593 - Mythbusters Part 2! (Acid Baths, Lethal Pennies, & Elevator Of DEATH)

22:12SlamJar:Clabber. And then the mannequins at the bottom chuck the penny. Bang. Bash. Okay, so this myth is quite well known. Five floors below the top of the Empire State Building, on the 81st floor, there's a ledge that's just covered in pennies. So loads of people do go to the top and try and launch it off. But because of the way all the wind works around the building, they just get dragged back on. They should all go to prison because they're willing to get it. Isn't that mental? Isn't it mental that there's actually a floor covered in pennies of people attempting to throw them off? I think I've been there.

22:43I've seen this. That's weird. Yeah, I didn't throw a penny. It's really weird. No? No. Got a brick, didn't you? A brick. Yeah. For a human. For this myth, they made a penny-firing gun. Oh! and they basically tested what is the maximum the terminal velocity of a penny so if they drop a terminal a penny what's the fastest speed it could ever reach naturally yeah 64.4 miles per hour that would kill you so a penny at 64.4 miles per hour

23:15SlamJar:I don't know if it would well remember the playing card got up to 150 what that's sick no he's are you doing the old advert no I'm just saying no he's actually asking would a car at 64 on the motorway kill you? Would a car at 64 miles per hour kill you, Jack? Yes. They say drop to 20 instead of 30 because you're more likely to survive. You're doubling that speed. Yeah, fair enough. He's theorising. I'm theorising. Sorry, slam jar. So 64.4 miles per hour of a gun, and that's the perfect speed they needed. They first tested it on a block of asphalt and a block of concrete. Is asphalt the shit we were talking about last week when they throw the card in the...

23:58SlamJar:No, that's ballistics gel. Asphalt's like the stuff on the floor. Yeah, kind of like that. Yeah, so what do you think happens when they shoot the concrete and the asphalt with a penny going 64.4 mAh? I don't think anything happens. I think, if anything, the penny gets a bit scratched up. That's about it. Concrete? No. It ain't doing concrete. You're right. Yeah? The penny couldn't penetrate the surface, but it did leave a bit of an imprint where it hit. Okay. So you could tell where it hit. Demon's skull. Yeah. Then they shoot the penny at the cranium of a ballistics dummy. So it's a skull covered in that ballistics gel to simulate how thick the skin is.

24:39Yeah. What are your predictions on that one?

24:41SlamJar:It broke the skin, but it did not kill the man. You've just shook your head at me. I don't know if you knew you were doing that, but you did. I think it went through. What killed the skull? The penny. last episode I kept nodding and agreeing with Alfie and you were going stop doing that I don't want nodding and agreeing because that's doing here we go for Britsio you just did one you just did one I went like that didn't I accidentally the penny broke the surface of the gel but bounced off the skull you got it exact and I didn't show you that you've just got a real life on the moment correct I'm on form today I'm on form I'm on form last week not so much awful awful awful Start expectations low.

25:23Yeah.

25:23SlamJar:And then impress in the second one. So that's a penny going at max speed. They took this penny one step further at this speed. They were so sure that they agreed to try and catch the penny in their hand. Oh, that will sting. 64 miles per hour. What do you think happened with that? It really hurt the hand. Just hurt the hand a little bit. Oh, a little bit. Didn't cut or bruise the skin at all. How did it go through that gel then? Yeah, that gel does not seem like it. That gel's crap. Yeah. I'm thinking that for some of these but also I guess it's thinner there and also I guess it depends if the penny the issue is the penny moves in the air I guess if the penny goes down like thin side on its edge that's probably going to hurt more than slap slap's not going to cut is it theory no not yet he was so confident he let Jamie shoot him in the arse as well in the episode it's quite funny he just goes shoot me he's got his jeans on and he shoots me in the arse looks like a bit of dog's arse did it hurt Yeah, he was going, that did hurt.

26:21But then to put the myth to bed, so before we slam it...

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27:30Get those steps in. Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic-ish, Sierra's got it. They decided to see how fast they could make the penny travel to actually be able to kill someone. So a lot of the time on Mythbusters, even if they bust that the original one isn't true, they'll go, but how could we make it true? So this time they create a metal block that he puts on the end of a sniper rifle with the penny inside that block with like a bit for the penny to shoot out of and they put a blank in the gun to shoot it. So the blank, the air of the blank shoots the penny out at the same speed that a bullet would go.

28:09So that shoots it at three times the speed of sound. The penny's moving at this, which is roughly the same as the bullet itself. The penny for his thoughts. Bullets are fast. So I've got the hot tape on here. Yeah. What's your prediction on the bullet fired penny? Yeah, fuck it. Could kill a man. The penny, weighing only two and a half grams, still doesn't have enough mass even at bullet firing speeds to cause any real damage. I'm learning something. The penny bent in half.

28:36SlamJar:Wow. Hit the floor and just bent. What before it'd kill someone? Yeah. They're just not. It's the same as the playing card one from last episode. Spoiler. because there's no weight to it and there's nothing solid enough it just can't do anything. So a penny dropped off the Eiffel Tower cannot kill a man. Yeah, but maybe the Empire State Building. Yeah, it's taller. Different building. Different building, sexist. What was the sexist bit? I went right. He just went couldn't kill a man, could kill a woman. Weaker. No, no. Disagree. Weaker skull. He's theorising. Let him theorise. Theorising, not sexist.

29:12SlamJar:I'm thinking about it. Okay, myth Slams Is yawning contagious? Could not kill a trans person Strong

29:26Theorising

29:27SlamJar:Theorising Is yawning contagious?

29:34Oh

29:35SlamJar:You started to go No, no, I was just mimicking Mimicking Is that you or me? Stop yawning This is a real one This is a real one there'll be a lot of people listening to us now and they'll start yawning and they'll be having a shit I'll stop doing it that's a fucking big and I wasn't even doing it for real I've choked you've just swallowed a yawn you've just swallowed your yawn there did you know I didn't know this before I was watching this episode we don't know what yawning is but we don't know no one knows we don't know why we do it you're yawning again yeah I actually did get a yawn in a big one we don't really know why we do it they I shouldn't have mentioned yawning.

