626 - Alfie’s Indra-spective Thoughts

34:18Time, you have to have time. Turns out you have to have time. Time makes sense of everything. Everything, time is everything. You know, so like my nan, what am I trying to say here? You know, I'm 29. Yeah. If you thought of age as like, dying of old age is a hundred percent and we go by age by how close our bodies are to that yeah right so i'm 29 but someone else that's 29 might have the body and organs of a 40 year old yeah well it's like that fella in it who thinks he's de-aging you know that fella yeah is that what you're saying or not yeah like my nan yeah is probably as chipper as like a 60 year old but she's 85 right so she might be on 85 percent whereas that 60 year old could also be on 85 percent yeah so why are we putting numbers we put ages on ourselves you don't know when you're gonna die do you but why do we have to be an age that's just a way to quantify who you are that's what i want to get to the nub of it well all of it is just to make sense of everything we've done it to make sense like cavemen weren't weren't going it's july they're just going i need to go kill and they weren't going i'm 43 no what i'm saying is were cavemen doing that though were cavemen go in cool I don't know he's like you're old yeah they knew they must have known what's up you're old like obviously not saying the words but aware of someone being old and someone being very young yeah but then there's this but like people will go oh I I can't do that I'm 40 can't do what I don't know go to a club or like yeah or like oh Salah's or like Ronaldo's still really good for 40 but why are we comparing his 40 to someone else do you know what I'm trying to say it's meaningless I've lost it I don't know what I'm trying to work out in my head I don't know what I'm trying to work out in my head I'm not sure this is pissing people off Alfie no I know it's terrible I'm not enjoying it what's the time on 33 33 in half an hour okay let's scrap that one Because that's actually just upsetting me.

36:51Yeah, I think that's a struggle. I think we need time. We're literally using a stopwatch to make sure we can time this correctly. Because otherwise, say tomorrow I went to you, oh, can you meet me tomorrow, right? All right, let's try and plan a meeting time tomorrow without using time. Right? How do we do it, Alfie? When the sun comes up. That's what they would have done. But then that is, are you using time in a way? Yeah, but when does the sun come up? Is it the first little beacon of light that you see? Is it when the full sun can be seen in the sky? do you know what you probably have to do is just say i'll meet you here and then you just get there at massively different times and just wait yeah but that's not what you want and that's not what no i know but that's what would happen isn't it yeah that's what they used to do though we'll meet at noon we'll meet at the at dusk like how do you know when noon is then the sun is that its highest yeah i'd look at it i guess probably now they would have had sundials 10 i'd be like what they would have had sundials yeah sundial that's good answer but that's time that's showing you time based on the shadow of the sun.

37:49Yeah. Mate, this is a... We're not... This is shit. We're not qualified to answer it. We need a smart person on to give us the answers. Well, there's going to be smart people listening. This next question will win everyone round. We need to do this episode again, but with Dara Ennis. But I still don't understand it. We need to do this episode again, but with Dara Ennis. Yeah. And then that makes sense. Okay. Do you want me to call him and ask him? No. All right, he's probably working. what would i ask him why do we have time he's working he's on break we must know someone smart enough to ask yeah dara ennis i'll ask him why don't you send him a voice note yeah i'll send him a voice now what what shall i say which one do you want to do telling them we're having an existential crisis on the podcast we're just send a voice and we're having existential crisis on the podcast we're trying to we're trying to hello mate um just here with uh stevie uh and alfie we're doing a podcast and we're the the aim of this particular episode is that we're trying to we're being smart we're theorizing things and we're stuck on a couple of things mate and we're wondering if you could kindly shed some light on these things much like you do on your brilliant podcast so the questions that we need answering stevie what are they mate um do we need time because time we know time is a human construct but how could we live life without time do we need ages.

39:12Do we need anything like that? Do we need to say I'm 32? Does it matter? And also, what would happen if everyone in the world just decides not paying tax anymore? Everyone. So the government are trying to enforce it. Tough luck. Billions of us are not doing it. Thank you, mate. Sorry if you're really busy and we're just wasting your time. Yes, we are. Yeah, you ended up with time. So you couldn't even do that. Couldn't even get through a voice note without using time. Wasting your life. That seems too dramatic. That would have been so funny if he's like, I've got three here. Two are really shit.

