649 - Stevie’s Syndromes

25:00So let's just not laugh at this. Yeah, it's traumatic. Do you know what? Have a bit of fucking respect, mate. John. Go on, press play. Thank you. No, I need a minute. I'm going to close my eyes. Go on. He's gone before anything happens. Till recently. So, fish and chips. Chips. I say that, right? Yeah. Three and a half years ago, she was rushed into hospital with a migraine, which left her with a voice she didn't recognise. I have not actually heard my voice in a conversation for nearly three years now. Oh, my God.

25:41I don't know about this. I don't know about this. I'm not crying. No, it's fine. It's because I said don't laugh. I'm not crying. That was actually a nightmare. Alfie telling us not to laugh has caused us all to laugh, but also we're not laughing at the Chinese accent. We're laughing because it's a woman from Plymouth. It's fucking amazing. Yeah. Stop it. Just cut me out. Take me out of the pod. Fucking hell. So, foreign accent syndrome. I don't know about this. No, it's fine. It's on the line. I think we're fine. Foreign accent syndrome. I don't want it to come across like we're laughing at the Chinese accent.

26:14But we know. Why would we be laughing at a Chinese accent, though? But it's because it comes from a woman from Plymouth. I can't believe that this is a real thing. But the reason why I just need to bring it like, I'm not trying to be all woke or whatever, but it's like we're laughing at someone with Tourette's. Let's cut it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, let's cut it. We're laughing at somebody with a... No, but when Sweet Anita did certain parts of her Tourette's, she's going, wanker or something, you do laugh. Do you? She laughs. That's out of order. I didn't. No, because you're not laughing at them.

26:45You're not laughing at them. It's just like it's a natural... Okay, I don't know. But also, I don't think you're the voice of reason. All right, John. All right, John. So actually, does that stay in or does that go?

27:00Cut. I think we all laughed because we were told we weren't allowed to laugh. It's made us laugh. I knew I couldn't. Also, if that was just - That was nasty of me. But if that was just a Chinese person doing that, we wouldn't have laughed. It's because of the exact situation. If that was a Chinese person on the news talking about fish and chips, I'd be like, all right, it's a Chinese person on the news. But because it's this woman, white woman from Plymouth, who's had a Plymouth accent and then she rocks out that, That would have been equally funny if that was an Italian accent. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

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28:49And the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier, so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together. Shop now at palmolive.com. Foreign accent syndrome usually results from a stroke, but can also develop from head trauma, migraines, or developmental problems. So what happened to this woman, Plymouth? She had a migraine. So she's gone in with a migraine. So when I said at the start, none of this could happen. She could. You could come in and suddenly be like, Hey, welcome back to Jackman's happy hour. that could be class. As Italian, it's fine. We're allowed. So why can you do Italian fine?

29:20Why is Italian fine? Why is your Italian accent so good? Why is Italian fine but we can't do Italian? Because it's about Not that you want to do it. What? You're acting like you want to do it. I want to do all the accents. You feel like you're upset that you can't do that accent? I want to do all the accents. Me too. But the whole reason it's fine for people to do the English accent and stuff is because it all stems from oppression, doesn't it? And where people have been insulted because of that. Right. Great point. But Italian, what about Mario then? disrespectful. Mamma mia, pizza. It's all the same shit, isn't it?

29:49He doesn't do that. I can do that, but I can't go. He doesn't say pizza. Don't. He's actually got a New York accent in a movie. Anyway, the condition might occur due to lesions in the speech production network of the brain or may be considered a neuropsychiatric condition. The condition was first reported in 1907. Wow. Imagine that back then. That must have been so confusing. That was before we even discovered some countries. Yeah. Probably not the one they were speaking in, though. No. And between... And between 1941 and 2009, there have been 62 cases. So it's pretty much like one a year. There's one lady.

30:22I'll show you this one. This one's fine. There's a woman who... Famous last words. There's a woman who wakes up and woman starts speaking Geordie. Have you seen this one? Yes. I haven't seen this. Yeah. It is. Now, imagine going to sleep and then waking up with a completely different accent. Well, that's exactly what happened to our next guest. Yeah, so 26-year-old Verity was born, raised in the West Midlands, but after taking a nap to cope with the migraine, she woke up sounding completely different. Yeah, before Verity shows us her new accent, let's take a little listen of what she used to sound like from one of her old videos.

31:04Put in, like, a few in just under here so that, like, you can see the blonde through. Don't want, like, loads. So what's that? Grumpy? And then, obviously, it's on my hair growing. and I have to take them out and get them really done, I'll just... Because then if I'm using all of them and cutting them off, I won't be able to use them again because my hair's growing. So if I just use a few at a time... Yeah, we get it. I'm like... Why are they playing the whole thing? Obviously, you know the place to look at me, but it's just so that you can see a bit more of the blondie. Yeah, that's out of order.

31:33OK, so kind of regular West Midlands, right? And then since October last year, Verity has had a Geordie accent, despite having never been to Newcastle. She's joined us now to tell us more. What a strange thing to happen to you I mean I've read a lot about this before I think we've maybe talked to a couple of people about it before But just to reiterate Never been to Newcastle No never I've been to like surrounding areas But for like a long weekend That is mad That's insane Not enough time to pick something up That is not covering your laugh We can all tell what you're doing That is That is mental I've got to giggle I've got to giggle No that's fine That's so funny You're also laughing at like the sheer Bizarreness of it I'm laughing out of shock.

