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31:55That's coverage that you can count on for every single round. So when the moment happens, you're not catching up. You're already there. Now that, that's a total power move. In the UFC, power isn't given. It's taken. So make your total power move today. Visit TotalWireless.com or stop by your neighborhood Total Wireless store. 5G access requires a 5G capable device in a 5G service area. Monthly rates on the Total Base 5G Unlimited plan. For new subscribers, applies only to the monthly rate for your plan. Additional terms apply. See website for details. 2025 CC. Tell us about that project. Yeah, so CC, y 'all know that's my nickname.

32:32No doubt. Whenever I see my fans in the streets, they be like, what's up, CC? And it just feels so personal for me. So, you know, this chapter is significant. You know, being an independent artist, you know, running my own label is not for the weak, you know. But what I realized is that, you know, the power, one, it all comes from God. He's the CEO of all CEOs, right? He's a basketball boss and what he says is going to go. But the truth is my fans, like if it wasn't for my fans, I would not be here. So this has really been the era and the chapter of gratitude for me because it's 21 years since goodies came out.

33:08And to be sitting here talking, you guys feeling as young as ever, you know, but also feeling like I have so much opportunity in front of me. And I'm also doing things my way and how I want to do them and how I envision them and when I want to. It's such a blessing. But to have my fans with me along the way is so significant. Like it's so it's like I wish there was a better way to say thank you. So for me, giving my project to my fans, the CC album was a form of my gratitude to them because I basically started making this project back in the pandemic, like almost six years ago or five years ago.

33:47And I released songs and bits. And I was like, why? Let me start releasing them like as individual records. Let me just give them a complete package. So, I mean, since then, I've literally been, you know, I've had two babies along the way. You know, I've been on tour with, shout out to Missy and Busta and Timbaland. That was special. You know, a lot has happened along the way. And so I said, let me put a bow on it and let me just feed my fans in fullness. And so CC is the product of that and my feelings. But again, I'm just so grateful. You know, it's funny because I remember processing, like, where am I as an artist?

34:28Like, where am I going? Like, do I feel as 100 about it as I've always felt? Like all these different questions. And like, what are my fans going to think? Like, I'm not going to lie. Like, you know, I feel like we don't live in a time right now where the pressure's on like first weeks and all this kind of stuff. there's so many records that come out now. That shit goes with time. You know, but the thing is... That's a whole different thing that was not... Well, there's a thousand songs that come out a day, right? So you kind of... I'm independent, I'm not lost. Hey. I sold two million records with Atlantic, they tell me I still owe them.

34:58Wow. I went independent, put out albums that sold 100 ,000, 150 ,000, and I made millions. Yeah, 100%. So, you know, the thing with independent has got to be seamless. Your fans got to look... They do not care. No. if you're on fucking Warner Brothers or you're on Tito Blato Records. They don't give a fuck. They don't care. And if your video's still fire, you're working out, you know, I don't think you have money issues because I ain't gonna lie to you. That fucking rock on your finger from here is the most disrespectful shit. It look like the light fucking... It look like the light under the Titanic.

35:36It look like the shit that took down the Titanic. And I've seen shit. That shit right there? Oh my God. You don't have a problem with independent. But my thing is, I prefer independent because I have a problem with certain people having authority over me. Yeah. No, that was a real thing. You know, that's why I said... I'm begging them, yo. Well, yeah, you gotta wait for it. My record. Yeah, it's the truth. Fuck these dudes right here. They all bozos too. No, it's the truth. You know what's crazy though? Here's the big facts. I'm still signed to a major. I'm sorry. But everybody has, everyone has their own journey.

36:15Right. For me, I definitely feel incredibly empowered to be doing it my way because literally the day, you know, I had one of the worst. I call it one of the worst beings in my career, I would say, in one day and the next. So I was I went in with Level Up. Right. And so I'm trying to make this story short. but basically I was in this the recording system the major system right I don't like saying the name um but I was in the signed to the label and then there was a rotation of CEOs coming in and out so you all know like I know when you have a new system coming in you have to resell all over again and that's exhausting not only that they come in with a new monster how they want to run new everything favorite people so you got to convince them understood that yeah so you got it all over again.

37:03Right. So that was my second round of having to do that again. I'm like, man, this is crazy. Cause you already start the process. You already know where you want to go, but I've got to sell the next person all over again. So I had the meeting with the, with the gentleman and, um, with the guy. And then, um, you know, I played him the visual for level up, played him the record. I'm like, you know, I think this is going to be crazy. You know, I'm feeling real confident. And he basically was just kind of looking at me like, like, like he didn't see the vision of what I saw and so I walked out kind of like depleted because I'm like I was so hyped up for this meeting and now I'm about to get this record out and he yeah but it's crazy because the power manifestation is real literally a few weeks before this Russ and I were sitting up late night because I was so frustrated with the system in general I'm like man I can't wait to run my own label one day like I can't wait to do it my way and we start researching like people that own their own labels women that have their own labels like we just start going through this whole like rabbit hole.

