638 - ‘Would You Lie To Me?’ with Special Guest DANNY AARONS!

32:52And as soon as I read it, I was like, I've got the story. But before doing it, I remember going into that episode thinking, fuck, I'm going to be shit at this. It's fight or flight. And then you really learn about who you are in a moment like that. I fly. Yeah, you do. Oh God. Turns out you're a lying bastard. Sorry. Right. Sorry. Keep the scores written somewhere, Fee. Right. Danny, read this one. I gave out my own merchandise to school friends for non-uniform day. Okay, so what age were you when you started streaming? Not wrong with that, mate. Did I say it? Sorry, what age was what? What age did you start streaming?

33:30Streaming? Ooh, no. Not until like 18. You've asked the wrong question, Stevie. Yeah. You've asked the wrong question. Yeah, you've asked the wrong question. You've asked the wrong question, boy. What age did you start YouTube? 10. When did you first create a piece of merch? Oh, God. Can I talk into school years now? Yeah. It would have been year seven. First year at new school. Okay, and what was that piece of match? It was a hoodie, white hoodie, plain white hoodie, but it had a design on it, right, of an ice cube holding a controller. Oh, okay. Did it say Danny Aarons on it? It said Ice X FIFA.

34:18Was that your original name? Ice X FIFA. How did you get the funds to create this merch as a 11-year-old boy, 12-year-old boy? My dad. My sugar daddy. I mean, mate, three hoodies. And you've got to remember, this ain't fucking whatever, like nice. It's just a fucking towel. Right. So, I mean, I think it was about 30 quid. Yeah. Yeah, okay. And how many of these did you have made up? Three. Oh. Only three. Three. Oh, yes. No, sorry. Is that now lackluster? Just three. Three. Four. Four. Because I wore one. Four. And you gave, and you had three made up. Yes. So, okay, we're still looking at about 100 quid, aren't we?

35:00No, we're not. How much was it? This is a towel. No, it was in 30 quid combined. All of them. It was like a tenner each, mate. Why are you doing fruit and looms like even that cheap? Stevie, this was like, what, 2015? Times have changed, man. Cost of living crisis. Yeah. They were cheap. Stevie, do they still have non-uniform days at school? Yeah. Is that a thing? Yeah. Right, okay. I don't know if we... Mate, mate... My God, do you think I'm ancient? No, I'm older than you. You had non-uniform days. Yeah, but I thought maybe that was just an old thing. Mate, not only... No, it was the best day ever.

35:29Not only did they have non-uniform days, they have them for the weirdest reasons. It was like National Numbers Day the other day. Oh, classic. So at Isaac's school, they said, go in dressed as a number. What the fuck does that mean? I bet all the kids did six, seven. Loads of them. And then some kids just wore a football shirt with like someone had Duncan Ferguson on the back of an Everton shirt. How would you dress up as a number? Exactly. Isaac weirdly has a t-shirt with loads of algebra on it, and it just says what part of, and loads of algebra, this, don't you understand? That's not dressing up as a number.

36:03Yeah, because I'm not fucking... That's just wearing something with a number on it. Yeah, mate, it was a shit day to do. How much notice did you get? A week. Yeah, that's bollocks. You can't have a week. You've got a week, be a number. Yeah, what is be a number? No, you can't. Imagine I just put him in like a big two. Yeah. Sellotape him up and he's a one. Hop in. I like it. I'll do that if they do number day next year. Don't pick seven. He's like, okay. Oh, well he could do it with his arm, but that doesn't look good either. That's a gift now. That's a gift. Fucking hell. Right. So. Sorry, a bit distracted.

36:41You give out these, you give these out, do you? Yeah, I gave them away. What part of your friends is going, yeah, I'd love that, mate. Well, this is the thing that he, this included out of the story. I gave it away. Can I name drop? Yeah. I won't full name. Right. I gave three away to Luke. Yep. Callum. Yep. And James. Yeah. Luke Norton. Luke Norton. Callum Stevenson. James Shearer. Okay. Gave these away. Yeah. It was, I remember it was in the, in our form room. In our form room. Yeah. But are they not already in non-uniform? Yeah. Go on. I'll talk about that. But like a hoodie, I thought, wear it over the top.

37:21Keep them warm. Do you know what I mean? Because this was in like peak summer. So I'm just rocking around like a dick in a hoodie. Yeah. So I'm sure your friends wanted them as well. Stevie, I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it. I give it, because they're all in my form, 7E. Give them to them at the start of the day. Tell me why. Why the fuck have you taken this out? Tell me why, at the end of the day, you think I'm playing you, I'm telling the whole heart truth. At the start. Oh, I don't like it. At the start of the day, I gave them these hoodies. They said, oh my God, these are sick. Wow, thanks so much.

37:533.30 p.m., just finished maths class. We've got a massive, in the hallway, there's a massive bin. I've opened it to put some shit in it. My hoodies are in the fucking bin. All of them. My hoodies are in the fucking bin, all three of them. In the same, not even like they've gone throughout the day, oh, we'll put it in and then another. They were all just there. they all just collaborated and said fuck him off put it in the bin same time when they said these are sick maybe you misheard they said these are shit these are shit yeah alright fuck Stevie I can't tell if there's truth elements but he's sprinkling in too much information which is throwing me off like remembering it was specifically maths class that he finished that's how you have to that's how you mask a lie isn't it you like that it's like he's saying so much information that he's making me think it's a lie.

