665 - Things We’ve Changed Our Minds On… ft. DRUNK STEVIE

31:22But they do that and they say, how long are you staying for? I said, just for the day. I said, yeah. So they said, you can stay for... So they gave me a visa for 12 hours. They'll get papers saying you can stay for 12 hours and that. What happens if you stay for 13 and you get shot? I don't know, but I didn't really want to risk it. I thought I'd just go. So I was there. Well, I got shot. I'd watched it. It's not a good video. I'd watched it. I was like, has an history gone wrong and got shot? There's not one person out there who's not clicking on it. Yeah. I remember when Becky and I, before I went to Mexico, she was considering coming for it like that and we were discussing what would happen if she got beheaded by a cartel whether we'd be able to put it she said I'd be absolutely fine to use a thumbnail holding her head equality just blur it in the video yeah perfect that's the other place I've been to that's not there's more exciting than a Transnistria I went around to Becky and Neve and that's flat did you?

32:10yeah that's my Transnistria yeah good he's on a super yeah I'm all for it no one's safe now can I before when you're going to open the next super hooch Can I taste it before you do? Because I want to get your disease. I'd like to taste the sleeper hooch. He's in. Don't want to drink? No. You're having a whole can. I'm not having a whole can of sleep. Go on, open it. Because I've almost finished this one anyway. A legend in town. I am. There's not much left. Yeah, you've got about a fifth of that left. Oh, it smells interesting. I like cola. Can I smell it? Yeah. That one's cherry cola. That smells amazing.

32:45It smells like it's got a little bit of body in it. What is in it? Because it's strong. that's actually lovely is it go on Robbie you can have it who's doing the brown deal now because this one isn't nice put this here go on open it Jack Jack go on Jack's frigid maybe I'll give this one back to Stevie and have one more sip before I do we were all about to have fun for the next episode I've realised I've never tried that one Go on I've just tried the raspberry one This is not a brand deal guys It really isn't It's good isn't it It is good You made me get two of these It's a tiny tiny little bit medicinal But it is good Try that one No we can't drink it No no I will not No no no no I don't want it I'm not going to drink it This is definitely not a brand deal It feels 100 % not Because that blue one shit Imagine if you're the marketing guy for Hootsh You don't have your dick out.

33:51I 100 % would do a brand new with Hooch, though. Oh, I love normal Hooch. The lemon one. Yeah, I love normal. I just drink Hooch so much. Why are we all trying to get... I don't think I love Hooch more. I've got more of a... I've probably got more of a sort of link to Hooch, because when I'm in the 90s, I used to drink it quite a lot, really. Waterfront loved Southern Hooch. Yeah, just tastes like lemonade, doesn't it? So good. This episode is brought to you by Disclosure Day. Now, for those of you that don't know, Steven Spielberg has got a brand new film out. Yes, the goat himself. And it's called Disclosure Day.

34:25Oh, I love Spielberg. Love that man. Growing up, his films were such a huge part of my childhood. I'm talking Jaws. Weird to watch as a kid. Loved it. Jurassic Park. Incredible. E.T. What a movie. I love how his films combine curiosity with fear. So you don't really often see the shark in Jaws, but you feel it. It's so tense. That's exactly why Jaws is in my top Spielberg films. I'm going Jaws and Jurassic Park. Absolute classic. Okay, okay. I'm going The Terminal, where Tom Hanks has to live in an airport for a year. And I'm going Catch Me If You Can, another Tom Hanks classic. And now, of course, Spielberg is back with his favourite genre of sci-fi with Disclosure Day, a film that asks, what would we do if we found out we weren't alone?

35:13I'm excited to see how he handles that, Stevie. And let me tell you who's in the film. We've got Emily Blunt, Josh O 'Connor, Colin Firth and Coleman Domingo. It's a completely original story as well. Spielberg, at his best, has to be seen on the big screen. Disclosure Day is in cinemas Wednesday, June the 10th. So book your tickets now. Have you been to any Soviet Union countries? No. Should I have? No, I'm just wondering what the fuck you've been up to other than coffee. I've been ill. I've barely left the house. I'd made up Cake Day yesterday. Yeah. That was a thing. What's the thing on Animal Crossing?

35:47What? Cake Day. I didn't make it up then, did I? What's the point? That's on Reddit. Cake Day's on Reddit. What's Cake Day? It's your anniversary. Yeah, you get a little cake next to your name. Oh, well, basically, yesterday I was laying down and Isaac came and laid next to me and he was like, I really like birthday cake flavoured things. Right. And I was just in a mood, so I just went, let's just go get one. You were in a mood. Like in the mood to be like, oh, let's just go. I was fuming, so I went, let's go get a cake. I was like, throw your face in it. I was in the kind of mood to just be like, fuck it, let's just go.

36:15So we just left the house and went and bought a birthday cake. I bought candles. Isaac said we had to buy party hats. So we went home. I lit up all these candles on this big cake and took it through and was going, happy cake day. Then we had a slice of cake. Then I drove that cake around my mum's house and gave them some cake. That does sound like you're just spreading your illness between your family. Yeah. Sorry, mum. Everyone have a bit of flu. I didn't touch the cake you know that Ariane did it so you just said you did it so why are you taking the credit well I she stayed at home though I did all the driving and the buying right you're just sprain disease you're like that you know that patient that gave everyone AIDS like that you know the the air steward or something the Canadian air steward I think so I have no idea alright you're him isn't there a thing going on recently on a boat everyone's got a rap by the time they listened to this that was four months ago yeah yeah Hantavirus.

