From Love Island To Downing Street: How Georgia Harrison Reinvented Her Career

32:13Well, it's just really damaging, isn't it? So you're already putting people like you off almost, you said. 100%. You know, we're seeing MPs get attacked. We're seeing people's social media. It definitely would make me think, oh, maybe I should be more careful who I interview because I'm going to get this really negative reaction if I interview certain people, but I never think that that should be an issue. Like people, you know, presenters, journalists, they shouldn't feel like they can't give someone a stage because of other people's opinions. Yeah, completely. And into this world of sort of politics and Westminster and the elite, you kind of rode this horse into and you end up at the Palace receiving an MBE from Prince William.

32:56Prince William. What was it like receiving the news? receiving the news I was going to get an MBE just didn't even feel real. It didn't come to me. It went to my agent's office. And at first, I think he thought he got an MBE. And then he sent me a picture of it. And I was just overwhelmed, you know. It's something that is such... It's a lifelong achievement. And I'm very, very young to receive it, you know, in my opinion. And I couldn't believe it. And actually going into the palace, I was so pregnant. I was so nervous. I felt, like, really out of place. Like, I'm such a clumsy person as well.

33:30I didn't want to touch anything. And you get really clear instructions, right? They sit you down and they tell you like four times what you have to do when you get there, when you approach him. And you see like one person go in front of you and they go off and they do their thing. And in front of me was three men. So the men, I think, nod their head, but the women curtsy. So I never saw anyone curtsy. And also when you first get there, I'm pretty sure you're meant to say your highness, but I've got serious ADHD. So when I'm getting these instructions, I've got like, you know, the Queen Jewels over there or whatever, all these beautiful like palace things.

34:04There's people running around. I'm just not taking it in. So not only did I approach him and when I done the curtsy, it was the most fear, like theoretical curtsy you've ever seen. I almost fell forward and he started cracking up. I then went forward to him and I swear I've never said this before. I just didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. And so I looked at him and he looked at me and you're meant to say your highness. I didn't say anything. I must have forgotten. He just went, hello. And then he just started talking about what I was there for, what I was receiving the award for. But there was a good 10 second pause of like, I don't know, yeah.

34:40I just completely flopped it all. But he spoke to me for at least three to five minutes. He had so much time. He said he'd watched what happened to me during the time on the news. And it was a story him and his family had followed. And he thought it was really inspirational what I'd done. And then he also gave me a really long time to talk about what I thought should change in society. And once I'd got over the embarrassment of the curtsy, I managed to tell him all of the things I thought needed to change. So it was an amazing opportunity. And receiving the MBE has definitely given me more credibility in what I do.

35:13And I'll be forever grateful for that. And how do we tackle the manosphere? Because that's at the kind of like core of it, right? Yes, there's the distribution methods and so on for technology companies, but actually it's still somebody, it's A, they're sort of taking of images, but then choosing to kind of distribute them and so on. How do we tackle that side of it? It's a good question. So I think the manosphere needs to be tackled in three ways. First of all, it needs to be a culture change. People need to look at the manosphere and go, oh, that's terrible, we don't want to get involved in that.

35:50and that needs to be done through education within schools so young boys understand when they are getting manipulated down this road, when they are viewing content that is based around the manosphere. You know, you look at Andrew Tate, he's pretty much the face of the manosphere. He's now in prison for some terrible charges. There's so many young men that looked up to him because they were pulled in through this without having education on what to look out for. Then you need better policing in general so when victims are coming forward, they feel like they're being taken seriously and they're not waiting for ages to go through court processes.

36:23And then I just think government need to implement things better. Do you know what? Not government. I think we need to influence social media companies to do better. They need to stop giving so much power to these algorithms. Like, I was reading a book the other day about the porn industry and they basically had a person sign up and pretend to be a young 14-year-old boy. They didn't react to anything. They didn't interact with any content. And within minutes, they were being given manosphere content and it got worse and worse being aggressive towards women and behind all of it is a funnel. There's money going into all of it, whether it's the fake trading, whether it's the porn industry.

