Amanda Serrano on Puerto Rico’s FIRST undisputed champ, Katie Taylor fights & future of women’s boxing

2 Apr 2026 · 49 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Amanda Serrano discusses becoming Puerto Rico’s first undisputed boxing champion, her fights (especially vs. Katie Taylor), why women’s boxing still faces pay/recognition gaps, and the future as women get more media exposure (including ESPN). She also touches on judging/politics, weight classes, and her crossover into MMA.

Guest backgrounds

The episode is hosted by Joe Crack to Dawn / Jada (Joe and Jada show). Amanda Serrano is the main guest; she’s a Puerto Rican, multi-division world champion with 31 KO’s and multiple “fighter of the year” awards. She also mentions her trainer Jordan and her sister Cindy Serrano (a champion and Hall of Famer).

Key claims

Serrano says she was the first Puerto Rico undisputed champion and the first female to earn a million dollars (in a Katie Taylor fight). She argues boxing judging can be political (“don’t leave it to the judges”). She claims she’s “undefeated” at featherweight (126) and that moving up in weight is a major disadvantage.

Notable examples

Madison Square Garden headliner (sellout twice); Katie Taylor bout—she believes she won 2 of 3 and describes disputed outcomes; undisputed win vs. Erica Cruz in a toe-to-toe 10-round war; MMA record 2-0-1 by submission; mentoring Elise Soto (10-0 with 9 KOs).

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Introduction of Humor Me Podcast

1:20 to 2:04

Introduction of another podcast featuring Robert Smigel and guests.

“We have a love-hate relationship with those because you know you're getting something out of it.”

Introduction of Amanda Serrano

2:08 to 4:26

Hosts introduce Amanda Serrano, discussing her boxing achievements.

“And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to.”

Serrano's Impact on Puerto Rico

4:26 to 6:20

Amanda shares her feelings about being the first Undisputed Champion for Puerto Rico.

“It's truly an honor to be here with big bro Joe and Jada.”

Headlining at Madison Square Garden

6:20 to 7:42

Amanda discusses her historic achievement of headlining at Madison Square Garden.

“To this day, when I go back to that, well, I live in the island, but when I'm there, people are like, man, you giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement.”

Fighting Katie Taylor

7:42 to 8:34

Amanda talks about her competitive fights against Katie Taylor.

“No, Katie Taylor, she's a gold medalist, Olympic gold medalist.”

Judges and Boxing Politics

8:34 to 9:40

Discussion on the challenges of trusting judges in boxing matches.

“But listen, just to even be competitive with her and just have my name next to her is truly an honor.”

Gender Dynamics in Boxing

9:40 to 10:48

Exploration of the question of whether women can compete with men in fights.

“And it's up to three judges that determine if you win or lose.”

Fame and Public Perception

10:48 to 13:06

Amanda discusses the challenges of being a public figure and the expectations that come with it.

“But the point is, the thing about you, right?”

Future Goals and Retirement

13:06 to 14:01

Amanda shares her goals for the future and the implications of retirement from boxing.

“I mean, they say, I mean, if they know who I am, then they obviously want to press charges.”

The Spotlight on Women in Boxing

14:01 to 15:40

Discussion on the challenges faced by women in boxing and the growth of the sport.

“anybody who's in entertainment or famous, the people think they could talk to you.”
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Champion's Legacy and Unrecognized Fighters

15:40 to 17:44

Amanda Serrano talks about her sister's influence and the overlooked champions in women's boxing.

“To have women showcased on such a great network.”

Comparing Boxing and MMA Opportunities

17:44 to 19:14

Exploration of the financial and media opportunities in boxing versus MMA.

“With that being said, how do you feel about MMA and the money and the media shine and spotlight that they put on that?”

The Impact of Money in Sports

19:14 to 21:08

Discussion on how financial struggles shape athletes' decisions and careers.

“I was making more money than having a championship fight in boxing.”

Staying True in the Industry

21:08 to 22:28

Insights on loyalty, trust, and the struggles in the entertainment industry.

“And let me tell you something, man, I noticed about, all right, We're going to keep focused.”

Amanda Serrano on Training Music and Fighting Style

30:41 to 33:34

Amanda discusses her training music preferences and her approach to boxing.

“And do you listen to different music when you're training for MMA and we training for a fight.”

The Importance of Entertaining Fans in Boxing

33:35 to 36:22

Amanda emphasizes the importance of entertaining fans during fights.

“And for it to be undisputed, something first coming out of Puerto Rico, I wanted to be that fight.”

Women's Boxing and the Path Forward

36:23 to 38:40

Amanda discusses the struggles and progress of women in boxing.

“You got to say the lost is with the way.”

Mentoring Young Female Boxers

38:41 to 41:46

Amanda talks about mentoring young female boxers and her own journey.

“who's some of the other young up and coming female boxers you think who's the girl you mentoring?”

Sneaker Culture in Boxing

41:47 to 42:00

The hosts discuss sneaker culture and Amanda's connection to Jordans.

“even going to the elevator to go see sneakers.”

The Value of Sneaker Collecting

42:00 to 43:55

Discover the reasons behind sneaker collecting and its potential value.

“And let me tell you something about collecting sneakers, just buying sneakers.”

