Busta Rhymes talks honoring J. Dilla’s legacy on ‘Dillagence 2’ + tells CLASSIC ‘90s stories of Biggie, Jay-Z, Q-Tip & more

27:31Yo, you know what's crazy, man? It's hip-hop fans will argue about anything. I'm talking best rapper live, best era, best album, but nobody gets started on best verse. Don't even get me started on best verse. That's a fact. And now Sprite got y 'all debating something new. It's called the Sprite Living Track List, 50 records that really shaped the culture. That's crazy. We talking legends, we talking icons, and yeah, new artists carrying the torch right now, present day. But it ain't just songs, though. It's the stories behind them. The lyrics, the moments, what those records meant when they hit.

28:09Yo, go check out the full Sprite Living Track list and get into the stories behind your favorite bars. I like that. At livingtracklist.genius.com. This is the Sprite Living Track list. Obey your thirst. Yo, I was scrolling through the Sprite living track list the other day And immediately started arguing with myself Arguing with yourself? I'm serious, it was wild because records like California Love, Still Not a Player Back then, those aren't just songs Nah, those are moments, memories, snapshots of where hip-hop was and where it's going Exactly, and that's what Sprite gets They spent over 40 years celebrating artists who really defined the culture.

28:54And now they flipping it, letting the fans be part of the conversation. Which is where it gets interesting, because the real debate is why. Like, why did that song matter? Why did that line hit? Why did it change hip-hop forever? I can't promise you we got the answers. But you're definitely going to have a good time figuring it out. Go check out Full Sprite Living Tracklist. And break down the stories behind your favorite bars at livingtracklist.genius.com. This is the Sprite Living Tracklist. Obey your thirst. Chat GPT can do more than answer questions. It can help you get real work done. Chat GPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps.

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31:30Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful. Y 'all, here's a little story, Trent. Fire to tell. Old man bathroom break. I got to take it to Jay Diller. Right? About to switch my question and take it to your question. How did you get the beats? How did this start? Was he supposed to do something before he passed? Because I know y 'all used to hold, those is your guys. Yeah. He always would give me like these beat CDs of 25 beats. And like they would be short. You know what I'm saying? They'd be super short, like 20 seconds, 30 seconds. Every now and then you might get a beat that would be a song at a time.

32:22Yeah. But it would always be 25. It never really exceeded 25 beats. So he initially created these volumes. It was like volume one through five. You got 125 beats right there. But the crazy shit is he would start having me come to his crib when he moved to LA because Dilla's from Detroit. But when Dilla started to get ill with the sickness that he was dealing with, it was lupus. and I gotta salute Common so much for this because Common and Dilla was super cool and super close too and Common he actually helped move Dilla to LA with his moms, Ma Dukes so he could be closer to the specialist for his treatments I was living in LA at the time because Dilla passed in 06, this is his 20 year anniversary of his transition and I was working on...

33:2520 fucking years, J Dilla. 20 years, Dilla. Wow. 20 years. Fuck, man. It's crazy. I remember hearing that shit. Like, yo, J Dilla just... That's... And it's an ill divine alignment with just the timing of everything because I started with Dilla in 96. He gave me my first two beats on my first solo album. That's 30 this year. Wow. He did the title track on the Genesis album, which turns 25. this year. Wow. He did a couple beats on Big Bang album and that turned 20 on the day the Knicks won the chip. Wow. June 13th. Hmm. We dropped that in 2006, the year that Dilla passed. So that's the last project he contributed to while he was alive.

34:12And crazy shit is they airing the Grammys in 2027 on his born day. Wow. Shit. So, this Dilla, Diligence 2 album happening is a combination of moments of when he put beats in my hand personally and then shit that I was gifted with from people that was in the same circle because it just kind of became the thing that I was like a custodian of Dillus beats and his music. Anybody got something left, it only makes sense. Yeah, they just kind of like, yo, put with the rest of the shit because you got the diesel archive of Dilla's production from him personally. And then Ma Dukes was very instrumental in that.

35:01But back to Common, Common moved in and lived with Dilla with Ma Dukes in LA while he was getting his treatments. And it's so beautiful to watch, even though it was torturing to watch. But as Dilla was getting sick, his mom's kind of stepped in and became his engineer. So like he had two beat machines on the table in the closet. All his albums that he would sample from was, was set up in alphabetical order from the ceiling to the floor. So whenever he told his moms to go pull a record, she knows exactly where to go and pull it and give it to him. And then whatever beat machine he wanted to work on, she would be the one behind that shit, plugging that shit in like his engineer.

35:46And then he would just get busy. And, um, this is the Dilla that used to amaze me because Dilla ain't do too much talking. We would joke and laugh and shit, but he was, he was on that machine until he was ready to press play for you. Being able to sit there and watch this man go through having me on Slum Village, Slum Village's fantastic Voyage volume two album, which I think that album is almost 30 years old at this point he always included me in shit he was doing so it wasn't just him giving me shit he always reached out to me to ask me to spit on this or just do an intro on this project or shit like that so that's how the accumulation of the Dilla beats happen you know what I'm saying that's that's how the stash grew word it's ill because in addition to having a lot of this Dilla music T3 is the remaining the last member of Slum Village that's alive so Batten who was in Slum Village passed away I mean Elzai was a part of Slum Village but I'm talking about the original who's the only ones left it's only T3 Dilla's gone Batten is gone and then it was T3.

37:15T3 is here and he's actually on the album. So, you know, and big up to Mick, DJ Mick, formerly DJ Mick Boogie, he kind of was the one that inspired me to do the first Diligence project 19 years ago in 07 when we just put it out to just tribute Dilla's life. And Dilla Mom's called me in November. I was finishing another album. And Dylan Marms called me in November and was like, yo, us, you know, we always do Dilla Day and Dilla Month in February because he's born February 7th. He passed February 10th. And I never was able to be a part of those because of schedule conflict. You know, a lot of the times that January be slow, that February should pick up crazy.

38:02Grammys, the fucking All-Star Super Bowl. He's doing nothing in January. He can't sit down in February. So, it's always been a scheduling conflict so I haven't been to one of them since he transitioned so moms was like I need you to think of something that we could do special for Dilla Day and Dilla Month and I always do records with them like Dilla's on every album that I've ever made solo except two so I figured to just do a record or two, three songs you know, that ain't nothing outside of what I normally do the rap dealer and carry on his legacy. So I said, I'm going to just do this album.