38:00So then fast forward to literally it's crazy. Like what you say is so important. Like there's life and death in the tongue. So I always say, when you speak, you have a chance to tell your life story, say great things. So I'm like talking, like subconsciously speaking life into what I wanted to do, literally have that meeting, worst meeting in one day, the next day, one of the best days, because I started Beauty Marks Entertainment, my own label. And my idea was that all the scars you get from the offices you face in life or your beauty marks. So I was able to look at life's journey and be like, you know, all that I've gone through that hasn't been so beautiful and felt so ugly and so like uncomfortable when I went through it was, they're my beauty marks.

38:38Right. So me kind of just like encapsulate my journey. But anyways, um, you know, I asked my masters back, gave them to me for free. Didn't believe like that, like that. Right. Like that. Yeah. So. Bitch ass.

38:53I know who to call I need to talk for me I'm gonna call Joe Joe let him know let the hammer out get on him no but I asked for it gave it to me for free and then you know I'll never look back and now fast forward to level up is almost four times platinum to date all your money yeah it's a blessing and it's a song it just keeps on leveling up right you know just recently it's the song for the Starbucks you know commercial for the protein drink they have. And there's just been so many opportunities. It started retrending all over again on TikTok not too long ago. And then, you know... Look how God works.

39:28Yeah. God is so... As I say, he's a boss of all bosses. So, like, whatever he says is going to be, you know. The CeCe album, I seen you cooking up with Tiger. Yeah. I seen some footage of him. All our guests I usually have a song with. I just want to know why he never called... Oh, listen. You say less. when I walk out of here, I'm going to have a record. Ain't no more. No. You don't understand. You don't understand. You know, because I know Grammys for him. Because I flagged you down. Wait, I flagged you down at the Knicks game. Knicks game, yeah. I said, babe, I got, Jada's going to go, I got to watch it.

40:06Because you know, sometimes you go back to the back, but you don't understand. Like, you are like the best. You know, like, so. You know, Tiger cooking, that shit was dope. I'm like, damn. I would have thought it would have been perfect on this show also. It ain't too late for a remix. It didn't to the second part. It's not too late for a remix. Nah, nah, call. I'm here, baby. Let's do it. Done, done. Then the second part, I feel, there's one thing I don't like being signed to the majors, that all of the hard work, everything you showed them what you can do. Yeah. How the hell every time you want to release a project, it's like you got to keep selling it and keep doing the audition.

40:48Who the... Do you not know who we are? Why the fuck do we turn to like back the star search? Why don't you make your own independent and hire me for free? Hire me for free as your CEO. And I show you how to do it. Fuck them, man. I'm telling you. Yo, we show them. I know how to do it. No, that's why. I've been green. I've been winning. That's why. Winning like I never lose. I've been fucking winning independent nonstop. That's why the power of believing in yourself is so important. Right? Because you don't believe in them. Especially.

41:32Especially when you're in those moments, because, you know, you got. Those are not flags. This is good stuff. Those are good flags for once. Okay, good flags. That was a good flag. Don't worry about me. Yeah, I know. It was a good flag. Those are flags of delusion. You got to gain on the flag. Gain on the flag. Yeah, I got to gain. Okay, we got to gain. With the first... All our football. You see she talking about... Hold on, we going to get into that. Yeah. First international artist on the Rolling Stone Africa cover. What's up with Africa? Africa's the best, man. Africa is special. You know, I've been fortunate to go many times over the years in my career.

42:10and it's different when you go over there. The people, the sauce, the talent, the music. Before Afrobeats was a thing in the U.S., I'm going to tell you now, I was on it. I remember telling my team, I was like, y 'all, I think this is going to be the next wave in America. I'm telling you right now, it was, you know, the T-Waz Savages, the Technos of the world. I was literally dancing in the streets of Lagos in the street streets, like talking about, like they had to have the guys posted up watching you know only the guy who like lived in the neighborhood could shoot me like all kind of stuff on the visual but I remember being out there because I always love my thing is when I go to Africa like there's some parts that like leaves me in tears when I leave sometimes you know and I'm like I can't go here and just take meaning go and perform like performing is amazing there but like how can I give you know like you want to find a way to like give or do something and for me giving doesn't have to be in a monetary form it could also be just in your time touching the people going to the schools like so for me I've just I've I have that's one place in this world I fell in love with Sierra I don't know if you recall and I've been battling with myself about telling this story I tell it behind your back all the time I might as well I toured Africa with Sierra yeah we went on tour we had a run was that like a boujah it was like all these different places we was all over listen yeah that was crazy I'm gonna tell you a funny story tell me whether you know this is crazy right yeah so me and I tour in Africa and she's ripping it down we ripping it down and they used to do lean back on your set too right yeah yeah yeah so we go on we every day in the tour so one day I go on the plane in Africa and there's a girl right next somebody next to me with the hat, with the shit covered, covered, this, this, that.

