690 - The World Cup Of Everything III

7 Sep 2026 · 1 h 29 min · 37 chapters

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In short

Jackmates Happy Hour episode 690 continues “The World Cup of Everything III,” a bracket-style tournament of 16 random categories. This installment focuses on board games, debating which games advance, with lots of side talk about sleep, pets, and stress.

Guests/backgrounds

The episode features the regular friend group: Jack, Robbie, Stevie (no external guests). They banter about their sleep stats, hotel housekeeping waking them, and their pets (Jack’s cats, Robbie’s tortoise Flash, and the group’s cat-sitting confusion).

Key claims

  • Chess grandmasters are “cool” in a way Hungry Hungry Hippos grandmasters wouldn’t be; “grand wizard” (KKK leader title) is referenced as a shocking contrast.
  • Monopoly is criticized as the worst: too long, entrenched, and easy to “grind” by buying properties/hotels.
  • Guess Who is praised for subjective questioning (“would you trust this guy?”) and fast play.
  • Risk is defended as the best classic mainstream board game; Snakes and Ladders is pure luck.

Notable examples

  • Central Park chess hustling with a $20 bet.
  • Giant Hungry Hungry Hippos arcade “head gets stuck.”
  • Norwich Monopoly and the “Anglia Square” area being knocked down.
  • Operation and “tense/stress erections” discussion (explicitly framed as non-sexual).

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Chapters

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Sleep Talk and Hotel Experiences

0:59 to 1:35

The hosts discuss their sleep patterns and experiences at a hotel.

“you're about to do a load of train journeys.”

Sleep Talk and Hotel Experiences

1:49 to 4:30

The hosts discuss their sleep patterns and experiences at a hotel.

“Hello guys, welcome back to Jack Mates Happy Hour podcast.”

Cats, Pets, and Ownership

4:30 to 8:08

Conversations about their pets, particularly cats, and responsibilities of ownership.

“You've got more going on at home, don't you?”

Tortoises and Pet Care

8:08 to 12:46

A discussion about tortoise care and the complexities of pet ownership.

World Cup of Everything Overview

12:46 to 14:01

Introduction to the World Cup of Everything segment and its format.

“I have had a cat come around a couple of times and come in.”

Tournament Structure Discussion

14:01 to 14:50

Learn about the tournament structure and category selection for the finale.

“I've also done things you can be addicted to.”

Board Games Showdown Begins

14:51 to 17:01

The hosts kick off the discussion about board games, starting with chess vs. Hungry Hungry Hippos.

“Does that mean it's best to get it out of the way or is it best to...”

Grandmasters and Coolness

17:02 to 19:06

Exploring the concept of being a grandmaster in various games and its social perception.

“That's a great question because I really want to instantly slag it off, but I don't know if I can.”

The Great Board Game Debate

19:07 to 21:25

A heated debate over chess and Hungry Hungry Hippos and their merits as games.

“I thought you were so cool when you joined the Clue Class Club, but now I've found out you're a grand wizard.”

Monopoly vs. Jenga

21:26 to 22:49

The hosts discuss the drawbacks of Monopoly compared to Jenga, sharing personal experiences.

“Yeah, no, it's meant to bite you, but it's not meant to actually cause real damage.”
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Game Mechanics and Family Feuds

22:50 to 25:07

Exploring the mechanics of Monopoly and how it can lead to family disputes during gameplay.

“If a game finished in half an hour, you haven't got enough time to build up the anger.”

The Legacy of Anglia Square

25:08 to 27:08

A nostalgic discussion about Anglia Square and its significance in the hosts' lives.

“to watch it naturally fall when you've tried to build it too high because you're going oh can we get another the jeopardy is can we get another layer on it kicking it anyone can kick it Sounds like you like Jenga.”

Discussion on Board Games

28:00 to 29:18

The hosts discuss various board games including Monopoly, Cluedo, and Mousetrap.

“slowly i don't i fucking nail it i've got issues all right i've got issues your mum would be proud Any news Rob?”

Cluedo vs. Mousetrap Debate

29:49 to 31:55

A lively debate ensues over the merits of Cluedo and Mousetrap as board games.

“You like Cluedo because you love traitors.”

Guess Who vs. Scrabble Discussion

31:55 to 34:08

The hosts explore different games, comparing Guess Who and Scrabble in terms of fun.

“Right, I have a fun way of playing Guess Who.”

Risk vs. Snakes and Ladders

34:08 to 36:13

A conversation about the strategic elements of Risk compared to the luck-based Snakes and Ladders.

“I've never played Risk and I don't know what it is.”

Game of Life vs. Checkers

36:13 to 39:04

The hosts discuss the Game of Life and Checkers, weighing nostalgia against skill.

“Because you can learn techniques in your crosses that means if you start, you never lose.”

Operation and Tension Games

39:04 to 42:00

A humorous discussion arises about the game Operation and its effects, including unexpected erections.

“If you had to rate Game of Life out of 10, what score would you?”

The Stress of Intensity and Game Context

42:00 to 43:03

Discussing how stress affects physical reactions in gaming contexts.

The Appeal of Trivial Pursuit and Its Variants

43:04 to 44:05

Exploring the quirks of Trivial Pursuit and its variants in games.

“mean trivial pursuit would be operation because you don't want to be erect yeah i hate operation and hate it.”

Board Game Match-Ups: Chess vs. Monopoly

44:06 to 46:06

Debating the merits of Chess versus Monopoly in a fun game showdown.

“It's definitely not impressive to be good at Monopoly.”

Guess Who vs. Trivial Pursuit Showdown

46:07 to 48:26

Competing over the enjoyment of Guess Who and Trivial Pursuit in a playful format.

“It's about taking over the world and just generally being like the big dog in charge of everything.”

Finals Contenders: Guess Who and Trivial Pursuit

48:27 to 50:21

Determining the ultimate winner between Guess Who and Trivial Pursuit.

“I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Dajuda Ringlands.”

Tourist Attractions Face-Off: Taj Mahal vs. Empire State

50:22 to 52:43

Comparing the cultural significance of the Taj Mahal and the Empire State Building.

“Well, I'm only going to say if it's me next.”

Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park vs. Leaning Tower of Pisa

52:44 to 59:07

A humorous comparison of a local dinosaur park and the iconic Leaning Tower of Pisa.

“Is Empire State Building what King Kong climbs?”

Pyramids of Giza vs. Sydney Opera House

1:00:44 to 1:09:34

A discussion comparing the historical significance and tourist experiences of the Pyramids and the Sydney Opera House.

“Are you looking at the surroundings or are we saying it as just what it is?”

Eiffel Tower vs. Tower of London

1:09:34 to 1:10:01

Debating the appeal and historical significance of two famous towers.

“Seven, and I will go nine, Robbie, please.”

Paris vs. London: Personal Travel Experiences

1:10:01 to 1:11:19

The hosts discuss their contrasting views on Paris and London based on personal visits.

“don't think so people just get engaged there don't they Tower of London had a purpose didn't it?”

Exploring Iconic Landmarks: Eiffel Tower vs. Tower of London

1:11:20 to 1:13:16

A debate on the significance and history of the Eiffel Tower and the Tower of London.

“but that's it's interesting it's interesting that is the story behind it the photos or something or video or something.”

Comparing the CN Tower and the Palace of Versailles

1:13:17 to 1:14:33

Discussion on the CN Tower and Palace of Versailles as major tourist attractions.

“If Jack wants to go to the top of that, lift.”

Debating the Kremlin and Machu Picchu

1:14:34 to 1:16:46

The hosts weigh the historical and emotional significance of the Kremlin versus the allure of Machu Picchu.

“Okay, so we've got the Kremlin versus Machu Picchu in Peru.”

Coliseum vs. Great Wall of China: A Clash of Titans

1:16:47 to 1:20:26

A lively discussion comparing the Coliseum and the Great Wall, focusing on history and cultural impact.

“It's tough to get to the Kremlin currently.”

Final Showdown: Machu Picchu vs. Coliseum

1:20:27 to 1:23:51

The hosts engage in a spirited debate deciding between Machu Picchu and the Coliseum for the ultimate win.

“there you go there's another Google for you well I reckon but I've been long gone in it.”

The Clash of Iconic Attractions

1:24:00 to 1:27:14

The hosts debate the merits of various iconic landmarks, focusing on the Coliseum and Sydney Opera House.

“But you expect it with Sydney Opera House because it's kind of like an architectural marvel.”

Final Verdicts and Unforgettable Experiences

1:27:15 to 1:29:02

Discussion wraps up with conclusions on the best tourist attraction and games, highlighting memorable experiences.

“Nothing against the vaccines, but we can't have a tourist attraction win where the vaccines can play them.”

Final Verdicts and Unforgettable Experiences

1:29:03 to 1:29:14

Discussion wraps up with conclusions on the best tourist attraction and games, highlighting memorable experiences.

“with me Jack Maite Stevie White and Robbie Knox see you in a bit Jack makes happy hour.”

Final Verdicts and Unforgettable Experiences

1:29:44 to 1:30:11

Discussion wraps up with conclusions on the best tourist attraction and games, highlighting memorable experiences.

“I'm Glenn Washington, host of Snap Judgment, the award-winning storytelling podcast from KQED.”
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1:49Jack Mates Happy Hour. Hello guys, welcome back to Jack Mates Happy Hour podcast. I don't have much energy today, boys, if I'm honest. Robbie's here, Stevie's here, and I'm half here. Are you fully here? I'm quite tired. Right. How much sleep do you get? Let's talk about this. What, you want numbers? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I forgot you're a metric man. I'll give you stats, mate. I'll give you stats. Is sleeping good or rubbish? In this case, I'm pretty fair, according to... 68 sleep score. That's not correct, is it? That's all right, mate. It's fair. Mine's 12. You're sleeping... You checked the normal...

2:22I've lost... You've just got the hour 12. That's just the number at the top. how many hours did you get robbie i actually did all right six hours nine six hours 14 oh you always got on five up him yeah yeah you have that was quick math though wasn't it i was sick yeah someone who's had about i fell asleep i text you what time did i text you you text we stayed in a hotel last night not the same room no i'm wrong with that text me if it's the same room now i think you said the same room no one's doing that till now he said something to me yesterday that made it sound like that we were just talking about something and he went yeah but then i'd have to sleep alone and I went what?