38:45But I didn't realize outside of the 20-year anniversary that all of these other things that was in the divine alignment was happening. It was like as the month of, as the me and Mom Dukes is talking and the music was coming together, it just was like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. And it was just weird. But obviously, ain't nothing coincidental about destiny. You know what I'm saying? So I just looked at this whole shit as this is a real divine timing moment and we gonna fucking ride those waves so crazy to rep Dilla and rep this incredible music. And he's one of my favorite producers so it's like when I rhyme on his shit he brings something else out of me.

39:31Different from when I rhyme on a lot of other producers shit. I know the feeling. Whenever I rhyme with like a Diggin' in the Crates member. Yeah. I rhyme a whole different way. It's real shit. I just don't under, I just go back at the Fat Joe, the gangster. It's just like Diamond to be like, yo, here go the beat. And I just rhyme D-I-T-C Fat Joe. Real shit. I just don't know all the way. And if you hear me on that, you might be like, damn, this nigga used to rap once upon a time. Like the shit is like, cause your motherfuckers just spitting balls and all. so you gotta be on your shit, but I feel the same way.

40:10Certain producers, you know, when I moved down to Miami and started working with Kool and Dre, I felt like, you know, I felt like I could do different things. Big up to Kool and Dre too, our brothers. Loved them, bro. The brothers and bros, for real, man. That's how I feel with Q-Tip too, though. You know what I'm saying? Every time I got on that motherfucker production, that shit just turned me into like five animals at once and shit. You know what I'm saying? I just black when I hear his shit. It just, he just, there's something about that pocket that his shit sits in when he do his beats and the way, the way them kicks slapping them, snare slapping them, fucking bass lines.

40:48They just, him and Dillard would do shit that you gotta go to their store to get that specific shit. You wanna know what's crazy? Other brands don't taste like, nah. The last verse that Buster Rounds call me, you know, selective with his compliments and all that. You gotta really impress Poster Rons, my nigga. He's not a regular. That nigga's like the sensei or something. What's the shit you said? Summa Tumma Cali? Nigga, he's a Summa Tumma Cali. You not getting away. Look at your mans in them. Yo, let me tell you something. But anyway, yo, son, you put your foot in that ass. It was the fucking Q-tip joint that he did for LL with me, him, and Rick Ross.

41:40Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the man? He said, LL sent me there to listen to the album, and Q-tip went like this. I need you to rhyme. I said, rhyme where? He was like, this right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, you put me on the spot of all spots. He was like, come on. Give me that Joe Crack shit. I had to spit that verse right there in front of Q-tip. That shit was kind of... That's tip, though. It was like nervous. I was like, yo, if we follow the Bible with hip-hop, correct? We over here living this culture. This is fucking Q-tip. And I'm like, yo, maybe he think I don't write my rhymes to my nigga.

42:28I don't know what the fuck. He trying me? So I'm up in there like... He liked to make sure that you record through his shit because he needed to sound. He needed to sound the way he wanted to sound. We worked on the last Tribe album before Fife passed. God bless the Fife. We love you. We miss you, bro. Oh, we love you, Fife. Fife diggity. We could not... He wouldn't send us no beat. When I tell you Jack White had to come to Q-Tip Crib, Andre 3000 is in Q-Tip Crib. Me, Talib, Kuala L. Only person that ain't come to Q-Tip Crib during that album was Elton John on the solid wall of sound, John. I think I got Elton John to do something.

43:17Hey! Hey! I think I missed that. Hey!

43:26Oh, I'm trying to tell you. You don't care anybody in the universe of planet history of shit. He, I seen him clear samples. You just cannot. If the artists that you heard, this artist don't clear. He was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, any sample, any artist that you ever heard, yo, they don't clear. Oh, he clearing. I asked him a couple of times how do you sample that? How do you get that? Yo that Michael Jackson Q-Tip I don't know if it's Nice Guy Records I don't know what the fuck it is that motherfucker he get it clear nobody's telling Q-Tip no, I'm not telling him no yeah, Tip different Tip introduced us all to Dilla that's how I meant Dilla through Q-Tip.

44:21That's how Daylight heard about Dilla through Q-Tip. Like, Q-Tip is a very interesting conduit to all of this shit on the East Coast, believe it or not, when it comes to this hip-hop shit. Nah, a lot of motherfuckers, Q-Tip introduced or elevated or contributed to their evolution for the better once you got next to him and started to work and just be around the vibe. but just Q-Tip really is like the pure one of the fathers of the shit we became you know what I'm saying yeah I got a you know we had Moni Love came here one time I never looked at it like that and she was like you know we always felt like we were your big brothers or your uncles I'm like what are you talking about she was like you know Chris Lighty put you on she was like that was his first labor we were like yeah that's our little brother I was like she said we didn't even know you and we was rooting for you like yeah that's crazy like that's nuts yeah it's crazy so you never see the dynamic of who leads to who who leads who's the family tree right who's the thing but you you are right q-tip I don't know if we got a hundred three thousand without a q-tip I just don't know I don't want to be putting shit in people's mouth but I'm just telling you that uh Q-tip inspired a lot of what happened?

45:51I was going to say, I don't know if we got Andre 3000 and his mother don't mean his father.

46:01Special guy, you know. Your buster special. There's a reason why he's time five. Jada is crazy. Oh no. Jada crazy. They tried to play with him the other day. I was pissy drunk at my party. He says, damn man, you listen to everything, Joe. Oh, yes, I do. I told him today, nice and sober. I said, you see a nigga and tell you you hit him back with the...

46:29That motherfucker knew I had to give you a quack at that backhanded right quick. That shit returned to 70. Boom, boom. Oh, shit, okay. We cool. I said, I thought we was drunk. That answer was so sharp. Yeah, you did because I definitely thought you was out of it. For you to hear the whole thing, I think it was lying. He wasn't even drunk. Now he was captain. Everybody thought he was drunk. He was drinking water. Unfortunately for everybody, I actually have a God given gift. Unfortunately for everybody, I got a gift where they all talking.

47:13and it may look like I don't hear nothing. Yeah, all of this. And later I go home and I hear the trainer. I hear the girl in the back. I hear everything everybody says. And I be like, motherfucker try to play. Yo, this is, it's like I play rewind on motherfuckers. Like I just go like this. It happens to me my whole life. I hear everything. God forbid if I was getting high. Who was that? Now some nigga tried you, you know what I'm saying? And you hit him back with... Yeah. Last guy tried you like that was Harry Spence. Right? And you hit that nigga back with Turner Sunday. Comedian of all comedians.