37:08Yeah. Really? Is that bad? I've not looked into it. Have you got that? Are you the rat boy? No, he's not. Hantavirus, they've isolated, I think. It's fine. Sure? Yeah. I wouldn't have got on the boat, but it's fine now. Play on. Because I heard that everyone was on this boat, and then the captain came out and said, everything's fine, don't need to worry. And then people just started dying. Because the captain said that? No, no, no. I've seen the video. He goes, don't worry, it's non-threatening. And non-contagious. And then suddenly people were just dropping down dead with rat flu. What, in the video?

37:38Not in the video, you don't. I was not saying you went, you said I've got proof I've seen the video. I think I'm pissed from Super H. It's so strong. It's really strong. That is it in my head. You've got to do all three. Yeah, you have to. I'm not feeling good after one. Before we sing the jingle, tell us more about this flat. Yeah, oh, but Becky's, yeah. So I went round. Niamh wasn't there. Oh, God. Message Niamh. Yeah. Say, are you around? I'm popping around today because I raised you with Becky. So I'm popping around today. Are you in? She'd have a quite long voice note about how angry she was and um about what that wasn't good that i'd picked a team when she wasn't there oh right okay um i bought them a pop plant yeah that's what you do when someone gets a house yeah you bought me a salt and pepper shaker that says coke and heroin on it yeah well you're different it was all poplar for you um the videos i've got of jack's micropenis would uh say otherwise No, so I put Niamh in charge of pot plant because Niamh's like the grown-up.

38:39So I thought, went round. And bear in mind, they've only had the pot plant for three weeks or something. This pot plant's fucked, mate. Pot plant dead? No, not dead. It's like, it's not in a good way. It looks like it's been on my salt and pepper shake. It looks like it's been on that quite a bit. First of all, it's an indoor pot plant. It's outside on their balcony. It's got the edges of the leaves have all gone. And I was like, And I said to Becky and I said, what the fuck's happened to pot plant? And they said, we were telling Niamh this. She said, Niamh's not done any research on pot plant.

39:14Niamh has fucked up the pot plant. And then I messaged her about this. Didn't take it well, the criticism. What, what'd she say? It was just a bit like, she got a bit defensive, if I'm honest. Niamh, if you're listening, you did get defensive. And then she was saying, I'll soak it in water. No, you're watering it too much. You're over watering the pot plant. You need to look up the instructions of the pop plant. There's a thing on it. You can scan it. QR code. Tell you about the pop plant. You weren't bothered watching Bolton probably in the playoffs. Well, probably, yeah. But I mean, it's... So, yeah.

39:41So, all I'll say is, Niamh is not the one to be in charge of the pop plant. I'm taking her off the pop plant. Right. Who's on it now, then? I think Lizzie. Okay. That seems quite sensible out of them. Did you bring it inside? Yeah, I brought it inside, yeah. Having that. But, yeah. Nice flat. Yeah. What did you get around there for? Just to see him? I was in London. Bev and I were staying down the night before and then I was meeting up with my brother later on to go to some talk event thing that he was going to. So I just had a few hours to kill while Bev had gone off to look at the Tracy Emin exhibition and I went to hang out with some idiots.

40:19Fair enough. Essentially, yeah. Fair enough, right. Well, I guess that's us all caught up, baby. You're all super hooched up. I like it. Now, we were on the way up today. we thought right let's pick an idea that the listeners have suggested um and we found a listener idea from reddit my favorite place the spiritual home of happy hour uh and we the idea was basically that the the post read something along the lines of the guys have changed so much over the years of doing happy hour i want to know if they've ever changed their mind on things which i thought was quite an interesting concept i will say we put it in the group chat said robbie you're already here we were like think of some things you change your mind on Stevie and I were hammering away our ideas and then we realised that the idea suggestion was four years ago okay yeah Lucy016 who I imagine is Lucy020 now good very good suggested this and we're going to do it so I've had a little think and I know you boys have and we're just going to riff off of each other's riff off of each other I like that you're explaining how to do the Yeah, what we're going to do is someone's going to speak and then other people are going to react to what they've said by saying things themselves.

41:36Kind of like in a conversational style. They've said episode idea, things we've changed our minds about. This Lucy probably doesn't listen to anyone. How did you find this? Did you just type in episode idea to Reddit? On the Reddit, yeah. Think it would be interesting to hear the opinions slash views that the boys have changed their minds about, whether it's funny, small opinions or serious life choices, ideas they now see differently. reckon it would be interesting to see the difference in opinions between someone in their 40s versus lads in their 20s we're no longer in our 20s he's almost 50 imagine if Lucy has then she's now an adult maybe she was a teenager at the time she's now an adult has recently been appointed the marketing director of Hooch what a day she's having or maybe it's got so meta that she's changed her mind and now no longer Lucy if you are out there Do let us know.

42:27Get in touch on the Reddit. If she's the marketing director for Hooch in Transnistria. Oh, cool. Right, that's a world I want to live in. Who wants to kick on? You kick us off then, little sick Hooch boy. So something I've changed. The Marge thing. I'm not well. Oh, I'm going to go in with something I've slagged off a lot on this podcast. London. I've changed my mind on London. No, you haven't. No way. i've changed my mind on london thanks to jack and i filmed a jack and stevie video which was good versus bad and the whole concept was that one of us we have to flip a coin and whoever gets the coin flip gets to go and do the good thing in london the other one has to go and do the bad thing so one of us would get the worst rated cafe for lunch and then one of us would get like a five star hotel but the first flip of the day was for where we had to go and we got a bad flip which meant we had to do the video in London.

