673 - More Things We’ve Changed Our Minds On…

27:45Right. Oh, nice. Yeah. Was that Mac Bean? I went to... Was that Mac Bean? Sounds like something Mac Bean would do. No. I have a friend who used to have those really hot curries. When we're now in our 40s, he had a curry with him very recently. So he used to always have the really hot one. he goes oh no i want to have i want to enjoy it now like why were you doing then he goes just because it was like everyone did so so maybe there is a bit of that but i've always felt like like nando's for instance i'll go i i can i can eat the medium one i wouldn't go hot at a medium but like i'll still pick lemon and herb because i prefer the flavor of it but you pick lemon and herb yeah i just like the or i'll go the barbecue one but like i'll there were for years i just avoid it at all costs and i think i started having jalapenos on things i remember when you got into and that eased me into it and now like if jalapenos are an option i'll add them to like nachos or subway or whatever i'll always have jalapenos what do you like the hot kick i like the little like i've got a bit about me yeah and your tolerance as well and jalapenos obviously a very weak tolerance but i can go a bit spicier now and i do enjoy it occasionally i will pick a slightly spicier option i'm the same i'm the same i think i actually do get a little kick out of it as well because they say that spicy foods um gives you the same hit in the part of the brain that opioids give you so it'll give you it does give you a bit of a high jalapeno is my drug well literally yeah literally um that's why like you if you eat super spicy things and a lot of it you can hallucinate oh i did not know that yeah so so i i i do think i get a little kick from it I have a lot of intrigue for spicy stuff as well.

29:26Whenever a new place releases something that's meant to be spicy, there's always a bit of me thinking, how spicy could it be? Yeah. If it's something like McDonald's or KFC, something that... The spicy nugs are spicy, though. So I'll be like, oh, it's only them. They're not going to have the mads. Or KFC do Zinger stuff, don't they? And I'm like, I'll just give something like that a go. And I always... I never regret giving it a go. No. There have been times where I've tried stuff and I've gone, why am I eating this? I had the spiciest thing I've ever had in my life, right? A couple of weeks ago, I ordered a burrito and it said, what sauce do you want?

30:00And it was like sweet, mild, whatever. And I put very hot because I was like, right, I'll just have a hot one. And by word, it was the worst thing I've ever eaten. I was starving. So I was like, who am I trying to eat it? The next day I went to a casino in Yarmouth and the world fell out of my ass. the pain and I was going I was in the toilet going at the casino that's embarrassing not at the roulette table I was in the toilet no I know but it's just funny that you can't just have that moment at home oh and it was so painful in my head you're in a tux what

30:41yeah do you like spicy food Robbie? I do like spicy food I'm obsessed with that this spicy sauce of the rib man you're called holy fuck oh yeah you got me some of that it's so good but then one yeah i got the spicier one but you can build you can work your way up to do it the first one i was like i can't have that too hot but you can build your way up to i think i'd need to do that because when i say i like spicy food now i'm still very much on the weak spicy side if i actually had something with some real spice in it i would still cry genuine tears down i reckon so look i remember we did a fifa challenge years and years ago and we had to have like those ghost peppers or scotch whatever they were and i was in agony i reckon they would still be horrific for Do you remember the barbecue I had last summer that you come around?

31:23That stuff, hated. Was that called The Bomb? Was that called The Bomb? The Bomb, yeah. Have you ever had The Bomb, Robbie? Unbearable. Yeah. And then he had loads. He had quite a bit on a chip. And then he was in big pain, like snot, eyes streaming. And then at the end of the night, I bottled it and I didn't have any. And then everyone kept bringing it up. You bottled it, you bottled it. Because I was pissed. I went, what? Does it make me cool if I have it? will I and then I put loads on this shit fucking loads and ate it I was outside in my pants no not in my pants don't know why I said that naked I was eating ice cute Fee you can put the video on to prove but yeah eating ice cute it was bad it was bad so we like spicy food now but there is still a limit there's a limit I remember you know Neil Smythe he's one with the sky and he was at hashtag I remember me up for dinner with him in Farringdon and we went to this pizza place it said in the menu had like it said like the uk's hottest pizza and he ordered that and he had like one bite of it went that's too hot i mean it was it was gonna be mate it's the hottest pizza what do you what do you think what do you think was gonna happen i love pizza yep i haven't changed my mind on that no just a solid opinion yeah here's one from me i think is a bit offensive so apologies but you can't help it if you've got an opinion okay i as a kid was fascinated by america right and i thought it was forward thinking i thought it was land of the free and i thought it was somewhere where hopefully one day i'll move to that was a pipe dream at the back of my head now i think it is a land full of cringy outdated weird ruled people do you know what i mean by that yeah i think america not all americans but i think so you know how in britain we self-deprecate yeah i think america needs more of that because i think they're they're like they're they're raised to think that their country is the greatest and it is the most backwards fucking place ever you go there's like what 12 shootings a in America or some shit like that.

