In short
Angela Renee Simmons promotes her new spoken-word/rap-leaning single “Run To,” tying it to mental health, pressure from being “hip-hop royalty,” and where people “run to” when overwhelmed (she says she runs to God). She also discusses growing up in a famous hip-hop family, balancing motherhood/entrepreneurship/music, and her own depression experience and therapy observations.
Guests
Angela Renee Simmons (singer-songwriter/creator; signed with Rough Riders; works with vocalist Riza on the track). Interviewer/host is Joe Crack (Joe and Jada show). Other voices in the episode include Mikey Day and Streeter Seidel only via unrelated promo segments; they are not part of the main conversation.
Key claims
The world pressures people to be “perfect,” but she rejects comparing herself to others. Mental health is about expression and finding what you run to. Depression can persist even when circumstances look “beautiful.” Public discussion of mental health is “very important.”
Notable examples
Her depression while staying at the Delano in Miami; therapy mostly attended by women; her “Run To” lyrics about temptation, a “maze,” and facing fears; her childhood memories of watching her father’s shows and the “one play” moment that electrified her Bronx school.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction of Angela Renee Simmons
2:03 to 3:15
Hosts introduce Angela Renee Simmons, highlighting her achievements.
“You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show.”
Growing Up Hip Hop Royalty
3:15 to 6:48
Discussion on the pressures of growing up in a famous family and expectations.
“You think of somebody that whenever she puts her hand on anything, it flourishes, it thrives, it does well.”
Mental Health and Self-Expectations
6:48 to 7:58
Angela discusses the pressure of perfection and the importance of mental health.
“I mean, it might look perfect, but like on the inside, everyone got their own stuff going on.”
Inspiration Behind 'Run To'
7:58 to 11:59
Angela shares her creative process and the emotional background of her song 'Run To'.
“best, you know, in a mental health level, it's so important not to put yourself in that position where you're stuck being and being someone who you're not just for everybody else.”
Joe's Battle with Depression
11:59 to 14:01
Joe opens up about his struggles with depression and its impact on his life.
“But music's a great place because it's things you listen to.”
Struggles with Mental Health
14:01 to 14:48
Discussing the personal battles with depression and mental illness.
“But when you fight in your own mind, it don't matter where you go.”
The Importance of Expression
14:49 to 16:04
Exploring how self-expression relates to mental health and overcoming challenges.
“stories, but it's important And, you know, when I was going to see therapy, it was 99 % women and me.”
Balancing Multiple Roles
16:05 to 16:46
Angela discusses managing her responsibilities as a mom, producer, and artist.
“And so that, like, to me, that's a part of, like, the inspiration behind the music, like, and what I'm putting out right now.”
Recognizing Personal 'Crazy'
16:47 to 18:54
A humorous yet insightful discussion about self-awareness and being perceived as 'crazy'.
“But 2 Chainz came over here the other day and he sat in that seat and he looked at me and says, nah, watch y 'all all the time and I just think you just he said, nah, you crazy.”
The Pressure of Fame and Mental Health
18:55 to 21:41
Discussing the unique pressures faced by famous individuals and its impact on mental health.
“So this is why we talking mental illness right now, right?”
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Coping Mechanisms and Support Systems
21:42 to 24:14
Strategies for dealing with pressure and the importance of having supportive relationships.
“Because there's just so much pressure in so many different ways for everybody.”
Launching Angela's Cakes
30:29 to 31:07
Angela reveals her new pancake business and delicious offerings.
“Yes, we're about to actually launch in some different markets right now.”
Cultural and Personal Reflections
31:07 to 33:15
A conversation about fasting, culture, and family traditions regarding food.
“When I say they love pork, I don't know if it was the cheapest meat or whatever, but they would eat it, and I'd come sit in my mother's house, and my father would be like, trying to give me pork.”
Growing Up Hip-Hop Royalty
33:15 to 39:48
Angela shares her experiences growing up in a famous family and realizing her father's superstar status.
“Bring people together, bring that good feeling, good vibe.”
Memorable Hip-Hop Experiences
39:48 to 42:00
A nostalgic recount of powerful moments in hip-hop history and their impact on the community.
“And how he was just carrying on and throwing things in the audience.”
Memories of Hip-Hop and School Days
42:00 to 44:10
Angela shares nostalgic memories of the impact of hip-hop music in her school.
“Yeah, but when I tell you the whole school went like this and everybody looked at it together and everybody was like, oh, it's a new day.”
The Creative Process in Music
44:10 to 47:08
Discussion about the creative process of writing music and collaboration in the studio.
“Oh, so you question him to know what you're going to write about?”
Preview of Angela's New Single 'Run To'
47:08 to 51:39
Angela discusses her new single 'Run To' and its themes, followed by a live play.
“Feel like I'm running through a maze It's driving me insane So tell me what I'm gonna do I'm fighting temptation What is it gonna take just for me to get a breakthrough?”
Transcript
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1:56Hire skills first. Learn why at tearthepaperceiling.org. Brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. For the viewers and the people on the rock, she's stepping in the music now. She got the new song called Run. That's what she's talking about. And you're on it. That is like a very high. I love Jada, you love this shit.
2:30Yo, what up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack, the Don. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we crushing shit. Hard to be. Today's guest. You think of today's guest. You think of a lot of things. You think of a great mom. You think of a family-orientated person. A creator. You think of somebody that works out. Extreme workout. All kind of working out. You think of somebody that takes nice trips that I'm jealous of. You think of somebody that's very photogenic. You think of somebody that whenever she puts her hand on anything, it flourishes, it thrives, it does well.