43:23We picked Liverpool as good, London as bad. But that whole day we did multiple different things. I had to go to Madame Tussauds on my own. So little things like that I don't really class that as London but I had such a good day that day and I've realised it's not London I have the problem with it's the miserable cunts. You hate foreigners? No. You always say that? No. No. No. No, that's one of the things he changes his opinion. Oh right, he likes them now. If anything it's more the locals they're just miserable yeah it's the locals but the place if you come I'd hate to live here I would absolutely hate to live in London sounds like you hate it no but it's not it does nothing you've said has made you think you've changed your mind I hate the locals and the place I hate the people and the place I'd kill myself if I'd live here no because I don't hate the place there's so much to do here and you'd always find something to do if you could just if everyone was just happier it would be such a good place to be I didn't find when I lived here for quite a long time that everyone was unhappy.

44:24I think you might just be, it might just be the people that are in Madame Tussauds. No, people in Madame Tussauds happy. Were they? Because they wanted to be, they've chose, they didn't get the bad coin flip and had to be there. Yeah. They wanted to be in there. They got the bad coin flip of life. Not a Madame Tussauds brand deal. Well, I just think that London, I think driving in London is fucking horrific, isn't it? Yeah. It's terrible. And people, it does seem that the other drivers are cunts in London. Yeah, but that's because they're used to having no choice but to do that. It's cunt or be cunted, isn't it?

44:56They have to become the cunt, otherwise they get cunted on. Yeah. Right? But you can't move for cunts. Cyclists, no. Yeah, cyclists, cunts. They'll cut you up and they'll go over a red. Yeah. And then they'll get hit and wonder why they're hit. Red. Cyclists in Norwich, lovely. Legend. People in Norwich let you out, sort of do you handy when you go past. Like, honestly, it's that different. It feels that different. Yeah. The prices of London are mental. Yeah. What was it? £10.50 I paid for like a Budweiser. But people will be earning more money in London as well, probably, on average. Yeah, that's true.

45:30But can you justify£10.50 for a pint of Budweiser? I think that's an outlier, but yes, it is very expensive. Right. Yes. Yeah, okay. One of the good things about London, the pubs. So old school. I spent a week in Leicester Square recently, right? Which is not the best place in London, is it? It's a bit touristy, a bit. The prices are high. Like there's a pub just opposite Leicester Square, which I thought would be proper tourist trap. It was like going back to like the 90s, how I imagined pubs were in the 90s. They were playing like old school tunes. It was phenomenal. It was great. That made me like London.

46:01That's what I'm saying. You'll never struggle to find something to do here, albeit maybe expensive, but like you can also just find like a random little cafe that probably does some amazing food. And like you never, like sometimes when you're in like even Norwich, we're so used to being there, obviously it's struggled to find something new to do. Yeah. But no matter how long you stay in London, I think you'll always find something new. There's always things. I used to go, when I was in my 20s, I'd be going to gigs like three times a week. There's bands that will never go anywhere else in the country, the bands from America that come over.

46:31I've seen huge bands in tiny little venues and stuff like that. I saw Arcade Fire in this tiny little hall, a couple hundred people saw. Kanye West in a church, I think. Old Kanye. Not recently. Yeah, last week. in an alley yeah so so yeah you get to see some great things and like the theatre and stuff like that other things like in Norwich we've got good theatres in Norwich you'll see things that are touring around whereas you don't see as many of those little independent-y things yeah I've started a little theatre club have you? yeah you're very welcome to join if you want to come what does that mean?

47:10it's it's like a group of us we'll go to see like a get a play once a month yep So we've done one so far. I went to see my friend Kelly's play. Do you rate them? No, we just go along. But one was, we went, so it was the first one was, it was me, Becky, you know, Henry Calvert? Yeah. And Lizzie was there. And weirdly, Tim Lovejoy was there as well. It was a strange group. Henry and Tim have now become friends, weirdly. Oh, right. Just move on. So that happened. And then Kelly was in the play and then she was chatting to us afterwards and was like, that sounds really good, the theatre club. Can I join?

47:44And we went, yeah. So she's now in the theatre club. So now we're going to go and pick up one actor or one person from each theatre club. Here's how we go. So the next one we're going to see is the comedian Rosie Holt. We're going to see her. She's got a play called Churchill's Urinal that she wrote. Would you ever go and see the Gareth Southgate one? I've seen it. It's brilliant. Yeah, you have actually. Yeah. Have you seen it? No, I got an email inviting me to go see it. Oh, go. I was out of the country. It's so good. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really... I don't know what it is about me, but when I go to the theatre or the cinema, I always, always desperately want to fall asleep.

48:22Yeah. I mean, there's good and bad stuff. You might just be getting to the wrong theatre. No, no, I've seen stuff I've been loving, but I'm warm and cosy, and I just want to sleep, and there's music. You might be tired. Yeah, when we get on a matinees, it's the afternoon. Yeah, that's a good point. Good point. Best one I've ever seen, Squall of Rock. That was good. I loved that. I almost fell asleep. That's simple, aren't you? I'm happy. Yeah, I've seen Curious Case of the Dog in the Nighttime. Yeah. What's that? It's a play, isn't it? Curious Case of the Dog in the Nighttime. Yeah, it is good.

48:51Did you sleep? Yeah, I missed the ending, but I thought it was brilliant. It's weird that you brought that up as your number one, Stevie, because genuinely we haven't conferred on these, and my number one is, used to think Norwich was shit, and that I wanted to move to London. Now I really do not enjoy London at all, and think that Norwich is one of, if not the greatest city in the UK. I agree with that. And I've leaned to every city in England. You actually have, yeah. But we went to Newcastle last week, didn't we? Do you not think that walking around these cool sort of like uni cities like Newcastle, Bristol, Brighton, Norwich, I don't know, it feels more of a community than London?

