648 - The Real BEAVO Revealed: A Raw Honest Interview (Bonnie Blue Collab, Making His Mum Start OF, & Secretly BROKE)

26:50I just... The end of it would be a nice... The Austrian painter, I just find him very interesting. Who? Hitler. I find Hitler very interesting. Right. just with his thoughts, his ideas, his ideology. Yeah. Yeah, I just find it very interesting and just, I don't know, not smart, but I just like history. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Well, hopefully your answer to this one's not the same. Who's your hero? Hero.

27:22I'm going to have to say, it's a weird one. You probably don't know, M24, he's a rapper. A lot of his lyrics just I relate to, and it's helped me through my breakup recently. And as again, lyrics goes, oh, I've forgotten it now. Of course, I'm put under pressure. One thing I learned in life, everyone has their time. Everybody look at me different. That N is not my slime. So yeah, I'll just, I'll relate to his lyrics. She posts on OnlyFans, get rid of that bitchy whore. And again, I've had an ex that was on OnlyFans. I need to get over her and be the bigger man. and yeah just are we talking about this the ex is her name Sophia yeah we can mention her we're on good terms we just talk with Sybil but yeah I just need to get over her so right so so so you've got you've had a breakup yeah how long were about eight months ago oh we was together two year year and a half two years year and a half and so I don't know too much about this but obviously when I was researching you I've had a look at that yeah I also watched the documentary you did with Isaac HB which I thought was good.

28:28So you were with this, how did you meet her? I met her at a boxing event. Met her at a boxing event, hit it off. And then you went, but you went on a podcast, didn't you? You went on a, was it called Whatever? Oh, the Whatever one, yeah. So again, that was, this is where I like to out people now because again, I'd done that for financial gain. I made out, we slept with other people to get more subs to our OnlyFans page. I'll be honest, at that period of time, I was broke as shit. Right. Okay. And she was, she was the sugar mummy of the relationship. This is what she don't get enough credit for.

29:02And otherwise, back, we fell out, we've had her ups and downs. People say, oh yeah, it was too good to be true. She blew up for Flashing Angry Ginge and Danny Aaron's on the 20v2. She was the star of that show. I was the star of the Try Not To Laugh on the Sidemen with me on there. Then literally a month later we met, we got together. Everyone thought it was like an industry like push together a relationship just for money yeah but no we generally liked each other she'd come round I had loads of nightclub appearances like I had about five a week she was coming to get it for her it's different looking back now taking a birth to all these nightclubs and hitting it off but they're probably loving it do you know what I mean I was earning a lot of money she was earning a lot of money was travelling do you know what I mean I think she paid for we went to LA for my birthday literally a month of meeting she paid for it all really done a lot of stuff out there and there's a lot of people that would have thought that you were paying for it all right so she weren't with me just for the clout she was with me that's what I give her I give her a due she was with me for me which I love she's my first proper girlfriend if you really want to be honest I don't care and she'll always have a place in my heart and again the future girls might not like that but I'll give it to her do you know what I mean and she's gone down a different path now which again I don't see me getting back with her because it's very once you've seen stuff it's very hard and again I respect the girls that are in that industry but once you've done that it's hard to get Was she not in that when you were together?

30:26No, no, she'd just done OnlyFans. Yeah, she'd done, she slept with men beforehand. But when you were together? Yeah, no, it was just us. And then it comes to a stage where it was me on our page. Then I dropped my page. And then it was very hard because people were bored of us. And it was like, we had a sit-down chat. I was like, cool, we've met Bonnie Blue before she blew up. Yeah. I need to club with her because this girl's going to go viral. We actually called the Bonnie Blue virality before she went viral. I said, people want to see you with other men. Do we be the bigger people here? Do we want to live in a mansion when we're older or do we want to live in a council flat back at Canvey Island?

31:00Right. Or where she's from? Yeah. We thought, cool, right? We're not jealous people. Yeah. Turned out to be very jealous of each other. Let's just go for it. Let's just make money. I love you. You love me. And on the same day, she collabed with her first collab. I collabed with Bonnie Blue. Yeah. So this collab with Bonnie Blue, this was real, was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. because I, obviously I've not seen it, but I've heard. He has his laugh in there. No, no. That's because we were speaking about it. Yeah, no, no. Screen Rock. We were speaking to Screen Rock. Screen Rock spoke about it. Do you know the Screen Rock boys?

31:32Because they reckon, there's a theory. Go on then, I'm a theory. So are you in the shot at the same time? You can see a whole you or not? It's like from your point of view. POV, yeah. Right, so there's a world in which that might not be you. Is that right? Is that fair to say? I know you're telling me it is, but there is an argument to be made that that is not that's how I started it off and I feel like if I would have carried on I would have put full body but it comes that stage where I didn't enjoy it right so I just stopped doing it you didn't enjoy what the making porn yeah I just bro people it's a saying don't die for pussy and I'm just I've never heard that I'm just not we're from different don't die for Nash people no right I don't I've heard that yeah yeah like don't get me wrong sex is great but I prefer Being with someone For them And actually travelling And doing stuff With that one person Then just Oh cool I've shagged 50 girls I really couldn't care So when When you met her She's on OnlyFans already Yeah You're doing Sophia Yeah Yeah You're doing Your TikToks Eating potatoes So two very different things Yeah So being with her Meiji You're both swallowing things whole Sorry Got to make your money, mate.

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34:07And the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier, so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together. Shop now at palmolive.com. No, no, not straight away because I was earning right at the start and this is actual figures I was probably earning about 15, 20 grand a month. What, on TikTok? Yeah, just from TikTok. So is it as that money started to go down you thought I need a new avenue of income OnlyFans is the way? So six to eight months in we're in Miami broke as shit I couldn't even tip for water. What? Is this you and Sophia in Miami? I was in Miami I couldn't tip for water and then she got the we argued she was like I'm not buying you no drinks I'm like alright fair enough I'm being a bitch here do you know what I mean?

34:46And then that's where we had the chat and we flew to LA and Bonnie was out there. I was like, cool, I need to make money. I need to do OnlyFans because TikTok, now you don't earn no money on TikTok. The RPM's gone to... That's why I don't do dinner videos anymore, which I will bring back. We might bring back. But yeah, it was at that stage, I need to earn money. She's earning all this money still on OnlyFans. I need to earn money. She didn't want me to do it. And to be fair, I wish I never did because I wanted to be different because I didn't want to be like with someone she's been with for that done OnlyFans and they have all these OnlyFans relationships and this and that.

35:19I wanted to be different. But again, the money got the better of me and I wanted to earn money. Did Sophia want to sleep with other people at the time? No, no, no. It was very nervous for her, I could imagine, you know, because again, when you're in a relationship and I wouldn't even, honestly, I'd be at nightclubs and I wouldn't even let girls put their hand around me. I'm a very loyal person. I don't, I wouldn't think of cheating. If you want the urge to cheat, just don't be with that person or you shouldn't be with that person. yeah um so so what so you so you're sat there i'm trying to paint the scene so you're sat there you're in miami you haven't got any money yeah sophia's getting pissed off about this you decide let's collab with other people yeah do you do bonnie blue she's with whoever and then how does that come about then how do you what do you how do you contact bonnie blue what's the next steps so bonnie was bonnie was fresh on the scene no one knew bonnie was yeah so where sophia was bigger than Bonnie at the time.

36:13Yeah. Bonnie's reached out to Sophia. I'm here. Come meet me. We do a collab. So that's how we got the connection. So before she blew up, we already knew Bonnie for Bonnie and we was friends with her, which I'd like to say I'm friends with now. We've not spoken a while, but she's doing her thing and she's making her millions, so fair play to her. But yeah, we had that connection already. So where I'm big in the scene, Bonnie's going to leech off the cloud. You're going to, as an OMF girl, you're going to leech everywhere you can. which I respect very big up to her and yeah we had that connection and then you know I had that link to do the most probably biggest collab in England well I think if you talk about a porn collab it's Bevo and Bonnie Blue we was trending on Pornhub for literally a month and literally all the search was Bevo Bonnie Bonnie Bevo Bevo Bonnie Blue do you know what I mean in the search bar so so how for someone who's never done porn before not from that background you go into you meet her in Miami do you?

37:08LA in LA she had an LA mansion and she let us stay there so yeah it was nice and then you go in and you film this video yeah how is so you're still I know you've had this whole life thrown on you but deep down you're still Brandon yeah you're still Brandon he's got a girlfriend he's like a normal couple how are you going into that room I was nervous to shit yeah I bet and I don't know if I can say I couldn't come for shit but it took me like half hour to come like on the video right bear in mind it was just like a blowjob video it weren't like a full sex tape yeah yeah it was weird I was like fucking you know like but again like I wouldn't say I enjoyed it but it's I wouldn't say it's a thrill I don't know the words like it's very it was just different so it was a bit like it felt naughty but you can enjoy a bit of naughtiness you know what I mean because you can get away with that so yeah it was different it was weird it was naughty but again it made a good video and I made a lot of money from it How did you make money from that then?