47:55And he's funny. We need to get Harry Spence back on the show. He said some slick shit to Jada. Jada, he hit him back in half a second. You know the paddle shit with the ping pong with the ball and shit. Go like that. That nigga said ping pong. I said, oh, who's doing that? he's one of them guys you don't want to talk like that to now bus you know bus reacts different bus smack the shit at you nah I don't do that no more you don't do that no more you're not doing that no more you don't do that oh my god return to send the bus to rhymes

48:34I've witnessed too many times in the middle of Siberia. No, I'm talking about Yugoslavia, nigga, Poland, somewhere. Who the fuck you talking to? Bust shit is legal because you can't just touch people just touching them, throwing shit on. You got it right to smack the shit out of somebody after they just touch you or anything. You know what I mean? We human beings. Who said you can just touch you? Let me tell you something. I learned how to slap five through Bust and Rhyme. Oh, nah. His dance is legend. You know who told me about dance? How many times he gave me black and blues? Biggie told me before I met him, get your hand ready.

49:15Me and Lucha and P is like, what are you talking about? He's going to come in. He's going to show you mad love. He's going to smack the shit out of you. What? He's laughing like, whatever, Big. He came in. No, he blew your shit over. Your shit got the, you know when you niggas slap you five and you got a black and blue? That happened to me a hundred times. I had to learn the hallway after maybe 150 black and blue. I started like, yo, boss, what's up? You general? Headshake. What? Yo, yo, boss, I think for a period of time, I actually was preparing you for that. Yo, boss, headshake, yo, like this.

49:56It broke my hand a million times. God, I was like, yo, my God. Yo, boss, you a character, man. Sometimes people love you for your music your energy, everything you bring to the table all are legendary, you're the greatest performer in hip hop history whoever, I was thinking about this in the middle of this whoever performed before you before you ever everybody, because he's the headline he's the headline of all headlines that's not the question you're not listening to the question I'm not saying who fucked up who fucked the place up before you went on And you tapped Sniff and you said, we got to go X.

50:39Oh, no. We got to go. What artist fuck taught it, paint off that motherfucker? And you was like, oh, we got to whip this shit down to the highest of levels. That's a good question. And no. Nobody. That's a really good question. I do, I have like faint memories of feeling like we needed to, I do remember there's been some moments I just can't remember who the groups was off the top of my head but I remember there's been conversations where and I love to go out and watch you do I want to see the energy that the crowd is giving I want to see what we up against and I want to and I just need to know how we need to deal with the situation after when it's our time to get on or before whoever we getting on there's been times me and Spliff actually sat in the dressing room after we would go back from watching somebody set and we would make adjustments.

51:47Scratch it all. Come open the laptop, bro. We might not have included these joints in this set list today. We put them shits in there today. Yeah. That motherfucker tore the paint off the wall. We got to deal with this different. We assume you ripping down everything. so we're not like we just he the greatest but there has had to be somebody that went before you and you was like that's a fact I just can't remember off the top of my head um Das FX Das FX during the leaders day bum stickity bum stickity bum bum bum bum bum it was Das FX story ever man can I hear it It's a little bit sad. We had one of them festivals.

52:39Bay Area, I think, somewhere. It's one of them crazy shits where they had the budget is$100 billion. They got everybody, Ice Cube, Cosmetics, Locks. That shit in Vegas. That shit in Vegas was disgusting. One of them kind of shits. Yeah. So we ripped. And I was, you know, fans of hip hop. I want to dry off, roll up, and go enjoy my iconic friends. Yeah. So I'm in my trailer, drying off, switching my T-shirts, getting a new T-shirt, getting my essentials ready to go watch Ice Cube is next. I get a knock on my door. It's Doss FX managing. She just must know I'm a nice guy. Knocked on the door. I don't know.

53:24I said, boom, Jayla. How you doing? I'm such and such. I manage Dots and Facts. Nice to meet you, ma 'am. It's that. Can I ask you something? Can I talk to you for a minute? Nah, I'll step out. Me. All right. Can you make it a little quick? You know what I'm saying? I want to catch Ice Cube. No disrespect. Yeah. You know, they got the song with Ice Cube. Don't check. Riggity Wreck Yourself. Yeah, that's one of my favorite songs. with him. You know he never performed. They never performed it with him. You don't let him perform it. Now I'm like, how could I be the mentor of, like, where did you see how you see me fixing?

54:12Now she's explaining it. All you hear is he did it again. He lost it. He was up there ripping the paint and she did it with the fourth floor. He make me mixing. I left it. Lady, I gotta go. But the whole city, she wanted them because they was there. He never called them. I said, I feel sad, but I can't put you on me to do. I was like, she put me in an awkward situation. I perform a couple of times with Chris Brown, but I do get a little jealous because I go to all his concerts, and when he played at another round, I'd be like, what, you did New York at Versus? I wasn't picking the side I'm not gonna lie I wasn't picking the locks I wasn't picking dip set I was minding my business in the crowd when then New York came on I almost jumped on that fucking stage just to I got a hundred guys I'm about to take over you don't know how bad when he talking about the emceeing you nigga oh my god if it wasn't that environment I would have fucking went like the Lucha Libre they niggas when they jump on them.

55:25You know how they jump in the ring? Niggas, like a mascot. Yo! I was like a wrestler. When he threw that shit, boom, boom. I said, oh, the crowd started going. I said, maybe I need to run on there, but I couldn't do it. You know, I was neutral. That energy in that fucking building that night, bro. That was a Jesus Christ moment that you took it to. You hear me? Kiss? That was a Jesus Christ moment, bro. And I don't know, sometimes it confuses me why you must got, like, a different type of money now. You really must have a different type of bag. Like, sometimes me and Switzer will be on the phone.

56:13You talk about Kiss, like, how many of these amazing moments that he's gonna have and he refuses to make an album and capitalize on it. That's a different type of money. You know, it's my birthday business partner.

56:32Nothing fell off the truck. I'm looking for something. Something for the nose. The truck is coming. You don't want nothing for the nose. Little Fenty? Nothing for the nose. Little Fenty? You got a little Fenty for me? Something? A little something. Maybe you got a trim for something for the trim. Yo, man. This guy here. Yo, boy. He got sitting on so much money. I've given him plays where I'm like, yo, my crills, I'm chilling crack. Yo, there's somebody. You don't want that? You don't want me to go in there and negotiate that. We go, you know, when the time comes, I'm like, Jesus Christ, this guy, he got some patience.