36:59Like the recent incident I had with my ex-partner, he was basically starting quite a big hate campaign and doing a lot of rage baiting about me when he shouldn't have. And if you looked at it, it would look like it was just to be aggressive towards me, right? But if you then go through onto his page, There's links that take you to his porn website, and all of it is driving traffic. So the manosphere, all of this rage-baiting, all of it goes back to them making money, and we need to change the culture of that where people see it for what it is. It's a bunch of losers manipulating young men who don't know any better to think badly about women, to feel anger within them, because a negative emotion obviously goes faster on social media than a positive one.

37:43Then they use them as traffic, and they make money out of them. Yeah, they use them as traffic. They use them as traffic and it's changing the culture. It's changing the culture. Talk to us and perhaps almost think of the older generations in mind about how the kind of influencer creator economy works, right? Like obviously I've dipped my toes into it a tiny amount, but you're at a completely different scale of it. because I think still in Westminster, it's not taken as seriously as a job and it clearly is now as an industry. So talk us through the economics of how that side of it works. So it's all about attention, isn't it?

38:24It's all about what can you put out there as a creator to try and get someone's attention to make them buy into you as a person, to make them stop scrolling. So when I first went on Love Island, I was only on there for about two weeks. So I was on there for a lot less time than some of the other people on my show. And I came out with less followers. But when I came out, I was like, I'm going to really hammer this. Like, I'm going to try my best to be a creator and to put out loads of content. And this is one thing I always get told. Well, I've been told over the years, people will comment and say, why don't you get a real job?

38:57I think what people from an older generation may not understand that being a creator is a real job. So I'll give Instagram as an example. You now have videos on Instagram and you also have photo carousels on Instagram. You have songs that are trending and then you also have trends, which is where multiple people are doing videos, doing the same thing, whether it's a dance, whether it's just got sort of like the same layout. So I done one trend, for instance, when I was pregnant and the trend was people were just saying, I'm something, of course I'm going to do this. So mine was, I'm pregnant, of course I'm going to get my new pram.

39:35I'm pregnant, of course I'm getting it from oyster strollers. I'm pregnant, of course I'm going for the green one. So I used that trend to sell that pram and it went absolutely viral, that video. But if I hadn't done the I'm pregnant, it wouldn't have gone viral. So to be an influencer now, you have to understand what is trending because things that are trending, songs that are trending, the way that you put text over your photos that are trending, that is how you grow on social media. So I often listen to lots of social media podcasts. I will go onto YouTube and study algorithm changes. It isn't just taking like a simple photo and being like, hopefully this will work well.

40:15You have to study what is trending in the algorithm now and then try and implement that over your niche. But at the same time, it's also very good to just do talking to the camera videos, which Andy Burnham's doing really well now. And one tip I will give you for if you are, you know, no matter how old you are, trying to leverage social media, whether that be for yourself or for your company, it is very very helpful to address an individual rather than be like you know hey guys or hi everyone like if you can talk directly to that one person who is taking in your content it's a lot more personable but social media doesn't just come down to posting the content you it takes hours to research what's trending it then takes hours to think of the concept that you're going to do then you have to actually capture all of that content then you have to edit it all then you also have to post it i post across four different platforms at the moment so snapchat tiktok instagram and linkedin we should we should talk about linkedin linkedin which i'm now trying to get my foot into the door and i've really seen the power of um but yeah there's a lot of time that goes into it and if you want to do it you have to show up all the time and i think i also have a lot of pressure in my everyday life like sometimes i'll be like i've not posted in three days and I need to put something out authentic because for any brand any person doing social media you cannot just post ads, you cannot just post your brand, you need to also be posting something that shows the character of your brand, what it stands for and something that isn't trying to sell to people because if you're constantly selling people will not follow you and they'll swipe straight past Interesting, what was the first brand deal you did, can you remember?