33:36It's mad. And I just hate that they have this... I'm not saying England's perfect. It is not perfect at all. But we know it's not perfect where these Americans have this inflated self. So it's not America necessarily that you've changed your mind on. It's the American people. A lot of American people. They're raised in this kind of mindset that like, whoa, big yourself up. Americans are the best. Americanism can be a bit rank. they tried to bring it into boots when i worked at the opticians did they and they brought in like this the you should try and um speak to patients and customers the same way americans do and they brought in this whole like um they trained us to be able to do it like that and we were all just like this is the shittest thing ever and english people do not want to be treated like that it's so uncomfortable and so fake yeah but i don't think it is fake when americans are doing it no i think it is though i think it is what for tips or massively because they rely on tips right and you go into these like massive multi-billion pound wimpy or whatever or IHOP and it'll be like tip your server why are you telling me to tip the server pay your staff I always see that on Twitter I find it weird that they defend that like Americans will be like just give them tips it's like yeah but we're not against we'll tip in England that's not the problem the problem is the fact that you expect it just because you're choosing not to pay them exactly exactly and I don't know I can't I don't even have the energy for it because I've said it so many times, but I think I'm fucking...

35:06Donald Trump's your fucking gaffer. Do you know what I mean? It's a bit embarrassing, lads. It's a bit embarrassing. I'm glad this is going out after we go. Yeah, I'm sorry, guys. Yeah, I have had some of the best times of my life in America. And I think generally, most American people, when you meet them, are absolutely lovely and so nice. I agree. So I actually think American people are some of the best people. Agreed. I think the country has a lot of issues with inequality. Quite a few nutters. Yeah. A lot of the gun things, obviously mental. And sorry to interrupt, but I know that obviously people with drug problems have probably been through a lot.

35:52Like maybe victims of abuse growing up and that's how they medicate and stuff. But it doesn't seem like America does a lot to help. You see these videos online of all these people that are addicted to, like, fentanyl and stuff. And they're, like, slumped over on the street. It's like a third world. It's madness. Yeah, you do. When I was in New York last, I hadn't been for about 10 years, and it does seem to have changed a lot. Like, it does seem to have got a lot worse. There's just not the care for these people who are in a bad state. And I think healthcare in general is obviously a bit of an idea.

36:23Exactly. That's another great point. Yeah, and that's something that we do so good over here with the NHS and stuff. yeah so yeah i i i probably tarnished them all with the same brush there there are my nan's american like that i've got yeah but well she's she's english but she's lived in america for like four years she sounds american but um so yeah i think there are i agree there are a lot of great people there but there is also a high ratio of fucking nutters there as well there's a lot of yeah but i think when you meet even the people who are a lot of people who are nutters they're nice I mean people who are sort of quite have quite extreme views if you never get under the discussion of politics they're mostly pretty lovely I've been in the south deep south America and everyone was so lovely but I imagine if I started asking them if I went down and asked about Donald Trump we'd probably have different views but I think generally it's such a friendly place which is why I find it a bit heartbreaking what's going on at the minute it does make me not want to go and I know a lot of other people the same thing's going on i can't we don't need to get into a debate about this but i can't wrap my head i think wrap my head around the gun stuff as well yeah i can't wrap my head around it anyone that's pro guns i just i just you you most arguments most um arguments have two sides and i could even if i disagree with a side of the argument i can kind of see where they're coming from yeah in a way but with the gun argument i just none of their arguments that add up to me just doesn't make sense yeah it's it's yeah it's baffling yeah right robbie what you got um follow that um because we're all cancelled now i can't believe um that doves are pigeons