2:58and he went yeah like without you there and I was like I'm not normally with you at night Jack no but we were talking about going to a scary place and I was like I would actually be scared to stay there because I wouldn't be staying in the room with you you guys have said you're not fucking a lot when no one's asked it does sound like you're so fucked it'd be quite cool if you were if you just suddenly just got together after all these years it'd break the internet it'd be like Dan and Phil yeah Yeah, yeah. I'd break my marriage as well. And you're soon maybe eventually to be married. They'd come to an agreement.

3:31I don't think Fiona would be that arsed. I don't think you'd be that surprised. She might be arsed. Jack, you messaged me at 4.41am just saying can't sleep. Ellipses. You're up. Yeah. Come back. Yeah. Yeah, no, I fell asleep about five. Yeah. And then I woke up at 11 minutes past eight because the lady who worked in the hotel was doing the housekeeping. Yeah. Why'd they do it that early? I got woken up by the same thing. Banging on the door, going housekeeping. I'm glad that they come round and clean the rooms. That is good news. But at that hour? I thought most hotels had a bit of a rule. Shouldn't be before nine.

4:11No way. People go to hotels to escape life. Do they? What do they just do? It's like a sleep in a different place where they live. I don't know. I go to escape life. Life? I don't, like, my life at home's fine, but when I got a hotel, I'm like, yeah. Really? I'm the opposite. I'm not, no. Much prefer being at home. You've got more going on at home, don't you? Yeah, you've got a cat. Oh, we've got multiple cats, mate. He's fucking gone mad. He's gone mad. I was with him yesterday. I've not seen you guys for a while. He's gone mad. I know people don't know because the episodes are random. Jack set up a second ring camera, but it's set up on the floor in his kitchen, facing his back door.

4:54That's been their month. You're asked. For him. For him. I could just check it out. You'll be here later, mate. You're up just like a rat. He got a notification yesterday when we were eating food somewhere and he just showed me and just went, that's a different cat. Yeah. It's just another cat just walked in his kitchen. New cats unlocked. How's it? You haven't got a cat flap, have you? Have you got a cat flap? No, but getting one soon. Okay. Because I'm going away for a while, so. Are you getting one that you can, like, limit the cats that can come in? No, because Titch, our cat, is not our cat.

5:29So we can't... But Titch is probably microchipped. What? They microchip cats. Doesn't that she ain't got a collar on? It's in the cat. Do you not allow a microchip in? They stick a chip in the cat. Our cats have got chips in them. How's that allowed? Like a needle. How the fuck? What? Like a gun type thing. No way. Like studding them. Yeah, because if someone steals it and just takes the collar off, But it needs to be inside the cat. So why is their owner not kicked off that we've had of her at nine months? Well, they don't give a shit. You messaged them. They didn't care. Yeah. And the logic of that is that she repeatedly will go back to, sorry to tell you, but she's not always at yours.

6:05Mate, she doesn't. This is what I've been banging my head against this drum for months. You're not home that often. When you're not there, she isn't. When I'm there, mate, so I'm... There's banging my head against this drum a phrase. There's banging my head against a wall, there's banging a drum. I've never been banging my head against this drum. He fell asleep at 5am, Robbie. Hang on. Oh, I've got 12 body battery today. Right. No. So when I go away, my nan comes round. Yeah. Right. Why do you keep looking at... I was just checking if you fixed the time on it, because it was wrong the other day, wasn't it?

6:36Yeah, I fixed it. My nan is there all the time, and she says the cat's there all the time. The cat's... When the cat doesn't... So, like, say me and Fee go to bed, and we shut the door at, like, midnight. We're like, right, the cat's not in, so she's not staying in the bed tonight, right? So we close the door. We look out of our bedroom window and she sleeps on the gazebo. Why is your nan round when you're not there? To look after the cat? Yeah. But it's not your cat. You don't need to look after it. No, but... During festivals, when we went to the festivals... I'm smashing this drum up. When we went to the festivals a month or so ago, he kept, him and Fi kept having conversations going like, we're going to be away for four days.

7:13Who's going to look after the cat? And they were messaging three different people to go like, can you go day one? can you go day two for a cat that isn't there it is our cat now though that's what i'm saying it never leaves because you keep you're allowing it if you don't look after it it will leave but we like it yeah i know so we won it well then yeah you're doing the right thing then owner has all of the of our num digits number that can call us if they want because you have not slept I know that's all of the digits that you can call him if you want. Yeah, and they don't. So, fuck him. We're giving Titch the best last send-off ever.

7:55Is Titch dying? Old. Real old. 16, no teeth. Yeah, but Ellis' cat's like about 45. Oh, fuck. We're fucked then. We are absolutely fucked. I had a dog for a bit. Yeah, well, how did Titch handle that? hated it would fuck off and not come back until the dog was gone why'd you have a dog my sister's friend went away for two weeks and they have this dog that they idolize so my sister looked after it for two weeks and during that two weeks there was two nights where she was away so i kept the dog what do you mean and they have a dog that they idolize like if they didn't idolize they would have left at home for two weeks on a time well i mean like it's irrelevant feeding your pet isn't idolizing it i'm not leaving it to die alone in a flat for two hours isn't like putting it on a pedestal yeah true true but yeah we had him around for a few days he went for titch a couple of times why are you causing that but then titch realized if she sits on the table outside he can't get her so she just sat there fucking mugging him off for a bit oh on the subject of pets i've got a flash update yeah not like a computer has a flash update because i don't think that's a thing anymore but like regular readers will know that we that there was kitty looks after a tortoise yeah sick that's back on again now because tortoise hibernation's over so flash is out and about and flash is only a bit of a fool and then sad old right old not as old as flash but old older than titch uh yep titch is 16 uh yeah it's an elderly lady so and she said do you know what i think i might be getting getting too old for flash can't keep up with the sprightly hundred-year-old tortoise so she's like maybe i need we need to start thinking about rehoming him and like to bev and she's like i'll go this is like saying like this is your this is she's going we could she she'd want you to go we could take the flash mantle and i'm like i don't know if i want to what what what because like you got to look after it like it on paper it sounds class yeah but you just give it a carrot a day and it's fine you've got to walk it or something it's got to go out for walks leave it in the garden just block off the bottom of the garden oh how would your cats deal with that well i think it'd be all right i mean you can't eat a tortoise can you just go in shell can't get through it also it's like in the winter they don't just go i'm gonna hibernate now you've got to like help them hibernate and stuff yeah yeah because they can't have food in their tummies so you've got to sort of slowly wean them off food and stuff like that so they this is news to me yeah it's news to me as well it turns out there's a lot of tortoise admin wow and maybe i don't want a tortoise that will outlive me i thought they would be super easy well i thought so yeah but i think you have to do and i got a lot of people now have a tortoise fridge to heat your tortoise in for the winter yeah that's where you that's you need that space for christmas don't you for your gravy and no it's just different normal fridge you're not put it in your normal fridge.

10:57Oh, I thought you put it in a box. No, he just said you have a tortoise fridge. Yeah, I think there's there's a lot of like they say like with your first hibernation first year round you might want to get some professional help to come and help you hibernate your tortoise. That's a lot of tortoise. Because you can kill it you can kill it if you mess it up. Wow. If we had a hundred year old tortoise and I killed it first winter I'd feel bad. Fiona's girlfriend's Fiona's What? What has happened in yours? Maybe you will be fine with this. She's like that on the side. The owner's sister's boyfriend has a massive tortoise.

11:31You seen it? I've seen a photo of you with a big tortoise. I assume it's his. Yeah, it's called Titan. And it's like... There's no tortoise with a shit name, is there? Yeah, we know three tortoises. We know Flash, Titan and Bloodwin. Like, those are the three best names I've ever heard. That's true. That's true. But he just walks about the gut. She just walks... Yeah, they thought it was a boy for years, called it Titan. And then they found out it was a girl. So she just struts around the garden. You don't have to do fuck all, really. That's big boy one, though. They're different, aren't they?

12:00You give it a big melon, it eat a big old fucking melon and shit. Well, no. So Flash dream dead, Cat dream still alive. Well, Flash dream not dead. I mean, you have to rush into a decision. Nah. Depends how elderly the lady is. Yeah. Quite elderly, but I mean, no signs that it's like an imminent... If you get home late and she's dead, are you taking Flash? Nah. So currently you're on the no side. You need... Well, also, there'd be no facility for us to get Flash. Like, it has to be an orderly transition of power. What if she wrote it into her will? Kitty gets Flash. Well, that's out of your control.

12:36That's out of my control, yeah. Yeah. Wow, okay. Yeah, so I've got two cats. Robbie's got a tortoise. No, I've not got a tortoise. But you will have. I think so. And what have you got? Nothing. I have had a cat come around a couple of times and come in. That's from him, though. Yeah. We've had a cat come in a couple of times recently. Not Titcher Cutest little thing Nah How big? Small I'd say it's like probably halfway between Kitten and Cat Wow It's a little Probably about three then Friendliest little cat ever Cats are good There should be a sitcom made about them What are we doing today? I don't know Like that's above my pay grade really Stevie's normally Stevie seems to be in charge these days It used to be you and I used to have like some input and now it's just Stevie just runs this whole thing and we just turn up Yeah, the amount of times I come here, like, what are we doing today?

13:25We are doing part three, because we've got a lot to go, and it's been a while. We're doing part three to the World Cup of Everything. Okay. For anyone who hasn't listened to part one and two, this is a series in which we're taking completely random categories, pitting things from those categories up against each other until we get a winner from 16 different things, and eventually we'll do a final of the most random World Cup of Everything ever. So far, we've covered different types of potatoes. Oh, yeah. I think crisps won, did they? I think they're always going to win, weren't they? I think Robbie did smells.

13:58Yeah, Robbie did smells. You did athletes. I've done athletes. I've also done things you can be addicted to. We've done animals. Animals. So if we've done five so far, we need to get to 16 to do a finale. And we can pick. We get free reign to pick whichever categories we want to pick, don't we? We do. Can I ask a question about tournament structure? Yes. Please do. Once it gets to the latter stages, because we're sort of in the groups, aren't we? Yeah, yeah. What's the next? Is it round of 16, round of 32? How many are you doing? All we're going to do is 16 to get the winners. Round of 16, yeah.

