh's body fat. So when he's in town and we're at the gym together and I'm not working out together with him, immediately after the workout, he's like, Emily, do we have time to go measure my body fat? He's obsessed with it, right? And when he was in town, we hosted this GLAAD party and we went to the, the host of the party is a guy named Maddie. And he is like the Peloton queen bee instructor on the planet. Maddie, this party, this GLAAD party that we co-host, it was at Maddie's apartment.
38:00Jennifer:Maddie is a fitness instructor. He is built like a goddamn fucking six pack. I mean, just a tall, gorgeous madonna. Totally. So we're at his house and Josh goes up to him And I'm like, Josh, Maddie, Maddie, Josh. And then Josh says, Maddie, what's your body fat? No, he doesn't. He absolutely does. And Maddie says, I don't know it. And I go, yeah, Josh, most of these people don't psychotically check their body fat. And then Josh says to Maddie, what do you do? Not knowing that Maddie is like a famous fitness instructor because he has no fucking clue because he's always in the Josh Welch show, right?
38:45Right.
38:45Jennifer:So Maddie's like, well, I work out. He goes like, do you work out? Maddie goes, all the time, all day, every day. I'm like, Josh, he's a Peloton instructor and a trainer. Stop it. He's like, so you don't know your body fat? So we go with Emily and he gets his body fat taken. This is after the glad party and it's dropped some. So he gets on Chad GPT and he is so antagonistic with AI. He's so fucking antagonistic. and goes back and forth between like, ChatGPT is lying to me, Claude's lying to me, and he goes back and forth between ChatGPT and Claude, right? We're in the car in New York, and he has basically got ChatGPT.
39:27Jennifer:And mind you, this is an unhinged hypochondriac. ChatGPT is saying to him, if you or someone you know is struggling with 4 % body fat, you should immediately probably take them to the hospital. I'm in the car going, if you are someone you know, God damn it, AI, God damn it, I have to fucking live with him. And so then I'm like, Josh, you need to go get the people that do the pinch. You don't have 4 % body fat. You need to get people that do the pinch because you've got some kind of like love handle situation right here. Why would you? I know. I was being a cunt. Okay. I felt like a casual cunt.
40:04Jennifer:All right. I'd own it. I own it. shortcoming. So I'm on Instagram and Maddie has posted a picture, the aforementioned Peloton fitness instructor, he's posted a picture of himself in his closet, topless, and just like a total Adonis, like he's Italian, you know, and then he has like pecs and the six pack. And I go, see, Josh, you're, cause he claimed in the car, my body fat's lower than Maddie's. I guarantee it. And I'm like, there's no fucking way your body fat is lower than Maddie's. So I showed Josh the picture of Maddie that Maddie had posted on his story. I said, Josh, look, there's no way your body fat is lower than this man's right here.
40:42Jennifer:And he goes, DM him right now and ask him. So I DM Maddie. And this will be the second time Josh has asked Maddie what his body fat is. And so I'm like, Josh wants to know where your body fat is. And Maddie just responds, ha ha, he's obsessed with me. Which is not wrong. Not wrong. So anyway, sorry. Sorry. That was a bad way to get off. But I just thought that, yeah, follow up. Okay. Here's the deal. So Josh asked him what his body fat was before he knew he was a Peloton instructor. Like he could have been an executive at Goldman Sachs. It gets worse from there. It gets worse from there. When we were working out, we were on our own.
41:23Jennifer:We didn't have a trainer and we were waiting on this machine, the glute abduction machine. Oh yeah. And we're waiting on it. And this guy's on there and he is as fit as a fiddle. I'm talking B-U-F-F exclamation point, gay man, hot, you know, just gay men are just to me, their fitness regimen just hits harder. The hygiene and all of it collectively. It's like, okay, this is a very well-kept man. So Josh says to him, as he finishes the machine and we're kind of waiting, he goes, hey, you look great. What's your body fat? Ah, yes. Yeah. He never met, didn't ask him his name, asked him what his body fat was.