30:15So we don't really know why humans even yawn. Yeah, dogs do it though. They have theories that it wakes your body up, brings more oxygen into your bloodstream, keeps your lung tissue lubricated and regulates your brain temperature. Most of them have been debunked, except the brain temperature one. Their yawns seem more linked to your brain than they do your lungs and your body.

30:36SlamJar:I thought it was because... I thought it was, what was it now? I've read up on this. Oh my God. And I thought it was, yeah, I thought it was getting oxygen into your body. So it does do that, but there's no benefit to doing it. You don't need it. You don't need, you're not sat there going, I better yawn because I need this oxygen. No, but when you have a big influx in oxygen, it makes your brain more alert. So that's, yeah, that's the brain temperature thing. So that's a theory around that. There was a test that they did, which was, so this isn't about it being contagious, but there was a test they did that I was reading yesterday.

31:11This isn't on Mythbusters, but... You're making me go... Right. Everyone just fucking stop now.

31:16SlamJar:No, I can't stop now. I can't stop. This is insane. I'm having an existential crisis. I don't need to go through the test, do I? We've just tested it ourselves. I've never thought about what a yorn is. One of the things I read yesterday was that there was a test that was done where they showed people pictures of snakes and frogs and you're meant to obviously have more of a reaction to the snakes, be alert, ready to protect. And they did it both before and after yawning. and people were way more alert after yawning with the snake so yawning does like literally make you more like oh because i've got this little thing that i do right where um you know everyone say everyone's set off now you know once in a blue moon right when we leave the studio whatever and i'm driving back to norwich right every once in a blue moon i'll be like too tired right and i shouldn't it's not safe to drive right i'll almost like if i'm like really drift enough i'll almost like purposely like crash my car what i never want to get in your car again you're not getting insured again what have you just said wait on the motorway i thought you were gonna sound purposely yawn to wake myself up i thought you were going no no no that's not a little thing you do what have you just said in the car no i'm not actually crashing it i'll be on the motorway and if a car's like i'll go like oh i could just veer out of this lane quickly, right?

32:33SlamJar:And then I'll go like that, right? And it will spike my adrenaline. I am never getting in your car again. Oh my word. You nutjob. That is insane. That is insane. Why have you just admitted to that? Just have a coffee. That is actually insane. No, just give me a little adrenaline boost. No, that's mental. Yeah, that is an adrenaline boost, nearly dying. I'm not doing it to other cars. I'm doing it to like the side. the island. Has Fee ever been in the car asleep when you've done this? Say it for the audio listeners. Every time. I've been in the car. He's been in the car, yeah. I'll be there. I'm getting a train now.

33:11SlamJar:I need to wake up, so I'll go, right, let's go into the middle island. And then I'm awake and I'm good to go again. So you're forcing a potential crash in the hopes that it will wake you up. In a way. Just yawn. God, I used to have this awful thing I used to do when I was younger where did you ever do it where like you'd close your eyes did you ever do that what when you're driving yeah down the country roads yeah mental just really late I'm not getting in a car it's like an OCD thing yes yeah it is and see how far you can go yeah I didn't but it's like a compulsion like I couldn't yeah it's so weird I'm never getting in a car yeah it just reminded me of that like 10 years ago I did that yeah mad innit you're both gonna get arrested no no that's alright it's 10 years ago you said years ago I don't really do my thing I was like I was 18 don't really do my thing so yawning is involuntary the mouth opens the jaw drops and allows in as much air as possible as the lung fills to capacity stomach muscles contract and a diaphragm is pushed down the heart beats up to 30 faster whilst yawning that's it and when the lungs are full excess air is expelled but we don't know why i have one now i want one now you're on here you go that was good actually it's such a nice feeling that's so close the noise as well when you that's a good way to wake up.

34:26When you're driving Jack, rather than trying to crash, do a yawn but don't just yawn silently. Do a big noise because that's a wake up. I'll do a big noise on my end. That's such a lovely feeling. I've never thought about what yawn is. I don't need to ask the first question. Do you think it's possible? You both think yawning is contagious.

34:42SlamJar:Yawning million percent contagious and I would also say you can do it in a species so dogs can set humans off, humans can set dogs off. How would you test it? I would yawn in the face of my dog and see if it does it back. Cool. and my dog is that what you'd do my dog and my dog okay cool so for this because they couldn't just do that and go there we go they built a room rigged with spying devices which is a two-way mirror and a hidden camera and they put out an ad looking looking for extras for myth busters but they didn't say why they needed the extras they put 10 extras in a room for a control test always need a control test in these tests remember to compare what's a control test then a test to see what's the normal amount.

35:22So they'll put 10 people in a room, watch them for 10 minutes with no yawning, do any of them yawn within that 10 minutes.

35:30SlamJar:Okay. Second time, they give nothing to read and they're not even allowed to talk to each other. It's 10 minutes of nothing. How many yawns do you think they happened in that 10 minutes of nothing? 10 people? 10 people. Six yawns. What was the time? 10 minutes. I've gone too high there, I think four. No. Wait, I don't get it. so they're they're doing nothing in the room they're doing nothing but they're not yawning to make them yawn or anything they're just they're just put them in a room do they know they don't know why they're there no zero yawns zero yawns zero yawns then they gave the extras a clipboard each with a piece of paper which just had tax laws printed on it and they just had to read through that how many yawns we're fucked now we're actually I know it's bad we're so sorry I should have put this one at the end of the episode I'm not even tired I know we're so sorry it's mental oh my god we're fucked that's our one rule We do not yawn on the pod.

36:18What's quite funny is when I was doing the research for this one, I was yawning so much. It was so annoying.