49:28Yeah, obviously I adore Bristol, so that's a good example for it. But I've had this conversation with Robbie before because he does his good versus, not your good versus, you do your, is it good or rubbish? Yep. Series. The weather makes such a difference. We've been to Newcastle twice on tour. Yeah. And then this is the third time I've been to Newcastle. The weather we got was the weirdest weather I think I've ever experienced. Yeah. It would one hour piss down, hail. Next hour, fine. Then it would go like that all day. But it would be really sunny. This was last Tuesday. Yeah, because I had a day like that in Bulgaria.

50:01Right. And it was similar, yeah. It was so strange. It was like hail that hurt. like there were thick hailstones. Yeah, it was Tuesday actually, this happened a little bit. Yeah, painful and then suddenly sunny and bright and like you could see such a difference. You'd be in the same area looking at the same buildings and the sun comes out and you're like, that is gorgeous. But as soon as that hail's hitting, you're going, oh, I don't want to be there. Yeah, so it does affect the mood, Matt. Have you ever been to Aberdeen? Aberdeen's got all these like granite buildings and in the sun it sparkles and it looks like this stunning city and then as soon as it gets cloudy, it's like, oh, I want to get out.

50:33I think that's maybe one of the problems with London is it's quite a grey city anyway. Yeah. So if you don't catch it in the right weather, you are going to think more negatively of it. Is it grey? No, it can be. Big grey skyscrapers all in the centre, isn't it? It can be, yeah. There's not a lot of greenery. Canary Wharf. There's quite a lot of greenery. Only if you go to the right areas. There's enormous parks. Yeah. More than most cities in the world. The parks are incredible. Yeah, but if you're coming into London, you're very rarely just going, I'm just going to go to Hyde Park or Victoria.

51:02Well, you're not just going to... Weather and seasons make a massive difference, I think. If you go to, like, I don't know, if you go to, like, Westminster and, like, you've got Big Ben and the bridge and that, like, if you go and it's pissing down with rain, yeah, it looks grey and... If you go and it's, like, snowing or whatever and it's Christmas time and Oxford Street's got the lights up, there is a magic to that. Yeah, great Yarmouth can be nice in the sun. Can it? Too far, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I will stop you there. I'm quite like Yarmouth. It is a shithole, though, isn't it? I go to Yarmouth on Wednesday.

51:31Are you? you went last week didn't you yeah I went yama for my own so I think in the right weather I go with Ellis' fiance is Ellis there always something it's a video that's an excuse it's my job you can pick anyone and they're always young women take Ellis I was with Matt Richardson the other way that's only so you can get to his wife what now she's in her 30s playing the long game. Have you asked Ellis? Do you know what? I genuinely feel bad about asking Ellis to do stuff because he's so busy all the time. Right. And he's like... So you went, don't worry. Your man's out of the country. You come with me.

52:16Yeah. He's out of the country. Now, we're going to see it. We're going to the UK's best cider pub. In Yarmouth? Yeah. Right. One of the four, one of the finalists, the last four of the best pubs in the country is in Yarmouth. I've been there before by chance. Is it on the seafront? No. Okay. Obviously not. End of my questions. So the thing you've changed your mind about is that Norwich is actually class. Norwich is, I think, the best at any given. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah. Robbie, what have you changed your mind on, mate? Great question. Not to tell you why Norwich thought that consistently from...

52:46Yeah, you have, to be fair. What were your first opinions when sort of like Churchill took over and that? What were you thinking? I was quite old. I can't remember.

52:57Okay. I have changed my opinion on American sports and how they're run I used to think all these like when they're like their drafts and the way they try and it's all like they try to make it all really fair and all that and I used to think I was just such bollocks do you know what I mean like that but as my enjoyment of football has decreased yeah and all that I have sort of looked to think do you know what everything they are doing is to make it better for the fans okay whereas watching football feels a bit like I'm in some abusive relationship where they're trying to make me unhappy. Whereas like with baseball, obviously I watch quite a lot.

53:38That's, it's all so focused. Everything they do in it is just a focus on the fans sort of thing. And I think I've changed that opinion where before I used to look at it and just think, this is sort of just commercial. Bit too clean? Yeah. But like, just like overly like pure businessy sort of thing. whereas now I'd sort of say yes obviously they are there as a business yeah but I think football is more that way than I was when I went to the end to watch the NFL a few years ago in Dallas I was struck by the whole tailgating stuff yeah the cookouts that they have before the game in the sense of community that the fans have you had we were there as Dallas Cowboy fans in quotations but it was a massive playoff game against the Packers and we were just walking past like the Packers fans, the cheeseheads they call them, and they were like, do you want a hot dog?

54:29And they could see us in our jerseys and still just inviting us over to their car to eat. I think football fans would hate that though, like English football fans. Yes, but one thing about English football fans is that they're cunts. Yeah. A lot of English football fans would love that. They wouldn't be willing to admit it on the day. Because like most English football fans, like Chelsea fans, will be at the pub with their mate who's a Spurs fan. Oh, yeah. They don't care. All week, but then the second the game's on, they suddenly think all Spurs fans are nob. So it's such a strange kind of...