39:46Okay, shall we go shit? I'm going to do a non-shit one. What, and then finish on two shit ones? They're not shit, but they're just like... They're a bit like the time one. I think if we consistently say it's not good, they get into that mentality. So we need to really say it's great. No, I think I'm interested by them. Say these are brilliant. I can't, because I don't want to say them and then people think he thinks they're brilliant. I think they're interesting. Okay, that's all we need. That's all we need. We're going to make them brilliant. I think I've done this one before. Yeah, okay. This I am genuinely interested in.

40:21This is good. Right. This is good. Yeah. Let's just gaslight them into thinking this is good. Yeah. Why do we not all like and dislike the same foods? We all have a tongue with taste buds. Things are bitter. Things are sweet. Things are sour. why do I like the taste of something that Stevie doesn't like the taste of? Couldn't you use that in any context? Couldn't you say, we're all human beings. Why do we not find the same human beings attractive? No, but he's narrowing it down to specific small little things on your tongue. Yeah, like that's less. Why is taste subjective at all? Why do we not all like chocolate?

41:09is it because so like Stevie doesn't like sweet corn does sweet corn remind him of a bad time in his life or did he have sweet corn and then got really ill and then it's got, do you know what I'm trying to say why don't we just all like and dislike the same thing? Is it like, is it nature or nurture? Is it an evolution thing or maybe not evolution but like ancestry is it like, because obviously people in different cultures like certain foods where we might try something in another culture and be like oh that's so, because we're not used to it it's what you're brought up on right it's what you've been eating ever since you were young you sort of grow up to which means are we all able to like the same thing yeah i think anyone you have to get past which is a conversation we've obviously said about all needing to try and eat foods yeah i think there's a guy on um instagram or tiktok i watch and he eats the most most repulsive food you can imagine yeah daily because he reckons you can train yourself to like anything so he tried he's been trying that really horrible like stinky fish you know that where you and it all looks like guts and stuff you throw up as soon as the can's open I could open the can downstairs in the cafe and you'd smell it up that bad and he's been buying that it's got like a Swedish name I can't quite remember the name but he's been eating it daily on TikTok the first day he opens it he's like dry heaving can't get it in his mouth he's been doing it every day for like a month or whatever and now he can just nom it in so you can you can yeah why so two but then me and my sister don't like might like different things we were brought up on the same food but if you were if you were consistently uh yeah that's a good point me and my sister don't like yeah why yeah but were you brought up on the same food to the point like no but like if if as a kid she had the first thought of i don't like that did your mom instantly go cool she doesn't like that but in reality if she just kept making her eat it she'd then like it but why did she instantly not like it at the start that's what i mean but then someone else might have it and like it the first time it's like you're thinking aren't you stevie yeah you are thinking i'm thinking my cousin reese is a foodie right yeah he's always he'll go all around the world eat anything you give him right pig's head he'll eat that yeah he does he cannot eat baked beans right that's so strange blows my mind because i love baked beans that's strange as well Why?

43:33I just don't think it's a thing anyone can love. Yeah, on a fry-up, baked beans, oh, make everything else tasty. I like baked beans. No, I like it. I just don't think anyone can go, I love baked beans. But I can't wrap my head around it. Bland. He will eat snails. He'll eat raw fish with their heads on the eyeball of the fish. All this stuff. But he cannot eat a baked bean. Yeah, that's mad. I know taste is subjective. That's what we're trying to work out. But objectively, a fish eye is going to be more disgusting than a baked bean, right? Yeah. right there. Yeah. So why can't... Yeah, but why?

44:03Why do you think a fish eye is more gross than a bean? Because you're not used to it. Whereas in some like maybe Scandinavian countries where they'll eat fish a lot more. Yeah. Probably might go baked beans not for me. They might go, what, there's a bean in sauce? What the fuck? Yeah, like Americans think it's where we eat them. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm not a massive fan of baked beans, but I'll eat them. But I won't have pinto or black beans or anything like that. So I think that's a completely different thing. even though it's not really is it would you eat a burger if I now got you a burger from this new takeaway place yeah it was like a cheeseburger and I went that's got that's got hooves and arsehole in that would you eat it no I would eat it would you yeah because that's probably what I've been eating anyway yeah but if you don't know it if it looked like a burger yeah if it looked like a burger and they went that's gonna taste like a normal burger yeah but that's hooves and arsehole I'd go because how do I how the fuck do I know what is in my burger from McDonald's.