32:13Like when I first saw Danny D's penis, I was giggling. You thought he got out on the pod? Nah. I had a cigarette in the end. I don't know if you would find that weird. No. I just didn't know if it was like a cut part of, you know. Didn't he hoggerette? Huh? Has he hoggeretted? Oh, he's hoggeretted? Yeah, 100%. Because he's a cool guy. Okay. So yeah, that's the first one. Foreign accent syndrome. Thought I'd start with one we all have heard of. What I'm going to do for the next one. If it's anything like that one, I'm not going to make it through this video. No, you're fine. There's no more for this video.

32:46How often do you come? Okay, nothing more like that, okay? This motion picture. The next one is parasitic twin. Does anyone know or heard of a parasitic twin? Is this the one with the two heads? Is this the one where you're born with a... Oh, that's why I mean twins. With a conjoined twin. And they sort of die, but they feed off your organs. Very good. Wow, Jack. Tell me what that is. A parasitic twin, also known as an asymmetrical twin or an unequal conjoined twin, occurs when a twin embryo begins developing in utero, but the pair doesn't fully separate, so they're conjoined together. But one embryo maintains dominant development, so they grow as normal at the expense of the other.

33:33So they should just grow as twins, but because they've stayed stuck together, the healthy one is taking everything in, all the healthy nutrition they need. They're growing as usual. but then it could just be like a leg coming out of a belly. How does it determine? Okay, right. And that makes more sense. How does it determine which one's the healthy one? But if it's just a leg, then it's obviously the one with all the other stuff. Yeah. The unhealthy one tends to not have any brain function. Stop fucking talking. Typically, the parasitic twin is... Doesn't that lose into a leg? I'm losing the nutrients.

34:05All the nutrients are going to... Big fucking leg. typically the parasitic twin is unable to speak due to an underdeveloped or absent brain though they may be able to move their mouths or hands right we can't fucking do this jack you're just gonna be laughing and nervous laughing the whole time we can't do this none of this is funny i'm being told i can't laugh i've caught it off him I caught it on me whatever put that on the fucking list giggles giggles syndrome none of this is funny but it just is because I'm being told the more dark it is what triggered this it triggered when you said I'm a bastard I'm a bastard yep okay that's everything for Parasitic Twin we don't need to deep dive into that too much move on we'll move on because I don't want to say anything too serious and then you'll laugh yeah yeah yeah the next one I was going to say laugh You probably shouldn't either But the next one is called Auto brewery syndrome Auto brewery syndrome What do you think it is Alfie?

35:13Brewery Brewery Yeast infection That's a good shout I reckon it's like a You get poisoned from the fumes Of working in a beer factory I think you're born with these conditions Or you can I think I think what it is is you you become intoxicated by oxygen so like the world is the brewery if you know what I mean I will say you're not born with them when the lady with the Chinese accent got it randomly after a migraine thank you good point technically no one correct auto brewery syndrome ABS also known as gut fermentation syndrome endogenous ethanol fermentation or drunkenness disease is a condition characterized by the fermentation of ingested carbohydrates and it causes the bacteria uh caused by bacteria or fungi the ethanol generated so your body is taking in these carbs and turning it into ethanol so your body is basically creating alcohol inside itself when you eat food i might have this you get drunk from it.

36:23Yeah, so it causes an increase in blood alcohol concentrations that produce the effects of intoxication without actually drinking alcohol. That's mad. So the disease can have profound effects on everyday life. Symptoms that usually accompany ABS include elevated blood alcohol levels, slurred speech, stumbling, loss of motor functions, dizziness and belching. So they can just be eating food and then just be drunk. So if you wanted like a cheap night out, I could go shut, shut, shut, shut. What? He's eating your ass. No, is it, does it actually create a gas? I'm, I'm shitting or farting out. Oh, I thought he was performing an oral sex on your ass.

37:04No, I'm shitting out into his I mean, forgive me. Did I say there's anything wrong with it? It is a cheap night out. I would love to see them do that. It is a cheap night out if we just stay in and I eat your ass. To be fair. They've snored. That should be cut. That is grim. Why? Why? I don't want to see these two eat each other's asses. Oh, that's wrong, mate. In the big two six. Frigid, are you? That's what it is. Homophobic. No. You showed me a video of your friend shagging a pizza box. What? What? No, we're not moving past that. What? Deep dish. Shit lawyer. Not really. Hidden crust. No, I think the video you were referring...

37:44Oh, no, there is a video. Yeah. You notice the hole at the back of a pizza box. You just open it up. You willy in it. No, there's no hole in the back of a pizza box. Yeah, there is. You get like where it bends. At the back where it has to have a hole in it to bend. No, it doesn't. It's folded cardboard, mate. I can't wait to make the hole then. It's like Blue Peter. Here's what I made earlier. Was a pizza in the box? No, no. It's long gone. Why has he sent you this video? Yeah, and then... Just to go, here we go. It was on the ski trip. Irrelevant. It's not a video. Like it was videoed, but I was there in person to witness it.

38:18You saw it? Yeah, yeah. So why has he done it? Good question. It's funny, isn't it? Did you find it funny? Oh, it's in absolute barrels of laughter. Were you? Yeah, I couldn't stop laughing. That is so funny. To be fair, I would... If you... It's the context, though, isn't it? If you were doing it all the time, I wouldn't find it funny. Yeah, I think his friends doing it, I wouldn't find it funny. I would be shocked, but I would find that so funny. Because it's you. If I had a pizza box here, and I just went, Al, do you want a slice of pizza? Yeah. And I opened it, and my willy was there. Yeah.

38:46Yeah, but you've got to remember, all of these are funny. I would love that. That would be funny. I would love that so much. Isn't it a little bit Olly Murs? No, because you're not going... That was the Pringles, wasn't it? Yeah. It's more like, it's funny when you're drunk. If you were to sober in the living room with your family, everyone would go, what the hell? No one said that. Why do you take things to places? There's certain scenarios where that's funny and there's certain scenarios where it's not funny. Being drunk on the ski slopes with your mates and they've gone, do you want a slice?