Struggles of Weight Management in Boxing

43:55 to 46:43

Learn about the challenges fighters face with weight management and divisions.

“Yeah, lucky I never had to, I never lost anything on the scale.”

The Business of Boxing and Earnings

46:43 to 48:42

Gain insights into the financial aspects and sacrifices in a boxing career.

“And to me, that's a bigger accomplishment than any other thing because it's not easy going up and down in weight, and especially winning in higher weights where I feel like I'm alone.”

Legacy and Empowering Future Generations

48:42 to 53:50

Explore the importance of legacy in sports and empowering women in boxing.

“Because we ain't never see you booed up or nothing like this.”
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2:36Yeah, yeah, what up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack to Dawn. Know who it is, your boy Jada. Know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we ain't gonna stop. Talk slow for him. We ain't going to stop destroying y 'all. At the rapidest pace you ever seen in this space. I ain't never seen no shit like that. Get ahead. Before ever in history. Now you talking my shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, kiss. When you think of today's guest, you think of the real deal. You think of Dominic. Female. You hear me? You think a dominant female. Puerto Rican. South Park. You think of 31 KO's.

3:38You think of multiple unified champions. You think of multi-division championships. five-time WBAN WBAN fighter of the year. Damn. That can't be easy. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guests. I like that. Amanda, the real deal. I love it. Woo! Thank you. That sounds amazing. You can keep going and going and going. Coming out of your mouth, your voice. I loved it. Our intros is made for you to say that. That's why I know I did a good job. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's truly an honor to be here with big bro Joe and Jada. Watch your show. Love it to death.

4:35Always cheering you on and super proud of both of you guys. You feel... Thank you. Thank you. But it's like you're like an extended cousin on this show. We talk about you. I know. You've probably been mentioned in at least 25, 30 of our show. I know. sometimes I see it I'm like wow Joe still remembers me come on it ain't too many like you you know we talk about Puerto Rico we talk about so many championship boxes um and then you being a female because it I don't care in whatever perspective whatever game whatever job whatever everything they always it's always harder for a female no matter what I don't care what people say now.

5:22Women are becoming bosses and everything, but still, but when I see them talk about the legendary boxes now, they giving it up to you. Puerto Rico, the homeland is saying, no, you know, they got to face Trinidad. You were afraid of all of all the legends of all. And you're on there. Yeah. Like, how does that feel? That is so surreal. To be acknowledged like that. So surreal, you know, being next to those big names coming from a small island. But we have so many great champions, big champions. It's truly an honor. And man, I wanted to give back to Puerto Rico, something that we never had. And that was becoming Undisputed Champion.

6:08And I did that. I became the first Undisputed Champion for Puerto Rico because we needed something. We needed to have something over everybody else. and I'm glad I gave that to them. To this day, when I go back to that, well, I live in the island, but when I'm there, people are like, man, you giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement. And I'm like, for real, when I fall on the big stage, they tell me that the streets are empty. When my fight is on, the streets are empty. And that's something I get goosebumps just thinking about it. I get emotional because like, wow, A little girl from Bushwick that grew up in Bushwick, but born in Puerto Rico.

6:50But I stood true to my roots, my Puerto Rican roots. And they love me. And I'm so glad that I'm able to give them something back. Fine. That's great. How did it feel to be the first female to headline a fight at Madison Square Garden? Man, that was something I never thought would happen. It wasn't in the picture. It wasn't something that us girls growing up in the sport or starting the sport, we had something to, we see men headlining. We saw like me as a Puerto Rican, I saw Tito, Miguel Cotto. But it never was a female doing that. So I never pictured that that would happen for a female. But to do that, it was something amazing.

7:39It was an amazing night to sell it out. Not once, but twice. Shut up the girl you fought. Because she ain't no joke either. No, Katie Taylor, she's a gold medalist, Olympic gold medalist. She's pound for pound. It's me, her, and Clarissa were all pound for pound with three on the list. Always, always. Listen, people don't know. I only had nine amateur fights. I only fought. I started in 2007. I was in Golden Gloves in 2008. That was my last fight as an amateur. I never left New York. So to be in there with an amazing, talented woman, she had over 200 wins as an amateur. She started when she was five.

8:19I started when I was 18. So to be in the talks with someone like that, to be competitive with someone like that, you know, some people say that I won. I believe I won two out of three fights. I think you won. But listen, just to even be competitive with her and just have my name next to her is truly an honor. and she was a great champion in and out the ring. It would be hard for me to be like a professional boxer is when I know I won. And imagine you did the versus and they said, and the winner is, and you know, you said, you pussy your neighbors, you did all that shit and they give it to somebody else.

9:05This, you know, boxers, like Amanda, definitely the first fight 1 billion percent, it was her fight. The second one, I think it was a lot clearer. The sport of boxing, right? We've seen too many times where we thought somebody won and then they give it to somebody else. That got to be like a... No, that hurts. There's politics in everything. Yes, 100%. We know that. I've noticed that too. Oh, yeah. Because you train so hard and to have it, obviously that whole saying is don't leave it to the judges. Yes, you can't leave it to the judges because no matter where you're going, You have three judges.