3:28You think of somebody that does a lot of praying. You know what I mean? Comes from a good family, a good background. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Angela Renee Simms.
3:48My intros is getting better and better. That was a wonderful intro, I must say. Yeah. Right on point. Is that new to Renee Simmons? Or it was like... I don't think it can be new. I don't think she... Probably we never heard it, but I don't think she... Angela Renee is my artist name. And Angela Renee Simmons is my full name. Angela Renee is your artist name. Yeah. So that's... Different levels. I heard it two, three times this morning. I'm like, all right, so we running with that. Yeah, that's my real name, though, because Renee's my middle name. Oh, all right. That makes sense. I had to ask you, but dude, I was nervous.
4:24Yo, James, do I don't say Simmons or do I just add Renee? I don't want to mess up. Yeah, you got to say Simmons, but you got to say Renee. This is one of them things, yo, two-time O 'Fallon. Two-time O 'Fallon with the peppermint. Thank you. I'll make some noise for two-time O 'Fallon. Two-time O 'Fallon. How many people can get a two-time fella to get him a peppermint tea? Give him a peppermint tea, two-time a fella. You missed that Jordan. Boy, you was like, they left without me, huh? Yeah, that boat sailed. Yo, that boat sailed. Sick. That boat sailed, man. Save it for Thursday. Missed out.
5:02Listen, you grew up royalty to us. You know, we look up to your family so much on another level that you was just born into this role. Like, your family is pretty much in hip-hop culture, because I take hip-hop like it's a religion, to be honest with you. And so, there's forefathers, there's people who we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your family. Right? And so, when we see you growing up, it's like, almost like the Kennedys or something. We're looking at you like, she is real tall. What did I say now? Not like the Kennedys, man. I mean, on the... Nah. Give me another comparison. Not the Kennedys.
5:51The Kennedys are big... We know they are, but I don't like that comparison. Rockefeller? Not that one either? All right. I understand where you're going. No, what I... I don't like that. You obviously don't understand. I do understand. You do the fucking shit. You know what you say. Early. Like, listen to me, man. I know what you're saying. You understand? Yeah. Perhaps. But growing up, before everybody's eyes, and that's even before social media. Yeah. How tough is it to be perfect? How tough is it to, like, everybody expects so much from you. Everybody just looks at you like. He's going to ask you some crazy things.
6:31Is he really? So I need you to just. Flow with it. Flow with it. I'm going to try to flow with it. I'm doing the most decent questions in the world. How tough is it to be perfect is kind of a shit. But it's true though. That's a question for me. Have you ever felt... They want you to be perfect. I think the world wants you to be perfect. I'm by no means perfect. I mean, it might look perfect, but like on the inside, everyone got their own stuff going on. You know what I mean? So when you say perfect, it's like define perfect. What do you mean by perfect? What do I mean? Like everybody expects so much of you.
7:03They do. Since you was a baby, we looked at you like, all right they're gonna you know this is what it is yeah you know how hard is that so they like what's next for you how do you compete or like compare to that and i think the most important thing is like coming from it is not to compare yourself to that and to just be who i am and our parents really like instilled that in us at a young age like you don't have to even be of this industry like you know what i mean like we were never forced into it we didn't have to be in it we didn't have to be on tv growing up we didn't have to do none of it my parents were like want to be a doctor, go be a doctor.
7:35You want to be like whatever. And you could change your career at any point. And you're like, even now, like if I just want to go do something else, like I'm not confined to one thing, confined to one thing. Like I don't have to do that. So I feel like being perfect, you know, your family doesn't, my family doesn't force that on us, but the world has the pressure of saying be perfect. But no, for me, I don't look at it like that. You know what I mean? Like I don't push, put that much pressure on myself. I just do what feels the best, you know, in a mental health level, it's so important not to put yourself in that position where you're stuck being and being someone who you're not just for everybody else.
8:09Yeah. How important is it to talk about mental health on a public platform? Very important. I mean, even run to, it's like, I'm really big on where do you run to? When you're going through things, where can you run to? What does everyone have? I run to God before anything else. You know what I mean? Like, I got to run before we do anything. For the people that, for the viewers and the people on the rock, she's stepping into music now. she got the new song called Run To that's what she talking about and you're on it that is like a very high you love this shit that is like a highlight I have to say thanks she was like yo I'm coming on by the way people there's a long list of that's the fuck I mean there's a long waiting list of people superstar actors who's trying to get on this show and you was like, yo, Joe, I'm coming on this show.
9:05I'll be there next week. Don't worry. And I guess I assume my royal position. I said, all right, the queen is coming. She's sitting down and we, it is what it is. Thank you. And she told me she did a song with you. I guess what made you want to rap now? She's not rapping. Yeah, I would say it's more poetic. You said poetry, right? Because I didn't hear it yet. It's spoken words. You didn't hear it yet? No, I didn't hear it. We're going to hear it together for sure, right? But it's spoken word. I mean, I just, I'm a creative and I'm a creator. And I went in the studio and I went with what came from inside of me.
9:42Like, there's other levels and layers to me that people haven't met yet. And so this is another side. Your voice is ill. Thank you. And when her hitmaker called me, you know. Hitmaker's behind this. Hitmaker, Korte, but hitmaker got. That's my little man. Reached out to Jada. Yeah, they reached out and they was trying to explain to me. what kind of song it was. I can't really understand till they sent it. Till they sent it, I'm like, oh, no, this shit is nice. It's a vibe. Yeah. It's a top-down vibe. You know, hair blown in. Well, you know, you're better than me. I asked him for a verse. I never get it.
