642 - RED RICHARDSON - LooksMaxxing, Nearly Cast As Harry Potter, & Caught In A Terrorist Attack!

19 Mar 2026 · 1 h 21 min · 34 chapters

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In short

Red Richardson (comedian/actor/podcaster) discusses his name and “looks-maxxing/frame-mogging,” football’s lost “characters” (old-school out-of-shape number 10s), internet subcultures, and a false-alarm “terrorist attack” he experienced during a delivery job. He also covers chicken-keeping hypotheticals, finger “liquids,” time-travel event choices, and his near-miss with Harry Potter casting.

Guest backgrounds

Red Richardson grew up in Camberwell, moved to Totnes (Devon) at age 10, and did “shit jobs” including dishwashing, laboring, temp office data entry, and door-to-door flower subscriptions. He started stand-up in 2014, went full-time in 2019, and has a podcast he says he hates. He was recommended by Ricky Gervais and has appeared on Jackmates Happy Hour before.

Key claims

He was nearly cast for Harry Potter as a child (brown-hair casting; recalled but not final-three), and he once hid under a table during a stampede-like false alarm after reports of a gun. He argues modern football is too clinical and social media/media training has changed players’ looks and personalities.

Notable examples

Craig Bellamy allegedly watched a fight at Caesars Palace; Olly Murs live-tweeted “ISIS are on the rampage” during the London chaos; he tells a story about a wooden panel falling on Stevie’s head at a Just Eat event; he criticizes Brooklyn Beckham’s cooking videos and “platform for nothing.”

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Red's Unique Name and Background

2:15 to 6:20

Discussion about Red Richardson's name origin and his career beginnings.

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The Hall of Fame: Badly Behaved Footballers

6:20 to 12:46

Red discusses memorable footballers and the need for more character in sports.

“I would say, with football, I'd say, you remember the old school number 10s, who were out of shape, but would score the sickest goal you've ever seen once every two months, get sent off all the time.”

Quickfire Questions with Red

12:46 to 14:01

A series of humorous questions to get to know Red better.

“we say these are quick fire, they're never quick fire but we've got some questions to get to know.”

Animal Cruelty Discussion

14:01 to 14:49

A humorous conversation about the ethics of farming and animal care.

“You said they're not having a good life.”

Liquid Finger Taps

14:49 to 16:41

A funny hypothetical discussion about what liquids to dispense from fingers.

“Maybe a madri, you know Okay, nice Yeah, choice And then I would have tequila from this one Fuck Yeah, just to follow up the madri And then jizz from my little finger What's your thought about that one?”

Historical Event Choices

16:41 to 17:52

The hosts discuss the historical events they would like to witness.

“I think, no, I tell you what, Ali Frazier through in Manila would be great.”

Red's Terrorist Attack Experience

17:52 to 19:49

Red shares a chaotic personal experience during a false alarm terrorist incident.

“My argument for that is, right, you might see that in the future.”

The Aftermath of Chaos

19:49 to 22:28

Exploration of Red's experience during the chaotic event and its aftermath.

“Mark's a street, and it was, I came out of a shop, and people were just running down the street, like thousands of people.”

Funny Anecdotes and Observations

22:28 to 26:30

Sharing of amusing stories and experiences from past events.

“And it's pretty, it's an ugly side of humanity.”

Funny Anecdotes and Observations

28:03 to 28:14

Sharing of amusing stories and experiences from past events.

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Introduction to Red Richardson

28:16 to 28:45

Meet comedian Red Richardson and the show's lively atmosphere.

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Brooklyn Beckham's Cooking Skills

28:45 to 29:57

A humorous discussion about Brooklyn Beckham's culinary abilities.

“People are coming to see Red Richardson live.”

Life in a Hippie Town

29:57 to 31:18

Red shares his experiences growing up in Totnes, a hippie town.

“There's a guy on, this is how niche it gets, but there's a guy on TikTok whose whole thing is reacting to Brooklyn Beckham's cooking videos.”

The Flaws in Alternative Education

31:18 to 35:02

A critique of unconventional schooling and its impacts on children.

“Because he thought I'm going to put it in the ocean and he thought it would be quite cool, it's salty.”

Red's Mischievous School Days

35:02 to 37:09

Red recounts his naughty antics and experiences during school.

“Yeah, and the students got voted in and stuff.”

Auditioning for Harry Potter

37:09 to 38:38

Red shares his experience auditioning for the role of Harry Potter.

“I don't know if this is true or not, but sometimes these articles let me down.”

Life After Harry Potter Auditions

38:38 to 42:00

Discussion on the impact of early auditions and Red's journey in comedy.

“What did you have to do when you went in?”

Red's Early Work Experiences

42:00 to 45:04

Discover Red's various jobs before becoming a stand-up comedian.

“So we know you're now a fully-fledged stand-up.”

The Journey to Stand-Up Comedy

45:04 to 48:10

Learn about Red's transition from various jobs to pursuing stand-up full-time.

“No, it took me, I was doing jobs until, so that was seven years of stand-up before I went full-time, I'd say.”

Influences and Inspirations

48:10 to 50:38

Explore Red's early inspirations and his views on the comedy lifestyle.

“Because when did you kind of know you were funny?”

The First Gig Experience

50:38 to 52:59

Hear about the challenges and fears Red faced during his first stand-up gig.

“And, you know, I'd much rather mess around.”

The Realities of Stand-Up Comedy

54:46 to 56:00

Red discusses the realities of stand-up comedy and the importance of resilience.

“I mean, let's say, you know, since the age of 11 or 12.”

The First Gig Experience

56:00 to 57:30

Hear about the challenges and emotions of performing stand-up for the first time.

“I remember getting up and it was just like, it was honestly like fucking, this is, I felt like I was on trial.”

What Makes a Good Comedian?

57:30 to 58:30

Explore the essential traits that contribute to a successful stand-up comedian.

“Like it was looking back, realising if anyone's listening and thinking of starting stand-up, it matters so little, that first one.”

Competitive Comedy Landscape

58:30 to 1:00:40

Learn about the significance of competitions in a comedian's career and the pressures they bring.

“And like, I remember, I had to look back, I remember thinking I killed my first gig.”

Turning Point in Career

1:00:40 to 1:04:00

Discover the realizations that changed the perspective on success and failure in comedy.

“what is that competition how big is that That was, I mean, that was the big, that was, I don't know how much it means now because the internet's just taken everything.”

Working with Ricky Gervais

1:05:01 to 1:07:08

A humorous recounting of how Red got the opportunity to work with his comedy hero.

“How did it come to be that you, because you've started working with Ricky, doing a lot of live shows with Ricky, who I think we've both said during this interview is a comedy hero of ours.”

The Nature of Fame and Criticism

1:07:08 to 1:09:50

Discuss the challenges of fame and the nature of public criticism in comedy.

“Why do you think anyone who's massively successful?”

The Challenges of Touring

1:09:50 to 1:12:06

An insight into the emotional and professional challenges faced while touring.

“Because I've got a kid, one tomorrow, and I'll be on my phone and she's like, actually, get off it.”

Comparing UK and US Audiences

1:12:06 to 1:13:20

Explore the similarities and differences between comedy audiences in the UK and the US.

“but there was one guy like three rows from the back or whatever and he was doing he sort of was doing that the whole time.”

Navigating Cultural References

1:13:20 to 1:14:24

Understand how cultural references can affect the reception of comedy material in different countries.

“Do you have to, do you change any of your material when you do it over there?”

A Comedian's Anecdotes

1:14:24 to 1:18:36

Listen to humorous anecdotes about strange experiences and interactions with fellow comedians.

“And I say like, could you give me like a list of anecdotes that like maybe I won't find when I research you that we can talk about?”

The Story of a Stolen Car

1:18:36 to 1:20:24

Hear a thrilling tale about a friend’s stolen car and the unexpected adventure to retrieve it.

“But it was the anniversary two days ago, and he put up a post about it and you just messaged him and go, oh, we could talk about that.”

Reflections on Life and Purpose

1:20:24 to 1:21:24

Reflect on the philosophical insights shared about the meaning of life and usefulness.

“my podcast whatever Red Talks and Bugatti Live is my comedy special watch that it's on YouTube Red Richardson Comedy are you touring anytime soon?”
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0:00Yes, we're back again and we've got yet another comedian on the podcast. They're always the best, aren't they? Well, it's because they're funny. Yeah, it's annoying because this comedian that we have on the show today not only out-funnyed us, as you'd expect, but also looks-maxed us quite a bit. Yeah, he was frame-mogging. Yeah, he frame-mogged us bad. I didn't even know what that meant until about two hours ago and now I do and I feel bad for it. But today on the show is Red Richardson, a stand-up comedian who has his own podcast that he actually fucking hates. Yeah, he said he was actually going to cancel and quit doing it today.

0:33He's one of the most, like, weirdly, like, honest comedians we've had in, because he's honest about all the lies that he's told. Do you know what I mean? He said, like, well, you'll find out some of the stuff that he's lied about in his career. But I found him very, very funny. It's like such a unique man. We were recommended him by Ricky Gervais, weren't we? Yep, we've seen him live as well. Funny man, funny podcast guest, funny episode. Liar. Looks-maxer. Fraud. Harry Potter.