41:57It would have been like for clothes or something like that probably with like Motel Rock selling like sparkly skirts. And back in the day, like when I first started doing social media, it was just picturing the skirt, bosh, good luck. And it wasn't that competitive. It always done well. And the algorithm worked on time. So if you posted at seven, everyone would see your post at like seven. There wasn't a continuation of like content. Yeah, it was easy. I could post my big toe and I'd probably get like 3 ,000 likes on it. Genuinely. can you remember what you were kind of paid for for those first deals I think my first big like collaboration would have been like£30 ,000 with someone called La Sula Boutique and that was for like a few posts and then I guess like yeah a grand something like that when you just come out of Love Island you would have got a bit more but like I said I was at the lower end but I think I worked my way up as an influencer after yes yeah yeah so you went that way around and what's like the biggest deal that you've done oh the biggest deal that i've done will probably be one of my campaigns i've done a massive consent campaign with super drug and they paid me a lot of money to do that and so what did that campaign involve so it involved me talking about consent to young people and it was about putting you before yes so it was about thinking about what you really want before you say yes to what they really want and i had to do a video reading out some of the stuff that i'd had on social media that was offensive and talking about that and then talking about certain situations where young people you know might get themselves into a situation with a partner where they've agreed to one thing but then suddenly they find themselves doing things they don't feel comfortable with because they want to appease that person and then they also played um like podcast clips throughout every store in superdrug and i had to hold like protest signs outside the superdrug store and do pat pictures for that that's interesting and why did superdrug want to do that then what was the logic and who approaches who in that scenario they approached my agent because they wanted to really concentrate on helping younger women understand consent i think a lot of their consumers are younger women and they've done some polls and they found that a lot of young women didn't understand that they had the right to say no to certain things even though they'd engaged in other things yeah and they thought that that was really harrowing so they thought that i'd be the right person to speak to young people i think obviously because of what i'd experienced it's important but also because I'm well I was younger then but I'm sort of on the younger end where I understand how to communicate with young people I was a good person for that yeah no no I can uh I can see that what are some of the other what are some of your other favorite ones you've worked on I can see you're quite passionate about that one yeah eBay I've worked with it's not so much for the greater good but I've done some massive campaigns for them over the years and I love eBay I think it's really important to be able to keep reusing your stuff to be able to sell stuff to not go too into fast fashion and still have the ability to you know change a style all the time whilst not affecting the environment that was one of the things i know so going through your instagram earlier and having the team sort of have the mickey taken out of me saying my algorithm not going to be ruined but it's going to be different what it is what it was this morning there's less business and football and politics now uh sprinkle of celebrity in it but um was that how you're wearing something different in basically every single one was one of my big kind of reflections right how much pressure is there on that side of it oh no i think that's just because i'm scatty and like i'll go to do honestly dressing myself is so terrible so obviously if i've got like a really important government event i'm i'm gonna wear like a suit or whatever so that's why i'm gonna be dressed like that yeah um then if i'm going to a big red carpet event i'll pay a stylist so they'll make sure i look really good if i'm just doing like a quick like few relatable videos or i'm out in the day I'll just grab whatever I can from the wardrobe and it will always be like nowhere near as good as what they dress me in so it means that everything's very different but I also don't ever want to feel like because I'm a campaigner because I'm working in government I change who I am and my complete style because then I will lose touch with my followers because I've built I think I've built a lot on comedy actually with my followers and relatability content yes I can I can see that Let's just go back to that.

46:16Stylist is quite a cool job, right? How did you find that? How does that work? Just give us... Well, the good ones are really bloody expensive. You have to pay around£2 ,000. The lowest end you can get for what we do is about£500, depending on what it is. If it's red carpet, it's always going to be more. But they'll almost always get you a dress that's worth like 10 times what you pay. And they'll get it lent. So I don't know how it works if you're not like a celebrity or, you know, Z-lister like me, whatever you want to call it. But when it's me, they'll speak to brands for like months and they'll find a really good fashion brand to lend me the dress for the night.

