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26:28like that's what I that's what I care about like you know I know that that my taste my ear and what it is that I want to hear um that resonates with a certain type of person that's the type of person I want to talk to that's the person I like person you know I'm saying that I know the person who says that who said who says like oh you know yeah he talked that heavy this and that like man I'm sure I don't even gel with you anyway. We don't even like you. I know I don't like you. I'm positive I don't like you. We don't like you. But you not even my type of dude. You not, man. So I just, you know, I take it with a grain of salt.

27:11But, you know, more importantly, I know who my fan is.

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29:31Hey everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Ear Say, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook Project Hail Mary, massive sci-fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth. I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it.

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32:27Shit. He got your... Oh, my God. Now, this is what I was going to ask, though. Oh, shit. Jadikens, you was bald for the longest. You mean to tell me that you had a completely healthy hairline and you could have just grew your shit back at any moment? Yeah, it was a plan. That shit is crazy, bro. That shit crazy. We out here bald with no options. And you just said, fuck it, I'm just going to grow my shit back. That's respectful. You got to wash your shit. Nah, no, there ain't nothing. No, you don't. Yeah. You disrespectful. We thought you was bald. You had a paper towel wrapped around your forehead for years.

33:02Listen, we came out, bald heads was in. Know what I'm saying? Because of honor? Nah. I don't know about, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had I'm not going over there, man. X had a bald head, so anybody in my own had a bald head. You look like you still want to wear hair. I do still wear hair. I don't look like it. So go to fucking Turkey. Put him in here and he want to wear hair. I'm wearing it. First of all, I'm not going to say nothing back. There you go. Fuck you talking about. All right, so what I'm saying is. You only need a little bit. You can make history. I already did. You only need a little bit.

33:35Nah. Nah. Tory, Tiger, a lot of people did. He only need like a half. He don't need whatever they got. He's got that Sherman Helms. This shit is right. This shit is right. He's got something else like a motherfucker. This shit pushed back. I'm just saying, there's a solution. There's not a solution. Not for me, because I seen what it looked like in the days leading up. I can't go through that process. When the front of your head looked like it, the meat tender, the rice. I've seen guys get it. Nah, you got mean hats. All you got to do is get the meat bucket. I've seen guys get it. Yo, you need to do it.

34:11I ain't lying to you because you love your hair. You got to fix that shit up. I didn't say I love it. I just love the fact that I could do it like he did. Like me, I've been born forever. I can't grow no hair now. Me neither. See what happened to me. I used to have hair. I used to have hair like the fucking Brady Bunch. Right? Yeah, we seen it. And so when I was young, all the time. No, for real, JJ. He's telling the truth. I seen it. I seen that pic, man. I seen you, man. Fuck with the people at home, man. You keep fucking with me. I seen the picture. Let me tell you, I had hair like the Brady Bunch, but I shaved it all because all the tough guys had the baldies in my hood.

34:47My father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat me up because he knew what that meant. He couldn't catch you? He couldn't catch me. but I was running you know the point is one day I made a bet with Big Pun and I was like he was like yo man you can't grow no hair I said you fucking crazy my shit like the Brady Bunch if I went right now I'd grow braids whatever so I tried to grow this shit and it was like rest in peace to the hairline everything that shit was coming up like that man Pun had some more jokes about that shit I lost it so I saved my shit but now I got guys that they do the fake they got like a tattoo shit I can't do that I can't do it either.

35:25Yeah, yeah. But you could do the turkey. I can't do the turkey. Because it's your real hair. Come back. No, no. I'll get too much money for that shit. No, no, no, no. I'm not doing the turkey. So that's your signature. My story is. Your signature. We came in. Looch had the. Yo. Looch had the hot top fade. SP had the blowout. Chemical blowout back then. Like the Jackson 5? Nah, when the dope boys had it. When they came back in, man. like Matthew Mann in the room. Oh, okay, gotcha. So boom. When we got the deal, they still had air. I went ball first. Then I made a thing where y 'all shit fall out, I'm going to come back.

36:07And I just kept my word and came back. God bless you, brother. Because if I had air, my shit, they'll call me Alejandro. Come on, dog. My shit would be redolful. Go to Turkey. You said it was in the door. I don't want it. I don't want it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want it. You got to go to 30. Come back. I do not want it. Yes, you do. Because I see how you look on the front of them boxes. Listen, my shit will be with Delpho. Now, that's the look you make when you own that shit. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That was like, right? My shit, I had this. My shit would be like this with the curl, with the fucking juice and all that shit on my shit.

36:50So legend. Disrespect. Shout out to Uli and Jesse Torero. He got the shit with the curl. Like, they would think I ain't Fat Joe. I'd be Fat Joe's twin or some shit. I would really be on some bullshit if I had him. This week in hip hop history, y 'all. May 19th, man. DMX dropped in 1998. The dog. Always love for the dog. So 1998, he dropped his debut album, It's Dark and Hell is Hot. The importance of that album to me is that, you know, he put us on. He came and got us, put us, bought us with Rough Riders, told him this is, we starting it off like, you know, this who I want to represent with me.

37:40And the rest was history. To see where we came from, to see where he came from, he was already there and there like Bruce Springsteen and Y.O., we already looked at him as like a rock star. Then fast forward him being the only or one of the only rappers that ever do Woodstock. That shit is crazy. You know what I mean? That video tape fell out. Will forever mean the world to me because, you know what I mean, he gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation. You know, DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me. DMX stuck a lot of niggas. DMX. No, but he was already a star. Oh, he did it after he was ex?

38:24Yes. It's me, him, and Pun in a gas station in Brooklyn. After a show, thousands of people after a show, we in a gas station. Dude comes with some chains at DMX. He's like, yo, hold up, y 'all. He went and took his chains, came back and started talking to us in the gas station. Yo, DMX. He can't be indicted. He dead, so. No, no, no. He done. He dead. I'm just telling you a true story. Like, I got so many DMX. You might have. We got to filter some of these stories. Yo, I'm telling you, you might have. You got to have incredible DMX stories. I'm not telling you none of them. The crazy, since we go, I got to give a punch story.

39:04Look, when we shot the John Blaze video. DMX showed up? No, listen. This is how long ago it was. And this is how crazy. This was stash boxes first got invented. he wanted to test his shit out it was more before that but get ahead in the 80s we had Stash it wasn't doing what the shits was doing as if technology evolved he wanted to test his own shit out he drove somebody was driving he was in the passenger let off a four I don't know what it was da da da da da da and wanted to get pulled over and got pulled over. I said, this nigga's nuts, though. He is nuts. That was the craziest shit I had. He put it in the stash?

39:55Yeah, he had enough in front of the cops. Let it off, pull it, block it. Pull over. I don't know what you're talking about. And they ain't have the shit that make it pop out yet. So he was... I said, this nigga pun is crazy. I just... The way they explain it to you, the way they explain it to you, is... You know how somebody could be a genius in something and then in just common sense. He just don't know what he's like. I would go to his house. Right. And he would have about 30, 40 guns in his house. If you sat in the pillow, it was a gun. You put your hand on the chicken. It was a gun. You hit it.

40:37It was just. And I would sit there because I really came from the streets. I know what Rico indictments are. Indictments are. I know what all this is. I done came from all. I'd be like, they're going to make a jail just for you, buddy. Nah, they don't lock rappers up like that. They got swimming pools for rappers and all that. Tennis courts. I'm like, yo, he's thinking about the futuristic feds. What? And I would tell him like, yo, pun, you're crazy, bro. Then I go around his hood and the cops pull me over. Like this pun, one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood, even till he died.

41:15he refused to move out the hood I was already in Jersey like yo come to Jersey birds are chirping you know he nah I'm in the hood I'm the realist pun at the crib in the hood 10 benzes exotic $20 ,000 dogs and all type of shit like he was big pun double platinum in the hood he didn't care and so I would go to his hood and as a respected elder brother the police call me over so I'm like yo officer why you putting yo Joe man you know you gotta stop throwing eggs at the old ladies in front of the supermarket you know we know he's the only guy with the bends with the water gun shooting the old ladies I'm like yo I go in this house I start arguing with everybody in the house like yo punt they're gonna put you in jail you shooting the water guns at the old ladies they know the only guy with a 500 bends in the fucking sound view it's you punt you're going now he just didn't he he would go real from genius to common sense no sense like I had a real struggle with him and Norrie because Norrie's also my little brother when they was together they was crazy them two together is nuts oh they used to see me and be like yo Joe's the fun killer he's the fun killer no I don't want you to go to jail and not get to the back.

42:43Like, I know what's going on out here. You guys are too crazy.

42:49They gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling your time, but hold up. So we only got five minutes. Mama, come over here. I want you to sit on the couch. Make this shit legendary. You know what I'm saying?

43:06Sit down, mama. You know we love you. how proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms and his journey in life you know with Bubba Chuck and all the success and how you see him come around as a man it's important because you're the first mother athlete's mother that we all fell in love with we love you braiding his hair in the middle of the court and you I gotta stop you with that that's not me I braided his hair that's not her he's supposed to know that I braided his hair for all the, when he first wanted his hair braided. Now I did braid his hair, but his hair was coming loose in the back. And he was worried about his hair, you know, he liked to be fly.

43:50He was worried about his hair coming loose. So, you know, my sister called me and she was like, Ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me and I don't know how to braid hair. And I was like, all you got to do is just braid his hair. He's braiding just the back of it. And so when I got there, I saw my son. That cap is rubbing off on it. If it is cap, it's rubbing off. Because mommy got... Yeah, because mommy got... Shit about over there. Mommy got his... Oh, flag. Mommy got the story wrong. It is what it is. I got to be authentic. You taught me to be that way. What happened? You know what I mean?

44:24It didn't go down. It didn't go down. And then he over there calling. Now I'm Bubba Chuck. Why are you talking to mommy? Now I go to... At first, I was AI. Now I turn into Bubba Chuck when he talking to mommy. But it didn't, it ain't, it ain't happened like that. Well, you, you, you. I got my version. You got your version. Yeah. Okay. So all of a sudden. You know, you know, your son, AI, you know, my mom's ain't here, man. So we want to hear it. Like, you know, how proud are you of your son, man, and all his accomplishments and how he inspired generations of people? First of all, I was proud of him from the first day I saw him.

45:04you know, because back then, yeah, back then, back then when you have a baby and I was so young, like he said, so, you know, I had to have him cesarean birth and, um, I was asleep. So when I came, when I woke up in recovery and they brought me to, brought him to me and I was like, he's so light and you know what I'm saying? But when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me. I said, oh yeah, that's my baby. You know, and I checked everything on him. I checked everything on him. But what really blew my mind is, first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team because I got pregnant with him.

45:42But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms. His arms was past his kneecap. When I laid them out like that, they went way past his kneecap. And I was like, I got a baller. And I was happy. I was happy. And so I told my family, I told my whole family. I was like, you know, I got a baller. So everybody was like looking at me like I was simple or whatever. But the thing is, from that point on, he came in my life and he was the perfect child. He was not hardheaded. He would listen to everything I said and he loved the daylights out of me. And at that point, I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died at 29 years old, malpractice.