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2:28It's Red Richardson. Hello, mate. You want to clap yourself? Yeah, thanks for having me. Now, you don't know this. This is your second appearance on this podcast. Why is that? What's the...? Because we had Ricky on in December, and you interrupted the podcast. Oh, and Jonathan told me this. Yeah, Jonathan Poundman. Yeah, he said that, because he called me before he came on. And then I called, did you cut it out of the podcast? You keep in. Yeah. Because, yeah, apparently he was like, oh, Red's calling. But I was returning a call. Oh, right. Okay. Okay. So is Red your real name? Red's my real name.

3:04Not short for anything. Yeah. Where's that come from? It was named after a cowboy movie, Clint Eastwood film. There was a, well, the day I was born, my mum and dad got back from the hospital and put on a cowboy film or that was just on TV for a few dollars more I think it's called and there was a character called Red in it. That's a cool name. Yeah. And he gets beaten up. He's in it for like five seconds because he just kicks the shit out of him. He's a drunk. He loses a card game. He tries to kill Clint or whatever. And your parents went our beautiful lady boy. That's who he is, yeah. Did they not have an idea what they wanted to call you before?

3:35They were going to call me William. I was William for half a day and then they went actually let's call him Red. And then so I've had it similar, isn't it? Yeah. No, it's not remote. It's a great name with Richardson as well. Yeah, William Richardson doesn't work as well. Well, now it's time for a game called Ready Red, Red or Not Red. Okay. I have no idea what just happened. I'm going to give you a list of eight things, and I need you to tell me, are they red or are they not red? Right, first up, Hong Kong taxis. Are they red or not red? Not red. What colour do you think they are? Yellow. No, they're red.

4:11Okay. Good start. The hibiscus plant. That's purple, isn't it? I don't know. Not red. It is red. Oh, for fuck's sake. Can I just say as well, you actually came in a red hoodie. Yeah. Is that your thing? No. I've just got a red hoodie. I forget. People go, oh, that's what you need. No, it's just one of the four sort of colours that you can buy. And I just sometimes wear it and I forget. And then it goes, oh, I wear it on stage. I used to have a joke about my name. and go, my name's Red, and they'd think I would have gone, oh, wear this to really... Hammer at home. Yeah. Do you now avoid getting things red if it comes into your head?

4:50Yeah, because it looks like you're trying to... You're trying too hard to make all that guy. But if your name's Mike, you don't not use the microphone. You know what I mean? It's sort of, yeah. I don't know. Okay, Cheltenham Town FC's kit. Red. It is red, okay. The Poison Dart Frog. I'm sure there's a red one of them. I'm sure there's a... Yeah, I'm going to say that as a politician. That's actually bang on. There's a load of them, but the one is red. The blood orange. That is, I know what you're doing here. Right. But that is, there's a form of red and orange. It's really just red in my skull.

5:27That is red. The planet Mars. That's red. Are these all red? No, that's orange, isn't it? It's not red. Fucking hell, what is it? It's like brown. Okay, yeah, yeah. Red cabbage. That's red. Not red. What is it? Why is it called red cabbage then? What's going on here? You're not accounting for tones. There's different types of reds as well. Yeah, that's my fault, really. I have so little work with it. You've been really binary with this. And my copy of Stephen Bartlett's Diary of a CEO book. Not read. That would be black, wouldn't it? I just mean I've not read it. Ah, OK. It's hard to be clever.

6:06You got me. Right, red, we always start with the same question. we want you to imagine a place called the Happy Hour Hall of Fame. You could submit any item into that that means something to you, can be a place, a person, a feeling, a thing. What would you like to put in there, Red Richardson? From the past it can be? What, something that you want to keep? Your rules. My rules. Something you want to keep. I would say, with football, I'd say, you remember the old school number 10s, who were out of shape, but would score the sickest goal you've ever seen once every two months, get sent off all the time.

6:43But you know how football now is just everyone is an athlete? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm just sort of sick of it. Remember like Matt Letizia and stuff like that? Where are those guys now? Yeah, yeah. My cousin Sonny, I don't think you'd mind me saying, he's a big lad, isn't he? He's a big lad. But he's going to bang the goal for Thetford Town. Those sorts of guys. So you've got nothing else on the pitch? No, no, no. I like De Canio. He was great. But like that sort of attitude. And, you know, we had those sort of stylish players. who were just so skillful, but they were kind of lazy as well and would sit and wait for the ball to come to them.

7:17There was a lot of attitude. I think we're missing characters in football. Maybe not the number 10, there's more characters in football. Yeah, we are. It's too clinical. Yeah, it's too clinical. Where's the Dan? The Mavericks. Headbutt someone in the 112th minute. In the World Cup final. In his last ever game for his country. What an amazing send-off. That's better than winning the cup. Yeah, yeah. It really is. And then, like, I mean, Zlatan, obviously not a number 10, but these sorts of guys, it feels like they're dying out. Balotelli, Cantona, Gaza. Did you mention Ducaneo? Did you notice that behind you there?

7:51No, I did not. Got a portrait of... Oh, I didn't even see that. Right. We often say this when this comes up. That's crazy. That was painted for me by Ian Holloway. Are you a West Ham fan? Yes. Ian Holloway, because he managed Plymouth for a bit as well. He did, yeah. Are you a Plymouth fan? No, I just lived in Devon for a while. I remember he was there. Who's your team? Arsenal. Fucking everyone's at Arsenal. Out of nowhere. Yeah. Suddenly good. Yeah, yeah. Well, I started in 98, stopped in 2004, and then I've just sort of come back this month. I always think as well, you know, like, it's funny when you see, like, there'll be guys who leave their wife and children and then they'd never leave their football team and they'd probably get a harder time down the pub for leaving their football team, you know?

8:39Yeah, yeah. But it's this kind of, I remember when City were buying everyone, I thought, why can the players move and we can't? Yeah, that's a good point. Because Arsenal weren't matching my ambition for quite some time. And I want to win trophies. You do get some like social media fans who swap based on player. They really just love a player and they'll just support whoever that player goes for. That I show speed fella. Oh, because of Ronaldo. He just goes wherever Ronaldo goes. He does. Yeah. He was at the Ballon d 'Or, wasn't he? And he started kicking off. I was like, what's he doing there?

9:10He's mad, isn't he? He is pretty fast. I'll give him that. I've seen him run. He raced a cheetah. Yeah, was that? That wasn't real. I think it was. It bit him. Did he jump over a car? Is that AI? I don't know what's going on. I'm too old now. I don't know what's going on. I think when it's him, I feel like it's real. Do you see the video? A car drove out and he jumped over? That can't be real. Look, I don't want to judge you because I've just met you and I think you're a lovely man. but I did not think you would know who I should be. I know what frame-mogging is. Frame-mogging? Do you not know that?

9:38Clavicular, the guy who hits himself in the face with a hammer. Danny Aarons is telling us about. Yeah, he looks amazing. He got frame-mogged by an ACU frat leader. What the fuck are you talking about? A guy with a better bod stood next to him, and it's all over the internet. Oh, so frame-mogging is he's taking the frame for himself? Yeah, and mogging. Basically, what he's doing is if you've got a better bod than someone you stand next to me, you're frame-mogging them. Okay. I think jester-maxing is when you out-charm someone. Right, okay. You're doing that to us right now. I'm trying to jester-max right now.

10:08How do you know about all this? Because I'm a fucking loser.

10:14No, there's just subcultures. It ends up in my own, like Tekashi 6ix9ine. I became obsessed with him for about three months, about six years ago. There's just stuff I shouldn't know that comes into my thing. I'm like, what is going on? And then you can't turn away. It's just everything I see now. Yeah. I saw a video, what was that, the Matthew McConaughey film where he gets stuck in the, what was it, and he's banging. There was a bit where he said someone cut Clavicchio getting frame marked, and he's like, don't stand next to him. And that becomes my feed for a while. I have always said on this podcast, I pretty much say on a weekly basis, I love the shit side of the internet.

10:49Yeah, that's why I adore it. Yeah. I don't watch anything. I don't watch comedy. I don't watch films. I just watch people getting frame marked. it's really bad right so what are we putting in I can't even remember oh I just I think let's say badly behaved footballers okay yeah the Mavericks Mavericks that's a great answer well do Kenyon remember when he sat on the side of the pitch yeah and that was did that sort of stuff he was begging Harry Redknapp to take him off yeah I interviewed him last year for West Ham it was a great moment for me and fucking hell like he doesn't care about what he says no well yeah he got a bit too with a few Nazi salutes at one point Maybe don't add that bit then.

11:26That can come out of the happy hour. Manly behaved footballers without the Nazis. Yeah. Minus fascism. Yeah, that. Remember they used to be like, I remember when Gazza first signed, we were going to go for one drink, suddenly he's driving the fucking team bus. Anyway, he scored a hat-trick in the second half. Is that sort of... Have you ever seen Jermaine Pennant talking about his Arsenal debut? Yeah. When he accidentally scored a hat-trick, he wanted to get taken off because he'd been out till 6am the night before. I just miss a bit of that. Everyone's kind of robotic. and you got right back to look like I remember Carl Walker I go he's massive for a footballer and that sort of seeped in way more they look like American footballers yeah and Ben White looks like he should be like a Topshop model yeah yeah media training's kind of ruined it as well hasn't it and social media smash up a club boys just once remember Gerrard punched the DJ because he wouldn't play Phil Collins bit more of that Craig Bellamy just takes the whole yeah yeah yeah my cousin said he was in Vegas once and he was down in the Caesars Palace in the reception area and there was a bloke kicking the shit out of another bloke and they all stood and watched it for about five minutes and it turns out it was Craig Bellamy.