38:50That strategy is what I did last time. Thinking back to the first version of Danny Aaron's we got coming on this podcast, I could see that kid doing that shit. Thank you. But that was that kid. Generous, generous. That was that kid. But also I couldn't see that. I don't think that boy had friends. He said he had three. Oh, three, yeah. Well, they clearly fucking won. and these end up in the bin. So they weren't my fucking friends. Oh my God, you're so good at this. That's my fucking trauma, Stevie. This is not me playing a bit. Don't say trauma, because if I now say it's a lie, that will feel really bad if it's the truth.

39:29I'm going to need to push you for an answer. Ball's in your court. I'm going to need to push you for an answer. I'm going to say it is... What did I say the first one was? It doesn't matter, does it? Random order. I'm going to say this is true. Danny. Oh, I don't need the laptop, do I? Can I check? Actually, did you give out your own merchandise to school friends for non-uniform day? That is true. It's true. One, one. Wow. One, one. Did they genuinely bin him? Yes. Oh, mate. Have you spoken to him since? Well, since that happened, yeah. I had to go to school with him for another five years. But not since school, no.

40:02What did they say about it? Nothing. Because I'm a bitch. I didn't... That's harsh. I didn't really... I just kind of accepted it. You're giving him a gift and they're whacking him in the bin. That's harsh. One of your, like... fans now would love those hoodies. Yeah. It was shit quality. Yeah, but they'd have the OG Danny Aaron's, well, Ice Xbox thing. Well, actually, I'd had football shirts much, maybe two years ago. Yeah. I'd have sat on eBay for two quid. Yeah. I don't think anyone would care. Do you do much now? Nah. I just spin it off. All right, okay. Tried it. Moving on to number three.

40:40Read that out. Oh, I have a very small cameo in a massively popular film? Well, the obvious question is there straight away, isn't it? What film? Mean Girls. The new one. But still Mean Girls. But it was a musical. You told us Mean Girls is your favourite film ever. So that feels like the best thing ever for you. When was this out? When did this come out? 2023? A couple years ago? 2024. I didn't even know there was a new. Well I don't think anyone cared mate. Oh well. Hello? The fuck?

41:26Jesus fucking Christ. My favourite man. Yeah the original, not that blank one of the shit. You've got a memory, you remember that about that. Yeah, I do, because it's quite a weird thing to say. yeah no offense no no i mean film good film it's the best but best ever is he's mad keep digging mate okay um so how did uh that opportunity come about my manager jack now can i preface something yeah it was this is gonna sound like bollocks now it wasn't the actual movie it was the movie they showed on the premiere night like the premiere screening special right so it didn't actually go in cinemas so you got cut out of it yes and i'm not gonna lie that fucking killed me yeah talk me through your scene okay this is a scene we're in the school cafeteria why is everything in school school cafeteria yeah but it was like it's like an american one yeah i don't know how else to explain that but it was like an i've never been in a cafeteria that looks like this right okay where was it shot in brixton okay in brixton oh you didn't even go to america for it no fuck why would they they filmed it in england oh okay it's an english thing yeah is it yeah Yeah, they filmed it in England Fucking VAR it, man The new one's English VAR it VAR Anyway, they filmed it in Brixton And I'm This is not Prime This guy You didn't have a beard No, I don't think I did Well, you couldn't have, if you were at school No, but I'm not playing a school kid Oh, what are you playing?

43:04Like a college kid. Duh. So I weren't in like uniform. I literally just wore, they just told me to wear unbranded clothes. So I just came in my outfit. They didn't change it. They put makeup on me and shit. They didn't even give you a costume? No, no. I had nothing. Like I just had to wear Uniqlo. They said Uniqlo or ASOS. Were you just an extra? Yeah. I was just in the back. Like you could see, I'll be so for real you can't see me. You can see, I remember because there's a fat guy. There's a fat, I pop up when there's a fat guy on the screen, like dancing or something, twirling. And as he twirls, you can see the corner of my face like that.

43:40Oh, is this like in the middle of a song? Yeah. Yeah. So why were you cut out then? Well, I don't fucking know. Right. So I'm here and in the actual show, gone. I'm not even a frame. But in the premiere, You see it. Not really. Because I'm at the premiere and I'm like, this is the fucking part. Fat man's getting up. This is the fucking part. And at the premiere, I couldn't really, like I was filming obviously in the moment to put it on my stories. In the moment I'm filming, couldn't see me. And then manager Jack's gone, how was that? I didn't fucking see me. I watched back the video and I'm in like half a frame.