10:17You get it. I'm so thankful for my verse. Ain't that some shit? You got sci-fi dead or alive, huh? I can't get this motherfucker to do nothing. Now, that's cap. Ladies and gentlemen, I mean, you know that. So you just said being creative. You know, I've been hearing that a lot lately. And I appreciate that. And I love that because for many years, I feel like that has gone away from the culture where it ain't just quick fix to make money. It ain't this. People like, yo, I want to just express myself. Yes. This is near to my heart. I mean, it's a project I started working on over two years ago. But I have like 12 or 15 songs.
10:59I'm actively in the studio. I'm signed with Rough Riders, which is like huge. Make some noise for that big whop in the building. Yeah. They did a deal with me. Yo, why? What's up, baby? Why in the building? Yeah. And that alone is just exciting for me. So I'm stepping into a whole new world. But it's something that I've been doing. And I'm actively in the studio. And there will be a project. But we started with Run 2. What inspired Run 2? When I got in the booth, honestly, just thinking of life and life circumstances and what's going on in mental health and like, where can I go? And, and, you know, Risa's on the track, the girl singing and listening to what she was talking about.
11:38I'm like, yo, this makes sense for that. You know what I mean? Sitting there and really thinking about what people are going through. People mask their pain all day. We all do. We're human, but it's like, where can we go? How do we like express? So it just came from like real emotions, raw emotions, things I'm going through, things that I feel like other people can relate to and maybe don't always talk about. But music's a great place because it's things you listen to. Like for me, the first thing I do in the morning, I'm on jazz, I'm listening to meditation stuff. So like this is something to me, I can listen to first thing in the morning.
12:08Because it's just positive and it pushes me to the next level. Like what's next, you know? Is there a project? I heard you say you've been working on it, but you're going to release? Yes, there's a project. Don't rush the single though. Let the single, let it marinate and saute in those numbers. no we got time for the project the single is the push right now that's why I like that the video you ain't see the video yet right I ain't see nothing yet we gotta premiere everything I'm in the blind man nobody's showing me shit we gotta show you everything I'm in the blind objects appear closer than the mirror or whatever that shit is man you know it's crazy right because when we talk about mental health like Me, myself, I went through depression for like two years, got real fat, got, you know, couldn't sleep, couldn't, you know, I went through it, through it, through it, through it, through it.
13:10And the whole time, you know, the challenge ain't even a place. Right. So say the first year of my depression, I went. The luckiest thing I think I had about my depression was that I was rich at the time. So at least I was able. Yeah, that helped. I was at the Delano. I had the bungalow for like rented for a year. Oh, wow. So I'm just in there depressed, coming out, pool, new strangers every day. I lived in the Delano in Miami in the bungalow. And I was just like, wherever you go, you can go to the most beautiful place. When you're going through depression, that she can't mask it because it's all in your mind.
13:49So I'm saying your mind is like a Rubik's Cube. So true. So it's like you fighting your mind. So I noticed, I said, damn, this one thing, you a gang member, you got to move out of Compton. Hey, move out of Compton. They won't kill you. But when you fight in your own mind, it don't matter where you go. You go private islands. I did all that shit. Private islands, all that was still depressed and still fucked up. Still, you know, it's like a Rubik's Cube. One day you got to figure it out. You got to crack that code. I kept telling myself like, yo, Joe, you smart. Come on, figure this out. Joe, every day, fighting myself.
14:23Yo, Joe, you smart, man. Figure this out. Come on. You know how to get out of this. You know what's going on. Because I knew what was going on. Not only being depressed, I'm losing everything. You know what I'm saying? My crew, my this, my that. Everybody looking at Joe. He's not the same. He's weaker. This, this, that. That mental illness is real. But I told him before, he hates when I repeat stories, but it's important And, you know, when I was going to see therapy, it was 99 % women and me. I was the only man in there going to get therapy. It was just all women and me. And I asked the doc one day, I said, your doc, you know what I'm saying?
15:07Why is no men in here? And she was like, well, these are all women. They got rich husbands. They feel like every time their husband leave out of town, he doing the do. He giving us a king toast. she's not seeking the kingdom. You got to seek the kingdom. Yes, yes. It's real though. Nah, nah, we can't forget that one. Anytime temptation, any bad thing, whatever, just say, yo, I'm seeking the kingdom. Get up out of here. Yeah, but that's real. I mean, depression is like, they say lack of expression. And it's like you versus you. So it's like, anytime you feeling down, it's like, you really got to look at yourself.
15:45You know what I mean? It's like, what am I doing that's not expressing myself enough? What am I not expressing? What part of my life am I not, like, what am I not doing? Because, like, I think sometimes, and I think so many people even around me have experienced depression. And I've been through things where it's like, what do you do now? Like, what am I not doing to get myself to the other side? It's such a push. And so that, like, to me, that's a part of, like, the inspiration behind the music, like, and what I'm putting out right now. Fine. That's right. You're a mom, a producer, an entrepreneur, a creator.