14:30And it'll just be the final, and it'll just be one final thing. I don't know how that'll happen because that's not going to be one episode, is it? No, we'll put that at the end of the last one or something. Yeah. So we've got to do 16 of these. Yeah, we're on five. And we're on five. Okay, so we're making good progress. We're getting there. And we'll be on eight after today. We'll be halfway through it after today. Today we have one category each. Who would like to start? Do you want to kick us off? You seem in charge. I tend to do the mundane categories. Yeah. Does that mean it's best to get it out of the way or is it best to...

15:01Mine's all right, I think. I think mine's very strong. Okay. Well, I'm happy to... I like mine, but I have done potatoes and animals so far. Give us a clue about yours. I'm doing board games. Is it board games? Wow. Hang on, give me a second. Work it out. all right okay um come on then let's let's let's get it out of the way are you ready for some board games give me some energy yeah i'm ready no i said i'm doing the mundane one you want it first no i'm not slagging it off i'm on a 12 body battery mate it's a rolex jack i'm i'm still i'm taking it as a 12 and i keep looking them crisps that are just off camera and i want them you're not eating crisps during a podcast i know that won't win any awards i'm sulking can i have the crisps yeah can i watch you eat them cut come a cut for crisps cut crisps first round chess oh versus hungry hungry hippos god that's a fucking scale yeah yeah chess is weird i think what god i think chess is like so boring right and but if you're the If you're a grandmaster, it's like you're a nerd right up until the point where you're in that elite 1%.

16:20Okay. And when you're in that, you're fucking sick. Don't get me wrong. If you're a rock and roll band, even if you've not made it, if you're going around pubs being a bit rock, you're still quite cool. Yeah. You get the Glastonbury Pyramid stage, closer, you're really fucking cool. So it's like a linear climb of coolness. Exactly. Whereas chess, it's like, just grow up, mate. What are you doing? and then you become a grandmaster. Is it just because it's called grandmaster? Yeah, it's a great name. If you were a grandmaster of Hungry Hungry Hippos, it wouldn't be as cool though. If you said that, they'd go, if you said I'm a grandmaster of Hungry Hungry Hippos, I'd go, I've had sex with a woman.

16:59For example, it wouldn't be good. What if the highest rank on Rocket League was a grandmaster? What is it? Because you're a grand champion first. Yeah, then it's supersonic. Grand champion, supersonic legend. I'm a grandmaster at Rocket League. That's a great question because I really want to instantly slag it off, but I don't know if I can. Right, I'm walking into a bar. You're there. Oh, we fucked. So tell me what you're... Do you play Rocket League? Yeah, I'm actually a grandmaster of Rocket League. Yeah, it's cool. Is it? I didn't find it cool. I didn't find the Hungry Hungry Hippos one cool.

17:30I think it's only the chess grandmaster that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, true. I don't know. I like that it makes me think Jedi. i i get the phrase grandmaster is sounds good but i think if you're a grandmaster of something shit yeah it doesn't sound cool i'll give you a little argument against it specifically being grandmaster that makes it cool when we went to america with sunny yeah jack and i um went out for a run so sunny just went off on a walk on his own and out of the blue central park sends jack a photo from him in central park and he's just playing chess with one of those old boys that's get there and play and we were like that's quite cool he's just randomly gone and done that and the guy said to him 20 to play if you beat me you get it back if i beat you i keep it so basically you either zero but you get the game and you win or you give the guy 20 yeah the guy beats sunny in like six or seven moves yeah and i think that's quite funny taking that why is that guy getting the money why can't it be a bet yeah i know why can't if i beat you i win 20 yeah Yeah, because the guy was confident he'd win anyway, but I guess he doesn't know he's going to walk past.

18:34That's just what they're doing all day, isn't it? They're hustling. Aren't the Ku Klux Klan leaders called Grand Masters or something? The Grand something. If they are, I think Hungry Hungry Hippos wins this round. Shall I Google it? Yeah. KKK. Grand. They might be called Grand... Grand Wizard. Okay. That's mental. Leaders of the Ku Klux Klan. The national leader of the Ku Klux Klan is called the Grand Wizard. That's quite sad. That is virgin behaviour. I think joining the Clue Class Club isn't class. It's not the title. I thought you were so cool when you joined the Clue Class Club, but now I've found out you're a grand wizard.

19:13I think you're a loser. We need to dig into this a bit more, though. That does sound like something they put on Rocket League. I'm a grand wizard of Rocket League. Sorry, like, fuck me. I know they're mental anyway, right? But, like... Fuck, woke. That's literally what my granddad would say if he had this. But look at the outfits. They're going around in little cloaks, call themselves wizards. Why do they not get more shit? I don't think people are keen on it. Oh my God, I am fascinated. I never knew they'd call themselves wizards. Yeah, mental. But that does now mean chess is still in the running.

19:54Okay, yeah. No wizards in chess. Self-appointed imperial wizard. Imagine if you were both the head of the Clues Clux clan and a chess grandmaster. I'm a grandmaster grand wizard. And a supersonic legend at Rocket League. I was using that as an example. I'm not a grandmaster. I'm shit at chess.

20:14And what are we thinking about Hungry Hungry Hippos? Kids game, bit of fun. It is good fun. Have you played the giant version that they have in arcades these days? No. Obviously not, mate. I've sex with all of them. Yeah. Yeah, that's why you've got kids and I've played it with Isaac. It's that, isn't it? Yeah, but the giant one, they've got it in Hollywood Bowl, you sit on it and then you've got the giant one, you're making this massive head go down and click the balls. I will never do that. I am making you do that at some point because I want to see you on it. Do it for one of your envelope things, make him do big hungry hungry hippos.

20:43Don't you win the game, don't you just press the hippo like that? Yeah, but it's timing. You've got to collect the most balls. What I'll say is quite often on hungry hungry hippo, the head gets stuck and you have to go and fix it. Yeah, that is annoying. And that never happens on chess. You never get your rook stuck. I am a stat man. I think most football fans love stats, right? So I do like that about chess. I do like that everyone has their ELO number, is it? Is it an ELO number? Yeah. Where have I made that up? No, it is ELO. Yeah, so everyone has their rating. I like that you can master it over years.

21:13I'm going chess, personally. Yeah, I think chess is better than Hungry Henry Embrace. I think it would be mental if we allowed Hungry Henry Embrace. Hungry Henry Embrace is fun for kids. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely fine. Talking of hungry hippos, did you ever have that little shark thing when you were younger? It's like a shark with teeth. Oh, and you press down on the tooth? And it bites you. I find that really stressful. Yeah. It does kind of hurt a little bit. It drew blood on me as a kid. Okay. Yeah. Weird. Wow, that is weird. You should have sent that one back. I think that's the point, mate. I think they want it to bite you.

21:43They're not meant to cut you, mate. It went bang. Yeah, no, it's meant to bite you, but it's not meant to actually cause real damage. You should put razor blades in it to make it put on the side teeth. It felt like razor blades when you were four. next round Monopoly it's a big boy versus wherever the other one is the next one's not really a board game but I'm counting it Jenga oh two stinks Monopoly's the worst board game it's the longest game to play in the world goes forever and there's also I think I might mention this here before there is a dull way to win it and it's what just buy every property and never trade you don't buy hotels you buy houses is there's a limited stock of houses and you can basically grind it out over a period of hours and it's really annoying.

22:30It's class to do because it annoys everyone. And they go just buy a hotel, you know. Nah. Yeah, sorry. I need to win. Yeah. But it is a flawed game. I'd argue that Monopoly has caused the most issues in families over any other board game. Well, it comes with that kind of territory where people flip the board. But it's the length of it, isn't it? If a game finished in half an hour, you haven't got enough time to build up the anger. But taking genuine hours for a game. See, I don't mind a game that you can invest time in and spend ages building. Yeah, I like a long game. Yeah, Habbo Hotel. I spent years building that.

23:09Yeah, but you're not all sat around just a board, four of you sat around a board for hours and hours on Habbo. But to add on what Robbie was saying, when you are winning, right? I guess it's a great name because when you have the Monopoly, all the money's coming to you and you're having a lot of fun. But to be on the receiving end of that, you then have to play the game out for a number of hours when you know you have no chance of winning. It gets entrenched, doesn't it? A lot of cheats. A lot of cheating in Monopoly. Like a little bit of a slide of the money from the bank. Who? There's a lot of cheating in Monopoly.

23:47Not when I play. I've never seen that. Wow. I don't believe. but Fiona won't swap with me do you know what I mean she thinks I'm crafty yeah she thinks I'm crafty so if I ever I want to do a trade she'll go you're doing this to benefit you and I'm like yeah that's the whole that's the whole point I wouldn't be doing it out of kindness yeah but she will if then like someone else offers her a similar trade she won't do it with me because she's like you're up to something I'm like yeah I'm trying to beat you yeah so is that other person yeah yeah so what are we thinking Jenga I played Jenga the other day it's alright Jenga it's noisy it's a bit annoying when you're in a pub and suddenly you hear bang!

24:28I was playing in a giant Jenga in a pub a couple of days ago with Isaac and Isaac got bored after I was in the stag in Salhouse and you got bored nice pub, I was just sat in the pub garden Isaac wanted to play are you playing giant Jenga? yeah and then he, on the grass though so it didn't make loads of noise but then he did kick it over because he got bored he kicked it over yeah he got bored that's him flipping the thing he wasn't even losing he was just like it looks more fun to hit loads over at the same time that will happen mate eventually yeah but that's bored just watching it tip he was like I want to destroy the thing rather than just going oh it's falling now I'd argue that point I'd say it's more fun to watch it naturally fall when you've tried to build it too high because you're going oh can we get another the jeopardy is can we get another layer on it kicking it anyone can kick it Sounds like you like Jenga.

25:18I had Simpsons Monopoly as a kid and I loved it. I said Jenga. Yeah, I just went back to Monopoly. Which one do you prefer? Do you know what? I actually think I might be Monopoly. Jenga for me. Is it? Yeah. All right, Stevie, decide and vote. Ariane bought me Pokemon Monopoly three Christmases ago. What did you buy? Locations or Pokemon? Couldn't tell you, mate. She bought it for me three Christmases ago. I still haven't even taken the plastic seal off the box. Be worth some bumps later on there. I've got Norwich Monopoly at home. It's got Ewan Roberts on the front. That dates it slightly, doesn't it?

