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30:28Jennifer:It's naughty. It's nasty. It's Satan. Beazelbub, the devil. You know, they really think it's like this devilish thing. In this purity culture is also this pro-life culture. And I've long felt that the pro-life culture is so embedded into white evangelical Christianity because number one, white evangelical Christianity puts this focus on Mary. Like Mary couldn't have given birth to this great guy, Jesus, if she were dirty and had sex. So she had to be a virgin. And then all of these boys are told all of their lives, you can't masturbate. That's nasty. That's from the devil. You know, you can't lust after girls.

31:13Jennifer:That's nasty. That's from the devil. Well, of course they're lusting after girls. Of course they're beating off. It's perfectly normal. And so they start hating the object of their desire and the object of their desire is a woman. So if a woman gets pregnant, then they know she's a dirty slut and she should be forced publicly with her pregnant belly to carry the scarlet letter, if you will, this dirty slut in the womb and then be an unmarried woman. So we all know that she's the type of woman you don't marry. She's the slut. And a lot of people in this purity culture think of women in terms like this.

31:53Jennifer:I remember I had a conversation with your ex-husband one time and he was talking about strippers or something really disturbing. And I was like, that's so disgusting. Like, you know, you have a daughter. He goes, oh no, no, my daughter would never be like this. These are different types of girls. Right. There it is right there. And they're able to dehumanize groups of people and groups of women. These are women we will marry. These are good women. And these are the women that we fuck. And if any of these women that we fuck get pregnant, tough titties, you're going to have to carry that scarlet letter of the form of a human being forever.

32:29Jennifer:And they take away their autonomy because it all comes down to the fact that this religion, why, why did Mary have to be a virgin? Because there is misogyny baked into it. Absolutely. That if she had had sex, then that would have dirtied her up, even though she was married. And like, like it's believable that we're going to think that this married woman was a virgin and then pops out a kid. I mean, it's just the fact that people believe that kind of blows my mind still. And I'm sure there's people that are like huge Christians on here right now. They're like, oh my God, the blasphemy. But like pause for a second and genuinely use critical thinking on that.

33:09Jennifer:Married virgin gives birth. Like it's just not believable. And then inside that story right there is a lot of inherent misogyny, a lot, but we're taught, oh, we can't ever criticize religion. We can't ever criticize, you know, the, the Virgin Mary. Yeah, you can, you actually can, you actually can critically think. Somebody just arbitrarily said you can't do that because they want to control you, but actually you can critically think about it. And you can say, why would it diminish the life goals and all of the radical empathy that her son had had she had an orgasm during conception? Why would that diminish the accomplishments of her son, Jesus Christ, one of the most famous people ever?

34:01Jennifer:Well, it wouldn't, but the misogyny starts in the very first chapter, like God created Adam and then he needed a helper. So then he took a rib and made Eve to be his helper. I mean, And it starts there. And here's the deal. It was so internalized in myself and my family and my upbringing. I didn't realize it until I was away from it. That's just how it was. That's why it's so dangerous. Well, and the problem with this purity culture is a lot of women co-sign on to slut-shaming other women. And they partake in the bigotry. All right. So we have a guest today that I'm going to interview in studio.

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38:00Jennifer:She released her latest album, Dreamsicle. I love that name. Last year, 2026, marks the 10-year anniversary of her debut album, Hero. Welcome, Maren. Hi. It's so good to be here. Welcome to I've Had It. But yeah, I'm such a fan of the show and what y 'all do and just being from the South and hearing the way that y 'all cuss and just like go against the grain. Just very, very inspiring. So thank you for having me. So you're a blue dot and red state. Yeah, I kind of always have been because I'm from Texas originally. Now I live in Tennessee where shit's like really popping off right now. Yeah. But yeah, it's kind of nice to be here during all of that to chat about it because it's just insane.

38:44Jennifer:It really is. And I think it's really important. You know, country music is a part of American culture. And a lot of country music, it's just we affirm, okay, that has to be MAGA. But that's not the case. No, I think historically it's like my heroes were not towing this line of like faux patriotism. They were all – well, I mean Christopherson, an actual war vet, was always speaking up about, you know, against, you know, crazy nationalism. And just he understood the, you know, the plight of actually being in war and what it does to veterans. And so, yeah, like the highwaymen, Willie, Waylon, it's just like they were all really vocal and kind of left of center.