16:15Now you're making music. How are you going to balance all of these things? I don't think there's a perfect balance to it. I think it's more about just allocating time. Like, okay, I'm going to put this much percent of time here, this here. It's like looking at your a hundred percent and splitting it up and giving a hundred percent of each time of each of those percents. You know, I learned that from a mentor over time. And I was like, that makes a lot of sense because you can't give a hundred percent to everything without breaking it down. Like, okay, I'm gonna give 20 % here. But when I give that 20%, I'm gonna give a hundred percent at that 20%.
16:44Do you get what I'm saying? My highest level. So it's just about giving that time when I have that time. Yeah, I don't work like that. Like me, I'm like crazy. I'm definitely crazy. What's your version of crazy, though? I'm not crazy, crazy, but I'm crazy. But I'm crazy. I'm crazy. But 2 Chainz came over here the other day and he sat in that seat and he looked at me and says, nah, watch y 'all all the time and I just think you just he said, nah, you crazy. And he's the first guy that made me realize I'm crazy. Because 2 Chainz don't play like that. When he told me that, I looked at him, I said...
17:25His word, Major. I went home, I said... I said, Joe, you fried. I said, I went away. I said, 2 Chainz, say ass. He said, nah, I'm really figuring it out, Joe. You crazy. So I got in that car when we pulled out of here, headed to New Jersey. I said, nah, yo, you know, son, Joe, you fried. You told yourself that after? I'm proud of you. Man, because we got a crazy dude that's in this building. He's with OG1 and Jay-Z every day. My man, Goldo. I know Goldo since the 80s in the streets. Shout out to Goldo. Shout out to my brother, Goldo. And Goldo is fried. Okay, everybody know he crazy. Everybody.
18:05You know Goldo why? You know he's crazy. Everybody know he's crazy. One day, he looked at me and he said, Yo, Joe, you know you fried. I said, it's the fried for me when the fried nigga the kettle calling the kettle the pot whatever like he said I'm fried I said yo I'm fried the pot calling the kettle crazy the pot calling the kettle black bro that man hit me with that yo Joe you know you fried I said what stupid been fried my whole life. I got problems. But I got problems. In a good way, though. In a good way. You good crazy. Yeah, I'm good crazy. But I need that. You know, she's coming. I know she's dropping the record.
18:55She's royalty. I want to talk to it, Pop. Somehow we're talking mental illness. Yeah, yeah. No, no. That's real, though. That's everywhere. I know. It's the realest shit. Everybody's going through something. I mean, I've been seeing it. I'm going with you. That's real. So this is why we talking mental illness right now, right? So I'm going with, I'm one of them guys. I freestyle. I don't got enough. I'm going with the flow. Flow is, it's real. A lot of people going through some shit. Let us tell you what we going through. So that you, maybe it'll help you if you going through that now. It's true.
19:24You understand what I'm saying? But. I like your hand move. I like it.
19:34Yo, this is hilarious. Nah, this guy's crazy. Finish. I forgot what I started saying. I'm going to cry. Cry. But in this business, right like you, you get in a relationship, you're all over everybody in your business, you can't pick a booger. You go to dinner, you can't pick a booger. This shit crazy out here. You got flags. Yo, which one should I flag in a booger? Don't throw a flag. Me and yo, we come up before social media, this shit is fried out here. everything's a problem a landmine a this or that let me tell you something I'm gonna tell you something it's none of these people you can put the camera on me it's none of these people it's cameras right there I hate 6ix9ine like I hate him like I hate hold up where's it going wrong at let me explain something to you let me I always got a reason for explaining this shit I fucking hate him if he stepped on a landmine I wouldn't give a fuck for one kilometer of a second I might play the do-do-do-do I don't give a fuck, right?
20:43So I hate everything he stands for, everything he does, everything. I hate him. The guy goes to jail for three months. I thought maybe my social media calmed down. I said, all right, this pussy in jail, that maybe it'll calm down. This shit just start going wild, crazy. Everybody else beefing with everybody, everybody talking about everybody. It's like, yeah, I thought he was the problem. I thought he was like the cancer of my Instagram, you know, of everything I hate in life. And the man goes away for three, four months and shit get even crazier, bro. So what I'm saying is mental health, when we go back to the mental health, it is mental health.
21:26Yeah, it's all connected. It's all connected. It's all connected because it's fucked up right now. The world and everything that's going on right now is fucked up. And, you know, to keep your sanity, to keep your this, and then you got to still look cute. You got to do everything you got to do. You got to be presentable. You got to this, this, this, that. That shit is not, it's hard. And I worry about our kids. And I worry about everybody out there. Because there's just so much pressure in so many different ways for everybody. Like that famous kids, famous kids, they be killing themselves. It's just the truth because it's a different kind of pressure on them.
22:14Yeah, I mean, the spotlight pressure messes with people for sure. I think if you're not built for it or you don't have the foundation, you know what I mean? It can definitely become a thing that's like hard, especially if you don't have a therapist or you're not seeking like things to help you spiritually. if you're not growing, it becomes a really hard space for kids, you know? So, it's tough. We got to keep good people around you and the right people, great people, as a matter of fact, around you. And what do you do when you get old like me and you say, yo, I'm tired? Go to bed. Like your wife.
22:48No, go what? Go to bed. Go to bed? No, no, no, no. For a long time, say Rough Ride is a big crew. Terrace Squad, a big crew. for a long time, I might have talked so many guys off the ledge from doing triple life. You don't know how many times I don't drink. How about when you do see me drink? When one of my friends say they're about to kill a whole town, I go there and sit with them at six in the morning, drink a Hennessy, talking them off the mountain, the ledge. Nah, brother, you know, drinking the Hennessy with a mouth. You know, I did this shit my whole life. I'm tired. I'm tired. Joseph Cartagena is tired of jumping in everybody's beef.