44:18Did you get paid for it? Nah. Cause it was more so like passion for the game, like telling people I'm in Mean Girls. Can you remember the song? Nah. Honestly, they didn't, I'll fucking shock you here. They didn't even play the song. they didn't even play in silence well not in silence because we had to pretend to talk so all you heard was

44:41they did it in silence you're good at it that's why I was in the movie I feel like this is I'm watching pure art well this one if I get this wrong this one I feel like has to be a lie because I follow you on Twitter and X and Instagram. And I just can't see a way that this could have been a thing because this would have been fucking huge for you. And I just didn't see it. I thought it would be, Stevie. No, but I think... I guess maybe if you weren't allowed to post until it was out and then you didn't post because you weren't in it. Fuck. I'm going to... How long has he been with Jack Smith? Three years.

45:31the best three years of my life. So this is like one of the first things you did with him. And I thought he was about to change my life. Look at me now. He's still on the same shit podcast. Fuck. Fuck. Oh, I feel really bad for you if this is true. So I'm going to say it's a lie for your sake. Danny, is it a lie? Did you have a very small cameo in a massively popular film? I did no oh shit that was good because obviously you know Mean Girls is my favourite and I panicked and I didn't know what to say I actually genuinely thought that was a generational performance there from you I was admiring remembering that piece of information has saved me there if I didn't know how much he loved Mean Girls I would have gone oh fair enough why would he care I would have put it everywhere yeah you'd be all over it I thought you were good I honestly thought you were good no you played it well thank you okay next one On to number four.

46:29You're smashing this. You're smashing it. You're 2-1 down, but I've got nothing but faith in you. An insect once caused me to have a full-on mental breakdown. Surely I just need the story. What was the insect? Ant. An ant? How can an ant cause you to have a full-on mental breakdown? I was going through a bad time in my life. Okay, how long ago was this? Is this episode three, Danny Arons, or episode four, Danny Arons? Episode zero. Oh wow This is merch Danny Harris This is This is Oh god this is college I think This is college What do you want to know? The whole shebang? There's not really much I can ask other than what was the aunt doing to you Right okay I won't give you the whole Pre-story But I was going through a rough patch Didn't have a job, didn't have money And I thought I was a failure to my family Right this tipped me over the edge i would i would 18 okay 18 just fresh out of college i think right i don't know my memory of this is vague okay apart from the apart from the actual insect part which i can get into now but that's the important part yes of course i have my gaming set up in my garage at this time so it's fucking freezing it's dirty it's disgusting i used to piss in the corner i didn't even what what what truth yeah that's a trophy put in there i used to piss yeah i didn't even go out like i was in the garden and sometimes i couldn't be asked to go piss in the garden i just pissed in the corner did it not stink yeah anyway that's besides the point i want to know everything about that so you know now when i said i was going for a rough patch checks out.

48:22I had my gaming set up and I had my I've just bought a brand new monitor. 200 quid on this monitor. It was an ASOS stood up on its own. It had a stand and you could raise it up and down, left and right swivel, vertical. You got a monitor from ASOS? ASOS. ASUS? Yeah, whatever. Just got it, set it up. There's a fucking ant inside the monitor. There's an ant crawling around the monitor. And at first I was like, that's fucking funny. And no, it was because think about it. I'm trying to game and all of a sudden I keep, I just keep saying, crawling all around and it sent me fucking mental. Maybe it was a weird screen saver and you just didn't realize.

49:08It was real. And I, cause I ain't even got to the worst part, which will tell you why it's real, but it was going all day, all night. And it would like wake up at different times so i would try and play when i knew it was asleep anyway stop for a second talk me through an aunt's sleep schedule well not right it would always be there 7 to 12 p.m 7 p.m to 12 it would always be there great time to play as well fucking time which is why this pissed me off yeah um and right this is how i fully this was this was the final nail in the coffin. I got so, this was weeks of this, by the way. I got so fucking pissed.

49:48I squeezed the ant. Well, you just pressed the screen. I pressed the screen. Now there's a dead ant in the middle of the fucking screen. Why didn't you wait for it to get to a good place? I was young and dumb. You could have waited for like the little DVD thing to hit the corner. There we go. Yeah. I killed it right in the middle and it stayed there forever. Wow. Whatever. That could have been like your crosshair on Call of Duty. Yeah, literally it was like a crosshair, but it weren't right in the middle. It was kind of middle up. Ah. So it's just annoying. Distracting, yeah, more distracting.

50:20That's the whole fucking point. It was so distracting. So this caused you to have a mental breakdown? Yeah, I fully lost it. I fully lost it. It was the end of my life. What was the end result of all of this? I got my mate Ollie Jones round because he was like a technician. He surnames him every time. He was my technician. He was a technician. So he's gone in the monitor. he pissed me off mate he unscrewed the monitor but he kept my he kept my door open and I live in the garage so like it's just the outside world so much fucking dust coming in going in my fucking monitor so then he fixed he fixed it he get disassembled disassembles the whole monitor takes it off ant's gone he goes there you go mate no ant the whole fucking thing I dust all over it I couldn't see anything So then that just, yeah, it sent me.

51:10Whatever. And I had to pay him 120 quid for that. And I was a school kid. You could have got a new monitor. You could have got a new monitor. I didn't have loads of, yeah, but. You had 120 quid, mate. Yeah, but I didn't have loads of it. That was it. That was me breaking the fucking bank. Get a 120 quid monitor. No, because I just bought a 200 pound monitor. It was new. I'm going to have to press you, Stevie, for an answer. How much more info did you fucking want, man? No, no, on that, I'm going to have to say it's true. because there is not a chance in a normal human's brain that they could read that sentence and the first lie they come up with is that an ant was crawling inside a screen.