39:35Right. Because they were smart and they were writing poetry and speaking to the every man and every woman. It wasn't like this weird thing now where the last 20 years has been almost this like cosplay cowboy thing where it's like YSL boots that have never touched dirt. like that Bo Burnham song, the pandering song. Yeah. But yeah, it's just very bizarre because it's like those people aren't even writing their own songs. Other people are writing them for them. And so it's just, it's been a huge loss of like respect for country music because it's become so like in some pockets synonymous with MAGA.

40:17And that's just completely antithetical to the country music I was raised on, which were like these people that had massive empathy and songwriting chops. And like Johnny Cash was performing at prisons. Totally. So yeah. And then when you talk about Loretta Lynn, like writing The Pill, you know, which that song was banned from so many country radio stations at the time. Dolly has always been an amazing ally and just beloved. But it's just, yeah, it's a weird pocket right now.

40:48Jennifer:There's a lot of performative patriotism in that. And you spoke about this faux support for the troops. And it's something my husband and I speak about a lot because we, I was born in Texas, but raised in Oklahoma City. So we go to the Oklahoma City Thunder Games, which we love. We love our team. But there's this moment where everybody does the national anthem. Yeah. And Oklahoma is deeply, deeply red. Yeah. And as you know, the liberals in red states are the toughest liberals the Democratic Party has, period, full stop. But when I see these triple Trump voters stand up, they take their hat off and you can just tell they're just like, oh, this national anthem hits so hard.

41:29I always think, fuck you.

41:31Jennifer:You never give a shit about VA hospitals. You don't give a shit that 35 % of all homeless people are veterans. Yeah. 35%. And they just talk about what a nuisance homeless people are and that hypocrisy. and the dehumanization is so grotesque to me. Yeah. And I mean, not to generalize, but I have to, it's like, I doubt those people taking the MAGA hats off to sing the anthem or donating their time or money to give back to those communities of the men and women who have served, who are now, you know, addicted to drugs or on the streets. And it's just, it's, but it's just yeah, it is performative.

42:15And having performed on military bases and have military family, I have, you know, the utmost respect for being able to sing the songs I sing and have that platform because of the fight for that freedom. But it's also like when they're done, like no one gives a shit about them anymore. And so that's the saddest part. But no, it's definitely interesting. Yeah.

42:44Jennifer:All right. Maren, what have you had it with? I've had it with a couple of things. This week, like top of mind, I just got off tour and we were celebrating because it was the last night. We were in my hometown. We were doing a Dallas show and all my family came out. And it's like, I didn't want to overdo it because we had a long drive back. but it's like whether I've had it with having either one drink or if I have four I'm gonna feel the same amount of dog shit the next day so it's like what is the point yeah it's like I either should just go for it all the way or stop altogether but um I don't know if it's like me being in my mid-30s all of that's changed or like post motherhood or like post pregnancy see my body has just changed it doesn't process it the same way it has to be like age but it's so annoying because it's such a it's such a crap shoot because it's like sometimes you'll have like two and then you'll feel absolutely great the next day and then sometimes it's like no I'm down for the count and I don't drink like a ton of liquor or anything I'm like a wine girl now but maybe I need to switch it up in the middle of night if you drink wine do you wake up yeah sometimes I used to drink wine.

43:56Jennifer:I don't drink anymore, but I used to drink wine. And it would wake me up in the middle of the night at like three and I would just wake up and I'd be like, go back to sleep. And I couldn't. And then I would be up for about two hours and I'd finally fall back asleep. And I drank so much water when I woke up at three that I'm up later peeing. And then, yeah, you just feel like dog shit. Yeah. So I'm definitely over that part because it feels unfair. Like one or four, the outcome is the same. It just feels, yeah, it's pissing me off because it happened a couple days ago and I was just like three days of recovery off of like not a big night.

44:33Jennifer:Yeah, I know. It just seems like it's not worth it. It seems like a total racket. Drinking is really fun when you're young. Yeah. God, it's so fun and you can just wake up and I remember I didn't feel hungover and was ready to do it again the next night, but oh my God, now I think I would just die. Yeah. And just the responsibilities of like the kids. Yeah. And just knowing you're never going to sleep fully again until they're graduated probably. I just have resigned myself to that reality. All right. Something else you emailed me about that you wanted to discuss that you've had it with is a senator from Tennessee.