23:33Everybody's talking. Everybody's this. For years, I had to be like a filter for everybody to talk them off a ledge. You know, and I'm tired now. Like myself, the guy who just been the battering ram of everybody's problems.
23:54You know my answer. Do you meditate? No, I don't meditate. I'm good. I'm good in my space. I don't have no problem with my mental illness and nothing like that. I ain't put... You said you're tired. Let me tell you something. I said he was tired. I'm creative like you. I draw. I go in my office. And yesterday, I came off the plane. I drew for like... I drew for like seven hours straight. I don't give a fuck. What is it? I just put it in my arm. That's your escape. That's what you run to draw. Yeah, all my music. You like that. That's why my music always so violent because it's like I got to get it out.
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27:43So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you, I have watched some survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion in the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha-hoo, ha-ha-hoo, ha-hoo. Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune in to Pod Meets Twirl for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Pod Meets Twirl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
28:24It's your responsibility to not just seek help, but to identify that you need help. This is Mental Health Awareness Month. Tune in to the podcast Just Healed with Dr. J and take real steps toward healing, growth, and becoming your best self. When you hear the word healing, what does it mean for you? What came right back to mind are the three Ps that I live by. I'll go through the process of healing so that patience, that perseverance, and that prayer equals healing to me. From understanding your mental health to doing the work, we break down practical tools, real conversations, and the mindset shifts you need to move forward and thrive.
29:01You matter too. Your mental health is your responsibility, not your wife, not your partner, not your children, not the church, not the pastor, not the council. is your responsibility. It's time to stop putting your healing on hold and start doing something about it. Listen to Just Heal with Dr. J on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on? Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable? Because I want to get confident. This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy, a weekly podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple question.
29:38Who do you want to be? and what's the song that can take you there. I didn't care about my life circumstance when I listened to that stuff. It didn't matter to me. Music changes what you feel and what you feel changes what you do, right? That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts. Healing is the shift from survival into choice. It's Mental Health Month and I'm talking to experts like celebrity therapist, the Mindful MFT, Lynn Hoffman from Music Saved Me and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove. They'll bring the strategies. I'll pair them with the right records and we'll teach you how to use the music to make change stick.
30:13This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for you every day. This has been so much fun. Music is therapy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
30:28Tell us about Angela's Cakes. Yes, we're about to actually launch in some different markets right now. Angela's Cakes is doing well. Pancakes, and they're amazing. We actually should get you guys some. Definitely. I should have cooked it, right? Is it a supermarket or? We will be soon. Yeah. Right now we're online. It's eatangelascakes.com and Angela's Cakes on Instagram. What made you come up with a... Could you do it for some guy on keto? Like, do we got those? Oh, we can figure it all out. Whatever's necessary. We can alter the recipe. I'm on keto. I need some... They told me they got these protein pancakes in like Whole Foods.
31:03There's keto pancakes. They're good. I'm fasting. They're good? I've had them. You fasting? How long you fasting? Because every day you fast. We was traveling. I can break my fast. It's a month. Whenever the sun. Oh, so Ramadan. You Muslim? I never knew you was Muslim. You just see me fasting? I'm fasting. That's amazing. You're the God. What's your name in Dubai? Ali Ghassani. You're my father. Let me tell you something. Oh, my God. Puerto Ricans specialize in pork. They love it. When I say they love pork, I don't know if it was the cheapest meat or whatever, but they would eat it, and I'd come sit in my mother's house, and my father would be like, trying to give me pork.
31:48I'd be like, yo, pop, I don't eat pork. He'd be like, you in that religion? He'd start speaking. He thought I was buzzing. I was like, nah, yo, pop, I just don't eat pork. Yo, it's the best shit in the world. What are you talking about? I'm 80-something. I eat pork every day. What's wrong with you? this, I'm like, yo, Pop, I just don't eat pork. But... Shit told him stuff a lot, Pop. Told him what? Stuff a lot, Pop. Stuff a lot? Nah, my Pop's ain't give a fuck. That man used to argue with me. He used to try to... One day, I got so pissed at him, he made some beans and rice. I looked at the shit, they had a little piece of ham in the beans.
32:30I was like, yo, Pop, what's up? Nah, I'm trying to, you know, introduce it to you again. I see your Pop. Don't flip me. He tried to slip me a Mickey. He threw the ham in that shit. You know I don't eat that shit since I'm 12. He tried to slip me a Mickey with the pork. He was dumb tight. I stopped eating pork. You know, that pork, man, oof. I don't know. I just, I couldn't do it. Not even as a final bill. They said, yo, you're about to die. You want to eat some pork? I'd be like, nah, I'm good. what do you want your voice in hip-hop to represent? Strength, I would say. I really want to be able to inspire on my platform to be able to just uplift folks, you know what I mean?
33:15Bring people together, bring that good feeling, good vibe. You know what I mean? When I'm in the studio, those are the things I'm listening for. What's going to make me feel my best? And I know if I feel good, then I'm exuding that energy out. When you do it, do you burn candles? Do you got shades and polysantra? Yes, you're on. Ah, the bottle starts to the hot. You got my whole vibe, Dancer's Tea. So I like it dark. I have, like, the mood, the lights down, the blues, or, like, depending on the mood, I go with different light color, but very dim. And I like to record at night. Like, I'm, like, sharp at nighttime.