46:55They'll dress me, they'll take the dress in, they'll then find jewellery that can be like real diamonds, they'll get a bag, they'll get shoes, and they'll send a seamstress down to get me ready for the night. And, you know, when you're going to these big events, you're never going to wear the dress again, are you? Who's going to wear like a floor-length... Yeah, yeah. like glitter ball dress anywhere ever again so it does make more sense to pay a stylist and it means that you don't have to buy a new house and a new wardrobe to find somewhere to store it all because i'm a hoarder as it is um what an amazing so what type of events would you be wearing that's getting a stylist for this is a whole part of the economy i did not know about so like the baftas uh the ntas the pride of britain but actually now if i go to downing street i'll sometimes get a stylist.

47:40I might be doing a speech to the Labour Party conference. I'm going to get a stylist for that because style is a big part of your image, right? And it's actually quite, quite important. And I also think in terms of content, if you look good, even if someone isn't engaged in like the campaigning side or what I'm saying politically, they will engage with the content because they'll be like, where's the jacket from? Where's the dress from? That looks amazing. So I've noticed recently that it is important to invest some of my money into styling and also to find like a really cool edgy outfit that's also appropriate for something like the Labour Party conference would probably take me like three to four hours like it's just not my niche like sitting there going through all of these clothes figuring them all out so if I pay a stylist to do it for me I've then gained like four hours of my life and they'll probably do it a lot better and they might even get something really expensive for me to wear for the day that I can then give back.

48:32Yeah. And also, I suppose when you're going to a completely new style of event, you don't necessarily know the rules, right? So they will also just be more experienced than that. Yeah, once you've mudged yourself off a few times, you learn, don't you? And one thing that I've always been like within social media and I think is so important, but anything in life, like you just have to do things and not worry if you like mess it up. Like I'm just one of them people that have always been like, I'm going to give it my best shot. and I actually don't care if I embarrass myself. I don't care if I fail.

49:02Like if I put a post out there and it fails, I don't like refresh it and go, oh, I'm not good at my job. I'm not going to post anymore. I go, right, I'm going to go look at the algorithm. I'm going to look what other people are doing. I'm going to post four more times this week and I'm going to get it right because it's adapting to whatever is changing within your niche, within whatever business you're doing. And there's been things where I've embarrassed myself. I've had like jobs where I have to do like a fitness instruction video, right? You know, like the proper old school, where you would watch people do the fitness stuff on television.

49:32And I just said yes, when I have no experience in being a PT or whatever, and I thought we'd be fine. And I turned up, and I was so embarrassing. You was having to, like, hold a kettlebell on one leg whilst reading off a teleprompter and looking at the camera and look hot and cool at the same time. I was so bad that they sent me home early. I went back to my Premier League, wrapped a towel around my head and cried for about an hour. But it's never changed the way that I look at things. Like, I remember asking to... Once my friends in LA were like, oh, there's this comedy thing where you could do an interview for and it might go somewhere.

50:02I turned up and it was a puppet thing. You have to have a puppet and you have to like be a puppeteer. But I wasn't a puppeteer, but I still did it. Like I got there, I put the puppet on my hands and I just sung Hey Baby. Again, really embarrassed myself, but it was a story to tell. But on the flip side of that, I've walked into Downing Street and I've managed to, you know, change the law, meet people within politics that have helped do so much. I walked into Love Island, could have easily embarrassed myself, could have been like, do you know what, I might fart on national television, I'm not going to bother doing it.

50:32I didn't. I walked through the doors, held my bum whole time and went for it. I've always just been like, let's just do it and see what happens. Even your podcast, I'm probably very different to a lot of the people you had on. Last week you had the Prime Millistar, now you've got me here, I've already sworn twice. But I just say yeah, and I try my best. And if you just go for things in life, and you're not afraid to fail, and you're just a good person and you try your best things are going to expand for you and i think with what i do in content creating that's what's very important just like don't get if if a video doesn't do well if the views are low no one saw it no one saw it so no one's judging you because they didn't see it just keep going yeah i i always think that's that's true um particularly i'm posting more i'll be interested in your reflection on this because it was one of the areas where we first came across each other but was linkedin um what's your thinking behind joining that platform prime minister's joined it recently as well like why so for ages my agent's been like you need to do linkedin i want to set call up with you in linkedin linkedin isn't that and i'm like i literally can't cope with another platform because i'm already doing a lot where i'm having to adjust to different platforms and what they want from me and i'm only one person even though i have hired some people to help you know a lot of these social media teams are really expensive aren't they and it's like not they cost more than what i earn so like the fear of having to deal with another platform really was putting me off for a long time and then i started working with a company called strand partners who are amazing and they do a lot of uh yeah they think that linkedin are fabulous and i was like you know what i'm gonna give it a go so i started posting on linkedin obviously I haven't been hammering it.