46:27But anyways, the Iverson said, send her to Virginia. And that's the best thing they could have done for me. And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant playing ball in Hartford, Connecticut. And I went from there to Bethel High School playing ball. And he had a favorite cheer. And his cheer... Don't do that, Mom. Okay. We gotta hear it. Mama, Mama, Mama. Yeah, it was a favorite cheer. And it used to be... No, no. It used to be, everybody be on the court and we had halftime and then everybody would sing, go Bruins, go. And everybody would shut up. And he would say, shake that thing.

47:13So that's my story. But far as proud, I want to tell you something that he said to me this year. I said, Bubba, I said, you know, I am so proud of you. I said, you just make me so proud. I'm proud of you. I just wanted to express that to him so he'll know it from my heart. Yeah. And he said, I'm not finished. He said, I'm not finished making you proud. And that's what he's been doing.

47:41With that being said, this ain't that. That ain't it. This cracking kiss makes some noise for our guests. A.I. and Mama Love.

47:59How does it feel to be on a Guinness book and be one of the biggest female superstars with the most longevity and relevancy in the game? I mean, honestly, it's a blessing. I'm super, super humbled. And it's funny when you talk about that. Remember, I didn't know what none of that meant. You know what I'm saying? I'm a new artist. So maybe we happy for you. Yes, everybody's happy. And I'm looking, I'm like, well, is that good? 500 ,000, is that a good number? You know what I'm saying? I've genuinely had no idea. Isn't a good number? Isn't a good number? So I was just like super appreciative. And to be able to be here today and still, as we both were in an arena in London, to a sold out 20 ,000 seater, holding a mic out, allowing people to sing on records is a blessing.

48:51You know what I'm saying? So I'm just so happy. I'm grateful. You know. Oh, man. You know we very competitive in our house. Because, you know, we didn't like that a lot. That means the baby got all that. That's the dagger, though, that she throws. Like, my debut did a half. No, no, she don't. But you did a half. No, no, no. No, no, no. No way. You did a half the first week. Oh, no, no. Down, down. You got me on that. There's nothing I can say. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. I'm looking at the video. Yeah. OK. Hold up. I'm 26. I'm 33. Hold up, Jada. That wasn't a week. 26 or 33. That wasn't a week. Hold up.

49:35Jada. That video come out. That was not a week. I'm going down. You might be. You might be. That was not a week. I'm not bringing the numbers. It's 10 million solely. Yeah. He didn't die me. He was 26. He was 26. about the week. Not talking about the week. Listen, man. Listen, let me run down the hardware that they got in their house. There's a lot of hardware. Just listen, ladies and gentlemen. Nelly. Three Grammys, four American Music Awards, two BET Awards, nine Billboard Awards. Nelly has sold over 21 million albums in the United States, one of the best selling rap artists in American history.

50:20Country Grammar Diamond,$10 million. Nellyville Diamond Plus won$11 million. Now, Ashanti won Grammy, two American Music Awards, six ASCAP Awards, eight Billboard Awards, first debut album 500 ,000 in the first week, triple platinum, chapter two, platinum, concrete rose, Platinum! 36!

50:5136 Christmas movies! Your lifetime favorite! BASE! BASE! Could we have a Christmas dream of Rosal Berry? Just... I've been counting my money forever! Yo! Yo! Yo! I mean, it's competitive in the house, man. and a star oh and a star the star can't forget the star can't forget the star yeah you know it gets real in there we love that though you know what I'm saying we love that that's beautiful competition I met a Shanti to put that under let me tell you something I met a Shanti it's a blessing could we could I talk about that talk about it I met a Shanti Shanti was like a studio we just a studio body you could call it It's studio rat.

51:44That's what they used to say. That's what they used to say. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying that. Go ahead. Studio body. She up in there. And the first day I met her, she was so upset because they broke into her car and stole her radio. This woman was ready to file charges to the moon and back. What happened? They just stole my radio. Crackhead broke the... I mean, it was like somebody murdered somebody. I'm up in that shit I'm like Yo, they stole a radio With the Benzibox Oh, you take the box It was like They stole her shit They stole my radio, bro And you know I would see her in the studio And then one day I asked him I said, yo What does the girl do?

52:31Right? Because they was like Gangsta rappers, right? So I'm like Ah, she sings R &B Right? And then she did The Big Pun I said I said, you want to write A hook for the Big Pun thing? And she killed it smoked that joint. She smoked that joint and then we did the What's Love. Yeah. And then after that, it was the princess of that was it. Hip-hop and soul. And she... Yo, no talk. Every time I see this, he was advocating. When we weren't together, Nelly, what are you doing? Every time I see her kiss, Nelly, my God, how you been? That's great. What are you doing? You're sad. That's why you need that percentage.

53:18You know what I'm saying? Now you got me. Now you tell me, at first he thought I was bugging out. Now you got me. Yeah, I used to be like, Joey, you're tripping. It's crazy, right? Because I also think of one situation, not to bring up anything negative because we just, but I remember the time I got into it with 50 Cent. Yo, Fiff, what's up? We performed in Germany in two days. But I remember the time when I got into it with him at the MTV Awards. You know, his business is really crazy, right? Because you think everybody your man, everybody this and this and that. Well, you was the only person out of all the rappers that I knew that I seen get up.

53:56And you was telling me, y 'all, I got you. Like, I'm holding you down. In that sense, when I was like, y 'all, 50 said this, and then he came back and dissed me. But you had my back. Well, I knew five. Me and Five always had a great relationship. That kind of distorted the... Well, no, because... And just to... Where was we at? MTV Awards. That's where I thought he was going. We were at the MTV Awards, and they were sitting like a table right behind us. Now, I didn't have too much to drink. I'm hype. This is right before... Kid Rock and Pamela Anderson. And Tommy Lee. Slapped Tommy Lee. Yeah. Slapped the shit out of Tommy Lee.

54:38Yeah. So there was something before Chris Rock and Will Smith. We were sitting at the table, right? They know that. And Kid Rock is sitting with us. Mm-hmm. And Tommy Lee is like a table over. And my cat, Kid Rock, that's my cat, too. He hot. He hot as fish grease. He's sitting right there. He's like, I should go. And I'm gassing him. He's not going to go do this. You gassing him? Well, I'm not gassing him. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, shit. It's me. if it was me. You know what I'm saying? So he does what he does. So what he did? He smacked who? Because I don't remember this. Tommy. Tommy Lee.

55:16Wow. You remember that MTV Awards out in Vegas? Yeah. We were sitting right next to them. We were sitting at the table. But Five was right back here, right? So I'm hyped. I didn't got hyped. I didn't got big. I said, babe, fix. I'll make that. I apologize. You want me to go over there? What? You make, don't be looking. you want me to go make she was like nah no way in my heart that I'm thinking she gonna tell me to go over there she's like yeah babe yep yep that's a New York girl that's a New York girl yo that's a New York girl so kiss I'm like I'm going so I turn around she can't see my face I'm walking towards five like hey man let me highlight you you know table full of G unit you know what I'm saying I'm like oh God, this is not going to go well.

56:11You know what I'm saying? And I started laughing, coming in, he cracked the smile and I was like, he fine, man. Hey, man. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Will you, my old lady, man, do me a favor, man. Apologize for me. I'm shawty, I'm sorry. That's exactly what he says. In the middle of the whole crowd in the audience. In the middle of the voice, I was like, you're right. I turned back around to her. What's up? What are you talking about? By the way, I had personally 20 meetings with him over her. Oh, my God. Yes. Without her even knowing. I done sat down with him 20 different times. It was like, yo, bro, she got nothing.

56:56Like, you know, that's my sister. You bugging out this, this, this. 20. Yeah. No, he didn't tell me to. Mo. I know she got nothing to do with him, but what you want me to do is war. Man. I was like, I was hot. Yeah. You was hot over that, right? Yeah. I didn't have nothing to do with it. And then after he said, he signed like, yeah, I. Yeah. I was like, okay.

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58:11Massive sci-fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth. I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, OK, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great.

58:46Because it served the story. People will say like, oh, my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Picture this. Me, Reese Witherspoon, in London. Ordering fish and chips so often, they might start wrapping me in paper. I'm traveling with my Wells Fargo Autograph Journey card, so I earn rewards wherever I book travel. Five times points with hotels, four times with airlines, three times on restaurants and other travel, and one point on other purchases. Imagine getting rewarded for eating a toad in the hole.

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1:00:54I see them pictures. It's like it's going to be here forever. I love that, man. We was kids in the home, but you pulled up to the Bronx. That meant something, though. That meant something because, you know, coming from Chicago, man, one of the things we wanted was just to be heard by New York. And for you to be like, yo, come on. Even though we's on the same label, if you thought I was on some weak shit, you'd have been like, ah. No. Thank you. Thank you, beloved. Thank you. We get the flag. That's the beloved of all beloveds. I'm going to tell you some shit. What's the second one? Well, the second one we done talked about a lot was, man, you practically saved my life.

1:01:36Oh, get the other flag. Get the flag back. Take the other flag. I'll break the flag up. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, Jay, Jay. Yo, that man really saved my life. Like, I was out on the West Coast with my guy, one of my guys I knew through one of my close homies, but he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation, the whole Ice Cube, McTen beef that we had. Told him we had squashed it. We doing it. We sitting there doing a commercial. This was the most money I was getting paid ever for something at that point in time. So we at peace. We like, yo, things is good. My God, he from Chicago.

1:02:15He just couldn't hold it. He couldn't hold it. So he started ruffling shit. And man, it just got a little heated. And I want to say that it's not because Fat Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally begged for your life. I literally got in the middle and was like, please, he's my friend. He's my brother. You know, some people take things personal. And they finally saw him. And he was on there, saw you, and they was talking crazy. And I was like, no way. This guy, I said, this is literally my brother. And I was begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please, this is my brother.

1:02:59Joe, you know, we've been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't. I just couldn't do it. And basically, I stood in the middle like, please, guys. Like, I cannot do it. But they settled. It was over after that day, right? It was over after that day. But you settled that. I'm like, man, we in California. Don't start nothing. that my homie already, because they already, like you said, they already wanted a piece of me no matter what. What? So my guy out there, he just going off. And anyway, I knew Joe. I ain't even hear that, but I ain't know everything he did. Oh, no. He did. I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen.

1:03:41And because he had a relationship. Super relationship. Still my brother. Shout out to the... Yeah, shout out to the Inglewood. Yeah, Inglewood. That's my family. Inglewood family was good. That's when... Fat Joe the gangster. I was like, this nigga here is this. Because he straight up was like, you can't do that to my man. It was like one of the movies where he's talking about good fellas. Good fellas. It was like good fellas. You can't get him. Hey, once again, I begged him. I was in their mercy. And I was just like, please, this is my brother. This is my family. I did that one time for Rich Plame, my best friend.

1:04:15One time they was about to do it. And not saying Rich and him ain't real deal. Right. Well, he was getting into it with a seven-headed monster, a guy who just kills. He's in jail for too many bodies. Right. And I had to jump in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, I can't. It's like, yo, fat boy, get out the way. I was like, oh, no, I can't. This is my family. I can't. I knew what it meant. They real deal. And this other guy's, you know, a Jeffrey Dahmer. And I'm a monster. And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please. Let me get in. I said, no. Not to knock him dead, Ed. Knock him dead. Y 'all had a yet up there.