38:08i i used to care more about ambition and professional stuff and all this like i used I think it was important to do good, not necessarily make money, but to be successful at work or something, or do well in my career and all that sort of stuff. And then the second I had kids, just went. What, like a tap? Turning off a tap? Straight away, it was like, oh, it doesn't matter. I don't care. I still want to do interesting things, but I think I don't... It's hard to explain. I just don't really care. I don't care if I make a good TV show or something. I don't really care. I don't see a value in people going, oh, Robbie's done really well there now.

38:57Right, right. You don't need that external validation. Yeah, I think so. And it's nice when people go, that's good. I don't mind. That's still nice, but it doesn't... It suddenly really quickly just stopped being the focus of what I was doing because there's something like, oh, this is more important. This is what it's about. I do find, like I've been in a couple of sort of business-y sort of podcast things in the past people have talked about, and they'll always talk about success, and they always frame success as money, professional, or money or something like that. And, which I don't think it's the idea of the game.

39:26I'm not trying to be like a hippie. Yeah, I know you do. I just don't, I think a lot of the time, obviously, I'm not saying money's not important, you do need money or your life's really shit if you don't have any money. But there's not, I don't think, a massive, like when I see Donald Trump now or Elon Musk or these people and they're just trying to get more and more of this money like why what yeah I wouldn't swap places with them for anything they'll just look at them and thank god your life's looking miserable I think it's good and so fortunate that we probably all have like enough money where we don't need to like stress and that's that's absolutely I'm not saying that money's not important there is like people would always say money won't solve your problems well for the vast majority of my life money will have solved every single problem I had yeah all of them yeah i always think money equates to like freedom as well yeah you you can you can go and do things you want to you want to do um but i've found that like once you get like a certain amount that's like genuinely not even that much just enough to where you can wake up and be comfortable um the rest doesn't really matter like it doesn't really matter yeah i mean you've got enough to just be free and then and then that's it so i get what you mean in terms of like elon musk he's got what billions and billions and he's still going out and trying to add to that when it's like and like fucking be all over to try and yeah if this random random number can i ask if you're not driven by motivation or anything like that what what makes you want to make better youtube content i enjoy doing it but i also don't like and but i've got no interest in being a huge YouTuber or anything.

41:06And to be honest, I'd actively not want to do that because at the minute, it's kind of nice. I go holiday a couple of times a year, get down with my kids. Don't really, I'm lucky enough to not have to worry when I go to the supermarket, oh God, how much is this going to cost? Yeah. Or anything like that. But I don't, but I'm just not, I don't really feel I need much more than that sort of thing. I just, it's... Would you want, 10 million subscribers if you could get them overnight. No. No? Because it changes what you can do. Like I was, when I was at Soccer AM, I was in a certain bit of society.

41:45I was a young man. I was quite famous because of that show. Sort of thing. And it's fine. Everyone's nice, but it does influence what you can do and where you can go to a degree. And I was up in, I think I mentioned this before, but I was up in Scotland with Martin Compson a couple of summers ago and he's line of duty he's BBC One primetime famous and it's completely different it's like you're in boots and people are going up to you sort of thing I knew if I went to a Kasabian gig a lot of people would come up to me when I was in soccer room and if I went to a young person's pub a lot of people would come up to me but most places I'd be fine you might get the odd person there and there but but they would be like you'd be looking for a pub to go get some dinner You'd have to look in the window and see what it's like and try the next one.

42:38Were people just coming up to him all the time? Yeah, just because he's really famous. And he loves talking to people. He's a lovely guy. But it would have too much of an impact on your life, I think. It's not something I particularly want. I'd like to have a number of subscribers, probably about now, maybe a few more. I don't really care the number of people watching the videos that I can live the life I've sort of got now really or like 100k every video would be nice that'd be fine about that before I remember talking to that time I had brunch with Alfie Days once and he said that's mental that is so weird yeah and he said I think I was with Tim Lovejoy as well and he said when were you happiest and he said about 250 ,000 subs he said he loved that because it was not too it wasn't too famous right Not too much or that sort of thing, but you're getting good money.