42:03Jennifer:And the guy goes, I don't know. I don't want to know. I just know, you know, when I look good or when I don't. Meanwhile, Psycho Josh goes down to the body fat machine like every single day. Is there, I see, I'll, when you said go get the pinch body fat, I didn't know you could do a body fat other than the pinch. So this one at our gym, you get on it and you take your shoes off and it's like a scale. and then you put your hands on these like sensors. Oh, okay. And it does some sort of calculation. So I was talking to Josh last night and it just, it doesn't end. We're FaceTiming and he's like, yeah, I was just on Claude trying to find out what type of body fat machine I can order.
42:45Jennifer:The home version. So he can do it. And yeah, he's just randomly asking random people, what's your body fat? And then we've got chat GPT, if you or somebody you know is suffering from, And I'm just like, this is just, this is untenable. This is just untenable. All right, listener, if you're like me, summer is here. I'm changing apartments. I want to take my kids on vacation and I don't want to have to worry about whether I can afford it or not. That's why I want to introduce you to Monarch. Monarch is the personal finance app that tracks everything, accounts, investments, saving goals, and spending.
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45:47Okay.
45:48Jennifer:So Dylan Latham on twink maxing, here he is. Here's an excerpt from him. Responding to the host's follow-up questions about whether he became a twink intentionally or by accident. Latham added, I naturally am a bit more skinny. I naturally act a bit more feminine. I'm a fucking metrosexual. And they're also embracing being called gay. Let's play the clip. I just think it's really funny that gay is used as an insult because I am not insulted by it whatsoever. Cause it's like the only insults that work are ones that have validity to them. So if you made fun of my blue hair, I literally couldn't even comprehend being offended because I don't have blue hair.
46:35So I don't understand the idea of using that as an insult. It really doesn't make sense. And I think I literally take it as a compliment. The gay dating market is a lot more competitive. So the average person, when they say you look gay, um, means that they're saying you look better than average.
46:50Jennifer:Okay. So Ryan proposes the question, could straight male narcissism be the tool we didn't know we needed to fight homophobia. Because here's the thing. I was just talking about all these hot gay men at my gym and it just hits different. And the dating market is more competitive and they are way more pulled together. They're dressed better. They work out harder. The grooming is better. Everything about a gay man is better. So now are straight men looking to gay men saying hashtag goals? And will that help us with homophobia? Well, first of all, I think gay, uh, straight men should strive for that because I do too.
47:33I mean, I think it's, it's goals for sure. I mean, I want to strive to be as put together as a gay man and I'm falling woefully short, but here's the thing. You look at all these manospheres and I'll just take a couple of examples, like a Joe Rogan, super tiny, short, short, short, but really muscular. So that, that whole look, the tiny, but super muscular is an immediate red flag for me. So if I was like a male on the dating circuit, I would want to be lean and fit and well-groomed and smell nice and, you know, have nice clothes and all that. I would think that would be way, I mean, as a female, I am not attracted to the super muscly because I think it just sends the whole WWE message.
48:20Jennifer:Well, and I also think, and I know you probably think this too, like Joe Rogan, I immediately think steroids. And then we know from the science what steroids do to penises. And so then it's just an immediate, yeah. You think shrinkage, you think soft serve, you think, you know, problems, you know, with rising, with erections, et cetera. and so and yeah the shrinkage and all of that so you think okay so this guy wanted these big muscles but was willing to sacrifice his penis for that right which is an interesting which is an interesting thing for men because they're so penis centric they're so cock centric right so it's an interesting gamble to want larger muscles at the expense of your dick yeah okay but here's the thing though i think that these people are so obsessed with their looks because i dated somebody that did steroids and um the the penis shrinkage it comes on gradually so here's what i think happens i think they think i've got these great big muscles i look so good and then the shrinkage happens over time it's not just like an immediate so there for a while you're like i have big muscles and a big dick.
49:33And then it's like roid rage and soft serve.