25:47The guy that we just see in the gym or whatever. Yeah, mad. Oh, fuck. So you've gone Jenga, you've gone Monopoly. What's the dark blues on the Norwich one? I want to know what the most expensive part of Norwich is. I think there's a bit of like, there's some kind of corporate deal they've got on because there's lots of logos of business and stuff. So I try and find out the Norwich Monopoly board. Yeah, I want to know the browns. I want to know the shit places. If Anglia Square wasn't on there, I'd be shocked. And I want to know the top tier dark blue places that are meant to replicate Mayfair and Park Lane.

26:13There's someone up for Anglia Square though. Yeah, it's gone. Gone, but never forgotten. Everyone from the Norwich or Norfolk area, you'll know what we're saying here when we say someone up. Anglia Square. Anglia Square was just an absolute scummy shopping place where I spent a lot of my childhood. Little shopping centre, little square on the outskirts of the city centre. So really run down, really tacky, not the most affluent area. And Stevie and I, 33 now. It's been there our whole lives. but ever since we're born, there's always that rumour in Norwich, Anglia Square's getting knocked down. They're knocking it down.

26:47Ever since I can remember. There were massive buildings next to it that never had anyone inside. Offer spots I've never seen anyone in for 30 plus years. They've knocked it down this summer. Gone, gone. Savers, gone. Shoe zone, gone. Mad, still got a subway, still got a spoon somehow. What are you saying, Robbie? Because there's only much filling we can do with Anglia Square. Ever seen a pigeon there? What I can say, because you guys have gone opposite Monopoly and Jenga here, I've got a good argument for both that Monopoly's variation in being able to have all these different types that people will buy into like Norwich, Pokemon, whatever Star Wars it's great like you'll get fans from those who are going oh you know what I will because I like being able to oh my god I own Mos Eisley Cantina or whatever Jenga have you ever played drinking Jenga?

27:30nah it's a great little pre-drinking game you pull out the block you don't and then whatever it says on it you have to do okay I'm gonna say right off the bat I don't think I like drinking games but you love games i love games i don't think i like drinking games come around mine for a for a pre pre drink session we'll have we'll play games but the fourth it won't be drink your drink just drink your drink at your normal speed enjoy it because why are we making the punishment during a drinking session to drink the drink that i was already gonna drink because you drink it slowly i don't i fucking nail it i've got issues all right i've got issues your mum would be proud Any news Rob?

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29:48Cluedo versus Mousetrap. Easy winner for me. Really? Easy winner. You don't know me, bro. i play a bit of cluedo

30:04i do i do i do play a bit of cluedo um i don't really like it my kids like it okay um i find i'm never sure what how you're supposed to use the bit of paper well like i know like you're supposed to wait are you where are you ticking where you what are you doing you got your right your notes of who you think it is yeah but i don't really you can cross off things to be like i know it's not that yeah you eliminate don't you you eliminate yeah i get yeah but i didn't i don't know i just find it but i think it's a murder mystery isn't it is but then it gets a bit annoying as well people keep putting your character in a different room miles away and you can never get to where you want to go yeah yeah yeah that's i guess that's mousetrap technique yeah i haven't played it since i was a child i have very fond memories i think it's class and I think enough board games have mechanisms and stuff and it's fun to watch isn't it I don't know what it is what is it it's like the ball goes around and like the mouse is under and then it's the one with like the cage that's down and catches the mouse I don't think I've ever played it really I can't remember how you play it I can't remember what I remember nothing from it except that it was fun to watch it when it happens yeah there's a bit of excitement in that isn't it yeah it really goes I'm gonna go Cluedo I think it's a good game Mousetrap for me you can decide again see Cluedo If Mousetrap beats Cluedo, fuck me.

31:23You like Cluedo because you love traitors. What? Is that some of it? That's your vibe. Yeah, it's just a murder mystery, Jack. Is it? Same sort of thing, innit? Yeah. You're literally trying to figure out who's the person getting rid of everyone. Yeah, but when I play it, I don't really see it as all who's the killer. I'm just like, which word is it going to be? What? Do you know what I mean? If that's the same thing, which person's it going to be? Yeah, true. You've done me there like Kipper.

31:50I'm gonna go it has to be Cluedo thank you but I do love the mechanism but Cluedo is it's not a board game Mousetrap is not a board game you two really stick together since you started fucking what eight years ago what do you mean no I mean really fucking like panned in Mousetrap is a board game Jenga wasn't okay why put it in there then Scrabble versus Guess Who. Oh. Right, I have a fun way of playing Guess Who. Oh, what's your opener? It's not, I like playing Guess Who, but not like saying, does he have a moustache? Yeah. I like saying, would you trust this guy? Would you leave your drink uncovered around this guy?

32:39That is good. And if you're not allowed to ask questions about the appearance, it makes it much more fun. That's good. That is very good. personality traits because it's subjective as well yeah what you leave your kid around yeah do you think this person's a good driver yeah women down

32:59that's great that is good yeah so that's a fun way of playing it does lead to arguments yeah yeah scrabble also leads to a lot of arguments fuck scrabble yeah scrabble's for cunts yeah Scrabble I don't want a fucking spelling lesson and it's like you just it's not if you play Scrabble against someone else you shit at Scrabble it's fine if we played Scrabble fine maybe not him because he's probably one of these guys if we played Scrabble you and Nijak fine but people like Stevie who go oh I've learnt loads of words with two letters on and they go XO is a word it means a fucking cat in Peru and you go well it doesn't matter because none of us know that and it's just shit yeah agreed Well put, well put.

33:40And also, most of the answers to that Tension game we play are all about Scrabble, and that annoys me. What? Yeah, when we played Tension last time, we just kept on loads of Scrabble ones. It's always like, what's the Scrabble score? I don't know, mate. I play Scrabble. Oh, with Ian? Yeah. Oh, right, yeah, fair. I think we're all... I'd go guess. Guess who's so simple as well. Any board game you need a dictionary or a calculator for, not asked. Yeah, you want the simplicity. Guess who has absolutely fucked over Scrabble then? Yeah. Guess who, not Scrabble. You like that? Risk! You said you like long games.

34:12Risk versus Snakes and Ladders. I've never played Risk and I don't know what it is. I don't know how you play it. You basically tried to conquer the world. That's the simple side of it. Seems a lot. Yeah, it is a lot. It's a fairly long format game. You've played this? Out of all the mainstream board games, Risk is the greatest. No way! Risk is unreal. For a basic, classic board game, I'm not talking like the new, sort of like slightly sort of obscure. Yeah. I'm not talking your Carcassons or your Settlers of Catan. Right. But out of the old school board games, I think Risk is the greatest. Wow.

34:50I don't know. I thought Risk was like a dice game. First base game. I mean, again, I haven't played for ages. I've not played for a long time. I'm going to play just roll five dice and see how many maps. No, but you have to sort of take over different areas and it's like you put your armies in certain places. There's a lot of like phone games that kind of follow the same format of Risk. Like Clash of Clans? I guess so. I think they're trying to take over places. Obviously, there's different elements to it, but that is kind of all it is. You're seeing who can own the most of the board. Right. I used to love Risk, but for some reason, I've not played Risk for a long time.

35:20Snakes and Ladders, simple. You can get it in a park on the floor. No skill, though. Pure luck. Yeah, it's pure luck. It is pure luck. Games are worse if it's pure luck, isn't it? Yeah, I agree. Because there's no skill element. Yeah, Snakes and Ladders, you play the kid because it's easy, but you're not going to go, we wouldn't go do you want to come around and play snakes and ladders yeah that's true if you said you want to play Risk I'd go yes I will say out of everything we've picked so far no luck has managed to get through to the next round what is the luck? what one's the luck? um yeah Hungry Hungry Hippos can be a lot of luck if you're it's not pure luck though there's technique there's tactics we want pure luck are you smashing it or are you waiting for them to come close then nah you're right none of them luck alright thanks to that apology accepted I've already put Risk in because neither of you are going to give this yeah you just give it risk and I don't even know what that is the game of life yeah versus checkers checkers is that checkers drafts yeah that's the one where you hop over the ones here diagonally yeah and you can do like if you're good at it you can lure them in and then you can kind of go over are you all right with a bottle there?

36:32yeah I'm good you can go over loads of their things in one move oh you hop hop hop yeah you lure them in you could make it look like you've only got one left and they're trying to pin you in and then you can hop over all of them and suddenly we're not out of nowhere can i ask a question about pre uh upcoming fixtures yeah is backgammon on there you can't tell you can't reveal like you can ask i'm not going to tell you though why is that relevant because backgammon is a better version of checkers a more skill-based version and growing up it's the game i played the most my mom was addicted to it is skill-based it's just simple oh but is it oh your things it's like Connect 4 fuck off if you think you're good at Connect 4 fuck off

37:10you think you're good at Connect 4 don't you no I'm shit here I'm bringing in a Connect 4 next time we're in the studio there's no skill to it it's just dropping things it aren't there's some anticipation yeah there's some things you look ahead and go if they do this here I've got two ways to win and they're fucked it's very simple do you think it's cool to be good at noughts and crosses? No. No. Because you can learn techniques in your crosses that means if you start, you never lose. Just try and get three corners straight away. You're flying. Yeah. There's various things. Whereas Checkers, Connect Four and noughts and crosses are all in a similar vein to me and they will never win on this game.

37:53Well, what do you think of the Game of Life? I never played it. And they're still going to win for you? Yeah. You hate Checkers that much, Game of Life wins? If it was backgammon, now we're talking, bit more to it, got a bit more about it. That's Chekka's cooler, sexier, older brother. Okay. I loved the Game of Life when I was a kid. Yeah. Like, it was a fun game to play. It's the one, you don't get a dice. Instead, there's like a little circle spin, like a left type wheel on the board instead that goes like one to nine. And you drive a car and you fill it with kids, don't you? Yeah. You get a family.

38:23What are you writing down? Game of Life. Yeah. Yeah. No, but Game of Life as well, you've got that big decision where do you go to uni or do you just go straight into work and go uni you won't earn you won't do as well to start with then you might speed up and you go on that separate track how do you win the game of life get to the end first die first I don't know yeah I think it's about earning it's basically living a better life and like getting a family and but it's quite there's quite a lot into it for such a simple game I think it's not age well because like it's obviously like if you go to like uni you then get more money whereas like these days it seems to be like Bill does the sensitive and loads back right right fair well I'm putting are you going to go game of life because he's still against checkers.