39:17and it's just his willy in a pizza box. That is funny. Did you know it was going to be his willy when you opened it? I mean, I had a... He was completely naked just with a pizza box. That makes the surprise not funny. It's good if he's fully closed. It's like a bad ventriloquist. It's like carrying a box. It's like carrying a box. You don't really know until it's open if it's in there. Oh, you... What? So if I came out now completely naked and I had a pizza box there... And you went... What do you think? Put money on what's in there. I would go, well, I'm not going to... It's most likely going to be his willy, but it could be...

39:46Pepperoni. Could be an actual pizza. Right. And actually you're not, you just got like, I don't know, some overalls. So where is my willy then? Just in their boxes. But I'm naked. No, but you, like I can't see this part of you because the pizza box is there. I can only see like top and legs. Got you. There's a science to it. Yeah. Oh, there's loads of it. Oh, there's another one. One time we were in a lock-in at a bar and my mate went, do you want like, is it not to the actual person by the way, but like, he's like, do you want the tip? And he put his willy on the bit that like you put your money on.

40:16Because like tip, Willie tip and like the tip for the bill. Wait, what? So in a bar, he's done this in a bar. Yeah, it was in a lock-in. Slug and lettuce was it? No, it's in our local pub and every like Friday they lock it in so they shut off from the outside world and it's just the people that go in all the time that can stay in. There's about four people like me, my mates and then like the two people that own it. And he's put his knob on the contactless. No, no, no, no. Like, you know, you get a metal tray that like you pay with cat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's just put his willy on that.

40:44He's like, do you want a tip? As in, like, do you want a tip? Who's he done that to, though? No, just to us. Okay. Oh. When you... He's not done it to a member of staff. Come on. When you're in the pub with your mates... Come on. I know you're not really drinking now, but when you're in the pub with your mates and you need a toilet and you're just like, I'm just going to go have a wee and you come back, how confident are you they've not dipped their dicks in your drink whilst you're just in the toilet? Yeah, it's only trust. I can't say for certain, but can you? Yeah. No, you can't. You physically can't because you're not there.

41:14If I came back from the pub and my pint was there and Alfie was there, I'd be like, what are you doing in a pub? And he's just like dimming his down. Secondly, I know his penis has not gone anywhere near that pint. You think you know, but you can't categorically 100 % say it hasn't happened because you weren't there. We can based on the people we hang out with. Give us an illness. He's that bored. Give me eight. Okay, so yeah, that was auto brewery syndrome. The next one, I didn't find out how to pronounce this. I'm just going to say Capgras syndrome. It might be Cagra syndrome. None of us are going to know, are we?

41:54You're never going to know. So this is a delusion or a syndrome. It's psychiatric disorder in which a person holds a delusion that a friend, spouse, parent, or other close family member, or even a pet, has been replaced by an identical imposter. I've heard about this. I've heard about this sorry? that can't be a thing surely all of these are things I'm not doing a test spot the fake one so there's people in the world that suffer with this wow so they think someone close to them has been replaced with an imposter I've got a list of all the symptoms as well for this a genuine belief that a close relative, friend or significant other has been replaced by an imposter a sudden change of behaviour when dealing with that close relative friend or significant other refusing to talk in the presence of the believed imposter feeling fear or anxiety in the presence of them acting aggressively towards the believed imposter this may include verbal outbursts threats of violence or attempting to physically attack them oh my god acting aggressively towards other loved ones who don't do not believe that there is an imposter so other loved ones who are like no that that's that is alfie that is and they'll get angry with them because they think they're then in on it.

43:09Right. So I'm looking at him now and I'm going, Steve, that's not Alfie over there. No, that is Alfie. That's not, that is Alfie. That's not someone who looks like Alfie. No, it's Alfie. You alright, Jack? Huh? How do you know my name? Huh? How do you know my name? Because it's Alfie, mate. How do you know the right answers right now? Huh? How do you know? Because it's Alfie. Tell Jack something about him. Don't believe. No, but I just want him to prove to you that he knows you. You can tell him something about himself. You look an idiot calling him Alfie, mate. If anything, I think it's a bit racially insensitive.

43:42You've not got any hair on your bum cheeks. What? You've not got any hair on your bum cheeks. How do I know that? That's a great question. How do you know that? I do. You don't. You've got crack hair. Alfie's told you. Alfie's told you. Yeah. What have you done with Alfie? I believe him. What have you done with Alfie? Yeah. That was not a compelling argument. What have you done with Alfie, you cunt? Hold on. You grow hair just in the crack. Yeah. Nothing else. Yeah, it is. Crack hair syndrome. You are a fucking imposter. And so how? This is the predicament. How do I actually prove it? I can't.

44:23There's no actual way of proving it. That's why I thought it was rubbish because if I say something, if I believe that Jack is not Jack enough, who are you to tell me that's not okay? I wonder if they think it's like alien or a demon or if it's someone that... Or another human who just looks like that. Yeah, that's taken... Yeah. I'm just going to quickly search, is there a way to stop that syndrome? It's possible to beat or significantly manage it, although it often requires targeted medical treatment and in some cases the condition may not completely go away, but it can be reduced. It involves managing the underlying condition, which could be schizophrenia, dementia or Alzheimer's, and then addressing the psychiatric syndrome symptoms.