36:24SlamJar:It must be then. Right. So you've got the clipboard. Clipboard, they're reading that. How many yawns do you think when they're reading through tax documents? Well, hang on. So why wasn't the test just put two actors in there who have to yawn every two minutes and then see how the other ones yawn? Yeah, we'll get to that. Oh, right, okay. Control test first. I'm going to go zero with the tax documents. I'm going to say one yawn. They got a couple. It's inconclusive, but that's just people yawning, but it didn't seem to catch like you'd expect so then they added a yawning seed yeah so this is they put someone in the room to keep yawning to see if it made others yawn didn't work but they didn't think it was they said it was inconclusive not enough of a test only 10 people not enough time either they said so they went to a flea market car boot sale and they set up a truck with three isolated rooms inside it and they'd sit people on their own in each room for 10 minutes with nothing to do.

37:17Every person that went into room one and two, when they were first guided into the room, the person guiding them in would yawn at them as they go into the room. Number three, no one would yawn. So then they could get an idea of the comparison between yawn and no yawn. This time they tested 50 people. Rooms one and two are the yawners. How many people in rooms one and two do you think yawned back within the 10 minutes? 12. Percentage. 25%. I think higher, like 40. 29%. Good guess, Jack. However, room three. Call me yawn French. Room three, no yawn. What percentage? Zero. 6%. 25%. What? Weirdly, small difference on MythBus as they went, that's enough of a difference for us to say myth.

38:08Well, what do you say? Why did the 25 % yawn?

38:12SlamJar:29 and 25 is not big of a difference. No, I agree. but they yawned at no yawn. So in the episode, they go, that's enough for us to say, which I did think was a bit weird. So this is the only one out of all of them I've then gone to do my own research because I've been a bit like, I wouldn't count that. Yeah. 29 to 25 % is too close. But what are you, so this is myth confirmed on the episodes. They go, confirmed. Yeah. What's your thing? I'm going to say myth, no, theory, theory, what do we say? We say theory slammed. You say slammed. Theory.

38:47It would be nice to rhyme with slammed, wouldn't it? Yammed. Theory. Yes, ma 'am. Theory.

38:57SlamJar:Damn. Good theory. That. I mean, confirmed doesn't... The word confirmed doesn't work with myth busters, does it? So you could just say ticked or... Theory. Bam. Theory bam. Bam or bammed? Bammed. bam theory slammed and bam so bam is confirmed slammed is busted okay so on this one is terrible really not great as i said though i did a bit of my own research on this yawning is a form of echo phenomena which is the automatic involuntary repetition of another person's sounds words or movements like echolalia which is repeating words and echopraxia which is repeating actions this isn't done on purpose but it's a pathological repetition of an external stimulus so if you do something you know when like sometimes you say something and i'll just repeat it yeah that's just me doing this echo phenomena thing right and yawning is that exact thing there's no real reason we just mirror each other sometimes and it's just stuck in the human psyche to do it however there's also a tendency that it's linked to empathy so the more empathetic someone is the more likely they are to yawn.

40:08I was going to say this. And you're also more likely to yawn more around people you know. Right. And that you have an emotional connection to. So with their test... And look at us. With their test, they're sticking strangers in a room together and stuff. They do yawn a little bit, but if they did it with a huge group of friends instead, you're more likely... And that's also why dogs can do it. Because you've got a connection to the dog. But some animals do it and some animals just don't

40:35SlamJar:do it at all. You know when footballers go abroad and they put on that weird accent when they get interviewed yeah they're doing echo phenomena that's an empathy thing because i do it when i go abroad and it's cringe what do you do yeah you do hello my friend yeah i sometimes speak in like i still speak english obviously i can't speak another language but i put on their little twang yes yeah you did it you did it the other day when we were there yeah someone said something and he went to say okay and instead and he was just going okay i mean okay please it was well weird what i hate that stop doing that please please me please my friend what are you doing i'm empathetic do you think they'll understand you more i was actually saying this to sunny i don't think they will because i'm just speaking in english they're smart enough right that they can speak their language and also a bit of english i'm complicating it because i should just be speaking queen's english right that's probably how they've learned the language.

41:29SlamJar:Yeah. But instead, I'm doing their weird language. Not that they're weird, but like, I'm doing their... You're doing English with their accent. Their accent with their, yeah. What if they came to London and went, all right, Jack, please, mate. Saying that, he would understand it. He would understand it. Yeah. But I go, I do it all in normal English, and then right at the end, I do a little twang for them. No, because it would be more mood men. or like Geordie's or Scouts what do you mean so if if you go to Newcastle you spend the day with really cool road men would you be like yeah my guy like my guy but you know if I do a bit when I'm around a sunny I pick up their really you know the other thing though is if they come to London it wouldn't be if they start going alright governor it would be if they speak Spanish here they'd start going like uno cerveza port yeah that is what it would be Like, you know, like, their grassy arse.

42:25Yeah. And you'd be going, I can speak Spanish. Yeah. It's fine.

42:28SlamJar:But I think because I think it's an empathetic thing in terms of, like, I feel like I should at least be speaking their language. So your version of that is doing the accent. So instead of going, like, okay, I don't know, like, some Spanish sentence or whatever. Imagine that was Spanish. Instead, I'm going, like, can I have a bottle of water, please? French. Okay. I don't know what I've said there. Do you think as well it's like a fitting in thing? Yeah. You want to fit in with that group. I think I have that. Yeah. I did a presenting thing years ago and spoke a bit like a roadman, and I can't watch it.

43:06What brand? It's with, I can't remember. This was years ago. But I just remember I've watched it back, and I'm speaking not like me at all. I've done it. And it's recorded. Oh. I want to see it. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it.

43:22SlamJar:I've done it. I'm just trying to think. I just want people to like me. No, I've just, I've been around people when they're speaking in a certain way. And you just copy it. Yeah. I think like, I think that's kind of what you see in like the sidemen and stuff like that though. What doing voices? Oh, we've spoken about this before, haven't we? Yeah, yeah. But they don't all say law it, do they? No. But they do all say law it. Is that slang? It's just a law it, isn't it? Yeah, I know. But it's that like picking up slang and the only way to say that slang. because I can go allow it. I have to go allow it.