9:41You put it on the line. You're going out there. You're fighting. You're getting punched. And it's up to three judges that determine if you win or lose. And depending on their opinion, sometimes they like boxers. Sometimes they like brawlers. Depending on what they like, they're going to go towards that person. I used to see this one referee. You definitely know who he is. This black dude back in the day, every time he reffed, I knew some bullshit was going on. Every fucking time. He came up in that ring. And the referee, I'd be like, oh, shit, we got this dude. He was in on the fucking... He was betting hard rock bets a long time ago, bro.

10:22I'm fucking telling you, before this shit invented, he was... Every time he was in the ring, I knew some bullshit. He betted before it was invented. Bro, every fucking time I watched this guy in the ring, I saw some bullshit about to happen. He even jerked somebody. Somebody stood on the floor too long. He took too long to count. This guy was in on bullshit like every fight. Like, I'd be like, yo, this guy right here, you know, I mean, it's human. It's whatever. But the point is, the thing about you, right? Could you clear a myth that I always wondered about? Could a woman beat a man up? Listen.

11:01Somebody fuck with you right now, dude on the corner. Yo, mamita. Come here being very disrespectful. Could you beat the shit out of him? If it's one of those guys, yes. If it's not a train, ask me, oh, I think I can handle myself. Like one-on-one, you might put the pain on one of these guys at Bushwick in the corner. Definitely gonna be competitive. Because sometimes I see the girls fight, I be like, yo, by the way, they might fuck you up. Like in real life. Definitely. I love saying like, I'm walking down the street and I'm like, only if these guys, I look at these guys, I only think they know, I just won't punch, I can just.

11:36I was trying to, listen, let me tell you something. I'm at the versus watching him and the dip set. And I'm there with my longa Zandias. I'm with three championship boxes and some dudes try to front and take their chair. And I'm like, I'm actually, they probably thought fat Joe was, you was there, right? Feeb. I bet they probably thought Joe crack was on bullshit. I was like trying to protect them. literally that they know if these guys pound them out and they the boxers happen to be the nicest guys in the world. They're like, no, excuse me, these are tickets, this, this, that dude, nah, son y 'all gotta give up these seats, right or wrong?

12:22I said, yo, you know what, man? Suppose they are your seats, man. Let's say they are. We keeping them shits anyway. Fuck you wanna do, man. Y 'all talking shit. Yo, they got the fuck up out of it, but I did them a favor. You saved them? Yo, these guys were three champions, bro. If they would have let them fist fly, them dudes was underneath the seats. I don't think they could do that, though. You can't just beat up. You can't just beat up. Listen, Mike Tyson fucked everybody. They can't touch them. Listen, I don't know about that. What's the rules with that? I never had a street fight. I've only fought in the ring.

12:58See, that's the grace of God, because people know if you can't... I've been lucky in blood. Hopefully I don't have to. Hopefully I don't have to. Nah, I can't do it. Nah, come on. Hopefully I don't have to. I mean, they say, I mean, if they know who I am, then they obviously want to press charges. Provoke you. Yeah, they're going to sue. They're trying to get some money. Trying to get some money. But I'm a nice girl. Your man, Mike Tyson, definitely picked about$50 million in lawsuits. I swear to God. Like, every time I turned around, I was like, Mike Tyson beat somebody up in Brooklyn. The guy won$2 million.

13:31Mike Tyson beat somebody, like, when we was growing up. What about that guy beat up on the airplane? he got away with that one because the guy was saying the R, the N word with the R and all that like you know I got on a plane with the pilot for now he was like oh my god you're my second celebrity, you know I was the pilot when Mike Tyson beat up the guy he said the guy deserved it yeah I was just gonna say that everybody knew oh he fucking with Mike too much and you know that's something that happens with anybody who's in entertainment or famous, the people think they could talk to you. Like, they feel like I bought your CD.

14:10I could tell you whatever the fuck I want to tell you. Listen, I'm not big as you guys, but I'm getting that too. And I'm like, okay, thank God I'm always with Jordan. He's my manager, my brother. So he's always, and he's pretty big. So he's always making sure. Hold on, hold on. Robert, happy birthday, my brother. Happy birthday, happy birthday to Jordan. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, speaking of how with all of that stuff, you just said we got to rewind that sheet. You know what kind of deal she got? She got a lifetime deal. Then she becomes the chair. Then she runs the front office when she retired.

14:45That's the incredible y 'all. You have to think about after you retire. Most likely, this is my last year. I'm going for the knockout goal. Christy Martin has 32 knockouts. So she's had it over 20 years. So I'm 31. I'm like, one more to tie you to the breakers. So I'm like, it would be silly of me just to hang it up before I do it. So it's right there. I'm already going to hard rock bets. Yeah, yep. I know you're going to do it. It's damn out of bio to score 83.

15:19But definitely. And so you have to start thinking about when I retire. And that's 100%. I'm all about my women, women empowerment. And I want to see these women grow. I want to see the sport of boxing grow, continue to grow. We're doing amazing things. We just announced that we signed with BSPN. That was something that's a big deal for us. To have women showcased on such a great network. So the whole world can see that so many talented champions out there. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see the sport grow. It's great that you've shone the light on it and taking it to another level. Like we just came back from NASCAR.