1:04:57But they go. But they go. The man go. Because it's the first argument I ever had with him. Right? He goes the next day to Rich and they had blocked on Cypress and says, if Joe got in the middle, that means you're good guys. Let's become friends. And they wind up being best friends. My man's still in jail 37 years. But he went the next day, he took it on himself and said, if Fat Joe threw himself in the middle trying to squash it, these guys got to be good guys. Yeah. And it was all over, you know, staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls. And, you know, these guys, they kill each other over girls.

1:05:36These gangsters, man. A lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you, I had a guy, this guy was a maniac. He's still in jail too, 40 years. Right? and he was really, really. He turned his scared straight. No, no, because. No, he talking. A lot of wars have come over women. Over women. Most of them. Yo, but listen, this guy, all I'm going to say to you is this was a mass murder. He's still in jail 40 years. He would come to the club and he'd go, he's Puerto Rican. He'd be like, aye. And I'd be like, yo, what's up? Aye. The nana. He's talking about his wife was bad as shit too. She was fucking dudes.

1:06:17Like she was loose. So he come on and you know Jimbo from the barber shop? Yeah, he was with the everybody of his 10 guys. No, no, no, no, no. Not Jimbo. Yes, with the net. Jimbo won't be around in two more days. Like he would come all in. One time I argued with the nigga. I said, no. I don't want to hear that shit. You're a fucking liar. She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't do it. Yes, the nana. And everybody knew what that was. What? Somebody was disappearing over the nana. Yeah. No, I know maniacs like that, man. But you know, Common, man, you're the beloved of all beloved. Let's keep it, peace.

1:07:05Hey, man, I got my palo santa, man. Hey, I said, you know, I said, smoking all of a sudden. What's that, like smoking sage or something? It was supposed to protect us from that story. It's similar to say it's Palo Santo. It's Palo Santo. You know, it comes from the trees down in Chile. Bring in the good energy. Bring in the good energy. Move negative energy.

1:07:31I never really brag about jail because I only did four months. I got friends that did 20, 30, 40 years. But last night I get... I only did four days. Huh? I only did four days. Man, that's a lot. looking out the window for four days. Looking at the bus stop. What? I know you was at County, so you had black coffee, bologna sandwich, shit like that. I had one cup of Kool-Aid. Tell you something. I did time. Two vitamins. I got to explain this to you. I did time in the feds. Donuts. And there's two, you know, I'm thinking, right? Orange juice. Let me tell you, I'm just thinking, right? I grew up in the projects, right?

1:08:12and there's this grass in the middle of all the project buildings. We got big project buildings. Every building is 14th floor, 145 apartments. I counted all the doors. Right?

1:08:25Everybody was fighting. 14 floors, 145 apartments. I counted all the doors. I counted all the doors. Now, and everybody got nine kids. So this shit is like, you fuck up one guy, you gotta fight the other brother. You gotta fight Jamie, Jonathan, Crayford till you get fucked up till one of them found you out. You got to go up the line. Then the cock diesel brother come out. It's old. Good luck. Yeah. At least you stood tall. You fought him. You got, you got your ass whipped. That's where I come from. Projects is like gladiator. The point I'm trying to make is, is a big grass in my projects. Everybody has shootouts there.

1:09:03They have fights. You know, one day I go up to the roof of my building and I look at the grass and I I say to myself, was this like an experiment? Because like if you go up on my roof and you see the gun battles and the fights and everything that happened in the middle of the grass, you sit up there, it's almost like the Coliseum. And so where I'm getting to is when you go to the feds where I went, you got 2000 dudes, Jamaicans, Aryan nations, Spanish dudes, black dudes, these white American dudes. and there's only four tables. I'm just trying to... There's four tables with four chairs. That's 16 seats.

1:09:49And there's 2 ,000 guys. And it's right in front of the three TVs. You got the Spanish TV, the blackest guy. Don't know English. She looking at the mommies in the Spanish TV. Like, that's like... Del mundo. No, no, that shit is like... You might as well call that shit soft porn. Motherfucker looking at that. they don't gotta know what they talking about. They up in there like this every day, right? So you got four tables. Of course, I got a table, right? Ooh, I got a table. No, no, I walk in there in 10 minutes. In 10 minutes, I say, yo, who sits in them tables? Homeboy looked at me shook, because a lot of guys are pussy.

1:10:25They're not really real. Just because you in jail, you act tough, you get in jail, I watch people get smacked, punched in the face and said, my bag can keep walking. These guys cocked. These are playing basketball. nephew, you don't got to go in there for me to tell you. The guys you think is tough on your block, I watch guys get punched in their face and say, my bag, I'm sorry, and walk away. I never seen no shit like that. You got to fucking murder me. Like, you just can't do it, right? So I'm up in there. He does that. I go down to the table. Guy's sitting there. I'm like, you're my man. Get the fuck up.

1:10:59He don't want to get up. I say, you're my man. You got to get the fuck up. He got up. And he left. So I took the table. Ten minutes in there, right? Sit down. Half the jail hated me. A thousand niggas hated me because they was like, oh, he's not going to kick freestyles. These niggas in here on this bullshit, right? Who wanted you to run?

1:11:22Everybody rhyme in jail. J, they're like, everybody want to rhyme for you. I ain't let one dude rhyme for me. So I'm sitting down in the chair. They looking. Some of them hate me. Some of them don't. Whatever. Who gives a fuck, right? Only got four months anyway. I'm willing to be in the box for the four months. The point is, soon as I figured it out, like, I just needed like a week in there. Right? Because the first week, the feds don't give you commissary. I don't give a fuck if you Donald Trump. It takes you two weeks. I got him getting it. I walked in there. Listen, you got him getting it.

1:11:57I got him getting it. No, I got him getting it. He breaks the rules. Let me tell you, I walked in with$5 ,000 cash in my pocket to put in commissary. It still took two weeks. The point is the first meal I had to wait on line. And they were very generous. Everybody, they kept throwing, like the plate they kept throwing, they threw like six or eight of them on my table, right? When I tell you this shit tastes like dope. Listen, even the guys that mind their business, there's some guys in jail mind their business, don't bother nobody. They over there, they don't talk to nobody. You know, they're good people.

1:12:31When I tell you all of them looked over and wanted to see my first reaction to his fucking food, this was dog shit, this food, right? My dog was eating better than this. They all look and they was like, okay, he know what it is in here now, right? So I go like this, but very quick, I got me an Italian chef. They had a chef down in the thing, Chef Junior. He wasn't pussy, so don't think he was just Italian. But he was my chef. He'd make me homemade ice cream, mozzarella. They would steal the clams, and he would make me Linguinean clams. So it's all type of shit. We were dumbing out, right? Then I got the guy.

1:13:07I got pick up a guy. I told you about Hong Kong's Mongolian. So in jail, in jail. How you think the nigga Hong Kong's Mongolian? Because he was the guy nobody wanted. And so in jail, if you white, you with the white guys. You black, you with the black guys. You with the Spanish. he was a white guy that the white guys ain't want but I saw him and he was man he had that boot strength so like he played basketball and nobody wanted to deal because he'll hit you with an elbow or shit but he was strong so I said my man come with us man you eat with us you with us I gave him a name Hong Kong's Mongolia and one day he comes up to me cause the guy's partially slow I mean, but he's just, no, no, he's not slow.

1:13:58He's just slow. He's a little bit old. He ain't go past second grade. But this guy was, you know, he was. Damn, second grade. Nah, but you. Give him at least six grades. No, this guy take out 10. Give him six. Give him six or seven. This guy would take out 10, 20 guys. Like, it was all out war. He's going to take out 10, 20. He's Hong Kong's Mon Cody. Yo, look at that. He used to stand there like this. The white guys was looking like, oh, shit. It got to be something to this. Fat Joseph snatched up this guy, and I'm calling him. And the old job, yo, listen, ain't no different than this show. Hong Kong's Mongolian.

1:14:40He's walking through. What's up, boss? They looking like we made of a stake. We didn't recruit this thing. He's the Hong Kong. He was like Shador. They let him go. They let him go. he went past all the drafts and I seen the sparkle in him I said yo this is Hong Kong's money he come up to me one day he said boss I said what's up he said I just realized Hong Kong and Mongolia is two different places I said my man shut the fuck up be happy I gave you a day get the fuck out of here okay boss okay boss he goes on but I got this story right I thought about it last night and I don't really brag about jail because these guys did 10 ,000 years in jail but in the feds less now than ever but they always said you go to the feds and guys got money in there so next to me in the table don't ask me how they got the table was for latinos but they they could be i'm in miami so they could be like cuban but i don't think they cuban but you could tell they got money like in the streets if i pulled up in the cullinan they pulling up in the college.

1:15:49They're pulling up. These guys got money. They're not bothering nobody. They got money. I don't really talk to them because they really ain't my type of guys. I'm sorry if y 'all watching. They wasn't my style of guy. You know what I'm saying? And so one day we sitting there, we watching TV and the guy goes and orders a pizza pie. Now, at least jail I was in a pizza pie is like caviar, right? Everybody ain't have a pizza pie. Any normal person ain't have... You had a real pizza pie or something? No, no. Jail pizza pie is still a big deal. In jail, I watch niggas throwing bananas down they shit.

1:16:27I pull like niggas do the most derelict shit for anything in there. Like, I mean, grown men, yo, watching your back while you're stealing a banana. That's how bad it is in jail, bro. This shit is really a third world country in America. It's bad in there. But anyway, pizza, they up to like 20 pizzas. For no reason. They couldn't even eat it. Y 'all, another pizza. Every time a pizza came, they kept looking at me. My table was right next to me. It was like, I go in my cell. Okay. In the feds, at least the jail I'm at, the eggs they give you in the morning is powdered eggs. They had never seen a real egg in the jail.

1:17:09A fucking egg. Think about where you go to the store and buy a dozen. they had never seen a real egg in the jail I was in I go in my cell I come out Mike weighs right there the whole fucking shit you see crack a egg bam one that was it yo they had never seen an egg bam one bam two bam I'm up to 40 50 eggs just bam Bam! Bam! Bam! Like, the whole jail's watching! The arm is... Yo! Yo! Yo! Yo, I'm trying to... 40, 58! How about I keep going to like 6 to 7? 6 to 7? 6 to 7? 6 '7", like this? Them motherfuckers look at me dizzy. They learned. The pizza dudes. Bro, they'd never seen an egg. I bust open so many eggs.

1:18:25The scrambled eggs was so big. And I just kept going like this, like letting them know, like, yo, bro, I got shit you ain't even see in this fucking jail. Y 'all trying to play with me with some pizzas? Y 'all got me fucked up. I get up to the six, seven. I give it to Chef Junior, let him go. You know what's crazy is we had, and this, this, this, no offense, but this slight racist, what I'm about to say right now. We had, no, no, no, I'm telling you. We had one Asian guy in the whole jail. One Asian. And I would bother him every day. Like, yo, you make Chinese rice. You know how to cook. You know how to cook.