33:50Sometimes a little bit of red wine, tea. Yeah. I don't tell you about them red wine. Five bottles. I want lots of candles. Even in the books, I like dark. Mr. Five Bottles, dead or alive, red wine over here. These guys. I like that one. That's fine. Because I'm better in the daytime. Really? I mean, I got to try the candles and tea. It's such a vibe. The Paul and Santo. I got to see what I can do. I got to try. I got to go for it. You know, she gets... I'm going to go for it. You got guys that look beautiful. It feels peaceful. I feel like everyone's sleeping in my head. You know, beautiful...
34:24My music can't sound too peaceful. Nah. That makes sense. That makes sense. I need to be peaceful, but not too good. Yo, this would be the one time I'm not a Jadakiss fan, bro. I'll give up on him. I'll break the CD and everything. He come up in there. Peace, beloved. We all the universal. We all the nicest. Fuck out of here. I want my money back. Peace, beloved. Peace, beloved. Yo. I mean, yo. You ain't going to know. I'm not going to tell you what song I made off the camp. Off the peace, off the Vali Sanctro. That's my mind. So you got people like Jill Scott. You got NDI, Erika Badu. Solange.
35:10You got Solange. Jhene Aiko really inspired me as well. When I heard her stuff, that is an artist that when I listened to it, I used to listen to her Calm Down. She's a really nice one. I used to listen to it every morning. And that made me start thinking, I love this. This face is beautiful to function at. You know what's crazy? lately in my house, they've been putting on this smooth... It's a smoother level of R &B. Like, Ella Mae, I think she's the leader of it. Oh, I'm in love. Every day, I'm listening to her. Her album is incredible. It's on play right now. The voice is amazing. She's amazing.
35:48Yeah, but I try to tell Dre, you know, Kool and Dre, you should get in the studio with Dre. I can't wait. And Dre, Dre would know exactly what to give you. Yeah, I think her and Dre would do some mixed But Dre don't know what's going on with Ella Mae right now. So I hit him up and I was like, yo, Ella Mae been on my playlist crazy lately. He's like, yeah, Joe, she's nice. I said, no. I said, you haven't heard her new shit. Like, she ain't just nice. She running this shit. She different level. She running this shit right now. This album. I listened to it on the plane yesterday. Her shit is crazy.
36:27Speaking to my soul. Like, she just, it's something about her lyrics. The First Day, Luckiest Man. Like, I know tracks. I listen to an entire album. Yeah. I'll get to naming them all, but I love her. I like the 100. One, they keep it. Oh, yeah, yeah, 100. But they got a whole new genre of, like, peaceful music. It's a whole new, like, I've been listening to it while I've been to that. I'm telling you. Olivia Dean's fire, too. This is your whole... You sit there, they play that bitch on Spotify, whatever, and every record's better than the next. You keep going, yo, who's that? And it's somebody you never heard of.
37:05You go, who's that? Yo, there's somebody you never heard of. It's true. Kill it. It's inspirational music. That's it. Yeah. Feel good. Feel good. That's what I... Yo, when we gonna hear this record, but hold on, I wanna... Because... Y 'all fucked me up. Y 'all shifted. We did it? shit. Y 'all did it. I don't think it was us. Growing up. Growing up. Yes. Right? Because your dad, I want people to know, because a lot of people know you, well, whatever they, what they call Gen Z's or whatever. What's these young kids call? Gen Z's. They don't know shit about your dad and all that. They just don't.
37:44They know you and your family. They know about you and your family unless they come from like a historical hip-hop family that taught him, yo, this is the man. Like my son. He know about it. Just for me, right? When they did the legendary concert where they put up the Adidas, I didn't get to go. My uncle told me he was coming and me and my brother waited in front of that building for hours looking at every headlight that came up the block. He never came. And so we ain't go. And so the other day, 50th anniversary of hip hop, Yankee Stadium to me was the biggest day of my life. We performed. And then I went to the suite with my family.
38:30And your pops came on. And she said, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I immediately knew the gods are here. Like, this is another level of like, you know. And you as a kid, what is some of the memorable moments? or you knew as a kid, like, yo, my father's a superstar? I did it for a little while. I think after second grade, maybe. Because I'm telling you, like, so for me in school, like the kids would always like parents. Well, second grade is young. Yeah, I guess I kind of remember like the kid, the parents of the kids would be like, can we get such stuff from your dad? And I'm like, what? It didn't dawn on me.
39:07I'm telling you until I was at a show and it was one day my dad, we drove the van from New York to somewhere. I don't know where we went, but I know that we used to sleep in the back of the van. That was like so fun for us. And we would go to the hotel. And then my dad would take us to the show. So we'd be on the side and watch. But there I seen him throw the mic, standing in the audience. And I'm like, yo, all these people are very excited to see him. I think it clicked at that moment. Oh, he's like a lot of people know him. You know what I mean? Like it was the energy in the room. It was the stand on the side with everybody.
39:36We don't know. We were so little, but it was like that particular show that I remember driving the van to the show, going to the hotel, and then going to the hotel to the show and seeing the energy in the room. I was like, what? And how he was just carrying on and throwing things in the audience. I'm like, oh, he can do that. Like, that's crazy. It was something else. He invented that shit. Watching Jam Master Jay, like, just everything. It was like, we went to a lot of his shows. So when we would be with him, we'd go back and forth to my mom and dad's house. On the weekends, we were with dad.