57:28Yeah, J-Clock is different. J-The Kiss Clock is a different clock. And he hear it all the time, you know? But that's an incredible thing to be able to function in that capacity at this point of our life, man. Niggas is doing what they want when they want. we fucking still on the 10th decibel on the volume knob, louder than a motherfucker, moving and shaking, shaking these rooms up and enjoying it on our terms now. And that's the joy of this whole shit for us now. You feel me? Let's fucking keep showing their ass the buses don't stop, niggas, so we don't stop. That's how I feel.

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58:43Yo, I was scrolling through the Sprite living track list the other day and immediately started arguing with myself. Arguing with yourself? I'm serious. It was wild because records like California Love, Still Not a Player, back then those aren't just songs. Nah, those are moments, memories, snapshots of where hip hop was and where it's going. Exactly, and that's what Sprite gets. They spent over 40 years celebrating artists who really defined the culture. And now they flipping it, letting the fans be part of the conversation. Which is where it gets interesting, because the real debate is why. Like, why did that song matter?

59:23Why did that line hit? Why did it change hip-hop forever? I can't promise you we got the answers. But you're definitely going to have a good time figuring it out. Go check out Full Sprite Living Tracklist. And break down the stories behind your favorite bars. at livingtracklist.genius.com. This is the Sprite Living Tracklist. Obey your thirst. Chat GPT can do more than answer questions. It can help you get real work done. Chat GPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps. You bring the goal along with the information it needs, like briefs, notes, files, feedback, calendars, data sets, or project plans.

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1:01:56You going on a tour with this album or you just... You already on tour. Yeah, yeah. You already... Yeah, we definitely... You lifetime guarantee on tour. I got to designate a specific type of experience for this tour. And we definitely gone. All of that is in the works to start later on this year and go until as long as we can take this shit. I saw you going on tour. Where? You said you on tour with Nas, this, this, that. One show, man. You got to start reading it. When you scroll down, read it. Don't just scroll past. Read this shit. It's a show with the roots and eyes. One show. And it happened already.

1:02:37I was hoping you went on to it. I said, damn, I might have like three weeks up. They're just still using my name and likeness because I ain't able to make that shit. You're not even going to make the show? You're going to be in Barbados at another show. I'm like, baby, Buster. Maybe. Maybe. Blessings. You know what? Sometimes I get jealous of the Jadakiss shows. Because he look like a lot of fun. He show up in the Brooklyn block and start ripping that shit. I don't even know what they don't allow me to do shit like that, kiss. Sure they do. Just drive your car there, pull up, park, and get out in the same way I did.

1:03:22I wasn't even supposed to be there you know that was my man's block I was going to get a chair and sitting I was actually going to see D-Dot I went there to look at D-Dot and Special Ed they saw me on the other side of the stoop and threw me the mic like a volleyball yo

1:03:44where was you at when you heard that I got it made for the first time I can tell you where I was at Special Ed I got it made You was already out, right? Nah. Ed came out before leaders. What? And leaders came out before you? Yeah. Holy shit, I'm a baby!

1:04:07I swear to God, all of them shits was detrimental for me. I told you, they leaders performed in Y.O. at Commerce High School. And X opened up for them when X was just a Y.O. So it was a great But we didn't get to see him perform that much. So X opened up. I remember that show. Oh, that's crazy. Just another case of the PTA. Just another case of the PTA. He couldn't believe they was going to be there. We like, there wasn't no AI or the gram or none of that. But we thought it was like false word. The flyer was fake. Man, is it a new school coming to Ohio? That shit was crazy. He ripped the paint off.

1:04:50PTA paint off. I remember that I was in school, young Jada. I wasn't even Jada. I was Jason. That energy, a different type of, you know, that time, like I said, like I told you, I was trying to get on, giving niggas my demo. I think I gave my demo. I gave Flojo to Russell Simmons. And how can I be down? You let the streets hit? No, no. Yeah, he probably. He definitely ain't. Listen. Yo, I kidnapped Redman one day Not literally One day Redman came to perform uptown And I jumped in his truck Yo, he didn't even know who I was I was like, yo, check this out, B I got my album, you gonna listen to this shit You know what's ill with that?

1:05:38Listen to that shit That's what you had to Today, all they gotta do is hit sin And send it to Egypt You had to jump in Redman's truck You know what that is? It's a different kind of dedication. You had to stand outside in front of Hot 97 and all that. You had to beg. I got a better one for you. When I came out on Relativity with Flojo, I told, I mean, it might have been the cheapest budget you ever seen in the history of mankind. I said, y 'all, I want you to make these giant posters. Giant posters. The original Flojo posters, the fat gangsta, with some big black and white shit like this. So they made the posters and I went everywhere with the tax crew with glue, nigga.

1:06:28Every day we looked like 9-11. Every night we hitting Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, throwing up our own posters with glue. This shit wasn't even like tape or nothing. It was glue all night. Then to go home in the morning to sleep to make sure I'm at every train station at 2.30 when everybody got out of school giving niggas a thing going, yo, I'm Fat Joe the Gangster. I was giving niggas hand-in-hand combat, 125th, Fordham Road. Yo, I'm Fat Joe. You heard the song Flow Joe? On Pix96 or what? Yo, this is me. Yo, so, nigga, like this shit was real back in the day. This shit was like, if you wasn't if you wasn't outside working, working, working, working, working, working, working, working, working, it just wasn't happening.

1:07:24I don't know too many somebody who just put one out the park like that with no work that we didn't see. Rob Bass might be one of those. Nah, Rob Bass, he's from Lincoln Projects on 132nd but his first shit just rung off crazy. He used to be at the Mike and Dave block parties on Park Avenue. Yeah, I knew of Raw Bass. It Takes Two is his first single. He just came out of nowhere to you. That's out of nowhere. He smacked the fucking time. No, that's a super smash. For life. He and the bull that they didn't whack. You know what happened to me, boss? They think I'm a liar. They think I'm a liar. They discredited me.

1:08:08I happened to work in the bodega across the street from Rob Bass's projects. So I seen them get in the first limo. I seen them with the Nike, that the dance. So I seen all that shit as the fat Puerto Rican kid from the store across the street who make the sandwiches. Him and Mixed Blood Green living in... Mixed Blood Green would come every day dusted and he'd buy 40 ounce. Like, y 'all, I'm gonna fuck Mike Tyson up. I'm going to fuck nigga with the Jerry Curl juice. He's like, yeah, all right, buddy. Come on, all right. Sure enough, he fought Mike Tyson, Mitch Blood Green. Went the other way. Oh, no.