45:05Is it a little bit, is this stemmed off of schizophrenia then? Yeah, it can be. Like it's a mix of potentially different things. Dementia as well. So it's like, but like dementia where you might forget someone. You still know, in this case, you still know it's, I still know that it looks like Alfie, but that isn't Alfie. Is there a way in which, you probably don't know, but you know we're kind of insinuating, right, so Alfie's the clone, yeah? So therefore he's evil. Yeah. It's big to Alfie, isn't it? Yeah. but can it go the other way could for example I see my mum and go that's not actually my mum this is a new woman come here let's chat it's weird that you say that I'll skip down to it I've got another syndrome called Fregoli delusion and it's kind of the opposite of that one Fregoli delusion is a is a rare mental disorder in which a person holds a delusional belief that a different people are in fact a single person who's changing appearance in disguise so you could look at go mum and look healthy yeah yeah you could look around at strangers and keep thinking that was not gonna work so wait so jack could think i'm my mum his mum his mummy but he could think that but he'd think And he'd call me mummy.

46:28I don't call my mum mummy. Call me mummy. Or you daddy. In this one, you could think loads of different people. So you could just be walking through the streets and constantly thinking, oh, mum's there. Oh, mum's there. That'd be a nightmare. That's so scary, isn't it? That'd be horrible. That's a bit dreaming, Sherry, isn't it? That is rank. It says it can be explained by associative nodes. The associative nodes serve as a biological link of information about other people with a particular familiar face to you. Is this a bit like that thing that was happening at the start of the year with Jim Carrey?

47:01Yeah. You remember that? Yeah, that is, that's genuinely scary though. What's your take on that? It's just him, isn't it? It's got to be him, obviously, but like, he just looks weird. So it's just plastic surgery then, isn't it? Plastic surgery and like probably a bit of a watchdog maybe. The way he was acting was strange. Different, wasn't it? That's the thing that got me. Yeah. Your face can look different. You know, like Simon Cowell had a big thing with his face where it was different for a while. no but now he looks great does he? I've not seen him honestly go look at him but this looks this is not just a facial thing this is like personality's completely changed because at award shows he was famously quite loose yeah but he's being really overly gracious eye contact PR robot PR robot we obviously don't believe in the conspiracy that that is not him it is him yeah yeah yeah it's him it is bizarre something's happened or he's fucking with us or he's mellowed out well he might know that's what you can't see a few years ago these are like the best actors in the world like he could just be playing a bit like the best bit ever and like oh I'm just gonna make the world like he's not really relevant anymore in the sense of like Jim Carrey yeah he's not he's not doing like films anymore is he Sonic the Hedgehog he's doing loads mate is he?

48:11yeah he's still doing films yes he's winning awards fair play I'll take it back he's literally winning awards he was at an awards yeah but I thought that he's just invited because he was like was in loads of really good films. Oh, like a lifetime achievement? Yeah. I think that's what he got, wasn't it? Isn't that what he got? I don't know. Something like that. Not for anything new. You are right. If you're of that level, you could just be like, I'm going to fuck with the world tonight and cause loads of shit. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. He might have just had a weird night. Whatever it is, is that we're experiencing that problem where you're looking at someone where nothing about them seems familiar.

48:46The face doesn't seem familiar. The mannerisms don't seem familiar. Yeah, but I think as we can sit here now and go, well, Jim Carrey these people will be like that's but not only will they think that's not Jim Carrey they'll think that's my mum yeah that would be weird yeah but with the imposter syndrome with the imposter syndrome one that Jim Carrey thing is a good example because they are constantly going no it's not him but there are people who don't have this syndrome who have seen this video of Jim Carrey who are still going yeah it's definitely not same as like other celebrities like Avril Lavigne was swapped Paul McCartney I think they say was swapped many years ago it's like what there's so many conspiracy theories no what you better notice that one yeah it's like a skater boy no like they're saying that avril lavigne was isn't actually the original avril lavigne and paul mccartney isn't the original paul mccartney like they're saying like they're really believe it they've got too much time there's a mad conspiracy a lot of people think that hitler never died and he went on an underground tunnel went to argentina and every now and then people take photos of someone in argentina and elvis yeah massive tunnel that's a massive tunnel all the way from germany to argentina going for a way going from what you then said about um just going to an award show right how who's the most famous person on like in in celebrity culture not donald trump not a politician who's like right now yeah most famous celebrity i don't know taylor swift yeah someone like that right if taylor swift never did anything again career wise how many years would it do you think it would be until she was not allowed to just rock up at like the Grammys I don't think there's ever a time where she no I don't think so what 85 year old Taylor Swift yeah because I think they'd be like this is mad you know like Oasis like the same she hasn't released anything for years is she going to release something this year no she's 85 I think she's got legacy tax to turn up to any event in the world now pretty much you reckon but Jack Johnson he can't just rock up at the Grammys no but that's the size difference I don't know who Jack Johnson is well he used to have one of the biggest bangers in UK history no combination of words I can put on the back of a postcard a song that I can sing but I can traffic your heart our dreams they are made out of real things like a shoebox of photographs and see if you don't love it you know it never heard of it in my life have you not genuinely never heard of that song we should have done the chorus you put it in but Yeah, what's the chorus?

51:13Ooh, it's always better when we're together. This is sound like the Lego. Yeah, we're looking at them stars when we're together. No? Wow. Wow. But he's are like Taylor Swift. No, he's not. There's no one like Taylor Swift. No, no, he's not. Ed Sheeran would be our Taylor Swift. Yeah, Ed Sheeran's a good shout. Ed Sheeran has got a high-hung. Ed Sheeran has never had a song as big as that. Yes, he has. Yes, he has all of them. Are you mental? I'd argue he's never had a song smaller than that. You don't know this song. I can't imagine Better Together would even know. It's a big song. It's like Jason Mraz's I'm Yours.

