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27:54He came up on me, basically. You know what I mean? So he watched everything that I went through. You did. You know what I mean? Seeing the sky blue drop top, Bentley's coming through that bad new V. Ain't nobody, yo, nobody was... Where he from? The AI, you had a lot of fucking cars, man. Them shits was coming like, I thought this shit was free. I remember I'm riding with you. Nah! I'm telling you the truth. I thought this shit was free. The man coming with three back-to-back drop top shit. He's coming up. Three. Yo, it's disgusting. I remember Steph told me, Steph Marbury. That's right. I love Steph.

28:36That's my dog. I love Steph to death. Steph told me one time, we was just talking. Just me and him was in the back of the bus. And he was like, Chuck, man, why do you have two Phantoms and the same Phantom, just different colors? Like, for what? You know what I mean? I swear to God. Back then, I thought it was like, Now you guys looking at that one pair of legs and one ass. They were driving this shit to New York from Philly. We don't know nothing about the mileage. Nothing. He pulled up the YL. I used to run out of gas and the motherfucker just, man, just wild. Man, but when I came in the league, I was 21.

29:10I think I had a YL. One of the joints ran out of gas. Yeah, I was 21.

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35:10I was 21. Remember, I got too many stories with you that we'll chill on. Yeah, I know. I don't listen to your stories. You listen to my stories? Yeah. We got one you won't admit. That's why I say, that's why I tell people. Mama, you know we got beat up in bad news. Man, don't do that. I'm trying to tell you. And you know Ross started that. Oh, shit. You know, Rob started that. Oh, so he started something happening. Rob, you remember. All right, you admitting that something happened. Yeah, you say I got you beat up. He got hit in the chest with a Heineken bottle. Yo, they threw him by 10. And he say I got him beat up.

35:41He got hit in the chest. Somebody threw a Heineken bottle and hit him in the chest. Hit him in the chest? I ain't fucking me. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, this shit. I ain't, I never said, I never said that didn't happen. No, you like, I'm a fucking Heineken bottle to the chest. Did nothing, T. He said I got him beat up. I beat up. Well, first of all, Rob snuffed the dude. Ra jumped in the crowd after the dude. Right? We at his birthday party. You know how this shit going on out there, right? I don't understand this shit. One minute we over there, we like, yo, we with AI, bad news. The next thing, they throwing so many cups.

36:11No, man, you was rapping. You was performing. You was performing, and it was a motherfucker in the stands that wanted the mic. And Ra was telling the dude, chill. And then after he started telling him, chill, then the dude was, fuck y 'all then. and then Rodgers. What I do know is we had to dump. They threw so many glasses of Jack Daniels. You got hit by a Heineken bottle. See, whenever people talk about him capping on the joint, see, I know him personally. So I've never known him as a liar. You know what I mean? And what people got to understand. You should take the flags back. Listen, yeah. Yeah.

36:59Listen. But listen, I'm listening. Only thing, like the stories that, you know, where I wasn't there, you know what I mean? I can't confirm them. You know what I mean? All I can speak on the person that's telling the story. So I know he don't lie. He never lied to me. So when he telling my story, that's what I go off. So he get them 99.9 % right. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? We got our ass beat, man. That didn't happen. I'm telling you the truth. Everything, everything. So if you, if he called you to hit by the bottle, I asked what, man, he got his ass whooped. We played 70 games of Spade.

37:34For sure. And we was in there for hours and we were so hyped to go to this part. I don't know what the fuck happened. I just told you what happened. This shit just fucking crazy. Because when we pull up, everybody chasing us. Like, he got the drop tops out there. So it's like Ali Boombayay. Everybody, yo, yo, they, yeah. You know, because. Yo, you remember what you told me in front of my Uncle Stevie House? I want to know. Yeah, I ain't going to throw no flag on him. Look, I'm telling you. Look, if you think about all the shit that he's done in his life and the places he's been and the events he's been to and all the shit that go on in a motherfucker like his life, man, you cannot be totally accurate on everything.

