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25:20For 35 years, I never smoked. I smoked in front of his joint. I had security and everything with me. I thought I might run out butt naked. I smoked the shit, let him know we got the good stuff in Harlem, Dynasty Commodity. But you know what? I handled it this time. Good job. I'm thinking of getting hot. No, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. No, don't do that. Let me start you off. Slow. I'm not fucking with you. Let me start you off. I'm not fucking with you. You got the pure. Like if I tell people all the time, like I, you know, I'm social smoker, you know what I mean? I don't smoke like this. Very social.

25:53But the reason why is this nigga. So we, this is second season of Wilding Out, right? You know what I'm saying? And we had just had the first season. We did the first old school battle. Like that shit, it went super viral. So we meet up, we get ready, get ready to, you know, go back and kill a game again. So Lowe's like, man, the weed ain't coming, but I got some edibles. And I'm like, I bet I ain't never did an edible before. I took a little piece. This was when the Super Bowl was in New York. So we go down to Times Square. We go to Applebee's, get something to eat. We walking back to the hotel.

26:27Lowe's like, man, hey, man, how you feel? I'm like, I don't feel shitty. He was like, bet, well, eat the rest of that piece of the little pieces you broke off. It was blue. I'll never forget. Blue raspberry, like fruit roll up. I ate this whole piece of this shit, man. We go back to his room. We talked for about an hour, right? I'm like, let me go downstairs and go to sleep. Man, I went back downstairs, and that door closed on my hotel room, nigga, and it was, I never in my life. Man, listen, this is how I knew I was high. I stood at the door, and I'm like, I can taste my teeth. Go. And my mouth is gone, bro.

27:02I can taste my teeth. Man, I'm in there tripping. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Sometimes you get that wrong. It was, it was. shit come at you and you like, you can't control your, nah, I can't do that. I had to say this nigga life one time. How many times, how many times in your life that you got high to the point that you was dumbed out? Like, do you hallucinate or it don't affect you? Kiss, what's the highest you ever been? What's the highest you ever been? High. High high is that though, Kiss. I know you got some stories. You know who did that shit to me? We shooting a video in the desert with tigers and shit.

27:37We shot, this shit that looks like I'm cooking. We in the desert with tigers. Me, Remy, fucking Frenchman Taylor. Hold up, hold up. Who the fuck put the tigers in the desert? No, we put the tigers. It's a video call. It looks like we cooking, right? And so we shot it. Y 'all can look. It's not cat, right? The point is, I'm walking French and shit. I'm joking with him and he got some chocolate chip cookies. So I take a bite of it. I'm not noticing the whole fucking trip. Everybody knows I don't get out of it. The whole trailer's laughing, this and this and that. Next thing I know, nigga's like, well, I'm like, you're going to say, yo, that shit, you know.

28:17That was infused. It was like, how you doing, this and this. I said, nah, I'm good, this and this. So I start banging on Remy's trailer. Because, you know, not for nothing, no disrespect. You know, I shot a video with Cardi B. She did her makeup for five hours. For real? Girls, they could do that. Like, Remy was taking long. I'm paying for this shit, right? We're in the middle of the desert, tigers, all type of shit. I'm like, yo, I'm banging on the door. Yo, sun's going to go down. Sun's going to go down. She knew immediately. She opened the door. She said, what do you do? I said, what do you mean?

28:48She said, it's fucking 11 in the afternoon. The sun is out. What the fuck are you talking about? What did they do? She went over there in French and was like, yo, we gave them the weed cookie. She was dying laughing. She knew I was hot. She knew that. Sun's going to go down. Yeah. Yeah. 12 hours. Sun's going to go down. It's 11 in the morning. I'm banging on the door. Sun's going to go down. Yeah, that's probably going to take the longest for the sun to go down in the desert. Man, it's going to be up for a minute out there. Be there. Still there right now. Man, let me tell you something. For those that don't know, what's the origin of y 'all's show?

29:22Because you interviewed me before, y 'all. I got like a twist to y 'all show. It's not just people would just think y 'all in there talking shit. but let the people know. Nah, it's a freestyle comedy show. It's literally improv. But y 'all got good interview skills too, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Y 'all do your shit well. But see, the whole thing is, we don't... The traditional interview style where it's just questions, bro. We really like to interview people that we fans of, that we can show love. Like you said, the influences and the people who gave us little bits and pieces of the game. So it's never like, so how'd you get started, Jada?

30:05We don't talk about none of the shit that's on the blog. None of the controversial shit. No, you don't. We're not just going for it. No, you don't. No, you don't, Joe. You don't hate that, Joe. Because you always come with the question. That's how y 'all end up with delusional records because you be asking the bullshit. That's what you do. You think I ask the bullshit? You come with the question. You come with the Wendy Williams style questions on me. No! Yes, you do. You do. You kick it off. Light or smooth. And then you always, and then it's a real smooth how you do it. Yo, if you don't want to talk about it, I totally understand, but I got to know.

30:43Then you come with a question and Jada be like, oh.

30:49He do that because he knew they can't say shit back. No, I'm just, sometimes I would answer it different. You know, like me, I studied KRS-One. I studied yellow. When I first came out, if you look at my interview, I'd be like, nah, me, nah, I'm saying. They'd be like, yo, what color is this guy? Nah, me, nah, I'm saying. I didn't, I don't know why I look so stupid on BET. Like, nah, I mean, I never had like the skills to answer questions articulately. So I, back in the fucking VHS days and all that, I had taped interviews from KRS and LL, and I would watch them over and over again to learn how to actually answer questions and have social skills.

31:35So - That nigga LL Cool J is diabolical. That nigga came right on the record and said, they call me Big Ellie. Nobody ever said that. Crazy. Nobody's even uttered that before. I don't think he get the credit he deserves either, man. And like LL literally is like, he's, he created the term goat. Like it didn't exist before LL. Like he was. I give him the credit every time I see him. I mean, like the dude has been rapping since rap started. Like he literally has been. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like it's still relevant to this day. It's still relevant to now. It's like when you talk about the Mount Rushmore, it's like the thing that he's conquered every aspect of the game, acting, you know, rapping.

32:23I mean, I don't know if he was in, what was that with Jamie Foxx playing football? Yeah, he had a fight. I mean, all of that. That dude is one of him and G-Rap. That's when I knew he was different. When they put that nigga in the horror movie, the Halloween joint and he ain't die? I knew then. I knew then, bro. You know, the black dudes usually die in the opening credits. Yeah, you know what I mean? Rawr and stab the black dude. Christmas 2006. Yeah, you dying in the preview. You know, I watched this, man. They purposely made the white girl die first. In the movie Sinners, they made the white girl die first.