39:00I don't mind checkers. I'll go Game of Life. I'm going Game of Life for nostalgia. If you had to rate Game of Life out of 10, what score would you? Eight, yeah. Great game. Trivial Pursuit versus Operation. Very different. Operation used to give me an erection. Genuinely. Us going through that. Genuinely. Trivial Pursuit made me cum. Sorry. we can all play that game what do you mean? as a kid or like yeah kid you would use it to electrocute your penis no no no now you're thinking outside the box this was much more you were fucking inside the box basic you were fucking the box so that game where because you you have to get the bones out don't you yeah that's not what they meant first step get out of the bone okay now it looks like I've got an erection and then every time you touch the metal it electrocutes it like it buzzes doesn't it yeah the same as that wiry one.

39:58Oh, I hate that. Yeah. Yeah, but you'd feel that one. The operation, it just vibrates a little bit. Right. There might be some people out there that think I'm a nutter for this, but I think there will be, I think we'll be surprised. Get in the Spotify comments. This is the comment question of the day. We're going to start doing this, by the way. Comment question of the day. Did, what's that called, that wiry thing, Stevie? What is that called? I know what you're talking about. When you try and get the hoop through like the long bending metal without it electrocuting or vibrating. If you touch the metal, it buzzes, it goes off.

40:27Oh, it's so stressful. Yeah, it's horrible. So that and Operation would give me like a tense erection. That one, the metal one where you've got to take it around, that would be if Squid Games were made in Britain, that would be the game they'd play. Yeah, that's a great shout. Yeah, you'd die if you touched it. Oh, did you just say an intense erection? Sorry to bring it up. Thank you for picking up on that, Stevie. I missed that. And I would have been devastated if I listened back and we hadn't commented on that. because because i'd be all i'd be all tense i'd be tense because i don't want it to and then like are you naked at the time i'm just trying to picture this no one's commented saying they were erect over operation like sometimes do you ever get an erection when when like people probably no matter what you say to robbie and i now we're probably both going to say no when you're alive i'll be honest but i know it's gonna be a no yeah like can I do what I want to do on you and see if you like fuck him hold on hold on before tell the listeners if I get an erection for audio listeners though before Jack does what he's about to do you've said the sentence do you get an erection when and then you're going Robbie can I do this to you so in your mind there's a potential chance he's about to get an erection with what you do to him I don't know if he'll if he's but there's a chance because you're saying you get an erection just confirm soft Soft, soft, soft.

41:45Okay, go on. Can I just preface this by saying this is not a sexual thing? It's just so, you know sometimes... We'll be the judge of that. Right, if I do this to you.

41:56You kind of just... What? Whatever that is, no one's ever done that to me before. That's not like a thing. The fact that you had to do it. That's play, you're play fighting. No, like, if someone gets intense on me, like, I panic and I get hard like my body gets tense you get stress erections but yeah stress I think stress gives me erections Robbie's had enough oh my god do you know what I mean no but I suppose it's also context dependent I reckon if Margot Robbie did it to me it might be different than if you did it to me in a podcast while Stevie's watching what if I wasn't watching oh yeah oh yeah i think the stress and anxiety like not anxiety but tension tension not the game but tension gives me erection sometimes how did you feel at the world cup no no no it's not like that it's more just the the physical stress of something so does that mean trivial pursuit would be operation because you don't want to be erect yeah i hate operation and hate it.

43:10How do you feel about Trivial Pursuit? Yeah, I like it. You get to flex your knowledge. Yeah, I don't mind it, yeah. I like a quiz game. I find I never played Trivial Pursuit that's been made in the last 15 years. It was always that really weird question about like Minder or some sitcom from the 80s or something. There's always an answer that's West Germany or something. When we went to that place for my birthday and played the darts, there was like a Trivial Pursuit version of darts, like a quiz one. and like we threw the first dart and the first question was like who won the 100 metres in 1986 and I was like what the fuck like why is that even a question yeah who's the current holders of the FA Cup it'd be like Port Vale but this is an electronic brand new dart system that only got made like six months ago and I'm like why the fuck are these the questions yeah so yes go still that we're still going Trivial Pursuit yeah I'll go Trivi I don't like pointless bonus Trivi P okay you don't like pointless bonus yeah okay final round before we go through to the quarters is connect four oh fuck it off versus battleships yeah battleships strategic fun yeah nice nice you sunk my battleship you can say the end as well that's good you got to say it in a kind of kiddy american voice you sunk my battleship it's the simpsons episode yeah you sunk my battleship yeah chess versus monopoly so we rattle through these now.

44:31We've spoken about them mostly. Chess versus Monopoly. I'll go Monopoly on that one. You've gone chess? Yeah. You hate Monopoly. I do. I hate chess even more. You could be a grandmaster of chess. Grandmaster of Monopoly sounds melty. Yeah, they both do. I'll change your tune. It's definitely not impressive to be good at Monopoly. Do you think it's genuinely impressive to be good at chess? Yeah. But you've got to be really good. You can't just be quite good at chess. which one's more enjoyable to play I've played a super super well known chess player before like one of the best Magnus Carlsen you'll know her what's her name now apologies everyone out there will be screaming it she's an attractive chess player everyone loves her

45:23I played chess with her once Fiona put a photo up fuck you Robin gonna put a photo up and she beat me in like three moves okay or like however many the minimum amount of moves see that doesn't sound enjoyable to play though no but I'm like that's fucking impressive because I'm trying to beat you I'm going Monopoly does that mean Monopoly wins a round? yeah 2v1 mate simple math I didn't know who said what I forgot Cluedo versus guess who guess wasn't that i thought that was the previous round no it was against mousetrap and guess who was against scrabble so now we've got cluedo versus guess who cluedo guess who i think i'd go guess who more enjoyable easy to play i'm having a stinker with robbie's new rules i think that's gonna make me really want to enjoy another guess who yeah alternative guess who goes through normal guess we would have lost risk versus the game of life never played either you two can take this one i'd go game of life i still love risk um pick one then uh just random yeah you i suppose you have to um teapot t-e-a-p no no you gotta think of you gotta think of the i we got 10 seconds each to give an argument sell yours it's about trying to give yourself the best life possible you can go to uni or you can get a job you can have a family and kids and a pet you can get a cat like Titch and then you die.

46:54Robbie, go. It's about taking over the world and just generally being like the big dog in charge of everything. Not just some pathetic little, oh, he's my life, but being like the big dog. Big dog. Grand wizard. Robbie won it. Big dog. You want to be a grand wizard? You just tried to fucking tell me I can have a cat, which I really like. Yeah, I was offering world domination. You're offering what he has. final round of the quarters is trivial pursuit versus battleships trivial pursuit yeah yeah completely agreed we're trying to get trivia p to stick here not catching on is it no okay semi-finals monopoly versus guess who gotta be guess who monopoly monopoly's so shit and we all said it was shit at the start for some reason made the same that's how it gets you though Monopoly.

47:41No one ever wants to play it and you find yourself playing it. I don't. But you've really reinvigorated my love for Guess Who. But think about how thrilling it is when you are the don of it and the dollars are coming your way. Yeah, but I like the speed, the fast pace of Guess Who and you can get loads of different versions of Guess Who as well. You could get like a football team as your Guess Who. Yeah, but that's not as fun. I like the standard. I think... Yeah, but it's funny if it was a football team. You could be a top hat or a dog or train. I'm going guess who. Guess who, yeah. What? Yeah.

48:14You were arguing again. Just wanted to win. Synthetic. And then the other semi-final is Risk versus Trivial Pursuit. Oh, this is the big... What are you wanting to see in the final? This is when you've got a World Cup and you've got the two good teams at the semis and some shit. Yeah, this is Argentina-England. Admit it. Admit it, Robbie. What? This is Argentina-England. As opposed to France-Spain.

48:42I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Dajuda Ringlands.

48:49Oh, I don't know. Why am I stressing over this so much? I'd go Trivi or Pursuit. I'll go Trivi P. Caught on. Caught on. Trivi P. Caught on. Trivi P. I never thought Trivi P would be in the final versus Guess Who. Yeah, that's mental. That is the final. Guess Who versus Trivi P. I mean Trivy P depends who you're with because if you are with people who are a bit smart you know the guys who play the pub quiz machines like semi-professionally yeah if you're with someone like that it's just a bit shit if you're playing it with Dara Ennis you are one of the fucking shooters out in the head but really all of these games all of these games you could say that though like what if I was playing Guess Who with Dara Ennis I want to shoot myself in the head I wouldn't say that you might I reckon I could beat Dara Ennis at Guess Who no maybe not Guess Who but I'm saying like most of these games if you're playing with other people who are really good at that specific thing it's not enjoyable.

49:41You mean I was really good at Guess Who? No, Guess Who's one of the outliers but a lot of the other ones if someone is good at the tactics of a game or whatever they're less enjoyable unless you're playing with people who are about as good as you. The best game ever by the way is Chameleon by Big Potato Games. Not an ad but get on that. Anyway, back to this. Sounds like an ad. Guess Who? Also, we're not fucking by the way. Guess Who? versus Trivial Pursuit. I'm going Trivy P. I don't think, guess who can win. It can. Trivy P. Oh. Trivy P is the winner of the board games. I'm so surprised by that.

50:21I don't even like Trivy P that much. Yeah, I'm shocked. I never ever choose to play it. I like this. That's why I like this format. Right. We spent way too long on that. What's your category, Robbie? My category? Well, I'm only going to say if it's me next. Oh, which one do we want to do? Out of 10, how confident do you feel in your category? Eight. Jack? This is the strongest one I've done. You've done what? How's the question? 10. Okay, so should I go first then? Save yours? Save the possibly best to last. I am doing tourist attractions. Okay, I like it. World tourist attractions. I like it.