45:07Jennifer:I just want you to go off on that. Well, she's actually running for governor of Tennessee now. That's right. Unfortunately, all are bad. But But yeah, Marsha Blackburn, I'm not a fan. I just think that's saying it lightly. But just all of the stuff after the Louisiana, the Supreme Court decision last week, I just knew Tennessee was going to be the first like domino to fall next because she's just so giddy for any sort of approval from the president and Bill Lee, our governor, current governor right now as well. It's just like I remember years ago when the drag ban was happening in Tennessee, which was so like unenforceable and stupid.

45:51That picture of him came out like wearing a skirt. And it was just like perfect. But it's like just encapsulates the hypocrisy of them. And I just yeah. But I mean, I'm I know today is actually like the vote in the Tennessee house. So we have amazing people like Justin Jones, Justin Pearson, Gloria Johnson. They're like, you know, and also Stacey Abrams came and spoke. Oh, amazing. At the Tennessee State House in Nashville yesterday, I think, or the day before. So it's just like I'm glad that people are putting eyes on it outside of just our state legislator. And it's like why it's so important to vote in the state elections because this is why it's happening.

46:34And just reading up on it today because they finally released their map and like the redraw lines look like fucking silly string.

46:44Jennifer:Right. And having a representative, they're carving up, you know, Memphis. Out of nine districts in Tennessee, one is Democratic and it's Memphis, which is a highly populous city and majority black. Right. And the fact that they have like carved it up to where a congressman in Nashville, in Davidson County, will be representing people in Memphis, which is three hours away. Like Tennessee is already small, but like that's like representing constituents three hours away is just. It's amazing the lengths that these people will go to suppress black people. It's just, you think, God, maybe we've made progress here.

47:27Jennifer:And then the Supreme Court gets the Voting Rights Act. And then Marsha Blackburn. Kylie, do you have a picture of her that we can, for review? This is who we're talking about for those of you on YouTube. We're talking about this woman right here who every chance she can get is going to vote as a racist, as a homophobe. Yeah, that's not a Brazilian blowout. That's a Caucasian blowout. Yeah. And like this woman, she needs, she needs some gay people in her life. She needs some honesty in her life. And it's so upsetting when you see women like this carry the water for the patriarchy and you know, they're going to fuck over all the women in Tennessee.

48:07Jennifer:Is there an abortion ban in Tennessee? Yeah. I mean, it's been cracked down on, but obviously overturning Roe was a big hammer. But no, it's really scary. I mean, I remember after I had my son, my OB, she was already kind of on her way to retirement. But she was just like, you know, when there's that threat of these OBs being thrown in prison for providing health care, life-saving health care. Yeah, it was just so emotional and sad because I was like, this woman saved my life and my sons. He was breached. Like, both of our heart rates were dropping. I had to have an emergency C-section. She saved our lives.

48:50And the fact that, like, I don't know, just that being so real. And I'm like very privileged and I, but I, I just see like our state is, and I think this is why I'm, I still live there is because, and maybe it's like, because I'm from Texas. Of course, I love New York and people have wondered like, why don't you live in LA or New York just with your work now? But I was like, I really, even though it can be depressing and scary, living somewhere where a lot of people don't have the choice to just up and leave. Like anyone that's like go to Hollywood or get out of the country if you don't like it.

49:28It's like most people don't have that privilege. You're right. I would like to stay and fight. And I'm loving all of my peers and fellow Tennesseans in the halls of our capital right now just like booing the fuck out of these losers. These like these cheaters. Like they know historically they can never win without cheating because Tennessee is a very low voter turnout state. And that is the only reason it's always red. And Nashville's blue. They know Memphis is blue. These are highly, you know, lived in cities and people show up to vote. But they have carved Nashville up into three districts. Now they're trying to do the same to Memphis.

50:12So my hope is that in November, just kind of like, what was it, the Victor Orban thing where it was just like so undeniable numbers.

50:23Jennifer:Too big to rig. Too big to rig. Too many people turn out because they're going to try. Trump is going to try to rig it. He's already priming the public with the way he's used ICE in Minneapolis. That was a dry run. That was to get the public ready for that. And we know historically the KKK would send people to voting booths in the South to intimidate black voters. And I think he's also going to put the military. You know, he's always said we have to get the enemy from within. He's obsessed, laser focused on voting. He's still trying to prove the 2020 election. This guy's a nut. But you know what really pisses me off, Maren, is we're talking about the abortion in Oklahoma, where I'm from, total abortion ban.