38:00Because isn't that on Bonnie Blue's page? No but I made OnlyFans so when I started OnlyFans I had an OnlyFans so yeah I sold the video I put a trailer on Paul Narbett got 3 million views that paid me 12 grand. What, the people going over to OnlyFans? Or the trailer on? The trailer. No, sorry, 1%. The video on OnlyFans made 12 grand. I made 3 to 4K on the trailer on Pornhub. And then over time selling it, it's made more money. So I like to say with everything I've done, I've probably made around$30 ,000 from that. Just that collab, yeah. What does Bonnie get out of that? Well, she posted on her page as she sold it.

38:43Oh, okay. And she posted on her porn. She will have made money on her side as well. Are you both selling the same video then? Yeah. So people can choose which one to buy from? Yeah.

38:54So regardless of the kind of morality behind this, would it not have made more sense business-wise to film two different videos? Probably, and that's what a lot of people do nowadays. Yeah. They do two scenes. Right. But again, if they want to sub to me and see it, again I feel like I don't want to say too much about OnlyFans because I've got a lot of respect for people but it's a bit all I'm saying it's a bit misleading do you know what I mean so people think there's a lot more on there than there is but again I don't want to go too much into it because again it's people's livelihoods and jobs but if people come over to me and want to see me and I have a bit of different content they can sub to me and buy it off me if they want to buy it off her they'll buy it off her Are you still on it now?

39:32No my page is there but I don't post there's videos on there people can buy it like from time ago but I don't upload nothing at all now no more and I don't even look at it I literally just withdraw money from it and that is it do you regret having slept with Bonnie Blue or I didn't sleep with Bonnie Blue let's get that clear no no of course not no it's a business move and I feel like I'd probably be more shameful sleeping with a bra than I would be Bonnie Blue would you so yeah of course do you regret it for how it ended up going in your relationship with yeah because going down the porn route I lost the girl I love the most then unfortunately I faded out with it.

40:10People didn't really care about me sitting with other girls. People wanted to see her sleep with loads of other boys. Then I was jealous. I didn't like it. I didn't let her do what she needed to do. And we come to the stage where we were just going a bit crazy. I won't say exactly what, because I have respect for her. And then we just broke up, you know, and then she's doing her thing now. It's a big up to her. And I feel like I'm doing a lot better in myself. And again, if we cross paths again in the future, we cross paths again, if not, I'm sure someone else will make her happy and I'm sure someone else will make me happy this is an argument that's often lobbied towards OnlyFans creators and I've heard Bonnie Blue have to answer this numerous times but when you're older and you've got kids I don't care you don't care well you don't care that they'll see that video I don't care what you see in your dad's dick you come out your dad's dick do you know what I mean like respectfully I've got that mindset where not once I do anything for money because of course there's limits but I would walk around naked at a house.

41:07I don't care. Your body's your body. I'm proud of my body. Do you know what I mean? I'm not packing, but I'm not small down there. Do you know what I mean? I've got that confidence of, yeah, cool. I've got these followers. I am Bevo. If you don't like me, I don't care. If you like me, I love you. Do you know what I mean? So yeah, I don't really care. And the good thing is about my content, my face is not in it. Right. So you can't mix it. As you said, was it me? Yeah, right. Or was it not me? Right. I mean, I could be saying it's me just to get more money. Right. Yeah, it was you. Right, well, fuck yeah.

41:41But there's a lot of men out there that would love to sleep with Bonnie Blue. I know she sleeps with a lot of men, but there's still a lot of men out there. There's not many that haven't. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't feel like that's that difficult now, is it? That's where I see you. I see you in the queue for Bonnie Blue. Yeah, yeah. Blue balaclava on or whatever it is. There you go, there you go. One of the most awkward things we're going to discuss here today. Go on then, I don't care. Where do you think this is going? I don't know, actually. Because you've done a lot of stuff, haven't you?

42:06I've done so much. Yeah, right. But I love this. This is what I'm saying. I love... Well, you're very... I'm open. I don't care. You are open. You are open. That's how it is. So yeah, here we go. Come on, let's go. Does your mum have OnlyFans? She does. Right. And I didn't say that excitedly because I'm gassed she's on there. Again, right. So let's just backtrack a little bit. Yeah. With TikTok, storylines. Yeah. People love storylines. EastEnders on your phone. Scrolling all day. Yeah. oh Bevo's with this girl oh that Bevo's done this oh my god Bevo's cheated on yeah people love storylines so I was like cool in my head once I'm falling off because I'm still earning money but I was like I need I need something to spice yeah I need spice yeah Bevo's mum and OnlyFans so you you took the idea to your mum yes no no right we'll get to my mum in a minute cool I'm thinking cool right so I spoke to a management I was like look I need an older woman you've got management have you OnlyFans managements they just help like sort of collabs they have girls they give girls to people is this like HS Tiki Taki yeah yeah he has someone behind him that gives him girls to get on his stream and the whole 80-20 so like anything on the stream here take a percent this is like this is like new school pimpin right yeah pretty much an OnlyFans pimp yeah so I asked I asked the management I said I need a nice mature 40-50 year old woman I'm going to pretend she's Bevo's mum and we're going to make a fucking lot of money so it's not your mum no right so we get to it so then me and my mum were close not anymore because we get to it.

43:33She's gone, son, I'm working 40 hours a week. I don't want to work anymore. Your actual mum. Yeah, it's my actual mum. She's like, son, working a lot of hours. I don't want to work. I feel bad because I've earned a lot of money but I've spent a lot of money as well and I should have looked after family a lot more, which I do now. Well, not my mum but I look after my dad. Yeah. Big up Pokebeave on Ebay and he's a Pokemon reseller now. Got him out of his job and he loves it. So, she's gone, look, I don't mind doing it if you want to actually do it and I'll go so had you already started promoting this fake mum of yours or did you just present the idea and she's gone you don't need a fake mum your real mum's keen I could do it I want to earn money but I've said at the end of the day you're going to get a lot of shit she's like I love it I want to be online I love that you've done well for yourself I love that you get noticed alright cool let me think this through so I thought we'd throw alright cool as long as you don't do nothing explicit we can run it like fuck it so what's the limit of nothing explicit Or just underwear.

44:31That's it. Okay. Bikini stuff. Do you know what I mean? So I've got caught. Bevo, you know the rules. My mum's sitting next to me. She's on OnlyFans. You know what to do. Blew her up. She made in the first, I don't know, what was it? The first two weeks, she made like 10K. Around about dollars, so it'd be a bit less, like 7, 6, 7K. So she's done really well. Got paid a bit at the start. But her boyfriend is a fucking psycho. It's not my dad. A man that she got with after my stepdad. She'd married with my stepdad for 15 years. They were together for 18 years. Bit of problems. They split up. She got with someone else.

45:12He was all for it because he don't work. He's a big dossier. He just sits there. I've said this to his face. We've had arguments on the phone. He's threatened to kneecap me because he don't want me turning my mum into the next Bonnie Blue, which I had no intentions of turning my mum into the next Bonnie Blue. So your intention was just to make a quick bit of dough from your mum's publicity stunt. Right. I'll take a little percent. I was going to take a lot more off this random woman. Yeah. Yeah. But I literally, I'll be honest again, I'll be straight. I was only taking 10 % of my mum, which I should have took more because she ran off with a lot of money, which she owed me.

45:41And I don't speak to my mum anymore now. Really? She's run off with her boyfriend, with her management looking after her. And yeah, I don't speak to her. So has she now gone down a heavier route on her? I don't know what she does anymore. Have people not told you? Because surely there's people out there that have... Which, again, which makes me a bit happy because if she was doing full-on sex tapes on there or crazy shit, someone would have sent me it. Do you know what I mean? Which she hasn't, so I'm scared. I don't know what she does on there anymore. What Jack's asked you earlier about, how do you feel about your kids seeing it later?

46:11And you're saying, I don't care, but you're now openly saying you hate that your mum does it. So how would your kids feel? I don't care what she does on there. I'm all right about my brothers and sisters because I understand the industry. Yeah. If you've got to get your ninja out for a couple of hundred grand, do it. Because she would have. If we'd done all this right, she would have made a lot of fucking money. What, a couple hundred grand? She would have made a hundred grand minimum. She's made 60 and she didn't even do anything. Oh, so if she kept progressing it, more people... But I cut her off.

46:40I said, yeah, she's not my mum. We fell out. She owed me money. She's not my mum. I have nothing to do with her. Again, now it's down the line. Don't get me wrong. She's probably going to get subs from this. If it makes her a bit of extra money, fair play mum. Do what you want. but if she would have listened to me and done it the right way she would have made a lot more money instead how though because we do storylines so she'd I'd have an argument I don't know so I have an argument with Jackmate and then Jackmate gets her on the podcast and Jackmate slags her off to me and then Jackmate gets me on then I slag my mum off and it's controversy it's storylines it's oh my god Bevo's mum's collabing with I don't know Jimskin do you know what I mean or whoever's trending at the time and oh my god yeah I'm with Bevo's mum I've slept with Bevo's mum.