1:19:06You make Chinese, I'm a fat dude. I prefer, like, listen to me, man. I want the Chinese rice, the man telling me, yo, I don't cook. I keep bothering him. Yo, he's like, I don't cook. I don't cook. I'm like, yo, you got Chinese, you know. Huh? They know how to make it. I got to give him it. He wouldn't let me plunk him into making Chinese rice. I kept bothering him. Like, yo, you make Chinese, you got Chinese food. You got Chinese, you know how to, he was like, no, I don't know. All right. So one day is my man's birthday. and I give the dude the white towel like in Mr. Chow and I have him serve my man for his birthday like his man.

1:19:47I say, yo, Mr. Chow, baby. Mr. Chow with the white towel over his head. I'm like, yo, Mr. Chow, man, in the feds, man. You got Mr. Chow. Yo, we was clowns, man. This thing is crazy. No, no. Yo, listen. Clowns. I said So I go on a visit and somebody slips me some Jordans. Now in the feds, you're either wearing a gray sweatsuit or a beige. I don't give a fuck who you are. They are not. No one has Jordans. I got it by default. They told me, yo, slip your shit off. I slipped it off in the visit. Then I put them on as Jordans. Biggest mistake of my life. I go up in the elevator the whole elevator's life.

1:20:45You know, because in this building, they got these elevators. You can put a tractor trailer in there. So they got 300 guys on the building. The whole visit is looking at my feet like. I walk in the fucking tier. Puerto Rican dude, barber. I would love to see him. He was a barber with a little tail from Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, he was a real one. So he runs up and goes. Like I tell you, it's real racial in there. He runs up and goes, Maybach! Maybach! He starts screaming. If I wanted to be on the low, it's no low. He's screaming Maybach. Maybach. Basically, he's saying, yo, the Puerto Rican, the Latino guy, the Maybach, like the Cullinan on his feet.

1:21:28You ain't never see this shit. He telling everybody, yo, them Jordans is a Maybach in here, man. It's a fucking Maybach. And he's screaming and everybody start looking up from all corners. So I get the spaghetti feet damn near. You know, my shit looking like Jerry Lewis. I'm walking too. For sure, I'm in trouble. Right? For sure. I'm not scared that somebody's stealing a sneaker. I'm in trouble. Right? So I felt like homeboy, what's his name? Huggy Bear with the fish tank pumps. Remember when he came out the jail, he had the fish in the shoes years later and they was playing public enemy. this shit that I'm going to get you sucker.

1:22:07Bro, I felt like Huggy Bear walking out there in them shits. Sure enough, the next day, they rush my cell. They got these people, like internal affairs or whatever they call SIS. They rush the cell. Boom. I'm working out. They pull out the Jordans. I go in the thing. The assistant warden is there. Now this woman, shout out to the woman. She's like tough. Real tough. So I said, hey, But I was always nice to this lady. I don't know why I was always nice to her. Anytime I passed that, anytime I did something, I was like, hey, I had that report. So she says, none of these people are your friends, Joe.

1:22:51We got like 40 phone calls from the hotline talking about you got the Jordans. So I'm like, you know, I know they're not my friends. She said, do you know who we got in here? I said, no. She said, such and such, the leader of the shower pass. Such and such, the leader of the guerrilla fuck army in Columbia. Such and such, the kingpin of all, because it's Miami's the hub. So if you doing work out there, Jamaica, Santo Domingo, Puerto Rico, the killers are all killers. They throw them over. It's Miami's the hub, right? And she said, and do you know every floor I go to? whose fucking name I hear the most.

1:23:35She said, fat motherfucking Joe. I said, yo, what you want me to do? Like, I've been humble. I don't get into arguments with nobody. She's like, Jody, not your friend. They called up and she gave me a chance. Thank God. But that was, you know, they all called on me. All you guys, you know who you are. They all called on me about the Jordans. But, you know, Joe was different. I don't advise nobody to go there. To me, it's like communism. it's a third world country if your family don't send you no money then you have no resort but to do crazy things man but I was just thinking about that today because I don't try to think about that you know what I'm saying sometimes it can't escape your mind yeah last night I don't know it's the simple things man I was just thinking about it because you know my whole life I've been chasing the stunt my whole life I've been flexing my whole life since I'm a kid I've been trying to make a movie and I just got, I started laughing when I thought about the eggs and the fucking, the pizza pie.

1:24:37Like, I really stunted on them with the eggs.

1:24:42I always think about the late, great DJ Clark Kent. Super producer. Best in peace to my brother. Sneaky King. God's favorite, man. God's favorite. He, you know, this guy was the best in the world. He passed away. but I always think about when he said cause you know he did it all like he was cool with Big E Jay Z like he put them on he started with Cool Herc he seen his whole shit from hip hop he wasn't that old he wasn't he's one of Cool Herc's original DJ Superman Clark Kent was down with Cool Herc that's how far he go back then I met DJ Khaled and DJ Nasty at a cool at a Clark Kent battle he had a battle and we came up that's how I met Khaled online around Flojo time.

1:25:30And so he said that Biggie and Jay-Z, both his mans, and Biggie would be like, yo, why you say Jay-Z? But he used to tell Biggie that Jay-Z's better than him. Right? And Biggie would be like, how you think he nicer than me? He'd be like, yo, because you a rapper, he's an emcee. He's like a poet. You know, this is early Jay-Z, before all the hits. He's a poet, whatever the case may be. and so to me the difference of an MC and a rapper is an MC is and you have huge hits too but you more, you got your hand on the third rail, Tlaib, Kualib Jadakiss, Common these are KRS MCs, rappers what he's referring to is the guys on Billboard that crossed over and we think they commercial shoot.

1:26:24What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and Jay-Z where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than son. But he was like, nah, Jay nicer than you. He's an MC. Of course, this is before success. What do you think the difference between an MC and a rapper is? I think an MC is just what it means. You know what I mean? You controlling the maestro. You can do everything. You have diversity. You can do different. You can do a beer commercial. You can do an R &B feature. You can do it all. A rapper's just playing with words. The ability to put words together. MC can control the crowd.

1:27:11He can have the crowd in his hands. He can engage with the crowd. Yeah, but Nelly, he does stadium. Not just even the crowd. We're just... Hey, it's all about the money. Now you're going into being an entertainer. You know what I mean? Is it an entertainer? Is it a rapper? Is it MC? Or is it a songwriter? Now you got people that wrote the song that you never even see. Yeah, Pac was everything. An actor, a dancer, a rap. Pac had all the tools of everything. He was everything. He could do drama. He could make music. Because I'm trying to find out who's the perfect one. So you say Pac. That's why I so many.

1:27:49It's like a Picasso. Yeah. It's like, it's the best song right in the game. You got guys like Hov, who in I Love the Doe was talking about, you know, we cop the hottest Vs, then we play Monopoly with real cash, and that big come on and shit, right? Was you ever there for any of them, like, big songs? I was there for Hypnotize. I was there when he wrote Hypnotize. Was you there for I Love the Doe or anything like that? I was there for I Love the Doe. No! We was actually in the midi room. You know what I mean? They both was there? Yeah, it was no fucking emails or none of that. You had to be there.

1:28:29So you seen them both going at it right there? It wasn't battling or none of that. They was trying to make a hit song, which they did. Did you see any paper? Did you see any paper and rhymes? No. It was all off the top. No, listen. I didn't see, listen, you interrogated me. You gonna tell a real story or not? Everything I tell is real. You don't got a hood for a reason. Listen, we was in the midi room. We was the young locks. And Hov kept coming in our room, like, giving us an update of what's going on. Like, yo, I gotta go first. I'm about to go first. This, that. And he's like, no, go in there and kill that shit.

1:29:09You know what I mean? And that's what it, he was probably going to the bathroom. Didn't he stop in the midi, kicking with us? You know what I mean? And we actually seen Angela Wingbush. That's not a sample. That's her singing. I love the dough. We seen her laying a hook. We seen DMX laying, pray and pray for my downfall. That ain't a sample either. We seen them record that live. We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life After Death. There's only a couple features on there. So we love Big forever. You know what I mean? We thankful to have been around for the process of life after death and slightly before that.

1:29:50It was a beautiful thing. But, yeah, we was in the studio the day they made Love the Do. I was in the studio for Love the Do. I think I was in the studio. Even I was there for a lot of them. When we would come for our session, we would hear what he just did. Long kiss goodnight. A lot of them. Of course, we was there for last days because we featured on it. Yeah, but you know, when I think about when we talk about the perfect MC, the perfect rapper, perfect performer, entertainer, came up a lot today. I think DMX shows, which one of them DMX songs? He was another one that everything. You was there every song he recorded.

1:30:29Not every. I was there for a lot. Shut him down, open up shop. I don't think he wanted to do that. When Swish first brought it to him, he didn't want to do it. He didn't want to do that? I don't think, at first, I don't think he was, like, happy to do it until it when it was done. When I tell you. It was a major hit. And at this time, I was still halfway in the Bronx. So I'm at the car wash. And when I tell you, every single car, I don't care if it was a Spanish dude that would be playing salsa. They was playing that shit. Like, that song had me the dizziest. You know how you go, Fordham Road?

1:31:08Where you going, Yonkers, when you want to see if your record was popping? Like, Benjamin, you came outside. Yeah, you go to 125th, you go to Fordham. Fordham, right? I used to do that. If I drop a record, everybody like your joke. You go to Fordham, you see the cars coming up and down the hill. I stand there to see who's playing my album, whatever. Up and down the hill, yeah. Man, I have never witnessed in the history of the Bronx. Stomp, shut him down. Yo, I was dizzy. It was everywhere. Like, that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song. That was that shit right there.

1:31:42And he didn't even want to record that. I think Swiss had a little problem making him get into the lay. Once you find him with the final mix and mastered version came out. And they knew what it was. You know, when I went. Shot the video. It was out of here.

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1:35:43Yeah, I used to listen to some Foying and all that. I want some shit. Bring it! We ain't going anywhere! We ain't going anywhere! Like, I'm trying to listen to some shit like that. I listen to it like I'm me because I'm me you feel me like you get me in my zone like I'm here no I'm with the Carter 3 I'm with everything Lil Wayne ever did in fact Lil Wayne let's salute Wayne let's salute the game right because when you listen to traditional west coast music although game could touch it his sound has always been universal it could be east coast whatever game got a sound that could go everywhere right and with Lil Wayne he was the first guy to come like really straight out the south of course you got Goody Mob you got Andre 3000 but that sound like south music this guy was rapping to like hardcore beats but was throwing these flows on the shit it never been seen I'll tell you one Lil Wayne story we do the taking over with Khaled I thought I had everybody When you see crack, better duck like the Mac.