38:19That shit get blurry. And then we, well, I know I drunk a lot. You know what I mean? But I remember being in front of my uncle. What else are you in Steve's house? In front of Uncle Stevie's house, I had the blue Bentley Azur drop top joint. And we were sitting out in front of the joint. And he was like, yo, Chuck, I'm going to have one of these one day. You know what I mean? And the first, I don't know what was your first color. Was it the silver one? Sky blue. Sky blue. Sky blue joint. and I remember, I don't know, I know it wasn't a video because, you know, usually in the videos, you know, because I had, when I was in Atlanta, I had everybody using my car as a video but I remember seeing you in it.

38:59It was something they was doing and you was driving the joint and man, I was watching it on TV and it fucked me up. You know what I mean? It felt so damn good because I was like, yo, like I was a part of that. Like he told me that he was going get him one of them joints. And you had the joint. You got the joint. You know, I got the picture with him. He was like Fat Joe, this guy. You remember he was big, J the Kiss. He was a little chubby. He was never like Fat Joe. He was a little plumpy. I got the fucking picture, J. A little bit big. I got the fucking picture. You can do pull-ups now with one finger and all that shit.

39:35But back then, you was eating that fried chicken, boy. That boy, boy, fucking some shit up. I got that picture. He get mad. I post that shit like every three months for no reason. and be like, me and Jada. They be like, why you posting that shit, Joe? I love when you post. Man, let me tell you. Yo, do you remember that night, though? I do. You took, no, I'm talking about when you took me, we couldn't find a hotel. You remember that? Remember that? When you told that story, yo, that was crazy. But I told it the right way. Yes, you did. But let me tell you. I don't know about, I don't think I had a game the next day, though.

40:06Yes, you did. Because we was, we was, we was smack. Listen, first of all, the owner hate me. What's his name, mama? Pat Croce. He thought I'm smoking and drinking with you and this and this and that. He told me one day we went to some Adams Sandler window, and he said, Fat Joe, man, I'm so proud of you, man. He said, I used to tell him all the time I didn't want you with Chuck. I thought you was a bad guy. I said, yo, I was the nicest guy there. What the fuck are you talking about? So he comes up. He got a game like Saturday, and he come to Jimmy's Cafe with us. He got the drop top. we get so fucked up.

40:46All right, you wasn't driving, so I was driving. I never drove drunk. I never did. Okay, he never drove drunk, right? I used to be drunk as a motherfucker. Let me explain something. Okay. Like, we was tore down. Bubba Chuck had the game the next day. But I mean, like, not regular. Like, smack! Like, walking sideways and shit. You said I threw up. And I ain't never threw up drinking. That's a flag? Yeah. Because I remember you telling the story. I ain't never threw up drinking. We pull up in my man's house in the bummiest area of the Bronx. It's the only place to go. Do you remember him? Do you still rock with him?

41:22Yes! We slept on clothes. Yo, that was crazy. His house is so bummy that they got clothes all on the fucking... Are you still cool with him? Of course, he's family. What do you want me to say? I'm telling you a true story. Yeah. We spent a night. He got a game against the Knicks the next day. I wake up, he's gone already. So I wake up, say 10 in the morning. Chuck. is gone already. I don't know how he did it. So I go to the Nick game. Shooting around, Nick. Man, if I'm keeping it a buck with you, we drank so much, I had diarrhea the next day. Like, I was fucked up. And Jimmy's too? Jimmy, I was too.

41:58That shit was crazy. And I go to the game. I'm fucked up. So I go to the game, and purposely, I'm not courtside. I'm like 10th row, like hiding. And I'm looking at him. He was in the Yalas. He dropped like 41. He was in the Yalas. And the Joe Button and see stop. You gotta stop. You think about it though. Think about it. How old was I? That recovery time was nothing. It was nothing. Do you remember the game me and you went to when Larry Johnson hit the three-point shot? You remember that shit? Me and AI was in there. We was just chilling and y 'all had just got out the playoffs. That's just not crazy.