43:55I'd say, can you please allow that, sir? Yeah. All right, let's do a number one. So interesting. So yawning is contagious. Yeah. This is an exciting one. You ready? Yeah. Can you catch a bullet in your teeth?

44:11SlamJar:I can't. Mine would shatter. So this is an extremely well-known magic trick. Yeah. The trick's been performed for over 200 years. the first ever real bullet catch was performed by Carl Skeens in 1980 for a TV show that's incredible but I believe no wait I think he did it with like a metal thing in his mouth that he just held like that and then this person shot it into that so he didn't catch it with his teeth that's quite a risk that isn't it yeah if the bullet goes one centimetre above you've got no lip you've got one anyway so you've got nothing to lose you should have a go I might as well do it yeah so it's been done by loads of modern magicians David Blaine did it Yeah But the tricks also killed a few magicians Yeah I've heard about that Madame Dolinsky in 1820 died Because the rifle was Madame what?

44:56Madame Dolinsky

44:58SlamJar:Isn't that the Isn't that the gypsy lady from Holes? I don't know Have you seen Holes? No Stanley Yelnack No I don't know what you just said Stanley Yelnacks I don't know what any of that is You've seen Holes haven't you? Digging up them holes Digging you're gonna feel like that because it's not alright it's a song it's in Hull yeah yeah yeah yeah years ago oh come on you have to take the pig up the mountain to see Madame Ladinsky or whatever oh I don't know oh Madame Zabroni that's better it was both madams I was just any listener to this pod is gonna know the film Hulls and then some obscure mythical characters there will be one out there you know what I was on about they're going you're getting it wrong Jack it's this so 1820 she died when the rifle wasn't loaded with a blank and chungling su in 1918 when a real bullet was fired from a hidden chamber instead of the blank so the trick obviously they use blanks pocket in their mouth and then suddenly show it but it's i think there's been like six deaths maybe from doing it stop doing it so firstly doing do you think it is possible to catch a bullet in your teeth so we're not saying you're not allowed to use the mechanism that guy used i've never been more confident of anything in my life this is not possible because if you think about it you know when they got the the cup in the mouth it's hitting the back of the mouth right well it's hitting the back of the cup that's what's stopping it in order to be able to stop the bullet with your teeth you've got a bite down at that exact second so even if you've got the timing perfectly right that's impossible and also it's gonna be a bullet is gonna be hot yeah but did not just fire through your teeth yeah it would fucking get it like a bowling ball through some pins, mate.

46:44SlamJar:Not possible. Okay, so how would you test it? I would get some... How do you test this one? A contraption resembling that stimulates the head. Stimulates? What's the word? Simulates. Simulates a head. That simulates a head and it with some big teeth on there and yeah, you just have to do it that way. How would you make it go down at the same time? Mini golf! What? Use a mini golf clown. let's do it on that is that what we're going for something to replicate the tooth basically yeah but how would you get it to shut at the right time you could probably time it because you could just you could shoot that gun 10 times slow-mo camera see how long it takes to hit the wall have a contraption there that closes that is a computer that closes at that exact time computers yeah computers innit CV's nodding so first they created a teeth strength test they used acrylic dentures that were gripped shut using air pressure holding a bullet a weighted pendulum swung down and hit the bullet to create the same amount of force as if it was shot by a gun so they put the bullet in the teeth made it grip as much so they got one of the guys to do a grip test on a thing and then they found out how much pressure he could do so they did that with these fake dentures right put the bullet in the teeth already and then force that bullet to be hit by a pendulum to see if it would shoot it to the back of the mouth.

48:14That was the first thing they did. What do you think happened when that hit? It shattered the teeth.

48:21SlamJar:It will shatter the teeth every time. Yeah? Yeah, I don't think it stays there. Teeth aren't strong enough. The front teeth were completely smashed out. Yeah. Then they put the bullet in the back teeth hung on the side there instead. Yeah. What do you think happened with those ones? Well, even if those could sustain the pressure, you can't catch a fucking bullet in your back teeth can you it's got to get through your mouth first it could go that way yeah you could yeah see you could it also shattered them i think it did it the bullet didn't move at all i think it just stayed in the dentures i think it's so strong back there do you reckon you could bite for your finger you isn't it like the only thing stopping us biting up for our own finger is mental yeah we can't be really easy yeah and obviously the pain.

49:09You can bite your own tongue off, can't you? But your brain wouldn't let you do it. What are you thinking about? Your jaws are so strong. You're capable of biting something.

49:19SlamJar:Well, I could bite through my finger. Yeah. Not with that one. Not with them. Back ones. Yeah. Could I? Yeah. Do it. Imagine that. He just bit his finger off on the phone. We'd be like, oh, his brain doesn't stop it. What? Our teeth are crazy strong. Yeah, yours are. Yeah, well, not anymore. Not anymore, yeah. We've only got half of them left. okay we're learning today we're learning science so they when it didn't move yeah they didn't think that was right they were like that's a bit weird so what they thought they'd test is use a pig's jaw and teeth because pigs are stronger than humans with their jaw and teeth that bit of the show that you're glad you don't have to watch now pretty gross they got a pig's head and the guy had to cut the jaw out and then use that jaw to create do you see it on the show yeah you're watching it The pig's dead?

50:03SlamJar:Yeah. Yeah. I'm not using the alive gig like you did. Are you coming back in after? No, so I got like a head from like a butcher's and then cut everything out, got rid of all the head bit and just kept the whole like long jaw bit. Right. And then they put like a metal pole through it to create the same rig but with the pig's jaw. That's nasty. Yeah, it wasn't amazing. You've been hanging out recently. Raven. What do you think happened? What do you think happened with the pig's jaw? He's shattered. Shattered. Completely ripped through the teeth again. This episode is brought to you by PayPal. You know how a mom's bag has everything?