47:22Go watch the tape over on the OnlyFans page. She gets another thousand subs at$15 a go. Do the maths, 15 grand, just like that. But then you're saying you cutting off your relationship with her then means people don't care so much because it's just a random older woman on. I'm doing this to prove a point because I brought her into this world and I'm choosing to get rid of her out of this world because you've disrespected me. The online world, that sounds like you're a murderer. Good clip there. I don't care about the online world too much, but she's very all for herself. She grew up, my nan and granddad are rich as fuck.

47:53This is where I've got the money instinct in me. What did they do? Is that her parents? Yeah. So my granddad had a demolition firm. He sold it for a lot of money and he wanted just to work. He liked sitting in his machine all day. He had his own firm. It's too stressful for him. He sold it for a lot of money. He just worked literally from 14. He had his own firm and I don't know what age he sold it but he sold it and then nah, he still works today and he's literally, I think he's about 65. Right. he's got his own place in Cyprus, he's got two houses. So that's where you got your desire for money from?

48:24Yeah, of course, because I worked with my granddad. So I don't mean this to be rude, genuinely, but how come you took from him your desire of money and not the desire of graft? Because he's grafting, he's manual labour, like grafting hard, made his money legit rude, and you're pimping your mum out on only dance. What did I say at the start of that? My granddad had his own firm. Yeah. So when you've got your own thing and you've made it and you've sold it for a lot of money, if he's happy sitting in the machine all day doing what he loves and enjoys, digging trenches all day or whatever, fair enough.

48:55But working for someone for the rest of your life, you're not going to make mad money. You're going to be stuck in the system. This is Brian as well talking about. I see it as that. Working for someone is only benefiting them. If you have a job, and I tell this to a lot of people when I talk out in public or I talk to the youth, kids come up to me, oh, how can we make it be that I want to be like you? I say, one, you don't want to be like me because I've done it very wrong. if I had it my way I shouldn't have gone down the OF route I should have been a mad YouTuber I should have been on the well I say the Philly and Chunks level but I don't want to be Philly so the Chunks level your level the YouTube level I should have been up there but I've took the wrong path I don't regret it because I've made a lot of memories sounds like you do though a little bit a little bit I should have been a millionaire I'm not a millionaire but I should have been a millionaire don't do that route don't do my route don't get around I'm uncounciful because I don't give a shit I mean I can say whatever I want within reason again I'm respectful but I say to them do social media don't care what people think and just see where it goes if you upload every day for a year you're going to get more views people are going to catch on to what you do TikTok is such a powerful platform one video again I'll say this to everyone if you could enter the lottery for free how many times would you enter?

50:05it takes one video to go viral yeah and you're well not my position but you could be in anyone's position so going back so yeah working for someone you're not you're not going to progress I feel like if you do have a job you need to put some portion of that money into your own business or social media or set up in a podcast don't get it right this probably costs a lot to have this but if you have this I'm sure you'd do well within the first year of YouTube you know and then progress like that and then eventually come out of your job so do you do you not feel like you are working for someone then are you not working for your work so your your granddad he he won't work for anyone he had his phone, but you're working for the clips.

50:46You're working for those fingertips. I don't, yeah, but I don't feel like I'm working. I enjoy it. I feel like at the end of the day, as long as you enjoy what you do, I can wake up when I want. I can go live when I want. As long as I do what I need to do. As long as I do my 20, 30 cameos a day. As long as I go live twice a day. As long as I do a TikTok, a reel on Instagram. Once that's done, but I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I don't get right. I, in some way, enjoy pissing people off. like with the whole rage bait because again Facebook paid mad money they're not not too much now but with the whole Facebook seeing the money like going in every day seeing all these old people comment oh my god you're a Neek you're this you're that showing off my Pokemon collection you can't afford that when it's sitting on my desk you know what I mean did you say your dad was a reseller is a reseller yeah so I I got him into Pokemon I loved Pokemon playing it as a kid started earning good money which is your favourite Pokemon Alakazam okay fair yeah just Harry's psychic we've got a few on our backdrop oh yeah I did we see that yeah so I've been playing the leaf green I've been trying to shiny hunt Bulbasaur and I still I still haven't do you like Pokemon yourself yeah love it love it love it love it so you got your dad into into retailing yeah so he's a hairdresser but he's he's got arthritis in his elbow so he's like son like you're earning good money that helped me out so I just I I bought loads of football cards like any Pokemon boxes I open or packs or whatever Anything that's not big, I just give to him and he sells.

52:16Yeah. So he made, with the collection I left behind and moved out, I left about three, four grand's worth of stuff there. He just sold it all. And then with that, he buys bulk collections for cheaper and he resells them for more. Is that his job now? Half and half, he still does his main clients and hairdressing. And then he does that on the side as well. So he does like 10 to 20 orders a day. And I'm proud of him. I mean, he comes to a stage where he was like letting himself go a bit. Yeah. But now he sort of, for for the sake of he enjoys, I'm proud of him. Can't you do that then? If you've got the skills to do that.

52:48I've done Bevo's breaks, but I've got a lot of hate and I was getting a lot of one-star reviews and I wasn't getting paid. So it's the rage bait that affects stuff like that. So I can't do good anymore. I have to be a cunt. Right. Is that just because people, if they're going to see you, they want to see the kick version. They want to see Bevo. They want to see me being a twat. So as I've said, if I go to America, I'm going to get some big black security guards. You'd be a twat because if people want to see that, that's what they want to see. Is that for like IRL streams? So if you're... I'll get a lot of shit.

53:16I went Benidorm last week and I literally done one stream without security and I had so many people trying to fight me. I had some like Albanian guy like iron up my chain and I'm like, bro, it's Moise Knight's worth about 300 quid. If you want it, I'll give it to you. Like, I'm not trying to fight. I'm not a fighter. I'm a lover. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So when... Right. We've gone all over the place. Yeah, but I like it. But like, so when you first blew up on TikTok, what year were we? I said big up 2023, so it's the end of 2022. Was it? Fucking hell, that's flown by. Yeah, no, it's gone quick.

53:49Yeah. So before that, you're still making content before anyone knows you, right? Because then there's one video that just blew up. So what were you doing in all them years before people knew you? I blew up massively at the end of 2023. Yeah. So the end of 2022, I was doing comedy singing. Were you? So Ring Ring Pum, the hamstring, that went viral. It was just me singing songs wrong. I'd put on a song I've never heard and just try and sing it, just for a laugh. So the first three videos went bang. I got 100K followers within two months. Then it declined. I was making money off Cameo, like the RPM thing, weren't a thing back then, like on the creator fund.

54:28Making money is on Cameo. I was renting a room at the time. So I was like, cool, I'm making enough just to pay rent. I hate my job demo. but I was in and out of demolition. So when I needed it, I'd go back sick and family. Quit it, done that for a bit. Come summertime, I was like, I need to get a job. Like it's not working out. I'm not making money. I again, go back. I love poker. So I applied to be a casino dealer. All right. Done two days of training, come home on that day. I was down in bed. I was like, I don't believe in God, but I was like, give me a sign. Just God, give me a sign. I don't want to have to go back to work.

55:02I want to carry on doing social media. I enjoy it, but it's not working out. And I swear to God, within five minutes, I had some random guy on Snapchat that I added from time ago. He was in Malta. He was with his friends going, big up Bevo. Like, you know the rules. I thought, that's my science. I thought, do you know what? I'm not going back to work doing a training tomorrow. I'm going to go and TikTok out. And took a couple of months, started doing eating. I was with Aggie the Gift. He helped me out because I got kicked out of my mum's because my mum kicked me out. What, because you weren't paying her rent?

55:31Yeah, I weren't paying rent. I was just bumming about playing FIFA. just gassing about like Pat Team of the Year and stuff like that. She kicked me out. I was homeless for a day. People say I lied about being homeless. I was homeless for a day. Right. But I tried to say like it was a bit fabricated that I was homeless but I was homeless. So you did lie? But I didn't because I was homeless for a day. So what did you say? I went on Tyrone's podcast Tyrone MC I went on his podcast saying that I lied about being homeless but I was technically homeless for 12 hours. Well you were outside then weren't you?

56:00You weren't homeless were you outside? I was outside homeless. Yeah, but I left my house at 9am today. I'm not getting home until after 10pm. I had my bags packed. I didn't have a home to go back to, but I was outside for 12 hours and someone took me in. Who took you in? Aggie. Aggie the gift. Would it not be better to just say you're sofa surfing? I know, yeah, I should have said that. Yeah. But again, I like that because it's controversial. Right, right, right. He helped me out. We'd done everything. I weren't talking to my dad at the time. so so I was with Aggie so I'm not trying to backtrack I'm trying to keep it in chronological order if we like that so mum kicked me out she was with the boyfriend she's with now that causes a load of shit kicked me out stayed with Aggie homeless for 12 hours stayed with Aggie we was doing TikTok lives making money battling doing what we can battling?