51:02Around the world, we might not visit them. What you've done, when you do it, do you pick the match-ups? Because I've just done a list and I've not really thought about it. Random. I just put it into a generator. Oh, I've not done a generator. Do you want to just pick numbers, 1 to 16? Still works, same thing. Still works. We're your generator. Okay, pick Stevie. You will draw the home teams. Jack, you will draw the away team. Okay. Pick a number 1 to 16. I would like to go 3. Okay, I will go 15. I don't know how to then make this work to do it I'm going to bowl the ones that we've done Do you want me to write them down while we say that?

51:41Well maybe So three Taj Mahal Nice Versus 15 The Empire State Building Ooh Okay Okay well we were in New York recently It's hard to judge these without seeing them though isn't it? Yeah but we've seen them I've never seen the Taj Mahal You've never seen a picture of it? Taj Mahal, basically, I think it was someone made it for their bird. They were like, I've made this. Oi, close your eyes. I've made you this massive thing. I think that's what the Taj Mahal is. It might be wrong. That's doing too much, that. What's that guy doing? It shows us up. Yeah, he's definitely having an affair. Yeah. Yeah.

52:23I mean, if I speak a little bit out of line to Fiona at some point, I try and make it up to her by making her a cheese and ham toasty. Yeah. Vegan ham. He must have done something real bad. Yeah. He's done something real bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know the full story, but yeah, but it does look sick. I've never been, it does look sick. To me, the Empire State Building is this massive thing in films. Yeah. Is Empire State Building what King Kong climbs? Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, it is. So when we were in New York, I hadn't seen it the whole time we were there. And on the final day, I was like, I should see it whilst I'm in it.

52:57so I walked like 25 minutes just to go and look at it. And I got there and I'm like, so many buildings. I think it probably was good when it came out. Yeah. But now it's like a bit shit because it's not that big. I did like, I think on the old GTA game you could fly up to it and jump off it. Yeah. Found fun. Taj Mahal, my mate went there and said that across the, what was he saying now? Across the road from the Taj, like Taj Mahal, there's a woman having a shit. What, always? No.

53:32he said she just saw it

53:37she's busking it's like the norwich puppet man i think in america you see the empire state building and it's not in new york it's not impressive because everything else is so big around it i think if you were at the taj mahal it would look so much more impressive compared to the things around it i'm not going taj mahal I'm not I'm just not I went when I went to America on the way to Canada that emergency trip to America we were staying like opposite the Empire State Building we went to the kids I was at the Empire State Building they were like cool can I have a photo with 7-Eleven yeah I think I think the Empire State Building was probably a bigger thing to old movies and stuff it's lost its charm it's lost its charm but at the same time never hear anything about Taj Mahal anymore when I was a kid you learnt about it and beyond that I'll go with Empire State Building you never hear anything about What's Taj Mahal done lately?

54:28Not many of these have done stuff lately. Not in movies and shit, is it? I'm going Empire State just because I think it's in the Western world more iconic. I know more about it. New York's cool gaff. My mate really wanted... So Taj Mahal... Why have you picked it saying you're picking it because it's in the Western world? No, I just know more about it. I'm more educated on it. Why did you say that then?

54:52I don't want to go to India. Fair. okay i don't want to go from what i've seen and heard i don't want to go i went to india on my honeymoon yeah um and it was it was amazing like it was such an amazing experience did you go to we're in that area we're in kerala um but we were constantly shitting ourselves and one of us was at all points that's exactly we're all the whole time through we're going to be able to go oh it's been classmate what a wonderful country what a brilliant place and we're on the plane back and like in between like going to the toilets to have diarrhea and stuff like that we're going oh yeah it's a good one it's a good one it's a good one it's a great place I love the people so warm so friendly I just went great we're going to America but it's really amazing America's so good let's go based on that Empire State I'm going to yeah fine yeah okay next round Robbie I would like are you keeping track of the next round okay you just keep track of the winners I'll keep track of what we've done but we don't know your order so to make it easier I'll only pick from the first half and I'll go no you can No, no, no.

55:54Just go forever. Well, no, I guess I'm going 16. Okay. And I'll go one. This is good. This is a good one. So we've got Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich versus the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Fucking hell. Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich, for those of you who haven't heard it or don't know it, is actually class. Yeah. Fairly big dinosaur park with some animatronic dinosaurs. You do a lot of walking there. there's a lot to see, a lot to learn and then out of nowhere there's all these cables and stuff that you can climb up in the trees. Always changing, they've opened up a new, like this sounds like we're doing an ad read for raw dinosaurs and vegetables.

56:33I wouldn't mind. But they've got a, they've opened up, I just saw it on Instagram the other day, some kind of, I think the UK's biggest like, Zip wine? No, like tube, tubing, where you sit in a tube and go down some track. That's fun. See, that's fun. Which you can't do at the Lean Tower Pisa. There's like a big play area indoors and then there's just a random mini water park thing at the back where a huge bucket can drop water on your head and stuff. It's in the middle of nowhere in Norfolk so it's really unassuming. If you know, you know. If you don't know, you don't know. It's one of Norfolk's best kept secrets.

57:04I, all day long, am saying that Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park is better than the... Full name, please. Yeah, I did, didn't I? Raw Adventure... You just say in Norwich, which I called it, even though it's not actually in Norwich. Is that his name on company sales? We're calling it. Okay. I'm going to vote for Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich to beat Italy's Leaning Tower of Pisa. What's good about the Leaning Tower? It's a tower made with faults. It's encouraging poor workmanship. If my builder came round and they fucked up my house, I'd have Jack's house. Like that's that. If you speak Leaning Tower of Pisa, that's basically like your Taylor Wimpy.

57:39Taylor Wimpy built the Leaning Tower of Pisa and can't be arsed with the photos of people trying to hold it up. That's not bad, if any idea. Yeah, but that's not unique. Everyone's done. in that. Yeah. Sit on it at least. You can make it a little different pretentious penis. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine and sitting on it, fine. Slightly to the left. Having said that, I've got a photo every four hours at uni where there's this dinosaur with big eyes going, and I'm pretending to show it my penis. So you can do funny photos with each. Well, you did this at Raw? When I was in like 21, yeah. At Raw? Yeah.

58:08I don't think it was even called Raw. No, it wasn't called Raw. I think it was just called the Dinosaur Park. It was called the Dinosaur Park, yes. And then Raw, the company tried to make it a brand. So Leaning Tower is only known because it's fallen over. It's shit. Yeah, no, I'm going Raw. Raw Dinosaur Vodafone. The surprise winner there is really Darapeza. Raw won that. Stevie, next number. Home team, I'm going to go number six. Yep. Versus four. Ooh. Your favourite friend group is back. FX's Adults follows five roommates living in New York leaning on each other to navigate love, work, friendship, and family while tackling pressing questions of your 20s like, what if the person who inherited your fake ID is cooler than you ever were?

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1:02:06So it depends. Are you looking at the surroundings or are we saying it as just what it is? I think, well, because Robbie's called this category tourist attractions, right? So not iconic landmarks. If it was iconic landmarks, I'd go pyramids. But if you, to go to... I've called it that, but it's a bit, it's the same sort of thing. My thing is like, if we're judging these based on just how cool are these things, right? then the pyramids would win the entire thing, I think. But because it's named tourist, I'm imagining myself going there and being hassled by all the blokes trying to nick a quid. And I don't want that.

1:02:44What do you do at Sydney Opera House? Don't say go and watch an opera. Well, that's probably what you do. You can watch gigs there. Just gigs. Can you? Okay, so it's probably a more enjoyable experience if you go at the right time. And it just looks class, isn't it? Like for modern buildings, it's the big one. Is there any modern building that's more famous than that? Have you seen gigs there? I've never been to Sydney. Oh, okay. I saw gigs there. He brought out Skepta.

1:03:39I get it before you say it but I'm going to go Sydney Ops perhaps as well because I think it's unique in that it's the most iconic modern building. I've never heard a negative about Sydney Ops. No one's ever gone, don't go there. You're doing Is Egypt Good or Rubbish with Natasha Bedingfield, aren't you? Right, Geezer wins. No losers, big times. Yeah. Okay, Stevie. Two. Versus, let's go 11, Robbie, please. Okay, good. You've gone for, it's an interesting battle, you've gone for Edinburgh Castle versus the Forbidden City in Beijing. I know nothing about that. No, neither do I. But there's one thing I found out today when I was doing this.

1:04:23It is the most visited tourist attraction in the world. What? The Forbidden City in Beijing. It might just be because there's loads of people in China. Yeah, is it just Chinese people going? Is it just? You'd recognise it when you see the pictures of it. But in Raw Dinosaur Park... Does that count? No, but Royal Dunlap Park really is just Norfolk and Suffolk people going for the most part, isn't it? Yeah, but... But when you're in a place... They're still people, bro. They're all there already, aren't they? I'm saying no one's flying there purely to go to it. You'd recognise it. That's what it looks like.

1:04:52That's the Forbidden City. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. It's not impressing me. It don't impress me much. So it's a UNESCO World Heritage Site, which doesn't impress Jack. It's the most famous palace in Chinese history. Again, not impressive to Jack. and the largest preserved royal palace complex still standing in the world which Jack does not think is good. Give me raw adventure. That's not the battle we're playing. We're up against Edinburgh Castle which is class. Yeah. If anyone goes for first time to Edinburgh and sees Edinburgh Castle you're like, holy fuck because it's on the rock. It looks sick.

1:05:24You ain't getting into that mate if you're in the olden days. Do you know what my algorithm is on TikTok at the moment? Women with big tits on trampolines. Yeah. Okay, what's second? not on trampolines and then third is women with small tits on trampolines Edinburgh Castle is my algorithm is it? yeah I'll show you you think I'm making this up I do think it's the women on trampolines and big toes but yeah oh my god I'm so excited if he opens this and there's a woman on a trampoline very brave to go up and pop you've got to show the camera I'm going on reels I guarantee Edinburgh will come up within 15 okay right are you doing reels?

1:06:04I think you're doing four of you Paige two 3 Danny Boy shout out no don't shout out shit 7 8 this is boring sorry guys 9 that was an ad 9 10 shit 11 oh this is not looking good Kat and Bob Mortimer two great things 13 fuck oh what Europe will look like in four months 15 fuck 16 show me your fuel your page that's the real that's the real test of how much of a pervert that is. How do I do that? You click on the question mark. Go off of reels. Just click on the question mark. They're not the question mark. They're my magnifying glass thing. That. Turn that to the camera now. Quick, before you get to change it.