51:46My brain was like, oh, it's going to be crawling over his body whilst he's trying to sleep or something. And he's come up with this mental screen. It has to be true. Danny, is it true, did an ant once cause you to have a mental breakdown? That's true, yeah. He's annoyingly good, isn't he? They don't need to be less passionate. No, because you were passionate on the one you got me with as well. It is just the most mental story and I can't see a normal brain thinking of that. No. There was a bit of me thinking, maybe he's not normal. Right. We have another one. I am going to quickly go for a piss because I'm bursting.

52:22Okay. You need to stop being so fucking good. Okay. I'll try and get the next one wrong. It is hard, you know. Next one, I'll say the opposite and I'll then get it right just because you've actually had me. right danny next one i once had a samurai lesson from steve aoki would you like to be wow would you like to be enlightened on steve aoki or you know steve a dj man big dj guy throws cakes at people yes he does okay that's my knowledge of him yep that's all you need to know okay steve aoki um you had a samurai is he a samurai nah but he was pretty fucking good at it he was pretty good at it I feel like the laws of samurai should mean a non actual samurai should be allowed to teach the ways of samurai shouldn't be I think it's like religious I think you can just do it no I know you can just do it I did it I did it what do you want context where was it Saudi Arabia okay didn't expect that did you no I thought Vegas not quite Brixton oh Vegas he's always in Vegas isn't he is he yeah don't know why was he why were you both in Saudi money no we was attending the esports world cup okay is he big in esports is he nah or was he just DJing he was just DJing okay talk me through the lesson it was a weird one I don't know we just can't add No, we didn't even have...

53:59No, we did. Yes, we did have swords. We did have swords at the very end. Fake swords. Yeah. Yeah, because it was at like a convention, so that could have been... Or wooden swords? Like, what were they made of? No, they weren't... I don't know what... I think they were real. I think they were real. So you and Steve Aoki were flinging katana, like metal, sharp... No, they couldn't have been. You make a good point. No, I can't remember. No, they were probably wooden. They were wooden. What did they look like? Swords, innit? Yeah, but were they metal or wooden? Was it wood or metal? Did your sword connect with his sword at any point?

54:43Oh yeah. Many times. Yeah. What was the noise? No, it was! It was metal! It was metal! That feels... Who was giving you metal swords? It was metal. It was... It looked... It felt... It was heavy. Right. It was heavy because I remember I couldn't... Who legally... I know Saudi are weird on some of their things. Laws. Who legally is giving you a metal sword to play with? They have loads of swords there. What? Well, if anyone steps out of line... Okay. Who's your fancy? So go. Okay. One more context. Yes, please. Talk me through... So what's he teaching you? Because you said you've had a lesson. Here's the thing, Stevie You're really struggling on this one, aren't you?

55:27No, no, no I didn't have a He wasn't the teacher What? Oh, did it say from? No, it's just with Steve Aoki Can you just read that again? So he was the He wasn't the teacher No, he wasn't the teacher You've been doing so well No, Stevie He wasn't the teacher But he When we had When we had to Do the sword thing This is making me sound like a lie when we did the sword thing i did it with steve aoki so that point that's why it said from but jack is also known to change the words and rephrase things oh i don't change the context of it though the context is still real it's just reworded speaking of real things yeah this one isn't is it you are you have either completely butchered your own story and it is ask for more ask for more what else can i ask mate you're telling a fucking lie you don't even know why we're in south you don't know why you're there yes i do you're an esports event but you don't I don't know how it came up.

56:23Jack Smith, probably. Jack Smith was there. Jack Smith was there. Right, Stevie, is it true for is it a lie? No, it's a lie. Danny, is it true that you once had a samurai lesson from Steve Aoki? It's true. Oh, he's a cunt. It's true. But I don't remember. It was ages ago. You prick. It's true. I didn't say anything wrong. No, you played that perfectly. You said everything wrong. How? What did I say? Because I can't remember if it was wooden or... That is mental. I'm sorry. You're flinging a sword about. Oh, you got a photo? I hope so. How many times have you held a sword in your life? Every night.

56:58I knew that was coming as soon as you asked. All right, they were wooden. Oh, you can't picture. Does that make me less... Oh my God, it's so blatantly wooden as well. I can't remember. Look how funny you look there as well. I can't remember. That's Ice X FIFA, that is. It's not Danny Aaron's, that's Ice X FIFA. Oh, I feel like I'm Danny Aaron's. No, you smashed it. You got the point. I lied and said it was metal. No, you're fine. You kept flip-flopping. Also, just now that Jack said that, what are you trying to do, a play on words with Ice X FIFA? Because it does sound like you're saying Ice X FIFA.

57:32Like you're fucking your disc. No, I turned it into just Ice X, but then it was just Ice X. And you didn't. I did not. Okay. Ready for another one? Fucking hell. It's half a minute. Right, so it's four. The punch of the desk. I will say as well, the punch of the desk was good because that felt like you were going. Passionate. Oh, my lies come out. The listeners are absolutely hating it, the punching. Yeah, a lot of banging in this episode. No, we like it. We like it. Is that why you don't have a table at your pod? Yeah. Can't trust myself. I'll keep my hands on myself. You're smashing it. Right, 3-2.