42:33That's the way I'm calling me AI. It's unbelievable. Me and you, we went to the game. He was like, yo, Joe, you got tickets to the game? I said, let's go. He said, let's go. And they had just got eliminated the round before and that's when your man, Larry Johnson hit the shot. What niggas went crazy. I'm sitting next day. I've been looking to see if anybody got a picture that day. You know how legendary that day is? When Larry Johnson hit the three-point shot. It was the crowd. It was the way the crowd was, right? Oh, shit. I'm looking for me and AI and all the pictures, all the videos, all the things.

43:07I can't see it. You know, because now they try to say I'm capped. You know, now I got to bring the receipts out. You got all your legendary moment. We got the best commercial ever done. Hell, you talking about? In the history. In the history. In the history. Bring the flags back. Crazy as ever. They keep wanting to come over, I think. It should just be original and do something else. You got to figure something out. You got to leave that alone. You got to figure something else out. Like, they try to, like, when I do commercials and shit like that, try to get me to do the step over again. And I try to do it.

43:44I don't know how to do it because I didn't know what I was doing in the moment. Shit just happened. You know what I mean? But that commercial right there, I knew who I wanted. When they talked to me and came to me and was like, yo, we're going to do it like this. I said, oh yeah. I know who I'm going to get. That shit's so legendary. She was on the mixtapes. They was playing it in the club. They was playing it in the club. That shit was crazy. Crazy. That's a historical moment in hip hop. top five and a lot. Step over. You know he hates that. I thought I had beef with the guy. Who, A.I. hates that?

44:15He don't like that. I just love, I just love. You don't have like fake beef with all so I look. Man, I tell you, I tell you. I ice grilled him for the rest of his life. Yo, I tell you a story about dude. He crazy, man. I tell you a story about dude. The next year, man, he put me through hell though. He was, he was a pest. You know what I mean? And Shaq and Kobe was, they was fucking with him because I was his idol. So they was like, before the joint started, they was like, yo, you gonna let him go out there and have his way, you know what I mean? Because you looked up to him and this, that, and the third.

44:47And that's why we were getting at it the way we were. And I hated him. And I remember he had got, after him going to war with me like that, he was getting, he was a free agent. He was getting offers, crazy. And he went to Washington and they gave him like 5 million a year or something like that. and you know, it was like right where we left off. You know, we was going at it again in the game, going at it. Somebody was shooting a free throw and we was in the backcourt and I was talking shit to him. He talking shit to me. We ready to fight and all that. And I was like, look, motherfucker. I said, you got that little ass five million a year.

45:24You know what I mean? Because of me. And the motherfuckers did some shit I would have did. He looked at me and said, thank you. Yeah. And both of us just started laughing and we've been like this. Ever since, man. That's my motherfucking man. A lot of times, people, you go to war with, you build a certain respect. You respect them. But you go to war with certain chumps that you don't respect. You be like, yo, these guys are suckers. But when you find a formidable adversary, you turn around, you come up out of it, you find a way to be men and squash it. Sure. You got a different level of respect for them, and they got a different level of respect for you.

46:00Yeah, sure. That's cool. Who's the biggest? You would say him. who's the biggest wars? Like, what was it like, man, going to play against Kobe Bryant? You started to ask the question and that was going to be my answer. It was going to be him. You biggest wars yet. And then you asked me, what was it like? You know what I mean? So, you know, we can kill two birds with one stone. I mean, bro, wars. You know what I mean? Because I used to feel like, with me, DeMar Johnson was the same way because, you know, because how tall he was. You know what I mean? was 16, he gave me problems because he could back up off of me and just contest the jump.

46:39DJ? Yeah. You know what I mean? He could just back up off of me. Linky. Yeah, you know what I mean? He could get a hand up. You know what I mean? Anybody else. Tayshaun Prince ass motherfucker. Yeah, but Kobe too. Kobe 6 '6". And Kobe could move. He could move laterally. He was a defense. He was a dog. You know what I mean? So me and him had wars. But if you not my size, you know what I mean? especially like Marcus Banks. You're a hoop head, so you know, remember Marcus Banks? Stocky, 6 '2". You know what I mean? He used to give me problems because he could move laterally. Then if I get by him, you know, he had to strengthen.