33:03That's what you got out of it. I'm telling you, what he just said, yo, the black dude died first. This is the first time the white girl died. The black dude died the summer before the movie came out. The white girl always died after she tripped. Yes, but the black guy dies first. The black guy died And then the white girl Tricked over the black guy She came back though She was at the end Yeah she ain't died first She was just the first She was in the whole movie Nah she lived the whole movie She lived for the whole movie She was still alive at the end Yo that Sinner shit Was crazy You know what I mean That shit was a trip But yeah like that Just getting those guys The credit from like That era like I said And G-Rap Like to me Cool G-Rap G-Rap, Chris, Foster, Kane, Rakim.

33:52Yeah, all them guys, man. I remember when I heard that verse, that first time I heard that verse he did on The Mobb Deep. You know what I mean? Yo, when the gas reveal, you cats get peeled and that's the real. Fuck the bitch ass and switch fast. Niggas that like the real. When the slugs burst, G-Rap be aiming at your muck first. Niggas is bloodthirst, but see who get plucked worse. We dug earth. Places put the nickel platers to your face. Bullets ain't racial, kid. They only hate you. They hate you. Like, nigga, what? What? Why? Why do you have racial violence? G-Rap is still before his time. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.

34:21He's going to definitely catch up to it. His time is somewhere up there. Like, do y 'all have, as guys that's been in the game for over 20 years, like, do y 'all have people that you haven't rapped with that you want to rap with? Is anybody left? I actually got to do a verse for G-Rap. But, um, you've been bought three stacks. You've been bought, you've been started that verse, man. I ain't got no damn time. I've been shooting all these. I mean, Joe and Jada took over my life. But, yeah, nah. Andre Three Stacks, Stevie Wonder. Oh, wow. I wanted to do a collab, but I actually these Three Stacks okayed it.

35:00I just got to speak to Stevie. See if I can see eye to eye with Stevie and we can get this. Well, you know, you got to show your song. Come on, Jada, man. What the fuck, man? You got to talk about on the song, man. Come on, Jada. I know I had a little bit of skills. In those cases, I got to feel this. You know he going to hear that shit. Nah. Yeah. Oh, Joe? Hey, not only is he going to hear it, when he walk up to him, he be like, I seen that shit you said. Ah. How about you, Joe? He will come up and say, I seen that shit you said about me. There's only one person I never worked with that I would love to work with, and it's Dr.

35:34Dre. Oh, shit. You never did a Dre? No, I never did a Dre. At all, people, I never did a Dre. I got a song with Dre. You got me a beat before this. I don't have a song with Drake. Bilal. He produced one of Bilal's singles. Yeah, I ain't got it. You know what I'm saying? So that's about the only person. Crazy. We work with everybody. You know, to me, the greats is Eminem. The greats is... I got Eminem. You know, I started with Big Pun, one of the greatest. Big L, one of the greatest. Of course. We got the rock with Hov. And shout out to Nori. We didn't get to tell him, but, you know, thanks for Nori and Memphis Bleak for making the All the Way Up remix possible.

36:18They say I never give them credit. So I had to give them credit, but I've been able to work. I've been able to, you know, a lot of times I like to work with people that could be my friends, but I admire their work so much. And so like Mary, like Mary be in my house all the time. But, you know, Mary, I work. That's funny that you brought it up because she's going to take, I say this shit all the time. I want to go over Mary J. Blige's house and just kick it on like a Sunday. Well, you come to my house, she's there all the time. Because I know she's going to have the vibe right, the music going to be good, she's going to be sipping a little wine.

36:52You know, she's sipping wine that got us wine. She's a little spaghetti or something. Love like that. She give it up. Shout out to Mary. I love Mary J. Blige. Yo, Mary also know how to throw them shots. Shout out to Mama Coral. Mary is a hood. L.T. Yeah, that's the story about. Wee, so she'll sit there and, you know, and she'll be like. Keep it solid as, yeah, you do. Yeah, I tell her. MJ, she ain't, she a chill, you know, that's all I should just say. I've been saying that shit for like 10 years. I knew, I could feel it. You know, when I get to telling, when I test my material on Mary, right?

37:24Because Mary sit down, she like to hear the stories. When I say, she be like, you ain't shit, nigga. You ain't shit, yo. I'm like, yo, man, what's up? Nah, you fucked up. Yeah, you probably be telling her the real story. Because I'm telling stories that I can't tell here. Yeah. Dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you be like, dumb shit. And when I'm telling her, she be like, you ain't shit, nigga. You ain't shit. Listen, if you can only imagine, like, that's the thing about the podcast. Like, you know, you watch podcasts a little different. You'll put it on and be ironing your clothes or cleaning up.

37:55But you'll walk out and walk in, and this man will say some wild shit. And you don't know where the conversation was at. The other day I was watching, all I heard was you say, yeah, I got to taste that shit. I'm like, what the fuck is yo talking about, man? What type of shit he got to taste, man? What is he talking about? It must have been a junior cheesecake and some shit. I need the glizz. Yeah. That was crazy. Need the glizz. That's really not crazy. It is. No, you said I'm a glizzy monster. Serious. Serious. You said you're a glizz. But the point is, the point is, you got to be vulnerable.

38:31You got to be real. The people got to hide. You know, that's the problem with society now. We want to hide shit and be like we perfect. Fuck that. I like a hot dog. Well, why you tell me I got to go to Turkey then, if that's the case? Push back. I thought it was vulnerability. You feel like G-Rap took a shot at you. I thought it was half your shit went back. He got one of the best. You look like you was in Django, and he shot half your shit back. Yo, Django? Yo, come on, man. That was racist, Joe. Come on, Django. Yo, that shit was like, Django? You shot the whole time for. Yo, get over here. Man, nah, I'm not messing with Joe, man.

39:09There's too many Puerto Ricas. I know they here. Listen, let me explain something. 150. I'm telling you the truth. Yeah, he's been telling the story. Listen, I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling you the truth. I'm not being funny. I'm not. Just go to Turkey. Get your shit right. He likes his shit. I ain't telling you what to do with his shit. I like his shit really fly. Not like my hair like you like glissies. This is the same thing. You know what I'm saying? If you can enjoy a glizzy proudly in front of 50 ,000 people at the Yankee Stadium. Okay. I can walk around like that. I do it. Like I really be in.

39:46You know what I do when people ask me about Chico Hartford? I'm not hiding the glizzy. What? I just, I try to make them feel bad for asking me. Man, what's up with Chico, man? Tell them to cut that shit off. I'm like, that's fucked up. Because you know we're about to have surgery, right? And then they be like, oh, my God.