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56:14Then what are you doing? Going your own end sort of thing? but if there's just like like if I'm at a football game right and I see someone and I'm like oh I know that person they support whatever team I don't care do you know what I mean why do people care that much yeah and I think America does that really well yeah and it's yeah and it's like at Toronto they have like loony dog nights where like a loony a loony a loony's a loony's what they call um one dollar one Canadian dollar so that's what like 50p yeah and they'll have hot dogs for 50p wow imagine how much they are in trans yeah yeah they would have been good if you remember yeah um but then they will try and beat the record for how many to do and they broke it early this season they've got over like 90 000 hot dogs that's over like that's about two per person that's pretty good sold that in one night yeah loony dogs yeah wow and also they're going to be bottom tier sausages but they're the best oh yeah and you can buy you can buy like an 11 dog 11 hot dog at the same place yeah i'll have five loony dogs please that's good and you get that and also like the little giveaways they'll have for the first 50 000 people get a bobblehead and they're like ernie clement is a popular player with the team yeah and they're like ernie clement hockey jerseys and stuff like that they were giving away recently that's cool it's just brilliant it seems like it's a lot more for the fans yeah whereas ultimately your football team doesn't care about you they try and squeeze every penny they can out of you the fact that the new england football shirts coming up to the world cup are 120 quid fuck you that is insane fuck you no wonder people are going on dh gate and buying them yeah i mean you will they were the toronto ones are probably the same a lot of that's expensive as well sort of thing i just went to japan i watched fc tokyo and i got the jet of the official jersey from the club shop for like 30 quid right like so it's not always like no like yeah when i got um my uh kaiser chiefs Jersey, that was a similar surprise.

58:09Yeah. They say over here, don't they, that football is a game created by the poor but stolen by the rich. And it very much does feel like that. I remember when we had an interview with Ian, I think we might have said this on here before, we had Ian Holloway on Soccer Air. We did an interview. It was this thing called Things I Know About Football. And it was like statements. And it could be like, I know David Beckham's the best running field in the world. It could be whatever you want it to be. And he said this story, I'll never forget. He said, I know football's the most amazing thing in the world.

58:36It can bring people together. It's the most wonderful thing. And I'm so happy that it's been part of my life. He goes, but the people, it's just run by the worst people in the world. Yeah. And it's, and it is. It really is. So, so yeah. So my opinion on American sports has changed for the better. I think that's a good one. I agree. Some of the chants bit cringe, isn't they? Oh yeah. Oh, the atmosphere is better. Yeah. Yeah. The atmosphere is generally, there's more creativity from certainly American soccer fans English football fans have incredible chance. You have some shit ones like the Chelsea one to go like bum with a lump of celery or whatever Is that just American crowds in general though?

59:19Because like obviously I saw like all the Coachella stuff a couple of months ago. Any video I saw of that, I saw it and thought that is the last place I'd ever want to be It's a different vibe isn't it? It's a great atmosphere at Toronto Blue Jays is really good fun, but it's different. It's not the same. I guess you could argue, like, I've also seen, I've seen at, like, Reading and Leeds Festival where they're all fucking throwing bottles of piss over each other. Also gross. That's the other end of gross. There's good and bad in everything, isn't there? But, like, an English festival is just one of the best places to be.

59:52Yeah, yeah. Ignoring the people slitting open tents and stuff. But that's just a certain type of bellend. Other European festivals are great as well. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. But I think whenever I've seen videos of, like, Coachella, I just think that looks fucking good. Yeah, well, I went, didn't I? No one wants to be there other than Instagram people. You went to Coachella. I've been to Coachella, yeah. How was it? It was a festival. It was an influencer thing. And it felt like everyone was there just to take photos and to say they went. Right, okay. So when I went, and I don't think I'm misremembering this, but when I went, obviously you're not allowed to take your own alcohol in.

1:00:28Some festivals over here you are and some you're not. but you weren't allowed to drink your alcohol watching the axe so there was a pen at the back like a smoking area literally so we would go all the way back there and obviously being british we wanted to get pissed so we would just sit in this pen for like three hours feed don't even drink just sit there watching you get more and more habit and then and then we we would walk into the arena and just walk about and then just be sober within 45 minutes but i i think i remember But I was watching, I've told this on the pod years ago, but we was watching Eminem, right, in California, and he brought out Snoop Dogg and Dr.

1:01:06Dre and that. So it was unbelievable. And there was a group of, I think they're Americans, it could have been Canadian, but I'm assuming they're American. It went, California love. And they just went, no.

1:01:22What were they expecting? I don't know, I was like, this is one of the best. I haven't brought back T-Pack. shit yeah on the subject of those drinking areas I remember when Kitty was really young and you try and do loads of stuff at first before you just give up and so we took her to some like it was like a kids festival I don't mean music I mean there was like kids entertainers there was like Mr Tumble live on stage and we got there like 10 in the morning and there was like one little enclosure at the back like a bar at 10 in the morning and there were guys just sitting there drinking beers with their kids just sat on the floor like in this bar bit and I'm thinking why did you come mate?

1:02:06Imagine that all the other kids were out there having fun doing all this stuff and you'd have to sit on the floor in the bar I mean I don't know kids at the pub a bit but I'm not going to go to see like a kids festival and just get hammered in a tent in my home I mean that is bad I don't know I get what you're going for I don't know it did not look class Stevie should we have another one? I've got one that I kind of spoke about recently on the podcast. Okay, just rattle it off then. Just do another one then. But no, no, but like, but I want to go into more depth on it because it's something I 100 % changed my mind on.

1:02:40Yeah. I've written it down as fart humour is funny. Oh, I like your stance on this. So years ago, there was a friend of mine who would laugh at the, what I found at the time as the shittest form of comedy, not remotely, like you'd go and watch a film that's just slapstick, absolute crap but and i'd watch it thinking like and i'd describe my friend as oh he just likes fart he's an idiot is this chicken hit that you're talking yeah and i'd always think that but like as i've not been the live show that sounds and i'd always kind of i guess at the time i must have thought i was above that right and as like obviously as a podcast we are we lean into that quite a lot and we we do that stupid humor far here no no but like i'm not that's what i said I describe it as that.