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51:28Apply in the wallet app on your iPhone today. Subject to credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch. Terms and more at AppleCard.com. From athletic stuff, like a full-court pickup game, swish, to athletic-ish stuff, like a half-mile stroll. Get those steps in! Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic-ish, Sierra's got it. So just because it's possible to grip the bullet hard enough doesn't mean your mouth could shut quick enough. So that's one part of the test. It's a long one, isn't it?

52:03Not complaining. The dentures managed it, but the pig's teeth didn't. But then they thought, well, now we need to find if it's even possible to quickly catch it. So then they did their jaw shutting speed. So they got a gun with a blank on one side of a bulletproof glass and then they got the people on the other side, slow motion. They shot the gun and then just tested how quickly they could shut there to see what the time between gunshot and mouth jaw shut is. And the best they got was nine milliseconds. Which is decent. Yeah, that's not bad, actually. So timing-wise...

52:35SlamJar:It's like that guy on TikTok. You seen that guy who's got the pizza shop? No. You can order whatever you want from the pizza shop and then you press the button. You get it bang on a minute. Oh, wow. In 10 seconds, you get the meal free. Everyone's out by a few milliseconds. Maybe you skipped it on... You can't actually hit it. No, you can. I've seen someone do it. Oh. Does it go off? Someone at work. Nuts, mate. Love to try that. Yeah. brilliant idea great good pr for the pizza firm yeah charity work yeah well spawn business yeah not the same thing at all actually timing wise it means it is technically possible in but it would be crazy lucky because it's not just doing it fast enough it's doing it fast enough at the exact right moment yeah so they basically wanted to test like is it possible to catch anything like that so they did a little paintball test tried to catch paintball pellets not no way of being fast enough next part of the experiment was pretty cool though they created a rig that had a gun on one side and a metal jaw on the other and they timed how long the bullet takes which is exactly what you said to get from one side to the other i told you i'm gonna do well today yeah and then they basically made using computers set it up so the jaw shut at the exact point that the bullet got to the jaw yeah after firing loads of bullets and adjusting the timing of the jaws shutting by milliseconds difference.

53:49They could never, ever get the jaw to catch the bullet. In some cases, the bullet actually just got fully squashed and exploded because it's so hot and moving so fast that it just fucked the bullet up because the jaw was metal.

53:59SlamJar:Oh, right. A human jaw would have just got completely fucked. Yeah, so they're not actually testing it properly. And that's on them. Whereas here, we theorise. Theory. Smash. Slammed. Slammed. Slammed. How the fuck have you? You're not called Smash Jar, are you? No, sorry. You're not Smash-wise, Gandhi. Sorry, Stevie, I messed up. Do it again. Theory. Slammed. The elevator of death. Okay. You don't like this, do you? No, it's going to put me on edge. Yeah. What if an elevator you're riding suddenly plummets? Let's not do this one. Skip it. It's just a pod, isn't it? Can you save yourself by jumping at the very last second?

54:38SlamJar:You could use this button and change the elevator to a hot air balloon. No, I'm terrified of hot air balloons. I'll never go in one, though, will I? No. so you're fine okay every time I say elevator imagine I'm saying hot air balloon or just say it so if if the thing you're in suddenly plummets can you save yourself by jumping at the very last second yeah right so it's the hot air balloon's going down like that do you think it's possible we're in the basket and just before it smashes into the ground below we just do a little jump do we just land I think you smash the top of the elevator what's that balloon yeah but there's a top to this one I think you just smash into the top no what?

55:17You do a jump at the last second it's plummeting. I think you just end up hitting the ceiling.

55:23SlamJar:No, if you do a little jump keep your head down. No, I'm not saying you can't do this little jump. I'm saying you'll do a little jump and it will go and I think it will just take you up. Do you think the elevator, sorry the balloon is just going to crumble on top of you like that? No, but it was this is what I'm seeing, right? Sorry for the audio listeners. lift going down lift going down lift going down lift going down jump lift still going down yeah all right but i don't know i'm theorized that's like that theory of all the chickens in a in a truck isn't it so so right so so you've got a truck say it weighs two ton yeah you've got 50 chickens right say they weigh i don't know a temp of a ton right you put them in the truck and they're all sat down right that truck now weighs 2.1 tons yeah you felt you with me were you yeah yeah yeah if they all fly and the truck's moving does that truck still weigh 2.1 tons or or does it weigh two tons two tons yeah doesn't it yeah but the energy's still in there it's still pushing so it still weighs 2.1 it'll still weigh two yeah if we all jumped on a train at the same time we're still within the train this table weighs two tons the mic's off it now that can't work but movement is what changes it no it's because it's I think it's because it's confined the weight is in there yeah you're so right this room right if you just made a box out of this room and I jumped I'm still inside it it's still weight it's still weight this is fucking cool you know how you can test that next time you stand on a scale pick up something heavy look at the weight chuck it up in the air quickly look right down and catch it No, just not weighing the room No, because that doesn't work Would that change?

57:15SlamJar:No, it wouldn't It wouldn't, no Yeah, it would change If the whole floor was the weight Yes It would I'm going to have to find out if Mythbusters have tested anything like that So what are we doing then? Elevate a plummeting Do you think that's possible? No, no, no, no I don't think it's possible I think maybe it does in the hot air balloon one Yeah, but that's not the question As it's coming, right you're flying down and then you jump. Yeah. You jump and you roll on the grass. Okay. You back yourself so much. I can actually give you an answer to that one. I can give you an answer to that one towards the end of this one.

57:50So we'll go back to it. How would you test this one? Elevator. Give it a go. With a pig. I think you've got to test. What are you up against a pig? You were doing so well. Wait, wait, wait. How do you get the pig to jump?