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59:22My party trick is knowing the middle name and birthdays of every Spurs player in the last five or six years. That's so difficult for you, but I'm not allowed to get my phone out to check this. Quiz me. Quiz me. Harry Kane. What do I know? The middle name. The middle. Harry. You've given him such a hard one! I just have to think. Harry Arnold Kane and his birthday is May 17th. I don't know years. My formula doesn't allow years. If I'm lying about May the 17th, I could just say May the 17th, 1999. Except you couldn't because I know Harry Kane's around my age. So obviously it would have been 1984.

1:00:14Is this through FIFA? Do you get this knowledge through FIFA? Well, it's mainly, it started from career mode on FIFA. Right. Then it's transcended to football manager. And now it's just kind of like a thing. Right. Okay, so this started five years ago. You thought, what was the moment where you went? No, it didn't start five years ago. Said for the last five years. No, no. In the last five years, I can name any Spurs player from five years from now. So when did you start learning them all? Two years. And you just thought, I'll go back for five years. So players that left. I have from 2020. Okay.

1:00:55Aldervireld. Aldervireld? Toby Aldervireld. Right. Now we're talking. Forgot his name. Do you actually know this or not? He's a weird one. He is a weird one. Why? He hasn't got a middle name. Okay. But he was born... later side of the year. He was born in August. August... You'll have to check these because if it's not true it's gonna sound shit. August 24th. Okay. Hsungmin Sun. Easy. Hsungmin Sun. Sun Hsungmin. He ain't good though. Hsungmin Sun Sun Hsungmin. April 29th. Okay. Hugo Lloris. Now I like these. These are easier. Hugo. Hugo Lloris doesn't have a middle name. Okay. He does have a middle name.

1:01:54But he was born. Not to say genuinely the other ones aren't genuine. He was genuinely born February the 14th. Because he was born on Valentine's Day. Eric Dyer. Oh. Eric Steve Dyer. Steve. December. no it's not Steve it's not Steve fuck I'm thinking about the other Englishman sorry Eric the other if this is true this is really fucking weird yeah I can't remember it's some Portuguese name I can't remember it's some Diago or you know Schwao Diago okay he was born in Portugal he lived in Portugal yeah yeah that's fine and December somewhere in December he's a Christmas boy Danny Rose did you go back that far no god no Stevie when do you think he last played football I don't know mate he's ancient No one cares about the Spurs.

1:02:42He's ancient. What about Richarlison? Do you know it? What's his first name? Richarlison? His name is Richarlison Richarlison? No, it's Edson. Edson Richarlison. I can't even say it. Edson Richarlison. No, no, it's Richarlison Edson Jr. or something. Bethany?

1:03:09May I say I don't know? Is that allowed? Yeah. I can't remember. So you don't know every, every player. I'd like to think I do. Right. But maybe not on the spot. Maybe not on the spot when loads of cameras are in. Okay. It's a party trick. Do you know? Didn't think you'd get this fucking serious. Only if you got Google. What about Dele Alli? He played for MK Don. Okay. I think you've absolutely stitched him up here. We need his middle name.

1:03:40He's just called Deli. You don't like the alley part. It's just Deli. Right, Steve, if you think you're ready. Well, you've absolutely stitched him up because this one just required him having to be able to say things straight away. And he's heavily struggled. So I have to say it's a lie. And he can't even, even if he thinks it's true, it's not. So a lie has to be correct, no matter what. Danny, can you name every Tottenham player's middle name and birth? He can't name their first name. No, man. That's hard. That was hard. That's so hard. 4-2, 4-2. In the last fight, you could have just said this squad.

1:04:14I would have got away with it. I know, I'm sorry. Five years. Right, ready for another one. I kind of want to get the next two wrong just to set up a 4-4 finale. I turned down having my own skin in Fortnite for a silly reason. Okay, when did they offer you the skin? This was Prime. This was episode three. Okay. Episode three. Do you play Fortnite? I was streaming it every day. Really? Every day. I mean, I'm not quite ninja. I had my highest numbers outside. Sorry. You're laughing at that? No, just turned the wrong way. It's okay. I had the most viewers I had on stream outside of FIFA. Do you know what I mean?

1:04:53So it didn't peak FIFA, but it was there. Are you decent at Fortnite? I used to be before the Giga Chads took over. Giga Chads aren't playing Fortnite. Oh, yes, they are. Are they? Oh, yes, they are. That's what you want to believe. It's six-year-olds. No, no, no, no, no, no. Fortnite, there's lots of looks maxes. Jack plays Fortnite. Yeah, I love it. Giga Chad. I've maxed this look, can I? Yeah. I can't get better. Yeah. Okay, so we're saying, what was the lie? What was the truth? I once played, I had a Fortnite skin offer, but I said nah. So what was the silly reason you said no? Hear me out here.