51:05Jennifer:A lot of this would not be possible, these laws that are so antithetical to women's well-being, without the help of women, without the help of the Marsha Blackburns. And what they do, Marsha Blackburn, is she gender washes these policies that make women less safe. And it's a really dangerous, insidious thing to do. And, you know, Kash Patel is the leader of the FBI, the director of the FBI. And this is just a little something I've just kind of been obsessed with for quite some time. I want to read you something he tweeted and get your information, get some feedback on this. So he's talking about his girlfriend.

51:47Jennifer:Her name is Alexis. I'm going to go to the last paragraph here. And he said, the disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis, a true patriot and a woman I'm proud to call my partner in life are beyond pathetic. She is a rock solid conservative and a country music sensation who has done more for this nation than most will in 10 lifetimes. So you're a country music sensation. Do you know Alexis? I don't know. I don't know. Have you ever heard of her? I mean, she probably has only heard of me because of like every tweet or like just thing of mine that goes viral is always immediately sent to like these far right conservative.

52:34Right. pundit-y websites that just like regurgitate the same thing from like a bigger news source. And it just like trickles down. But I mean, you've never heard of her though. I mean, I don't really know. Yeah.

52:49Jennifer:I don't know if I could give it a string. I think, I think he's lying about her being a country music sensation and a patriot is what I'm getting at. Cause I, we, we've looked and we can't find any evidence of either. Now I make the point, Maren, that perhaps her patriotism, he said she's done more for this country than most people have in 10 lifetimes, is that she's blowing cash so that no other American woman has to. And that could be, I mean, that is a patriotic. She is a patriot. Right? Yeah. Right, guys? I mean, that's patriotism. Yeah. It's patriarchy, patriotism. I kind of, something tells me, I think Cash Patel's lying about this country music sensation Because you are, you're a multi-platinum, Grammy award winning singer songwriter who doesn't give a fuck and will stand up for everybody.

53:38Jennifer:Trans people, gay people, black people. You don't give a fuck if it hurts your record sales because it means something to you to stand up for universal human rights. Yeah, I just, I think like so much has changed in the last 10 years. But I think I was very – I don't know if the word is even radicalized because I was like 11. But I just remember like post 9-11 and then post like the Dixie Chicks or the Chicks getting canceled for being right. I just was like – and I'm from Texas. So like 20 years later, it's the Chicks and Beyonce on stage at the CMA Awards. And it's my first CMA Awards. And I had just won.

54:19I just performed my song, My Church, with like the Preservation Hall Jazz Band and the McCrary Sisters. It was just like incredible music that night. And I'm freaking the fuck out that like Beyonce is in the same room as me and the chicks are back. I feel like this is such a gift. But then there are like people around me – people are having fun. But then there are people around me just like arms crossed. Like what are they doing here? And I was like, are you pissed that Beyonce's here or are you pissed that the chicks are back? Because like you still have this 20-year weird ass grudge. Yeah, probably both.

54:54But I was just like living my best life that night and it just – something changed in me because I was like, oh, wow, I'm celebrating my work tonight. I'm being celebrated. But I'm also like these people are really meaningful to me in my music and my statehood and they're already like even in person I see people bristling. And I was just like kind of inspired by that. And I just I took that with me and I don't know if I've ever stopped. But I just don't want like greed or cowardice or bigotry ever in the biography that my grandchildren read about me. And so it won't be.

55:35Jennifer:See, that is such good conviction. And you're a huge advocate for the LGBTQ plus community. And I think there's a personal story in all of that that you can share with us, what sparks your advocacy and your family's advocacy for the LGBTQ plus community. Yeah, I think just being from the South and having gay friends in a very conservative town, I just never saw bravery like that. It just was astounding to me, even as a young kid, the fear that must instill in people. And some people never come out of the closet because it's just more comfortable to live in that sort of, I don't know, not inauthentic, but safer in their minds and just like get through life and get over it.