58:06SlamJar:That's it. You can't. You can put a pig in a hot air balloon but you can't make it jump. Famous saying. Beautiful saying. If I'm doing this experiment, I'm testing it out. What I'm doing is I'm testing how quick, I'm doing like two tests. One of them is how timed you can jump. I want to do a test on how a human can time their jump to the nearest whatever and get that bit right. and then I'm going to test it by... Then you need to test... I'm getting there, aren't I? Yep. Can't you just do it with a mannequin and just as it goes to hit the floor, the computer releases a little jump. You're relying on computers today.

58:58Maybe. I think maybe you test the jump thing and then you test... you like replicate it by maybe you do throw something i don't know i don't know so are you both saying impossible but you're saying possible in hot air balloon yeah okay so before they even started their test they spoke to a fellow called mr appell who'd worked with elevators for over 30 years he predicted if you're in an elevator you're traveling at the same speed as the elevator so jumping wouldn't help at all he said it actually try and lay down if he was ever in that situation because that would minimize the injury to the body they found an eight-story high My derelict hotel that was scheduled for demolition had a 92 foot drop.

59:37So I mean, watching this show is quite exciting. You get to watch all these things like fully crash and everything. Adam had the task of working out how to lift and drop the elevator. He disabled the safety brake and disconnected the original cables and attached it back with a movie special effects, quick release. So he lifted it all the way up and then basically just pressed it so the elevator could just fall the whole thing. Jamie had to figure out how to get their crash dummy buster to jump at the perfect time. and they also had to replicate a human jump, which is what you were saying, using a car spring inside overlapping tubes.

1:00:08They basically made the dummy jump at similar velocity to their own real jump. So they did test their own jump. But you said computers. But you weren't talking about the bloody car spring. It's still a computer to make it jump, though. They have to press a button. And you have. And you have. Give me the match ball. Not me, mate. You said they had to compare it to human jumps. That's exactly what they did. That's obvious. That's child's play. That's receptionship. The elevator was pulled to the top of the 92-foot drop. Adam pulled the quick release. Lift went flying down. Using slow motion cameras, 55 miles per hour, the lift hit on its way down.

1:00:41The slow motion camera showed that the dummy managed to jump at the exact point, thanks to the computer. He jumped up at two miles per hour. And he hit the roof. Okay, now I'm in high school. However, obviously, he then comes back down, meaning he still hit the floor at how fast? 53. 53 miles per hour. The dummy was absolutely ripped to shreds. How many GCSEs? Way less sweat.

1:01:09SlamJar:Are you on this side of the table? Honestly, that was dry as a flipping bone. So to answer Jack's question on the... You've talked about that. Hajj just got it a bit sweaty. That's fine. Can you now, Jack, answer your own hot air balloon question based on that? You would fly down in the hot air balloon at 63 miles an hour. Why are you just making up speeds? You would jump at 1.5 miles an hour. Oh my god. Two again. You're jumping out, so you're not confined by the thing. Hang on, I'm just getting there. You would survive. How? You need to be able to jump at close to opposite speed that you're falling.

1:01:53SlamJar:If the fall of the balloon was less than the balloon itself. Why? What? It is. Confused them. Yeah. And then they might give you the point. Yeah. You get the point. Thank you. Nice. It worked. So, elevator of death. Myth. Slammed. Have you ever heard the little saying? It's like a bull in a china shop. Yes. I love that saying. Brilliant. Brilliant. I actually made up a joke once based on that. Go on. And I said, I'm so cautious. I'm like a Chinaman in a bull shop.

1:02:29Why would they be cautious? Don't want to get hit by a bull. Yeah. Because a bull in a China shop. In a bull shop. Because he'd be like treading carefully so as not to upset the bulls. Yeah, it's the opposite, isn't it? Because a bull in a China shop is quite hazard. Ah. You're right. He has bit through his tongue. He can't do it. What did you do?

1:02:52SlamJar:My teeth just slammed shut. That's weird. You're trying to catch a bullet. That was really sad. Them things. Them fucking things. What things? Nothing. What things? Just causing you a lot of issues. Look, you're on the same team. What? The one issue? You're on about the comments? No. Here you are. I'm saying they always... Why are they just randomly doing... Like, that shouldn't be happening, should it? My jaw just went like that. Dickhead. What was I saying? China Minute Bush. Will a ball destroy... Not worth it, was it at all? Will a bull destroy a china shop? Do you think it's possible? Yeah, obviously.

1:03:26SlamJar:They do it in jackass. I've seen it with my own two eyes. Why would it destroy a china shop? Would it not just stand there? No. Well, what are you thinking? Well, first of all, I know a lot about this topic. Okay. Bulls aren't actually attracted to the colour red. Wow. Yeah, they're red-green colourblind. It's actually the movement of the flag that they're attracted to. So am I. Little bull. Little bull. no you just Stevie told me that one on the way up but I said like I was like I've got two myths would you prefer bull in a china shop or bull red if you put bull in a china shop how is it not smashing up the plates it would just chill that's what I can tell you why would it just chill Alfie if you put it in there and left it in there for a week you're going to come back and your stuff's going to be yeah a week but the whole phrase is like if a bull runs through a china shop it's going to smash everything oh if it runs through it will how would it not I think if you just put it in there it's just going to stand there.

1:04:20Why would it start smashing stuff up? It might get scared. So you're saying, yeah, you're saying no. I'm saying potentially.

1:04:26SlamJar:Yeah, exactly. Great. Sit on the fence. Yeah. Okay, how would you test it? I'd put a bull in the china shop. Put it full with cheap china. Yeah. Put the bull in there. See what happens. See what happens. That's not going to hurt anyone. You're doing the same? It's going to hurt the bull actually. Okay, so for this one, they started by making tenge. You and your pig then. You and your fucking pigs. pig at a china shop yeah so this one they did they made 10 shelves from foam board because they wanted to make sure the test itself was safe for the bulls they don't want the bull to hurt itself on the wood wooden shelves they made nice foam ones and then they went to a ranch and they put all the shelves in a bullpen and put and stacked it with all the china yeah crockery yeah so that's so ethical taking it to the bull in the bullpen they did five rows two rows of five like that of um shelves so there was room to run around the outside and there was an aisle down the middle kind of like in a shop and then there's also you could run between all of these as well right they're quite closely packed but the bull could fit in between each one if it wanted to what are your predictions on what happened i think the ball fucked some shit up stevie i think it accidentally knocks over a few bits but i like to think that the ball just walks around they started by letting one bull loose in there.