1:36:56Gotta eat spats. I don't give a fuck. I thought I had everybody on that. I heard everybody's verse. No, I don't think that all the time. I'm not. No, for sure. I'm not delusional. No, I don't always think that. I'm confident. No, no, sometimes. I know it's going to be like that, but in the time being, I'm confident. I don't think I'm the best. I make anthems. It is what it is. but that one record I thought I had him kissed and then we go and I go with Khaled he says yo come with me let's convince Wayne to get on this record I said no problem we playing for Wayne Wayne is in the studio he's not even in the big studio he's upstairs in the in the hit factory but upstairs he got a room with just the whole shit of speakers and he's up in there and he plays the shit and he's staring at the speakers he was just he gets in the studio in the booth they crank it up he goes I am the beast feed me hip hop or feed me beats I ain't on Let's On Easy Street why Let's On Easy Street I said motherfucker why did I bring talent over here beg this motherfucker to get on this record like I begged I begged you to get on New York I don't know if you recall Fat Joe begged you to get on New York and send you that beat Lil Wayne, I begged him to get on taking over.

1:38:22I'm telling you the truth. Okay. I got you. Remember. No, I'm just telling you. That's what happened. I'm telling you what happened. Same thing with Lil Wayne. I go over there. Yo, we really need you. Weezy. I am a beast. Feed me hip hop or feed me beast. I ain't more wrapped on DJ street. Why relax on DJ street? I was like, It's crazy. I walk out of that fucking studio dizzy by it. No, it was... Hello? You're thinking, oh, yeah, Joe, you know you got to feel like you the best. No. I walked out of them stairs knowing I got destroyed on that shit. I'm walking down the stairs like... Gallo's like, yo, we got it.

1:39:10You heard what he said? I'm like, fuck out of here, bro. The motherfucker that destroyed my shine like a motherfucker on this bitch. I thought I finally had these guys. Nah. Nah. Lil Wayne, he a different. We taking over. Monte Ellis, he was a step ahead of everybody. I'm telling you guys, you look at him and he's at the basket beautifully. Right? Lil Wayne, he was a step ahead of it. He was a little bit faster. He was a little, he was a little, it was something to him where he dumb out. You like that too, but he dumb out. Like he just be like there and he ain't gonna let go. He's like a pit bull.

1:39:56Once he got you and you like, oh shit, he just won't stop. He'll just keep doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on that shit. Come on, man. Man was taking beats. He was taking what, Jay-Z? What's the shit he did over the Jay-Z beat? Remember when Lil Wayne did that? We didn't even know you could rhyme to that shit. With Jay-Z beat. Oh, no. He did one of them. I don't know what it was. He did one of them shit so legendary, that Lil Wayne on there. I didn't know you could rap like that on that beat. Like, we did easy. He heard that shit.

1:40:35I thought of this crazy story, right? It's going to lead to a question for me. This is crazy. It's insane. It's an insane one. But it's the truth. It's uncapable. So I got a friend. He passed away. We used to call him Joe Bentley because he owns so many Bentleys. When we go to Miami, we used to have all these drop-top Bentleys. This guy had too many Bentleys. Like an Italian dude too much. He died, you said? He died. But I'm just telling you this story because I thought about it on the way here. I was like, who it be. But anyway, so this guy must have been the original capper because, you know, everything I say is true.

1:41:20These people just ain't have an incredible life like this. So they can't, they can't comprehend the shit I be saying, right? So this man was the bigger capper than me. So every time, he was so rich, but every time he would tell me stories, I'd be like, he's full of shit. Told me he used to fuck, sit, share. One day he picks me up in my house in Miami, pulls up to Star Island, Cher opens the door on the bustier, and this and that, he pulls her ass, walks in. Shit, you can't believe, right? So the man tells me that when O.J. Simpson was in the Bronco, he was in the airport with the private that O.J.

1:41:58Simpson is his man, right? He was the one waiting for him, for him and A.C. Green to come on a private breakout. This guy did... He's telling me. I'll count it. But the point is, the man telling me all this shit, the whole time, I know, yo, Fendi, I know he's my man. He's filthy rich. But the shit he was telling me, I could not believe. Right? So one day, it's his wife's birthday. And he says, yo, we're throwing, his wife is named Nicole. Joe Bentley, his wife is named Nicole. So he says, yo, we throwing her birthday party in my other house up in like where Trump lives, Palm Beach or some shit.

1:42:42We pull up. This shit got white horses. The guy had too much money, right? I go with the terror squad. It's me, Remy, Pistol Pete. This is why I got witnesses with this one. We going there. OJ Simpson is in the house. So Remy and Pistol start smoking blunts with him. they having the best time with OJ. OJ was smoking? Smoking blunts with Remy and pistol, right? Remy said she even got a picture of that, right? So I go like... You can murder two people smoking blunts is easy. Yeah. You right. You right. The moral to the story is when they came down to cut the cake, happy birthday, Nicole. Joe Bentley puts the machete in OJ's hand.

1:43:32And he said, you did it, nigga, you did it. and OJ start chasing him around the house with the fucking knife. Somebody got, y 'all got to get an animator and turn these stories. No, no, shout out to Mr. Commodore. That's what we need. Mr. Commodore just already started, you seen the shit he did? He did like when I robbed the gym, he played it over. He's white-faced with blonde hair, fat belly out. He's doing the Charlie Murphy, but listen to what I'm saying. OJ starts chasing him around the house with the knife. You say, you did it, man, you did it. The fucking... Who would be the OJ Simpson of 2025 if somebody killed their wife or something like that?

1:44:16What the fuck is he talking about? Who would stop TV? What are you talking about? Who would stop TV if they was in the white Bronco chasing them? They might have allegedly killed their wife. In 2025, who's the celebrity? Any celebrity. Any... No. Yeah. No. That's murder and fame? So you think any celebrity would have the TV going crazy? Yeah. So you ain't got one pick. OJ wasn't even a big celebrity when that shit happened. He just was OJ. My pick is Tiger Woods. Because you got a white girl. It got to be a white girl, right? To make this shit go crazy. And white people. Where did this come from?

1:45:02I thought he had a question for you. I do. Here's the question. The question is, I was setting him up. Who's the OJ of the day? Who's 2025 as a celebrity allegedly did some shit like that? Who would every channel turn on to? Anybody that killed two people. But when you say that element, now you're talking about the white girl. Does it have to be that element? No, I'm just thinking about how crazy it can get. Will Smith. From slap to murder.

1:45:35Will Smith running is crazy. Oh, you can't get... Oh, no, you might be Italian. And Jazzy Jeff is driving. Jazzy Jeff is... And he got the orgs called. You see where I'm at? He's DJ driving. He's DJing while he's driving. And as he's driving, it's in West Philadelphia, born and raised. Oh. Because I'm thinking Tiger Woods got the white wife. He's golf. The white people watch golfing. Because the white people love OJ. That's what made it so crazy. Right? Yeah, but it's 2025. Black men murdering white women don't have the same cachet. Yeah. Yo, yo. Yo, the views of this ain't... Yo, this is out of control.

1:46:16Let me tell you one of the funniest stories I ever heard. This nigga's flirting with the legend. The Mike Tyson with Eve at the awards, and he was like, yo, you got to take the bass out of the boys. Chill, Mike. That shit. I told him that story. What's that story? I don't know that story. One day Mike was talking crazy to Eve. Like what crazy? Out of this world. Picture I'll eat your kids and I'll fuck you in your ass. Not like that. Not like that, but. Yeah, no, he was saying that crazy shit to him. He must have looked it like a steak. You thought he was going to fuck you up? Listen to the story.

1:46:59You know when you see something and you say something in your mind? He was doing that, but it wasn't in his mind. He was just, whatever he was thinking, he was saying it. And me, Styles and Luch is like, somebody got to be the crash dummy. Then we got to Hulk. Somebody got to get their whole face broke. And then we're going to Hulk them after that. We did 20 first fingers about 20 million times. Nobody wanted to take the first game. Mike was telling her that crazy shit. I want to tell you. He was saying that crazy shit to her. You know, he did that to Remy when we was in his house. That's after she shot the girl or before?

1:47:44That's before she allegedly shot the girl. During the time he went to his house, he opened the door ass naked. Grand jury, she can't do the time. He opened the door ass naked. I was like, yo, Mike. I'm going to keep hearing that. No, no, I see your Mike. Yo, Mike is doing that. Yo, you got to have heart to tell Mike Tyson, like, yo, my man, throw the towel on, man. And I'm with some allegedly... You got his house, though. Yeah. I'm with some allegedly... He was like, yo, Joe, you know this is the boxing suite. Yo, my man, you got to stop. Then we go inside, and the type of things he was telling Remy, Ma, I felt pussyed.

1:48:24If I didn't like, like address it, like I had to be like, yo, Mike. Oh, that might have to be around the same time. That was the same shit. Mike was some horny demon shit. He was losing his fucking mind. Just barking up. Yo. Yo, I and Mike is crazy. He was like, yo, Joe, you know, he showed me a brand new Benz. It was like a 500. Some brand new shit. Never drove. He was like, yo, you just leave her here. You got the Benz. You know, the shit was crazy. Like, I was like, yo, my man. Just leave her here.

1:48:57That's some terrible shit. When he was looking at me, Remy's eyes looked at me. Her eyes opened so big. She was like, nigga, you better not leave me in this fucking place. I think her brother was with us too. Everybody was looking like, yo, we're going to have to pound Mike Tyson out. We have no pause, no choice. We're going to have to like, it's nothing we can do. He was like, yo, showed us the brand new band shit was like 150, 200 nobody even had that shit like that baby, shit still had the sticker it was like ah she gotta go with us nah that shit was crazy I was in the studio with Big though for real, I just always wanted to ask you that he had ball, he wanted Big needed his studio he wrote sometimes, I gotta I have a half of I have like a quarter of smoking line optimals.

1:49:56That verse, I got the other on paper. Can I buy that? Hell no. Yo, I can't lie to you. I never said that. I'm just serious. Yo, I never said that. Look at that. Yo, I never said that. You got some pun? Don't tell me you got some pun. He said it first. I got it. I was with Biggie when he did hypnotize. Look at that. He was writing on paper. You was in the studio? Well, Bigger writes some of the shit on the game. In the studio with Biggie Smalls when he did Epitaph. Nobody got a whole three verses of him written. Because even the shit I got is only a little barge than the rest. Gotcha. I seen him.

1:50:29I never seen him. By the way. In the last days. Let me take off. Let me take off. I'm turning off. You don't want me to get off. Jay the crap. That was my shit right there, too. Listen. You heard this? That's it. Listen. You get the other story. We did last days. That 1800s, especially, you look at, guys. We did last days. Yeah, yo, we still in the hood. so we in the hood selling crap they call us yo I gotta come to daddy's house to get on big house we still got joints on us we used to be in daddy's house with packs on they can't be seasoned them got Fendi sweaters and all that we got army suits with packs on we gonna be like them niggas but anyway we there this day we on the block so we bring like 3-4 of our niggas with us to get their big Cold Mafia is there.

1:51:18Big got Branson. And he got the liquid. Hey, sometimes. Oh, the weed Branson. Branson. Shout out to Branson. Coming back up. Couple mayonnaise jars of Branson. And he used to sometime was a rare occasion. He'd get this liquid hash. That you got to put it on your finger. Smear it on the blunt first. Oh, he was fucking with the hashish back then, big? It's liquid. He's sitting late. He's writing them bars. We doing the verses. We find out that beat is from Havoc. Niggas is hype. We writing this shit. everybody lay their verse. Niggas is high. Niggas is knock. Everybody in the whole studio is fucking cloud 77.