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44:18Event contract trading involves risk of loss. Predictions offer void in New York. Non-withdrawable rewards issued as$50. Click to claim every seven days for 21 days. Terms at dkng.co slash offer. Limited time offer. Nationwide based on sportsbook predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability. Varies by state. Yeah, so I think sort of around the level of... Now is a nice balance of it, but... That's reminded me I used to, as a kid, want to be famous. Like actively want to be desired. Yeah, I think I probably did as well. Yeah. And now I kind of am in a way. Yeah, yeah. I think I'm so thankful that level I'm at, because I think we're all very happy with where we are.

45:01You can live life normally, though. Yeah. I remember I was with Ed Sheeran once, and he was at the example gig. He was one of his best mates, and he had to come in a different door later on, sneak down the corridors just to be in the dressing room. And I thought to myself, fuck me. like if i walk in the front door of the uea i might have to say hello to five or six people yeah but that's it yeah and then i'm just enjoying the gig like everyone else yeah ed sheeran's having a yeah they wouldn't leave like they'll they might speak to you for a few minutes and then they'll leave you to it and they'll be like jack's over there yeah but then ed sheeran would no one would leave him alone yeah it's like when we did our the happy hour tours if you had to go if it was close to the showtime a lot of people around and you had to get something for the bus you'd have to go to John the Tour Manager and say, mate, would you mind getting my bag from the bus?

45:52Because if you went out there, it'd be hard. It's like that all the time for some people. Yeah. No matter where they go. We got our hub of our people in one place. So that's why that was the only time it's been like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I've like had thousands of encounters with people, right? In the street and in random places. And I reckon I've only ever had three bad encounters. Yeah. and they stick with you obviously they stick with you but the majority of people are nice aren't they yeah and it's nice it's a level where it's nice when someone comes to talk to you now I like it I think a couple of people yesterday sort of thing they're all really nice sort of thing and then but then if it was if you couldn't do things because of that it would become an issue yeah 100 % 100 % that's something you change your mind on then yeah fame yeah but I remember when I was younger as well I would people would say oh like fame fame doesn't make you happy i mean you think probably does though didn't it yeah i don't believe that it's got some fucking good perks let me tell you that yeah in it yeah so so it's lying to say yeah people who say money doesn't buy happiness yeah the problem i had at soccer aim as well was that i had the amongst that certain some such study i had the fame bit but i didn't have the money that allows you to bypass the problems of the fame like i still have to get the night bus to get home because i couldn't afford a taxi so i couldn't get any of the stuff that helps that helps that so it was like yeah yeah yeah that's a good one stevie what else you changed your mind on i have changed my mind on the idea of what old is yes i remember like there'll be people listening to this now like 18 to 20 year olds who will be thinking we're old because well comparatively we are right but like it just gets to a point where it's like when i was I remember we had conversations back in the day, like when we were like 18, 19, and we'd be going, oh, I won't still go in a nightclub when I'm 22.

47:50That's gross. Then we get 22, still in a club, I'm like, I'm not going to go there past 25. And it just keeps, and it just, as you get older, the idea of what is old just seems to get further and further away. Obviously we joke about Robbie being old all the time, but it's just, it's not that far away from us at all in my mind, even though it's 15 years. That doesn't, it seems so much closer than that 15 year gap when I was 18. and when tim lovejoy came down to the show he was going it's so funny that they think you're really old because that's so because that's so that's maybe laugh so much what yeah but it is funny like i'm like i know i don't even see my mum as old now whereas when i was a kid she was this like really old woman your mum would have been like 20 odd yeah but now she's like 30 years older than that i now don't see her as old yeah and i think every person listening where will be having those things thinking oh i don't want to like people panic because they're turning 25 or whatever and it's like nothing changes you just carry on doing the same shit you're already doing you're just slightly older you do change a bit though like you don't go to nightclubs that much anymore do you no but i wouldn't be against going to one i was in one last week or two weeks ago yeah like but whereas when i was younger the thought of doing that as someone in their 30s is gross yeah but oh why would i why would i carry on doing that when i'm like but now i'm just like I don't, it doesn't matter.