40:06If he'd go on the show, we at the show. We on the side. We were right next to the turntables. It was like, epic. Now that I think back, I didn't know. It took that show to, like, it clicked. it was like my first superhero. Really? Her. It changed my life. Did that. It's so dope. I love hearing the stories. You know, I got this. I got this one better than anybody. How about that one? I'm in junior high school. Just to let you know how you know. I performed She'll Only Come Out at 9. I sung that at junior high school. She's a man. I'm just trying to let you know where we at with this. Right? Oh, there she goes.
40:57Yeah, yeah. Fat Joe, some of that shit. And so, I sit down. It's like 100 of us. Well, it seemed more than 100. It was like 700 the whole school. And the record at the time was Kumo D's Special K. They had that Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil. So everybody would come up and do their dance routine to that. Like, that was the shit. They was running the game. And these three girls, I wish I knew who they were, what they named. They in my school, but I don't know. And that shit came on. Your father shit. When I seen 1 ,000 kids look at each other, because the Bronx ran hip-hop, destroyed, dominated, King, nobody else lived, nobody else got a play nobody else, like Bronx was like for maybe the first 15 years of hip hop it was just the Bronx it was nothing else rocking every artist that was popping, Curtis Blow whoever, everybody was the Bronx when that shit came on I watched the whole school look at each other and knew it was a new day off of one play when that shit came on the whole school was like looking at each other like when was it there we go or Rockbox?
42:22No, Rockbox. I think it was like that. Oh, that's the way. Yeah, but when I tell you the whole school went like this and everybody looked at it together and everybody was like, oh, it's a new day. It's an alien came to earth. It was AI. That's insane. Like it was AI. That's cool. we grew up such hip-hop. You know, from breakdance, graffiti, this, this, this, this, this, this. Like, we was there, there, there. That's so dope. And when that shit played one time, you watched the whole school golf. Right, because the energy of that, the build-up of that song is crazy. It wasn't the build-up. They just played it.
43:02Played it and started everything. No, but the way it comes on. Okay, everybody looking at each other like. Yeah, it comes on with energy. Yo, in one second, everybody just looked at each other and was like, oh, it's a new day. Like, this shit is over. But somebody else owns hip hop off of one play. And they ain't never stopped. They just took the game. That's amazing. You know? Yeah, that shit was like... Because a lot of times we go through stuff. Say you, right? Say you started doing a TV show or whatever. Yeah. I wonder what the girl in Philly was thinking. Yeah. Or the girl in LA. Young girl that could relate or whatever.
43:37We all feel like that. He makes music. Y 'all wonder how they like it or how they this and this. I actually was there. with a thousand fellow Bronx students and they all was looking like one play. Everybody was like, wow. It's like, all right, there's some new kings off of one play. DJ, my name is DMC. Is it? It's like that. That's the way it is. Oh, that shit was like, huh? He got one of them. I used to stay up and I had to put the, tissue in the tape and catch late night and catch the catch that's how I used to catch the scroofs that shit was like the best thing I'll kill you for that tape me and P was going right me and P was supposed to do some writing for the rev right and we chilling he was with us we in the studio we was in powerhouse we chilling we get the beat all that first we asking him mad you know that we questioned him we asked him a million question.
44:44He's chilling. I mean, now we finish questioning him. We get the track. Oh, so you question him to know what you're going to write about? We question him because we still get hit. We question him because how many times we go in with the Red, we get the action shit. So we ask him the man question. Now we get the track. We listen to the track. We find out how he want us to carve it. Like six o 'clock. I don't know what something. I forgot what time came. He looked at it. what? It was church time. I said, oh, it was sleep. He said, I got it. Yo, he got up. He gave me a big dot. We didn't know what happened.
45:24Yo, brother. I said, no, I got to go home. I got to go to sleep. I don't play with my sleep. My dad said, gotta go. There's a set time for sleep with him? I asked you, is everything I am? Now I'm good, y 'all. I just got to go to sleep. I don't play with my sleep when I got to go. I got to go. My dad be on his own schedule. He left. he ain't gonna play about his schedule whatever he's doing he's doing you know he was the first Fat Joe he always argued with me about that no he said that was his name oh that was his nickname yeah he did mention that was Fat Joe and fucking Russell Simmons was like what's a Fat Joe nobody give a fuck about a Fat Joe you gotta be like you know what I'm saying ain't nobody on the block wanna be Fat Joe you gotta be run you gotta this this this he tells me that story he said I got mad when you came out because that was my name.
46:16Now that's something. He said, yo, that was my name. Like, I was supposed to be Fat Joe. I said, yo. I'm going to leave the flag. Oh, it might be Chatham. That's your dad. When you go home or whatever, you speak to your dad. I'm going to just flash the flag. Fat Joe said you was the first Fat Joe. She's going to confirm it for you. I ain't throwing it. That's what I did. A flash. That you just showed it. Yeah, I just showed it. Nah, you did. You got it tucked, huh? I'm telling you the truth. I ain't going to lie to you. What's next? Just this project. Diving into this and pushing this. I'm very excited.
46:55You really going to work it? You ain't going to just frisbee it. You got it really. Oh, this is passion. Yeah, all right. Just a minute. Yeah, got to talk to you behind the scenes. We got some events to show up to. Please come if you're a member, too. I'm helping to work the record. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? This is awesome. You know this guy here. Teamwork make the dream work. Water and fire make the steam work. Can we hear it? You want to hear it? Yeah, let's hear it. Play it nice and locked. You know, once we play it. Turn it up. What you got, Coach? Where do you go? Knocking already.