12:29Yeah, I can't remember what beating the other guy up. Yeah, he's a weird bloke because apparently he gives millions to Sierra Leone for some reason. No one knows why that grabbed him but he's really behind that cause. Yeah. That's a great Hall of Fame answer. This is podcasting at its finest. Right, Red, we've got some, we say these are quick fire, they're never quick fire but we've got some questions to get to know. The man behind the comedian. Stevie, kick us off. If you got£1 ,000 for every chicken that you could keep alive and healthy in your actual house for a whole year, how many chickens would you think?

13:05Does it have to be inside, yeah? Yeah, inside. You get£1 ,000 per chicken, but you do have to have them in for the whole year. And how much would you feed them? Just grain? You just throw grain in? This is up to you. We can't tell you how to raise a chicken. Yeah, but I need to keep them alive. Well, you're getting£1 ,000. Grain and water. You know what? they wouldn't have a good life.

13:28But let's go with 40. Wow. We asked Ricky this question. We had to up the fee. Really? He's not looking after a chicken for a quid, is he? For a gram. No, no, no. So you reckon you do 40. What would they be in cages stacked? No, what I'd do is I wouldn't have a sitting room for a... Why wouldn't my TV room be out? I'd probably try and get a TV. I'd put a TV in the bedroom and I'd just get them in there, 40 in there, and then once a day, I'd slightly open the door, drain, close it. How are you cleaning the shit up? I'm not. You said they're not having a good life. They're not, no. They're sort of cramped on top of each other.

14:10But I'd worry if they were attacking each other. They would. And then if one dies, game over. That's a grand loss, but that's just part of the game, isn't it? Farmers deal with that all the time Right Yeah How would your wife feel about that? Should I just say Look this is£40 ,000 on the table Every day Is it every day you get it? If you got£1 ,000 for every chicken You could eat for a year Yeah It's not even that much money You've really sold yourself Also how would you sleep? They'd just be You'd have guests around You'd go It's this thing I'm doing It's a shit podcast It's an animal cruelty thing okay uh this one we ask a lot of people you might have even had this question before if you could dispense five liquids from your fingers unlimited for life and they were like became the taps of those okay what would you what would you have oh i would have iced coffee from my thumb okay very on brand you've come with a nice yeah water from my finger

15:17I'd have a lager from my middle finger Yeah, what are you going for? Maybe a madri, you know Okay, nice Yeah, choice And then I would have tequila from this one Fuck Yeah, just to follow up the madri And then jizz from my little finger What's your thought about that one? For my enemies Someone's pissing me off See, because I feel like you jizz on people you like No. No, it'd be very much an act of war. Nothing sexual about it. It's weird that you've picked a liquid that you already can do. Yeah, but then imagine sucking your thumb and it's Guinness. What was this one? That was iced coffee. Yeah, that was iced coffee, yeah.

16:04But I think Jack's focused on the jizz. Yeah, I'm talking about the jizz. Okay, what do you mean? You already have jizz, I imagine. Yeah, but then you've got to get out. That's a crime. you can't get your cock out on the bus. Someone's playing their phone out loud and you go, excuse me. But flicking jizz out your finger on someone. I imagine there's a crime. They'd have to rewrite the rule book. And then by the time they get to the court case, everyone's going, this guy can fucking jizz out of his finger. I'm the richest man in the world. I'm doing 20 nights in Vegas. Sold out. The incredible jizz boy.

16:37I've heard people call you that. if you could go back and witness any historical event throughout history you're there front and center which one would you pick oh well the thing is you don't pick a tragedy do you though it would i mean but but you might well you might watch it from sort of like educational purposes like imagine being there when the towers when i was gonna say 9-11 yeah um fucking hell what would it be we'd go from cheers fingers yeah I mean it depends what you fancy like it is a sort of there's all the classics like Woodstock and stuff what would be amazing seem like the Brazil 1970 team would be pretty amazing oh that's a good shout yeah because they don't want to I mean 9-11 would be the one but you're like I'm going to be cute when you're coming back in time just to watch yeah you're not going to stop it they're going excuse me they're going by the way I'm from the future.

17:31I knew this was happening. Don't worry. Why didn't you stop it? I think England 96-6 World Cup final. I think, no, I tell you what, Ali Frazier through in Manila would be great. Great. That would be the one. Great. That was, yeah. Wow. What would you go for, Stevie? I've never asked you. I don't know. I'd probably just go England World Cup. I'd be quite fine with it. My argument for that is, right, you might see that in the future. Yeah, but we say that every time. That's not happening, is it? Never. Do you not think? I think we get so close. The last two times, and I'm just going, fuck, I can't do this anymore.

18:10It's too depressing. Yeah. We get so close, and then it's penalties, and someone's like, oh, I'm going to fuck this one up. Also, the more we keep looking at our team and going, look how amazing we are, we're also ignoring the fact that every other country's also just getting amazing. We should have won the last two. Was it Italy? and Spain they were our chances yeah I think we definitely should have won Italy we threw that away yeah because they didn't even qualify for the next tournament yeah and we won their luck nice and early and then we just fucking sit back take Declan Rice off at half time there's always something it's just sort of but maybe I mean this this year we do have a chance yeah like and it'd be great to win in America yeah if it even goes ahead well that's the thing yeah but then who else is there Spain got a great team yeah France but Kane's so good like we got such a good team but then we should have won I saw I was watching on the way here just on YouTube shorts there was a thing of Mourinho talking about the England team in 2006 it was like I couldn't believe people like Carragher couldn't get in the team Ledley King couldn't get in the team so Campbell yeah and then Gerrard Scott like they played Skulls on the left wing you're mad innit you're mad yeah crazy why didn't we win they were all punching DJs in the club maybe that's not a good idea you've gone full circle on it already um you oh yeah this so this leads me into one of your question um one of your topics you were almost in a historical event weren't you what was that oh the what the terrorist attack yeah uh yeah yeah i specifically haven't told you about this ah i was in the fake um the fake terrorist attack of uh 2017 fake well no so it was a false alarm it was um basically i was on Mark's a street, and it was, I came out of a shop, and people were just running down the street, like thousands of people.

19:57And this woman, she came towards me, she was covered in blood, and she was like, run, and like covered in blood. She cut her face, and it was like, you know, but she'd obviously been knocked over in the stampede. Oh, right. But basically, there had been a fight. Two men had gotten in a fight, I think it was Tottencourt Road Station, on the tube, and someone had been like, I'm going to fucking shoot you or something. And someone went, he's got a gun. and then these Chinese whispers just, and it just erupted. And this was around when, like, I think London Bridge attacks had just happened, so everyone was on high alert.

20:26And it was just chaos. The helicopters, police, like, the whole place shut down for like an hour. But the funniest thing was Olly Murs was in the basement of H &M live tweeting the event, going, ISIS are on the rampage. He now, because he got such abuse for it, he thinks that ISIS did do an attack and the government covered it up. No, he doesn't. He just won't take the L, you know? Fair enough to him, you know? Where were you? I ran to the top of a building and hid under a table. But I was doing this job at the time, so I was doing this on-foot delivery thing. Right. So where, like, it was called Urbit.

21:04I think they went bankrupt. But it would be like Uber, but for twats who want, like, socks. So if, like, a banker's like, oh, I fucking spilled something on my shirt, can't be arsed to go to shop. you would kick a job and you'd go yeah and you're like I'll walk to the shop get the thing and deliver it to them and so you'd just walk around London all day every day it was great for stand up because you didn't have to see you didn't have a boss and kind of but I was doing that and I remember just fucking hiding under this table with some banker's socks oh you had the part well I just yeah I mean it was just like lying there but it was insane what did you think you were hiding from in that moment ISIS genuinely I thought this is you know really I feel like going to the top of a building doesn't feel like a good idea.

21:45Well, I thought, well, they've already done the planes, haven't they? And at the time, they were doing, it was sort of stabbing and shooting and driving into things. And so I thought, oh, they're on this street. And so I thought, if I get to the top of here. What shop were you in? I can't remember. It was fucking ages ago. It was, but yeah, it was chaos. But everything was like, I walked past a Pratt and they barricaded themselves in and weren't letting people in. so people would bang on the thing. People were just staring at the floor. Wow. Yeah. Because when I was researching Red, I found an article where he was talking about this and I went on Wikipedia and it has its own Wikipedia page, this thing.

22:25It was mad. So I saw not only what I would do, but what everyone else would do. And it's pretty, it's an ugly side of humanity. People are locking people out. Do you remember when I thought I was in that terror attack? When we were at that food event. We were at the Just Eat event. mate this is nothing you're actually like really in harm's way yeah but we was at some um just eat promotional night thing and you it was in the middle of like camden or somewhere like that and we're up on this rooftop and there's cocktails and you go up and get a bit of the food and try and i'm sitting there just talking in the in the peak of summer and then all of a sudden i just hear this bang and next thing i know i'm picking myself trying to pick myself up off like the table It was like pinned against the table.

23:09And what had actually happened was a justy advertising board had fell down and smashed me on the back of the head. But for like maybe three seconds, I thought a bum had gone off. I didn't know if I had legs. Yeah. I was just looking at you like, you all right? Because you'd seen it happen. Yeah, because I stood opposite you and this tape, this like wooden panel just fell on your head. Do you reckon I could have sued? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should have done. Fuck. They weren't proper nice to you after. Huh? They were well nice to you after. They made me basically just sign loads of stuff. Can I have one of these waters?