56:53battling on TikTok what's battling? Jack make nose battling I've seen it I don't believe no I've seen you begging for gifts on the what? No, TikTok battles. So basically people can gift you and you can battle other creators. Oh, you're live at the same time. So if I went live with you now, what are we doing? You'd sit there begging for gifts, pretty much. That's what people say. People gift you and then whoever gets the most gifts wins the battle. It means nothing. It's bullshit. If you have got money, save your money. Do not gift anyone. I've made a lot of money doing it. Right. I disagree with it.

57:27Yeah. So we're battling, doing crazy stuff, stepping on Lego for money. Both skin. then I discounted my shoulder while I was with Aggie I was in the other room I rolled over funny discounted went to hospital we got some funny clips out of it you'll see it online yeah then I haven't spoken to my dad for six months but I was just a brain in mind so my dad rang he was like look I've seen you've discounted your shoulder come home there's a room there if you need it right I was like call Aggie appreciate you your hospitality yeah my dad's took me back spoke to my dad he was like look I can see you're earning a bit of money on TikTok battling doing your videos earning a little bit of money on videos he said as long as you grind that out and you can pay me 50 quid a week yeah You can stay here.

58:01So I've got a call. Go ahead and it out. And then this is where the new TikTok RPM come into place. So I said, I need to make minute videos. I get paid. We're just going to mash them out. So he was like, look, my dad loves cooking. He was like, look, just record yourself eating. All right, cool. So the first ever eating video I'd done was me eating an egg sandwich. So I always remember that. Eating it done well. So I'm like, cool. Why is that done well? I don't, because. How are you eating it? again you've seen my teeth before how I blew up I was eating just Harriet I don't know I actually need to watch the video back because I actually I really want to know now I like to see Harriet on that very first video that's not the first one where you're swallowing whole you're just having to chew at the back I actually can't remember Harriet I ate normally but other people thought it was interesting did you have bad teeth so I had bridges in so I weren't eating Harriet it done well so I carried on doing the dinners And what does done well mean?

58:59Pre-done more than 100k views. Right. And is that done well for you? For me at that time, yeah. Doing well now is probably a mil. Right. But back then it's 100k. Yeah. So yeah, done well. Carried on doing them. Effie's going well. Sorry, and with that 100k, you eat an egg sandwich, 100k, how much would that make? Back then it was a pound per thousand views. So 100 quid? Just under, because they disqualify something. So it would have made about 80 quid or something. Right, for eating an egg sandwich. So I'm saying, wow, money's coming in. And that's enough to pay your rent at your dad's for a week.

59:29Just for a week, yeah. So I was like, cool. So dad's feeding me chicken curry, chili con carne, chicken drumstick, Spanish style, chicken fajitas. He loves cooking. So I've done all these different dinners. So your dad's like your food pimp at this point. I do give it to my dad. Without him, the Sunday dinner wouldn't have come in. That blew me up. And that wouldn't have gone as well. So I do owe it to him. He took me in. And so this Sunday dinner video, how many foods do you think you'd eaten you'd done your egg sandwich how many videos you've made until you got to this point I was making decent money before I actually went clear as they say yeah like I was making a good three three grand a month right before that because the TikTok was paying good money I was getting good views I was known I'd say within England yeah but that Sunday dinner video where I ate the potato the roast dinner video yeah that just went viral it hit America I think it took time because I was in I was in Turkey with, not my ex, the girl before.

1:00:30I don't want to mention her name. I was in Turkey with her. I posted the video. I was rushing to get round hers. So I'd done that video, got round hers. We flew to Turkey. A week I've been in Turkey. I think we was there two weeks. I just think my father's got 100K a day, 200K a day. I was getting mad. I was like, what the fuck? And I'm seeing people on YouTube making videos on me. Oh my God, this TikTok star or TikTok guy has eaten a potato in two chews. he's crazy like what do you know what I mean like wow hit 500k hit a mil and I thought what the fuck went home and it just went crazy and is that what you mean when you say by gone clear is that just next level is that what that means yeah million followers millions of views how many views is that potato video on now roughly 30 million and how much would that would that video loan I don't know because TikTok only paid for the month right it took about two weeks for it to people to realise because bearing in mind that the swallow or however I've done it was about a minute and a half into it.

1:01:29Bear in mind, the video is two minutes. So it was on the back end of the video. So people had to clock on and watch the whole video to see me do it. Then it's got shared, go on Twitter, there's memes of me swallowing. Do you know what I mean? So it took a while. I probably only cut the ground off it. Yeah. How much did that one video change life off of TikTok? Like didn't, when you came back from Turkey. I was the man. I was walking around like, I'm fucking I had a rocket Really? What this how you felt or this how the public perceived you? I don't know how the public perceived me but I was walking around like yeah I'm the fucking daddy like I'm I'm trending I'm getting millions Were people stopping you in public?

1:02:07Yeah yeah I was bearing in mind so that December the tax man this is all allegedly I don't earn this money I'm poor I'm skin I live in a council house my rent's 700 pound a month I earned 25k in December from getting viral 25 ,000 some great British pounds. From that major blow up just from one month. And I blew half of it on FIFA points. But I packed Team of the Year Audrey though, so I was happy. So yeah, I spent a lot of it. But yeah, I was sitting with money. That was my first big pay. So you put 12 grand into FIFA? Seven, I thought. Seven into FIFA? No, I just spent. I still spend crazy money.

1:02:42Were you streaming it then? No, I was just. That is mad. I was sending my mate's money. I was like, yeah, it's£100 PSN,£100 PSN. I didn't care about money because it was so easy that I've earned it. I was at home paying£50. quid a week rent. So two things there. One, did your dad know what you were making? I think I underplayed him. Yeah, yeah. I thought, oh yeah, because you're paying 50 quid, aren't you? Yeah, that's a grand a week job. Yeah. And secondly, like, you used to call Jinj out, didn't you, for streaming? Yeah, yeah, no, we go into that. No, I'll be real. Back in the day, I used to stream me playing FIFA after the pod, I'll show you.

1:03:21I was called Beavis HD Gamer after Matt HD Gamer but you've taken the piss out of streamers before haven't you for streaming I see life in a different way now I'm 25 I'm getting old yeah I feel like sitting there with spunky hands playing FIFA for the general public if you're making money fair enough spunky hands what's that mean well sitting there I say this because I used to do it do you know what I mean you'd be you had spunky hands and you'd never get into it it's a saying so like sitting at home dossing laying about but just gooning all day. And FIFA, I call them spunky-hankers that literally sit there, play FIFA all day, go to sleep, play FIFA all day.

1:03:58I've done it, don't get me wrong. I'm not slagging it, but I see life as I want to travel. I want a girlfriend to live life with. I don't want to be sitting at home playing games all day. My game is real life, and I want to make money in real life, not making money either on GTA or FIFA points. But you just said you don't mind if people are making money doing it. So what are you calling someone like Jinja for? No, no, I haven't called... I only called Ginge out because realistically, my ex showed her tits to Ginge. I just didn't like Ginge from the get-go. I'll be real. Right. That's how she blew up.

1:04:25That was more a personal thing rather than... Did he ask her to do that though? Yeah. He asked her? Yeah, yeah. What's the context? Is this on a stream? No, it was on the KSI 20v2. It was Ginge and Danny Arons. Right. Oh. So she was one of the contestants. You know F girl that's gone on there. He's gone 3-2-1, show us your tits. Right. And her being her, she's a bubbly, jolly girl. Yeah. She done it. And she went clear. She made a lot of money. I'm not going to say exactly how much she's screwed. So really, Ging helped. Yeah, of course. And I think without him putting, like, making her big, I probably wouldn't have seen her at the event and I probably wouldn't have had a relationship with such an amazing girl.

1:05:05Right. So how do you feel towards Ging now, after all? I think he's got an ego. I think I've heard he's humble, this and that, but I've heard another story of another side of him that he's very egotistic. he's very oh look at me which I get because when I blew up and I had my virality I was like look at me look at me why is he here I'm the daddy do you know what I mean and I was like that which I get but he's not my cup of tea I wouldn't have a roast dinner with him is it but does that stem from the hatred of him having seen your girlfriend's tits I don't care bro people see my girlfriend's minge bro I don't really care at the end of the day it was me mashing her at the time do you know what I mean and that's me being respectful do you know what I mean even if she is sleeping with other guys to be honest where it comes to that point in the relationship where yeah at the minute we're young we're both good looking time isn't of the essence I'm going to grow up we're going to look we're going to decline do you know what I mean I thought let's make our money let's be rich now and live a better life in the future it's like we are but we're just not together so it's weird because like you're quite honest in terms of you're pretty much I've never met anyone who would do as much for money as you would right you'd do anything I just don't want to go back to demolition I don't want to go back to work it's like you're petrified of a previous life.