15:58I guess that's where you get the racing shirt from and all that. It looks good. It looks good. Yo, beloved, you caught... Stay from NASCAR. Nah, yo, well, it looked like... It looked like you were... They ain't got this at NASCAR. They ain't got this at NASCAR. Yo, beloved. Yo, but I'm saying, we learned about an African-American driver in like the 60s. Back in the days, yeah. He was winning that shit, but we never knew... We tried to smuggle our history. Yeah, that was crazy his family came up. His son and his grandson. you know, from Virginia. So it was like, it was like, you know, sometimes, so there's, who are great champions that came before you but didn't get the spotlight in women's boxing?

16:44Well, I mean, you know, everyone knows Layla Ali, Christy Martin. I mean, they had that spotlight at the time, but it still wasn't as big as it's gotten now. But look, my sister, Cindy Serrano, not too many people know, she's the one who inspired me to get into the sport. She was a champion as well. She just retired. She became a Hall of Famer for New York. And she's been working on the big one, which she definitely will be going on. But at the time, she wasn't getting the pay or recognition. I'm super blessed that now that I got lots of money, that I can take care of her and give everything back to her.

17:20Well, not everything, but give it back to her because she opened the doors for me. But there's a lot of champions. There's a couple of Puerto Rican champions. These girls, like Melissa Hernandez, they were great champions, great fighters, but they didn't get that spotlight. And I'm glad that now it's changing a little bit. I'm part of a great company MVP that's helping the women grow. Beautiful. With that being said, how do you feel about MMA and the money and the media shine and spotlight that they put on that? Well, just in case you didn't know, I am on the feet in MMA. I'm going to make some noise for that.

17:59Well, I did put, I did say dominant. I'm 2-0-1 in MMA. Two by submission, not by knockout. So that's something I'm proud of. Submission is incredible. Yes, yes, I love it. But I actually went to MMA because at the time my boxing contract, I was already a five or six division world champion. and I was getting my boxing contract was, excuse my language, but it was shit. We know about shitty contracts. It was peanuts. I spoke to the lady the other day that owns the Liberty. It's an Asian lady. Oh, Joe Si's wife. Her husband owns the net. And she owns the Liberty. I was fighting for the girls for the higher pay and all that.

18:49She's down with it, but you know. Everybody got to be down with it. Yeah, so she was telling me And I was just like, yo, there's no way the sport could be so big. And these girls got to struggle to get paid. Like, all that shit is unfit. No, it is. And then I saw how MMA was treating the women with more respect, more spotlight, more money. And that's why I decided to go to MMA. And actually, my MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract. So I'm like, it just didn't make sense. And it was my pro debut. I was making more money than having a championship fight in boxing. It's crazy. So it was silly.

19:22It's silly for me. But then I guess boxing got a little jealous and they wanted me back. So then they stay up the money. So that's what you need to do. You need to, yeah, bargain, negotiate yourself. If you don't love me, I'm going to go somewhere else. You need to get these bidding wars going on out here, man. You know what I mean? You got to respect the value. You know what's crazy is sometimes the reverse happens, right? So I remember one time I told these guys, yo, you know, I don't want to be on this record label no more. And it was like, all right, fine. Sign right here. Not a problem. I was like, damn.

19:55I thought they gave a fuck. They were like, you can leave now, Joe. Not a problem. Like, see you later. I was like, oh. Don't let the door not hit you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. But I bet they regret it. Oh, big time. Every time I see them, they tell me that shit. It's been 30 years. They be like, yo, Joe, we should have never let you go. Should have been robbing you forever. Ain't that some bullshit? Yeah. When it falls money everywhere, you're getting robbed everywhere. So it's unfortunate. You never stop getting robbed. I know. So, you know, I've got my heart broken. One thing about money, it'll turn honest people back.

20:44Like, you know what I'm saying? when you give someone too much control of your money and so much trust. And me, believe it or not, I got fucked so many times in my life, paused, that I still trust. Yeah. You know, it's just in my nature to trust. I just let you, what they say, you give you enough rope, you hang yourself, and then I'm just like, all right, that's it. Once I know, you're done for life. And let me tell you something, man, I noticed about, all right, We're going to keep focused. But one thing is this. Guys, when you as a member of a team and you're no longer a member of the team, you did something.

21:30And I'm not talking about Fat Joe and Terror Squad. I'm talking about anybody. Because I see guys who used to be down with somebody. Now their new profession is going around YouTube doing these interviews talking about who they used to be or who they was and niggas 55, 60 years old talking about how they held it down in junior high. Who? No, no. When you're not down, that's how you start the shit. That's how you start the shit. Then I get the beef with everybody in the dirty section. I'm not talking about me. I'm just saying, listen, guys, there's a rule to the streets. There's always been a rule.

22:12if you're not down no more we will never mention you again when we're sitting in the car we don't even call you by your name if you ever come up and call scrams or fams or you don't you are nameless forever and it doesn't have nothing I'm not talking about me I watched an interview on YouTube this morning where the guy was like yo they don't mention me how about you're not down and you're telling stories about 40 years ago when you was down. You're not even, like, what are you? Did you have, do you get that? Like, you're from Bushwick. You're in Puerto Rico. You definitely must have been up on Chinchero or something.