1:06:48Oh, disappointingly. What is it? Football stuff? I've got my husband's kink ruined our marriage. Okay, here we are. Now we're talking. I've got rating European cities. Top five gay and lesbian names. the top what are the top 5 gay and lesbian names a guy that goes around the world reviewing coffee oh uh top 5 gay and lesbian names yeah

1:07:20shall we just shall we try and think of one no I'm not touching this hang on I'm gonna try and think of a the only way this ends up well is if number 1 Stevie and even though it's like... No, because we're playing with fire because this woman's doing it, so it's on her, right? But if you... You write a sitcom, you're casting a lesbian. The lesbian is a butch lesbian. What you calling her? Liz. A male. It's just close to Les, isn't it? Why don't you call it Leslie then? Yeah. It's my mum's middle name. It feels wrong. All of this feels wrong. I'm going Ronnie What? For a girl Ronnie If you're a man Called any of these Or are you a woman Called any of these You are probably gay And if you're not After this video You might be Number one In the lesbian names Is Jess or Jessica If that's your name You're definitely a lesbian What?

1:08:17Why is this in your No it's not what I like It just comes up Look He knows what you like Five weird things To do after you die Sorry I really want to know the rest Because we can't just leave Jessica On the way just scroll to the end of it Chris is a gay name apparently Christopher's a gay name she doesn't even put the list on the screen so you can't just scroll through yeah you can't poor content there yeah she's shit yeah fuck her off so Edinburgh Castle or Vin City that was such bad pod in that yeah it was yeah awful I'd be way more impressed mad so disrespectful to the viewers yeah I've seen Edinburgh Castle it's very impressive but I think we're quite fortunate in the UK to see castles quite often.

1:08:58A lot of places go to the castle. It's one of the most impressive, but because I've seen things like that often, I'd be way more impressed going to the Forbidden City. I'd be like, fuck it, I was surprised. The fact is called the Forbidden City. Yeah, great name as well. I want to go to Edinburgh for Christmas, so I'm going to say Edinburgh Castle. I'm going Forbidden City. Come on, Scotland boy. Yeah, I love... Come on, Scotland boy. Love it, but... Put your tartan goggles on. I'm going to have to go Forbidden City. Fucking prick. Wow. Big lad. Big lad. Yeah. Scottish out in the first round again.

1:09:32Yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't be right if we went through. You've been grouped again. Yeah. Right, number, Stevie, number. Ooh, I will go seven. Seven, and I will go nine, Robbie, please. Okay. Good. Ooh, this is a local derby. The Eiffel Tower versus the Tower of London. Ooh, what a rivalry. Two towers. One big, one small. Is that a local derby? they're close to each other and they're both towers it's a tower derby tower derby yeah well I've famously said on this podcast when I went to the Eiffel Tower I looked down and thought big bit of metal don't care that's wank didn't really get it yeah it's not that big however I did not actually go to the bit everyone's meant to go to what how can you go to the Eiffel Tower and not go to the bit because out the front of the Eiffel Tower there's done this lovely lawn and it looks all nice I came from behind it where it's just all buildings and shit but it looks the same as a thing but everything looking going up to it looked shit so that probably gave my opinion to be a bit worse paris is shit mate i think paris is one of the worst places paris is shit i thought paris is shit i still think it is then i went with someone who lives in paris and took me to places they're good and like paris is fucking brilliant i was in paris a couple of days ago paris is class not for me not for me for me tower of london wins hands down why what's the good things about london sick don't it and people used to get beheaded there and that yeah that wins is that good it's got a good history to it isn't it like I am not educated we're probably pissing I'm pissing so many people off but I'm not educated enough to know what the history of the Eiffel Tower is it's just the tourists no one's ever done anything there have they?

1:11:09don't think so people just get engaged there don't they Tower of London had a purpose didn't it? yeah did we do something where someone died jumping off the Eiffel trying to fly off of it yeah actually that was good not good that he died but that's it's interesting it's interesting that is the story behind it the photos or something or video or something. He tried to create, there's a video of it, you just need to hit the floor. Yeah. He tried to create his own parachute coat. The Eiffel Tower looks just like steel scaffold. And the Tower of London looks like beautifully arsed. It's exciting though.

1:11:35Like when Becky and I would film that video in Paris, she said they'd go, oh, it's the Eiffel Tower really exciting. Then you tell that you can see the Eiffel Tower from everywhere so it lost a bit of the magic. It's bigger than the Tower of London. And I like when it It's taller. Flashes up with lights and shit. It's quite cool. Yeah, but they're dicks about that because they're like they'll like tell they'll like do copyright claims for the art or stuff like that and things like it like people aren't allowed to take photos or films or something of it oh because of the like because of the light show or something like that it's weird shit fucking Tower of London yeah Tower of London yeah we literally did a rant about how much we hate French people a few episodes back and now we're doing this okay I'm gonna go shall I tell you what's left yeah 5, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14 8 8 versus 13 please Robbie Okay.

1:12:21Jack's lucky number. It's another, well, it's the CN Tower in Toronto. Okay, yeah. Versus the Palace of Versailles, again in Paris, too in Paris. Palace of Versailles. I don't know what it looks like. Paris of Versailles is, I think, it might be the second most visitor tourist attraction in the world. It's definitely top. I've never even heard of it. It's a big palace. Palace, I'm looking at it now. Can you see it? It is sick. I've never been. It looks like Bath. Yeah, from the outside it does just look like. it's like bath the inside looks incredible yeah oh that's nice yeah what the maze and stuff yeah the maze-y sort of lawn huge gardens yeah the gardens look nice the building looks meh it does look good and what's this tower in CN Tower oh yeah I've seen that CN Tower did you go up it when you were in Toronto Jay?

1:13:12no I didn't go up it mate it's good that there's a glass floor that you can walk on it feels like whoa what's the point in it? big tower mate okay don't they have something like that in Seattle as well yeah I think there was a time when the CN Tower was the biggest thing in the world again it's like Empire State has it had its day yeah yeah that's the Seattle Sky Needle which looks a bit like the CN Tower a lot like that actually yeah but it's nowhere near as big if I was to go to one of those I think I'd be able to spend more time at the French one I'm going that one Robbie just because I think if I vote for the CN Tower I think it's weird because it's not too dissimilar to the Eiffel Tower.

1:13:50It's just a long thing. I'm thinking of it this way, Jack. Yeah, much bigger. Eiffel Tower's like... If Jack wants to go to the top of that, lift. Yeah. You'll get a lift. Most of these are. I've been up the Burj Khalifa. That's in a lift. Do you know what? I'm not actually that scared of them lifts, weirdly, because they're often glass, so you can see out. Isn't that worse? Nah, not at all. I'm not scared of heights. Oh, I was in a lift you fucking hated the other day. Go on. Really? Like one of those really old narrow ones where you have to pull the door open, and it's really tight. Where was that?

1:14:18in an apartment in Turin. No, I wouldn't have liked that at all. I didn't think at the time about Jack and Ake there. Yeah, you should have seen the video. We're going Palace of Versailles. Versailles. Yeah, okay. And then last... So we've got 5, 10, 12 and 14. I'll go 10. Versus 12. Okay, so we've got the Kremlin versus Machu Picchu in Peru. Oh, this is somewhere I want to go. Kremlin. I really want to go Machu Picchu. Yeah. Have you been? No. Would you go? Yes. Okay, let's go. We're just not going to do that, are we? Probably not. We're going to go to a pub in Norwich. Machu Picchu does look very cool.

1:15:02And even when... Kremlin looks cool. I know Russia's not in favour currently. But Kremlin's class building. It is tourist attractions. Not too sure Kremlin's going to win that one. The Kremlin makes me feel sad when I look at it. Go on. I don't know. I get it. Do you? Yeah. I don't know. I just think it's like, it could be such a great thing, but it's just, I don't know. It just, it makes me feel like when you go back to like an old theme park when you were a kid, but the rides are tiny. Like you think they're big when you're, it just gives me a sort of weird sort of like, you know, sometimes nostalgia can be good, but sometimes bad.

1:15:46Like if I go to Yarmouth and I see the snails, I go, shit, no, yeah. And that's how that makes me feel. Weird. Okay, you get nostalgia for the Kremlin. Every year, Bev and Arlo go, and the snails never, we've got a fridge magnet, we've got a fridge magnet for all the different years. Right. See, that's cute, and I used to go on them, but I just see them now. Maybe Arlo will be like that in the future. What don't you like about the Kremlin? Never thought I'd ask that. You know, the last bit was bad, Pottig. We're in a golden era of it now. What do I like about the Kremlin? I like the Kremlin. I think it does have a sort of certain slightly, like, oppressive feel to it, isn't it?

1:16:23It's a bit like the whole sort of communism sort of slightly... It's like when travel vloggers go to North Korea and they film and it's just like... They're like, that's so cool. Is it? Because everyone else is living a horrible life and they're trying to make out. I was going to say we can't not let one of the wonders of the world win, but we quite literally did for the pyramids, didn't we? Yeah, but I'm going Machu Picchu. I'd go Machu Picchu. I think it's a nightmare to get to, though, isn't it? I watched Russ Cook do a video on it. Yeah, I think it's tough to get to. Yeah. It's tough to get to the Kremlin currently.

1:16:52Yeah, true. Does that make it worth it, though? Yeah, I think it would be worth it, because I think the juice is worth the squeeze with that. It's a once-in-a-lifetime thing, isn't it? I think it's as old as you think Machu Picchu. How old is Machu Picchu? How old is Machu Picchu? It is 600 years old. Yeah. Not that old. Not that old. Because I've been to Chichen Itza in Mexico, the Mayan ruins, and that's like 2000 BC, that's crazy yeah 600's not that like they were probably just finishing that when you were born yeah yeah that's it yeah because I remember it okay last one because I think Machu Picchu's getting a clean sweep is it there yeah Machu Picchu's winning that one so the last we've got 5 and 13 Steve you pick the home team no Jack said 13 a minute ago yeah 5 and 14 sorry I'm going to go 14 okay so at home is the Coliseum up against the Great Wall of China oh two big boys two big dogs two very big dogs oh my instinct i want to go coliseum i think well jack jack like the beheadings in the tower of london there's a lot of death in the coliseum love the battles in the coliseum i think wall is wall where you can see the space they always said that that's fucking impressive that is cool but it is also just a wall big wall though man yeah big wall but like man-made trump wanted to make a big wall it's a man-made wall it's man-made what what opposed to what the natural how many natural walls are well we don't know if the pyramids are made do we i don't think they just appeared could have been allans could have been the vaccine

1:18:29i naturally want to go coliseum i think i think you'd feel something inside the coliseum like with all the history of it and then on the wall i'd be like i'm just walking along a wall Can I ask a question? Because I don't know much about the Roman Empire and shit. Like, when this was going on and people were killing each other, was it celebrated or was it like, oh, we shouldn't be doing this? No, they were loving it. They were loving it. Yeah, it didn't take me. Go along, get another Colosseum, mate. Ah, look at that Christian getting eaten by a lion, class. Was it poor people that would fight or what?