56:30I mean, it's really sad, but I think just it got bigger for me when I moved to Nashville and I started working with other people in the queer community that have the same kind of background of me, like, you know, just from the South, got out, but like remains really proud of that like background because so much of like just the food and the music, like Texas music is so diverse. Like it's such a big state. It's its own country essentially. but I learned so much from being from there. And then, yeah, the set community has always taken really good care of me. And so I just think that I'll never be able to repay them, but their advocacy for themselves, me starting as like an ally, and then I came out two years ago as bi, and just being embraced even more so.

57:23And I just always say like, my crowds at my shows, because I've made those decisions over time. I've lost fans.

57:30Jennifer:Of course. But you solidify something that's really authentically yours and there's community out there and just people are, they feel safe and the crowd looks diverse and they're safe to be there. They're not freaked out about leaving the show and going to the parking lot and being cornered. Like hopefully we've run all of the assholes out by now. No shit. You said something I think that really struck with me, as you said, that community has always taken such great care of me. And I have had that same experience. So I was raised in Oklahoma in the Bible belt and everybody I knew were super religious, but my family wasn't.

58:08Jennifer:And so there was a lot of ridiculing and judging because we didn't go to church and weren't believers. So when I went to college, I found companionship in a home hanging out with a lot of gay men. And because the same people that bullied me for not being religious had bullied them for being gay. So we shared a bonding in the same, like, we don't like these Bible study freaks because they're mean, they're judgmental. And I'm not saying all Bible study people are that way, but a lot of them are in the South. And these men took care of me. They took, I mean, they took great care of me. And we, the great thing about the gay community and for all of the homophobes out there, what you're missing is they just bring you in.

58:51Jennifer:They bring you in and make you part of the most fun night, the most fun experience, the most fun parade, the most fun drag show, the most fun gay bars you can imagine. All you have to do is just not be a fucking dick. You're going to have the time of your life. They're going to make you feel so good and so pretty. Yeah, so pretty and so safe. And I think there's something to be said that the least interesting person to me is a person who says, everything's gone great in my life. My parents were perfect. I've never had problems. That's not interesting to me. And when people have had to face adversity, especially the way the religious communities and white supremacist communities can treat the LGBTQ plus community, and you and I both know coming from that part of the country.

59:40Jennifer:It's the bravery to come out against those kind of headwinds is something that none of these alpha truck, Trump flag truck, none. They never have that bravery, Maren, ever. Yeah, there's just such a lack of curiosity. And I know it's like sort of a cliche general statement, but there is so much repressed like homosexuality within those communities. I agree. And it's why they're so obsessed with like tamping down on their rights is because they are so jealous that these people live in their complete, authentic, truthful selves and they're celebrating it. They're not hiding it. That's really – they're super envious of that I think.

1:00:27And, you know, my family, I've got a lot of Republicans in my family. And I just think being from there, but really like challenging them since I was little and them hearing me out, too, because it's like I'm 11. What the fuck am I talking about? But I really just I've never gotten off that like sort of stubborn ass. Like I need to find the truth train. But even if it's unpopular, even if it makes you a black sheep, like even within country music feeling like that, like I still just I feel like I'm always coming at it, even though I can like absolutely be like a silly, funny bitch about it. I feel like I'm coming from a place of good where I don't always think their intentions are about empathy or bringing people closer together.

1:01:16It's always like, you know, get the fuck out if you don't like it here.

1:01:19Jennifer:Have you changed minds? Have you had people reach out to you that say because you have come out as bi or because you're so accepting that's helped me? Yeah, I think so. And obviously music has been my vehicle to reach people's hearts. But like I also think music is inherently political. Living is political. Totally. So anytime someone tries to say that it's not a part of that or shut up and sing or whatever, which is fucking oxymoronic. You can't shut up and sing. I've just never understood that one. But I just seemed like I'm just trying to like love my neighbor and kind of zoom out from my own bullshit and like do charity work.

1:02:05Bring my son who's now six and do it too because I want him to like know that he's privileged. And I want him to grow up knowing that he's helping people in his community alongside me and not just being like side stage at the show. That's cool too. But yeah, just really like giving back because I feel like that's important. And especially with him having like two musical parents that are, you know, doing well. Yeah, I just that's been important for me. But I feel like my parents have really stood by me in so many ways. Like when Tucker Carlson called me a lunatic. Okay, tell us about that. Tell my listener about that.