22:55Like, they had to, like, you had to get somebody who was cool with you before, ain't cool with you. You ain't got that? I mean, that never ends. But lucky I've been around, my family have been blessed. So they've always kept me in check. I'm not a Bo Chinchera. I don't go out there in Gaza. That's not what I do. Obviously, you see me on social media. You see me in my press conferences. I'm not the person. I'm not the loud person. I do everything I have to do. I handle my business in the ring or in the cage. And I go out there and I be the best version of myself, the best me. So I do my talking with my hands in the ring.

23:27Yeah, you know, hip-hop is different, though, bro. Like, hip-hop is fucking crazy. Like, I watch these people. You ain't hang out with the person in 30 years or 20 years. It's like, yo, this shit is insanity to me. I don't know. I don't understand. But it's not everybody with my same last name were related with cousins. Yeah. It's not even, if you're a celebrity, it's always, it's going to happen. People are going to talk stuff if you're doing good, if you're doing bad. And they always. Yeah, but what I keep seeing these same guys say is why they don't mention me. Who? Every dude. You want one?

24:11You don't want one. Don't do that. Don't do that. No, I'm interested. Listen, don't do that. You don't want one. I want to hear one. He wants one. Because these guys, they love that shit. They love that shit. You can't give it to them. No, I'm just sitting there looking at some other guy who allegedly was down with some other guys. And he's like, yo, they don't mention me. When I see them tell the story, how about, listen, breaking news headline. You're not down anymore, my nigga. But if you mention the name. I even see that with the rats and the mafia. Like, the rats. Yeah. Once a gangsta. No, papo, you told.

24:54Like, you got to go over there. It's a never section. Go that way. No, no, it's a never section in jail. You can't be with the real guys. I don't give a fuck. How many niggas you told? You out of any sense. You're on that other side. Yeah. You can't be here. You know? And so that's another thing, right? Anyway, let's leave that up. Let's go.

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30:40What kind of music do you listen to when you're training? And do you listen to different music when you're training for MMA and we training for a fight. No, my music is reggaeton and some rap. It depends on the person, the rapper that I... Big time. That gets me going, especially my body. You just staying there. I don't want to say like a man, but damn, you tough, man. You in there and I watch pause from the back. You just be like, boom, boom, like a fucking machine, like Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. And you, the reason why you're so successful is you give everybody a great show. Yeah, that's right.

31:27That's one of the worst things. When we watch a fight, we get hyped for a fight and they're scared for 12 rounds. They're running around wrestling. They're scared to throw. You go up in there and you sacrifice everything. That's one thing. You're never going to see that from me. I'm an entertainer first. And I want to go in there. You guys are spending your money. to come see me or you, your time is valuable as well. So you're spending your time watching me fight. I want you guys to leave and say, my God, that was a fight. I don't, look, I spent a lot of money on my outfits, but I don't mind them getting dirty or bloody.

32:04It's funny because I am the complete opposite of what you see in that ring. I'm like, I'm a sucker outside of the ring. I'm a cry baby. I don't know, once I go through those ropes, I'm a different person. I'm the real deal in those ropes. and that's what you're going to see. And now with this record that I'm trying to break, you're going to continue to see that because I have to get those knockouts because I need to break that record. So that's what I want to say, guys. Those knockouts soon come. Those knockouts. I even see you sometimes in the crowd as a fan being frustrated. You be looking at fights and I see you see boxes, you know, and they ain't putting in that work.

32:43And I see you sometimes. I watch on TV or I get to fight and I see Amanda in the crowd. And I'm like, she's like, man, you better fuck this dude up. I'm kind of biased because I fight the way I like to watch fights. I love to go in there, you know, you're putting everything on the line, yes. But you want to go out there and put a show. Like, I want to see that. I want to see one get knocked down, get up and knock the other one down. Like, actually, that's like a dream fight for me. Like, I get knocked down and I get back up and I knock the girl down and we go back and forth. Obviously, I win. But, you know, when I became undisputed champion, I fought a Mexican, Erica Cruz.

33:24This girl, she's obviously a Mexican fighter. But I always said, I want to fight where we're just going back and forth, back and forth. I saw Jordan, my trainer, and he was like, you're nuts. I said, no, that's the fight I want. And for it to be undisputed, something first coming out of Puerto Rico, I wanted to be that fight. I could have boxed that girl easily. Like, she was just flat-footed and come forward. Like, I could have outboxed her easily. I said, no. I'm going to go there toe-to-toe with that girl. And I would show Boricua, Puerto Rico, and Mexican fighters, they bring the best out of each other.

33:58And I did. It was a 10-round war. We was both bloody. And I became undisputed that night. And my outfit was all bloody down to my sneakers. But people remember. People remember that. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite boxers of all time was Diego Corrales. Yeah. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. He was on that type of time. Oh. Slug out. Chiro Gatti. Yeah. These are guys that they hit the floor and they get back up and knock you out. Then you knock them out again and they knock you out. And that's the real shit. Now everything's a business. Now these people, they babysit. They're undefeated records.

34:36They don't want to take a chance. Listen, I have four losses now on my record. But listen, I'm still number one, one of the pound-for-pound best female fighters. People love to see me fight because I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first. And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. So maybe if they hit hard, I'll be a little like keep my hand up. But no. Shout out to Edgar. Yeah, I get some of you and him spar when y 'all was kids. Yeah. He said he's a juke? He said he's a juke? Yeah, he said you woke him up.