23:39Yeah, of course you can. Next one. What's the funniest thing, big or small, you think you've ever witnessed? Oh, let me have a think about that. Mine was watching the wooden plank fall on your head. Yeah, yeah, that does sound good. What's the funniest thing? That does sound good. actually I do a bit about it I don't stand up about it but I was in so I'm in when I lived I moved out but we lived in this block of flats there was like 72 people in it and there was a WhatsApp group for the whole block and this gay couple at this party so there's 72 people in the WhatsApp group and this guy who lived with his wife and kids messaged the group and was like this party's going on it was like a literally 9 o 'clock the next morning and he was like this is fucking disgrace the whole back and forth and the gay guy went you know it's a disgrace it's you messaging me on Grindr to say that I have a nice ass and you've been checking it out so the guy had messaged the gay guy she was a closeted gay guy with a wife and kid yeah and he then they put the screenshot or like he put a picture of the message in the WhatsApp group and it all just went and it was honestly I was just lying on the sofa all day just going this is the best day of my entire life well I don't understand a bit about it but yeah it was like that was unreal fucking unreal amazing what it was it was unbelievable it was just the drama was and it was real like they had they had actually he had message it was so clear and they split up that day like police were called no yeah because his son was like i'm gonna kill my dad it was really really bad so that wasn't as funny but like the rest of it was pretty intense you know because i just imagine when stand-ups tell anecdotes like that often they can be like made up but this is a genuine genuine story 100 % true wow i like left bits out because it was actually worse than it is yeah another thing i saw i remember my mate was in a band and they had this um front man who uh he was like he sort of knew sid vicious in the 70s and it's kind of kept that as is you know those guys in leathers who just that's them forever now regardless of you know how it goes yeah and um they were playing a gig in uh cock tavern in kilburn this is like 2007 and this guy's already like 55 by this point and he was doing a guitar solo and there's like six of us there and he jumped on one of those little round tables that you have in bars.

26:07He just jumped and just wiped out and cracked his back against the stage behind him. And because he was older, just the sound was horrendous and the guitar feedback and everything. And then he got off and tried to get back on the stage and whacked his knee. But he tried to sort of play it off and he got back to the mic went, I'm fucking, don't worry about me, I'm addicted to danger.

26:34Which I just said, you can't, you know. And there was a great bit later in the gig, he tried to then right the wrong, so he jumped onto this other table where there was a couple and he kicked one of their pints because he was being punk rock, even though it's like, there's four people here. And the guy came up and he carried on, the guy was riffing guitar solo, unplugged his mic, and was like, get me a pint. He threw a 20 at him, plugged his guitar back in. And the guy got another pint when he sat down and was like, can I have the change?

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28:16And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Aye, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. You're a boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh, no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! Has it happened? There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to live. Who would it be? Who would I fight? Would you go... Do I want to win or do I not like them?

28:52Oh, no, it's up to you. People are coming to watch, though. People are coming to see Red Richardson live. Versus this person. Yeah. Who would I fight at the moment? Who's really annoying? Who do I think I could beat? Brooklyn Beckham. What a shout. Are you all over that drama, are you? Yeah, I just think he's a little snitch, you know. No, everyone's like, you know, everyone's got, you know, I just think of your family. What are you doing, you know? I went on this because he's not on my radio and then that whole thing happened. I went on his Instagram and just found myself spending like 40 minutes just watching him making potato wedges.

29:29I'm like, you could do this without filming it. You know that? You don't need the money. What are you doing? He is, right. Let's be honest. He is shit at cooking. He's terrible. Yeah. He comes with his backwards cap on. It's like, this isn't a job. You're just a fucking twat in a mansion. You know what I mean? And he goes like, hey guys, and puts them down. He's like, everyone knows how to cut a potato. And he makes the most basic stuff. Wasn't he on like Sunday brunch or like a TV show? And he just made a sandwich. Like a bacon sandwich. It's insane. There's a guy on, this is how niche it gets, but there's a guy on TikTok whose whole thing is reacting to Brooklyn Beckham's cooking videos.

30:05Fuck that, isn't he? But they're really good. They're really good because he's just showing you how bad it is. Well, he failed at photography first, didn't he? Yeah, have you seen the photography stuff? Yeah, with the elephant. They're so hard to photograph. But the thing is with him is he's like, I get it, And he can't help that his parents are so famous and yada, yada, yada. And like the other ones, you know, the ones making music. It's like he's trying to do, there is no reason for what Brooklyn is doing. There is no, it's like, I'm going to make nachos. Go ahead. Do you know what I mean? Like, what are you going to do next?

30:34Run a bath. You know what I mean? It's just, it's insane. There's no, like the other ones are trying to create something. He feels like he deserves a platform for nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're bang on. And I just sort of look at like, I don't know. she looks like a nightmare I just see like ruined camping trip all over her face you know what I mean people like say like we need extra curtains for the room we need to come and stay with you for two days and suddenly you're fucking redoing your guest room because of her I don't know it just reeks of problems but like I don't know what he's up to what's the plan I don't know he was going to be a footballer for a bit when he was younger, that didn't work out.

31:17And I get that and stuff, and I get the whole, but like, there was a great video where he was on a yacht and he was making pasta and he's like, come with me, and he goes out and he's got the bowl and he puts it in the water and all the comments are like, you fucking twat, now you've got pension fluid in your pasta water. Because he thought I'm going to put it in the ocean and he thought it would be quite cool, it's salty. Yeah, oh. He's a thick idiot and he was literally off the back of the yacht. The amount of fumes. Oh my. Imagine he killed his wife's family. and David and Posh came out and said look this is why we didn't want to get married because it's criminally thick and we thought this guy's going to accidentally kill him I think you've confirmed in the first 20 minutes of this pod there's nothing on the internet you haven't seen no I know it's bad I spend too much time on my phone I love your bit that you do where you say about going on the Facebook yeah yeah yeah going down like a rabbit hole and 40 minutes later everyone's been there I spend way too much time do you have apps on your phone?

32:14I need to delete them Do you have apps? A lot of my friends have deleted the apps. What apps? Instagram stuff. No, because it's just so much better for you. I should probably do that. I shouldn't know that Brooklyn Beckham cooks pasta with salty seawater with yacht fuel in it. Fair enough, right. Now, you're from Camberwell. Yeah, born there. But you moved down to, I think we've had someone else from this place on there, Totnes. Totnes. Who would you have? I can't remember, but I just remember it because I remember not knowing how to say that word. That could be many places. Yeah. So what made you move from the big smoke?

32:55My mum and dad moved. I was 10, so I didn't have a choice. It wasn't me moving. I was like, I'm going to move to... Is it a hippie town? Yeah, Totnes is like... Part of it, it's sort of a town at odds because half it's kind of like working class Devon and the other half is 60s hippies who have sort of run out of cash, you know? So a lot of like, you know, creative people. Okay. But like, you know, it's a real hippie town. There's a lot of tie-dye. They say on the sign it says Twin Winania. What? Yeah, because, you know, it would be like Twin Winania. Well, someone's just gone, that would be good.

33:37Well, they think that's what it is, you know, sort of like this is a magic place. And there is, you know, it's a nice place, but there's a lot of problems with it as well, you know? What are the problems? If you raise kids in a way where you're like, just go into the woods and just draw what you feel and you don't need to learn anything. They become Brooklyn Beckham. You become an idiot, yeah. But you're Brooklyn Beckham with no cash, so you can't even make wedges. Yeah, you can eat super noodles. Yeah, yeah, and just eat your own shit. Come with me, guys. I'm going to eat my own shit. Is that what the kids around you were like?

34:14No, no, no. But there's just a lot of people, there's a lot of drugs and a lot of people end up sort of, you leave there and it's a problem and you stay there and it's a problem. If you're raised like that in certain ways, like my parents weren't hippies, so I was all right. But if you're sort of told that, you know, you don't really need to do anything, you know, and then if you stay, often they sort of, you end up just doing nothing. And if you leave, you go into the real world and you go, actually, people don't care about your feelings. So there was a few schools around there, one called Sands, one called Steiner, where the kids could vote in people.

34:47I think teachers were voted in. You didn't have to go to lessons if you didn't want to. What? So you were given all this. It's like, no, the child isn't. It's abuse to send a child to school. And these kids have fucking breakdowns and stuff like that because it is, you know. What, they vote the teachers in? Yeah, and the students got voted in and stuff. So you go and try out and you could smoke. And there was a smoking area. And yeah, like lessons were optional. So kids' feelings were paramount. That was the sort of what was the... That was the premise. How did you feel? What does the kid feel?

35:17And that's what he let him express himself. But then there's no stability. No, no, of course. And it's massively backfired. So this isn't happening now, you don't know? I don't think people would fall for it now. I think the results have been pretty fucking drastic sometimes, you know. But, like, I know you should be illegal, really. But it doesn't set people up. So I think you leave that environment. If you leave, you're in trouble because you'll go, suddenly I'm moving to London. Excuse me, I'm not feeling it today. And they go, well, you're sacked. And they go, what? But you didn't go to one of these Hogwarts.

35:50No, I didn't. I went to Kevix, which was just the school in town. So that was with more, you know, mix. And actually less hippies, more like farmers, kids and stuff like that. Right. So it was a totally different experience. What was young Red Richardson like at school? Just a dick. No, I like taking the piss and having a good time. You know, yeah, just playing football and probably being a tosser. You know, I don't know. You know what you like when you're a kid. What's the naughtiest thing you ever did at school? We ask everyone. I don't know. I used to skip lessons all the time. I remember I got some stink bombs.