44:07And I sit down. You know, I don't ever bother nobody else sitting next to you. And I look and I'm like, I'm like, Sierra? I'm on tour with you and she's like hiding her face. Why would you be hiding your face from me? She's like, nah, Joe, you know, I'm like, I'm like, it was the craziest shit ever happened to me in my life. I'm like, I'm with you every day. Why you just, you do that on the plane, right? You hide your face. Oh, I sleep with a blanket over my face. yo that's fucking crazy I'm with her every day performing she didn't want to see me on the flight listening clearly Joe is crazy and back in the days you said you was in your 40s he was real crazy so you know we got a Joe come with a she was dead ass like I was like yo Tierra I performed with you last night How you doing?

45:02Joe running around. Staying out of the way. Nothing like Africa. Yeah, no, Africa special. I just recently got a great opportunity to go to Benin. And I got my dual citizenship there, which is cool. So the first person, international person to get a passport certified in Benin. So it's a new whole thing they're doing for the African diaspora, where you can go and get your dual citizenship. and the president, Talon, gave me that opportunity. But it's just special. It's a magical place. You know, I got to shout out Diamond Platinum's, you know, he's on my song, Low. And that's been incredible, just engaging with him, like seeing, it's just different, man.

45:48Like, I can't even explain it. Like, it's something so special, it's intangible. But it's like, I want to keep spending time there. Like, I want to keep pouring into that place. because when you go there, they pour into you. You know, like it's really different. You understand Ali Bumbaye when you're in Africa in the middle of a village and they chasing you and you just walk, you feel like Muhammad Ali. Oh, it's special. Like Ali Bumbaye, you walking through, you go, you ever been to one of them? I've been over there. I'm supposed to go back. Oh, they're like, Jada, Jada, you be walking down the street.

46:22It's special. I've been in Africa where they cut your hair with the real razor. the fucking razor razor not a razor razor the razor and to cut that shit you know like the real razor and they giving you a cut and there's 5 ,000 people outside watching you get your cut and they fucking you know Davido I met him one year at the All-Star game and he was like yo I seen you in my village 10 times when I was a kid you ain't even know it was me we was in Africa hard though yeah and all it's special and everything you're saying it's different you know It's so funny because... Shout out my favorite African group of all time.

47:00They call them Magic System. Magic System. You know, they set that bitch off, man. That shit was crazy out there. Magic System. Y 'all know that song when y 'all get it, man. But yeah, Africa's special, man. It's different. No, for sure. Let's talk about this film production. Tell us about Sarah's Oil. So before we go in, I want to speak on one more thing about Africa. Okay. I also have a cool record with Molly and Oxlade as well. And, you know, I guess I'm only in my African bag right now. I'm just so, which by the way, you know, I've seen a couple of things people have been saying when they're like, you know, checking my timing on when I've been tapped in to Africa and the Afro beats and the music I've been on at.

47:48Like, go back in time and shout out to Techno because I did a record with him for almost like, it's been like almost eight years since we did a song together. So I've been tapped into it. People trying to act like you just getting up. Trying to act like it's new. Like we trying to follow something. Like, nah, we've been, we've been there, you know? So I got it. When, could you Google when another round came out with Chris Brown? Because I was with Chris Brown on tour. You don't know that one day we was on a show together. That was a big festival. and 2011, what's now? 2025? 14 years ago. So 14 years ago, I was with you in Africa and you don't know from Politic, that song backstage, we was talking and Chris was like, yo, Joe, let's work.

48:30I said, don't fucking lie to me, bro. Wow. Don't lie to me and say you want to work. He was like, nah, send me the joint. And that's how we came up with another round. You was in there, you was at that show with us too. That's crazy. You've been tapped in. Come on now, let him know, Joe. It's good networking, Joe. Let him know. But yes, I mean, what would you say, Jay? No, he did some good networking backstage with CB. Come on now, hustling. But yeah, no. So, and by the way, on that record, the Nice and Sweet record, because my fans would ask me about this song. There's a couple of technical difficulties happening in the background on the Nice and Sweet record.