35:13He said, bam. He was like, oh, my God. I better watch it with this girl. This girl, you lit him up. Yeah, he knows. He knows. But I can't spar him now. You crazy? He will destroy me. I always said to myself, I said to myself, because I don't sleep on nobody. You know, I almost got beat up by Roy Jones one time. you can't be a great storyteller if you don't tell the wins and losses you gotta say the truth when Roy Jones came to me he was gonna knock me out I was grabbing his wrist like this like champ don't knock me out champ chill I knew what he was gonna do and it wasn't even gonna he ain't had to go like this he just bong real quick he'd have put me out I gotta you know And so I always watched.

36:02And I said, damn, man, you know what? A female could knock a dude out. I don't care. Like, is there like, like, let me leave that one alone. You think a female boxer ever knocked her husband out, like caught him cheating or some wild shit? They in the house beefing. I'm pretty sure. And put him out, right? Ain't nobody bragging about that shit, right? Gotta say the lost is with the. What? You got to say the lost is with the way. I don't think nobody. I don't think motherfucker like, yo, she was Layla Ali, though. She put me out the bus. She smoked. Yo. But you got to be careful. You know, in hip hop, we almost like boxers.

36:44We got to have an undefeated record. The minute you on camera getting your ass whooped, you don't like that rapper no more. It's over. Of course. You ever knew that? Yeah, I never got my ass whooped. All right. No, my thing is I had beef for 50 Cent for six years and I knew wherever I seen him, we was going to fight or worse. Every day I knew I could be on Worldstar. He might be on Worldstar. That's a different type of waking up in the morning, right? That's a different kind of Christmas. And I'm Fat Joe. He cocked in you, 50 Cent. I'm like, yo, man, wherever I see him, this shit got to get, what do you want to do?

37:25Yo, James, we putting you on the fucking couch next show, James. Cock diesel, they don't like that. They don't like that? That's the flag? These people crazy out here. What's the one thing you want new fans to understand about female boxing? Listen, we're here. We put in the work just like the men do. We sacrificing our lives, our brain, our bodies. And we want to entertain you guys. We want to go out there and we want to be able to make some money like the men. We want to be able to showcase our skills like the men. But now, little by little, I'm so glad that I opened a lot of doors for these women.

38:09You know, because of me, MVP, they took a chance with a woman. They weren't sure what women can do. I went out and I proved that women are marketable. We can fight. We're champions. We're talented. so now I have a whole my whole roster is over 40 women and I'm great women I love that girl Bum Gardner she gets busy huh? she's part of the team, she's a beautiful girl in and out the ring you know she does her thing and you know the future is bright for her and all the girls on the team who's some of the other young up and coming female boxers you think who's the girl you mentoring? yeah I managed to, Elise Soto she's 20 years old, she's 10 and 0 with 9 knockouts She reminds me a lot of myself.

38:53You said it before. She was probably never even had a fight. You was saying, yo, she going to be a champ. Yeah, I spar with her. I be putting her beats on. She's still coming back. I'm like, whoa. I think it's the age. I think it's the age. Yo, man, I wish you could live forever, man. I wish you could be 60 beating their asses, man. Oh, my God. I wish, too. Amanda, boy, let me tell you, boy, she don't play that shit, man. And, yo, you know she loves sneakers. She took it easy today on us with this. Yeah, I'm trying to be like big bro here. You know, I had to show the room. She came to the house and store the collection and all that.

39:29Yeah, I was like. I put Jordan and them on to you. Like, I've been told them. I was like, yo, Reggie, this the girl. She fights Jordans. Yeah, but you need to give them another call. Yeah, you got a broken ass, man. We was with them last. I swear to God, I try to make it happen. Reg, make it happen, Reg. Tell me about it. Yo, Reg, I got to give her that shit. like do a fucking P.E. with her something like she deserves it you be fighting in was that legal? Well it is now if it wasn't I made it She going to ring with Jordan 2019 I started my first time wearing you know what's so funny it was that house a beautiful thing as a kid I was never poor I was never I had a beautiful family my dad always worked to make sure we had food on the table and a roof over our head so my first pair of Jordans was in 2019 the Concours 11 and that was the first time that I fought with them was that same sneaker that I fought was I made his three became a seven division world champion in 35 seconds with those sneakers on so it's like cool like my first pair of Jordans I wore them in a fight you're getting the Jordan deal man Jordan family reach out to our people and do the right thing I told them already you know I've been showing them footage of her like I'm like look she walks in the ring with the Jordan just the one Jordan's that you buy in the store nah not custom let me tell you something me and this guy we have a serious problem with sneakers like the first thing we did we seen each other he was like yo I caught these I caught those you heard these are coming out these are over here we went to LA and lost our mind all star weekend he's in one store I'm in one store he's in one store I'm in one store he's in one store and we just getting sneakers we buying sneakers I know I love watching you guys do it listen I'm definitely not a sneaker head I have lots I just love sneakers and I've been ever since that ever since 2019 I just been into them into Jordans and now I'm going over to Adidas New Balance but your collection is amazing like it's like pound for pound number one number one and I'm like even going to the elevator to go see sneakers.