51:48In 20 years time, we sat on this podcast going, baby I'll be loving you. Remembering every lyric. We're not. We'll forget that. No, we will. We will know it. And I actually wouldn't have thought of Jack Johnson again in my whole life if you not just brought him up. A-team's already like 15 years ago. All right, Ed Sheeran's bigger than Jack Johnson, but Jack Johnson was Ed Sheeran before Ed Sheeran was Ed Sheeran. But Ed Sheeran's got, Ed Sheeran could go to any venue forever. Banana pancakes, good time. Make a banana pancakes turn like it's the evening now. What a cheer. Do you remember? Banger as well.

52:21Do you remember when we first moved into... I didn't even know that one. Do you know what I mean? Wow, that's a banger. I'm telling you right here, right now, Jack Johnson is the UK's Taylor Swift. Okay. He's from Hawaii. Yes. He's not even from the UK. This whole argument's been pointless. Monkey. Don't point at me. Fucking say that. You just slurred me, mate. You just slurred me. Why did you even say the word monkeys? There was nothing in there. There's a film with a little yellow monkey and Jack Johnson does the... Curious George? Curious George. What's that got to do with anything? He's massive.

53:06For God's sake. Don't make this. Don't take that there. Can we trim that? I'd love to trim that. I went monkey. I was thinking of the film. Couldn't think of the film. Curious George. You lost confidence halfway through the word monkey. So you went monkey. No, I didn't. It did feel like you just ran me. What are you laughing at, you slag? Fucking hell, Phil Mitchell. You are not going to get cancelled for that. I know. I'm talking about Curious George. That was a not really moment. Not really. That was what I was. You just haven't got another one. You do listen to the book. No, you've just seen the Instagram clips on it.

53:43In this same episode, you've just done that 12th and you were laughing at a Chinese accent earlier. Oh fuck.

53:51Twat. That is bad.

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55:53I've said this before on the pod One of my mates at school had a dad That did Acid in the 80s And got fucked up mentally So now stands outside Primark In Norwich as one of those robots That don't move That's not just his job That is his job, but he's monetized his condition because apparently what he can do is every hour feels like a minute to him. So he'll go... That is insane. I don't believe... But there's loads of people who do that job. I don't, but... It's like a form of busking. It's so handy today. I don't believe that. I do not believe that an hour feels like a minute. That's what he said.

56:28That's what you reckon. Yeah, that's what he's saying. That is not true. He's got a condition because he did too much acid in the 80s. So every hour feels like a minute. He'll go to work and he'll go, I'll do eight hours today, eight minutes. And he'll set up outside Primark and he'll go like that and eight minutes will go by and that's the whole day. His daily shift is less than the game of FIFA. Yeah, but then his life. So you're saying his life is going to go 60 times quicker than everyone's. He thinks it's going rapid, yeah. They do say life goes quicker when you get older. I've just Googled because it sounds like a condition I could have put in this.

57:04there is a rare generally benign condition where a person experiences a fast feeling that makes hours feel like minutes known as tachycensia fair play also known as fast feeling the rushes and quick motion phenomenon that would I would freak out would you not be so upset your life's gonna go quick yeah he's going I'd be buzzing he's got it yeah I bet I'd be buzzing speed it up are you sad no he's a bit lost at the minute yeah I'd admit lost at sea Once I'm found again, slow it right back down. Yeah. Yeah. Just right now, let's get through this shit a bit. Right. Cheers, mate. With us. No worries, mate.

57:43Stoneman syndrome. Yeah, is it that? It's not that. Right. So I'm going to butcher this. The actual name for it is fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva, also known as Munchmeyer disease. It's an extremely rare connective tissue disease. Fibrous connective tissue such as muscle, tendons, and ligaments ossify into bone tissue so your muscles and your ligaments turn to bone oh so do you can do you walk like a robot or do you just straight well you can't bend both so it depends where it ossifies so if if like say the tendon in my elbow was to turn to bone wherever it is when it turns yeah it'll be i won't be able to move it it's like tennis elbow but like all over your body tennis body.

58:29No, don't agree. Don't add to what he said because what he said is wrong. No, don't listen to Stevie. Do agree. Yeah, I think you had a point. The condition ultimately immobilizes sufferers, there we go, as new bone replaces muscular and musculature. Oh, so the bone actually replaces the muscle? The muscle basically becomes bone, solidifies. That's horrible. And it fuses with the existing skeleton. Yeah, and it also fuses with the existing skeleton. So like the muscle against our bones here could then attach to the bone as well. Honestly, I'd rather have a different accent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

59:04Attempts to... It wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be you, would you? No, this pod wouldn't be the same, would it? No, true. Everyone would be like, why is he doing that? True, but I'd rather this pod fall off because I've got a slightly different accent than my muscle being bone. Like with Stone Man, you could get stuck in seated position and you could then just pod. But like with the accent... Again, he's got a point. There's no point. there's literally no point I'm warming to him well let me finish it and see if at the end of this me saying this one you can decide which one you'd rather have attempts to surgically remove bone to be like okay well let's just get rid of that bit can result in even more explosive growth of new bone so the more bone you take out the more bone you get when you get trauma on the muscles or the ligaments or anything trauma can cause an inflammation which will then make...

59:55So when I broke my finger I can now have a massive massive bone in it. Does it look... Yeah, you can look at pictures of it. It's like, you can see an actual skeleton of someone who had it. I'll show you in a second. Double skeleton? Do they get bigger? Every time? No, because it does like a really thin layer, like the same as like the muscle. Sorry if you've got that. FOP remains just insulted every single one. Yeah, but the whole point of these is that they're like one in three million. Yeah, they are mad, mad, mad. So the chance of them, yeah, but... FOP remains without... Well, if they're stuck, I guess it's a good thing to listen to a podcast, isn't it?