1:18:59I think they would get Christians in to fight lions and shit. Which is not. I'm not endorsing. Yeah. Don't think we should do that. again woke wouldn't they also get like people who just thought there were class in there I think there were lots of things going on weren't there like gladiators who were like training up because what I'm trying to work out is it two willing participants that are trying to not always no the lions weren't going to be willing it's problematic now yeah a lot of these things were I think pyramids were probably bad little Britain was great at the time never really liked it I see your point yeah but Coliseum is Rome's little Britain.

1:19:42Yeah. Coliseum same as the soccerette. Not aged well. If we lived in the time we would have loved watching it and hoped we were never involved. Yeah. But there's still places in the world where people go along and watch executions. It's boxing. We have boxing now, don't we? That's the modern day Coliseum. People go and see people in Saudi Arabia will go watch executions Jack and Steve not for me imagine that fuck it up Jesus I'm gonna go Coliseum Coliseum I think ignoring all the morality behind it it's pretty cool yeah enough times passed for us to go wow yeah if we went now when they stop though how long there you go there's another Google for you well I reckon but I've been long gone in it.

1:20:32I reckon... Go on. 200 AD. 100 AD. 100 AD I'm going to go. What are you saying? When was the last time the Coliseum was used for killing? When did the Coliseum stop fighting? Oh, 404 AD. Yeah, it's cool as fuck. Yeah. We're good. Okay, play on. Right. Sorry, wall. So, in order of... We'll just go down in order of when we did them for the next round, please, Jack. First two against each other. Okay, so do you want to... Would you like to read them? I can read them if you want, mate. Yeah, I don't mind. Ignore my spelling because I can't be bothered. It doesn't matter. I won't even mention the spelling, depending on how bad they are.

1:21:08Right. So it's the ones in brackets that won. Okay. Confusing, right? Okay. Empire State Building versus Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich. I'd love to sit here and do the bit and say Raw, but it has to be Empire State Building. however does it though I said first round I went and saw the Empire State Building I had a better I literally looked at it and went cool walked away Raw Dinosaur Park spent hours there and I've been multiple times once again if you have the choice of going to Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park or a photo of 7-Eleven my kids are picking Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park are they?

1:21:46and they didn't pick that for the Empire State Building I'd go Raw I'll have a better time at Raw I am surprised how well Raw Dinosaur Adventure Park is but I'm going Raw yeah I also kind of like every now and then you see a van just drive a lorry driving around Norwich and it has a dinosaur on the back. Yeah. Because it's going there. Raw. Raw. Okay. We're raw dogging it. Good. Sydney Opera House versus The Forbidden City. Ooh. Don't care. Not an option. What? Why do you don't care? Two I'm like meh about. I'm going to Australia. I'm not that bothered about the Opera House. I think you have to see it though.

1:22:22I'll see it. I'd love to see Sydney Opera House. Yeah, I think Sydney Opera House, I can picture having a great time in and around it. And I think with the Forbidden City, I'd specifically want to go and see that and then not care too much beyond that. And also, again, we're saying it's the big dog of the modern world. I'm going to Sydney Opera House. I'm going to Sydney Opera House. Forbidden City in the mud. Yeah, I'll take it. I googled Forbidden City, didn't rate it that much. Okay. Tower of London versus Palace of Versailles. You've given up halfway through and just done dots. Versailles.

1:22:54Yeah. Versailles. okay Tower of Versailles versus Tower of London Tower of London I like the history of it I like the fact that it was a bit gruesome a little bit too big yeah we're happy with a bit of yeah murder murder back in the day Palace of Versailles I think I'd enjoy my time more at the palace like the gardens and stuff look lovely to walk through yeah I mean it's hard to say because I've been to Tower of London but I've not been to Palace of Versailles if you've never been to London and you're going as a first time viewer you're gonna really think it's sick you're gonna go wow the grounds are cool the tower the bridge There's a pub in the Tower of London that we can't go to.

1:23:27Only the beef eater guys can go to. Really? Yeah. That's class, isn't it? Yeah, that's a video, isn't it? Well, you can get taken along. If I can make friends with her. If you're a beef eater and want to take me to your pub, I'd like to go to your pub. Mental, they're called beef eaters. Imagine if you're a vegetarian and a beef eater. You'd never stop talking about it, would you? Big vegetarian.

1:23:52I'll go Tower of London if that's the way you're swaying Tower of London then yeah because of the pub Machu Picchu I said I wouldn't mention the spelling but Christ he's made it one word versus the Coliseum oh this is a big clash this this is an early clash this is Japan-Brazil Coliseum much older yeah Machu Picchu's disappointingly youthful which didn't count against Sydney Opera House It's in this no man's land of age. For that reason. But you expect it with Sydney Opera House because it's kind of like an architectural marvel. If you tell me Sydney Opera House was made last year, I'd go, believe it.

1:24:28Yeah, exactly. But with Machu Picchu, it looks so old. But the fact that it's not actually does mark it down a bit. I think I'd go Coliseum. Are you not entertained? Coliseum wins. Yeah. And yeah. So, semis. So, semis. Dinosaur Adventure Park versus Sydney Opera House. Okay, this is the closest I think we're going to get. Like I love Dinosaur Adventure Park. I can't load it again. No, I think Sydney has to win this one. Sydney. It looks so class. I mean, Dinosaur Adventure House, it's got good stuff in it. So Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich has got lots of good stuff in it. But Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich isn't that great when you approach it.

1:25:09When you're walking up to Sydney Opera House, you're going, fucking hell, that's Sydney Opera House. You're not going to go, fucking hell, that's Royal Dinosaur Adventure Park in Norwich. That's true. If you went up to a random American and went, I'm going to give you an all expenses paid holiday. You can pick between these. I'm sending you to Norwich to go to Raw Dinosaur Park or Australia to see Sydney Opera House. Yeah, but they also got guns and shoot each other. You can't trust them. Yeah. If you go to... If you ask a Canadian... Yeah. Oh, yeah, let's go Sydney Opera House. Sydney, yeah. Sorry, Raw Dinosaur Park.

1:25:35Sorry, Raw. Adventure Park in Norwich. That's our brand deal ruined. Tower of London versus the Coliseum. Oh, there we go. You've got your history in both of these, Jack. This is brutal history versus brutal history. Yeah, brutal history derby. Horrible history. Murder derby. Coliseum for me, mate. I think where else in the world had something like that? Do you know what? They're killing people in the Tower of London, but they're not doing it for fun. No, they're criminals. Coliseum, they're just going, let's fucking get that. I don't agree with that guy's religion. Let's throw a fucking line at him.

1:26:05Not instant death either there. You're watching full entertainment. And then they're doing that thing, the bit where they've got their thumb, oh, do we rescue him? Yeah, we like him. Really? They do that thing, wouldn't they? They'd have a thumb and they'd be like, oh, are they going to save that guy? Are they going to let him die? They go, he fought well. Thumbs up, yeah. Or thumbs down, he gets killed. Whoa. Really? Yeah. Caesar had his little weird glasses as well. Don't you know, that was cool. I had to bring opticians. Is that the boat that invented the salad? Yeah. Yeah. No salads before then.

1:26:34People just look at Lettas and go, what do we do? Yeah, Coliseum. Coliseum, we have our final. Okay. So sad it's not Dinosaur Adventure Park versus Coliseum, but we've got Sydney Opera House versus the Coliseum. I think there's one clear winner. You know which way I'm going. I think Coliseum. I think the age wins it. Think of it this way. One's 404 BC, Theatre of Warriors and Champions and Death. The other one's cinema. I think Janine saw the vaccines at Sydney Opera House. She's never seen them at the Coliseum. You can't. if the vaccines are played, you can't... Nothing against... It was a while ago.

1:27:15Yeah, nothing against... Nothing against the vaccines, but we can't have a tourist attraction win where the vaccines can play them. Yeah, we saw... The vaccines... They're good. They've got some good songs lately. We just saw the vaccines at Truck, but I couldn't... And they were actually my favourite act of the weekend. But I wouldn't want to go watch them at the Coliseum. I'd watch anything in the Coliseum. I'd just be in the Coliseum. You'd say the vaccines would play the Coliseum. I'd watch fucking Passenger in the Coliseum. Wow. you love passenger staring at the bottom of your ass I'm saying I'd walk passenger that's how much you like him I'd go I'm going to see him yeah it's got to be I think isn't it yeah just the fun shit they go up to like it's not it's not what we do now no but it would have been classed if at the time if you block out the moral issues yeah you go fuck it I've ripped that dude's head off unless you're the one there who's a famous Christian let's put it in the modern world Jesus modern day Joe Weller Joe Weller be a lion I'd pay for it I'd pay to see that I'd want Joe to win yeah oh yeah I don't want Joe to die but I want to see him batter the fuck out of a lion yeah and he's good at wrestling yeah so there we go headlock bang right we've massively overrun because we haven't got time for yours have we no we haven't got time save it next week yeah we'll do we'll do another World Cup with everything very very soon so if you're not enjoying this it's now gone from eight to seven that we've done so far so the two winners of today's episode is Robbie's tourists attraction the best one in the world is the Coliseum and Steve you did board games and the best board game in the world is Trivial Pursuit yeah Trivial Pursuit versus the Coliseum the fact that I've forgotten already yeah and the questions in Trivial Pursuit are normally older than the Coliseum this is true this is true good finishing line there thank you this is Jack Maite's Happy Hour Podcast with me Jack Maite Stevie White and Robbie Knox see you in a bit

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