1:08:50At least he's the first, I think, to survive. Might not know. Mike Tyson was fucking niggas up in 10 seconds. He survived. They had a real fight at the time of the day? Yeah. Before. He was on all kind of drugs. They fought before that? And he went to distance? Yo, what's that shit that's on the ship? That anchor? What's that shit? Yo, what's that shit on the ship? An anchor? Nigga Mike Tyson was hitting that nigga with that anchor. He was on so much drugs, he wouldn't go down. Mike Tyson said, yo, that nigga just kept popping back up, popping back. You couldn't stop him. Like, he was on big-time drugs, is what I'm saying.

1:09:30For all the real ones out there, we keeping it 1 ,800. So, you know, just saying the obvious shit, like, with B.I.G. You know, I know they say it all the time, but you went to school, the same school as B.I.G. and J.Z. Irv Gotti. Nah, Irv Gotti ain't going to that school. Yeah, it was just me big and ho. And a testament to what we're all talking about with the work that had to get put in. Because there wasn't no social media and there wasn't none of this other shit. you had to actually make sure that you was delivering on a pristine pristine enough level for motherfuckers to feel like they needed to be the first nigger to put other niggas on about you so that word of mouth shit that was the way to get the fucking buzz popping so me and Ho was rhyming in school big I never saw big rhyme in school Bigger Hustle, Lil Wee, there and there in school.

1:10:38But I never seen him rhyme in school. When I knew Big was rhyming was when we did Bunch of Niggas on Heavy D album. And Big was on that. And then Big jumped on Party and Bullshit. And I still didn't realize it was Big from school. one day I'm going to get a fucking check from, what's that? Burt Padell. Fucking Padell. Burt Padell. Going to get a check from Burt Padell. For some future, I did. Burt Padell. Burt fucking Padell, right? Yeah. And Big was getting a check from over there, I think. I was going back to Brooklyn and Big got in a whip with us and we dropped him off at his crib. And I thought this motherfucker was insane for this because Big had the double cassette.

1:11:33You remember them JVC double cassette big boxes? And at that time, it was the bootlegging shit happening. Crazy, you know what I'm saying? Everybody would be outside. You see a nigga bootlegging your shit. It was getting, it was gonna get dealt with. So Big, he was dubbing his album and giving them shits away. And he had a line from his block from Fulton to his crib, like a drug spot. And he giving his shit away, giving his shit away. And I'm sitting there watching him do this in amazement. And I almost just was trying to understand, what the fuck was you up to? What was he up to before I even asked him?

1:12:20They go big. I'm like, what you doing? What you giving away your album for? For free, nigga? You ain't trying to make no money? And nigga say, yo, bus, I want the nigga that's not playing my shit to look like he fucking crazy for not playing my shit. That was the most genius shit a motherfucker ever said to me, marketing and promoting his own shit. He like the shit gonna get bootlegged anyway. So let me control the bootlegging. And I don't even want no money because as long as every single person is playing my shit, the nigga that ain't playing it It's going to look crazy, bus. I said, this is it.

1:13:03I never could bring myself to bootlegging my own shit. Nah, I used to beat them up. I used to beat them all up. I know I went to 125th. I tell a story all the time, but everybody don't got the story. I went over there. Tupac was fucking up all the bootlegs. Pounding the miggas out. A nigga tried to fight him with a sword. He took it from me. Poor Daylight. I crack the code. Tupac's your code. I'm biggest song. Why? I had a meeting with Jimmy Iovine. I had all of that. He putting the bag up behind it. It's one of them serious meetings. Fly back. I shit at Boobleg. Me. I'm finding this nigga. Shout out to DJ Scoob Duke.

1:13:45Turned out to be my man. I'll find him. I'm ready to risk it all. Him. Jimmy Iovine and them gave it to me. Me. I figured. That's it. you beating niggas up that label who gave it to me that was the end of bootleg they gave it to me where you get this from sorry to tell you I ain't gonna do that that shit is crazy yeah I can like big punk pulled up in the white van big punk got who killed in the white van for the bootleg I wanted to be the postal worker and go back there and clear the whole fucking building You know, there was so much shit that went down behind bootlegging. Motherfuckers really getting hurt out there for that shit.

1:14:30You out there putting hands and feet on these niggas at the table. Meanwhile, somebody from the label gave it to them. Just like Recipe's K. Slay. One day, K. Slay, I told Slay, I see your Slay. How you had them? Easy. Every time you edited the album, every time you mixed and mastered it, You know the white guy that mastered your shit? Yeah. $1 ,500. Gave me the album the second you walked out the door. Yo, you know when you go sit down and mastering where this shit look expensive and you got like a white dude that he knows and he got the shit. Nigga, K-State was like, bro. And I'd be lucky if I got there and Clue wasn't walking out before.

1:15:17The editing niggas was giving them the fucking albums ahead of time. that's how you heard all the mixtapes and they had all that shit ahead of time there's no way to save that did anybody ever kill one of them nah them niggas got away with it big pun the only nigga I seen put an apple on the engineer's head battery studio and pulled out the hammer told them don't move and the kid was stood there with the apple on his head he started sweating mad the nigga look like menopause. The nigga start sweating like a hot flash. Poor little kid, man. And I was terrified because, you know, Ponda had a thing for them guns.

1:16:03And I'm like, yo, Pond, yo, Pond, Tony Sunshine is fixing the apple on the nigga's head. So I'm like, yo, Pond, yo, Pond. He go, bah! The kid dives under the shit. I'm like, oh my God. It was like one of them movie guns, the blank shit. or the blanks not Chris Lighty not a motherfucking human in the world could ever get Battery Studios to take Fat Joe's money again dead they never entertain yo but you know it's been three years don't come here don't come them niggas Tony Sunshine and Big Pon will fuck me up if I go to hotels they be like Big Pun lit up the whole you know when you don't smoke the shit the whole burn down the whole floor you know on purpose the shit came out these guys were like these guys I remember I went we was in the Mandrian Oriental I'm talking about spots where I was spending cash money like Mandrian Oriental when I ain't live in Miami.