44:59I have no idea. 100 % beef, mate. British beef. Yeah, arsehole's beef. Right, and that's why we can't do this episode. Why? Because we come out with arsehole's beef, which doesn't happen on these other pods that I'm listening to. And arsehole's still beef. Arsehole's not beef, though, is it? Yeah, I know, but that goes without saying, doesn't it? Arsehole's beef goes without saying. They don't care to mention it on the other pods. But that's why we're being real. Is it real? We are being real. Are we? if you yeah if the diary of a CEO guy there from from a farm he'd go even the even the anus is is technically from the no he wouldn't though because Stephen would go I know it's on the cow no hold on he's saying it's not beef this idiot you're saying it's not beef no I'm not saying that I'm asking because I'm not sure you know arsehole is beef no but you know if it's a cow arsehole I'm so sorry that's my yeah not all arseholes beef a pig's arsehole is pork no But this is what I'm asking is, you know, when you go into like a restaurant and there's like a cow up on the wall and it shows you like an image of a cow and it'll be a diagram.

46:05Start with that. Okay, sorry. I've never seen a cow. But have you been to like a steakhouse or whatever? And there's an image of a cow on the wall and it's cut down. It's got, it's like a diagram. Yeah. And it shows you this is the flank. This is that. It's all beef. Is it all beef, including arsehole? But they're all just types of beef. Sirloin, flank, rump, stuff like that. That's all beef. You know you've got one Google left? Is cow arsehole beef? No! No! Is cow arsehole beef? No, I refuse. That's the best Google we could have used all up. Is cow anus... Still beef. Still counted. Still classed as beefy.

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48:25Ringpiece Oh my god Google's just made the best joke of the day Ringpiece steak Biologically beef culinary disgusting Wow Yeah Wow Cool You've learned something What was the original question? Why do we not all like the same food? And we found out by theorising that a cow's arse I was still big Would you eat ringpiece steak? Yeah I would I would because right this is where i was getting at and this does come back to your point what why do i give a fuck right if i'm eating a cow's belly right why do i give a fuck if i'm if it's a cow's belly or a cow's bummol yeah why do i get i'm eating yes animal's belly no because so loud for the people in the back no but you're in a cow's belly it's disgusting no but then you do care like if you go and get a steak you have a preference of steak i like because of the taste but I don't go, I'm not eating rump, but I'll eat a bit of sirloin.

49:24It's just because I like the toughness of the sirloin. Ringpiece steak would be tough as well, probably. Yeah! I'd probably love it. That was gross, isn't it? I'd probably love it. Give me a ringpiece cut. I wonder if we can ask a butcher to get that sorted for you. I know you're saying it out loud. That could be episode two. that might be the only thing keeping this alive maybe when I go to do that sausage I'll find out can I get ring piece did you hear about this did I tell you about this yes yeah brilliant yeah I think it's good yeah alone just me on my own going to make a sausage yeah just has he told you that it conveniently falls on the same day as Molly's birthday Fiona's best friend's birthday and I've got to go 30 miles to a farm at 6pm yeah time doesn't exist though good okay so why don't we all that one has an answer I reckon that bit we've just done there is the best bit of the podcast you said it would be interesting you were right keep it coming I think that one of all of them so far will have a definitive answer why we all like different tastes but we don't know the answer will I delete my voice notes to Dara and ask him that one because that seems more no because I think that one anyone can google but I think Dara will have a good answer So should we Google that then just to let them listen?

50:48You wasted it on arsehole beef. Okay. I've just thought of another one as well. Not all arseholes are beef. Remember that. Are we on? No. It's the one I've just thought of better than these ones. That's what I'm thinking. Some of these are mental, like genuinely. Wouldn't you just say the one you thought of? The one I thought of, right, I'm going to get a bit musical here. Okay. So I do know some things about this, but I don't know the ultimate nub of why. Why do some songs and chord progressions and melodies make us feel happy and others make us feel sad and others make us feel pumped up? At the end of the day, music and notes and all of this shit is just someone going like this or like this and making random noises, right?

51:41that to our brains sound nice together. Why does a sad piano song, why is that sad? And why is something else happy? Dum, dum, dum, dum. Perfect. Why does that evoke danger? Not to make this one even harder, but does the taste thing, but like a different form of taste, also come into this? Because there will be people who love heavy metal. And when they hear that, that makes them happy. Can I just quickly tell you, going off that, you know a couple of weeks ago we were talking about I did that speed awareness course? I've just remembered this, right? Have you ever done a speed awareness course?