40:08Oh my God, man. You got a guilt tripper, man. Fuck that chica, don't give a fuck, man. Yo, let me ask you something. With DC, right? You know - Shout out to DC, he would have been here, but the flight was messed up. I love that guy. The airport was crazy lately. The airport was crazy yesterday. And you know, his wife passed away. Do you guys ever get serious? Like, was that like a serious - Man, we done been through so much, man. My mom passed in 2021. and um from COVID and you know that was that was a major L for me because I only had my mother you know I'm saying like and having to adjust like I dealt with a lot of death in my life I've lost many many people in my life and you think that you're prepared for but nothing prepares you for that and when I went through that they were there for me you know I'm saying because Los lost his mom right before we started shooting wild and that you're never the same after that and when Fly went through what he went through.

41:04It was just a blessing that we understand each other beyond what we do. We're brothers for real. So we know how to be there for each other. And that's more important than anything because that support system that you have through times of tribulation is more important than anything you can ever do. And he's such a warrior. He's a, you know, this man, he's a warrior. Like the way he was able to handle it on his own made us proud, but still being able to be there in times where you don't have the answer or you just need to just, talk about something completely different. Being able to be there and being one of the people that a person wants to be there counts for everything, man.

41:40You ever go through something with somebody and they make you like, they make you respect them on a whole nother level. Bro, it's like DC, he the wild man out the group. Like we met him when he was young, like 2021 when he came around us, bro. And to see him go through becoming a father, to calming down, being a family man, and then for him to have to go through something so life-changing, so life-altering in front of his kids and hold it down and still do his shows and still be famous and still get criticized with the public. Because it's a public thing. Everybody got their opinions. Everybody got their theories of what happened or what didn't happen or how he should be handling it.

42:30But then it's like, brother, see him rise above all that. Keep the faith. It's really hard. Stand up. Be a father. Not go find another chick to say, help me with these kids. Like, really get up every morning. Drop these kids off. Make breakfast. Don't miss nothing. Go to recitals. Go to dance practice. And really see him stand up and not have to lean on nobody. Not need the help. Not accept it, but for him to do it by himself. and I never seen a tear fall out this man's face. I know that he did, but I never seen it. I never seen him have a day where he can't come outside or he laid up or he in that dark space or he ain't himself.

43:16It gave me a whole nother respect to be like, bro, when you got a relationship and your faith like that is with God and even when you at your lowest, You don't let nobody outside that house see it. And you still go do your show and you still go rock 10 ,000, 15 ,000 people. Get the first flight home, get right back to dropping kids off at school in the morning. That's different. No, he built different. Built different, man. Built differently, strong. You know what I mean? All the way, just the pillars of strength. And that's how we feed off each other. Like we've all watched each other do it in different capacities.

43:55Like, you know, I mean, like seeing the things that you go through as men, you know, a lot of people from the public perception don't understand. They look at your life and they assume that because you have things that things make everything better. But things don't mean anything. What life is, you know, I mean, when life is life, life is going life. And when you got when you go through those types of situations and you get to watch people that you, you know, you already have an understanding of how strong they are, but you get to watch them do it. You know what I mean? And watch him implement that strength.

44:24It's just something that you just be proud to God. Put the people in your life that he put in your life. Yeah. This is a lesson for all of us to learn from that. Like we were supposed to be around each other for a reason. You know what I'm saying? Like he said, I lost my mother right after the first season of Wildin' Out. Then I have to go back. And he's seen me struggle with some stuff in there. Just because people say things and they don't understand where you at with it. They don't know how this is going to affect you. You don't know how it's gonna affect you. When that moment gonna hit you, what's gonna make you break a sound, a smell.

44:57You know what I mean? Take you back to certain memories and stuff like that. And to have somebody that can understand that, to link like a real brother, not your partner that you work with. Like the ones who gonna call and check on you when they know about when the calls stop coming. Regular Tuesday, yeah. Yeah. That's real shit.

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48:23You know, it's the one thing, right, that you wonder your whole life, right? You wonder if that's going to break you, right? So to have longevity in this game, to have the game change to where everybody got a comment, everybody's going, they violate whoever, right? And the one question you ask yourself, like, you know, I look at the people that's mentally ill. I look at them. I see them. When I drive my car and they on the side, I see them. I look at them and I wonder what happened to them in their life. What snapped their brain? what what threw them off what made them crazy right and i always say it's like when your moms die i mean i i believe that uh it's it's a different type of pressure that you can't answer you're not prepared for it when it's gonna happen you don't know if you're gonna snap you're gonna get depressed you're gonna go crazy you're gonna this is about the biggest shit that could ever happen you're gonna do all of those things that's what i tell people in different forms that the way I explain it is the book of my life with my mother and it has the end on it, which means I can't add no more chapters.

49:39So if your parent is still here, add as many chapters as you can, because if the circle of life go the way they want it to go, then one day you're going to have to put the end on your book too. And your life will never be the same after that. You know, I got to shout out my brother Dre from Cool and Dre, because sometimes you think people, right, you know, when your parents are here and they'll be like, yo, spend more time with them. You don't know. I'm telling you this, this, that. you hear them but you also saying yo why these guys keep telling me this shit right and so me but he would always tell me yo I'm going with my mom's house my father's house cause I bought him a house that shit was like an hour and a half away from me I still would drive up two three times a week that's a long fucking drive bro right and the man would be like yo you're doing the right thing you're doing the right thing you're doing the right thing i'll be like all right cool because you know motherfuckers calling you norries and fucking makoto and yo i got the steaks and lobsters the wine is out everybody's trying to distract you but you gotta know that the nucleus of you you know the people who brought you into this world you can't you gotta spend as much time as you can with them because when the day's over you know what i'm saying and you can't communicate with them.

50:56It's over with. Forever. And I know now that that hour drive that you was making, you'll make a 10 hour drive every day if you could get them back just for Oh, super facts. Before we start to shoot this show, before we, you know, because we're the rookies of the year, so when we were shooting the intro actually of us walking in the building and the stuff you see with the Joe and Jada logos, he was actually preparing for his mom's funeral. So that had I'm like, damn, this guy is made out of steel. They would have to find me and they would have to find me somewhere. I don't know what I would have been doing.

51:35Then he married his mom and we shot the first episode the next day. I'm looking at him like, this guy's different. See, when you look back and you reflect on that, bro, especially with your mom, she be preparing you your whole life for that day. Yeah. And there's so many things that your mom has taught you that you don't even know that, you know, until she until she gone. It's just like your survival pack kick in. The way she do things like the way she love, like that's how you honor her. You know what I'm saying? Like my mom was the biggest giver, like a real life angel on Earth. Like she dedicated her life to service other people.

52:16And that was the way that she found her happiness was being the light for other people. So when you have to go through that moment, anybody can tell you, you can't. There is no way to prepare for that because that moment, that funeral comes and goes so fast. You sitting there and the next thing you know, you by yourself is over. It's like, damn, from when you look at it, it's like from death to to the ground that happens. And it feel like 10 minutes and you can never go back. But the legacy, the love that she gave you, all of those things, like it just changes you as a person, bro. That day is, that feeling never goes away.