49:07Yeah. Like you can still live your life and do the things that you think you're not going to do just because you're a little bit older. I don't know. I think my opinion stayed the same in terms of I dread getting old though. Yeah. No, I don't want to be old. But now I see old, old as a whole other thing. I'll see like 70, 80 plus as actually old. Whereas when I was 18 and stuff, I would have looked at 40 year olds and thought, oh, the fuck they're so old. I do have in my head though, and I'm not trying to beef you out here, but I do have that my goalpost is like or my level is 40 I think when you're when you're over 40 you can still be classed as young so what but I don't think no one who's 42 someone will go you're young yeah but older people will and also I guarantee when you're saying that now that same goalpost you would have had 10 years ago is 30 no I don't think so I think 40 I reckon when you hit 40 you still won't feel old really yeah I just don't think you will because I think it's all comparative, isn't it?

50:06But you have nothing to compare it to when you're younger. And I guarantee people listening to this will be going, oh, no, that is old. But give them 10 years and they'll remember this and go, oh, yeah. I remember at uni, we started, we were 18, and there was a guy in the corridor above who was like a mature student. I think he must have been about 24 or something like that. But it was like someone's granddad was there. We were like fucking, it was like he just didn't have anything in common with this guy. It was like completely, it was mental that this guy was there. We're like, what's he doing?

50:32Why's he in now? What's he doing? Right. we're all like 18 going out for the first time sort of thing like that and that was weird but also I remember when I was like I first moved to London I was I think I was about 20 I was probably about 22 I would have been 22 yeah probably about 22 and there's I was working in a TV studio and there's some woman who came in or girl came in and worked at the same at the same time in production and she and I kissed her at a wrap party thing and she was 26 and it was like everyone's going like that was mental like that was the biggest age gap ever we go well well robbie well chill out you love a meal yeah it was like it was like so so bizarre like that yeah um but yeah but then but now yeah i i think i don't see 50s particularly i don't think i see 60s particularly olds yeah now yeah i think it's just it's the whole you're only as old as you feel thing but like if you genuinely didn't tell people your actual age as long as you can keep up doing the same things these people are doing no one would ever know like like ignoring like what people look like but like if if an 18 year old thinks you're really old because you can't handle a full night out with them but then if you went and had that full night out of them never said your age they wouldn't think anything of it they just think i'm just enjoying time with someone unless they saw you in bed for two days they don't need to know that they don't need the two days after that's what i mean like it is if you can keep up doing if you're playing football with 20 year olds still in two years time i'll be playing the vets league yeah mad but if you were still fit enough to play against 18 year odds and stuff you would wouldn't you yeah i saw an advert for a leisure center the other day over 50s walking football i was like are you in a tricky winger

52:18wow we have to do a robbie's 50th birthday special yeah we do but there's like a saga where i was i think he's still going there's that it was like holidays just for old people like that and that was like 55 yeah do you know a show the golden girls no i've heard of it but i don't know it was like a show in the 80s i'd say 90s and it was like some old ladies and they were like comedy old they were like i think they're all retired and they would all like um um it was like funny that they were like going on dates and stuff because they were old no they were like three years older than me or something like that now when they started started do you know like um I might mention this something before but One Foot in the Grave Victor Meldrew the comedy old guy the start of that series he was like three or four years older than me now when it first started when the actor was when he was playing it wow it's that thing that always gets shared like every now and then where they're saying like X Factor used to have an over 25 character yeah and you used to think oh they've done well at that stage of life yeah Jamie Archer yeah literally 26 years old yeah oh he's so old oh he's getting a few get a bit of success before he dies.