52:15I've only done a few posts but they're a lot more niche posts. They're about like the speeches that I do. They're about my government work. They're about any law changes that I'm hoping to come up. I've done a, I've got something with The Economist coming out soon. That'll be a LinkedIn post. What I've noticed is one, people are very nice over there. They are. They're very friendly. They're just so not aggressive. It's because there's no, well part of it is no bots and you can't hide. Is that what it is? Well I just think Like, you've got your name and you've got your company. You know, you can't go and call some of the people that are using the names on our Keir Starmer posts.

52:53Companies aren't going to like that. Well, that's what I mean. I've done the Keir Starmer post on LinkedIn, Instagram and TikTok. TikTok were okay. Instagram thought they were going to burn my house down. And then LinkedIn, they were all quite friendly. There might have been one that contended, you know, his opinions, but there was nothing that was, like, aggressive. but the amount of work already that has come through my inbox from LinkedIn has blown me away. I feel like shutting down all the other platforms and just sticking over there. Seriously, in terms of policy, doing speeches about government change, coming to roundtables with MPs or people that are creating new AI to help intimate image abuse not be existent in the future.

53:36I've had so many requests come through there that are amazing. And, you know, I think anyone that's trying to grow their business or be, like, reputable in what they do should 100 % be running a LinkedIn. And I won't be shouting that on Instagram because I want to get ahead before them all come over and realize how good it is. I'm not going to let them know. There's not many people do it. There's not many, like, influencers who have, like, really amazing businesses. They haven't made that move yet. Grace Beverly has. Yeah. She's quite impressive. And I've seen her LinkedIn and it's amazing. but there's not many like strong business women over in Instagram yet who are realizing the power of LinkedIn.

54:12And I feel like it was like that with TikTok, to be honest. It took a while for people to give that a go, but it's always good to be like on the forefront of it. I just hope that it doesn't get to the point, like you said, where too many people are like, this is amazing, let's go over there and ruin it. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, I don't think it, at the moment, I think it's working well. And yeah, it's interesting because I think all the platforms got a challenge with AI and AI slop, right? Do you know what I like about it as well? You can put links on LinkedIn. Yeah. I can put a link in my post, not just on my story, on LinkedIn.

54:47Like a link to an article, a link to, you know, my company, a link to whatever. It's clickable. Yeah. I think it's partly because they're not, the model isn't the same as the other platforms in terms of the attention because actually it's the value of the people that are on the platform. that is the real kind of thing. They don't need you scrolling endlessly through LinkedIn because they're not doing pop-up ads in the same way that you get on Instagram, right? Like it's more where you're gonna place a job on there or whatever, right? Yeah. Interesting, interesting. So one thing that I wanted to talk to you about, we talked about motherhood earlier and the sort of experiences of becoming a mum and so on.

55:32Now, in conversations we've had before, you pay your mother to look after your baby. Oh, she'll be upset if you say that. No, it's not that I pay her to look after her. So the way that we've got to set up, me and my partner at home, is his parents both live in the Isle of Wight. My dad is usually back and forth from different countries. So my mum is the only person that can look after the baby. But she lives on her own with two dogs. And she also has like three jobs, I think, working as a PA from home. so when we're dumping the baby on her she's like having to do zoom calls in her living room like whilst she's got the baby so it's got to the point where if she's going to look after my child she has to give up work on certain days because obviously she gets paid for the days she works so it's a bit like how can I expect my mum to lose like 300 pounds and then also have to pay for my child all day whilst I'm out there making money it doesn't seem fair to me so on the days that she does look after the baby until we get her into nursery, I do give her the money that she would have made that day, yeah.