1:06:17But then you have a lot to say about how other people make their money. So you'll pimp your mum out on OnlyFans, but you're having a go at Ginge for playing FIFA. I don't know. I wouldn't have a go at him playing FIFA. It's more of Harry X. Like, yeah, he's won the jungle big up to him. I actually, I've tried to buy his 101 card on eBay. Oh, yeah. I was going to buy it. The guy lives really close to me. His 101 charity match. I think, I think it was your, was you on the charity match? I didn't play, no. I think it was someone else's then. I see someone else's card on there as well. But some guy was selling it.

1:06:50I was going to buy it just to piss him off. It was three and a half grand. Right. The guy offered, he was like the lowest I'd take. He had it off for 10. Yeah. He was like, I'll take three and a half grand. I was going to do it to piss him off. What, of Ginger's card? When you say the way he acts, pisses you off. It's a character. On straight, but then Angry Ginger is a character and then Morgan's the real. I've not met Morgan. So then you. Have you met Angry Ginger? Not really, no. I've seen Angry, but people have seen Bevo, but they've not met Bran. This is what Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins.

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1:08:33I spoke to all the other boys that he hangs around with, like Chazza. Yeah, do you like them? Yeah, he's calm, bro. He tried buying a football card off me. He was calm. So I've got no issue with anyone now. I think there's a little bit of hate when I was with an OF girl. There's a little bit of hate because at the end of the day, I'm going to stick up for my girlfriend. Yeah. And if people are giving her hate, I'm going to intervene and give them hate, then it causes shit. Has Ginge given her hate then, has he? Well, he was slagging us off when I was with Ed Matthews. He was like, oh, you're not making that much, but I had receipts of making that much.

1:09:04And he was just like, bro, fuck off. like you're a ginger neat joe. You're going to give it back. Do you know what I mean? It's a bit of friendly banter. Is it rage? Are you trying to just clip farm there then? It's going to get me views. If me hating someone's going to get me views. It's like Jimskin. I've been hating on Jimskin recently. He's the nicest bloke in the world, isn't he? By the looks of his streams. There you go. He said it himself. I do it so every time he goes live. Yeah. Oh, Bevo's hating on you. It keeps me... Relevant. Do you believe a thing you're saying then? Like when you're saying these stuff about ginger and Jimskin.

1:09:34It's a little thing. Do you actually believe any of it? With gym skin, I think it is a bit cringe, but you could relatively say what I do is cringe. I'm just speaking facts and truth. I'm not scared. There's no higher ups controlling me. I don't need to abide by rules. Is there higher ups controlling gym skin, is there? Well, I don't know. There could be. There might be. Who knows? Do you know what I mean? I'm not a part of that world. I do my thing. I sit in my room. Bearing in mind, I've sat in my room. and I'm the third most clipped kick streamer in England. And all I do is sit in my room rage-baiting people.

1:10:12I think that's an achievement. It is an achievement, but is there a big part of you? I feel like there might be a big part of you that... So, Ginge is going to get more views, yeah? Are we saying that? But he's... But hear me out, hear me out, though. Go on, go on. Hear me out. So Ginge is going to get more views, right? Yeah, yeah, of course, but that's another side. But we got... I'll explain my side. And Jimskin's going to get more views, yeah? That's the other side, but yeah, go on. And they're kind of... Everyone gets their haters. Of course they did, but they're kind of universally loved, right?

1:10:37I was loved. Right. And then the demon come out of me. What's the demon? I just felt like - The potato? Yeah, I coughed it up. No, where I've been done over so many times, I'll be real, I've got no friends back at home. I have social media friends. Big up Tom Birchie, he's been there for a lot for me. I have people I chat to, other creators, but they're not personal friends. They will do you over for a pack of biscuits. that's what I like to say who were your friends growing up then when you were at school you said you were in the Unpopping group yeah so I had I had a guy that tried grassy so I had two friends Alfie and Owen Owen tried grassy me up for tax fraud because he was a bit jealous of me and Alfie I was paying£1500 a month to get him out of his Sainsbury's job to be my cameraman doing the nightclub when I first blew up and all he was interested in was doing and just banging birds so I said I'm not dealing with that he tried splitting me and Sophia up as well so I said I'm moving to Manchester go back to your job I don't care so them two don't speak to no more and yeah that's it I don't have friends I just do what I do I make my money I'm friendly I will chat to anyone because I feel like I do miss that I actually I've said this to people out on Stag's group of friends I would give all this up to have six good friends best mates I'd go to work every day to have six close mates do stuff with travel with but unfortunately I drew the short straw I make a lot of money being by myself and it is what it is So I thought people would feel sorry for me because I've brought it onto myself.

1:12:06I could have had good mates, but I've chose the fame and the money. I feel a bit sorry for you. I don't. I'm happy. I do what I do. If I could plan my life out another way, I would. But I don't regret nothing. But yeah, that's a contradiction though. Because you just said if I could plan my life out in another way, I would. And then you're saying I don't regret anything. If three years ago I could pick a route, I'd pick the other route. But now I'm down this route, I'm not going to run back and go down the other route. if that makes sense. Yeah. When you say, you said your friend tried to get you done for tax fraud and you said because he was jealous of you, but then, is it not jealousy from you towards people like Ginge and Jimskin that you're then calling them out for stuff they're not doing wrong just because you want the clips?

1:12:49Are you not, do you not wish you had what they had? Right, so, there's Brandon Beavis, I say how it is. Yeah. If I don't like something about you or you, I'm going to say how it is. Would you go on TikTok tonight and say that? No, you've been great to me. you've got great hospitality I'd say this is pretty the best podcast I've been on right but if I see stuff okay i.e. with gym skin oh drop the shoulder or obviously say chicken sheesh or follow that tune don't get me wrong he's blown up for that like I blew up for you know the rules but I'm going to say how it is it's cringy yeah you're going to fall off within a month and no one's going to like you anymore why are they not though because people have their trends and they disappear is that just you looking in on how it went for you that doesn't mean it's going to happen.

1:13:33It happens for everyone. People have their time. Ed Matthews has been up and down. Hey Chess has been up and down. I've been up and down. You know what I mean? And this he blows up again. Don't you worry, I wish him all the best success. Funny enough, I haven't said it too much and this will be the first of the podcast. Jimskin actually got my account back when I got banned at 100k TikTok followers on TikTok. He actually was the reason why I got unbanned. So I have a lot of respect for Jimskin. I've found Jimskin in a long time. So calling him out seems mental. Don't call him out. I just say it how it is, as I've said.

1:13:59it's cringy what he does I wouldn't do it personally but you do do it though but to me I don't but it's not everyone who's doing any form of content online cringy to someone like some podcasts most people think we might be cringy when we make silly wank jokes on this podcast I don't watch the like if we make like stupid wank jokes or whatever people are yeah like stupid immature jokes we'll make them on the podcast there's four of us who do this and we call ourselves the foreskins people think that's cringy because we know that we're leaning into being cringy I wouldn't watch the Sidemen's content because I'm not the age of people who watch that.

1:14:33But I respect what they all do and they're fucking massive for it. But I think everyone who is doing any form of content wants clout, wants viewers, wants money from it. So everyone can say anyone is cringing. Let's get this clear. I have no issue with Jim's skin. I respect what he does. But online, I sort of say how I feel. As Bevo. Yeah, as Bevo, but a little bit as Brian as well. because personally if you ask me what do you think Jim's can come on or off I say yeah he's doing his thing he's making loads of money the KPP kicks making a lot of money it's a bit cringe it's a bit for the younger audience but I respect that that's it but again he's doing his thing he's making money that's all we do this for you're on this podcast making money on YouTube revenue do you know what I mean that's what we all do it for do you know what I mean we're all a slave to money at the end of the day do you know what I mean so I respect his thing but I just it's not my cup of tea do you know what I mean that's it yeah and yeah because you're you're a different guest for us on here like a unique guest right I see you had Simon Wilson on that I'd love to meet him one day yeah he's a great lad he's a great lad and there'll be people out there who's questioning why we got you on right there will be and I respect that because I think people are frightened to get me on stuff like this yeah yeah right and you've took a good gamble so I respect that we'll see but I don't want it to seem like we're calling you out that's not why we want you on it but obviously there's a lot of stuff you say that is contradictory.

1:15:55Yeah, of course. So I'm trying to like get in the mind of you. So I'm not a fucking therapist. I don't have the answers. Can I just, can I give you my honest assessment of who sits in front of me today? Go ahead. So like I said, I do feel sorry for you. That's fine if you want to, but I don't want people to feel sorry for you, but that's fine if you want to. So I think you mentioned you were at school, you were bullied, yeah? I gave it back as much as I got it, but I was the outcast, but yeah. So you're from, your granddad's got money, but you're not from money. You're from a council estate? Well, we lived in a council house.