1:51:53Half-baked. Soon as niggas is in a deep slumber, be out. Yo, let me go away and do my verse. Niggas went in and he was on a stool, but his leg was still hurt. Dropped that shit and woke everybody up like they gave him a smelling salt.

1:52:12Rack superhero shit right there, bro. If you notice on Life After Death, there's not that much features. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't. Young locks, they be featured on there. That was a nice accomplishment. Man, then he should have that nigga Bulletproof, man. I don't know what the fuck I still say that. Biggie, my favorite rapper all the time. I be fighting old Big. That's my favorite. That nigga shouldn't have been in Cali. So niggas always look at it like that. No disrespect to nobody. See, he shouldn't have been in Cali. I just got killed. No, no, no. Save it for your show. What? Save it for what?

1:52:41I don't know. This shit ain't going 12 hours. No, no, it's a good thing to talk about. What's the fight? That was our first time ever in LA. Hmm. I was with him. You was with him? He was smiling. He was happy to be there. It's not one of them, I'm seeing all these shits on the ground, seeing shits, Puff made him go there. He wanted to be there. He was happy. He was happier than I ever seen him. Gotcha. At daddy's house over there. Little C told us the same thing. Even the party. Listen, I know you get mad. I feel you shit up, but I ain't got to keep it right. You got to let him talk. You said your Hinchpin story?

1:53:14Let me say my PR story. Oh, I got you. I got you. Down to the party that you see, the last picture with the cane, the thing, him, Stevie J, Puff. We in there. We was mad. I don't know what son happened with Puff. We was over there, Ice Griller. We went over to him in that picture you see with the shades of the cane. Him. Shake that shit off, he told us. It was my single release. Whatever's going on with Diddy, we handle it when we get back home. Here goes some Chris style or Dom Pee, whatever was the thing. Gave us like two ounces. Say, go over there. Shake that shit off. We got my single. And that was the last shit he ever said to me.

1:53:54Everybody left, went to the party. That's when that shit happened next time. What I could say to you is. Well, Pac passed already. Why would you have him in LA? That's all I'm saying. Pac was dead already. You know the beef is. Listen. It's a hard thing to say because I seen him. He was happy like Chris. He wasn't like that. They come, they want to kill. That nigga was like that. He was chilling. He was chilling. I understand, but I just, in my mind, when I look at hip hop. You know what we got? Because we get to look at it. Now we get to look at it being a little older. Pop just died. Now we older.

1:54:27He should have been nowhere near that shit. So y 'all don't agree, but Pop just died. No, when we look at it now. Yeah, you're right. He shouldn't have been over there, but what they're trying to say. One of the things. What him and Little C said on air was he wanted to be there. It ain't like we thinking, but force the nigga to go. They said he wanted to be there. I was negligent. I be each his own bottle of 1800. If I didn't speak to him. I spoke to him. I seen him. He told us what did, you know what I mean? He told him. I see it. If I didn't, even yeah, I'd be with yeah, yo. Because I love that nigga.

1:55:04It crushed me. My first time in LA, B.I. shot. I still had a beeper. My mind's just beeping me. This shit is big. Facts. That's crazy. I didn't even know you was there. It's all the way down full of knives, but it's my mind's cold. Because he know you went big. Of course. Of course. That shit, when I go down that block, when I go to that light to this day, I fucking shake. But I seen, I spoke, I was next to him. He was fucking big. He didn't seem like he was forced to be there. He was one of the happiest I actually ever seen in my life over there. See, the reason why I'm so passionate about it, because I look at it like rappers are not - Look what I fucking did.

1:55:39Rappers are not superheroes no more. Now street niggas are, or shooters are, or skimmers are. Rappers are not superheroes. So when we came up, niggas were superheroes. Big Ellie Bonics. Fat Joe, Jealous One's Envy. Y 'all dropping. And no disrespect to Diddy, but no more shiny suits. Remember when y 'all niggas went from that era to that era? It was crazy. Summer Jam. J with Nas. Know what I'm saying? Ether. We love the beef. So when you look at Tupac and Big, that was like one of the most biggest beefs we knew. I remember being by the radio and waiting for, I think Flex played it first. When Big played, who shot you?

1:56:14And me and motherfuckers would be like, yo, that's not a diss record. I'd be like, what? In my mind, I wasn't nobody. I'm coming from Jamaica Avenue, down with Guy Brewer. And I'm like, oh, so I'm waiting near the radio to hear who shot you. And I'm like, oh, this shit is hard. Who shot you? I remember when that shit dropped, records was exclusive. One DJ will have it. Y 'all niggas will drop, maybe one DJ or two DJs will have it. You know what I'm saying? so let's not act like in the rap game we don't like B cause just now it's been since the beginning of the time we love it, KRS won the F's shit it's always been B that's when it gets fucked up the difference is, let me tell you the difference is so you said hip hop police right so hip hop police, yeah they want to put 50 in jail but the bulletin board don't got 50 They got you, your best friends.

1:57:06Of course. They got the niggas that be with y 'all, the this, this, that. And they waiting for them to make the mistake to run that Rico. Of course. Right? So you got to understand that it's the entourage. You understand? They feel like they're impressing you. Y 'all, I'm going to go pop this. You know how many times I had to talk people off the cliff, like guys crying for me, like, please. He's at the club right now. Cherry Lounge. Let me let him go. I'm like, yo, bro, the whole world knows we have beef with this guy. The planet Earth. If you lay him out, then that's for life. We would have been here 20 years later.

1:57:49You know he did it.

1:57:54The top five greatest hip-hop songs ever. I'ma let you set it off. There we go again. I'm going to let you set it off. I hate you. And yo, artists, producers, stop getting fucking mad. We love all of y 'all. It's more than five. If we don't fucking pick that song or whatever, y 'all keep eating me up, popping shit. Like, yo, stop. I love all of y 'all. Y 'all all are supposed to be the greatest of all time. You're forcing me to do this. He's going to pick five. I'm going to pick five. Rob Bass, do not call me and curse me out tomorrow. When this shit drops. You got the right to, because it takes two.

1:58:33It takes two. It could be, because, you know what I'm saying? It's millions of them, though. I don't want them victimizing me, making me do this. That's right. That's right. Top five biggest hip-hop songs of all time. You see why this is a bad thing? Because it goes off your age. I can say five, and there's somebody a new person. Never heard it. But it's okay. That's not fair. It's okay. Our demographic is people our age, real hip hop, and then we got some young kids who really want to know the real. The top five hip hop songs of all time. How the fuck am I supposed to know? I don't know, but what you think when you hear it and you hear it and you're just like, yo, this is the biggest shit ever.

1:59:25See, I'm trying to think of when since I ever first heard hip-hop to now. Oh, now that's hard. I got nothing but cluster. No, that's hard. I'm drawing white noise. Why don't you go first? Damn, you set me up. This is your type. This is all you right here. You go first. I'll say hip-hop hooray. Naughty by nature. I'll say still Dre. That's where it gets tricky. I'll say... I'm just saying biggest hip-hop shit. You get caught up? Hold up, hold up. You get caught up thinking. I'll say New York, Alicia Keys, and Jay-Z. Right? Bouncing around years. All right, you made it easier for me. I like this.

2:00:16Because I could easily... That's three? What do you got? Three or four? What three I said? What three I said? I said New York, hip-hop, array, and... New York, Alicia Keys, and I think we got the best New York hip hop record. I'm just saying. Name the five already, crack. Hip Hop Array won the first. Hip Hop Array? Huh? Hip Hop Array won the first Grammy, the first Grammy for the rap album, for a rap album in 1996. Look at that hip hop fucking hooray. Okay, I got Hip Hop Array. I got, what was the second one I said? Still Dre. right? You know, you hear them pianos, huh? And then we got New York.

2:01:04You got Hovind, two of the greatest songs of all time. He on two of the greatest songs of all time. You only on three, though. You got two more. Biggie Hypnotize. Biggie Hypnotize, right? And fuck it. I'll go cliche. I'll go Tupac, Dear Mama. I need a... I'm not... You did all... Those is all fucking top 10 songs. I can't be mad at it. You're talking about of all time, right? Yeah. You think I just hit a certain age group? There's no way to be right or wrong. I think those songs is... That's exactly the point. There's no way to be right or wrong. so my people don't call me and curse me out every time I do a producer every time I do a this every time I do a that they want to fucking kill me like yo I love everybody man but I'm just telling you hip hop parade oh hey oh I'm talking about hypnotize New York this nigga's fucking me up I'm talking about the biggest shit He fucked me up.

2:02:23I don't know, man. Let me say nobody take nothing because I don't like doing these. So I'm on y 'all side where y 'all call him and flip on him and everybody call crack because this is his idea. But if I got to give you five. I can't. Let me try. One of them got to be something from Snoop. What? Gin and Juice or the G thing or one of them shits is definitely one of. Snoop and Dre together got one of them. I don't know which one. Take your pick. That's one. Count that as one. Right? Now, Run DMC, King of Rock. Oh. That got to be one because that's one of the first songs I ever heard in my life.

2:03:12Now, that's what sent it off. I'm up to three. Nah. Other one was you got to make your own one. I gave you Dre and Snoop is one. One of they shits is one. This is it. I'm cheating, but I got to be no choice. He ain't go specific with it. I said gin and juice or G thing. Those is take your.

2:03:40One, two, two, four. That's two. of all times. We got to be clocked. The timer. Yeah, because this is it. Yo, Jada, man, this shit. You got, I mean, what else? I mean, you got a whole bunch. X got one, too. I don't know which one it is. Look. That's the stop, drop, shut them up, shut them up, drop. What you call them is bigger than that. What? That'll make me lose my mind. Y 'all gonna make me lose my ass. That shit rips out the... Up in here. That shit rips out the screws. Y 'all gonna make me go all out. You know what's crazy with that song? The hook is so top 40. The verses is disrespect. The verses is saying the most crazy shit on...

2:04:32I'll suck my dick. I ain't saying that. When they want the gun thing. Like, yo, he's going crazy. Versus is great. You know, we had a thing. Let me shout out Cool and Dre. We had a thing. We would kill him on the verse and make him dance on the hook. We would always do that. You got to stop giving the formulas out. Don't tell these people that. Well, I'm up to three or four, man. You up to three? Yeah, man. Yeah. Now I'm up to four. Y 'all going to make me lose my mind. Oh. I'm leaving shit out. I think one of... See, I... Don't hold me... Don't quote me, boy, because I ain't said shit. N.W.A.

2:05:15got one, too. Pick it. Fuck the police. Give me every one you want. That's one. N.W.A. They got one. Biggest of all time? Great. N.W.A. one? You don't question my... It's N.W.A. Trey Compton's bigger than fuck the police? That's why I just give you N.W.A. They got one of them shits, they got bigger than... I gotta switch demographics. I sit alone in my four corner. You understand? That's it. I got millions or more, but I just had to... I wanted to be diverse with my picks. I got the whole production there taking that in the back. Listen, man, I was hustling. I was in the street hustling and my brother told Montana to pull up in the red truck the Wrangler truck he looked at me I swear to God this is like a movie he pulled over I'm on the block watching the shit I don't want to say what block but I'm on the block watching and he ran up to me and his face it looked like a movie this is my best friend rest in peace and he running like he had to tell me something crazy.