41:51Purple rain. Purple rain. I think one sneaker is probably not even close to my whole collection that I have. Yeah, but you want to know why? It's the love. And let me tell you something about collecting sneakers, just buying sneakers. You never know in the future that sneaker might turn into something worth$10 ,000, $20 ,000. There's plenty of sneakers I've bought that we bought them when they first came out. And four years later, they were$7 ,000,$10 ,000. Like, it'd just be like a jewel that everybody want to get their hands on. You need to take me shopping one day. I need to get a couple of jewels for retirement.

42:38I got you. That's too easy. You definitely inspire me. You need them pink Air Max. They just came out for the girls. The pink Air Max. you need them Air Max 95 the pink joints came out for the girls they ain't come out for the well I got them oh bragging I got them yesterday you got them in girl size they only come out in girl size damn how I get them I got them they got girls with feet that's your size that's true that's great but I get so upset they did these I thought were gonna be girls and they came out for guys and I get so upset because y 'all get the fly colors. The women get the flyest colors.

43:19I go and they be like, nah, it's for girls. I'm like, yo, my man. Like, why can't I get them? Guys with smaller feet, they lucky. Like, what's mayor? Eight and a half, nine? No, it used to be eight, nine, or nine and a half. Now you lost weight. Your feet lost weight. Your feet lost weight. You know your feet lose weight. Not from a nine and a half to an eight and a half. Your feet lose weight. What kind of feet did he have? How hard is that when I see fighters getting ready to get weighed in and all that, and they got to lose an extra two, three pounds? Yeah, lucky I never had to, I never lost anything on the scale.

44:01I never lost any of my titles. I've always come in professional. I always make sure I do what I have to do. How hard is that? But it's very hard. And it's funny, me going up in division is a lot harder than me losing weight. I'm a small girl. I went down to, I won a title at 115. But going up to like 135, 140, that's a little rough for me because I walk around at 135. And once I start training, the weight just comes off so easy. And I have to go after the gym, stuff my face and eat. And it's just... Or you got to do the reversal. Yes, you got to work out that eat. You got to work out that eat.

44:35Yeah, and to me that's hard because when you feel so stuffed and sluggish, you don't perform the same way. And you feel heavy. Like, I feel my best at featherweight, 126. And that's where I am the champion, unified champion. So to me, I'm undefeated at featherweight at 126. But when I go up, I'm taking chances. Those girls are going up as well. They'll drop down and they'll make the way. But then they're shooting back up after the way. Something I never understood, right? And you can let me know because this is your life, right? obviously you can't take a 350 pound guy to fight a 150 pound fight but is it really make a difference four pounds and five pounds when they like yo i gotta go up five pounds to come down it does because listen from 126 to 135 i don't know i'm not a boxer but what they do they they're straining themselves they're making that weight the day of the weigh-in they make whatever weight they have to make.

45:34But then after that, you start eating, you start bulking up, you start, you get all that weight back. So, okay. When I fought Katie Taylor, the, the fight was at, the first time was at 135. I weighed in what, 133, 133. She weighed in 134, but I'm a natural featherweight. So the night that we checked in, like we did the mock weigh-in, I was 132. I lost a pound from, from the weigh-in to, she went on the scale. She was about 140 something, right? 155. Damn. So she goes up. So the night of the fight, and that's like three. And then she eats three or four more meals. So the night of the fight, I'm going in there fighting a girl, 155 pounds, while I'm 133 pounds.

46:21Wow. So it does make a difference. I like that part of it. That's crazy. Yeah. So that's why I always say I'm the best. I'm the queen of featherweight. It's hard. That's where I feel my best at. Every time I go up, I'm taking a chance. And not too many people, not too many girls or men are taking those chances or making those sacrifices to be great. You know, I'm the first and only seven-division world champion. And to me, that's a bigger accomplishment than any other thing because it's not easy going up and down in weight, and especially winning in higher weights where I feel like I'm alone. Well, it definitely says you never duck nobody because, you know, somebody going seven divisions and winning.

47:02That's another thing. You know what I'm saying about boxers? Where boxers, you know, duck other people. You know, maybe I don't know the game, but when I was a kid, you heard it. Muhammad Ali was fighting everybody. You know, the boxers was fighting people back in the day. No, I'm telling you, now it's a business. Like, even for me, now, at this part of my career, like, I'm towards the end. And Joe, you know, I fought in the beginning of my career for peanuts. Like, there was championship fights. Like, I tied with Miguel Cotto becoming a four-division world champion for, what,$4 ,000? What's the lowest bag?

47:40$4 ,000? No, that's not the lowest. Oh,$1 ,500. $1 ,500 for a world title. $1 ,500 for a world title. And you have to remember that these sanctioning fees, they take a percentage. the trainer fees the cut man all that so by the time I'm looking at my account I got like$250 you remember Wu-Tang Wu-Tang I used to do shows with Wu-Tang we used to get$500 a show they had 13 dudes breaking off$500 I'm over here with$500 like this shit was crazy I was like yo how are these guys gonna make it like this shit it ain't nothing but McDonald's after that show yeah But now, lucky I can eat at expensive restaurants.