1:16:28My stepdad had two jobs. Yeah. Yeah, my dad left when I was young but I still speaks to my dad now so which is good. But yeah, he grew up. So you're growing up. You also mentioned there that you wanted to be, you had like pure intentions. You wanted to be a travel YouTuber, Simon Wilson. You wanted to be like that, right? It's not worked out. It's not transpired. So now you have this love for money. You have this drive for money. You want to, event yeah deep down you want to do what everyone else wants to do in this world and you want to make a better life for you and you've i had something in me that wanted to do well and had the passion to do what i'm doing now yeah and now i'm here and you had you had and you had i think originally you had pure intentions and then you were sucked into this machine which is this like tiktok clip farming uh fucking not saying you're in it but like similar to like this manosphere shit right which we all we all see you know like the ticky-tocky stuff and people against that but Yeah, yeah, but I'm not saying you're in it, but I'm saying it's a similar model of in terms of saying stuff just for the clips, just for online clout.

1:17:29And from this, from doing this, you seem to have lost your mum, you seem to have lost your friends, and you seem to have lost your girlfriend. Yes. But Brandon, sitting opposite me now, I can tell you're a nice guy. You contradict yourself a lot because you don't believe the stuff that Bevo's saying. And also I think that if you could, I think you might have even said this yourself. You'd flick a switch and you'd go down the right path online, wouldn't you? But I don't regret the path I've gone down. I'm just batting along. I think you do though, Brandon. I think you do. A little bit, a little bit, but I don't, I don't regret my ex.

1:18:00I don't, I don't regret the path. Well, again, you say a little bit, but again, if I was two years back and I knew what I knew today, of course I would have took the other path, but I've gone down this path. I'm still making money. I'm still here. I'm still alive. again the saying goes you could have 3 ,000 problems but if your health is one you've got one problem I'm breathing I'm healthy I'm making money that's all that matters whether I'm hated or loved yes I've lost people I'm sure I'll make up with my mum eventually she's going to have to go back to work because she ain't going to make those money on OnlyFans for a long time do you know what I mean because she probably will come back to me which again I'm always open to help so if you're in a couple months time you see this whole new spin off of Bevo's mum on OF again you want your mum back in your life don't you of course of course So she was there, but she's with a not so nice boyfriend at the minute.

1:18:48And when I'm getting threatened to get kneecapped in front of her by her boyfriend and she's not defending me. Yeah. Yeah. You've lost your son, do you know what I mean? So, but you keep saying that you've chosen your path. You can't change it. But you've also said that you would give up all the money for six good mates. Yeah, no, I would. I would. So what's saying you can't, I'm not trying to change you. You're going to leave here and do what you want to do. But I'm not trying to be the fucking messiah, the white knight. But why can't you change me? I'm B-Fone now. No one's going to see me on for white.

1:19:16Why are they though? Mate, I'll be very, very honest with you, right? When I first started doing YouTube videos back in the day, I was jack, mate, right? And I would call YouTubers out. I promise you I would, right? You're probably too young to remember it, right? Which makes me sound like a boomer. But Stevie will tell you, right? I used to call out Zoella, Alfie Days, Olly White, all these old school YouTubers, right? Because deep down, I was jealous of them and I wanted what they wanted, right? I'd call fucking, I remember calling Calix out, Cal Freezy out. And then I started this with my mate he was in boots at the time, blew up.

1:19:46And now there's a lot of me that what I said back then, I still stand by. But a lot of it I regret because it's embarrassing and it's not truly what I believe. Do you know what? You saying it like that, yeah, don't get me wrong. I think jealousy's a... I don't think it's the right word. I aspire to be like the people I might call bullshit on or... You'd like to be Angry Ginge, I think. In his position, yeah. I wouldn't want to be him. I'm better looking than Ginge I think big up the clips you know the rules big up the clips you know the rules I wouldn't change myself to be anyone else I'm happy within myself yeah alright cool I'm not a pretty boy but I'm not ugly big up the pop smoke lyrics but I could have done stuff different yes I'd give it up to be a normal person again but where everyone knows be I couldn't get a job at Boots or bloody at Wetherspoons people would come in and be like Peevo You're fucking bugging back working.

1:20:43People want to see that. Well, why can't you do Bevo Travels then? You want to be Simon Wilson. Why can't you do that? And that's something that might happen. But you're too worried about not getting a million views a clip or falling off. That's why I've done the dinner... Well, that's why I've done me eating a chicken nugget the other day because I want to see how that's done. And it's done a lot better than my clips on my Instagram that I post. So, yeah. Why don't you be a food reviewer then? I don't want to be. So you don't want to be? Deep down, what do you want to be? Well, if you could reset right now and have the public...

1:21:12I just want to be rich, but yeah, you've got to do something to be rich. I am lazy, I'll be real. I'm a very lazy person. He's saying if you could do any form of content that you enjoy doing and it would also make you that money, what would you do other than slagging people off for? Growing up, again, loved Black Ops Zombies. Black Ops 3 was... People go MW2, MW2. My era was Black Ops 3. I fucking loved Black Ops 3. I tried streaming. It was so hard back in the day to stream because I remember trying to set up the El Ghetto chat link cable. It was always echoing and then like my PC weren't great.

1:21:45So it was lagging. I always had these issues. I always tried my best, but I could never get it right. Doug, you're on streaming games. Yeah, I enjoyed being a poker player. Yeah, it was good. Just doing a bit of everything. Travelling. I don't know. I'm not, I have a lot of respect for women. I don't, this is why I don't like Ed, H.S. because they slagged like the OF girls off. And do you know what? But as a man, if you can make your money, I don't care with how many boys you've slept with in the past, as long as we're happy in the future. Because again, we're all, but the social media nowadays has ruined love.

1:22:17I feel like we're not back in World War II where the men will be battling for their misses with the picture and you'll be living happily ever after. It's, oh, they're living a better lifestyle. I'm going to run off with him. But yeah, going back, going off track. I don't know. I'm in this period now. I've done a bit of kick where I've gone abroad. I've been with Tom Birchie. I don't know if you know who Tom Birchie is. No, not really, mate. He does a bit of travel. He does a bit of everything. A bit of a dodgy cunt, but I love him to pieces. What do you mean dodgy cunt? He just, again, people know, you know.

1:22:46I'm not saying too much. All right. I've got NDAs. Bit of everything. I feel like once I find the thing I love, I will stick at it. So I'm not there. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know yet. But deep down, do you think it's too, you've dug this villain, Bevo arc too deep now you can't ever be no I think something will come about one I don't want to do food food's completely off cards I'll do it here and there to get my views to get my sponsors to get my brand deals because I need views I need to hit fresh oils bloody blah so I'll do it here and there to get the views in I think I'm going to try a bit of everything kick I enjoy I enjoy doing the IRLs but what do you enjoy about doing kick if what you're doing is news but you're going biased no the IRLs are like because even I don't know say I was IRLing now and it's general convo people watching, people getting to know the real me.

1:23:36I'd like that side of it. So potentially that could come along, but when I'm getting drunk idiots coming up to you saying, I want to smash your head in, you're a twat. Yeah, well, they're fucking idiots. They're twats. You don't help yourself because you say provocative things online, but if anyone's taken that as, like, Anger Ginge, obviously he doesn't like you, right? And I respect that. He's got to say what he's like. Do you know what? I don't not like him. No, of course not. I feel like I need 10 minutes in a room with him to have a chat and we talk it out like that. But the difference is he's not going to come up to you and knock you out like these idiots on the street will.

1:24:08So that's why I think you've got to be careful with your provocative stuff online. There's a lot. Stevie and I knew that you weren't going to be like that in person. We knew that it was going to be a clip thing, even though we'd never spoke to you before. There'll be a lot of people out there that will try and snatch your chain and will try and beat you up for things that you say. You said about your IRL, people get to know the real you. Do you think, how much of the real you have we seen today on this interview? I think a lot. A lot of it. don't get wrong I'm again as I said my name's Brandon Beavs I'm from Canvey I'm 25 years old I'm a down-to-earth guy I'm loving I care about people if I had 20 quid in the bank and it's my last 20 quid and there was a homeless guy desperately for it and I knew I had food and a bed to go back to I would give it to that guy that's the sort of person I am um and I want to help people I'd love to see people get out their jobs and do well and it's like a guy at the minute he's my barber I'll tee outside I've said to him I said look he'd come with me in Benadol he paid for his flights he'd got on the streams I've gave him a mic I've gave him the microphone I said go out do interviews and when I'm free and I could do stuff I'll do stuff and I'll help you out and he is he's smashing it and I think certain people want to be helped certain people want to do this but i.e.