52:21No, I've got one coming up. Have you actually? Why are we all doing them at the same time? I've got one on Monday. Have you? I've got one at the end of the month. I did one on Monday. And you zoom in and you see everyone else on the call and you have the whole call, right? And you know I told you about there was an older guy that had a bad neck and he had to keep standing up? That guy. he he said to someone right um this woman went oh um we're talking about the dangers of driving and um the guy went oh what are you supposed the the guy who's doing the course he went what are supposed to do if you feel really tired at the at the wheel the obvious answer is pull over right get us get a kip or whatever and this woman went oh i hate it because when i'm on the motorway it's like a metronome so i always feel more tired even when i'm not tired and this old man blessing he went um guys he goes this really helps me when i'm tired he goes but if you just it's the worst it's the worst suggestion so did you just put on really quiet classical music lullabies classical music I was looking, he's totally serious.

53:30And everyone's going... And he goes, I just put on quiet. He goes, classical music. He names the stage in Classic FM. And he goes, and that really just gets me going. What did the guy running the thing say? He called him out on it. He went, well, that might not work for everyone, David. That wasn't the actual name. Yeah, it might not work for everyone, David. And I think he even went, for me, that wouldn't necessarily... that's so weird I thought you were going to say heavy metal no you said classical music that's so strange the worst suggestion where were we music music but yeah I'm not necessarily saying about so like songs can remind you of scenarios right yeah so you might have a song from a bad time or a good time in your life that means nothing to me but that brings you back there I'm not talking about that I'm talking about actual physical dun dun dun dun yeah why is that danger is it because it sounds like a predator.

54:28Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Is that it? Is it to do with tempo? Is it to do with heart rate? I think that one's harsh as well because I reckon someone who's very talented could take the dun-dun-dun-dun and turn it into like a dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun Yeah, Bill Bailey does that. You change it into a major key. And it's suddenly nice. But, so like a minor key, right? It's just so hard to explain. But like, Minor keys are ones which are more like negative. Oh, okay. And major keys are your like, do you remember the 21st night of September? So like those ones make you, they evoke more happiness and positivity.

55:12And the minor keys might be like, hello, darkness, mild friend or whatever. I don't know if it isn't a minor key, but it probably is. that gives you negative emotions what is that triggering in us it's obviously like a huge music theory thing isn't it so is it possible or has it been done before where a musician can make an extremely happy song in a minor key is that doable or is it almost like if you're in the minor you're gonna have no well don't know people out there if you had it upbeat maybe but can you do an upbeat minor or does it sound jarring my cousin franco phrase has a song called treasures right and it's a love song but written about all the negative parts of his relationship yeah but how even the negative parts of the relationship make you what you who you are and it's sung almost in a sad way but it is it provokes happy feelings but that's because of the lyrics but does the feeling of the song if you took out the lyrics and you just had it as a melody would you think it's a happy song or a sad song if you didn't know what the lyrics were you wind me up so much but you're still the one for me i don't know sad yeah but it's that's not like like so is it ignoring lyrics just melody can you make a minor key song super happy don't know why do you play lullabies to babies why don't they go to sleep to black sand yeah i reckon some babies will yeah i think that i think that's a nurture thing my mate's baby will only go to sleep to jenny from the block how mad is that that is mad so on his spotify wrapped it was just jenny from the block i used to when i worked at um a day center like um people from they all had autism they come from they're like assisted living to our day center this was It was like 10 years ago.

57:12There was this old man, nonverbal, and so he couldn't really communicate. He'd click and like bang his chest. But he loved old music, and you could kind of tell it was making him happy. But when you play, I can't remember what it was. There was this one song, and it wasn't even a sad song. But if you played it, and obviously you'd never play it, but they worked out every time this song came on, he would cry and no one ever knew why lived experience lived experience but isn't that association isn't that like really how we connect ourselves to music do you know what i mean like the brain is that a very human thing yeah yeah it's music very human because imagine obviously i don't know the person but imagine that situation where they're crying to this happy song but that's because that's the song their dad always played when they were younger and their dad's dead now or they would get like abused and that song would be on in the background so that brain's connected to that I think we all have songs that we it could be that but then there's other emotions like Fix You by Coldplay when it goes into that at the end makes you feel really uplifted that's a really nuanced feeling that's not happy or sad that makes you feel really a certain way it feels powerful And the first time I listened to it when I was a kid, I remember listening to that for the first time and feeling really uplifted by it and almost being like, whoa.