1:05:35they didn't want me to have a skin in terms of you see like speed in that they're just speed yeah they wanted me to be a massive pink tedly bear tedly teddy bear is it not tedly teddy teddy bear hold on you big old fucking teddy bear got a baby yeah you think it's a teddy bear is it not a teddy bear yeah hold on i can't get past that you've lived your whole life thinking it's Teddly bear. Did I say Teddly bear? It's very cute. It's really, really cute. Teddly. Besides the point, Stevie, there's a teddy bear skin. Right, here's how it started. I did a meme. No, I didn't do a meme. I did a video that was like the top 10 most try-hard skins in Fortnite.

1:06:17It went massive. It went viral. And the number one skin was this massive pink teddy bear. Yeah. And I just got the piss out of everywhere. It went viral on TikTok because I said it was really cute. I said it was a really cute skin and people just... I was like, do you know Jack Doherty? Yeah. I was like the Jack Doherty of Fortnite for a couple... Not lucky, maybe like six months. Right. But no one knows it was me because I didn't... Do you know what I mean? What, you were just doing voiceovers? No, no, no. Oh, God, I was there. Right. But it was... So how do Fortnite contact you here? Is it Epic Games back then, yeah?

1:06:54Jack Smith. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. This was just me. This was, I had my own, I was doing everything. This was what, 20, it would have been a year before Jack. So I was just doing my own things. Epic Games comes through, emails me. We really liked this meme. It was a time where, this is testing you. You know, the Orange Justice one. Yeah. That got in because it was a massive meme. Yeah. So they were kind of doing that vibe with me. And I said, you know what? I ain't a fucking meme. What did they offer? That ain't a fucking meme. Am I right? Yeah, fair enough. I'm not a fucking meme. I took it.

1:07:31I've seen the video of you dancing. You literally are a meme, but true. What did they offer you? Nothing. Well, no upfront money. Oh. No, no, no, no, no, no. They said, this is right. I don't know if this is the part that you're referring to silly. Because I never fucking said silly. Right? I just said passionate. Anyway, they offered me no, nothing apart from like commission off the sale. but they own a hundred percent of my image rights. What? So how would it have been you? Because you said it was a Tedly bear. A Tedly bear. They had me in like a mask. They had my like face. They didn't, they said this was the idea is - You are a meme.

1:08:19They had, they basically said, we want to put you in the Tedly bear. We want to put you in the teddy bear. we want to put you in the teddy bear it's the Danny Aaron's face and then the teddy bear is in the app they never sent me a mock-up couldn't they have they didn't go to that level couldn't they have just uploaded that exact skin without you yeah but it's the meme it's the meme yeah it's the you're not you're not respect I was fucking everywhere on TikTok every your your kid would have been five years old yeah he would have seen it he would have seen it without the internet it would have made his way into his circle trust me it was everywhere so what all you've said is the teddy bear's cute we'll have to play it after this we'll have to play it because it just what color was the bear pink pink but then they already had a pink bear that you said was cute so what's the point in a secondary they were doing like i don't know what it's called like i'm gonna use a ufc game term an alter ego right it was like that one like how keely has loads of different versions whatever that is is this the big pink bear with like the white belly the cute one yeah i've seen that bear yeah i know the bear i know the og bear but obviously they didn't do a secondary i said no right i'm gonna have to push you for an answer stevie it just can't be true get it it just can't be true i can't imagine you'd get an offer like that back then and if you did you definitely wouldn't turn it down then nah nah you wouldn't turn it down there's just 100 the image rights actually i forgot about that bit because that is mental go on look you're answering i think he's double i'm gonna say true and you're double bluffing me danny is it true did you once turn down having your own fortnight skin what the fuck you did it man how have you said true i don't No.

1:10:11You were so close. What? I got in my own head. Oh, wow. I got in my own head. You've shagged me with that. I know. I mean, like Ninja and Speed get that. Danny Aaron. Yeah, you smashed it. You smashed it. No, but there's loads of people on Fortnite I've never heard of. Yeah, but not in 2023. Right. Ali A got one then. I'm not Ali A. Are you not bigger than Ali A? I don't know Ali A. It's Fortnite royalty. Like Mount Rushmore. So it's 4-3. Yeah. Right. and there's two more to go. I actually have three things on my list still. So Stevie, I'm going to let you pick the number at random, right? So do you want to pick A, B or C?

1:10:52You said the number. So I'll take three. Three, okay. So it's the one at the bottom of the sheet. That's smart, that. That's fucking smart. God, Jack, don't let that happen. Why? Don't let that happen. What? I know exactly what you've just fucking done. What? What have I done? I've written another truth when I came in. I've changed the order. Don't worry.

1:11:12Let's go for this one. I was wondering what I'd done then. I didn't realise. Three years ago, I owned a pet snake for only a month, which I called Calix. Okay, what type of snake was it? Razorback. What? Was it a razorback or something? Razorback, yeah. Big one. I don't know. It was a big green one. Okay. Sorry. It was a big green one But on his throat It was like What's the I don't want to be rude There's a condition that people get Fat? No Michael Jackson had it Alopecia Alopecia is losing your hair I know what you mean It's with the pigment in the skin Yeah basically Calyx's throat was a different colour Okay.