47:16He was like, you know, Steph gave me problems. You know what I mean? You know, Cole had a lot of that in tune. He had the strength, and then he was like a defensive-minded dude. I mean, he gave me problems, but nobody really could. You know what I'm saying? Nobody really could, you know, if I had a bad night, you know, nine times out of ten, it was me. You know what I mean? But I used to go through some wars with Kobe. And it was so different. To me, it won't fail. And it showed you what type of dog he was because he would guard me, but I didn't have to guard him. Yeah. You know what I mean? I want to throw this name out to you because me being your brother and close to you and feeling...

48:02It might be biased on this because I felt like he was unfair to you. But it might have been some things you learned from him, from the harsh realities and punishments and the way it felt like he looked at you from the inside out. Because you was actually in the league and after the deal with, rest in peace, Commissioner Davis. My man. You know what I mean? My man. Like, me and that. It's me. I had beef with him for a while. I'm just like, why is he just hating? Oh, no, we had problems. But he, you know what I mean, unlike Commissioner Silver, you know what I mean, he got to know me, you know, in the aftermath of playing in the league.

48:47And he had a better understanding. Because David Stern, me and him became close later on in my career after taking time to try to understand who I really was. You know what I mean? A lot of times you get thrown off, you know what I mean, by the look and the perception. You know what I mean? The braids, the cornrows, the baggy, you know what I mean? The baggy clothes and all that. And you don't get a chance to, it's just the person. You don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I always use this analogy. You look at John Gotti. You know what I mean? He got the dapper done. He got the soups on. You know what I mean?

49:26He's smooth. But in the streets, John Gotti get busy. dangerous, man. You know what I mean? And it's that perception. You look at what's the movie? Reservoir Dogs. They robbed that jewelry store. What'd they have on? Suits. You know what I mean? Most times a woman walking down the street, she won't grab her purse if she see a clean cut guy walking down the street with a suit on. But a dude dressing like us, you know what I mean? You won't grab that joint. You know what I mean? It was like David Stern, after he took the time to get to know me, then we became close. You know what I mean? and, you know, may he rest in peace, man.

50:01He was a, I found out, because I didn't like him. But I, you know, I got to know him too, man. He was a beautiful man. You know what I mean? It was just a perception. You know, the man came to the rocker. He threw the TS chain on. David Stern came to the rocker, threw the TS chain on. He came to see the technology. He did that for safety. He was real safe. He was scared to death. He was real safe with that shit. But let me tell you something, this Adam Silver, man, I love this commissioner, man. Me too. Special guy, man, when it all went down with George Floyd and all that. Yeah. You know, he always with the people.

50:34He always understand. He always with the culture. And I'm no groupie, but every time I see him, I take the time out to be like, yo, Commish, what's up? Because I really feel him as a person and how he tries to do right by everybody. He's a player's commissioner, too. You speak to me? He's cool. Of course. Yeah. Come on. He was there. He was at the joint last night. Like he know the words that lean back. Hey, yo. No, listen, listen. When I did that bullshit-ass rap album, when I did that shit, and you know I was doing that, but I was doing that because Raw wanted me to do it. I ain't never, man, I'm so embarrassed when I hear that shit now, but we don't spend no time on that.

51:14But the most embarrassing shit was when I did the album, I had to come here to meet with him. David Stern. Yes, and Theo Rattlef came with me. He was the players representative. So he was on my team. He had to, you know, I had to, we rode in the limo all the way there. First thing he started, he was talking shit to me about because I had a Cleveland Indians jersey. I remember we was wearing the jerseys and shit back then. I had the Indians hat on. He's like, why you got on Major League Baseball stuff? You know, you're in the NBA. I'm like, what? You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying?

51:49And then out of nowhere, man, he pulled out a piece of paper. I'm sitting there. I'm looking like, yo, what the fuck is he doing? Bro, the man started reading the lyrics. Man, I wanted to crawl up under the table. You know what I mean? I was so embarrassed, man. I mean, the curse words, everything. You know, I was at them studio sessions, man. Yo, man. Yo, that shit was so embarrassing. You know what I mean? But... Yo, listen, yo, Chuck, let me tell you something, boy.