52:56No, and it's value in being able to discuss it because there's a lot of people who are going through it. And like I said, if the circle of life go the way it's supposed to go, we all gonna have to go through it. And I watched my mother pass. Like I sat and watched her take her last breath. And I remember walking out of the hospital and the hospital room, and it's the same hospital I watched my uncle pass away in. And I thought I was prepared, but when that light hit me and I came out that room, it was like I felt something I never felt before. And ever since that day, it's gave me a greater understanding of what, like he said, what she did throughout the time of my life.

53:29Because now when I think about all of the different lessons that she gave me that I might not have understood in the moment because I wanted to do what I wanted to do or whatever, now I get it. Like that responsibility that she instilled in me prepared me to be able to deal with her not being able to give it to me every day anymore. Yeah. Yeah, that shit. That whole thing is crazy. I had my mother and father pass away within two months. So I'm going to the hospital. I'm in the hospital, and I'm going from room to room. And they both sick. That shit was... I salute to you, man. You know what I mean?

54:04That shit was crazy, man. I salute to you as a father, too, man. You know what I mean? I know your son has autism. Autism. Autism. Autism. And I did that type of work for years, and I know how much it takes to deal with that on a day-to-day basis, man. So salute to you for that, brother, and what you do, and having to—people don't understand how serious that is. We believe in we don't abandon our kids. We believe in— That's commendable, brother. That's respectable. Nah, he's the biggest blessing. I feel like if you're not a real father and you abandon your kids, you'll be cursed. so my thing is like you know what i'm saying you gotta you gotta support your kids man at all times because they're the biggest blessings and with joey he's just uh the biggest blessing he's happy all the time he start what's crazy is my mother and father really raised him right and since they passed he started doing shit he never did before like he's feeding himself all the stuff You just said that if survival pack kicks in, you kick in.

55:07No, he started to stand up. You just said that. The other day, he stood up and started dancing, and they ran at him. Joey, like everybody was like, you know, and you know, you know, his favorite is Daddy Yankee. You know what I'm saying? So that shit came on, and he was up there dancing, and everybody ran. He doing shit he never did before. Out of nowhere, he matured. and he realized he got to get a little stronger and be a man rather than a kid but you know Joey's the biggest blessing man we we love him and I love that you know for years you know this rap shit is dirty right you know when you got beef with all the dudes I had beef with a rap you got to keep Joey tucked cause this shit can get real disrespectful out here you know how these dudes do right they'll put them on the cover of a DVD like yo this so I always protected him and the weirdest thing is just one day maybe I felt mature enough I had no more beef with nobody I'm saying man let me show little Joey to the people you know what I'm saying they might have knew I had him and man caught a lot of love you know how many people dealing with this shit like in real life and how many mostly the men leave and leave the women alone with the kid or even men that deal with autistic or Down syndrome kids, you got to respect them on another level.

56:35And me, because Joey is who he is, I can spot him. Even if I'm in an airport, I'm at a restaurant, I know these kids. So I immediately walk up to them and mad people be like, yo, thank you for Joey. You inspire us. But, you know, that's just family. You know what I'm saying? You got to be there for your family. How many kids you got? Five. Wow. Big one bullshit. Three boys too good. I got twins, that's right. Oh, OK. Yeah, two at the same time. That's what it is. Then twins, what's that like? Like, we should have your wife back. Double everything, man. Yeah. Double tuition, double camps, double Jordans, double doctors, double Jordans.

57:16Double Jordans. Double fuck it. When the doctor goes surprise, twins. What do you say? That's what it was. See, it wasn't like it wasn't. I thought I was finished. I thought the roster was over. So you get the news, then you're like, you know, there's two of them. There's two of them. Let me take this out carefully. You know what I'm saying? I don't got no twins in my family. Are they different? Or like one - Yeah, they like me. I'm a Gemini, so I got two different things. They got one each. They got two of them. You know how you say Gemini's got personalities? these days got two of them. His son, Jawan is a personal consultant to the show.

58:00So when we feel like we too old, we ask them all the young dudes questions. Oh, that's what I do. I use my daughter for the same thing. She is my liaison into the YN world. She'll turn you so quick. I mean, whatever it is, I'd be like, hey, baby, what this mean? I know all the new slang and all of that because of her. She keep you up, baby. She keep me in the game. And that's the thing. That's something we connect on because our kid is the same age He got a boy. I got a girl. So and then this man's son is six foot four. Like six, six, six, six. Yeah, he ready to play for the Falcons or the Hawks or something.

58:35Hawks. No doubt. He loves some basketball. He love to dunk on people. That's what he that don't keep dunking. That's crazy. Like he can really like get up there. Yeah, that's crazy. Six, six. I know I'd be looking like, man, as soon as I find that tall nigga, your mama fuck that look just like me, we gon' have a problem. I tell them all the time, if you keep growing, I'm gon' have to help you find your real father. It ain't no, you can go back three generations and my family ain't nobody 6 '6". You know, my mother and father both short, like, really short. No, his mom not short. Oh, my mother and father was short.

59:12I remember 12 years old crossing the street with them feeling doofy as fuck. Like, y 'all got a holy hand across the street and shit like that. do that. Well, they made me, you know, they made me do that. Okay? Like, you know, I had a real protective mother and father, you know what I'm saying? So they was like, they was doing all that shit. You know what I'm saying? Who's some of your biggest shows, biggest guests y 'all had, would y 'all say, man? Man. The biggest? Yeah. Biggest. I mean, you know, all those shows be dope, but you know it'd be one or two that was What's the standout? I went out the park.

59:50A couple, maybe. Boosie. Oh, all right. I can see that. Number one is Boosie. Boosie. You know what? We need Boosie. We did an interview with Dr. Fauci. Yeah, we did. Oh, yeah. Fauci? Yeah, we did Dr. Fauci. Hey, Fat Joe, you know what's crazy? Boosie would love to do this show. I can't speak for him. Yeah. But from the South, Boosie, he always wanted to be embraced because he look at y 'all as legend. Why you know the love that he gets up here? I did the remix. But I definitely relayed to him and let him know. Let me tell you something. Boosie Boosie is the truth. Without question. And I love what he stands for and everything.

1:00:33He be saying the shit I can't say. Y 'all think I say crazy shit. I watch Boosie I'm like, next show is you and him. You and him need a show. Yeah, well nah. That ain't gonna last but one episode. I knew that shit. Come on, fat Joe Manning. Come on, man. Come on, man. No, no, I'm telling you, so legend. Listen, man, that's my favorite shit, so legend. The one that he told you was like, yo, this dude tried you with a dude, tried you in the bathroom. And he was like, yo, we beat this dude so legend. We beat the brakes off him. He drank piss water and everything. He sure did. I was like. The good thing is he never, because the guys used to set me up.