47:35Please surround me. Talk to me. Yeah, Mac.
47:42Feel like I'm running through a maze It's driving me insane So tell me what I'm gonna do I'm fighting temptation What is it gonna take just for me to get a breakthrough? Cause I'm running through a maze It's driving me insane So tell me who I run to Have you ever found yourself? Trying to find which way to go? Do I go left? Maybe it's right Have you ever ran from the truth? Have you ever ran from your truth? You can't live a lie It's time to come about now Running around the circle Trying to figure who to run to Feel like I'm running through a maze It's driving me insane So tell me what I'm gonna do I'm fighting temptation What is it gonna take just for me To get a breakthrough Cause I'm running through a maze It's driving me insane So tell you who I run to I cannot decide I'm the devil right behind I'm running through this maze Trying to bury all the pain Can you tell me who to run to?
48:55Yeah, I'm just doing my thing Showing the people love Let not your good be spoken in evil love I'm fighting fire with fire Hoping it evens up But you blind to the fact That you don't even see the love At this point, the whole ordeal is draining. Consider it a loss. That's if I'm not gaining. I see you trying to force it, but I'm not changing. I'm just looking for a plot. I could bury the pain in. Over there dreaming. Get out of your days. Stop fighting with your demons. Get out of your ways. Some of the pain leaves, but a lot of it stays. Say it's sort of like me trying to get out of this maze.
49:29What's up? Running around the circle, trying to figure who to run to. Feel like I'm running through a maze. It's driving me insane So tell me what I'm gonna do I'm fighting temptation What is it gonna take just for me to get a breakthrough? Cause I'm running through a maze It's driving me insane So tell me who I run to I cannot decide Put the devil right behind I'm running through this maze Trying to bury all the pain Can you tell me who to run to? We all run from depression We all run from stress Sometimes we run to love Sometimes we run to an addiction Sometimes What you run into They say what you run from, you run into It's time to stop And face your fears And be real with yourself You can't run from this I cannot decide With the devil right behind I'm running through this maze Trying to bury all the pain Can you tell me who to run to?
50:46Knock! Yes! That is definitely a knock, right? That's a vibe right there. That's a knock. All you got to do is work that. Let's do it. You know what I mean? That just need... All you got to do is push that thing and let it... That's a top-down song to me. Who's the girl singing? Riza. Nice. Beautiful voice. I love that. Your voice sounds good. Your voice sounds too. She's nice. It's a vibe. Thank you. Thank God. When you see it go like this. Thank God. When you see that. Thank God. It's a vibe. I'm glad. Run 2. Make sure y 'all get that. Run 2. Go get that. Put that on that list. I be listening to and I'm doing my graffiti.
51:33Rough. Yeah. Rough Riders does it again. You know, we got chapters. We never stop. We love the Rough Riders. For life. Shout out to the general. You know what I mean? Siobhan. Mama Dean. Whole family. Yes. You might as well shout out everybody. The whole family. Baby, ride it down. That's it. Respect, man. Yo, listen, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's Crack and Kiss. make some noise for Angela Renee Simmons Angela Renee Simmons and let me tell you something never lose to Simmons and let me tell you something God get married to you you give him to Simmons then you gotta take the Simmons so I'm gonna add the Simmons to my husband yes Edward Robert Washington Simmons Edward Robert Washington Simmons Simmons.
52:30Edward Robert Washington Simmons III. Y 'all got to tell you. I told my daughter that. I said, yo, you get married, you know, you keep that car to Gina. So you got to figure it out. When you get married, you got to be whatever car to Gina. Like, we ain't losing that. That's all I'm saying. You're breaking it. You're breaking it. It don't go like that. But we got to do it. Everything is broken right now. We might as well keep adding it. It ain't broken this shit. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it's broke, keep breaking it. Who gives a fuck? Gotta know. I gotta pass that. If it's broke, keep breaking it.
53:11Yo, listen, man. It was an honor to have you here, man. Thank you. Play that song again. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear that joint. Yes. Thank you for having me. Yes.
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54:33Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live.
55:08This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast. And for Mental Health Awareness Month, we'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car and then my car got stolen. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course. Listen to Intercosmos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
55:52severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. Again, we are experts. Listen to Pod Meets Twirl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
From the publisher
Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Angela Renee Simmons, who pulls up to Joe and Jada to talk about her new single “Run To,” a record featuring Jada and Resa about mental health, faith, and finding your way through the maze. Signed to Rough Riders, Angela breaks down what inspired the song, what her creative process looks like in the studio, and why she's been working on music for over two years before putting anything out. The conversation gets real when Joe opens up about his own two-year battle with depression, living in a bungalow at the Delano while fighting his mind, and spending years talking friends off the ledge at 6 in the morning. Angela shares what it was like growing up as Rev Run's daughter and the moment she recognized her father was a rap superstar. Joe also tells the story of the first time he heard Run DMC in junior high school and watched a thousand Bronx kids all look at each other at the same time knowing hip hop had changed forever.
Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX!
All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet
04:00 Story behind "Run To" & getting into music
09:00 Signing to Rough Riders & working on full project
13:00 Mental health, depression and fighting your own mind
17:30 The pressure of fame on famous kids
31:00 Angela's Cakes & Jada’s fasting
34:15 Growing up as Rev Run's daughter
38:15 The first time Joe heard Run DMC
45:30 Premiering "Run To" live on the show
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