1:02:39That's some juicy tea. This is before he was let go of Fox, but I was clapping back to some like transphobe on the internet. And I called her Insurrection Barbie, which like I don't even think they're offended by that. I think they were offended that it was funny because they're like, damn it. Yeah. Damn, she got me on that one. But I'm just like shooting the shit, trying to make myself laugh. but uh yeah they went on tucker's show and he was like and who is this lunatic country music person maren morris and um i obviously thought that was hysterical like what a what a way to like intro my name um and we put that on a t-shirt and like sold it for charity and it was like something crazy like three hundred thousand dollars worth of like in the first week but uh did you donate that to an LGBTQ.

1:03:34Of course, trans lifeline. I should have put it in his name.

1:03:38Jennifer:I love you, man. That's so fabulous. Of course, trans lifeline. Yeah. I was like, I don't know if people realize how petty I can go. Oh, I'm here for the cause. I am sad. Yeah. Um, but I, yeah. So like my parents, obviously a ton of, like a ton of people in our family that watch Fox when it's almost like the spell broke a little bit once you like fuck with your own. Um, but no, My parents have always stood up for me, even to their own friends and family, because there are people that have known me since I was a baby that are like Trumpy. And they're like coming to my parents like, oh, what did your daughter say this week?

1:04:17And my mom will be like, fuck you. And she'll like mama bear me because at the end of the day, like even though we don't always see eye to eye, that's her kid. and um but no it's just like we get into these long talks about their their old friends that just like are supremely unhappy and they're super MAGA and they'll be up at two or three in the morning just rage baiting posting like you know AI slop and like 4chan shit like super super like just xenophobic homophobic shit and almost like Trump does it like two and three in the morning And then they'll like delete it the next day because maybe they like woke up and were like, oh shit, that's crazy.

1:04:59Yeah. But it's like this is their reality they're living in. And then they're like coming to my parents to like, you know, chastise me. And it's like, I'm good, boo. Like I'm doing all right.

1:05:12Jennifer:I ain't up at three in the morning posting that crazy shit. What I think is so important, Maren, is when I asked you what charity you sent it to and you said the LG – the trans lifeline. Yeah. Because right now there's a tendency, the right is completely trans obsessed. I've never seen a group of people as MAGA obsessed with genitals and gay sex and trans sex as much as I have MAGA. It's creepy. They need to check into it. But you hear some establishment Democrats on the left say, well, we shouldn't really be talking about trans rights. And I think to myself, my God, But what are we if we can't stand up for less than 1 % of the population who is getting bullied by these freaks on the right that are so obsessed with gay sex and genitalia?

1:05:59Jennifer:They will not shut the fuck up about it, Mag. It's all they talk about. Trump's number one commercial was a trans commercial because that's all these people want to hear about. And so it really infuriates me. Well, it's very sexualized. It's very. All the Pornhub top searches state by state, wasn't it? It was probably like Tennessee or like Alabama or something was trans. Yeah. Trans porn. And it's like, you guys are fucking obsessed because you're like... Fetishizing it. You're fetishizing it. Yeah. And same thing with the RNC grinder shutdown. But what I think is so brave of you is that out of all the charities, you went, I'm going, I'm going to give it to the trans lifeline.

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1:11:40And I've had a couple of nice experiences, not a match for life, but like nice. But it is like on one hand, I could count those. The rest have been either like diabolic, like demons or people that like they seem okay at first and then the mask slips and it's like life ruinous shit. So I'm like, no, I think, yeah, definitely had it.

1:12:07Jennifer:So you're not on the apps anymore? No, I've deactivated the one I was on just because I was like, this is crazy. It's not worth the stress. Are you single? I am. Oh, all right. Which is, I love, I love being single, but every once in a while, like once or twice a year, I'll be like, I'll try it again. And then immediately, immediate, no. Some freak. Fuck no. Yeah. Had it. All right. Had it or hit it, the Met Gala. I would say hit it just because we need something to look at. I like that it's not an award show also. Like it's not that long. And I like that it's charitable. I haven't. But I watched it this week and was really – What did you think about Jeff Bezos?

1:12:51I mean that was just – the whole thing with Vogue and them is so weird. This like obsession. But no one else has the obsession except for the top people at Vogue and then – Lauren Sanchez. Yeah. It's just I don't feel like the people are asking for that. Like there's not the demand. I don't think anybody really wants to see Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez.