1:03:27But what I am saying is like, why can't we just laugh at stupidity? Why can't we just laugh at anything? Why did I feel like I was better than a certain type of funny? Why did I think, oh, that's not good. I like this intellectual chat. Yeah, well, it's the kind of comedians that you grew up like. Are you saying that you're like too intellectual? You're on this fucking podcast? No, this is what I'm saying. This is something I changed my mind on, Robbie. Like the last few years of this. well this is like in like sick form up to like uni kind of times where i was like i'd love like i'd love bo burnham and stuff because i was like oh he's like he does the stupid humor but a lot of the time he does stuff that's a little bit down but did you still feel this when you started doing happy hour well maybe at the start but as we lent into you were going you were like what the fish is fucking awful i think at the start happy hour wasn't as silly as it is now but i love that that's what i mean i've grown up changed in that and i love leaning into the silly because i just don't care so much i think i wanted to be above it before but i never was i just wanted to be yeah so my my stance has changed in the sense that why can i not just enjoy and i don't care what if you want to laugh at farts cool yeah enjoy it you have fun i think that's a good point and i think i think we both grew up probably thinking that we were comedy snobs because we like oh we like bo burnham and stuff like that.

1:04:47Whereas like now, so like my favourite comedian is John Kearns, right? Yeah. So probably a comedian's comedian, right? Still probably a smart comedian, right? But I also really like watching clips of Harry Hill. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I was watching some of his podcasts the other day. He did a song about there being a fox in his studio and then there's a big person come out dressed as a fox and I was like, comedy is obviously a mass perspective and I find all of it quite funny. But even John Kearns, he will do these quite smart jokes whilst wearing the most ridiculous teeth and stuff. Before, I would have probably looked down on stuff and just, but why did I think I was?

1:05:26I've never been above that. So now my thing is just cool. I like it. I laugh at stupid shit. When we do this, we've had phrases on here that people have like, they come in a wank and all shit like this, right? And it is a little bit silly. And I used to actually think, I'd watch the clips back and go, fucking hell what are we doing oh it's stupid however right last one laughing hosted by Jimmy Carr right one of the biggest comedy shows out at the moment right on prime some of the top comedy minds in the country you know when they get their wild card their joker and they have to go up and do a performance in front of the other comedians yeah some of them are literally up there like who's the Diane Morgan brilliant she's just doing farts yeah and the comedians are loving it and I thought maybe we're not so I don't know that's what I'm saying I've changed my mind we're the problem there and when I see comments going oh that's so immature it's like yeah yeah just enjoy like don't turn your nose up at this shit just let yourself enjoy shit yeah I was stopping myself from enjoying stuff because I thought I was better than it I'm not I'm so in there you're drinking super heaps yeah I'm smashed at 3pm on a Monday just drinking just so good I'm going to have to get a water that's a good one stevie that's a good one and and and i'm probably gonna go uh a little bit more serious here with this one but growing up i i similar to yours actually i used to think i was really above it right now i realize i'm not above it religion right okay so i i love that you thought you were above religion a little bit above one level up from god well in my head and still now Now, my stance is that I don't believe in any God or any religion.

1:07:09Yeah, which is fine. But I used to sort of like look down on people that were religious as if they're idiots, right? Yeah. And I still cannot comprehend how somebody can believe in a deity. That there's no proof of. Yeah, that there's no proof of. But what I can understand is why somebody would like to believe in it. Yeah. To give them the reassurance or that there's more to life than this. and I used to think that everybody that was religious must just be fucking stupid, right? And I think they're probably in the Venn diagram. There probably is a lot of stupid people that happen there. There's also a lot of stupid atheists.

1:07:51Yeah, of course, yeah. And like Fiona's dad's religious and he's also a very smart man. I so thought you were going to say he's also stupid. So I've kind of opened my eyes to it. I still have my beliefs, but I'm much more willing to hear someone tell me about theirs. Yeah. I think it's hard to really, you think faith is ridiculous, but then also I went to every Scotland home game for about 20 years and thought we were going to win. Yeah. Obviously you're going to qualify. Do you mean there's love? Yeah. Like these people, they go to church and they live by whoever their God is. And then I cried when Mark Noble retired.