2:06:32So I'm like, yo, Tom, what's up? He said, yo, come here. Come here, please. Come here. And the man pressed play because he had the system. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. I sit alone in my four corner room staring at you. We started dancing around this truck. When they played, my mind's playing tricks on me, dancing around it like, yo, this shit is great. And every drug dealer felt like paranoid. You felt like, I take the feds everywhere I go. That's why I'm paranoid. Like, everybody living that life. You know. That was one of them ones. Nah. So let me get Jada's, what did you write down Jada's five?

2:07:16Look, it's other songs bigger than mine and his. We just saying. 50. He says some big. Go is one of the biggest songs I have. Go. Go. Which one? ghost. What? In the club? 50 is your birthday. Ain't nobody in the world that don't know that song. You can go niggas that can't talk know how to sing it. I'm just saying, I agree with you with that. You know what I'm saying? With the 50 Cent. Damn, that was a good one. That should have made some shit, right? Yeah, that shit did. Nah, nah, nah. It's your birthday? That's the cheat code. You don't got to be able to talk and you can sing that. That's the cheat code.

2:07:56But what did we do? What did I pick? What Jada pick on the top five? Jada just ran down. It was either, he had, let's go, King of Rock, I run DMC. Pick a Snooper Dre, G-Thing, or I think G-Thing would be the one. Mahmoud's playing tricks on me. DMX up in here. NWA, fuck the police. Or Compton. What did I pick? New York. Yo, you gotta stop. Now, yo, you see them violating. That's one of my favorite songs. That's one of my favorite songs. You kidding me? Yo, your man violating my shit right here. We both picked some main shit. Taylor be on that bullshit. He throw the hoodie over. He like, dude, yo.

2:08:46He over here picking. I stand alone in the forc on the room with us. For when I don't got one. Those is missiles. Those are. Hip-Hop-A-Rae, Biggie Hoop-Mataz, Snoop Dogg. I said still Dre I went still Dre and then I went was Tupac that was great those is great Hov Give It To Me is one of them shits too they know that shit everywhere anywhere you could go on with human beings and then we gonna both agree honorary should be in there is the in the club it's mad people 50 cent in the club is definitely in the club is like the biggest district You know, we start disrespecting, we go...

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2:13:30The minute you're supposed to see Giant, you're supposed to say, oh, Giant, why don't you call him back? But if I say to Kiss, yo, between me and you, or off the record, Giant don't call me back. The minute you see Giant, you got to close your mouth. But I bung up that conversation. This is from four o 'clock in the morning to two o 'clock in the afternoon. I'm the sharpest you can ever speak to. I'm the sharpest. Like I'm up in the morning. I'm doing pushups. I'm running. I'm trying to get my life together. Like I'm sharp. He calls me six o 'clock in the morning. So I remember this conversation to the teeth, to the teeth.

2:14:08And he called me and he was the first time I ever seen push her all these years. I kind of have emotions. Like, he was like, yo, how our boy did that? So in case you don't know what I'm talking about, Harrell picked, he said both on QuickTime with Slime, Drake or Pusha T. He said both. Pusha called me and was like, yo. It was the first time I ever heard Pusha, like, raise his voice. He was like, yo, you think 40 from Uvio would have said the same? And I'm just sitting there. So when I bring up this conversation with Pusha, I'm bringing this up in honor. I'm like, yo, that was honorable that he shared that with me.

2:14:42I wasn't trying to... So what I'm trying to say is when that conversation happened, later on in that conversation, there was things that I brought up and I said, this is off the record. This is off the record or this is between me and you. Because let's just talk about what we were talking about. Pusha, who is famous, called Nori, who is famous, about a producer, Pharrell, who is arguably more famous than both of us, right? About a conversation with one of the most famous people on the planet. Drake! And this all happened on Drink Chance. So I assumed that this part of the conversation wasn't off the record because we later on addressed that and said, like I said, I'm sharp from 3 to 2 p.m.

2:15:29I'm the sharpest in the world. I remember this shit verbatim. He never said that. So if I blew that up as a man, my bad. If I blew that up. But I didn't think I did. Like, at the end of the day, no matter what. You're media now. I got to tell you that. Joe, hold on. Off the record. Like I just told you about the Smoke Champ shit. You used that on me? No, you used that on me. You used the fuck. That was a personal shit. Oh, man. I knew it was something weird. No, no, no. No, that was hard. That was hard. He did his job. He did his job. That's exactly what he's supposed to do. I'm trying to get this guy to$100 million.

2:16:09Yeah, yeah. I've never seen a guy I'm trying to get to$100 million. and crucify me on every show. No, you're doing your job. That's how we're going to get the 100 in. You're doing your job. I'm seeing what I'm saying. I'm smoke, drink, drink. I'm trying to do all this before. So hold on. Let me finish. So let me finish. So with Pusher, like Pusher, Malice, you know, I knew him since they called him Terry, Terrence. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is my family. So, you know, they laughed it off. You know what I'm saying? So I sent him a text like, you know, you know I'm coming back. You know what I'm saying?

2:16:41Like that type of shit. But let me, let me, let me make this clear. That's my family. They got the best album right now. Uh, I still, I'm still working out to it. I was offended that he said, I cloud chased when he said, everyone, he said, you know, it's, it's album time. You know, everyone wants to clickbait. I just want to address that part. That part, I don't need clickbait. They come every month. My work is good. It speaks for itself. It speaks for itself. I don't have to clickbait. So that part, I want to address. But other than that, if I, in any way, shape, form, or fashion, blew up something that I wasn't supposed to blow up, as a man, I apologize.

2:17:20I'm real. But I don't think I did. Now, I can say to the two people that still believe I'm not cap, the guy who thinks I'm real, I've had two. I'm fucked up. I'm so cap a lot now. You should be capting good. I'm cap with broken legs. I'm like, they fucking me up. catching this shit. You are not catching I'm catching everything. And you represent the fucking Caps. Every time you do like this, they're like, yeah, Jada got our back. He know Joe Cappin. This nigga lying against this. But for the two people, the 1 % of America, I've had so many deep conversations with Nori that you can't even believe.

2:18:02He has never repeated it. I've never repeated it. I have to say with Nori. Thank you. What I can say is if he knew he couldn't say that, he wouldn't do that. You know, that's... And by the way... I've had too many conversations. Dope of conversations. I want to tell... I want to say what else. Like, this was... Can we say what else? No, no. Definitely not. Yo, yo, Nory, we end it. Now's the time. We try to fix it. Every time we try to fix something, we try to rip it back off. Yeah. God, please. Yo, listen. Listen, now's the time. Yeah. To really get this over with one shot. No, no, no. I mean, it's not easy.

2:18:44It's not easy. It's not easy. It's not easy. We've had conversations in 20 years. In 20 years. This is our deep conversation. Like, sometimes you don't realize the relationship you have with a person, how long you know with a person. Like, I was in grinding. I was on grinding. I was on the remix, and I'm in the video. Like you said, lean back. So it's like, if it's a misunderstanding, I get it. and I get why he didn't call me first because what I did was publicly. So he had to respond publicly. So that's why I'm responding publicly. You know, I... But it's all... It's all love. But at the end of the day, that's not who I...

2:19:18I'm not a person who chases clout. I'm a person who has integrity. I'm a person who has integrity. I have morals. And I'm very, very creative. I'm too creative to bite anybody else's dick. I've always been my own style. I've always stayed in my own lane because it's never been trafficked yet. But Nori, let me ask you. You know what I'm saying? Are you?

2:19:41Fessions. Before I even get to Mariah, what was you and the staff, shout out to B-Cock, shout out to everybody. What kind of zone, what did y 'all set out to do? If y 'all just say, yo, we about to cook up some shit and go diamond and take over the whole, every piece of the world, y 'all accomplish that to the T. I don't think that's what y 'all did Nah nah Well I mean you got So we had 8701 first Before Confessions right Shout out to that That was definitely Yeah so 8701 We wrote You got it bad Real So you got it bad The success of you got it bad Was just like Was the beginning of it Like it was like Okay listen After you got it bad success We went back in the studio For Confessions The mentality was that We had to finish off What we thought You got it bad did Right So Usher was talking about a song Like he felt like His relationship was going through this situation He wanted it to burn out Like just let it burn out And we have to go through the pain And he was telling me this And I couldn't really grasp What he was saying Because I went I had gone through that type of situation But I was trying to And I was trying to figure it out And he told me this And then he left And I sat there for a minute And I kept thinking about it I'm like let it burn Let it burn and I kept saying like oh okay I'm feeling nobody I start trying to figure out what the words were and then I got it and I call him back I said I got it I got it I got the hook so he came back to the studio and we did let it burn first we did let it burn first and then he started saying he was going through this thing where he couldn't really work in Atlanta let's go to LA and I'm like nah here we go this is the bullshit I thought we this was gonna be everybody go through a phase you think he gonna block his own blessings right I'm like here we go I'm thinking about me cause I'm I'm like I wanna be where I can grab all the records that I need any ideas it's all in my studio right for me as far as being creative I don't wanna go nowhere cause I know I'm gonna forget something I'm gonna leave somewhere I can't find something yeah right so he like let's go to LA and I'm like ah shit cool I'm going we go we go to Brandon's way and we get out there and my man that was with me um he was talking to me about girls and side girls and relationships and this that and third and I just kept saying that's you just that's all bad like everything you talking about is all bad and Usher came to the studio and we started talking about some things but then he left and all I can't remember was like yo let's come back tomorrow and I was like man nah I can't let LA beat me I get like a writer's block I feel like I got a writer's block basically and you know it's really really bothering me because I already felt like it was going to happen when I got to LA not to cut you off that happens to me in LA I need to I can't just go there and go straight to the studio I gotta I gotta cry I gotta be I gotta some shit gotta happen I can't I don't got the same fluidity in the studio in LA that I got anywhere else and I don't know what it I don't know what it is it takes a while for me to get I can't just go there and be kissed off the rip so I never really successfully wrote in LA never me myself never hit one out the park in LA like you know I wrote shit there but it wasn't Blackout was recorded in LA on X album.

2:23:24This is it right here, man. That's probably... No, he was recording out there. I'm talking about for me. One of X album is the best I was able to... So, yeah, so I'm going through this thing and I'm struggling. So I'm like, I told an engineer, give me a copy of the beat. We made the beat, man, because we made the beat. And I think I know the beat right. I just don't... I ain't got the words. I can't figure it out. And I'm thinking about saying stuff that I don't think Usher's going to want to say. Right? So I'm thinking like that. He ain't going to want to do this because this ain't what his life is.

2:24:00Right? He ain't going through this. So I'm like, but that's what I want to say. But I'm thinking like this ain't going to work. So I take the beat and I get in the car. And I'm getting in the car. I'm riding down Melrose. And I'm thinking like. I swear I knew. I'm thinking like, shit, I ain't got the words. I can't. So I start thinking about usual suspect, right? Kaiser Soge was in the jail. He ain't had the words for the story. He just started looking for the words on the board and tried to create the story. So I'm like, I'm going to try this. And that's what I started doing. I'm looking at signs on Melrose.