1:12:08And I... Oh, God. I shouldn't be saying. The reason I called... Do you want to know? Yeah, I want to know why you called it Calox. Because his throat was a different colour and I associated that with cancer and Calox had cancer. Just don't worry.

1:12:25I thought it was because you were just calling him a snake for some reason. No, I love the bloke. He's great, but he had cancer. Okay. Can you talk me through your month with Calox? horror fucking horror what was so bad I'm scared of snakes why'd you get it because I thought it would be sick like having a fucking snake I went round Brent Allen's house and he had a snake I don't know who Brent Allen is he's like my childhood friend but the only one I've stayed in contact with right saying full name sorry Brent because you didn't know innit it would be nice for him like oh like Danny do you know what I mean Danny spoke about me so he had a I went round his house yeah after we went Braintree Town yeah because I used to go all the time back in the day um Went to his house Bro's got a fucking snake I said that's sick How do I get one?

1:13:08Yeah He said this out Like he had a family friend Or whatever Uncle Of course he fucking was an uncle And he lived in Whittam Okay 15 minute drive Yeah Got my dad Said mate We're going to fucking Whittam Got a snake How long ago was this? 2023 Okay Just quickly testing you Because you did say three years ago earlier So 2023 Well played How did you feed the snake? look I'm gonna be so honest I did nothing okay I didn't know I didn't starve it I didn't starve it yeah I got my dad to help okay talk me through your dad similar to what I did with my dog okay you would have watched your dad feed that snake at least once he kind of got like there was like this brown packet but he we we were like okay we're end game here yeah so we brought a massive fucking bag like a couple kg not maybe not happy we bought a massive bag it was brown it had red It had like a red square box on it.

1:14:01Snake.

1:14:06And he would like scoop out. He'd get a scoop, put it down on the floor. They'd eat it off the floor. What is it? It was like kibble. It was like generally like feeding like the rabbit. Don't you feed snake like frozen mice? No, no, no, no. You can feed it live, live. Well, because what's the fun if it's dead already? Well, kibble's dead. It's not real. it's not like it's not like i think they'd be happy with a mouse dead or alive i wouldn't how would i source a mouse from the snake from the pet shop they would be selling mice as pets not as food i'm pretty sure you can buy snake food like i don't mate i had a massive bag of kibble he this was funny he had in his in his room which i'll be honest was just my room but You know the water dispensers that hamsters use?

1:14:58The ones with a little store? Snakes aren't using them. Hear me out. They had the tiniest one, but it was a different shape. You fucked this. Huh? Nothing. It was a different shape. Yeah. It was green at the bottom with white like... What's the same shape? Just different colours? No, no. No, the shape was like this. Oh, like a little bowl? Yeah. But then it made no sense because there was still a straw. Okay. The snake's just putting this little tongue in it, is it? I never saw him use it. I literally never saw him use it. How'd you get rid of a snake? Gave it back to Brent Allen. It wasn't his.

1:15:33No, but I was like, I don't fucking like this anymore. He went, I'll have it. How big was the tank? Like, I had a very small room. So probably like... A massive tank. Massive tank. It was a whole... No, it was like... But you said the snake was huge. I mean, I was being boisterous. I wanted to seem like I've got a bigger snake, you know? Eva, I know absolutely nothing about snakes because I didn't even know you could feed a snake kibble. It was snake kibble. They're not getting kibble in the wild, are they? Snake kibble. I had a friend who had a snake and he had to feed it. Brent Allen! He had to feed it mice.

1:16:16I don't have access to mice. It's fine. You do? It's fine. People do it. It's fine. Okay. I just have to say this is a lie because the information on snakes feels so wrong. I could be, I don't know enough about snakes, but... You're looking at him? Kibble feels mental. Snake kibble is not a thing, surely. Lock it in. He's a liar. Danny, is it true, three years ago, did you own a pet snake for a month that you called Kallax? It was a lie. I thought the hard part was going to be how I named it Kallax. I fucking smashed that. That old cancer shit. Yeah. I don't know snakes. I breezed past that. I don't know snakes.

1:16:54That was the issue. And also, I didn't know if Jack was trying to double bluff me by going, you fucked this halfway through. That helped. Yeah, that was a piss thing. What? Saying I fucked it. You know the answer. You know what? I forgot I knew the answer. You know what? I'm going to wipe that one off. I'm going to say that one doesn't count. Because Jack saying that. Victory. No. Victory. No. Not what I said. Not what I said. I think we keep it at 4-2. 4-2. Or was it 4-3? I can't remember. It was 4-3, no? Thank you. Keep it at 4-3. All right. And we do another. And if you can equalize, then we'll do one more.

1:17:34You're winning 4-3? Yeah. Fuck. I should have won there. You should have. But I think Jack saying that gave me the edge I needed. It definitely didn't, but I'll take it. I'll take it. Right. Okay. So the last... Right. If Danny gets this, it makes it 4-4. Sets up the last leg. Yeah. If you get this right, game over. Yeah, cool. Final chance. Read that for me, Danny. Louis Verroux once threatened to call the police on me. Have you met Louis Verroux? Let me think.

1:18:14No. What just happened? No. Never met him. Okay, so how have you ended up in a situation where he'd think, I need to call the police on Danny Arons? I don't know if this is smart bringing it back to life.