1:00:37If they're just... If they're stuck, it's stuck down. There's loads of podcasts. FOP remains without a cure and there are currently no effective definitive treatments. There are intermittent treatments such as anti-inflammatory drugs to suppress inflammation as a result of the flare-ups, but that's it. With proper medical management, the median age of survival of that is 40 years. Oh, that's genuinely dreadful. That's so horrible. That's obviously the worst. Nah, having a leg at your belly. What? No, because you can have that removed. Having a big leg at your stomach. Yeah, no. You're not saying that any of them are good.

1:01:17That sounds like hell. Here's a... This is what... It's up there. someone who had it look his skeleton looks like oh he's done yeah all of that was muscle and it's just connected to his bone it looks sore doesn't it is it really really extreme pain yeah yeah it's not nice it's horrible I hate it I don't like the look of it oh my god sorry for them let me see oh my god that's worse than I thought for the audio listeners Stevie's showing us a picture of somebody who clearly has this condition and they are kind of like twisted and bent up into like a permanent shape that should does not resemble that of us yeah because they won't be able to bend because it's essentially like snapping bone that's really yeah yeah yeah there we go that is that is the worst one i'd say so far so you could break bones that we don't even have you know when people go i broke my arm break my leg yeah heard of it heard of it this one you could go i broke my side bit here yeah mad and then it would grow back two times as strong yeah that would be the issue as well so every time you imagine that every time you break your leg it's just bigger okay next one madness the body is mad it is Alice in Wonderland syndrome I've had it I've had it have you?

1:02:30so this isn't this isn't a thing that you have forever you can go in and out of bouts of this can't you? okay I've had this since I was a kid if I think this is if I'm right I don't know is this where you sometimes you close your eyes I tried to explain this to Fiona a few years ago and we googled it and this came up. You close your eyes, and you feel really tiny, and that the world around you is massive, or alternatively, you're massive in a tiny world. That's good. Is that what it is? Wow. So Alice in Wonderland syndrome, also known as Todd syndrome, or dysmetropia, is a neurological disorder that distorts perception.

1:03:10People with this syndrome may experience distortions in their visual perceptions of objects, such as appearing smaller or larger, or appearing to be closer or further than they actually are. Mine is never visual. It's when I have my eyes closed. So this... So what? You're just feeling it. So I'll be laying there and I'll be laying there in bed. Sober? Sometimes. Sometimes. Although... It comes up about more when you drive. Yeah, yeah. And you lay there, right? And you feel that your body's kind of like getting smaller and smaller and smaller. So it's all in proportion, but tiny. And that my bed is massive.

1:03:43and I could literally just like roll over for as long as I want and I'd still be on the bed. Wow. That is weird. That's not exactly the same thing. I've just pictured that. That is scary. This one's more visual so that they actually see it. So like in there for however long it lasts, it's not constant, but like when it happens, like I could think that camera is suddenly. It's kind of like vertigo. I was like, I was in your rear view mirror. It may seem close to me. I could suddenly think this microphone is massive. Yeah. And like, I'm actually seeing that. Can you have a look at my willy? these are actually the worst by far.

1:04:13I think anything you can actually, that's actually affecting your like senses, oh, that's too far for me. Yeah. No, thank you. Right. But you panic a bit. Yeah. Imagine if everything around me was just getting bigger and I've got to do this pod and I know fucking that table's massive. You know when you've drunk too much and then you put your head down, you get that weird. The bed spins. Yeah. It's kind of a bit like that. It's funny you say that because this one says, Alice in Wonderland syndrome is also possible to be experienced temporarily under the use of certain psychoactive drugs. So you can actually take a drug that'll then make you kind of feel.

1:04:46With over 60 associated symptoms, Alice in Wonderland syndrome affects the sense of vision, sensation, touch, and hearing, as well as the perception of one's body image. Migraines, nausea, dizziness, and agitation are also commonly associated symptoms with the syndrome. That's a bit of a... That's the worst one. So for me personally, that would affect me the most. I'd be... That would send me west. Would it? Yeah, I just can't do... Anything like visual that changes. You know when you like play football and someone elbows you in the head, you get like blurry vision for a bit. That for me is, oh my God, I've lost my eyesight.

1:05:17Right. Because I can't deal with that. Anything like that, I just can't deal with. That's scary. That one's a bit weird, that one. Yeah. This one's a bit nicer. Sleeping Beauty Syndrome. You can easily guess this one, surely. Go on, John. You can't wake up from your sleep. I've had that. This is not what that is. Is that a lion? It's just a lion. That's just a lion.

1:05:42it is what do you mean you couldn't wake up from your sleep I've had it before I've been like mum wake me up I can't wake up do you not have that but are you awake me neither surely hold on yeah but are you awake how are you shouting I'm like lucid yeah I'm lucid is your mum hearing that yeah I'm in my dream sleep paralysis yeah I'm in my dream I'm stuck to my bed I'm going mum mum and she comes in she'd wake me up my boy bogeys on the wall and everything oh have you heard about his bogeys on the wall mate you heard about this oh go on get it then go on I used to make a braille wall with my bogeys and myself what do you mean but well has he got like a blind member of the family no that's just how I describe it how it feels when you run your hand he's just making a sentence put them on the wall yeah got sent to tiktok the other day look what my little brother's doing fucking bogey wall, mate.

1:06:37Rookie, though, all over the main bit. Mum cleaned it off. Do it under the mattress, mate. So were you protective of the... Sorry, I don't know if this has already been spoken... Were you protective of this bogey wall? I wasn't protective. I was fond of it. I wasn't protective of it. You were fond of it. Yeah, I was very fond of it. You ate bogeys, didn't you? No, never. I've never eaten a bogey. So stick them to the walls were fine. You were fond of it? Yes. I didn't know that. I was fond of it. Well, you'd like stroke it at night and go night bogey wall. I wouldn't say night bogey but I would stroke it at night you'd stroke it you'd stroke it at night what else am I going to fucking do with it oh no it's not a piece of art I can clean it yeah don't they would go hard on the wall and there'd be some sensory thing I like like ooh the ooh when I was I will you've got me won me around a bit there yeah when I was a kid I did like to get like a big bogey and make it into a perfectly round ball right yeah and that would feel nice now stop now But I've gone to that stage, right?