1:01:13they come up and your mom's a lesbian your father's a and it cost me$50 ,000 lawsuit it got me at least 20 times damn why did you keep letting them get you because they would come up and say the wildest shit and you gotta hook off on them and then this one guy this is the one guy the reason why I gave him props in that story was this is the one guy took the ass whipping on the chin and didn't come and get me locked up didn't sue you know he just he just took it walking. You know what I'm saying? A lot of guys now, you know, not even now, years ago, man, I got set up so many times. I was like a big, you big dummy.

1:01:49I was like a big dummy. I mean, but how has the game changed in that regard now? Because y 'all legends. I mean, so do you still have to move with that same intensity now that you did in the 90s and the 2000s? See that guy there? I seen him in the airport. I saw him in the airport. No, no, that's Rich Blair. You see that guy? He look Jason Boyle. I'm talking about him. I'm talking about him, because that nigga, like, he will headbutt your face loose. I saw him in the airport in the morning. I was like, man, a headbutt from this thing's the juggernaut. Let me explain to you. All my security know.

1:02:24We fight. Just shoot when it's time. That's it. We fight. We like, we actually like to fight. Oh, I've seen you say it. It's a family show. It's a family show. We don't condone no violence. Yeah, none whatsoever. No violence. No violence. I mean, because y 'all been doing it for so long that had to move through the game back in the day. I ask people this all the time. What was the difference between being famous when famous was famous versus now? Before the iPhone came out. Before social media, before the internet. What was that like? I think it was more. I think it was beautiful. I think it was the best time.

1:03:04That's the, people got their different categories of the golden era, but I say the most golden era is before this shit. You know what I'm saying? When everything had to be in here. When you can do something and don't have to worry about somebody over there. Passing it to Harvey or whoever the fuck is, you know, any platform when you was able to when life was a little more private and when you had a good time, it had to be in here or in here. It was, you know, I mean, if you missed it, it ain't no scrolling to find it the next day. You just missed it. You got to wait to the next one. You got to hear about it.

1:03:40I mean, yeah, that's what I think was the best time in my life before this. My time. He was still catching lawsuits before somebody. Yeah, I was catching loss. I was set up. Let's go to another second. You know Mike Tyson paid so much money. Mike Tyson was like that too. They used to set him up. They used to start with him and knock him out. Mike, you ain't the champ. A million dollars. They were catching Mike Tyson all the time. I had to teach myself. I don't think I want a million dollars that bad. A punch for Mike? I don't think I wanted that. I don't want that. Nah. If Mike hits you, you'll never be the same.

1:04:19Yeah. Ever. You got to wake up every morning and drink a chocolate milk and shit. He going to fuck you up. Through your neck. Oh, yeah, he going to fuck you. You got to drink it through your neck. You going to have to have a chocolate milk every morning. He just beat a guy up last year on the plane, but he was just giving him rib shots. He purposely wasn't hitting him in the head. He never did for the burp again, that guy. Yeah, I don't want to run into none of that. Like, even every story that you hear about y 'all back in the day, the terror squad, like, they said you guys were the terror squad.

1:04:45Allegedly. Yeah, the terror squad and the warlocks. Yeah, the warlocks. Yeah, like that's just a different type of era. I couldn't imagine. They beat motherfuckers up with a chain. Big ass lock on them. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Not just fights. These brawls with whole clubs. It's jazz from over there. Everybody fight. The promoter pissed on himself. Everybody. Fat Joe is outside with 211 Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, and everybody that speaks Spanish? Yeah, for real. And one Czechoslovakian. That's the one you got worried about. Yo, where's my man from? We got one. Yo, we got one.

1:05:25How? Croatia. We got one. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? And then like the human proto. Then he telling the story the next day. So look, it's me, Nina Sky, Nori, Jadakiss' cousin, and the Croatian guy. And the Croatian guy. You need the Croatian guy. But I wanted to ask y 'all this though. It's like, you know, people throw around the word legends and, you know, icons and stuff like that, but y 'all still acted in the game, bro. You know, like before you got to taste the success and you make your little checklist of shit that you wanted to, you know, I want to work with this person, I want to get this, and get, you know, do the vacations, get a house, get a crib, brother.

1:06:07Do you have anything left on your list of things that you want to do? It's not enough. It's not enough. is not enough. I mean, like he always say, you bless, you thankful, you able to do the things in life you want, but you got to keep working. You got to keep working. I'm able to put kids through college by my mom and crib, stuff like that. So those is, I guess, some of the biggest accomplishments. But, you know, we right here filming right now. They pay some more bills. That's the beautiful part. Like, did you see yourself, like back in the day. You know, nobody really had the ability to know the trajectory or the way that the game was going to go.

1:06:48But you guys are media personalities now. Let me answer this. How about I'm the guy who didn't tell the stories? How about I'm the guy who used to hang out with Biggie Smalls all the time but never took a picture with him? I was thinking this street shit. Yo, we take no pics. We diss. I was the guy not telling the stories. And then who knew? I get up in here, start talking these podcast stories, and they start going through the wazoo. And I said, oh, shit. These people want to hear some of this shit. But before I did podcasts, Kanye would pull up on me. Pharrell, all the nice guys would pull up on me.

1:07:28Like, yo, tell me, Drake, pull up on me. Drake, pull up on me. Yo, tell me stories. You told me about the time you was at, and you know, I would tell them the stories. Fat Joe's Campfire. Fat Joe's Campfire. Pharrell, Kanye, Drake, all those guys. Wanted to hear the fucking story. You got to sit around the fire. I got a new show for him, volume. Logan and James and all y 'all holler at me. Fat Joe's Campfire. For real. Nah, but I got an idea, James, is legendary. That we can slap onto this pause. But, you know, I got an idea. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking about turning these stories into like Charlie Murphy.

1:08:11Remember when Charlie Murphy was telling them stories? Nobody believed Charlie Murphy, Prince with fucking heels, and the whole crew with, you know, my stories. I'm about to get some comedians to act them shits out or something. Yeah, I want to be in the one where you told about AI in Chicago. Like, that's one of my favorites. No, no, that was in Virginia. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about the one with the dude, what was it, K.O.? Kano? K.O.? Kato. Kato in Chicago. Oh, Kato. You remember that one? Yeah, listen, I've been tuned in for a long time. Like that story is like he said, man, he told Iverson, he said, yo, his wife get out the car.

1:08:43She was the first one with the BBL shit and all this shit. She got out the car with pasties on her nipples. Toothpaste. Toothstrings. On her nipples. Dead ass naked with a hundred. She had a hundred guys. They had a hundred guys. They run Chicago. Anybody in Chicago come back? No less than a hundred. No less than a hundred. He say he got his man in the car, a man of freaked out fiend. He was like, you nigga get out the car. Yo, he was like, nigga, don't look over there. I told Raul. He was like, Raul, don't look over there. Oh my God. I said, bro, they will fucking kill you. Do not look at that.