1:25:22for me I've tried to get my brother to do stuff which he don't enjoy he just wants to chill I've tried to get my sister she don't enjoy it she don't want to do social media what are they doing are they working normal jobs my sister works in a sunbed shop and my brother just claims benefits he just sits at home with his girlfriend which again some people are happy doing that not everyone could be asked because we wouldn't have a job so if he's happy doing that I've tried getting to be a cameraman he don't want to do it fair enough you do you bro I can't force you to do anything but if I can find someone like this guy my barber T he wants to do it he wants to do well I'll give my energy to people like that this is what I said without being called a scammer I'd like to have a group where you just just to pay for my time or just pay for your sake to get in and I do a little seminar like this how I'm saying right cool get your at get all your at's the same on TikTok Instagram YouTube have all your at's the same pick a niche do this do that you want to show people how to be a brand and stuff like that yeah because I feel like it's not told enough because I think there's a lot of people out there that could do well on social media.

1:26:31If this social media is one big pie and all of us can eat, don't give up people making millions, but as long as I can get a little bit of that big pie and live comfortably, a lot of people can do it. And it's not hard. It's easier now than it was back then. Another contradiction I'm finding is one minute you're saying you're lazy, but you're actually sounding like you're quite driven and you've got these ideas and you've got these ambitions. So how are you lazy? if I know, again, I'm not rich. Yeah. I spend my money like water. Yeah. If I know I've got big money in the bank, I'll be a bit more lazy.

1:27:07When I'm, this is why I spend my money as well. When I'm skin, I work the hardest. Right. So when I've got fuck all and you're seeing me mashing out cameos, you're mashing out five reels a day. I'm going live on TikTok. I'm doing 10 hours a day on kick. That's when you know Bevo skin. Right. Because I need the money. I need to do shit. But when I've got money, I do the minimum. So if I keep that work up, I feel like coming on today, it's given me a bit more motivation. I need to buckle up. I need to knuckle down. Again, I am Bevo. I am, what would you say? In the UK, I am a bit of an icon. I don't want to gas myself up.

1:27:42People go up to me, people go, oh, Bevo, and then someone else goes, oh, who are you then? I'm a TikTok twat. I'm just... I'd say you're a character. Am I up there? Well, everyone knows you. So that means that's right. Everyone knows you, but do they know you for the right reason? Because everyone knew... Everyone knows Bonnie for the wrong reason. She's up there. People know Bonnie Blue. Do you know what I mean? So it's a bit... But this is the main difference. I think you are up there in terms of a name. Everyone knows the name Bevo. And you're up there in the same level as Bonnie Blue, the same level as HS.

1:28:14I'm not saying you have the same morals, but I'm saying you're on that same... But the difference is, and I haven't met HS and I haven't met Bonnie, so it's hard for me to accurately say this or not, but my outside opinion is, I don't think you want to be known negatively like those two I think they can go to sleep at night with their head on a pillow I think when Brandon's head hits the pillow at night you're conflicted with you wish people loved you rather than you're infamous rather than famous there's a difference between the two infamous is people know you but almost for the wrong reasons yeah yeah probably and I agree with that yeah again I want to change my character around again when I find what I enjoy and do.

1:28:54Yeah. I probably will proceed more and progress more. Do you ever speak openly as Brandon on your kick streams? Or is it you have no choice but to go down the route of the... What I used to say, I used to say Bevo is Brandon, but Brandon a bit hyper. But then now I say this brazy shit. Bevo's become a very creature. Because again, I have my morals. I have my views. Again, I disagree with what HS does. do you disagree with what Bevo says though? as Brandon do you sometimes catch yourself saying something? is Bevo a dickhead? yeah of course he is is Brandon a dickhead? no well there we go Bevo's a loving man that just wants a peaceful life Brandon you mean?

1:29:37yeah yeah how often do you like ever finish a kick stream trying to get your clips and then go why the fuck did I say that? or do you just think something there's certain things to say and I'm like fuck I shouldn't have said that or I say the wrong thing or I say too much I've had I've had HS text me after a shit and go, what the fuck are you doing? That's mental. We'll love it. That is mental. I also wouldn't take any advice off him though, genuinely. If he stands for what he, again, I'm getting into it now. So if he stands for what he stands, I respect people for standing by what they stand and not getting pushed over, yeah?

1:30:11So if he stands on, I can't even say the word. Morals? Minerals? Misogyny. If he stands by that and he's on business with that fair enough but that's not me I believe women shouldn't be at home washing dishes like we're all human do you know what I mean I don't care if you're you're blue black brown whatever even when people ask about the boats like if I'm from Afghanistan with nothing with my family and I'm seeing people living a beautiful life in England which we do we're not getting bombed we're not getting blahdy blah do you know what I mean I am putting my family on that boat and coming to England yeah exactly as long as they don't do anything bad in this country again I don't get into politics I get what you're saying though

1:30:58you're a nice guy you are a nice guy and that's why I knew you'd be a fucking great guest and Stevie and I will get we haven't announced you as we sit here today we haven't announced you yet we're going to get kicked back for it people are going to go what the fuck are you doing and I appreciate you giving me a chance because you're different I looked into it and yes there's odd stuff there with the mum and with the... I'm not proud of everything I've done, I'll punish. Yeah, I'm not proud. But we couldn't find, and there might be something that comes out in the future as we sit here today, Stevie and I couldn't find anything that you've done that is harmful to others.

1:31:31You could argue that some of the content promotes bad behaviour. Yeah, when we were talking about it, I said, I don't watch much content online, but I don't know enough about you to say, I don't understand why people hate you. I think stuff you've done is weird. It's not my kind of... No, I agree. But I don't understand where the hatred comes from. I understand why people hate HS Tiki Taki, why they hate Ed Matthews, why they hate these people. But I think you are a nice bloke trapped in this lifestyle that has at times actually offered you an escape. You started making these TikToks, calling people out.

1:32:12It's giving you money. And now you want to legitimately live your life as nice Brandon with those nice views but you don't know how to get there now. That's spot on. Spot on. Yeah, I just need to find what I enjoy. I enjoy the Pokemon. To be honest, if I was to do anything actually, me going to card shows, me buying Pokemon and doing stuff like that, but I just need to study it a bit because I don't like going into stuff hard fast. And Bevo's fucked it a bit for you where people are ruining that experience for you. I used to get invited to, I know the London card shows, I got invited a couple of months ago on a message saying, is my ticket still valid?

1:32:45no response I'm like have I fucked it again big names are going to be there I'm sure you'll probably turn up because it's a big it's the XL it's the biggest car show it's going to be about there's going to be big names there there's going to be the side that's going to be there and I'm scared going up to them because me being me I'm like yeah they should be cool with Brandon but as Bevo going oh yeah KSI's got a big forehead Ethan ain't got a dad you know what I mean and stuff like that like do they think I'm a twerter which I don't care if they do because again we all have opinions on people but you don't want them to think you're a fat no no of course not and I appreciate what they've done for me they got me on their on their platform and it helped me and I feel like everything was in place to get me to where I'm at now so you're stuck in the middle now aren't you what way do you want to go from here then do you want to do you want to be the nice guy Brandon that we know you are or do you want to keep being Bevo at the end of the day I need to earn money yeah and this is me being honest yeah if me being a twat has got to earn me money I'll carry on being a twat right But if there's a way I can make money being nice, yeah, I'd take that.

1:33:49Even if it means I earn half. Do you have a house? No, I just rent a room. Why don't you buy a house? Because social media isn't an income. I might have views on HS and Ed and that. I'll give a bit of insight on that because I've got a bit to talk about. Have you seen the Manusphere thing? I haven't actually. I find it cringy watching stuff that I do. So I don't like... Yeah, but you're not in that. You're not in the Manusphere. You do cake, but you're not in that. I'm not in it, but... I don't, when it's like, again, I don't watch YouTube. I don't really scroll on TikTok. Where it's, where I'm in like the scene or that's like my job.

1:34:24I don't like watching other people do it. I don't want to be sucked into it because I see, I'm a creator, not a consumer, if that makes sense. Yeah. So I try and just, I find it a bit, again, me, I just like, oh, I don't want to watch that. Like people do like funny pranks or I know like cringey moments. I just cringe up. It's just not me. But yeah, I don't know what, tell me what was said, what happened in it. I can't believe you haven't seen it. I don't want to watch it. I can't believe you haven't seen it. It's not too much about the streaming side. Well, it is. It's about the stream, but it's more about the views they're having.

1:34:53I know HS has gone quite on kick, so I don't know if that was a bit of backlash. I don't think it went well for him. Have you met him? H, yeah, yeah. He's business, business, business, business, business. I couldn't, how can I say, you know when you're on a call with someone and you talk business, but then you have a little chit chat after? He will bell you up. I want you to do this and that he rung me up to ask about the Ed fight I've done that poster to prove a point he was like look I want you to actually do that what would you take what to do the actual fight yeah on his promotion I said I'm not doing it this for a hundred grand that's what I'm worth okay bye put the phone down I met him in Dubai with his granddad him and his granddad we had a good chat he was trying to slug my ex off so he's not a friend business acquaintance acquaintance yes I was more friending with Ed but Ed's gone down that path where he don't want to know me and he belittles me.