1:07:30And then I've looked at the wall and gone, squish. And it's hard on the wall. It's like hard not coming off the wall. And then I felt that. And I've gone. I made that. That's me. That's nice. It's artistic, isn't it? Times that by 50. I wonder what that's like. So, but you know, you don't get bogeys. I don't get bogeys every night. I was a kid. I was a kid. What, so you're just fishing every night hoping a bogey would come out? What's Sleeping Beauty Syndrome? Klein-Levine Syndrome is a rare neurological disorder characterised by persistent episodic hypersomnia, so excessive sleeping, accompanied by cognitive and behavioural changes.

1:08:13In most cases, patients sleep 15 to 21 hours a day. Like a sloth. I love sloths. Yeah, I do. My favourite animal. Is it really? Have you ever met one? No. No, I haven't. I don't know that's the simple answer to that but my nan every year buys me like sloth stuff I get sloth stuff from free but this year I got a Christmas tree that we didn't even put up I got a sloth with a Christmas hat on did you? that's cool I've got a little grow your own sloth you put it in water and it becomes big how big? sloth size no nah probably about the size of that fan there but look at us Wailing Woods sloths warming on me honestly you are taking three pods Yeah, that's the effect I have.

1:08:58Two things in common already after four hours. We're both good looking. That's okay, we lost it. Okay. So 15 to 21 hours a day. Patients generally experience recurrent episodes of the condition for more than a decade, which may return at a later age. Individual episodes generally last more than a week, sometimes lasting for months. Patients commonly have about 20 episodes over about a decade. several months may elapse between episodes so it could happen for a few weeks constant sleep and constant sleep and then they're suddenly fine and then a year on or whatever Do you know if they report that they were dreaming or anything?

1:09:36No, it doesn't say loads It sounds like a coma a bit Yeah, well it says the other things with it excessive appetite and unusual cravings are present in half to two thirds of cases but I guess it's because if you're sleeping that much you don't Not eating are you? No and half of patients mainly male patients experience dramatically increased sexual urges wow when they're awake so they're sleeping for 21 hours sleeping for 21 hours wake up, have a cigarette let's have a fuck let's have a fuck who are you? let's have a fuck has anyone ever said that? no because I think I think I've got a theory about these guys and I think they're just lazy fuckers.

1:10:21Literally. No. I feel like they're just sleeping all the time. Wake up, have a shag, back to bed. No. Not a bad life. Hey, Gagey. Chuck a can of Guinness in there, and I'll be all right. Not a bad life for you. No, but if someone said to you that was your life... It's all right, isn't it? No, seriously, if someone told you that was your life, would you... I'd hate it. I would hate it. You're not conscious. Yeah, that would be awful. No, not all. If you had that problem, you wouldn't be like, oh, that's the worst one to get. John, you've heard that they have a high sex drive and you thought, I'd love that, which you already have.

1:10:59No, see, this is why you're wrong. Do you know what attracted me about that disease? The sleep. 21 hours of sleep is a luxury. No, that's never happening, is it? You should never say the phrase, do you know what attracted me to that disease? Ever. Ever. So Alfie, it says they do experience vivid dreams, hallucinations, and a profound sense of detachment known as derealization during their long sleep episodes. They often describe... If you get an alarm clock, what are they doing? You just said no with no factory. You just said no. No, because the whole point is that they're stuck with this condition.

1:11:36They just go back to sleep. Wake up, it's why you're late for work. They often describe the experience as being trapped in a dream or unable to distinguish between reality and dreams. So they're not even kind of aware what's going on. sometimes they're thinking maybe when they're asleep that is their life you know when you have a really good nap and you wake up and you don't feel like anything's real, do you ever get that? no, sometimes I'll like nap from 5pm to 7pm and I'll wake up and I'll be like oh my god where am I? for like a minute I feel ill as anything and I'm like what the fuck I feel groggy sometimes nothing feels real is it scary?

1:12:11yeah I always put my sliders on the wrong way around, weirdly sounds like a skill issue that I think it's a lightness issue like there's not enough light in my room yeah tough isn't it John it says they can be woken up but they're often difficult to actually get up and they remain in a severely altered state so even though they're awake they're basically asleep whilst being awake bloody sleepwalkers yeah right one more to finish one more to finish which will probably be the last few minutes of our podcast ever yeah going on what weaves and marriages maybe yeah Fee's already heard it she's alright Fee's left mate oh has she she's not behind there that's the beauty of not having a marriage yeah what you ain't got a woman to disappoint no family and a football club though I'm sure he's disappointing multiple women still yeah true yeah you're disappointing more than that's nice that's really nice what I just that'll do a lot for the audience mate mate I've just assumed you've got multiple you're welcome and you're disappointing them all that's on him yeah Cotard syndrome okay also known as walking corpse syndrome have you ever heard of this no it's a rare mental disorder in which the affected person holds the delusional belief that they are dead they do not exist they're putrefying i'm living it what do you want to know about it or they've lost all their blood and internal organs fucking hell i thought i felt that bastille gone to You actually had, you have lost your gallbladder.