1:05:44Oh, yeah, that's the phrase. It's not bulls in a china shop. No, I'll tell you why they started with one. Because the first one went in there. He actually seemed to kind of browse. He was looking around at all of it, and he was just moving in between, like weaving in and out as well, not even trying to... So he was like walking through them like there were aisles in a shop. And they thought, this bull doesn't want to do anything. Let's put two in there to play around. The bulls start charging and chasing each other, but fully weave in and out of the shelves. Never touch a shelf, even when playing and chasing each other.

1:06:13And they seem quite like ferocious messing around. I can't believe that. Three balls, same story. They put four balls in there. There's not even that much room to move around in there now. They properly run about and play with each other. They never touch the shelves and there's not a lot of space left in there, but they're so nimble and they just properly avoid them all. Out of the 10 shelves in the whole experiment, one of them was knocked over completely accidentally. It didn't like try and hit it. its bum like brushed it as it passed through and it just tipped it over shout out bulls and you know what sorry bulls yeah because you've been painted by being these clumsy aggressive things yeah you're very mindful of china very mindful of china the material not the place they're only aggressive if they feel threatened and like like we well not us but like matadors and stuff do that to them can we stop fucking with the bull we should stop why is that allowed it just seems

1:07:09SlamJar:It's mental that's allowed. It's mental as well, isn't it? That they, like, if you actually just put a bull versus a man, the bull's going to fuck the man up. Yeah. But they think they're being strong or cool. I don't get it. I know it's a cultural thing. But still it's fucking stupid. Cultural things can be stupid. Yeah. It's one step down from these wankers that go in, I don't know, South Africa or somewhere and shoot lions with these high-ferocity fucking guns. Well, they kill the bulls at the end, don't they? They're twat. Leave him alone. But yeah, watching it, and it was quite cool to watch.

1:07:43Obviously, you'll have to go and try and find it on YouTube or something. But watching all the bulls run around, they look so playful and friendly with each other. It's weird, because it's kind of ingrained in us to think that's aggressive. They look like they're really going for it, and they're just completely dodging all of the china. That's pretty cool. So they're proper in and out, weaving through the aisles. And it's really cool to watch.

1:08:03SlamJar:You should take them to steal a diamond. Yeah. lasers they'd smash it would they well on that the other one i did i haven't written any of it down but they did the the do balls get angry at red thing and as jack said they can't even see the color red because they're getting angry at being agitated yeah it's the movement of the thing and stuff it's like making them think something could attack them or whatever but in that one they were so sure that one of the guys dressed up in a full red suit and stood in the bullpen and it just didn't go near and they ignored him yeah because the way they tested it is that they, because when they put mannequins in there, they put a mannequin in there in red and a mannequin in blue and it attacked the blue one first, then attacked the red one because they think they're in danger if they see a human shape because it's ingrained in them to be scared of us.

1:08:52But then, yeah, when they did the one with the red, they got other people to just, in no colour at all, just to like move around and it would go more towards the people who were moving than the guy in full red. Theory.

1:09:04SlamJar:Slammed. Is that it? I've got time for one more. Give me one more Because I remember last week In the outro You said there was going to be A Breaking Bad one I've been kind of trying to work out What that could be Mythbusters did a Breaking Bad special Can you put a pizza on a roof? Why would that be a myth? Done Okay So I think it was quite soon After Breaking Bad He insults me When I'm just I'm not saying that's my answer I'm just getting there Yeah like you're experimenting With your mind Well the thing is When people normally experiment With their mind They experiment in their mind Yeah but this is a podcast And then say stuff But for the rest of the episode, I'll experiment in my mind.

1:09:39Yeah, nice. Tell a joke in your mind. No, no. You think it in your... That's the racist one. The fact you're laughing. I know, I've got dark sense humour. You think something in your mind, your brain goes, don't say that, then say the good thing. Can you put a peach on a roof, Jack?

1:10:00He's not, he's not, he's not. That's harsh, actually. So the reason they did this like crossover special is because Vince Gilligan, the creator of Breaking Bad, I don't know how many series had been out at this point because the two theories they did are both from season one. Okay. And they like, Aaron Paul's in the episode as well, so he looks young. So Vince Gilligan and Aaron Paul go to meet the Mythbusters because he was, Vince Gilligan, the creator, was asked what show he'd love to do a crossover with and he said Mythbusters. And it was because Walt and Jesse always get into trouble in the show, obviously, but they normally always use science to get out of these.

1:10:31Science, bitch. Yeah, to get out of these scenarios. So they'd get people people write in or like complain online being like, that's not possible. So they were like, let's show that it is possible. Okay.

1:10:45SlamJar:So, Oh, maybe when the Gus gets half his face blown off. That's a spoiler. Series one. If you haven't watched it, it's been out 12, 13, 14 years. Series one. Yeah. Both of these are from series one. I've only got one of them written down. The one I haven't done is in series one, there's a moment where Walt gets stuck in a room with loads of drug dealers and he throws something at the ground and it basically explodes everything. 2K? Yeah. Yeah, it just, that scene's cool. They test, apparently the stuff that he used is so like dangerous. They had to get a guy to specially make it for him. The guy who made it for him called Jesse.