2:24:39It's all kind of shit going, right? So I get to the light. I think on third, and the Beverly Center's in front of me. And that's when I say every time I was in L.A., I was with my ex-girlfriend. Every time she called me, I told him, Gravy, I'm working. No, I was out doing my work. I was hand in hand in the Beverly Center like, man, not giving a damn who sees me. And I'm thinking like, oh, and I'm just grabbing everything I see. I would have never said the Beverly Center in that song if the Beverly Center wasn't in front of me. I'm trying to do the Kaiser Soze shit, right? So as I get through that verse, I'm like, I got it.

2:25:14And so everything I've been doing is all bad. I got a chick on the side with a crib in the ride. I've been telling you some Indian lies ain't nothing good it's all bad I just want to confess and that's where confessions came from when me saying I just want to confess all of this shit that I've been doing is bad and we ain't have confessions that if I want to say that I want to confess to you everything that I've been doing is bad so it's like my time I'm saying this gonna be the first R &B record where the nigga actually tell a girl fuck it yeah you ain't got even ass yeah I'm fucking her this what I'm doing I got a crib on the side with a chick on the side with a crib in the ride I've been telling you so many lies ain't nothing good it's all bad I ain't always going I just felt like that song feels so good to this day all bad so that was the beginning right that was the beginning I had to drive all the way to Malibu because everybody had left the studio and I couldn't record I had to remember I had to memorize all of this yeah I had to keep going so the next day it's like we gotta hurry and get to the studio your side.

2:26:13Put it down. Put it down. You didn't write it down. No. I'm driving and writing in my head. I forget too much. So we get back. We do all bad. And then Mark pitched like what happened after this situation? What happened with the chick on the side? Then it hit me. It's like oh damn. She got pregnant. This is like my real life. Right? The chick on the side get pregnant. I know this story. like I really know this story I ain't even gonna write this right so that's when we like okay I'm like shit this is gonna be part 2 and part 2 became These Are My Confessions and you if we wouldn't have got to that if we wouldn't have did so we did a part 2 of a song that never even came out wow so that was part 2 to part 1 that was the response and you didn't even do the first one well we did it but it didn't come out LA didn't put All Bad on the first He didn't put it on the album.

2:27:10He put it on the, you know what I mean, on the repackage. You know, you name it some big names, right? So you're saying L.A. Reid. You're saying Mark Pitts. Who decides what comes on the album? L.A. Reid. I mean, you know, at that time, Aarist, you know, that was his. He'd be like, I want this. I want that shot. That's his job. That's what he's doing. And that was his space. Like, L.A., you know, putting the albums together. That was his space. I just saw like an old interview with R. Kelly. and he said he would do like a hundred songs and listen to all of them and pick out the 12 on the album.

2:27:47Like, you know how hard that shit had to be? Yeah. To like, there's probably some gems left on the floor, right? But that's what I'm saying. Like, I never even understood why L.A. didn't even put both versions. He didn't want, he ain't put all bad. And I'm like, you know, what's crazy is that people gonna listen to this and they're hearing the second story. They don't even know where it came from. But I couldn't figure out how it worked. That was genius. Yeah, it was. It was like crazy genius. Yeah. So that was the beginning of Confessions. I think big pun, right? If you think about it though, JD, that's how movies, sometimes they make you watch the movie back.

2:28:23Yeah. That's a fact. Yeah.

2:28:29You know in Makarash, they got a little man. Have you ever seen the little men like this? Come on, man. We had one in Jimmy's. Come on, dawg. Yo, I'm telling you the truth. Come on, crack. Has anybody here? Come on, Rich. Has anybody? Somebody help me. He said it's a man this. What size is he? Our fans in Morocco, French Montana knows him. French Montana's from Morocco. I told him he knows him. It's a man this little. I need y 'all to see how small he's saying this. Let me explain something to you. Somebody, what size organs do he got? Yo, give me this shit. I promise you. This shit, the rewinded box.

2:29:06No. Hold up. No. Yo, come on. Definitely the Kiss Cafe. Let me get the Kiss Cafe. Let me get the Kiss Cafe. Listen, let me tell you something. You seen them human beings? This man will be ducking behind this shit in real human life. It's a grown man. It's not even now. Yo, listen. He's a grown man with a suit. Ladies and gentlemen. A suit. No, no. Nah. Yo, come on. Yo, the man dropped. Oh, I'm capping. Go to Maca. Yo, look him up. I promise you. He said he got a suit on. Yo, we had a Dominican. We had a Dominican named Nelson that passed away. Rest in peace. He used to come to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe.

2:29:50The man was this big. Come on, man. Yo, I'm telling you. Yo, listen. He's definitely not bigger than the Kiss Cafe. I've been in Carnivores. I've been in Man City. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's nobody was this big, dog. Yo, there's a little man in Morocco. He's still alive. And Makadesh. Okay? We want y 'all to send us pictures to the Joe and Jay, the Instagram, because y 'all be thinking I'm capping. He won't be hiding behind this shit. Nah, come on, man. This is at least three-fourths of his body. Yeah, come on, dawg. Please. There's no way. What's that, nigga? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not a myth.

2:30:34I am not a myth Alhamdulillah I am not a myth Yo, I gotta go Yo, come on This guy's killing me Let's see if French picks up Yo, I bet you they said it to us I'm sorry But the person called French ain't pick up Let me tell you something I'll tell you We had a Dominican one named Nelson He passed away Yo He used to be a Jimmy He jumped from the table To the chair To the this You never seen it? I'm not violating in no way. Can anybody give us a picture of Nelson? He's gonna Nelson will be found. You guys are gonna make sure I'm not capping. The guy who does the clips you're gonna find pictures of Nelson you're gonna find pictures of the man in the Makarash cause they say I be capping.

2:31:22There's a little man. I can't take it. Well I never seen a little woman like that right? I seen a little man like that I never seen a woman like that. How big is he? He's hiding behind this shit. Yo, what? Yo. Yo, listen. Listen. I need an amulet. I need, yo, dog. He's hiding. His face might just go like peek over this shit like, it's a little man with a suit. Yo. Yo, dog, he's killing me. Rewind at 10, CVS, Sally Beauty, go get it. A little man with a suit. Kiss Cafe, go get your stuff. Kiss Cafe. All right, you think I'm lying. Nah. All right, I'm just trying to tell you. I need these pictures, man.

2:32:08Let me tell you something. Other people say shit for clickbait, content, shit like that. I say facts all the time. And when we do the clip, you're going to see the little man. Two of them. I know a Dominican one, Nelson. Yo. He passed away. Rest in peace. Rest in peace to Nelson, man. But the other man from Morocco is alive. And French knows him. French Montana knows him. He got kids? I don't know. Yo, come on. I'm not going to go there with you. I'm sure he got a girl. They think he's cute and all that. The man's a little scrungy. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, what's the toy they selling out now for the girls?

2:32:48Everybody's getting them toys. La Boo Boo. La Boo Boo. La Boo Boo. Yeah. The woman can have her own La Boo Boo. The man. This guy. The man. Yo, let me tell you something. The picture surfaces of this. No, no. It's happening. I'm not lying to you. Nelson? You found Nelson. Who you found? From Morocco? Let me see. We got him? We got him, bro. No. I tell you, I don't cap, man. I'm not fucking capping, bro. I got to see. Yo, kiss. I'm going to let you look at him first. Just make sure that's him. Look at my man. Yo. Oh, shit. Oh, fucking shit. Look at my man. Yo, look. Look at him sitting on a watermelon.

2:33:32Look at this shit. Oh, I told you. This is my guy. I'm not lying to you. This is my guy. He's on a watermelon. He ain't bigger than a watermelon. Look at this shit. I told you. Kiss, I told you. No, no, he's puny. Put the Kiss Cafe. That shit half his body, bro. He's on a watermelon like that's a building. Yo, come on, kiss. You trying to violent. Do you like this guy? I know him from Makadesh. How big is he for real? He'll hop. Like, he'll hop from the table to the chair, hop down. You help him. Ladies and gentlemen, y 'all better never say my brother's cap. The no cap award. You seen this shit?

2:34:18The no cap award goes to crack. This a man. Yo, look at him. He's sitting on a watermelon. He's crazy, yo. I'm trying to tell you. And he's a grown man? He's a man. A grown man be wearing suits and shit. Yo, hey. He do got a little button up on. He got a little polo button up. With a pin. Look at the little sneakers, man. You ain't see. Yo, this thing's crazy. I've been around the world. I'm trying to tell you. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to hit nothing. He found the little guy. Yo, but look at the pineapple. I need Nelson. half his body. If you get Nelson... No, Nelson is Dominican. He died.

2:34:58Look up Nelson. Nelson is out there. Nelson used to hang with us in the Bronx. I'm telling you. Yo, dog. Yo, the pineapple. You met him in Morocco? Yeah. French knows him too? That's it. French knows him by name and everything. When I tell French, yo, you know the little guy, he'll say his name real quick. That's why I called him. I was like, you know... He's a grown man. No, he's a grown man. He ain't just small. He ain't, ladies and gentlemen, he ain't this size though. What size is he? The pillow? Look at this guy. The fucking pineapple is to his neck. That's crazy. How little is he? His body is half of the pineapple.

2:35:39Yo, I tried to tell you. That boy be hiding behind Kiss Cafe. He be like this. I told you. Yo, that's hard, man. He made it. It's real talk. It's real talk. We got to put him on the screen. Yo, that's crazy though. That's the illest. Yo, is that crazy or no? The robot with his suit. What kind of suit? What kind of suit do you have? What's in your camera? A Monty suit? Oh, look at the lady on him. No, no, look. He got the suit. Look, kiss. Oh! Yo, he got the suit. What? Yo, look at the lady on him. He got his suit. Nah, I'm dead ass. Look at this suit. Yo, look. He got the suit. Oh shit. He be rocking suits and bow tie, all this shit.

2:36:20I can't take it. I'm not lying. Yo, we got to have an EMS on the side, man. You got Nelson? You found Nelson? Yo, come on, man. Let me see Nelson. I give up already. Yo, listen, boost. Who's bigger, Nelson than him? Get yourself a boost. Yo, give yourself a boost. You see you looking at Nelson? Did you look at my other man that was sitting on the watermelon? He's alive. My Kadesh is alive. Nelson has passed away, right? You see Nelson? How big is Nelson? Same type shit, right? Wow. Let me see it. Oh, you can't really see it. Look. This is Nelson. Oh shit. Yo, dude. And Nelson's a little taller than my Kadesh guy.

2:37:05Yeah, he's a little taller. He used to rock the TS chain in Bro... Jimmy's Bronx Cafe, the big... This guy? Nelson. I swear to God. Two foot, two inches. Two foot, two inches? Two inches, that's all. Who, my Kadesh or Nelson? Nelson. My cadets is two. Two foot, two inches. That's my guy. He be in the suits. I'm telling you. Nelson was on Leatherman? What's this? He was on some shit. He's the littlest guy. 10 years ago. He passed away though. Nelson had girlfriends and everything. I used to see him in the Dominican clubs. Yo. Yeah, I'm telling you. Nelson used to be in the Dominican clubs. Yeah.

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