58:48Yeah. Like that's tapped into an emotion I've not even really felt. But how does that song do that to us? Maybe you were already kind of feeling that emotion at the time and that drew you out of it. Like, I don't know what it, but like. I don't know. You know, like, you know, like Sam Fender, the bit in the song where it goes, what's the bit where it goes like back and forth yeah yeah yeah like V and I went to Glastonbury and he did that and he would do the song a bit like how Freddie Mercury would do you would sing it back I got chills and now when I listen to that song that bit there gives me chills it's kind of euphoric yeah but it's because of how I was feeling when I first heard that that I feel it just brings back that what's weirder is that we all understand these experiences of being able to feel music that way, there are some people who get no feeling from music.

59:40There are people out there who just get nothing from music. My new favourite niche on TikTok is, I've seen it once or twice, of these people, right? They have like, they claim that they have, and maybe they do, and I'm just becoming across really ignorant, but they claim that they have this kind of like condition. You're going to say the Cynthia Erivo thing, aren't you? Right. Can't stand it. I can't stand that. Can I stand it? Not her. Do you see what I mean? Not her. I don't like any of that. When people go four plus four is yellow, no, it's not. It's eight. No, no, I'm talking about... No, no, it's all the same shit, though.

1:00:08What you're about to say is the same shit as that. I'm talking about... None of it is a thing. There are these specific people that think they can, like, there'll be a song, and then there'll be, like, beats in the background, like how you make up any song, right? You've got, like, the bass, then you've got the drums and stuff like that. And there'll be these people that say that they're hyper-aware of music. And you'll see them on TikTok, and they're always these artsy fuckers, right? And then they'll be like, oh, I just hear every bit of the music, and I'm in it. and it's like that's called listening to music yeah but we can all do that okay maybe not then i thought you were going to say the synth for your evo thing which cracked me up there's an interview they're like around the table and um she goes apparently it's a condition where when you hear music you can you see the notes as a color or whatever and she's an individual she's with jennifer lawrence who goes okay what's this uh she just says it straight away and she's like It's like a yellow.

1:00:59And I'm just like, oh. I hate it. Is Wednesday not orange to you, though? Yeah. I hate all that. Massively. It doesn't make sense. In my head, I remember even being a kid, like Wednesday was orange to me. I don't know why. Orange Wednesdays, because that was the... It's not an actual thing. What Saturday? Three, two, one, blue. What? Don't say dunno. Because there was never a blue Saturday, was it? No, but in your head, do you not have Saturday as a... Like, Sunday is yellow. Don't... Right, so Thursday. Let me think what Thursday is, right? I've got two for Thursday. You're going to say yellow.

1:01:28No, I'm not going to say yellow. I thought you were going to say because of the happy hour. No, right. So, Alfie, have you got a Thursday? Have you got a Thursday? Yeah. Right, okay, on the count of three. Three, two, one. Purple. Okay. Not too far off. But why are you associating? I get it when you associate something like if you go, oh, what's winter? And you go, blue. Yeah. I get it when you're associating it to something in the actual thing, but like days of the week and stuff. It just does. I reckon mine is because maybe they had the days of the week out in reception in different colours and the Wednesday was orange do you remember orange Wednesday what I'm saying is why is Tuesday red to me then I think I had a planner and Tuesday was red like if you asked me to make you a colour coded weekly schedule and you wanted them different colours I would make Tuesday red Monday would be red for me see that to me is mental that's a light blue to me I reckon it is a childhood thing I am insufferable but no genuinely I think I get I get that people have it but I imagine it just stems back to childhood where something's in your head because of it I don't think there's a genuine thing two minutes what are we on?

1:02:47yeah but we're cooking on gas now and I do think it's important to end this with our minute silence Alf, give us one more It's like, you know like the French language Everything is feminine or masculine Yeah We could do that now, couldn't we? What's a chair to you? Male Yeah, but then are we just going Oh, naturally, because it's strong It's lifting something up Like that's what you're doing with all of these things No, no, no, no Because I think a chair would be male But I think a sofa would be female Because it holds you Because it's comfortable Is that why I'm doing that, though? Yeah, that's what I think you are.

1:03:24I'll say some stuff. Yeah. Kitchen.

1:03:29That's good. I would go kitchen. I'd go female. Of course you would. Okay, washing up. Washing up is an action. It's not a big thing. Yeah, okay, football. Football, round, curvy, male. All right, Joey Barton. What about then Voting That's not a thing Alright an object Bum A bum No because a bum is usually attached to A peach Female Shoes For me shoes would be male Really What sort of shoes are you thinking of though Desert boots Stilettos? No, work shoes. Something on work shoes. Washing machine. Washing machine. If longer, we've cow gone. A washing machine. The actual washing machine, I think, would be male.