56:33You see, I can tell in my world this will provoke a really interesting debate because I think you're totally right, but I think there is a lot of also assumed with grandparents that they will do it and they will do it for, you know. Well, I think it's different if you're retired and I think it's also a lot easier if there's two of you, but if you're having to deal with two dogs and a baby and you've also got bills to pay, like how can you be expected to handle that yeah like i find it hard looking after my baby when i've got like emails come through and stuff and i also wouldn't want her to feel like she has to do both so i think the big thing with child care is like when i have my baby but i've got a lot of work coming through in the daytime it's like yeah you can do it when she's there but it's actually not fair on her because she deserves all of my attention and also my work deserves all of my attention so in the same situation there's no point in me taking her out of that situation so she gets more attention and then putting her in a situation where my mum's also doing emails or zoom calls it's like it's not going to work so yeah and I'd rather my mum do it and be able to afford to do it then pay some random woman that I found on the internet completely no no I think it makes makes um complete sense but it was something that stood me what did your parents do and what was your first job what was your first kind of like what was the first thing you did for money oh so i actually got like a city job um it was just like work experience and i ended up being a pa there but i'd done so many jobs before i got to this job and i didn't care like i worked on a construction site i was the only girl there i worked like in like a little cabin port-a-cabin thing and i had to wear a high-vis jacket and a helmet and everyone else was a man and I was just doing like spreadsheets or something like that but next to it was a sewage plant so it really stunk of poo so every time my mum dropped me off there she would cry because she would hate that I would come back smelling the poo and I'd just be like whatever it's experience and whilst I was there I'd still be like reading books about manifestation and applying for other jobs I was just like money's money I worked on a sausage stand at Chelsea football stadium I used to have to go around outside the stadium with like a thing around my net going, come and get your sausages.

58:48You can imagine what football watchers reply to come and get your sausages to a young girl. I've worked as a shop girl as well. I worked as a shop girl across London, which was actually really, really tough. And I'd have to get the night bus home every night. Oh, shop girl. Yeah, like selling shots. And then eventually I ended up working in a company called JDX Consulting. And I managed to blag my way in there. Like the only that was real on my CV was my name. And I was always just like, let's try and get the job, and then I'll figure it out when I was there. And this is before, like, chat GBT and everything that you had to help you get by, I would literally just blag the job, and then I'd be texting my mum for advice, or I would find out who's, like, what colleague's the easiest one to flirt with to teach me what I'm supposed to be doing and not grasp me up for not knowing.

59:39And I would literally just get by off, like, charisma, but the ability to adapt and learn once I was there. So I've done so many jobs before I got here, but I've never had any shame. Like, even if the job looked really embarrassing, I'd be like, whatever, let's go get the money and see who I meet whilst I'm there. And the Love Island incident led to you basically walking out of your previous office, right? Getting on there. Tell us about that. So they were actually really excited for me. So I went on as a bombshell. So you do the interview, you get told that you're going to be brought on, but then you get told not yet.

1:00:13so bombshells never know when they're going to go on to love island and i went in in the third series so love island was at its absolute peak during the time that i went in it just catapulted and when you're outside of it you can just see it building like when i would leave liverpool street station to go to my office i'd be getting hit in the head with like volley balls from love island that everyone's giving out of the station it was like hysteria and i went and told my boss I said, look, I've been accepted to go on Love Island. And he was so excited for me. He was like, this is going to be massive for you.

1:00:46And he would always come out to the desk and be like, have they called you yet? And I'd be like, shut up. Like, everyone's listening. Because, like, if you got called out for going on there, you get dropped immediately. So you have to be careful who you tell. And it didn't get, it got down to the last two weeks. And just before they called me to go on, they put in five girls. And the next day I was crying. I was like, they put five people in and not me. I was like, this is it. They're not going to call me on. So I stopped watching it. I stopped dieting. I was straight down to McDonald's. I was like, it's over.