48:27Before I couldn't, exactly. Before I had to go to the dollar menu. But it's amazing how it became like full circle. So now that I'm in this part of my career, I can take it into business. But we ever see you in a relationship? Because we ain't never see you booed up or nothing like this. You ain't never doing that? When I retire, Joe, yeah. Or when you retire, you might get booed up, hit a little red carpet. Of course. Of course. I mean. What did I say wrong? I didn't say anything. No, because she's been so dedicated. That's the one thing. It takes dedication in her field of. Greatness requires sacrifice.

49:06I sacrificed my life to this part. I get it. And obviously, I think it's worked. Look where I'm at right now. I'm on the Don't Jada show. That's right. I'm not. No. It's the real deal talking to y 'all. It's at your pace. if you never want to be in it, that's on you. But I'm just saying. I've seen it. I've been around it. And even as a younger teenager, being in the gym, watching these men and they having girlfriends and they being stressed out. Even my sister and Jordan, her husband, her husband is her trainer, was our trainer. It is our trainer. And sometimes they will have arguments and my sister would be upset or, you know, one.

49:45I had a friend that was a boxer. He had a girlfriend. Yeah. I've seen it it drives me nuts so listen the fucking training camp to come back in town boxing boxing brings me all the same emotions I'm happy I'm sad I'm crying I'm excited so I think when I retire then I'll have time for myself I'll be able to ride along in the sunset maybe with a boo thing a little dumb maybe maybe you'll be eating a coconut on the beach drinking a drink a piña colada Eat the coconut on the beach. It ain't nothing like that. MVP. MVP women boxing is coming on ESPN. When it starts. So excited. It starts. Well, the debut starts April 5th or 6th.

50:34I'm not sure in the UK. But that's on Sky Sports. But it's going to be on the ESPN app. But the first official on ESPN is April 17th at the Garden. and that's where Alicia Baumgarten are headlining, defending her titles, so I'm super excited for her. Another question I just thought about, right? Aren't you like the highest paid female boxer ever for a fight? I am. I am. I'm the first. The highest paid ever!

51:08It's truly an honor. Listen, I was the first female to get a million dollars and i say the first because it was a katie taylor fight so my team came back to me and said we're going to give you a million dollars we were so excited so happy so proud of that accomplishment that my manager jordan said we have to announce this because we have to show women that we can do it we broke that barrier we broke that ceiling let's do it so when jordan did that katie taylor was like wait wait wait a minute how much you're getting because she wasn't getting that much no She wasn't getting that much. So her team had to go, yeah, she was a champion.

51:46I was a contender. But so then her team was like, okay, we'll give you the meal. So we both end up getting a meal that fight that night. That was April. I mean, some people claim that they're the first, but in my calculations, in my calendar, April comes before October. It don't even matter. It don't even matter. But anyway. Everybody knows it's solid. But I'm so proud. It's real. I'm so proud of that moment. And look, we're getting not, that wasn't my only fight where I made a million. I made millions. I'm a multi-millionaire, and I'm so proud to say that. You know, you know what's crazy is, or what's not crazy, but you know what's the biggest blessing, and I think me and Feeve was talking about this.

52:37what Allah says feed Allah says feeding somebody is the biggest thing you can do while you on earth so not only you didn't just say this is for me I want all the money I want all of this you opened up the lane for other females to come after you to eat and not get taken so they don't have to get paid$1 ,500 for their championship and that is big and so I believe that that's the type of stuff you get judged with. Because when you die, they're not going to say, damn, Fadjo was looking fly as hell on this shit. They're going to say, yo, he fed some people, man. He opened the doors for some people.

53:19He took care of his people, his community. That's where it's at, man. And so that's beautiful that you just didn't want to say, yo, I want to be the only, you know, there's people like that. I want to be the only one to eat. I don't want nobody to eat. I want to be that. and so that's commendable that you're opening the doors for the women. That's something I can't do. I love, I'm a ladies lady. I love empowering women. They always say empowered women empower women and that's what I'm going to continue to do and I love it and I love seeing these girls grow. Like I have another girl, Crystal Rosado, Puerto Rican girl.

53:54She, for her pro debut, she made more money than I did at my championship level. So just to see that and like, man, look what, Look how far we've come. Look what I'm able to give to these young ladies. That's a beautiful thing. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking, kids. Make some noise for the real deal. Amanda Serrano. Boom. Boom. Boom.

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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Amanda Serrano, the first undisputed champion from Puerto Rico and the highest-paid female boxer in history. Serrano breaks down what it means to be acknowledged alongside Tito Trinidad, Miguel Cotto, and the other Puerto Rican legends, tells Joe and Jada about headlining Madison Square Garden not once but twice, discusses the politics of the judges' scorecards in her Katie Taylor fights, and chops it up about why she crossed over to MMA when her boxing contracts were paying peanuts. She discusses being the first female boxer to earn a million dollars for a fight and how that moment forced Katie Taylor's team to match the number, talks about her mission to grow women's boxing through Jake Paul’s Most Valuable Promotions and their upcoming ESPN deal.

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05:00 Amanda on being acknowledged alongside Puerto Rico's boxing legends

08:30 Headlining Madison Square Garden & the Katie Taylor fights

11:00 Joe asks if women boxers could take most men

17:00 Amanda's MMA career

31:00 Boxing fans want to see fighters FIGHT

38:00 What new fans should know about women's boxing

47:00 Journey from boxing for peanuts to first $1 million pay day

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