1:13:46Yeah. And my tonsils, no tonsils. No gallbladder. No tonsils. Yeah, I'm like half robot. So you've lost the organs and you still put on weight. Mental. Why does that, why can't, yeah, can I not put on weight if I lose organs? No, he's just saying like you should have lost. Oh, right. Yeah, but how much does a gallbladder weigh? Like a bag of sugar and then like your tonsils are what? Half a quarter of a bag of sugar? Why are your weight measurements in bags of sugar, not like kilograms? I feel like everyone can... Do it in pints of milk. Okay, gallbladder's 1.47th of a pint of milk. Right. And tonsils are 1.56th of a pint of milk.

1:14:28Yeah, now we get it. Wait that one up. It's a good one to pitch, yeah. The patient usually denies their own existence, the existence of a certain body part, or the existence of a portion of their body. cottard syndrome exists in three stages first is a germination stage symptoms such as psychotic depression and hypochondria often appear second is the blooming stage full development of the syndrome and delusions of negation negation is the act of denying contradicting or reversing a statement belief or action and finally the chronic stage which has continued severe delusions along with chronic psychiatric depression so constantly walking around through life just thinking i'm dead they don't believe they're a living thing i think what i'm gonna say is gonna offend people that have this but i do think if i had this i wouldn't be worried because i'd be like i'm i'm worried about being dead because to me being dead is in the ground nothing happening yeah the scary part about dead is the blackness of nothing yeah right so if i'm dead but i can still feel me walking down the street doing a pod i'm like i've got nothing i'll be doing this in 250 ,000 years time.

1:15:33Yeah, I see what you mean. You, they still die. I'm dead. Do they think they're immortal, Stevie? I'm dead now. No, they think they're dead. Do they think this, what they are now is going to go on forever? Because you can't die again, can you? Yeah. I'm dead behind the eyes. Yeah, we know that, John. We know that. We know that. And that's as far as it will go. Never coming back. God, so they're walking out, so they're thinking, what's the point in eating? What's the point in drinking water? Yeah. I might be paying up to it a bit because why would you eat if you're dead? Don't worry about it, you don't need that.

1:16:05Well, I read... I do fancy a... Fuck off. Is this the one that I read? Are you dead or not, mate? Yeah, make your mind up. We don't know they are dead. No, because you've just made up that they're having a steak. We don't know if they're having a steak or if they're being forced to eat. If they're not eating... Oh, yeah, okay, I get what you mean. One of the case studies I read about on this one, there was a lady who thought, because I've got this, I don't need to eat and she ended up dying of starvation. Oh, shit. Sorry then. Ben did another one. Alfie, to answer your question, some people with Cotard Syndrome believe they're immortal along with the more common delusion that they're already dead.

1:16:43Rotting. So some of them think they're rotting. They actually think, like, get rid of that. That's horrible. I did see this thing once on Jeremy Springer. There's a guy who had a mental illness. Who's Jeremy Springer? Jerry? Jerry Springer. I mixed Jeremy Carl and Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer, guy had a mental illness. You can find this on YouTube. And he didn't like his leg anymore. So he was in a wheelchair. As you do. This is a real guy. No, yeah, but just go, oh, I don't like my leg anymore. Hated it. So he used to get feces in a needle, right? Inject it into his knee to give his leg sepsis.

1:17:18So one day it will fall off. You know what? I'm going to give you one more. Wow. One more of these based on what you've just said. Great segue. You know what? Just chop it off, though. I think you did in the end. next one final one final one based on there's no comedy in any of this there's a man injecting feces yeah well just based on what we were going to stop there but i've got one more that goes on what you've just said jack body integrity dysphoria right this is also referred to as by body integrity identity disorder amputee identity disorder and xenomelia it's a mental disorder characterized by a desire to have a sensory disability or a physical disability or feeling discomfort with being able-bodied.

1:18:05So like, I want to be disabled. People are living life going, I want, so they're, like to the point that they're like, I want to get rid of my legs. You don't need to comment. What are we doing? What, like what, what is happening? I can't help it. It's like a mental disorder. No, I'm not having, I'm saying like, we can't say anything about that. No, we shouldn't. No, because like, No, we shouldn't. No. End. End. Okay. People with this condition may refer to themselves as trans-abled. Wow. Right. Because they want to be... This has been a fucking minefield of an episode. They want to be trans-abled.

1:18:40Whose idea was this? Thank you. Him coming with these medical conditions, paired with Alfie saying you can't laugh, paired with two idiots here in the middle... Agreed. What the... Did you just say Hogreed? No, agreed. Oh, I thought you were like, Hogreed. Yeah, this has been a minefield of an episode. So I'll just part this on saying all these conditions are serious, real conditions. And we were not laughing at the conditions themselves. We're sorry if I come across like that. That was not how we intended it. Yeah, all that laughing we did. Weren't laughing. Forget all that. Forget all that. And if you think of a canceling us, don't.

1:19:15In that case, we're fine. We're nice guys. We are. We actually are really nice. And we always come from a good place. Yeah, we're talking about raise awareness. that these things actually exist. No, that's too far now. Yeah. That's way too far. Oh, that's too far, is it? We're not raising awareness, are we? That's not the point. He's not brought this one to raise it. Yeah. I just thought it was interesting. You should thank us, if anything. I genuinely... Good boy, you won me round. Yeah, but inadvertently... How did he win you round? He didn't say anything. Inadvertedly, we are raising awareness.

1:19:46People will now know that these things exist when they did it before. I was reading about them. I thought they were interesting. I like it sometimes when we learn on the pod. Yeah, we've learned. We've learned. We've learned. Learned that we should never do anything with serious... Learned when to laugh and when not to laugh. We didn't know, did we? I'm going to go sign up to Indeed.com. I need a job. No one's giving you a job after this. That's the whole point about being cancelled. You can't get a job. I'll tell you who has got a fucking job. Going to lose me job. I know. I laughed at it as well.

1:20:17Do you like that one, Fee? That's my career over before it was fucking started. That was so funny.

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