1:08:30Do you know what I mean? who are you to judge yeah for like upton park was my church in a way yeah and and like unfrizzled bubbles was my hymn that's what it was like it'd be quite nice to believe in god like if you genuinely believed i think it'd be quite good like i'd like there to be a god i can get on board with yeah yeah i think faith is inherently a good thing like having faith in something that makes you believe in positive things can be a good thing religion obviously can lead down oh you've got your extremist in every in every sort of sort of um what am i trying to say like in every part of the world there's an extremist who ruins it for the rest of them but on the whole i think i guess religion can be a good thing most religious people are peaceful people yeah yeah my nan i was having a discussion with my nan maybe six months ago she's she's religious she's not religious but she believes in god she doesn't go to church she doesn't what do it well but she told me that she prays right and that was a shock to me and she said to me and we had a bit of a heated debate about it but she said to me that if ever i was like terminally ill like if when this cyst starts growing behind my ear right she said that um i'm gonna be what if if the shit hits the fan i will pray she said you will pray and i am i'm 99.9 % sure that I'm not because why would I if I genuinely don't believe that anyone would be there to listen to it but would the argument be it's like the candy man thing it's exactly what I was going to say, it's the opposite of that where you're saying there's 0.0001 % chance bloody Mary's going to kill me if I do this thing still not going to do it so if you're about to die, that 0.0001 % in your head might go, this is my only chance I may as well just ask you I need to repent sorry God, I've been slanging you off for years but can you make sure my sister's benign do you not do that sort of thing when you were younger though where you sort of make little deals in your head you sort of think like god I'm not really certain you're real but if you let if you let John Barnes score this penalty then I might go to church once if there is yeah well when my OCD was at its worst I used to literally have a mental prayer that I knew word for word that I would recite every single night I used to go in and kiss the photo of my grandad 13 times now who am I doing that for do you know what I mean obviously there's a mental health issue but I used to go like I used to go dear god blah blah blah blah blah and this was at the time when I was like I'm fucking militant atheist where I'd be online going blah blah blah and then I'd be at home on my own yeah shutting my eyes saying that so it is weird but and again not an original thought but just a regurgitation of um like Bo Burnham but because I don't believe in an afterlife I I feel like i am really i really appreciate how lucky i am to be alive now yeah does that make sense instead of just going well we'll play it safe and we'll see what happens in the next life in paradise this is the paradise that we're in now fuck me sat in here with this guy drinking super huge while he makes us ill this is paradise you're welcome well this is the closest version of it this is this is the closest we're ever gonna get i think a lot of that kind of boils down to just realising it doesn't matter.

1:11:52Like where before you were going, why the fuck are you religious? Like where you're going almost annoyed that people can feel this way or think this way because you don't get it. It gets to a point where you just go, why do I care what that person thinks? Your tongue's gone blue. Really blue. I'm agreeing with what you're saying. I'm listening, but I wasn't thinking, this guy's drinking 8 % beer. 8 % drinks. Talking about religion. And he's just getting really free. I love it. He's halfway through those three counts. So are you getting caught with some of a hammered alcoholic bloke in a pub who talks to you for a bit?

1:12:23That's exactly what I was thinking earlier. I said I'm going to lean into it. But I do just think, like, why have we... That fucking bloke I met the other day. But why do we care, like, about, like... I don't know. There's so many things where, like, I see, like, hate and stuff online, where when I see stuff, I just go, why are you so against this? Like, it cannot affect your life that much that you're this angry. I hate the people that try and... It works both sides of the coin, but I hate the people who do these viral clips where they go up to vegetarians and they eat meat. I was like, oh, what?

1:12:57Who do you? Why is that bothered? And the other way around, when vegetarians, they actually have more of a reason, to be fair, because their viewpoint is, why are we killing millions of animals? I was talking to Ishan Akbar, a comedian the other day, who's Muslim, and he said, I was chatting to him about faith or something like that, and I said to him, do you know my favourite bit of Islamophobia? And he went, weird stuff. I was like, What I was saying was, I like when they're like, oh, I've got bacon sandwich here. Like it's like, it's like kryptonite. And they go, yeah, okay mate, cool. I'm not going to eat it.

1:13:31Cheers. It's so weird. They did that at that Tommy Robinson thing the other day, didn't they? There was like a guy playing up on stage, like playing an instrument and he had bacon wrapped around him. Like there's got an old Muslim section, I want to watch this. No, they're not going to want to be there because they're all guns.

1:13:48Sorry on that, FU. Yeah, I think Stevie should have to drink two or three Super Hoots every ep. It's so good. Start the ep sober. Yeah. I can't for the next one. No, that's going to be good, yeah. I'm going to order you three more on delivery. I might just run down the shop and get us during the ep. If you run out, mate, let me know. I'll do a run for you. Before we finish on yours, Robbie, I just want to give you... So I think chocolate Aero's are way better than mint arrows now. Fair enough. Pure chocolate. Yeah. And I genuinely believe that's a good litmus test for are you mature now? I think kids like the mint ones.

1:14:22I like the orange one. Orange arrow? Yeah. The new release? Old dog that one. Six years ago, mate. It used to be when I was a kid. Really? Orange arrow? Oh, it did, didn't it? Yes, it did. Were you there when he was a kid? Well, now they do honeycomb, praline, all these mad ones. Do they? Yeah. but I think when you're a kid you go mint or you go orange when you get older you like the pure chocolate Isaac loves a mint aero yeah big fan when he's 19, 20, 23 he will 21 or 22 back to mint yeah yeah very sure he'll go back to mint yeah 24 and another real quick one that we don't really need to discuss is I think skinny jeans are crap right and that is the most I've ever changed my mind on anything I wrote that in mine did you but I don't know if it's because I'm really top heavy and I look back at some photos of myself and skinny jeans and I was thinking fucking hell I'm an upside down pyramid.

1:15:13Yeah. Like it's such a weird look. I'm so lanky that when I wear skinny jeans I look like I'm being drawn by like Tim Burton. Yeah. I have quite strong muscular thighs. Right. So it's really hard the skinny jeans thing to find trousers that fit. You have to find one and then just buy those trousers all the time. I will say the opposite though. I can't do wide leg jeans either. No. Because I find that that's too much for me. I'm just a straight leg now. Right. You're a straight leg. I'm a straight leg. See I like a wide leg. I used to I vividly remember thinking when I was like 19, 20, I used to think my feet were too big.

1:15:46So I used to be insecure about my feet. No, they are. Yeah, thank you. Okay, I've gone back there. Or just like that. Maybe she forgot about the cyst.

1:15:56I used to wear skinny jeans so tight, I used to buy them from the women's section in Primark. And I used to buy three pound Primark plimsolls because they sort of hug your foot a little bit and made it look neck big. As tight as possible, yeah. And I used to remember actually thinking, I will never not wear these. I was going, it will be skinny jeans and Primark plimsolls for life. And then I got to about 24 and things started to change. Yeah. So skinny jeans, get in the bin. They'll probably come back in fashion. And I'll be there on the front line, putting it back on. Right now. Trying to. Right now, enjoy the time when we don't have to wear them.