1:13:13Jennifer:Here's my thing. I like to see pretty people dressed up. Yeah. I like it. I like the art of it. Totally. I agree. And normally I would have always been like, oh, I'm going to watch the red carpet on the Met Gala. I hate watched about 10 minutes of it this year because I was so mad about Jeff Bezos buying his way there. Yeah. And then in New York up on the buildings, they had all of these union workers that had been fired from Amazon that were protesting the Met Gala. Oh, wow. Because Jeff Bezos has made$85 billion since Trump was sworn in the second time. $85 billion. I don't think any of our brains can comprehend how much money that it is.

1:13:56Jennifer:And he's worth hundreds of billions more than that. Yeah. And he's fired tens of thousands of people this year, set to fire even more because he's going to replace them with AI. And then he demeans his workers that are trying to unionize to get health care and a higher wage. Yeah. And so I was really hating on the Met Gala this year. Yeah, that's a really good point. Because of Jeff. I mean, it's just, it's all cracking. Because also like 85 billion, it's like, where is that sitting? Exactly. It's like these like lizard skin suit billionaires, like hoard all this wealth, exploit all these people.

1:14:33And then it's like, where do they go? Like their New Zealand bunker by the end of life. Like, I just don't know where their end game is. I don't think they have one. But it's just like you have everything. thing. You could, I would, if I had any money even close to that, or even just like a small fraction, you would never see me again. Right. I'm not going to the Met Gallup. Like I would be like on an Island somewhere, like giving the rest of it away to charity. And then like, why would you ever need to see me ever on a carpet again?

1:15:02Jennifer:It's weird. I call them the billionaire bedwetters because they're just always like, if you get on Elon Musk's Twitter feed, he's so aggrieved. He acts like he is a black man battling racism in the 1940s and 50s. I mean, and he's a trillionaire. Yeah. He's a trillionaire, richest man in the world who's chronically online. Jeff Bezos, you have all this money, you have a bank account that could choke a bull and you're firing people that want to join a union. Why not be like, you know what? Not only did I build this incredible company, but I'm going to show people how to take incredible care of humanity.

1:15:37Jennifer:But it's like, it's something, once you make a billion dollars, I'm convinced now that some sort of breakage in the brain happens with empathy and they get some sort of psychosis and like - Addictions. Yeah. And some sort of steroid style entitlement. Yeah. Like they feel like they're entitled to even more than what they already have. Yeah. And they're not like building libraries and putting their names on like ballets, like rich people used to do where it's like, I want my name to live on this cultural epicenter and have people come to it and enjoy art. Right. They don't enjoy art, actually. You're never going to – it's like they'd rather just change it to the Trump Center instead of the Kennedy Center than actually be charitable or give a shit about arts.

1:16:26They can't enjoy art because enjoying art requires empathy and it requires humanity. They don't have that anymore or ever did. So, of course not. Like they'd rather just walk the carpet at the Met Gala. I don't – they're like – I mean I'm sure the money they paid to be there hopefully goes to charity. But yeah, it's just – I don't – yeah, why do they exist?

1:16:49Jennifer:All right. Had it or hid it, country, music, politics. I mean I would hit it with the progressive part. I like the loud people that are brave and like the Tyler Childers, Margot Price, Mickey Guyton, Britney Spencer's Sturgill Simpson. Like there's so many that are truly like just badasses and they're incredible songwriters and give a shit. So like I will always ride hard for that set of country music because that's representing the real people. um i would say i've had it with the other side that just panders to their audience that is paying so much money to even fund that lifestyle for them to fly private to mar-a-lago in their boots that have never touched dirt i mean there's a saying where it's like you probably know this because it's like so southern but it's like uh all hat no cattle oh yeah that's all of them yeah like most of them.

1:17:51That's the whole MAGA movement. All hat, no cattle. It's all hat, no cattle. And they just, I feel like, exploit their audiences and say what they need to say. They rile people out. But then they still overcharge tickets and crazy, just, it's insane. But I wish these people realized they were being completely used by people that are multi-millionaires beyond, doing crazy deals and like who else knows what's going on behind the scenes i'm not privy to but they don't give a shit about their audiences at all like they're just cash cows to them all right had it or hit it disney adult i would say i don't know because it's like there's so much like starve for joy starvation for joy in this world yeah i would say like you're a freak if you're ever like rude to the staff or you're cutting in line in front of an actual child.