1:35:43Like a lot of people come up to him in America on stream going, oh, Bevo. And he's like, oh. But again, I was his first kick stream. I actually put him on the creator fund on TikTok. I pressed the button to start making money. I've done a lot for him as well. And because I got with an OnlyFans girl and he's like, bro, you should be taxing her 50%. I'm like, bro, I'm not. Respectfully, I'm not taking money off a girl that I've just met. I know I'm getting her views and clicks, but she's helping me get views as well. See, that's the right way to approach this murky world, I think. I'm going to take 60 % of you and this and that.

1:36:16Do you know what I mean? I'm not on that. Cool. Sophia made a lot of money, but she paid for a lot of stuff for money. Do you know what I mean? So it's vice versa. Do you know what I mean? If I had a good month and she had a bad month, I'd buy stuff. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But that's their vision with women, which I forget. Me, I'm all for the women. Do your thing. Make your money. That's it. But yeah, I just disagree with their views. I sleep well at night knowing that I've not fucked people over. And I feel like they fuck a lot of people over. It's a good way to be. It's a good way to be.

1:36:50Do you have any friends in this industry, in this space? Other than I've said Tom Birchie. He's been there through thick and thin with me. A lot of people only want you for when you're trending or when they benefit themselves. So other than Tom Birchie, no, no one has really. so hopefully you I've got to know you now and my man Steve here I like you I like you deep down there we go so yeah it's all about like Brandon Brandon there we go not at the feet yeah yeah yeah but yeah it's it's a dog eat dog game do you know what I mean so it's very I know it like I do it as well like I chat to these people knowing that I'm going to get something out of it you're playing the game playing the game but I've opened up how long have you been the game for that's the I've opened up too much to certain people and it's backfired I've said too much or I've done too much I've said some things that shouldn't be said online and they've outed it.

1:37:40We've been busy, it's nothing bad or anything, but I've released some sources and then they've gone and said it. It's a horrible, shitty little world and I'm glad I'm not in it. I'm really glad I'm not in it. Yeah, don't come over to this side. It's the dark side. It's even with our, like, because when you get to a certain age, you just don't care anymore. Even with our YouTube channel, we don't post click-baity stuff anymore. Everyone's going, oh, the clips have fell off. don't give a fuck i just don't give a fuck about yeah you escape jack mate in a way yeah but what was your content before i made a name for myself on youtube calling people out for still things that i think they did that were a bit wrong but like i i've had videos where i've taken the piss out of ksi the sidemen uh loads of people and then fast forward six seven years because i managed to escape that kind of yeah six seven i managed to escape that um sort of toxic character that i was playing like much like no and you know what me sitting here honored by the way because again i need to go on good podcast i don't want to go on a podcast that's again gonna out me or rinse me or keep stuff in which i don't want um it's good to see that there potentially it could be the bevo podcast in a couple of years time or do you know i mean there is a way out and it does give me hope and I'm going to walk out of here today thinking, okay, cool.

1:39:00I need to get on my grind again. I'm going to take in what Jack said and yeah, just crack on. So I do appreciate it. Yeah, no, I think it's been a good chat. I think you are a good guy. I try, I try. And I really do just hope that you make a travel YouTube or you do a food review channel or you want to do something you want to do. Ultimately, if you still want to do the content that you're doing now, then I'm not going to stop you. I'll probably I'll pre-will milk it again I enjoy the Pokemon I've got a very good Alakazam collection do you collect cards? yeah who do you collect? are you sealed or do you just collect slabs?

1:39:38yeah I've got loads of stuff mate I run a card company with my cousin Sonny it's called Cards mate it's been off of Jack mate but we do all the sort of like Panini Prism Tops all the football stuff we do loads of Pokemon stuff I'm going to Japan in two weeks going to cards over there to do so yeah I like football like with the football collecting but I've just Who's your team? I spot Arsenal That makes so much sense But all job Who's your sport? West Ham No I should be a West Ham fan You should too Yeah My family are from well my mum's side are from East London Right What major sport Arsenal then?

1:40:14My uncle was a glory hunter Okay But growing up him taking me to games I wouldn't say I'm a glory hunter because that's all I knew but he was the glory hunter so his family's footwear standard he was an arsenal fan so right right yeah um so it's one of them but yeah we grew up going to games and so on so are we gonna see you do more pokemon content and stuff i'd love to um just again the break in i've done the bevo breaks i work with pokeshed big up pokeshed um he's a whatnot breaker he's he lives local to me i'll go on his stream and help him out um but yeah just see how it goes again i like the football card collecting but i just find it where it's one of ones, one of tens, one of fives.

1:40:52I feel like when you buy boxes, I spent so much money. I'm doing that. I'm spending two grand a night on breaks and this and that. And I'm getting like a hundred quids worth of card. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. So I prefer Pokemon. You buy what you get and it holds the value. Yeah. Fair play, mate. Fair play. What's, I've got two questions. What's next for Bevo? I need to find what I enjoy, as we've said, as we've established. It's been quite a wake up coming on this podcast, to be honest, going over it and speaking to genuine people. Because again, I love speaking. I love talking to people. I can sit here for hours and talk.

1:41:28So it's a good wake up call. I need to just find a route something I enjoy. If I make content around that and whether it's going to get bad views at the start. At the end of the day, I've got a head start from starting from scratch. Bevo, should I be able to get views whether it's bad or good. But you say that, you might have a head start. You're also a few steps back as well because you need to you need to get people to buy into you now the way you talk as yourself leans more towards podcasting yeah i think because people don't want to watch as he said about our youtube like people don't want to watch a youtube clip if it's just people talking but people like people talking on a podcast yeah but without being able to call people out constantly there's no clips in it he's a character so that's the issue i'd like to see him do this travel youtube he's mentioned simon Wilson a few times.

1:42:16Go around the world. If you've got the money, if you're still making 15 ,000 rupees a month, there you go. Then why not go around the world? Why not film it? Oh, okay. You need some good people around you that you trust. I watch, so you've got the Harold Balder, Balden Bankrupt, Simon Wilson. Do that. Yeah, some other guys I watch, but yeah, I enjoy it. And what's next for Brandon in his personal life? I don't know. Love's hard. I've always growing up I was ugly no girls give me a chance you know what I mean and I've always said when I fall in love with a girl she'd be trapped the best and I tried it didn't work out with the situation if I find a girl offline or off camera she will be trapped like a queen and if it is someone again I'm split because I'd like a girlfriend in the public eye so we can do well together but and then ultimately I would like a girl that's off camera which I can keep private but have me time.

1:43:15Well, there you go again. That's the Bevo versus Brandon. I think Bevo. Bevo wants the public eye girl. Bevo would love a fucking sexy OF girl next to him that can make him loads of money, make her loads of money and have a good time of a night. But then Brandon does want just a lover girl that fancies the shit out of me that was just travel behind the scenes. But again, you have to live on a farm, eat potatoes. There you go. But ultimately it's hard when she has a job because my lifestyle is crazy. and it's hard to I'd love a girl well I'd love a rich girl but I'd love an unemployed girl that I can look after so it's a hard one so we're not there yet we're single we're we're just doing my thing and being up being the third biggest English clip in England and 21st in the world but again a bit of rage bait but I love it so are we going to see you all kick any time soon nah mate nah nah nah nah there well we if this falls off we'll see I might we'll start slagging people off again joining the manosphere but when you say manosphere what describe that because I don't understand I'm a bit back not backwards it's a fictional well it's a fictional place it's an ideology in which women should be a certain way men should be in control of everything and and what's your take on that well it's all fucking bollocks it is absolutely all bollocks we've got my fiance of 11 years around there Fiona who is the absolute backbone of this podcast.

1:44:44And without her, we wouldn't be anywhere we were today. People used to say I was the most inconsistent content creator in the world. Met Fiona. She went, she was on top of me. Do it, do it, do it, do it. And then one thing, we blew up. This is what I've always been, because again, if you do, I love history. Again, history. You do, you do. I do love history. Just start speaking fluent German or saying that would be quite funny to show the internet when it's German. You can do it. Do you know what I mean? Again, if you look at the war, without the women in the factories, the tanks, The aircraft, the guns won't be built.

1:45:14Exactly that. And without them, what are the men doing? What? Having fistfights on the front lines. Do you know what I mean? So again, I have a lot of time for the women and big up the women. All of them. There we go. And big up Fiona as well. In a respectful way. There we go. This has been Jackmates Happy Hour podcast with me, Jackmates, Stevie White, and Bevo? Brandon? I'm not quite sure. Brandon, what's the meaning of life? What's the meaning of life? Meaning of life, we're here for a good time, not a long time. Make your money. Don't care what anyone else thinks. And just be happy. I feel like...

1:45:48I see people protest. And I think, like, have you not got a job or a wife and kids to go home to? So just focus on yourself. Don't get wrong. Live by... Stand by what you live by. But I feel like that's out of pay grade. And just do what you love and enjoy. Be happy. Be happy. That's the main thing. There we go. I think I know the rules now. Yeah. Cheers, mate. Thank you very much. Thank you.

1:46:13Jack makes happy hour.

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