53:23Mental, isn't it? Yeah, I know it's now, it definitely changed when I'm starting to think, before I was like, oh, who the, like, what sort of pop stars do you fancy in that? And now I'm like, God, there are some great politicians out there in the parliament. Yeah. And it's mad, like, I see, like, everyone was going, oh, like, Jared Bowen didn't make the World Cup squad, and everyone was going, oh, that's a last chance for him at 29. And I'm going, fucking hell, I'm four years older than Jared Bowen. you idolize well i idolize these people yeah i'm going like i see deckham rice is like 10 years older than me yeah he's seven years younger have you seen the thing that's being shared a lot at the moment of like old transfers and everyone's going that's mental like beckham went to real when he was 28 yeah and everyone's going oh everyone assumed he's younger zidane went there when he was 29 yeah i'm like now people see those ages as you can't go to the big teams now you're 29 you're past it yeah like back then it was normal it's weird isn't it yeah it's weird my granddad always goes you're only as old as the woman you feel but my nan is two years older than him who's he feeling yeah good point very good point yeah right uh i'll do i'll do one more i'll do one more um i think uh that when i was a teenager and i didn't do it often but i did do it a few times um i used to think that weed was cool fair enough i used to think not cool but i used to think there was like the culture around it like the bongs and the symbolism and stuff like that was cool and now and i apologize listeners i'm not trying to offend you it's just my opinion i know there'll be a lot of you out there that are smoking that smoke weed probably smoking weed right now i don't think that you're uncool i don't know you but a lot of the weed smokers I know in my life have no ambition, no motivation, no drive, that I think it's really uncool.

55:22You could argue that all drugs are uncool, really. Yeah. But I know what you mean. The only people I've spent proper time around who used to love doing that were great until they did it. And like the days they were doing it, I was like, you're dull as fuck. I know someone who was, and I won't say who it is, but they were very successful, right? And they were knocking... Snoop. it was someone that i know that was like kind of like had been grafting at something for a long time and almost got their foot through the door and then they just started smoking so much weed that they never pursued that opportunity again and i've never seen somebody let something slip that much and i can only and based on how motivated this person was to how unmotivated they were in the space of a summer i can only put it down to that yeah and and like going back to all drugs it's like we've been at festivals we've been around people that are doing mdma and whatever like they they seem to have fun in the moment right they and and they but and then they park it and then they leave it do you know what i mean yeah and then that's their like release of a festival or a gig or whatever whereas weed smokers they make it their personality and they sit indoors i don't know why you would want to do a drug where you sit indoors and curtains closed and play FIFA for 10 hours or watch back-to-back box sets or eat Watsits all day.

56:46I think it's so lazy. There will be people out there that are functioning weed smokers. I know I have some in my family. Yeah. But I'm talking about the people who make it their life. I will say. They stink. That's what I was going to say. They fucking stink. One of the worst smells. The only people who like the smell are people who smoke weed. and if you even do a little bit of it, everyone around you knows for the next day. There'll be people in my life that's my weed and I'll see them and I'll be like, God, you stink. And they don't know they stink. And then you stink. It's like you can smell it halfway down the street, mate.

57:23Oh, it's mad. So I never used to think weed was cool, but I used to think it was more sort of like, yeah, I guess it is. Cool. I don't, yeah, as I said, I'd not done it before and we'll probably do Amsterdam at some point. Yeah. I do just worry it will make me just, like, not want to do anything. I think it'll be a funny, like, I always, I like the idea of it. I think it'll be a funny video to just go and have, like, a space cake or some gummies or something or even smoke it. But I will just fall asleep. Do you think it's a cultural thing here or something? Because in Canada, it's legal. And even before when I lived in Vancouver, everyone pretty much smoked weed there.

57:58Policemen and stuff, they smoked weed. It was, like, so common, more so than drinking, I'd say. Would you ever smoke it? to be honest. No, I don't really like the idea of smoking. Right, yeah.

58:09But there it seemed a lot more functional, I guess. Is it different stuff, though? Is it different strains? Oh, they know all about this stuff. They don't tell you. They were like, it's like having a sommelier. Do you know what my theory on this is? And it's only a theory. I think English people are very, when they go for something, they go for it. So we drink to excess, right? So I imagine we look at how many fucking kebab shops there are. We eat to excess. So I think we probably smoke to excess as well, where in other countries they don't have this binge mentality that British people do. So they probably have one or two joints throughout the day or whatever, whereas English people just want to get blazed and want to get the highest strain, and it's just too much.