1:17:17I booked that shit out for a month straight, this, this, that. One day I came, they had my bags at the front. I said, you know what happened? They used to park my Rolls Royce in the front, Mr. Joe, this, because I'm generous. I like to give tips every day. I'm like, Mr. Joe, you can't come here no more. What happened? Your friend, Tony Sunshine, the man gave him a cold hamburger and smacked flames out the man all the way in the biggest office. They said, you can't be here no more. Nigga, about 10 years later, I went to the Manjian Oriental thinking it was over. They was like, says here, you can't stay here.

1:17:54He was just sitting there. They took it off. They took your band off. No, they took it off. I'm talking about 20-some years ago, but these guys was doing shit, fucking up places that I had to juice in. Like, I was like, oh, no, you should... Niggas have my bags packed for me. Like, no, sir, you can't come back in here. Like, you're going to jail. if you walk in this building. How often do y 'all practice? Because y 'all got one of the illest setups. Scratch a talk and tell you some shit. And the crowd can't. He can tell you a bus. We about to go into the mood, right? Y 'all stage dynamics. It keeps getting better with age and time.

1:18:36Thank you, James. How? He's doing that shit. Yeah, but if you watch the show from the crowd, That nigga boss going to the house. As a real crowd hip hop observer, they all got a, they all playing a part in it. And it's the most craziest shit I ever seen. From the listening, from this whole shit. And you got, I gotta be, I gotta huddle up a lot of times a week or a month. I gotta be adding and doing shit. That ain't just because you knew each other for all of them. I got some shit. Do you do that still, boss? You got to. Get together, practice this or that. Yeah, we do that when it's to study and learn the words to the new songs.

1:19:29Other than that, nah. Because we've been doing certain shit for years. It became muscle memory. Yeah, it definitely became muscle memory. But the ill shit is sometimes, too, we might do some shit that we ain't realize. A mistake and it turned into. Yeah, because the cameraman is filming. So when we get the shit back, it's like we look at shit and we catch, oh shit, we just did that. We ain't even look at each other when we did that because it's like we'll do shit because we know where the drop is going to happen at in the record. We know the beat going to drop here. We know that the snare going to slap here.

1:20:03So after like mutes, when you do the drops in the beat. So we'll sometimes do shit just to amplify what's getting ready to happen at this part of the song. But if we don't plan what we're going to do, the shit look dope sometimes be a mistake yeah the mistakes sometimes or the moments you ain't think of but they happen in sync that shit will definitely get added to the scene I watch y 'all be so disrespectful I watch Livstar do shit like hey hey and I'm like yo this nigga crazy my nigga like yo I know when y 'all on one you always on one But I see shit with a nigga doing the sideways hat.

1:20:51And then the music come down and you be like, yo, let me tell you, you never argue with Scratchitor. You can't. You do it off-state, dude. No, I don't think you argue with Scratchitor. You actually argue. We family, we brothers. We going to read it. Every time I got a DJ like that, where it went to the symmetric floater, you can talk to them through the cheekbone through anywhere that nigga drop that shit like this, they quit. Every DJ I've had like that, that we ain't, what? You talk through the cheekbone, you're sick. I try to let it go. Talk through the cheekbone is a sick one, dog. Anytime I had a DJ, yeah, he had a self-inflicted.

1:21:35He had to have a self-inflicted flag. I remember my DJ, man, one of my favorite DJs of all about it, DJ Somatic. He live in Atlanta. What's up, Somatic? God loves you. He told me he was going to the church. Bless that man. That man might have broke my heart 40 ,000 when we had that shit gumdrop. You could just look. We was like, oh my God, that shit was so perfect that he would drop that. When we killed some shit in like South Africa, Chris Brown, it was just disgusting. And the man come back right when I said, oh my God, I got it. Quitting, brother. Going to church. Found the woman who wants me in church.

1:22:24Yo, you might as well have shot me, big. I'm like, he said, church. I said, God touched you? He said, God. I said, I don't go with this guy for now. no no no no no no no no no i had i had people i really was gonna hurt on another level and then they come and they go hey he got baptized he's with god and i'm like he's with god and they be like yeah you know the guy got baptized he's

1:23:08now when you find that chemistry that shit is hard to replace that that chemistry is when you find that magic chemistry that's what I'm trying to say like if I'm Busted Rums I'm never arguing with Scrapp yo I ain't got nothing to say to that man hell Scrapp even my DJ now loves him he's a sentiment spin oh my god you watch what you say He might quit on stage. I don't even play with him. I'm going to walk. I'm telling you. One day we in the car, he's driving, and we like, yo, make a left, make a right. The nigga stops the car in the middle of the highway, 70 mile, in the highway. Shit, nigga. Why don't one of you drive?

1:23:56No, Sven. Sorry. You're doing great. No. You want to try niggas? I'm like, yo, he get that. That man? Sensitive. We not barbara. Spin for nothing. Spin get away with anything in the world. Because we got that chemistry. Once you get that chemistry, you know, Spliff, he had a health scare. What was that for you? Because like, oh my God, man, I don't even like to think that way. Nah, Spliff and Scratch, like them brothers is literally like probably the longest consistent friendship and brotherhood that I've had throughout my entire life. So it's like, when it comes to health issues, it's super scary to fucking deal with, like the thought of that.

1:24:56You know what I'm saying? Especially the type of shit that Spliff dealt with. You know what I'm saying? So it really helped you. Like the shit you might have probably used to complain about a fucking shit that would get on your nerves and shit. You damn near don't even give a fuck about none of that. And that same energy get redirected into beefing over, making sure you're doing whatever you can to be as healthy as you could be. because obviously God don't know you know almost another five seconds tomorrow ain't promised so niggas got a really everybody got their shortcomings but there gotta be some prioritized fucking effort towards balancing out the bullshit and making sure that we gonna be here because we got a lot of shit left to do

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1:29:28my little came through on the backcourt. Man. Yo, your son is doing work. AI, Starberry. Your son. Yo wasn't going to let me play with any other team. Your son is doing. Yo, yo. Yo, what's up with your son, man? What's up with? He's doing work. I had a surreal moment last night, man. Tears of joy. My son was playing in Rucker Park. Wow. Wow. He's one of the top high school players in the nation. Oh, he did. And so the top 24 players in high school played in Rucker Park. What position he play? The slam game. Congrats, King. Congrats, King. This is a killer, man. You boy, you... I love to see that.