1:04:30Because it's stocky. It's rumbly. Yeah. One more. Give me one more. Okay. I just want to catch him out. He's just gone. He's actually said each one each time. He said female kitchen. Yeah, go on. One more. I want to do a hard one. Yeah. a boulder trans

1:04:53it didn't matter what you said then I was going to say trans that was a joke one more come on one more a Pepsi can a can male because of beers fosters and that yeah that's what I mean you're associating it to something masculine or feminine we're cutting it straws now it's actually a really good episode go on do one more do your next question you want one more yeah one more If you got it down.

1:05:20I don't even want to do this one. Don't do it then. Do the next one. No, no, do it. That makes me want to hear it more. What actually are names? I don't believe it. They're just noises that we assign to each other and become our identities. We'll leave it there. It's been Jackmates. How did names even start? Who came up with these noises? It hasn't been Jackmates Happy Hour Podcast. It's been Alfie Indra's Happy Hour Podcast. What does that mean? Alfie Indra? It's just a sound. For more introspective thoughts, let us know in the comments down below. Shenefi99 will be desperately waiting to hear what you thought of this.

1:05:51If you could really give us a detailed sort of review, that would be amazing. Stevie, we'll be back sooner or later. Can you plan the next one? I'll plan the next one, yeah. I mean, I have some shower thoughts of my own. Oh, the shower thoughts episode was really good. Yeah, well, do you want to know what we discussed? No, no. Don't let them know what they could have had, because that will make them sad. Maybe. do cats experience gravity in their necks? Save that. It's one of mine. Save that. I get it. I get it. Yeah, they sit there like that and they never ever just lay their head down like that.

1:06:21They can loaf like that. And I think that must hurt your neck after. See you in a bit. Can you cry underwater? That would have been good, Jack. We should have done that. I've got plenty, mate. I've got plenty. Sorry, Stevie. Your nose is always in vision. Really? But your brain blocked it out. Why does your brain have to block it out? Why can't we just see our nose? Lots of fingers like that, boys. Nice. That's not going out, is it? Yeah. That air? Yeah. Yeah, we need to. I'm off on holiday, so we need to fill the gap. Go offline, mate.

1:06:58Go offline, mate.

1:07:05Jack makes happy hour. Well, I don't know what I was expecting from that voice note, but it wasn't that. Okay. First of all, time is absolutely a construct. It's made up totally and utterly completely. And the idea of it being a certain time of day, certain hour, certain day of the week, it's absolutely made up. We don't need it to survive, but we need to synchronize things. Things need to be done at the same time, forgive the word. Otherwise, everything doesn't work. so computer systems all have to run at the same time and they're very carefully controlled so without synchronized time modern life as we understand it would cease to exist interesting concept on this the idea of it being a certain time only really became universal when trains came out in the uk so that sounds a bit weird but it's true they needed to synchronize the timetable of the trains and it used to be you know 12 o 'clock was kind of a fluid concept and they go, oh, it's 12 o 'clock in the town because that's what the clock on the town hall says.

1:08:10But that might not be the same 12 o 'clock as a town that's like five miles away. It could be 10 minutes off or half an hour off because it didn't really matter. No one knew. But once the trains came, that's when time really became synchronized. So having a central time in the UK only really happened in Victorian times. But yeah, we don't need it as such, but in the same way that we don't need electricity and we don't need to have cooked food, it's kind of useful. The other one, if everyone stopped paying taxes, governments would collapse. So you need income of some kind. As long as you have a currency system, if nobody paid taxes, the whole of society would break down in every single way.

1:08:50There's no way to avoid this. People don't understand how much of the economy goes into, like, what it does, what your tax money actually does. You know, the lights wouldn't stay on. There'd be no army. There'd be no roads. There'd be no infrastructure. There'd be no police. There'd be no ambulance. There'd be no hospitals. There'd be none of that stuff. It's all supported by the government and it has to come from somewhere. so the only way you could have no taxes is if you got rid of money as a concept and nobody had any wealth and everything was held in like a sort of communist kind of state then you could have no taxes because it wouldn't really matter because everything would be owned by the state but yeah you kind of need to pay your taxes as well unfortunately hope that helps i did that right off the top of my head while i'm preparing dinner so um if you want me to do a bit more in depth on those i'll have to look some stuff up but yeah you know nice to chat to you anyway Fall has never looked or tasted this good.

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