52:27we can use the money but I'm gonna keep coming back to this but we give it to a charity but I think they owe you reparations I think right now everything AI ever stood for if we tell somebody we tell somebody every single point guard in the NBA somehow always wanted to be Allen Ops or you're their idol or they want to wear number three or you know now they got cameras filming their clothes with it. Mom, you don't like that shit, mom. Because you know you went through a lot and now they dressing like him and we celebrate. No, but I took the ass whooping for it. Yeah, you did. You did the underground railroad.

53:09But the best part about it the best part about it they give me my flowers for it. You know what I mean? That's the... Yeah, but you had to crawl for them to walk and I want some money for charity. But they respect it. They respect it. That's why I love them. That's why I'm watching the game before the game come on. I'm watching the red carpet joint. You know what I mean? Like, it's a beautiful feeling, man. Let me tell you something. Every time I watch, maybe I'm biased because of you, but every time, and I love them. I always big up like Shaw, whoever could dress. You know, I'm into fashion. So I love what they doing.

53:44But every time, I'm not going to lie to you, they walk in them tunnels. I'll be like, yo, they owe AI money. They find you every game. Uh, they show, they show love for it. They, they give me my flowers for it. That's the only thing that I, that, that mattered to me. That's, that's, it was worth getting my ass whooped for it. It was worth it to see them do that, do their thing, to see them express themselves like that. Man, when you look at the game, you, everybody don't play the same. What the hell are you going to dress the same for? You know what I mean? I was 21 years old, dog. Where the fuck am I going after the game where I'm going to need a suit on?

54:17I'm going to the club. I'm going to Friday. You're going to Friday. You're going to Friday. Bucket of Corona. And I ain't never, like I said before, I ain't never wore no motherfucking suit. How about, do you got that in the documentary? You got that in the documentary Fridays? Yeah, for sure. After every single game? Ladies and gentlemen. It was legendary. I think. You had a DJ. Everybody in here been to TGIFs before. Yo, this guy had Fridays on too. At the home game in Philly, if you never went, I call it his Friday. It was so lit, they booked me there. I said they booked you on Fridays? I got booked and when it is Fridays after the game shit was off the shit was like I had to reserve tables and everything I was there every Friday what's up with the book though?

55:04it did good I mean obviously bestseller you know what I mean would it take less than a week it's just my story it's kind of it's basically like me my mom my sister my little sister it's basically our story like you know before it was any type of support system um with all of my my friends the good ones and the bad ones it was us as a family it was us like literally we all we got type shit you know what I mean it was it was my mom my mom had me when she was 15 she had me now Now, like I told her last night, she fucked the bag up because if she would have had me 10 years later, this shit, they getting paid right now.

55:53We would have tested some of that. And now me and my mom, we grew up together. Like I used to go to her basketball games when I was a little, you know, little dude. You know, we was we were real family oriented. You know what I mean? We were always tight as a unit. And it just it just show everything, man. It gives you everything. It gives you, you think you know, but you don't know. You know what I mean? And I love like having that platform to be able not to so much explain yourself or nothing. Man, just to be able to tell your story, regardless how they accept it or not. You know, they don't have to accept it the way you want them to or anything like that.

56:34I always realized in my life and coming up that, Chuck, it's going to be millions of motherfuckers that love you, and it's going to be a million motherfuckers that hate you. You know what I mean? You concentrate on the ones that love you. You know what I mean? You trying to sit around and explain yourself, you know what I mean, all the time and explain every move you make and this, that, and the third. I was saying last night, like, everybody always talking about, man, if I was AI, I would do this. Bro, you not. You know what I mean? Do something else. Yeah. I mean, if you're waiting on being AI, then you're in trouble.

57:10You're in trouble. You know what I mean? You need to concentrate on what you would do being yourself. You know what I mean? So the book wasn't about, it's like a gift, man. It's like, I'm going to show you, you know what I mean? And I don't want people to think that my story is no different from Crack growing up where he grew up at, from Jason growing up where he grew up back. All that shit was hard. You know what I mean? We ain't going to put levels on what was hard. It was hard. You know what I mean? And it's resiliency. It's like, okay, it's hard. And my percentage is low of me being able to do what I ultimately want to do.