49:37Jennifer:Let's unpack several things here. I have just a gajillion follow-up questions. We're not going to get to callers today because we are going to deep dive into Pumps' ex-boyfriend who used steroids. Let me ask you this. Is this college boyfriend that used steroids the same person that was your fitness trainer later in life that you fucked while you were married, yes or no? Correct. Yes. Same person. Okay. Same person. All right. All right. So was he using the steroids in college? Yes. Okay. And so you said that you observed a fall off in penis size? Not in performance. Wait, you observed a fall off in performance?
50:24Yeah. I mean, just not, you know, just what, not as stiff, you know, little, not soft serve. Like when I was married, not like that, but just softer, softer serve, not soft serve, but just softer. Okay.
50:42Jennifer:And then that infected his performance. Yeah. Yeah. Overall. Yes. Okay. And is that what ultimately caused you to break up with him? we all know you're a size queen you talk about no size non-stop on this podcast you're young you just kind of flitter around did you at the time think boy these steroids sure are impacting his penis no like not like during sex you mean or like in real time just in general or just like that it's just not as good it's just yeah something's going on with his penis two together until later. Okay. And then when you hit it again at a later date, when you had the revenge affair on your husband, right?
51:28Jennifer:Number one, I thought it was pretty, I thought your revenge affair was pretty good that you went back to your college dating school. Instead of having to get reacquainted with it with a new penis, you were like, you know what? I'm going to go back to this one. So from college to adult, full-blown adulthood. So you're banging him in college and then you start banging him during your revenge affair, which I completely supported listener, by the way. I babysat her kids while she did it. She babysat the kids. She's a pal. I was totally supportive of it because her ex-husband deserved it. But during this time, the latter time, the affair time, was it even more fallen off from the, you know, you're talking a couple of decades later here from the sustained steroid use?
52:17Jennifer:Because I remember at the time you feeling like it was pretty good. Yeah, no, it was, it was good. But I also wanted to do it before I went to marriage counseling. So, I mean, I wasn't exactly in the best frame of mind. I mean, I would go into marriage counseling with the FFG. Like I would set it up. If the counseling was at 1030 in the morning, I would set the sex up with the, at 930. He's fucked up. I mean, that's just not normal. Shit, crazy ass shit like that. So I'm not in the best position to judge, but I don't, I think the sex was good in adults. I don't think there were any problems later in life.
52:52Okay.
52:52Jennifer:And do you think that the steroid use was sustained during all of this time or do you think maybe he... No, I don't think so. Because it really makes you pretty like... I mean, after a while, you kind of get crazy a little bit. And how do you know this? You observed this? Yeah. I mean, just angrier, quicker to anger. Reactions were more intense. You know, it was pretty obvious probably after like six months. Doesn't it cause a bunch of agony? I didn't notice that, but I definitely noticed a change in personality. I think this is far better for the straight man. They need to get off the steroids and look to the gay men for inspiration, for hygiene, fashion, fitness.
53:42Jennifer:Because gay men, I will say, you rarely see like a bulky, too big gay man. Like they are fit and they can have some bulk to them, but it's, it's a lean, attractive bulk. I don't like a huge Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's just not attractive at all. No, it's not. In fact, there's this guy. Okay. So speaking of this, so there's this guy at my gym, he's a trainer and he is so attractive. Have you had sex with him? He smells, no, I wish. Um, he smells great. And so this whole time that I've been going to this gym, I thought he was gay. And so I asked my trainer, should I go, is he gay? Because I was going to take one of his classes.
54:21And I was like, is he gay? She's like, no, he just got married. And I was like, to a woman? She was like, yeah. And I go, I'm so shocked because he has everything together. Great body, great outfits, great smell, great look, very polished. You just don't find a straight man that hits all those cylinders very often.