1:30:08Appreciate that. Showing up on us, man. Pleasure. We love you, my brother. Rafer Ulster, y 'all skipped in my loop. Yes, salute. Street boy legend in an NBA legend. Real shit. Yeah, yeah, but hold up. The street boy, he... I think he... Yo, Rafer, I think you positive and you fuck shit up. You know how hip-hop, they say, you know, we talk gangster shit. we good but we probably because I think you made every streetball guy think he can make it to the league that's what's non-cypher though they was not getting that you did that shit from the park to the NBA love you brother we salute you Kent we'll talk shout to the Fresno State days I listen crazy as shit you know it was my birthday party the other day.

1:30:57It was my birthday party the other day. Nah, I was there. Congratulations and happy birthday again. I was fried. I'm not Jadakiss. I don't have a memory of a bull. Let me tell you something, Bust. Right? And you got away. You probably the only human being that didn't have a suit on. You were still fly. You had Louis Vuitton, but if you wasn't Buster Rhymes, you was down the block wrecking. It's like, I'm telling you if I wouldn't see. I'd be like, oh, no, no, my man, you gotta get this. What? You bust the bus. Like I said, you like fucking, but I was gonna tell you, so I saw a picture, right? And so, you know, I never take pictures, but I see a picture, and it was the moment I saw Cali, and my face is just like, like, you can't even pay for that.

1:31:48Like, you know, there's certain friends that make you feel so good when you see them, and there's a picture somebody took I posted it where I seen Cal and I was like fella you hit a touchdown and your man is here and so that's what I feel like when I talk about Spliff with you and him that y 'all relationship is it's iconic too just to say the least. My brother closest friend on this planet he's definitely not somebody that you're going there's no Spliff is a one of none he's not even a one of one he's a one of none you know what I'm saying and Scratchitore is the same and I think that's what makes the friendship and the chemistry and just the magic of everything that we've had from single digit age to today that has allowed us to continue to evolve like I knew them before leaders you know what I'm saying like I was getting into shit that I shouldn't have been getting into being around the Spliffs and the Scratchitores yeah Spliff ain't no pussy I got busy with Spliffs like what you talking about Spliffs get busy I got busy with Spliffs Star I'm telling you he's not pussy Spliffs Star he get busy 1800 Toast Buster Ron's new project yo that shit knocked your fucking head off I was waiting for that that's what I was waiting for I'm like knocked your fucking head off knocked your fucking head off knocked your fucking head off knocked your fucking Jesus Christ what's this call right here this song right here we're about to be blessed with this is an incredible moment because it got two of my incredible brothers on it Dilla obviously is one of them and uh D 'Angelo is the other one.

1:33:49Oof. You know, it's still so recent. It's still challenging to accept that D ain't here no more. You know what I'm saying? So D 'Angelo and Dilla, I met both of them through Q-Tip. I met Dilla through Tip. I met D 'Angelo through Tip and Ali Shahid at Battery, where you ain't allowed to go no more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. or at Battery so I met Irv Gotti at Battery one day by mistake that's how I met Irv Gotti we both booked the studio we talked shit 7 in the morning I didn't know Irv Gotti that's how we got cool Battery's a beautiful place I'm sorry about it Battery got a lot of fucking history bro that's where all the scenario and all of that shit happened at Battery that's where Kid Hood he didn't even live long enough he did the first one day and died, I think, next day or two days later.

1:34:47Word, but a lot of history is in battery, man. But this record with me, D 'Angelo, and Dilla, this is called This Woman.

1:35:01We love you, Dilla.

1:35:06We love you, D 'Angelo.

1:35:27이번 목소리 하루�après result. This man, never come no one But if you come with this man, it will be a Let me talk, my little pretty Miss Peppermint So, smelling mommy, make you get up out the whip Greet you in the lobby As if being a concierge was a voluntary hobby So worthy of being escorted everywhere Your beauty remind me of a blossoming flower banquet Oscar award winning modern day Dorothy Dandridge Despite you from a foreign land I wanna learn your language I'm rambling a translation, whipping in a vanquish Your sub-disposition, demeanor, I love it So confident with the swag, lackadaisical with it Your Mac and Maybelline, perfect complexion Angel body, orange gene, a bottle shape Mommy so amazing, probably we could plan ahead Little I see an illuminated future Like walking a red carpet Let the camera flash and shoot you She boomerang it back to me Soon as my mommy see me Got her saying gimme, gimme, gimme This woman Never drop a number one With this woman It will be a bone Bone Bone Bone Bone Bone Bone Bone Bone

1:37:32Let me finish, baby. Undescribable, pretty, you make other women sick. I'm with you big, but I ain't, uh-uh, oh, hell no. So let me pull my chair up, love when you wear your hair up. Increase your sugar level, let me taste your maple syrup. Unstoppable, your hair silky with every magic motion. Soft to be rubbing baby skin with caramel daughter lotion. I now understand why your ex are trying to cause commotion. Caribbean queen conceiving my little Billy Ocean. Like to hear your voice when you get to speaking. Hypnotic when we sex, how your water force will be leaking. Maybe my description might be reaching when I'm climbing out.

1:38:04I ain't done with you yet. Now what you whining about? Well I'm making sure mommy feeling fine She make me go till I'm sending away right up her spine If you ain't knowing it's funny, I'm reaching every time She love to let me know it's mine This woman Never problem with no one But if you're talking this woman It will be a dumb, dumb But you're talking about But you're talking about

1:38:40This man, never come no one But if you come with this man, it will be a

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1:39:07You know what it is? It's the music for me, man. It's like, it's all about the love of the music. You can hear it. Ain't nobody trying to be this, that, do this, do that. Motherfucker just making great music. That's what it's about. That's how we started. That's how it is right now. I love that. That shit crazy. One quick question. The scenario video. who made up these ideas? Because y 'all did shit 20 years ahead of time in this scenario video. Like, who came up with that concept and all that? Who was ahead of their time like that? I don't know who came up with it. I do know that the director, I forget his name, Jim Swafield.

1:39:56That's the director. He was ill with the idea of, you know like how there's a part in the video where it's like a computer screen and then it's like the cursor moves and then you fall out of sync with the actual performance of the verse and it's intentionally done so that you don't say your shit on time and then you come back on time I think Jim Swafield came up with that but I know Q-Tip was very involved with He's hands-on with the micromanaging of all of the details when it comes to creative shit with trial. So I got to contribute. I got to acknowledge the tips of involvement, some kind of significance.

1:40:43Man, I can't lie. That's how I feel how you rap. That's why I start laughing all the time. Because say the beat is enough. It look like you're falling off and you come back. Right on the stick.