1:09:18You got to ignore. You had to actually ignore that the girl, the most beautiful girl you ever seen is butt naked next to you. And you got to act like she ain't there. Don't look that way. So I have a birthday party. they come down. Right? It was MTV Awards after party. Missy, everybody's in there. Y 'all guys was probably there. And she's standing up there looking like a fucking alien at that time. What I'm trying to tell you is nobody had the theory. She was like, and AI was like, yo, I need to get that. And I was like, no, you don't. Yo, listen, the man kept telling me, yo, I got to get at that.

1:09:59I have to. I sat him down. I said, listen, This is what he said. This is what he said. He said, yo. He said, Nick here, they're going to kill you. And not regular. They're going to kill you in the middle of the court during the game on TV. Yes. That's so serious. That shit. You knew it too. That was X's man. I was talking about how they might have to stab Mike Tyson. And they was going to send Lucha in first because he was the biggest. He was 21 fingers. Who was going to have to be the... Who was going to have to be having internal brain damage? Because whoever had to go first... Did y 'all rock, paper, scissors for that decision?

1:10:45Yeah, me like that. I was like, I'm not... I was never even qualified. I was never even going to be the... I was always 30. I was never going to be first or second. That was P and Lucha for the whole day. No, that shit ain't right.

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1:14:22You know what I'm saying? That shit ain't right. We fought a boxer one time. Right? Nah, I'll tell you the truth. We had a big brawl in the club in Manhattan. Back in Manhattan, they used to have these bouncers. These guys was to the sky, cocked easy. They just throw you out. They threw us out. It was four of us. And one of the guys that we was fighting, they threw him out too. Oh, Walsh. So, Walsh. If he threw one of them with three, four yards. Listen. not only that he knocked out the biggest terror squad gladiators like so tol montana my best friend he was he was the one if there was ever a leader in terror squad it's him he knocked him out so he knocked him out when the nigga flipped forward right then my man I don't want to say all their names cause they might be alive they might be alive I mean like you know what I'm saying No, he knows the story.

1:15:21He knows what it is. He knows what it is. He went, oh, no, my man. No, I got one for you. No, it wasn't Rich. No, he went up. No. The next one come up, he knocks him out. We don't know he's a boxer. No, no, he knocked him out. This guy, he wins all his fights. This guy, my man. He wins all his fights. Street fights, he wins. He got knocked out. The next one came, got knocked out. Now, I'm the fat big guy. I'm the last guy he thinks is going to violate him. I throw a bottle at him and crack his shit on me. He was like, yo, that ain't right. Nigga, this ain't no boxing ring. Are you fucking crazy?

1:15:57You think you knocking me out? But check this out. Check this out. The guy later, years later, 15 years later, this guy becomes champion of the world. He's from the Bronx. He becomes champion of the world, right? And we're proud of him. He's Puerto Rican. So we supporting them and shit like that. So one day I go to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe and I'm with him. We supporting him. You know what I mean? It's over. A long time ago. I never told him about it. He got real drunk. And he sat down and he said, you know, I know where I know you from. And I was like, this is 15 years later, right? So he said, you know, I know where I know you from, right?

1:16:40You're sitting in a chair with me. I'll never forget. We in Jimmy's Bronx Cafe. And I was like, nah, what are you talking about? He was like, your man's home on to him. No, I knocked him out. Then your man such and such. He knew everybody he knocked out, too. He said, you hit me with the bottle. I said, yo, forget about that, man. You the champ of the world. Real talk. I'm like, yo, forget about that. You the champ of the world. Then he came back. He was like, nah, fuck that. I never, I see you, bro. I don't know if you doing the numbers. I got a hundred niggas here. I knew it. I was about to say.

1:17:12You know what I'm talking about? Yo. One. No, no, no. We had 100. I said, bro, you're going to get pounded out. How big is Jimmy's Bronx Cafe? What? Thousands of people would say, he ain't been to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe. We up in there like this. And I'm like, I've been supporting this guy. I thought he didn't know. I thought he forgot or whatever the case may be. He brought it back 15 years later. He's the champ of the world. We supporting him. We going to his fights, showing love. And then he's trying to talk that shit. He got too drunk. I was like, yo, bro, you don't want to get pounded. You don't want to get danced on right here, bro.

1:17:47You're going to get danced on. He knows I know what I'm talking about. He's watching. That's crazy. Bro, people always talk about the tunnel. What was the other spot? The tunnel was the craziest spot. So that was the craziest spot. A lot of shit. What was the other shit? What's the other legendary shit? Besides the tunnel. Yeah, besides the tunnel. You know, up in the Bronx, we at the Fever. We fight the bouncers every week. Every week. I don't even know why they kept letting us back in. Where the fight? Where the shit with mad people, R &B niggas had mad fights at? Greenhouse, Terry, one of those shits.

1:18:21Chris Brown. Tony Parker. Oh, yeah, I used to go to that spot. Down by the Meatpacking District. Yeah. Pause. Wow. You remember that club, right? That's when they got into it with, I think it was with Chris Brown and Drake and all of it. It was R &B. It was some, yeah. Crazy. Nah, man. You know, New York, let me tell you something. New York, with no disrespect, is survival of the fitness. Male or female. No question. It's the only place. You pull up at a light and these chicks look like decent nurses and shit and singing. You get stabbed in your face, homie. You're looking at the car. You're like, Jesus Christ.

1:19:07New York got different type of people. Just to go to the bodega and make it back, You come visit your cousins to go to the boat. Shit crazy. Like, you go, it could just pop off everywhere. I don't know how to explain it to you. It just, New York City, it pop. You're the wrong place at the wrong time. Anywhere in the world. Anywhere, but I got to ask, like, you from the Bronx, you from Yonkers, what's your favorite borough outside of the one you're from? Nowhere. What? Him, for him. I'm answering for him. How you going to answer for me? Holla. Harlem. Bronx dudes are like fake Harlem guys. You know what I'm saying?

1:19:47We right over the bridge. He about to have you in some more shit. He said it. I'm serious. I'm not responsible for the shit he said. It's like the knee bones connected to the... Somebody look at Rich's face. He opened up the weed spot in Harlem. That's exactly what I mean. Okay. Bronx and Harlem are so connected. It's like cousins a little bit. Yeah, it's like cousins right there. But like each other. Okay. That's true, too. That's crazy. Like, I be hearing Bronx dudes talking about Harlem dudes. I be like, yo, what are you talking about? You in Harlem every day? I like Harlem. I like the... I mean, Harlem, we know you be down there.