36:30Remember the glass ones? Yeah, they fucking reed. They're disgusting. Yeah. And I, there was this thing where, so when the canteen would open, there was two bolts in the floor and the dinner lady would pull them up and then open it. I slipped a stink bomb in there. So when she opened the door, it just cut the glass head clean off. That's quite smart. Yeah, but they had to close the canteen. So no one could eat lunch that day. But my mummy made me pack lunch, so it didn't match her. Did they ever find out it was you? No. My friends knew. I don't know why it's quite evil. It's horrible. I don't know if this is true or not, but sometimes these articles let me down.

37:14But did you audition for the role as Harry Potter? Yeah. So I've had to explain this countless times. I was, so I went to two auditions when I was a kid because there was like 30 ,000 kids auditioned in England for Harry Potter. Was this something you really wanted to do? or your parents were like? No, my parents weren't even. It was a lady who was, they were just casting anyone with brown hair. So like, I think me and, I can't remember if anyone from a school, everyone just sent photos of kids in and they were like, oh, and I went and I got a recall and I went with the director. But I did a show in Edinburgh in 2018 and because you need so much press in Edinburgh because everyone has a story.

37:53Yeah, right, right. I basically said, oh, I got down to the last three just to, and then eight years later, every pod I go on, I went on television Australia on a talk show, and I had to explain to them as well that I'm lying. So you've made it up? Not made it up. There's, you know. You listen to us well. Yeah, what is the truth? Basically, no, it's half true. So I did not get down to the final three. They saw me twice, and I'm sure those people they saw nine times. And by the end, they'd also vet people's parents and stuff. Oh, okay. Because they were very careful to be like, well, we need to make sure this kid isn't on fucking fentanyl by 13.

38:34Right. Because that would ruin the brand. If he kills a prostitute when he's 16 years old. What did you have to do when you went in? It was literally like one of those Hermione, like, Hermione, what, please? Yeah. How old were you at this time? Ten. Can you remember that, do you? Yeah. Do you remember ten? Yeah, that's quite a big thing. What were you doing? Genuinely, I'm not. Were you a smackhead? What was going on? I was from a family of smackhead. Okay. I'm sorry, man.

39:01No, I was...

39:05I actually can't remember much from, like, under 13. Yeah, really? Yeah, I remember pissing myself in a living room. Nice. I remember being born. What? I'm kidding. Fucking hell. Do you remember under 13? Oh, I've tried to blank a lot of that out. Okay, good God. Sorry, boys. Fucking hell. This is an ironic title, isn't it?

39:32We're not telling him, are we? Nah. What? What? Why every guest now? I'm going to get the giggles. Let's put it this way, Red. He had a bad neighbour. Oh, okay. His mum used to beat him. Okay. Yeah. My neighbour really liked me. Who was the neighbour? He never beat me. Graham Norton now.

40:01Oh, right, so that's... Okay. Now you know the vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you weren't down to Final Three. Wasn't down to Final Three. Why don't we go back to Harry Potter? No, we can't now. I feel bad. No, I don't feel bad. We've done a whole tour about it. Really? How did that go? Was it laughs or were you feeling good? Yeah, it's like... Stevie told the story on the podcast quite early on. Yeah. He said, oh, that actually helped me because I've not really spoke about that. Okay, great. And then we kind of like, we make light of it, even though it's quite a traumatic, horrible thing.

40:33Yeah. You get quite a lot of DMs from people that have experienced similar things saying the humour in it helps and stuff like that. But we sometimes it backfires a little bit. Like when we was on a pub crawl last year and fucking stupid laddie thing, but we all got these shirts made up with like people we liked on them. so I got Thomas Suchek for West Ham and I got him one and it was a picture of him fat he used to be fat and it said love thy neighbour and homage to that and we were outside this pub and I think this person with special needs came up and was like Stevie can I talk to you for a minute and we all just wanted to get in the pub but we were like alright and they were opening up about how they got malefist when they were younger and Stevie had a floral shirt on but it said love thy neighbour and I can see him just trying to button it up It wasn't a fun conversation.

41:21Yeah, yeah, yeah. The tour went all right, didn't it? Yeah. We did have a few people say didn't know it'd be that nonce heavy. Nonce heavy. Too nonce heavy. How did you do that as a show? Sorry. We got him in. No. We got the guy in. And you kept it secret. There's a special guest in tonight. This comes on with a rager. I'm too hot though. Fuck's sake. He wouldn't want me now. Sorry, I don't know. Where are we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Number 10s, keep them. What are we going to straight back to that? I don't know, I'm sorry, lads. I didn't realise, yeah. So we know you're now a fully-fledged stand-up.

42:05You've been doing it for 11 years. 11 years, yeah. But let's go back before that. What jobs did you have before you worked in stand-up? I've done, like, most shit jobs. I've worked in pubs for years, dishwashing. I did laboring. I've worked in so many crap, like temp offices. Yeah. I did work for Freddy's Flowers. You know those guys? They knock on doors trying to get people to sign up. No? Yeah, there's a flower subscription thing. What else did I do? Do you remember when Netflix was like that? Yeah, and they just send the DVDs. It's crazy. Yeah, I literally, I think I've said this before on the pod, but some guy knocked on my house and I just literally ordered every single thing that Ricky Gervais was in.

42:48That's so funny. Yeah, it was cute, isn't it? That's amazing that Netflix was that and now it's this. Yeah, and then they would go away, come back three days later with all the fucking DVDs. That's crazy. Yeah. I wonder if they ever did that for porn. What, and just went, what do you fancy? Yeah. Well, these guys used to go around pubs, remember selling DVDs? It was always pirated stuff though. Yeah, that probably was. Yeah. Probably was porn, wasn't it? Fucking hell. If comedy didn't work out for you now, Red, and you have to go back to one of those jobs, what jobs would you go to? I was thinking about this the other day.

43:16I'd probably be like a cab driver. You know, something where you don't really have to, I mean that when you speak to people, but it's kind of just sort of, you can be in your own head, I think. Right. Nothing where I'd have to, I hate having to talk to people. Like the office environment's horrible. I'm surprised the suicide rate is as low as it is in this country. You know, I just worked in some places where I'm like, fuck me. What's the worst job you've ever done? looks like you're having flashbacks yeah I am actually I was thinking about him no I'm you used to live next door yeah you used to live I thought I recognised you you little cunt no I no I worked in where was it out in and it was in this office temp job it was just so bleak and everyone was so depressed and And it was just entering data as a data entry job.

44:13And it was like, I remember this guy who was going on in the Bahamas. It was eight months' time. It was just sort of once a day he'd mention it. And I thought, you're just saying that to stop. It's just this inevitable. But he'd put himself in such debt doing it. And there was no way out, it seemed, for people or anything. It was kind of, but also everyone was just sort of, no one could be themselves. They're all in this work environment. So everyone had this work voice and work friendship. Right. But you go, I don't know, you know, yeah. So when you're doing these jobs, did you always know you had comedy on the back burner?

44:49Yeah, well, I was doing stand-up in the night. So I didn't even, I went full-time just before COVID and then I had to go back to the delivery job after COVID. So really, it's been like four years. What is it, 20, 26, five years, I'd say? It's not fucking ages. No, it took me, I was doing jobs until, so that was seven years of stand-up before I went full-time, I'd say. So 2014, was that your first gig? First gig in 2014. And then, yeah, 2019, I went full-time and then COVID just, you know, obviously took everything. Yeah. So I had to go back to work. But yeah, it was a long time. But I never got a job I liked because I didn't want to because I was like, that would take away from, I've got friends who, they got jobs that were too good.

45:30Well, people who were doing stand-up. Stand-up and they earn 60 grand a year and they would enjoy it. And then suddenly it's like, why are you going to Lincoln for 40 quid tonight? And I didn't want to remotely tempt myself with anything like that. Was stand-up always? Everything, yeah, to me. I always wanted to be, I didn't know, I thought, because Ricky Gervais was the fucking hero. And I thought what you did is make a sitcom and you do stand-up and stuff like that. I didn't know about the circuit very much and that you had to spend years on the circuit. and I, so I thought, oh, I'll make a sitcom or something and so I used to write sitcoms and I like Will Ferrell and stuff and I thought, I want to be like those guys and then I remember I wrote scripts and stuff and people would, you know, go, oh, and pick them up and I got like options which is when someone gives you 500 quid to own it for a year and that happened loads but it was then you'd get notes that would take years and I remember being like, I'm going to book a gig so I just did a gig and I was like, oh, this is instant.

46:24I can go directly to the audience, you know. That's where it came from. And then you don't deal with someone, some cumulus person in their 30s who just somehow had gotten that job. And they go, actually, what's this? I don't understand this. It doesn't matter what you think at all. Because they will ruin it, those guys. And they've ruined, the reason this is here, you know, is that those guys have sort of ruined TV in a way. Well, because they don't understand it and they're not from that world. They patronise the general public. They're not from that world. I think they think they're not, don't trust the general public.

47:00They sort of dull down everything. You know, actually people are fine hearing stuff. Yeah. You know, like what you guys have just said. They go, can you cut that from the show? You know what I mean? Like people are actually all right. It's weird because it's like just moving on to like podcasts a bit, but we have guests on. We say, I reckon we tell the Stevie story probably like 10 % of the time. And like sometimes they'll have their, you've obviously not come with anyone today, but they'll have their team there and we'll get emails straight after. My team are in the vents.