1:18:52Like you're, you're, I've had it with that.

1:18:54Jennifer:What about Lindsey Graham at, at what about, let's talk about Lady Graham at Disney world with Lady G with the bubble wands. Yeah. That was interesting. Does he even have kids? No, he's never been married. Okay. Well, we know why, but I don't know why he's there. And also like what Disney movie did he find whimsy and like correlation to as a child like is it because I feel like most have had these like deeply political undertones Snow White the white supremacy he loves Snow White um because she was white yeah I was like he probably missed the entire point of like a bug's life um yeah I just it's so crazy and the fact that like it was sort of like the Ted Cruz thing where it's like shit's hitting the fan.

1:19:44He's off to Cancun. Like, yeah. Oh man.

1:19:48Jennifer:Oh my God. Yeah. He's just a piece of work. All right. Um, had it or hit it, Tucker Carlson. I mean, I'll say had it for sure. Um, it's like the, this influx of these people now that are agreeing with us finally. Yes. Oh, now I'm going to make sense. And he's like, I'll give him this. He's really intelligent, which scares the shit out of me. I agree with you on that um it scares me because i could just see him like angling all of this switch up right now for like a 2028 run i agree um and i mean he's still got a base so um but like yeah right now it's like him and a few other of those like pun diddy people will say things that we've been saying for years right and they're like oh now i've been i've been bamboozled i've been lied to and I'm going to switch it up like Marjorie Taylor Greene, all this shit.

1:20:41It's like, no, you're all grifters. I agree. You got your pension. You're going to be fine for the rest of your life. Probably, I don't know.

1:20:51Jennifer:Insider trading. Don't forget Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know what? I was pretty impressed because when she first hit the scene, she was talking about Jewish space slavers and I thought, oh my God, this dumb bitch. She was savvy enough to insider trade. I think her net worth is something like 25 million or something. And she hasn't even been in Congress that long. It's 25, 30 million. That kind of shocked me. In like six years. Yeah. And then she gets to retire. Yeah. I bet, I bet it's going to be Tucker Green, 28. Don't put it out there. I mean, I think - I want them to run J.D. Vance because I just think it would be fun to beat the shit out of him verbally every day.

1:21:30Yeah.

1:21:31Jennifer:It's kind of - It's fun to browbeat J.D. Vance. Yeah. You can tell there's probably a part of him that likes it. Yeah. yeah he likes this submissive yeah totally he's totally yeah yeah peter teal is the dom yeah totally he is okay last one had it or hit it the united states of america um i will hit it because this like patriotism in me comes in the most like rare forms random forms like obviously years ago it's like drag ban right now this this backlash of people wanting to be heard in the Tennessee house right now and like you know federally in the midterms I was like something about the south and I think that's why I've remained there is like I want to stay and fight like I I love being in these like liberal spaces of course because I feel like I'm with my people, but I also want to, to be near the people that are like completely, um, unrepresented and disenfranchised and like fight for them.

1:22:31Because I do think that the tide has, is turning. And that is why the Republicans are scared shitless of States like this flipping or getting close to flipping, um, is because they know even their own Republican constituents are pissed at them. And so it's like they are going all in to redraw these maps illegally. Louisiana, it's like their election had already been in process of starting. And now they're like pausing it. And it's just people are pissed. And I'm obviously like worried that it's going to reach this boiling point of like violence. Because when you disenfranchise people, the one equalizer, all the grass prices rising, grocery prices, just not being able to like fucking live the one equalizer between no matter what walk of life you are, it was our right to vote.

1:23:22And when you cut that off at the knees as well, now you've given people a reason to have nothing to lose. Truly.

1:23:31Jennifer:Maren, thank you so much. Thank you for your advocacy and listener viewer. How fabulous is it to know? I told you guys it's bullshit when you see all the likes and all the shit on MAGA. There are more of us, every generation, every color, every state that hate fascism. Thank you for your voice. Thank you for your convictions. Thank you for your fearlessness. And thank you for coming on. I've had it. Oh my gosh. It's an honor. I'm such a fan and you've inspired me to like be honestly just like a bigger bitch. Good. I like it. Bitches against fascism, baby. Exactly. We'll see you next time.

1:24:10Jennifer:I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I've had it with that.

1:24:41Thank you.