1:16:32Yeah. But freeing on the old package as well, isn't it? Not having to wear them. Not having to wear them. Yeah, when you're wearing them. everything's being right sucked in there, isn't it? Not in a good way. Actually, that's something that I've changed my mind on. What? On the subject. I'm expecting you to say like you're wearing speedos or Y-fronts now. I'm expecting you to say... Yeah, pretty much. Briefs. Oh! Like, I used to like... When I was a kid, you know, you have like Y-front type things like that. Then you go like, I'll get your boxer shorts. That's cool like that. Do you know what?

1:17:01There's a lot of comfort in the briefs. I think, yeah, that's quite nice. Really? It keeps everything packed. I thought it was going to be tight on the old V-line. You know? I'm a trunks man. Yeah, I used to use trunks, long-term trunks. What, baggy trunks? No, no. You know, because boxers are still quite close, aren't they? So I like boxers, but with a slightly longer leg, so it doesn't ride. I think it makes my thighs rash when I wear them. I don't have that issue, so I don't know what to tell you there. See a doctor, don't ask chat. No, but that's something I've gone, like these days I say, I'll actively look out.

1:17:36If I'm going to be running particularly, I'll be like, I want a brief rather than a trunk. We both need to try briefs and see if we can agree. Maybe I'll buy you a brief each and you can try it. What size are you? Christmas app. We'll put some briefs on. What size are you? Large? That was what we got as a gift for tour, wasn't it? I'm fucking small, mate. I'll see if they got a large but small penis. Extra large one on the back and smaller one on the front. I like it. Have you got one more, Robert, you want to finish? The TV show BoJack Horseman. I don't think I've seen it properly. So I watched the first episode of Sade, I thought, I'm into this.

1:18:15And then a couple of people said, it's really good. That feels like fart humor to me. My God, no, it's so intelligent. It's all drugs and shit, isn't it? Nah. Nah, that's Rick and Morty. Nah, it's all like depression and fame and stuff like that. It's quite dark. It's absolutely brilliant. Animated, isn't it? Animated. he's a horse imagine it wasn't a real horse every time it's a documentary it was at Will Arnett yeah I think so yeah but it's absolutely brilliant I mean it's finished now I mean you can still watch it obviously but it's not loads of series is it five or six series I think but just start at the beginning watch it through and it's one of the best shows I've ever seen is it really?

1:18:55really good and I think a lot of people like I know Bev would never watch it I've tried to get her to watch it because she'll discount it because it's a cartoon let's bring back Film Club so in touch but The Simpsons in my opinion is one of the best things ever made. Yeah, but have you heard a recent episode of The Simpsons, Homer's voice? Oh, mate, Marge's voice. Have you not heard them? Oh, it's so bad. It sounds like granddad. Yeah. Didn't need me to come back in for Marge. But honestly, Marge sounds about 94. Why? Have they changed the actors? No, but they're old. Just because they're so old.

1:19:21Change the actors then. Marge sounds like Patty and Selma now. Oh, no. Homer sounds like his dad. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Abe. Yeah. I think for this then, we bring back Film Club, but Series Club, we both have to watch all of BoJack so they'll hear our opinion on it in about eight months. The problem with that is I have made a deal with myself and no one else knows this, right? Not even Fiona. But by the time the year's out, right? I am watching from start to finish Sopranos. Okay. The Wire. Good. And Succession. Brilliant. What a year you've got. My God, you've got a good year. I've never seen any of them.

1:19:56I watched Succession because of Robbie. Right. Loved it. Did you? So good. Have you seen Sopranos? No, I haven't. And I haven't seen The Wire either. Shall we watch Sopranos at the same time? Yes. Yeah, you've seen it. I've seen all three of them. Rate them. Sopranos bottom of the three, but still brilliant. I've heard people say it changed their lives, the Sopranos. Apparently the first season is quite slow, isn't it? It's amazing. It's really good. But I mean, we're talking about probably my three favourite TV shows ever. And then... In at two. I think maybe two is the... Maybe The Wire or...

1:20:29Here's my issue if you say The Wire. I've seen Succession so you're asking me to go and watch two series worse than Succession yeah well it could go either way I'd say for me personally I prefer those two I'll go The Wire first no no have you started Eva yet? I have seen the first episode of The Sopranos four times because every six months I'm going to watch it and then I have to start it again okay let's do Sopranos alright alright deal so how many so do we have like a certain amount of episodes we have to watch a week do you know how many there are how long it is I think roughly At the top of my head There's something like 80 episodes All in Oh it's not too bad We can get through that Two or three a week By the end of the year Well you want to watch All three by the end of the year If I'm watching it with you now I won't like I'll just do it To match you Yeah I'll message you And be like I've just finished this Okay cool We're going to give you Full reviews on that Robbie Okay so Not Bojack and Horseman That's what I was talking about But cool Hey either way Okay well you tell us Where would Bojack Horseman Fit in that list Below those Well there we go there Either way, you've got a great TV ahead of you.

1:21:32There we go. Lovely. There we go. This has been Things We Changed Our Mind On, Robbie Knox, Stevie White and me, Jack Mate. This has been Jack Mate's Happy Hour Podcast and we'll see you in a bit. I've almost finished my second can. You've got to carry on drinking that on the next record. It's gone. All right. Ledge. This is brilliant. Yeah, I love that. I don't feel great.

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