1:11:22How weird is that? Well weird. They had to go to like a thing. They do it. Nothing happens. It blows up, but nowhere near what they think. Right. It's just not, and you can't throw it at the ground either. What is the drug there, exploding? I can't remember what it is. it looks like crystal meth because that's how he gets it into the room. He's like, oh, you think this is that? But it's just a chemical thing. It just doesn't work. It didn't work at all. This one, the one I've got is, can hydrofluoric acid melt through a crime scene? So you may remember in season one, Walt and Jesse need to get rid of a drug dealer and they put his body in a bath and Jesse pours in loads of hydrofluoric acid to melt the body.

1:12:00But then in the show, the bath then melts, it melts through the bath, melts through the floor and the ceiling and falls through to the floor below. This is in Breaking Bad, yeah. That's in Breaking Bad season one. That's everything we've just been talking about. Yeah.

1:12:12SlamJar:No, but you made it sound like that was in Mythbusters. No, I said Walt and Jesse. This is all in the series. I think, what am I saying? Do you think it's possible in the real world? Could hydrofluoric acid melt a body down first, dispose of a body, and then could it go through the bath, through the floor, the lino, the ceiling? I think yes, because I don't think they'd do the show. exactly what I was going to say it's such a big plot point I think they would have at least had a look can we actually do that before doing it how would you test it? put a pig in a bath he's there I think I would yeah literally pig in a bath?

1:12:52no it's not is it pig in a bath? no it's not no it's not

1:12:56SlamJar:I told you I was going to have a worldview today he's done it what? I can't was it actually pig in a bath? Okay, so before they get to the big experiment, hydrofluoric acid is so toxic, even a tiny amount of it on your skin could be deadly. So to test them if they had to go to an actual chemist, he got some concentrated, some of the concentrated corrosive safely. First, before a big experiment, they got seven bowls and in each bowl they put a piece of ceramic, a piece of wood, a piece of cast iron for the bathtub, no frogs, a piece of lino, a piece of drywall, a piece of steel, and a piece of meat.

1:13:35Frog, sperm. Pig. Pig. A small piece in each of these bowls, and then they poured 100 milliliters of hydrofluoric acid into each of those and left it for eight hours to see how the acid would react with each of these things that it needs to break down for this scene to work. Yeah. After eight hours, what happened to each one of those things? They dissolved. Apart from the pig. No, they all... It was only the pig that dissolved. I think it's happened how it's happened in the show. after eight hours the drywall almost fully dissolved everything else pretty much still just as it was a little bit of damage but barely anything and the pig the pig melted a little bit but not not loads so because of that there wasn't much of a change they decided that they wanted to test if any acid was strong enough so that isn't that is i think it's because fluoride is known to be like the most reactive thing but when they mix it with hydrogen the way they mix doesn't then make it as reactive as it could be it did myth it did bust the myth it busted the myth of the show however they then went can any acid do it hydrofluoric acid sounds like it's gonna be the worst but it's not they then get sulfuric acid but they mix it with a chemical that wouldn't even tell you on the show because they say we're not going to help you dissolve like dissolve a body so they they blur it out and they just say our secret ingredient mix sulfuric acid with that on this one they think it's so powerful before even they don't even do the little test they just go let's just do it so what do they do?

1:15:08Pig in a bath full pig dead pig huge bath dead pig always dead pig never a live pig they're not taking jaws off alive pigs we're not putting alive pigs in bath they created a whole rig outside in the desert bath floor undercarriage which has like a thing just in case everything melts through to kind of replicate the show as best as possible. They pour, I think it was like 30 gallons of the sulfuric acid into the bath. It starts bubbling up and melting stuff and huge smoke and everything straight away. What happened after they looked back at it once the smoke cleared? Pig gone. Pig nearly completely gone.

1:15:46Small parts of pig left, but mostly gone. So those people there could do it. That's why they said they're not telling you what the mixture is, because people could genuinely, potentially. What part of the pig was left? you couldn't see. It was like little bits. The whole bath water had gone black and gross and just little bits of lumps. And the bath one as well then? Bath. So they did it in the first one, the steel bath didn't get affected at all. Not the steel bath. What was it made of? Cast iron didn't really get affected at all. So then one quick test they did do with the sulfuric acid is got the three different types of bath, which is cast iron, steel, and then fiberglass, which is what most of our baths are made out of.

1:16:25Fiberglass got affected quite a lot. so final test fiberglass bath pig gone fiberglass bath looked crazy burnt and extremely damaged but then nothing to the floor or anything so flipping heck myth theory slammed both of the breaking bads when they tested slam not possible in real life oh nothing's real vince gilligan and aaron paul on the episode were both like he kept going artistic license you think you saw that but the bath was made of cheese. He just kept saying things like that.

1:16:58SlamJar:That's why I've, you know any things that can happen in real life? I used to love Breaking Bad. Got a tattoo of it. I hate it now. I've just ruined the show for you. Shit. Vince Gilligan needs to fucking switch on. No, they're doing a new show, aren't they as well? What are they doing? What's it called? Happy or something? Making up fucking... No, they're doing a new, like the creators of Breaking Bad. I don't know if it's anything to do with Breaking Bad. I'll be watching it. You ain't. Neither should these guys. It'll be terrible. Maybe he learned, because that was early. Maybe he learned from his mistakes and all the future things are going to be...

1:17:27SlamJar:No, I'm not giving him another chance. If there's one thing you know about me, I don't give people second chances. You don't, mate. You don't. Pluribus. Yep. There we go. This has been Jackmates Happy Hour podcast. The Theory Slammers. You feel good? Yeah, man. And we've got Slam Jar and Slamwise Gandhi. We'll see you next week when we'll be doing something different. But this has been good fun. If they like it, I can return it another month. You've been teaching me some stuff. I'm going to go down the pub now. Robbie's fun though, yeah. yeah what'd you say just give Robbie a go he'd love this yeah maybe we should do all four of us on yeah three's a better dynamic yeah you go and put your feet up mate cheers mate you know what he said that because he don't want to be that one guy is clapping at home going yeah get Robbie on get Robbie on that's for you mate that's for you finally got him off see you in a few days

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