57:49And that's just to get my family out of here. You know what I mean? And that's the goal. You know what I mean? You don't sit around and try to compare how hard it was. I won the most accolades because, you know what I mean, it was rougher in Newport News and Hampton than it was in the Bronx. You know what I mean? Like, that ain't what it is. It's like all of us to be champion for just the goal. Even if we made it from somewhere that we were silver spoon mouth, motherfuckers. You know what I mean? The goal is still hard. You still got to put in the work to do it. They gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling your time, but hold up.

58:31We only got five minutes. Mama, come over here. I want you to sit on the couch. Make this shit legendary. You know what I'm saying?

58:43Sit down, mama. You know we love you. How proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's mom's and his journey in life, you know, with Bubba Chuck and all the success and how you see him come around as a man? And it's important because you're the first mother, athlete's mother that we all fell in love with. We love you braiding this hair in the middle of the court. I got to stop you with that. That's not me. I braided his hair. That's not hair. He's supposed to know that. I braided his hair for all the, when he first wanted his hair braided. Now I did braid his hair, but his hair was coming loose in the back.

59:22And he was worried about his hair. You know, he liked to be fly. He was worried about his hair coming loose. So, you know, my sister called me and she was like, Ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me, and I don't know how to braid hair. And I was like, all you got to do is just braid his hair. He braid him just the back of it. And so when I got there, I saw my son. That cap is rubbing off on it. If it is cap, it's rubbing off. Because mommy got... Yeah, because mommy got... Something about over there. Mommy got his... Oh, flag. Mommy got the story, Ross. It is what it is. I got to be authentic.

59:58You taught me to be that way. You know what I mean? It didn't go down. It didn't go down. And then he over there calling. Now I'm Bubba Chuck. Why are you talking to mommy? Now I go to, at first I was AI. Now I turn into Bubba Chuck when he talking to mommy. But it didn't, it ain't, it ain't happened like that. But it happened, you, you, you, I got my version. You got your version. Yeah. Okay. So all of a sudden, you know, you know, your son, AI, you know, my moms ain't here, man. So we want to hear it. Like, you know, how proud are you of your son, man, and all his accomplishments and how he inspired generations of people.

1:00:34First of all, I was proud of him from the first day I saw him, you know, cause back then, yeah, back then, back then when you have a baby and I was so young, like he said, so, you know, I had to have him cesarean burp and I was asleep. So when I came, when I woke up in recovery and they brought me to, brought him to me and I was like, he's so light. And you know what I'm saying? But when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me, I said, Oh yeah, that's my baby. You know? And I checked everything on him. I checked everything on him. But what really blew my mind is first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team because I got pregnant with him.

1:01:18But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms. His arms was past his kneecap. When I laid them out like that, they went way past his kneecap. And I was like, I got a baller. And I was happy. I was happy. And so I told my family, I told my whole family, I was like, you know, I got a baller. So everybody was like looking at me like I was simple or whatever. But the thing is, from that point on, he came in my life and he was the perfect child. He was not hardheaded. He would listen to everything I said and he loved the daylights out of me. And at that point, I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died at 29 years old, malpractice.

1:02:03But anyways, the Iverson said, send her to Virginia. And that's the best thing they could have done for me. And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant playing ball in Hartford, Connecticut. And I went from there to Bethel High School playing ball. And he had a favorite cheer. And his cheer. Don't do that, Mom. Okay. We got to hear it. We got to hear it. Mama, mama. Mama, you're listening to him. Yeah, tell us the cheer. Yeah, it was his favorite cheer. Mama, mama. And it used to be. No, no. everybody be on the court and we had halftime and then everybody would sing go Bruins go and everybody would shut up and he would say shake that thing

1:02:49so that's my story but far as proud I want to tell you something that he said to me this year I said Bubba I said you know I am so proud of you I said you just make me so proud I'm proud of you. I just wanted to express that to him so he'll know it from my heart. Yeah. And he said, I'm not finished. He said, I'm not finished making you proud. And that's what he's been doing.

1:03:17With that being said, this ain't that. That ain't that. This cracking kiss makes some noise for our guests. A.I. and Mama Love.

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