1:20:29I like, yeah, I be down there. Oh, you see me outside. I like BK. They got love for me and BK and Queens. Man, the verses went crazy. Man, that was one. That's the greatest verses ever. That's the greatest versus Evel. That was a great yeah, you was on Adderall. Adderall War Mode. Yeah. You know what I mean? When you apologized, you was like, yo. I wasn't on anything for the sponsors. Yeah. I was actually you can take a blood test. I know they got shit that I can take my blood test back then. I gotta ask y 'all this, though. We got in fan mode. Yeah, without question. What's Fat Joe's favorite Fat Joe verse?

1:21:05What's Jadak's favorite Jadak's verse? Out of all your catalog love. I'm like, if you heard this shit and you, like, that's the one that just take you to another level. Like, nigga, I was in my bag when I did this. One is, it's one of the songs from the Don Carter G now. Are you asking me to tell you what my favorite Jadakiss verse is? Both. Give me your favorite Fat Joe verse. My favorite Fat Joe verse is with Big L, The Enemy. It was like, enough's enough. Fedorized, try to set me up. Put me in cuffs and crush what I lost into dust. Plus They want a nigga's soul, but they know Big Joey Cracker never rat a cat.

1:21:43Did he know? For sure. That before the sauna. I left the streets alone since Tony deceased. It almost killed his mama. So I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. You know, Big L threatened me and made me write the rhyme in front of him. And he was my little brother. He told me, he said, I went gold for the first time. He said, I'm going to take all your fans. Yo, L was crazy. Right? So he threatened me and made me write it in front of him. And he was letting me know I'm taking all your fans. And so I had to get to like an elite level of rapping. You know what I mean? So anytime I hear that record, I'm just like, wow.

1:22:18He was on one. Like I had to go. I had Big Al threatening me right in my face. I don't have a favorite verse. I don't think I made it yet. Damn. Damn. For real, huh? You done been. All the verses you made. You got some freestyles. This one didn't come yet. So word. That better be fucking. Bro, I got. When I listen to kids, I got questions, though. You be leaving me in suspense. She say she was a model for a year and a half. And then she took her braids out. But why does she stop, though? What happened to her modeling career? What she started doing? Start getting a basketball player. Oh, okay. Yeah.

1:22:53Anyway, I'm K.I. Double. I don't even care what I was just talking about. She started fucking with a basketball player. I know my favorite. You got quick response. Hey, man, listen. My favorite Fat Joe shit is we thugging. That's my favorite shit. Man, listen. You said, got the mink on. Same color, the range. I was like, yeah, that nigga Puerto Rican. He said, got the mink on. Same color, the range. That's my shit right there. Let me tell you about that, right? That's Kelly, right? Yeah. Well, what happens is, Pun had passed away. Man, I never met R. Kelly. At the time, R. Kelly's a god. People just really, we talking about fame.

1:23:32And now, God forbid, he was doing them songs right now with Instagram and TikTok and all that. Like, he was like, he only rocked with Biggie and I think Nas at the time. Right? So pump ass is away. You know, I'm depressed. I'm going through my stuff. I think it was All-Star weekend and I walk up in there and R. Kelly's at the game. Like, R. Kelly was like, I don't even know how to explain it to you. And maybe in Chicago, he was regular. They knew him. But for us, we never really seen him like that. And when you see him, he was like, yo, Fat Joe. I was like, yo, Fat Joe, Joe. Message. I walk over and I'm like, yo, what's up?

1:24:14I'm like really confused like how R. Kelly knows me. Rest in peace, big pun. I love you, Puerto Ricans. I grew up with the Puerto Ricans. In fact, R. Kelly introduced me to Kato from Chicago. He was there with the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans. R. Kelly, he got some serious juice out there, right? So, It's apple juice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he, no, no, no. That's not the right shit to say, Lowe. Oh, Lowe. No, he does not have, no, no, we're not going to do that. That's the wrong one. That's not it. That's what they serve it, man. Could we do this, Brian? So long story short, he tells me, y 'all want to do a song with you.

1:24:58At the time, I'm super street gangster. like I haven't crossed I ain't the fat Joe I am now so I grab a shoulder I say don't lie to me don't tell me you're doing a song I'm not the one if you say right now you were just joking it's cool but don't tell me you're doing a song you ain't doing a song nah fucks with you this this that matter of fact I'm gonna be in Orlando come down at the time I didn't even fly so I drive down to Orlando so Ron G shout out Ron G Ron G cause no one would give me a hit beat No one. If I went to the track masses, I went to the guys who made all the hits. They would give me fucking locks, mob deep, fat Joe beats.

1:25:43Nobody ever thought I was going to have a commercial hit. Nobody. And I knew all the hit makers. They just wouldn't give it to me. If I told them to give me something, they'll give me a shot. You're something. They won't give me that. So Ron G was like, y 'all made it. It's all hits that he's saying. No, no, no, no. I mean like hardcore street. You know, All that shit was hard, grimy. That 40 joints. Grimy, I'm talking about that. Frisbee, bro. With a new audience, right? Not guys with razors in their mouth. The shit with the R &B hook on it. Shit. So I remember I'm in front of Jimmy's Cafe. Ron G meets me.

1:26:18He gives me a beat CD. And we dug it. And then we start running around the car, the truck. Yo, yo. We knew immediately it was crazy. So I drive down to Orlando. It's a true story. When I get in the studio, R. Kelly is there. Track Masters is there. So I play him. We dug him with both verses. Joe Crack and everybody in the room, these all New York guys was with him, right? They looking like, oh, shit, we never heard Crack rap like that, like an R &B, hip hop, right? so he immediately dives off the couch and he got like a you know he's bugged out just be clear right he's so much of a genius he's bugged out so he grabs a tape thing

1:27:13and I'm like yo and then and then he goes cool so I play it for him he was like yo that shit is fire he always talk like smooth like yo that shit fire right there, yo. You know this now, but I can't do it now. I said, well, he said, my teeth hurt. My teeth hurt. Right? So now, this is Fat Joe. The gangster. This is the gangster. This is the shot of my life. So I'm looking at him and said, well, he said, teeth hurt, man. I can't do it. So I'm like, I drove 20 hours. I'm like, looking at him, this, this, that. Then he gets up and walks out the door. He disappears out of the door. Now I'm there. 30 minutes, an hour.

1:28:00Like, I'm trying to tell you I was really, really super gangster hood. I was not polished. I'm like, man, fuck that. I get up. I open the door. When I open the door, it's 3 in the morning. There's a fucking dentist working on his teeth with the chair back in the studio at 3 in the morning. Man, get the fucking down. I'm gone. in the studio. I felt so bad because here I'm trying to go beef with him. Right? Because I'm thinking he's trying to play me or something. The man got a dentist at three in the morning. I wasn't on that level of luxury or something. I never seen no shit like this. I felt bad.