47:32Navy SEALs, yeah. Yeah, it's mad because they panic and think, oh, our client can't be around that. It's weird the stuff that people have asked to be cut. Sometimes it's just like, why? Just, that's fine, just say that. Like you call him Ricky. Yeah. Cut that. Yeah, cut that. I don't want people to know I know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just cut it when I said thanks, that's it. Imagine if it's someone just feedback. Yeah, can you cut when I was nice to you? That bit. So going back to you at school, you find this love of comedy. Yeah. This is quite a hard question, I guess, to answer. Because when did you kind of know you were funny?

48:15In school, I just make my friends laugh. But then we were all funny to each other. You know, that's the thing. But I wanted to do it more. And I think we're all funny together. But I just carried on. that thought this is the life I want to do. And yeah, and then you carry on. And I think people are always funny. You've got friends that are always, you know, the funniest person you know. Yeah. I've got friends who are way funnier than a lot of really successful stand-ups, but they don't know how to do it on stage. Yeah. Because they're funny, but it's a cheat code having a funny friend because you've got years of goodwill and history.

48:47Yeah, and you can use their funny attitude. Yeah, and being funny in the pub is very... It's why, like, I remember I used to have jokes where I'd start and be like, I'd have to say, I'm such a loser. Basically, that's not what the joke was, but it was kind of, and my mate would be like, why do you start like that? And it's because you kind of have to when you're new because you've got to ingratiate yourself to strangers. So with your funniest friend, he can just make a note and you will do an impression of a teacher. It's like, yeah, they don't know that person. You know, so it's somehow taking your pub and making it the world, if you know what I mean, or wherever you are that night.

49:23Yeah, I think it's been well documented that when you moved to Devon, you were family friends with Rick Mayer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was, can I ask you, I'm sure you get asked all the time, but what was it like being around him? He's amazing. He was just always funny. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's all he, you know, he was fucking incredible. Just completely. But, I mean, he was, like, funny from, I think he was born to be, you know, a comedian. But he was phenomenal. Like, I think by 21 he was, the young ones he'd already written and starred in that, you know, he's like, is mad. Yeah. Absolutely insane.

49:56Did you already want to go into comedy before that? I remember seeing him and being like, I can't believe this is an option. This is a job. You know what I mean? The fact that this guy gets to behave like this and just make everyone laugh and get paid for it. Yeah. And it just felt like he was outside of society, which was, you know, amazing. What do you mean by that? He just lived in his own thing and he made his own rules. And, you know, it's sort of like, when you're a kid and you love cowboys because they just go from town to town, shoot a few people, steal some stuff, make a good life. But to me, that's what a comedian is.

50:26In a less dangerous and more fun way, which is less harmful to other people. You're kind of living on the, you know, and I thought this is so great. You get to misbehave and fuck around. And that's what I love doing. That's a really good way to put it. Real life is, to me, terrifying. And, you know, I'd much rather mess around. And the fact that I can do it for a job, you just go, that's a dream, you know. we're always fascinated on this show about like we have we've taken our podcast on tour we had all four there's four of us to do this by the way but um we had all four of us to bounce off where are the other two um we don't come on the guest steps we fuck them off really they heard big nuts was coming in yeah we we we have when we did our show live it was meant to be like a comedy thing but obviously it's not stand-up yeah so if any of us like said a line that didn't quite land we'd have the others to back us up yeah well by back us up we mean just rip into him okay yeah so you're all four on stage just absolutely and what do you do do you do q a and you got do you have guests well we it was we had we had all different sort of segments to it didn't we so we so the best segment is the confessions when you first come in there's a qr code on screen you scan it and you send us your deepest darkest confessions okay and then when we come come on from the for the second half we're all in like the traitor's cloaks i thought

51:49and we get the people to come up and talk about their confession yeah like that uh but my point with that being is like for me like i think i think and i've spoke to many comedians about this but my like deep down in my soul somewhere i've always wanted to do stand up but i don't i don't have the bottle for it so i got to do the cheat code yeah yeah yeah yeah how does a young red Richardson who's funny at school but as we've discussed everyone's funny how do you get how did you first have that bottle to walk in in 2014 and do it it took ages so I wanted to you know when I was like 17 I actually they did a gig at that place I said the cocked tavern there was a gig there and I was like 18 then and I was like oh I spoke to the bartender she's like yeah apply and I never did I remember sending like an email once when I was about 19 but it was kind of this thing that was always always I'm gonna try stand up one day and then when I was 25 my mate was we were hammered it was three o 'clock in the morning and he was like just book a gig and i booked one in angel barry ferns who runs like the best one of the best gigs in the country and he it was the best place to do my first gig because he creates such a good atmosphere and he got back to me he's like when do you want these two dates and there was one like two months away or one three weeks when i was like do the three weeks away because just get it done you know quicker so why are you why are you shitting yourself before you so terrible because i thought i didn't know that I mean, I had a horrible gig last night.

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54:54And we're going, you know, 15, whatever, 14 years going, am I right? You know what I mean? Or is, am I actually funny? So if that first one had gone shut. I could have just not done it again. And you wouldn't have done it again? My third gig was horrible. My first gig went so well, and I went, I've got, and my third gig was, I don't think I would have done it again. I would have gone, oh, it's just not for me. Maybe I'm not, you know? What was that like after having two good gigs? I just couldn't, I went, fuck, I didn't know that that was a thing. But then you realise that, you know, Louis CK will go and bomb, you know, now.

55:26Like, it's just these people. What do you, does that still happen with the top? Of course. completely yeah Chris Rock apparently you know he he doesn't perform his jokes when he's doing the new material he just reads them out just to see if the lines are good enough because he knows he's so good at performing that he can hide behind it oh he wants to see if the joke is good enough yeah yeah yeah you'd be fucking good though well yeah and people do and they will bomb these guys you know and their best bits will have been six months people going that's not funny that's what's so funny about audiences they go this isn't funny and the way they look at you when you're doing it you know it is you're just you know you're wrong yeah this is what you're wrong no you're right though like we were speaking to daniel sloss about this wasn't and he he was saying the same it's like he knows this stuff is funny but that's why i'm always so fascinated to speak to comics about that first gig because you don't know it's funny no and you're still going in how did you know how to structure a joke i didn't i won't know to write you know but i wrote and i wrote five minutes and i just went over with my brother for like three days.

56:30I remember getting up and it was just like, it was honestly like fucking, this is, I felt like I was on trial. I was finding out whether you're going to be, you know. And then first, I remember this woman, and she's probably, God knows who she is, she could have been, you know, but she, I remember this woman laughed when I first said and then a few people around her didn't, like little did she know, you know, she changed the course of the night. It was actually Lucy Letby, I found out later on. No, I don't know. But, you know, she probably, like, that was like, oh, my God. You know, these weird strangers that don't know what they've done.

57:06Did you find it hard? Because I think we saw your stand-up for the first time in January. Yes. When you were doing the Ricky and Friends. Yeah. And you've got, like, I'm no fucking critic, but I think you've got such a unique stage presence and style. I don't know if you're not really that. When I'm on stage, I'm just doing the David Brent mannerisms. okay but you're you're literally matt bragg's like everyone love me fuck off matt where did where did that come from or have you always just had a unique no that was there's not a you know by any choice i think i genuinely thought oh i'm gonna be like eddie murphy when i get up because you're i just thought i'm gonna get up i'm gonna do maybe some voice yeah i can't do voices i don't know what i was thinking but i i i thought i'm gonna be like pacing around and And I remember it was just get up there and I went, fuck, and I froze.

57:56And then that just stayed.

58:01How long was that first set? Five minutes. But it was just unreal. Like it was looking back, realising if anyone's listening and thinking of starting stand-up, it matters so little, that first one. And you think it's everything. And in hindsight, it is everything because it did change the course of my life. but if it doesn't go well it doesn't mean anything you know if the first 50 are kind of shit it doesn't mean anything right it's i put so much in it and i've ever looked back on my career there's all these things go if this just happens this will be none of it is it's a culmination of time there is no breaks you know they're tiny little yeah like the rizzler size things that pile up on top of each other you know and then but just by the sheer amount of volume that you're doing, you become good.

58:49Yeah, I think that was it. And like, I remember, I had to look back, I remember thinking I killed my first gig. I had a tape of my second gig that I found a while ago and I'm going, this is fucking terrible. And there's like four people going, ah, ah, ah. But at the time, you're like, these are strangers laughing at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I'd be like, that was awful. What do you think makes a good stand-up comedian? Being funny, number one. Genet, yeah. Yeah. Doing it a lot, so persistence. um uh complete single-mindedness with it i think you have to be obsessed with it otherwise you can't do it um drive and also a level of confidence in and crippling self-doubt delusional narcissism with crippling self-doubt and hatred when they collide is the perfect i think most of the comedians we have on here yeah sums them up you have to go you're fucking wrong but then you also go, I hate myself, that was awful, I need to improve.

59:47So when you have a, like you said last night, you had a bad gig. Yeah. What are you thinking in that moment? I went on Groupon to see if they'd been giving out free Ricky Gervais tickets to mentally ill people. It was a real IQ problem in the crowd, and I wanted to get to the bottom of it. Yeah, no, that's the crippling narcissism. No, I was like, this is horrible. I feel like, ugh, this is, and people look and they're like, and you go no no not well that's why they've done that a hundred times it works it's you it's right you know this is orange juice you just you're weird most people are right with this they don't love it but it's not well so you start gigging in 2014 in 2015 I think it was you get you become a finalist of so you think so you think you're a finalist yeah for people not in that world what is that competition how big is that That was, I mean, that was the big, that was, I don't know how much it means now because the internet's just taken everything.