1:18:32Look, he did a documentary, which I'm sure we're all aware of. Yeah, yeah. He's done quite a few, mate. No, but one. What one? What one? Oh, come on. What? Jimmy fucking Savile! Oh, right. Hello! How was that the whole thing? Jimmy Savile! Oh, how was the biggest nonce of all time? Second, second. He did a documentary with Jimmy Savile. Yeah, with or on? On Jimmy, but he was with him. Yeah, he's with him. I've not seen it. And I reacted to the whole thing on stream. Yeah. And I had my fair share. I'll be honest with you. I think Jimmy Savile's a nonce. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. No, no, it's not fine.

1:19:15No, genuinely, no, sorry. That's, we know. But I don't know. I was watching it and kind of cussing out Louis Farouk. Because I'm like, you're fucking weird. I don't know. I remember watching it. One of the clips that kind of went, it was actually in the news. Not like global, but you had come up on the internet. One of it was like Danny Aaron's calls out incredible. Like they glazed him so much. It made me look like a dickhead. When was this? This was 2024. Okay. Two years. this was 2024 massive news articles whatever not massive news articles and I just I think he's a dickhead I'm sorry he's a national treasure that documentary I'm like I was saying a lot of shit like oh you're supporting Jimmy Savile you're giving him a platform yeah and people it went semi viral but for the wrong reason everyone was kind of shitting on me talk me through the moment you found out he's trying to call the police on you.

1:20:18Guess who's popping up? Jack Smith. Jack Smith. Right. But not really, like, I know, I knew it was something different because Jack Smith called me and said, alright, mate, I need to add someone else to this call. And I'm like, Louis Verroux? No. He added a lawyer. He added like, the agency's lawyers. Right. And he was like, you know what, mate? We've had this, we've had this email or something. We've had like a note, whatever. someone from Louis Theroux's team so not directly but someone from Louis Theroux's team is saying delete all of this now, delete it all or there will be further action.

1:20:56Okay so he hasn't the sentence is poor it's not calling the police on you you've been threatened with a lawsuit from Louis Theroux's team is that over the comments you made about Louis Theroux and not the copyright elements of it? No, no, no it was definitely the comments because there was like news articles saying it's nothing to do with copyright Twitch were loving it Twitch it was banging tell me a few things you said about Louis he's enabling a pedophile he's friends with a pedophile how old is this documentary ages fucking years 20 years old Jimmy Savile is dead yeah I know and you're saying this stuff three two years ago yeah well you react to it on stream well I did I reacted to a lot of weird shit I reacted to a lot of weird shit that was quite tame oh fucking hell Jimmy Savile's been known to be tame right Stevie, I'm going to have to press you for an answer here mate it just can't be true I think you'd like Louis Theroux I feel like you come across as someone who'd like a little documentary I love a documentary I love a Piers Morgan documentary I fucking hate him so you like Piers Morgan?

1:22:05no I fucking hate him I fucking hate him does Piers Morgan do documentaries? He did one on a serial killer. Yeah, he's done loads. He's done loads. He did watch. He's done one with Ronaldo. Yeah. No, that was an interview. Same thing. Do you know what documentary is? Yeah, watch one. Let me see. Ronaldo. It has to be a lie. Right. Locking in lie, yeah? Yeah. Okay. Danny, did Louis Farouk once threaten to call the police on you? No, he didn't, man. I'm shit. No, you're good. I fumbled at the end. No, you are genuinely good. I think he was just on form. I think you were just harsh towards Louis Theroux.

1:22:44And I think you were just struggling to say, yeah. I had a feeling you would. I had a feeling you would. Oh, do you know what? I so wanted you to win. You said you weren't a good liar. You were good. No, you did really well. No, you were good. I felt uncomfortable. No, you were, you were fully in performance mode. I like it. No, you smashed it. Thanks boys. Oh, I'm so, I get so annoyed when you win. I didn't even want to win. I'm going to get someone. I even tried to give an opportunity for me not to win. Is there anything I do that give it away? I must do. No, I tried not to even look at you during that.

1:23:18Well, you did say, oh, you fucked this. Yeah, that one gave it away, mate. Yeah, but I'm trying to build you a point. I'm getting you a point there, aren't I? No, because you've given me the answer. Well, no, you've actually done the opposite. You confirmed it was fate. Try not doing that. Right. Bit of advice. And then also don't do ones that are almost impossible for him to do, like the Spurs player one. No, that's good That is good I just fucked it If he pulled that out the bag If it had gone to you Jan Vertonghen He went Jan Average Vertonghen But then You have to explain how Yeah No, your explanation To how was good Oh, for fuck's sake Your FIFA and football manager stuff Was good The issue was not knowing I could have just Did random shit Yeah, you could have You can leave here today If your head held high, Danny Aaron You can Thanks, guys There we go This has been Jack Makes Happy Hour Podcast With me, Jack Makes Stevie White who is I think the reigning champ of Would You Lie To Me?

1:24:09and the fifth appearance, Danny Aarons best yet thank you cheers Danny thank you sir will 10 listen to this one? I will force her against her will

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