1:41:00right on the stand. I'm like, holy shit. It's almost like the mouse went off the screen and came back. That shit is crazy. Behind the Bars is presented by Sprite. Sprite. We got this Sprite segment and this track is on the list and we were supposed to talk about it. Are you talking about Put Your Hands With My Eyes? Yes. Just give us a little quick synopsis of like how that came about and the flow. All that to me was like no breath of fresh air. Like I never heard this before. That's how I felt to me as a fan. What was it like creating that song? Before we rhymed on the beat I was like this beat too quiet for me to be loud on it.

1:41:47It don't make sense to be loud on it because it was quiet. And back then it's reflected on some of the dudes that were stuck in time. A lot of the Caribbean dudes the Jamaican dudes, the Trinidadian dudes, the Guyanese dudes, and we would be in Southeast D.C. and these places. We're still talking in their regular accent and just add yo to the end of the sentence like that was camouflage in their accent. By this time we on, like this is way after that whole era, but we had this dude that was still stuck in that time. And he had money, but he always made himself look like he didn't have money. Yo, Busta.

1:42:28We know you have money. You just come back from TV. There's a big superstar. $200 US, yo. Yeah, I'm hungry, yo. We need some money, yo. Give me some money, yo. So I just was kind of making a joke. Mimicking him. Yeah. Making a joke. This is an L story, yo. This is crazy. Then you just said. I made, I was using, I was mimicking homie trying to be funny. It was like, we used to collect these, dance hall tapes and sound clashes. And you used like the same word down the whole verse to rhyme with. So I kind of just took that. All the little ingredients just made that. I had one verse and waited for like a day or two and wrote the second verse.

1:43:15Jeez, I was there for that. The way I was wiling up. Oh my God. They dove under the door. You heard? They was like losing their mind. Nah, that changed life forever, man. You know, that song right there just changed life. And it's work. You set it off, but it's work for like loud artists. Somebody always tap them and be like, yo, why don't you do some quiet? Check out the full Sprite Living track list and break down the stories behind your favorite bars. The link is in our show notes. This is the Sprite Living track list. Obey your thirst. but I'm going to tell you, it might not mean nothing to nobody else, but my favorite Boston Rhymes song, no matter what rhyme, no matter what you say, it's crazy.

1:44:04You're not going to believe me. It's the baby of you. Give it to me. I'll give it to you. You know what? You know I got it. It's such a perfect song. Thank you. It's just like a baby could recite that. I used to go to Virginia Beach. it's one of these shits we used to be waddling in. New York, Jersey, Philly. No, it's almost like that. Damn. It's one of those crazy shits with up-tempo rampers on it. What is the hook is like damn. That was crazy. Flavor in Your Ear remix. How you got. Rampage on that. no how did you do that you finesse I I took the Puff cause at them times I was the finish on every fucking record I was the finish put me last on every fucking record and and I was starting flip mode entertainment and I needed to get Rampage buzzing so when I did the verse and I sent it to him I had put I had told Puff I said I got my cousin wanna get on this I need him to get on this I said just listen to this shit and see what you think.

1:45:23So when he heard Ramp verse he was fucking with it but this is how Pup did me. He said if you want your cousin on this shit you gotta do this shit for free. Cause he got an invoice from me. You know what I'm saying? So I be nicked on the invoice to give Ramp the look. Because I knew what this moment was. You can fucking L, Big, Me, Craig, and Craig record was the most smoking shit at the time. Sure. And it just was a perfect scenario to get Ram, a springboard to jump from. Who did the original, the punk? EZ Mo B. EZ Mo B did that. You know what beat that is, right? What? Beat it. Beat it. All the way slow down.

1:46:16Beat it. I don't know. wonder. There's always something with an element of something. What the fuck got it?

1:46:24It's always... No! Nah. No! I only do my homework. I can go research. No! Whatever you want. Just listen. Use your brain and listen to it. You talking about the sample or you talking about the radio program? It's something I got the same shit. I seen Easy Mo P talking about. Yo, that's nuts, me. Just think of beating, boo. It's all the way slowed down. I get what you said. It's chopped up and slowed down. It's not just slowed down. It's chopped up and it's slowed down. Right. Shaheem, you ain't know that. You know everything. He got one on you, huh? I do this shit. Did you know that who shot you and I shot you came from the same sample?

1:47:14Who shot you? I shot you you know what it came from the same exact sample words you're not saying the same beat Steve Stout caught me the other day it says you think you know everything bet you don't know this we sampled the same sample for I shot you and who shot you who shot you is made by Nasheen the same nigga who made T-O-N-Y Emphatically non-cipher The fucking guys made Your man Trackmasters did that shit Everybody else took the problem Listen, I said Who shot you is made by Nasheem I don't say nothing about I shot you Who shot you Steve Stout says Stout didn't make the fucking beat Nasheem from the Hitman made it Can I tell you Steve Stout, Steve Sourgrout, any of you Steve Stout Who shot you Trackmasters made eye shots.

1:48:15No, no. They might have sampled the same thing. No, no. All right, breaking news. Can I say something? Can I say something? Steve Stout, now you're going to make me bring him here. Steve Stout told me the Trackmasters really made that beat, and Puff ain't give him no credit, so they went and sampled the same record and gave it to LL. Pretty boy, mate. You can hate me now. All type of niggas, mate. I'm not saying that. Kevin Louse wrote Milli Vanilli. You knew that? I knew that. But if you start going into that, you start saying they make me all the world. Kevin Louse, oh, girl, you know it's true.

1:48:56Kevin Louse got the publishing. Ooh, ooh, ooh. I love you. His name's on the back. Yeah. He wrote that. Get the fuck out of here, bro. That's Kevin Louse. Get the... Oh, shit. I want to go deep. No, no, no. You want to keep going? I got shit for days. That's crazy. This ain't that? Ooh, ooh. That ain't this? It's cracking kiss, goddammit. Oh, what's that? Aw, man. Why y 'all niggas doing all that, man? Happy birthday, King.

1:49:35Happy birthday, brother. Happy birthday, dude. Joey Crack What? Joey Crack Joey Crack Even the candles is new Yo, I can't blow those shits out Those shits that go with champagne bottles That shit you can't even That shit too much But thank you guys I appreciate it I'm not used to that shit right there My wife did that shit. They did that shit to me. The other day I was at Carbone, they came out with... Hey, let's give them a fuck. That's a cake to the head. No, no, that's diabetes. That ain't no sugar-free. I can see the sugar. Yo, let's get this flick. Kelly, thank you so much. I truly appreciate you, Kelly.

1:50:31Thank you.

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