1:00:51But at the time that was, they do, I think they try out all, try out all over the country. There are 800 people and then the best eight new acts from England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales would go to Edinburgh and be in the final. And so you look at the finalists from some year, it's crazy. It's like Peter Kaye won it. Fucking hell. It's always like one fight. You know, it's like Jimmy Cock, Kevin Bridges, everyone you can think of now. There was one year which was, I think, Daniel Sloss, Sean Walsh, Romesh Ranganathan, Rob Beckett. You know, Sarah Pascoe, I think, was in that final. Wow. So it was kind of the thing.

1:01:32And I remember going, I got to get to the finalists. and then yeah I like at the time that was like another like fuck this is so huge is it a tape sorry you send in or is it are you doing it live you send a tape then you do quarter finals and the semi finals then you do it live and it was in a big room in Edinburgh so it's like the first time I think there's like 500 people and it's like oh my god and at the time it was like if you do well on this you're going to be because people go straight to TV from that and I remember the lady Karen Corrin who sort of runs it was like there's going to be agents on all over you guys after this, don't sign a thing.

1:02:07And I remember being stood in the after party, just completely alone with a drink, going, hmm. No one there. But, like, you know, it was, yeah, it was that sort. But that's another one of, like, I remember going, fuck, if I win, I've got to win this, you know. Yeah, yeah. Who was you up against, do you remember? Bunch of loosener. The guy won at Luca Capone, I think he lives in Dubai now. He's on the Epstein files. so he's moved out there because there's no extradition treaty. Second bit's not true. He has moved to Dubai. Right. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He won it. That's the worst bit about it.

1:02:45Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I just made up he was on the Epstein Files because he beat me.

1:02:52So that didn't change everything. He didn't do anything. I got a terrible review from Chortle by some sinister little virgin who works there. He was like, what did he say? He's like Jack D if Jack D was a sociopath. And then it was a pasting is what I got. And I thought, fuck, this really matters. And it just doesn't. It really doesn't. These people don't matter. None of it does. When did you realise that these things don't matter? The last three years. I did Edinburgh twice. I had horrible, not horrible, I'd go up, you fund it all yourself, you get PR and everything. And then acts who I thought were fucking dog shit would just fly and sell out because they were people in edmund sort of more of a theme and you need to have a story whereas i made up harry potter and that wasn't enough for the cunts turns out you know i mean um and but uh and i remember 2022 it was playing to six people a day it was absent there's some clown act next door uh you know miming anxiety or something you know and and selling out and i just went i can't and so i went on there just focus online and it's just direct to the audience and you have your own audience go to and one in every hundred comments someone calls you a fat cunt that's fine but like otherwise it's just you and people who want to watch what you're doing i was fascinated to read because um a lot of comedians who are successful they make podcasts for try and make money and all this but you actually said in an interview a few years ago that your or even last year your podcast is purely a vehicle to drive traffic to your live Yeah, that would be, I've got a podcast, I only do it to try and sell tickets.

1:04:30Right. It's a cash grab. Right. Yeah. And it's not making much cash. Do you want to plug it? It's called Red Talks. I nearly cancelled it today, but I'm going to give it another few eps, I think. So get involved. That's the best plug we've ever had for anything. I genuinely nearly fucking quit today. Why? Because I just can't be bothered anymore. Get involved. It's really good. it's a wellness podcast that's not going very well.

1:05:01What? Everyone's making so much money. I just thought I want a bit. Right. Yeah. I don't want to do the actual podcast. Do you want to be here right now? Yeah, I'm enjoying this. Yeah, this is fun. Yeah. How did it come to be that you, because you've started working with Ricky, doing a lot of live shows with Ricky, who I think we've both said during this interview is a comedy hero of ours. Yeah, completely. How did that come about, if you don't mind me asking? Genuinely very funny story. I was writing for Nevermind the Buzzcocks and Josh Pugh, has he been on? He's been on. Great job, brilliant comic, brilliant stand-up, his sketches are incredible.

1:05:42He was writing on Nevermind the Buzzcocks too. So actually in the writing one was me, Finn Taylor, Josh Pugh. Great fun. That's a great three, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arguably better than the show. No, anyway. Just kidding, not arguably at all. And no, he, no, I'm kidding. So he got asked to be on the show because Noel Fielding was obviously one of the team captains, and Pete Doherty was aghast, and he came in. Noel Fielding, I think, had long COVID, so he's very, doesn't like COVID. Right. Big anti-COVID guy. Yeah. And Pete Doherty came in and went, ah, my wife's got COVID. she left her at home she's coughing her guts yeah and so Noel Fielding went I'm not appearing on the show with this guy so they he fucking went off in a strap and they got Josh Pugh and they said Josh do you want to be on the show and he was meant to be opening for Ricky that night so Josh was like I can't turn down the bunscocks and so it was a Christmas episode as well they put him in a little Christmas hat and then he was like Red do you want to go and open for Ricky and I was like well I mean 100 % yeah and so I just ran jumped on the tube and then ran I was like 45 minutes to get there and he just came in I was like panting which I probably would have been anyway you know what I mean and he was like hi and it was just it was weird meeting someone that is you know has done something that great when you're out of breath you know what I mean it's not good were you nervous to me 100 % yeah and then and then the worst thing is Noel Filning came in and went actually I'll come on the show Josh didn't even fucking get to do Buzzcocks I opened for Ricky and then it worked that well for you and then he went on tour and I didn't hear from him because he was just Sean does his tours so they went off around the world you know doing fucking stadiums and arenas or whatever and then I was checking into the hotel called the Citrus in Cardiff which there's a load of clubs and they put you in this hotel it's just disgusting hotel shout out the Citrus but it's rank but there's one good thing they have a 24 hour fridge with beers in it so if you fancy a can at four in the morning you can go I've been there that's fair have you been there yeah I've been there I've not been to the Citrus I've been there at the 4am yeah yeah it's quite good yeah there's a little car park you can smoke in it and drink cans yeah and so I went and I was checking in there and the woman started taking my stuff and then I got a call and it was a number I didn't recognise but I was waiting for a call from some I can't remember what it was and I was like oh maybe this is them answered it and he's like oh it's Ricky Gervais and I was like and the woman's like excuse me I was like I'm coming back and she's like what and I just there was a queue behind me I was like nah and just like left all my bags and my stuff and just walked out and people were like what are you doing and then I remember being on the phone but wanting the phone call to end so I could ring everyone in my family and tell them about the call yeah and now you just do you're always doing shows yeah yeah yeah he is genuinely a lovely man great guy such a great guy like because I think it's no secret that obviously he gets some shit online now, doesn't he?

1:08:48Like the same as anyone. Why do you think anyone who's massively successful? People cannot handle it. You become, you look at Oasis and they're like, oh, they're fucking overrated. And you're like, overrated doesn't, people are rated how they're rated. Right, exactly. I just find underrated is actually an insult. I don't know if anyone says that. I've had comments on my YouTube special, this guy's underrated. And you're like, what you're saying there is, I like you, I don't know why everyone else thinks you're shit. Well, because we found it quite odd because when we announced that Ricky was coming back on the show, obviously you have hundreds and hundreds of people that are buzzing and then we have like a small section of our like reddit page that were like fucking fuming blah blah blah and then the episode came out and everyone loved it and it's just like it's just this faux like outrage of like oh he said this at this point about that and it's just yeah it's a crazy time isn't it no the internet's fucking mad it's a lot of very unhappy people and we're all like that you know everyone's you know I shouldn't know what frame mocking is but we all just everyone's just sort of staring at other people's lives I wonder, I hope that the new generation reject it and go, that's what old people do and it's pathetic.

1:09:50Right. You know, that's sort of like... That's a good angle on it, yeah. Yeah. Because I've got a kid, one tomorrow, and I'll be on my phone and she's like, actually, get off it. You know, it's like, because she's going to go... I was graduating, my dad was watching Clavicula, Jester Maxing on his phone. You mentioned touring there, right? Do you... I know you love performing live. it's in your heart and soul do you like the touring element or i do it gets a lot it's because every night especially this is my first tour and i'd never it's taken me so long to get anywhere you know it was 11 years of just doing clubs and stuff but then i started doing well online i was like oh my god and you get the sort of fear that comes with that of like oh they're gonna just think i'm shit so every night it was like you have to prove yourself again which i think will relax more the more tours i do maybe and go but then you go i've got to make them come back again And also there's a guilt because you don't want to put phone in a show.

1:10:47So you want everyone, like if they're paying money, you want them to, because it's odd. I get so annoyed when I don't do well at a show because it's insane that I get paid to do it. So it really bothers me if it doesn't go well, you know, because I go, I didn't do what I was paid to do, which is also a completely amazing scenario to be in, to be paid for. So when I tour, I really, you do, I'll do gig and it'll be, if there's, it could be 400 people down and I'll see one face and go, why doesn't he like this? And you fix it on that. It's just them. It's all I can think about. I go, what's he not getting his money's worth for?