1:01:19And I was all upset at my desk. And then I got a call at nine in the morning saying, can you be on a plane to New Yorker at 5pm? And I literally knocked on my boss's see-through door. I was like, they want me to go on now. And he was just like, go for it. He was so excited. And then we told a couple of people, because I was in there, and they were cheering me off. and as I just about opened the office door to leave, he was like, Georgia, one more thing. And I was like, yes? He's like, delete your LinkedIn, please. Okay. And I actually had 2 ,000 followers on LinkedIn then. I haven't built it back up since.

1:01:53But he was obviously scared that I was going to bring the reputation down of the company, which, you know, judging by my party ways back then, I'm not surprised. I literally, like, stuck my head in a fish tank on day three. So, yeah, I had to delete my LinkedIn, but they were very supportive. And I actually went back and worked for the office after I finished. And I tried to go back for like three months, but it just became like impossible. I was like getting my I was booking out like business rooms, pretending that other CEOs have meetings in there. And I was bringing my makeup girl into the meeting room and get my makeup done to go to an event.

1:02:28It was really cheeky. um that's such a lovely experience to hear about the boss supporting and going back and so on i think it's um it's great when people uh are like that and support people off on exciting new ventures can i just say about him as well he made me who i am and i bet like a lot of people listening to this might be leaders of companies who are hiring young people and he there was something very special about him where he liked hiring people that weren't necessarily like the normal fit for the job like he liked giving people chances and training them to be like the best version of themselves and that man definitely made me who i am as a person his saying was always can do and it was always like if he like says do it like he'll be like next week we're gonna do a talent show we're gonna have the whole company now i want 300 people go figure it out i'll be like i don't know if i've got time to do that he just go can do and he would have big events where they would host the whole company like 300 people you know sit down meals a bit like an award ceremony and he i remember he made me be the compare for the event and i had to host the whole event and i'd never done anything like that before and i was i don't think i can do it and it was just can do and because he gave me those opportunities as just like a random 19 year old pa who clearly didn't have that much experience in what she was doing he pushed me to be able to do the things i'm doing now do speeches at the a Labour Party conference, do serious public speaking, like even speak to you here.

1:03:57Like he really evolved me as a person and people like that have the ability to change people's lives. You don't have to be like a guru or the prime minister to be someone that someone thinks about for the rest of their life as, wow, you made me who I am today. And I will tell you now, that man made me who I am today. That is a lovely, touching story and almost one that we could finish on. But I just thought, as we were talking, maybe one final area we can discuss. Business and reality TV. We talked about the similarities between politics and reality TV. There's obviously Dragon's Den and Apprentice.

1:04:35Both have been around for 20 years. If you could design a new type of reality TV for business and entrepreneurship, what would it look like? I would get a load of different young people who want to get into social media and I would give them all tasks and each week it would be a different type of social media and they'd have to go into teams and they'd have to figure out who can make... Are you going to steal this? I'm joking. Who can make the best content? So it'll be a bit like Dragon's Den or a bit like The Apprentice. So you put them into teams. This week it's YouTube and we want to see who can make the best fitness video selling Gymshark.

1:05:17You've all got a week and you need to go off now, figure out what content you're going to make and whoever gets the most views or gets the most sales on that particular platform that week, the team wins and you bring them in a bit like The Apprentice. So next week, it's TikTok. The week after, it's Facebook Marketplace. The week after that, it's LinkedIn and they all have to see who can get the most viral views on their new business the quickest. So the business is already there. The product's already there. They just have to see who can be the best on each social media platform. I think would be quite cool because young people would watch it and they would learn how to leverage all of these platforms by seeing all of these teams do trial and error.

1:05:57And like you might, yeah, you might have like one team that just use a really clever hashtag and they got like a million views and then another team that didn't use that hashtag and therefore didn't. And I think that would be quite fun. Definitely. We should do it together. Yeah, we could do it together. and it would give you a lot of really good viral clips as well because all of that would be going out on social media too. Totally. Georgia, thanks so much for coming on. It's been amazing to get to know you over the last couple of months and see all the work you've done. I hope you and your family are really proud because what you've been through is horrific, but to be standing where you are with everything that you've achieved is really, really impressive.

1:06:34Thank you. I appreciate that.

1:06:41Thank you.