1:28:39Yo, I told you. My teeth hurt, Joe. This, this, this. I closed the door. I said, yo, I'm sorry. So we go to the hotel. Actually, not even a hotel. The shit was like a motel. You know them shits with the doors outside? The Orlando's Hotel. The shit with the door on La Quinta Inn and shit like that. So we up in there. It's like four or five of us, right? I wait a day. I'm writing because I think I was doing, no, what I was doing, Jose. So I'm writing to beats. One more day come. We don't hear from R. Kelly, right? One more day come. I'm like, man, fuck this nigga, man. Yo, word to mother, let's go back to New York.

1:29:20This nigga playing with us, this, this, this, this, this. So we get the truck ready, and we about to pull over to New York, and the phone ring. And I'm like, yo, what's up? He's like, yo, it's Kels. I said, yo, Kels. Like, I'm looking at me a whole lot. I'm like, yo, Kels, what's up? He was like, listen. And he played We Talk and Rolling on Dubs and all up in the club and wild and like what. And I was like, yo! Yo, the man changed my life. The man changed my life. And it's full of honeys, panties with no top. We take up a dro and be like, ooh.

1:30:04So when he played that, it only been Biggie. It only been Nas at that time. Not even Jay and him wasn't working yet. And I said, top dog, baby. I got it. I got it. I'm like, I got, so we, you remember we used to throw them terror squad pool parties in Miami. Everybody you named was there. AI, him, Cam, this, this. We tried to get in a few of them, but you had 100. Yeah, right. Man, I was 12. I still was trying to cuff. Before we did, we used to have a terror squad pool party. That was bananas. It was out of control, these pool parties. I be your promoter. And I remember all the rappers was there.

1:30:45They was there, Cam, all of them, Busta, all of them. And I went to the DJ and I was like, yo, press play. And that shit came on. We eat the hugging, bro. And I seen every fabs. I seen everybody's face. And they was like, this nigga got one of Frisbee. Is that cows? Is that all on the hook? Like, they was looking around like, oh, my God. The last thing we needed was this nigga with one of these. It was over And you know It changed my life It's the first big hit I ever had Man that's love Right there man Woo Woo Woo But y 'all got what You got an upcoming tour Oh yeah man Spin the block man Spin the block We going back out man We going back out In the city again All the cities man And that's the beautiful part Like that's why we calling it Spin the block Because a lot of these places We've been blessed to have been But the people love us man And we love them So we get Hitting a lot of the spots That we done been through and the beautiful part about our show is it's improv you know it's all improv we ain't never practiced we ain't never you know got together and said we're gonna say this or say that so every show is different so that's fine yeah so every time we go they get a different show so that's why we can you know be excited about going back to places that we've been before because you know we're gonna give them something different and we got new experiences and new things to talk about the world has changed and we always go off the top of our heads so it's gonna be beautiful Make sure you get your tickets.

1:32:13You know how that shit is when you on tour and you get to, this time we got the pick and choose where we want to go. And we can go, not just for the city, but spots we like to perform in. You know, theaters that just had a different type of ambiance and arenas and shit like that. So now it's like we kind of went through this handpicked, like exactly where we wanted to be. So it's going to be a dope experience. We familiar with all the places. We got a dope ass audience and we know a lot of people. You guys are hilarious, man. Come see us. I remember the one special y 'all had, right? We had it on Netflix or something.

1:32:47Yeah. I watched that shit, man. That shit was great. Yeah. And the love. The love that your city, you know, well, you from originally DC. He from Mississippi. ATL, that kind of love they give y 'all. Yeah, but they show us love. You know, I love the ATL. You know, Jada knows I say this all the time, man. I wish I moved there years ago. And it's just because I just love the camaraderie. I love how y 'all love on each other. Pause, right? Everybody gets love and it's unity. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's unity. And are you doing the Jadakiss? Yo, that's the Jadakiss ran under a pillow yesterday.

1:33:26He was like the smallest little Joe and Jadakiss. He found a new one. He's running back in this. Back in this. Not back in this. Yo, he's trying to. Back in this. The little man. You seen the little man? Yeah, yeah. That's what I remember. You told you he's a man of the show. You know, that's facts. And you know what else I did? And they tried to, they be trying to kill you, saying you don't let people talk and all that. You be lying. Fuck that. They do have a Bronx day in Atlanta. Hello? Listen, they never want to pay me. No, it's just the fact that you know that. If you ask him, though, he'll tell you Jermaine DePrius from the Bronx.

1:34:06Oh, yeah. He didn't gave me the joint with the dates on it. So we got September 6th, we in Detroit, the 7th, Indianapolis, the 20th, Columbia, South Carolina, then the 21st, Greensboro, Philly, Fairfax, Memphis, Nashville, Dallas, Houston, Hampton, Charlotte, Birmingham, New Orleans, Chicago, Cincinnati, and then we're going to end it off in Atlanta. Let me tell you something. All I heard there was a bunch of money, right? Why you hear that? You guys are getting a bunch of money. That's all I heard there was, hey, they're getting to the back. I have to recommend the rewind the time. Plus, rewind the time.

1:34:43No, no you don't, Los. I ain't got to go to Turkey. You ain't got to rewind the time. You got to rewind. You want to look like Tyson. Look, Los, look, Los. You could get one that's like this shit right now. The black with the gray gold teeth. Peep the numbers. Yo, listen, peep the numbers. I need my deal. Why look 48 when you can look 36? Why look 36 when you can look 22. See, as, you know, the numbers go down while it's going down. You got to why fight the time when you can rewind the time and shit, bro. This the thing. We keep giving all our customers and all our guests a deal. She gonna tell you.

1:35:20Let me get a deal. No, no. When I use shit like this, like if I get a role or audition or something like this, the ladies get mad as hell. They like the great shit. They just like, you think so? They like, leave it. This a whole different audience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why we ain't going to Turkey. When you got to play, then you start attracting women that own homes. SL 500s and shit like that. Insurance. No, I like that. She liked to go on vacation. Big time. Yeah, women that'll pay for you and shit. If you ever want to feel brand new.

1:36:01Rewind it at Sally's and CVS. Sally's. Stop it. Once you an old nigga, you just an old nigga. You can shave that shit off. I'm going to be a young old nigga. You just an old nigga. I'm a young old nigga. I'm not doing that. 36 and 48 is literally the same thing. Get that kids' cafe again. Yeah, for sure. Kids' cafe. Wake up in the morning. You know what I mean? Watch the 85 South show. Spend the block tour. We started drinking coffee, man. My dad been in the cold. We love 85 South. What else? Oh, yeah. I got a stand-up special on Hulu right now. Watch that. You know, if you got Hulu, if you don't got Hulu, download it, watch it, and then you can take it off after you watch it.

1:36:38Ladies and gentlemen, make some loud noise for our guest Chico, my brother Los, on the Joe and Jay show. We appreciate y 'all. Hey, thank you. Good shit, bro.

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