1:11:18So many comics seem to be like that, don't they? One person can ruin your show. Well, that's exactly what we do with the internet. Really, that one comment. We get 400 lovely comments. It's the only ones you can see. Yeah. You know, it's my mate Joshua Lepat, a special live at the Vermont. It's really good. But he was like, oh, the comments are negative. I went on. It's like, only like nine out of 10 are bad. No, most of them are good. but he's just all he's thought of and I mean he'll probably be able to like I always say this as like I never remember a good audience member's face right but I could be 90 not remember my wife and kid's name yeah but I could paint the bad guy face perfect the one yeah that's literally like Josh Pugh said it almost it's horrendous he said that he did a show once and it just like went super well but there was one guy like three rows from the back or whatever and he was doing he sort of was doing that the whole time.

1:12:12And he said that he sees him in his sleep. Yeah, it's horrible. It's mad. Were you touring? What were you doing in America? Were you gigging in America? Yeah, I was doing gigs. So I did a tour there in 2024, and then I just did a show in Los Angeles in Vancouver, then New York. Again, I'm always fascinated by this, but what are crowds like in America compared to the UK? They're kind of the same. Are they? Yeah, unless you're going, oh, Aldi's different these days. You know, it's sort of like, it's the same thing. Everyone's got, you know, a friend who's an idiot or a partner that does this. You know, it's not that different.

1:12:47America just hasn't received our stuff on the same level that we do with theirs. You know, they don't. I mean, you look at, like, Ricky's massive there. I'd say, but they don't, you know, they don't know who our arena fillers are. Like, I don't think Peter Kaye's not big there. You know, somebody could do 20 Nights at Wembley or whatever he does. Right. It's weird, isn't it? Because they don't really take our stuff and they have to remake our stuff, even making The Office again. It's like, why? And I haven't seen The American Office, more because I can't. I'm so, you know, the other ones like the Bible, you know?

1:13:20Yeah, I've not seen it. I'm not doing it, no. No, I can't. I'm not having it. Yeah, I can't. Do you have to, do you change any of your material when you do it over there? No, because I don't really talk about anything that related. No, it's more, I don't, there's no references. I found in New York, I had a joke which involves a missing cat poster and I was like, this doesn't work. and they're like, yeah, because it's not a done thing here. If your cat's gone, it's just fucking done. Oh, what? Oh, really? Yeah, because they're so big and so sort of, I don't know. I picture them to be the ones to do these big things.

1:13:44I thought like all these little suburban... Maybe out of the... But they just didn't... Maybe the joke's rubbish. I don't know. There's always that. Gone Girl is literally about the girl gone. It's not a cat, though, is it? That's not in New York either, is it? No. No. It worked in LA, so I don't know. I don't know what it is. But it's not too different. They're not like, they're not, it's, yeah. Maybe if you go, I think I'm going to the cities. Yeah. So you gig in London, it's totally different to going to Stafford. Right. Where I went on Friday and will not be returning to ever again. I've got something funny to tell the listeners.

1:14:21I found this funny anyway. So I often message, well, I always message each guest before they come on. And I say like, could you give me like a list of anecdotes that like maybe I won't find when I research you that we can talk about? sometimes it'll be like i don't know i'm making it up but josh pew might be like i was on a private jet with bricky two weeks ago this funny thing happened right so i asked fred can you give me a list of stuff he goes yeah uh give me a week then he comes back a week later goes got caught in a blizzard in new york last week mate got his car stolen i was thinking a big career thing oh that's what you meant you've got it was a bit snowy oh i thought you meant just what's been going on no how bad it was blizzard it was awful the whole place got shut down flights were cancelled everything last week in New York oh that was when Casey Naysack was doing the video do you know Casey Naysack no YouTuber fuck me who's Casey Naysack he's like the OG really yeah Casey Naysack he's probably about 45 years old and then maybe five years ago was his heyday he's a proper filmmaker like he's incredible and he was doing daily vlogs for about two years but every single video was like a masterpiece piece really he did this video about five years ago there was a blizzard in new york and everyone in new york knows him right he's got like he's this iconic guy right like i'm pretty sure ricky would even know he was wouldn't you really yeah he's like made adverts for nike and anyway so there's a blizzard and he got he was he sort of hooked his um snowboard up to like a police car and the police car was driving him around he was snow he's just like this cool weird kind of character and he made one again from last week and it's gone super viral oh wow so you were there when Casey Naysat was knocking about.

1:16:01I cannot believe that you... How do I not know? YouTube's a different world, though, isn't it? It's sort of on the... Yeah, you're on just the social... Subscribe. I've only just started using YouTube, so I started uploading on there. I never used to. You know KSI is? Yeah, I know KSI and his brother, Deji. I know the Paul brothers. The Paul brothers. Who else is there? Do you know the Pauls? Not personally. Have you? No, okay. I've had a few run-ins with them. Really? Why? What's happened? so the so i think we i can't remember talking about this on the pod or before the pod but i used to make these sort of like piss-taking videos yeah uh but i think they always had sort of like morals at the heart of them right so so one of the videos i did with my mate alfie who's on this pod logan and jake's dad greg paul there was a bit of controversy yeah there was a bit of controversy around him a few years ago where jake was bringing girls back to the mansion they were blind blind following and he was whose cock is it anyway wasn't it yeah pretty much yeah and he was snogging him so yeah is he married to Jake's mum yeah no he was he's divorced now but I think he's now he's a fame hungry he's like a stage mum but like a yeah YouTube dad yeah the new version so we so I travelled to Miami to try and find him yeah and had all these like leaflets well are you going to kiss him to try and kiss him oh great really no I'm joking that's amazing yeah so pretty much like the lost cat post yeah yeah yeah shot me and greg and a love heart amazing and i ended up i found him you got a graffiti artist in norwich to do a big huge mural of me and him like we went big on this video and then we made a love song to him and and uh i found him at this event i found jake's mum first and she was like greg's just over there and i was like do you think he'll kiss me and she was like yeah i'm sure he would like that he didn't take to her very kindly no he threatened to knock me out on camera really logan actually was very more self-aware i saw logan at a press conference a few days later and i went up to him with one of these sheets went can i snog you out yeah yeah he is massive mate i'm really he's fucking he's at wwe and what just really tall big and and he was so charming really he just went i'm very aware of the public sentiment of my father like that he was like very self-aware really yeah and then what's Jake like you.

1:18:14Yeah, I can't. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Before we let you go, Red, because you did only send me two notes, I think it's only fair that we speak about the second one as well. Okay. Your mate had his car next? Yeah, my mate Sunil Patel. He's a comedian, very good. He actually got his car stolen from outside his house. Was this in America as well? No, it was actually a year ago. But it was the anniversary two days ago, and he put up a post about it and you just messaged him and go, oh, we could talk about that. Yeah. These are a metal to sell tickets, aren't they?

1:18:54But they got his car stolen, but he had a tracker on his car. And so they'd only, they'd driven it five minutes up the road. So we, he was like, can you come with me? Because he obviously is. Are you hard? He was going to call me, you know what I mean? Yeah, knew I'd get the job done. He rang the police and the police said to him, ah can you go get it yourself and he's like what but basically what they do and we found it afterwards so it wasn't half as exciting but at the time we didn't know this but we what they do is they steal a car and then they'll park it somewhere and leave it there for four days to see if the tracker goes off and then if there's no tracker they'll come and get it oh yeah yeah which they should just destroy the track but i don't think it's hard to back sweat as yeah but so we just went in and uh i mean we went into this estate and it was just there and he was up right quick because we thought we were stealing it back from the gang who took it.

1:19:45And he like jumped out and I was sort of just in my car and then obviously, I was such a phone addiction, I just started scrolling on my phone and then I just got a call from him because he didn't want to beep his horn. He didn't want to, he was like, mate, we need to get the fuck out of here. So I was parking him in. We cruised out of there. But when I told it originally, I made it way more dramatic. I said when I drive in, and this kid released a dove, and it was all something. I knew I was both like Denzel Washington from Training Day. You know what I mean? That sort of thing. You were almost Harry Potter, and you was in this Denzel film.

1:20:19Fair enough. I blacked up and knocked out Jake Paul last Christmas. That was me. You can probably tell by the bod. Luke's maxing over it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Brad, this has been great time. Cheers, guys. Thanks a lot. Thanks for coming on. Plug whatever you want to plug. my podcast whatever Red Talks and Bugatti Live is my comedy special watch that it's on YouTube Red Richardson Comedy are you touring anytime soon? I will be soon I don't know I'm going to announce the next couple of months okay we'll come down and watch you do your thing cheers boys thanks a lot for having me Red we always finish with the same question yeah what's the meaning of life?

1:20:56I don't know be alright you know don't fucking don't don't kill anyone and just sort of you know be useful whether that's you're good taking leaves out the drain or or your Usain Bolt you know there's many uses in this world pick one of them because they're all helpful that's actually quite poetic there we go this has been Jackmates Happy Hour with me Jackmates cheers boys and the brilliant Red Richardson cheers mate

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Stand up comedian, podcaster, and serial liar Red Richardson is on the pod! Red shares some of the strangest moments of his life, including being caught up in a terrorist attack in London, nearly landing the role of Harry Potter, the mission to track down his mate’s stolen car, and the WhatsApp group chat drama that exposed his neighbour’s secret. 

We explore Red’s journey through comedy, from his disastrous early gigs, to supporting Ricky Gervais at shows a decade later. Red talks about the difference between UK and US crowds and the backlash around comedy today. 

Plus, we hear about his cursed TikTok algorithm, and his surprising knowledge of looksmaxxing, mogging and something called a Clav…? 
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