58:51It does make gigs a bit of shit in Canada, though, because everyone's just stoned. Right, yeah, yeah. Shall we do one more? Robbie, do you want to give us one? Sure. I like doing these apps. Yeah, it's more serious chats, isn't it? Yeah, but I like it, though. It's nice, yeah. It's nice to have the balance, isn't it? I used to hate holidays where you sit around a pool. And now I've had some where I quite like them. Right, okay. Whereas before I would get exactly bored. I always think, oh, I'm going to quite, if you're tired, I think, oh, quite, I'll just sit around and read some books or something.

59:27But once I've read for like two hours, I'm like, quite bored of reading now what do I do for the next week yeah sort of like that whereas I think now I've been on a couple of holidays with Mark the Sexy Lawyer and his family sort of thing and it's just been really nice I don't know if it's because we've got another family with us or what but sometimes I think when you've been really busy it's quite nice just sitting yeah and just chatting and just being for a week still yeah you can do it for a week yeah in fact sometimes I think because we do the occasional day trip and that but I think maybe we'd be better off with two weeks or something like that yeah for it but I don't know it's just going to be getting more but I used to hate the thought of it the thought I think why would anyone do that yeah I see what you're saying I went to Tenerife with a bunch of mates in January and some of my favourite parts of that was we got an Airbnb and was just sat on the balcony yeah and just sat there for hours yeah reading footballers' wikipedia and drinking beers yeah yeah and I was like that's as fun to me as going out yeah and doing all that stuff I can't do it I just can't I just can't sit in I lose the plot You're a little bit like an excitable puppy though, aren't you?

1:00:30You need stimulation and so do I, I think. I always think though, I could enjoy those hours of doing that, but I'd rather do the balcony sitting and stuff after hours in the sense of like, I've gone to this other country. I don't want to spend my whole day sat indoors. Let's go out and do stuff. And then in the evening, I can still do that balcony bit where there's nothing else to go and do. Whereas during the day, there's so much to do. I just want to get out and do it. With Isaac, would you be the same as well? Yeah. yeah when we went to tenerife him and he really didn't want to leave the hotel one day and arian wasn't feeling great so they just stayed and i went out on my own what'd you do i went for a run which was nice just to explore different areas and i just went to had a look around a few shops and stuff and just walked along the beach and whatnot just because i couldn't just sit in i just can't i lose my mind i kind of i'm sometimes a bit i get like an itchy brain where i just want to be doing stuff all the time and then when i'm like in london for like four days or three days for work, I always think, God, I can't wait to just have a day on the sofa.

1:01:27But I never have a day on the sofa. As soon as you get home, you're thinking, what a waste of a day. I just need to go and do stuff. Yeah, 100%. Robbie, give us one more. I just did the last one. Oh, yeah. I'll give you another one if you want. Yeah, go on. Give us a quick one. Give us a quick one. Okay. Do you want a serious one or a fun one? Fun one. Let's finish on a fun one. I used to hate beer. I used to think beer was disgusting. Agreed. Completely agreed. We spoke about this before on the podcast. I used to think beer was disgusting. And now I think it's class. I think there's so many different flavours to it.

1:02:03I really like the taste. Yeah. Genuinely like the taste. Before it was like, for a while you're just like, oh, I can tolerate this. 100%. Sort of thing. Do you know, when we went out the other day, that first cruise campo we got went down so easily. Did it? Fucking loved it. I was buzzing with it. I've gone so far the other way now that when I was at uni and maybe a little bit older, all I'd ever have is fruity ciders. Yeah, I can't do that. I could not stand to order one now. It's mad. I had a hooch the other day. I don't mind a hooch. Super one or a normal one? No, a normal lemon one in Riley's.

1:02:30And it was so sweet. Probably just a bit too much, yeah. Yeah, mad. It's funny though, because beer, I've spoke about this on the pod recently, but I fucking love it now. I was speaking about it the other day, weren't I? But the other day when we went out, we weren't hitting. Really? Sometimes it don't hit. Oh, you went over to the Serrano quite quickly, didn't you? Yeah. Do you know what I've really started enjoying? What? A shandy. Great. Fucking love a shandy. It's so good. Shandy is so... It's like beer, but nicer. It's weak in the beer a bit. Bit of lemonade. I didn't know they tasted good.

1:03:01They're so nice. Can we go get one now? Yeah. Shandy's so good. All right, pod's done. Let's go get one. Let's go get a Shandy.

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