54:44Jennifer:Did you not ask any follow-up questions after that? Or you just said that and that was the end of the conversation? No, we were just talking about how good he smells and his workout steps. Here's the error. Here's the error you made. You're in the Bible Belt. And if I had been there, I would have immediately pulled up with follow-up questions and said, is he religious? And if she would have said, oh, yes, he's very religious. and he goes to the mega church and he's up there and he's the worship leader, whatever they call it, we're going to worship practice, praise practice, and he's the praise practice coach, you immediately know he's as gay as all get out.
55:24Jennifer:So in the Bible Belt, when you see a man that is overtly metrosexual, you have to follow up with questions about their religious beliefs, because oftentimes he could still very much be gay. I'm just saying. Okay, I'm going to follow up tomorrow. You need to follow up. If he goes to a megachurch, if he goes to a megachurch, I'm telling you, G-A-Y, exclamation point, neon sign. Don't you think, Ryan? Yeah. It's just, it's just, now I am, I'm married to a metrosexual. right i oh my god and i in new york there's every straight man up here is metrosexual it's challenged my it's challenged my gaydar a lot yeah it's still excellent it's still really really good really good but it's challenged it a bit because in oklahoma it was super easy because yeah super obvious um but i do i do think you need to follow up and report back with us because i i support lifting up gay men and their embrace of fashion, hygiene, fitness, diet, all of the stuff that they do.
56:47Jennifer:I support straight men looking to that as hashtag inspo. I just think it's great. I think it's absolutely fantastic and I support it completely. And I think that might be all we have. We've gotten down some crazy shit today. Yeah, we have. We absolutely have. Kylie, do you have anything you would like to add before we go off? I think that that's all I can think of. I think we covered things I didn't imagine talking about today. I'm just glad that we're highlighting something that is a real problem in the world, I mean, not just the United States, the, the, the girls night out, your friends with a lesbian couple, how do you tiptoe into that without creating a massive situation?
57:40And resentment. Like if you said no spouses and the girl thought you were like, the wife thought you were friends. Like if Kylie's my friend and she, and I don't invite Ana, but Ana thought we were friends, then it creates resentment. So yeah, that's a minefield. I just can't imagine who wouldn't want Kylie and Anna. Yeah, luckily for us. Perfect pairing. We don't have to worry about this problem. Yeah, but you know, sometimes - What if we want to go separately?
58:05Jennifer:Here's the thing though. Here's the thing. It's not that you don't want Anna. It's sometimes you want a night where nobody is with their significant other. I agree. And lesbians, at least the ones that I know, have a real tendency for PDA. they cannot help themselves there is a lot of lesbian pda which i support and i really don't support pda but because they're lesbians i make a caveat for that but you go out to this dinner or bar or whatever it is and then you've got a couple of lezzies over there holding hands arms around each other suge babe honey you're like we kind of wanted to go out to not hear all of that tonight right i just think it's something that we need to talk about and i would like to let the illustrious in this cult to comment about this in the comment section because i like to highlight hashtag lesbian issues yeah yes and not enough people are doing that no is any other podcast doing this no is any other pro blazers do you think anybody else is talking about this i think this is probably the most lesbian podcast on the internet i agree america's top dei podcast america's top lesbian podcast america's top let me check notes twinks maxing contest twinks maxing i would definitely be in on that a contest you know pumps kind of butch maxes
59:41i do you kind of butch max i'm a butch softball i mean the whole nine yeah the softball shit's on the other end i was ahead of my time you were the softball shit's wild love it yeah she loves it didn't you go down to like some hotel and like cheer them on like
1:00:01Jennifer:they walk through and you're like way to go Josie yeah way to go and you call them all by their first names absolutely we're friends yeah it's okay right with a couple yeah I love it I love it I think it's great poems I love your lesbian advocacy sports advocacy all right speaking of advocacy go to single screen pre-order my book not today fascist where's my hat you have a choice you can say today fascist or you can say not today fascist and this choice will go on and on and on and on okay seriously in all seriousness buy my book pre-order my book not today fascist by the way i think erica kirk is a fascist and um i don't mention her in this book.
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1:01:26Jennifer:I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I've had it with that.
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