49:05So it was supposed to be on my deluxe album that came out back in August. But the cool thing is that now the fans will be able to get it. and it's going to be on my deluxe vinyl that'll be coming out that they can pre-order once that record comes out. November 14th is the big date for that song. And again, Nice and Sweet, Oxlade and Molly. Again, I'm just, you know, it's just such good vibes all over. So I'm excited for that. Fire. Yeah, I'm excited for it. Now we can talk about Sarah's oil. Yeah, Sarah, you know, that's a young legend. You know, she was the first Black or one of the first Black millionaires at just the young age of 11.

49:44And she discovered the value that her family was sitting on in reference to oil. So I don't want to get too much of the story away. You got to check it out. You got a movie for you. Pull your shirt down, Jada. They trying to let you know. Nobody ever helps me. But thank God they're helping you, Jada. I watched the episode. My shit be up here like this. I look like con chocolate out this motherfucker. Like, yo, chocolate. You know what I'm saying? November 7th is the big day to be in theaters. I'm actually going to pull up to one of the theaters here in New York, so I'm excited about that. But yes, me and Russ did it in collaboration with our Wine and Your Productions company and Amazon Studios.

50:24It's a beautiful story and so necessary, especially considering where we are with history and like continuing on the importance of telling the stories, you know, of moments like this for Sarah. Like it's special. Yeah, so I'm excited for that. Do you live in New York or you live in Jersey? I'm in New York area. You're in New York. Yeah. I can't do it. Like, I can't come out of Midtown Manhattan building. You want to see people or you don't want to see people? Yeah, exactly. I don't want to see people. I don't want to see them outside my front door. Like, I don't want to come out and the post office be like, Joe, Joe, Joe.

51:04I'm crazy. But can I tell you, though, the people here have been so amazing. like it's that thing when they're like hey cc like they'll say hey cc and keep it rolling or if i'm like i'm in mommy with my babies they'll be respectful you know now some people they just get real excited and that's a blessing too but i love the city i love the energy like it feels like you're walking in a movie set every day here like it's always something happening i'm like don't try to shoot some kind of drop or video outside because you can forget about it You got horns beeping, ambulances going off, somebody cursing somebody out.

51:40We had the craziest. I can't do that. So listen for me, I'm from Decatur, Georgia. So Decatur, Georgia, where I'm from, like, you know, it wasn't the it was a little rough. Right. So you see a lot. OK, the rough in New York is a little different than the rough in Decatur, Georgia. But it's all it's kind of same language kind of stuff. So I remember being in the McDonald's the other day and this man was going off like I'm talking about crazy. going off and my kids are with me and I'm like what do I do and I said hey Rube I asked the kid I'm like is he what is it two of them or is this one because I'm like if he's one we all right because he's just going crazy but if it's two then we might shake real quick but it was like it's literally non-stop like that and then like you know I kind of like let the kids like hear a little bit because I'm for me like those little things added color to my world coming up but you got to be smart though right you know you want to be smart you want to make sure you keep your kids out of harm's way, but it's just like, it's literally never a dull moment in New York.

52:36Oh, no. Like, it's crazy, but it's so good. Like, culturally... You know, I'm so guilty. I don't know who taught us in the hood, like, going to the ghetto Chinese. We argue for no reason. Yo, where my fucking... Catch up! You ain't put enough duck sauce in my... I don't know why, but a movie. It's just a cultural thing. It's like you go in there just to argue with them. That's just cultural. That's cultural. That's like you just growing up where it's like, Like, it just becomes in you and a part of you. Now, I wouldn't argue with people at my duck sauce, but I know what you're saying. You know, coming up, and you're just probably being a hothead, right?

53:12Crazy. Just for no reason. Just like, I'm going to argue I'm going bad. Yeah. For no apparent reason. It's a little part of the New York way, but I think when you know that, like, you just go, there's just so much diversity and so much, like, culture here. Like, even for our kids, like, I love that Future's playing basketball with like boys, you know, a lot of boys that look like him. You know what I'm saying? Like where it's a lot of like, it's also a lot of dog. Like I love, for me, the dog that I was, how I was raised, like that was significant for me. You know what I'm saying? From where I came from.

53:47So I love that our kids, it's a little bit of, they get a little taste of something new and different, but like a little edge to them, but they know who they are though. Like they gotta know where they are in the midst of it all. But it's a lot of like goodness, you know, coming from this place. And my dad's from New York. My dad's from, he would say I'm from Harlem, 125th Street. When you ask him where he's from, proudly growing up, walking around with the boombox on his shoulder. So it's like, you know. I'm looking at you right now. I say, yo, Sierra, they're not even looking at you like you from somewhere else.

54:14They're looking at you like you from New York. You don't give off I'm from somewhere else vibes. You give off I'm from New York vibes. And your husband, man, the man on the team, you know, playing for New York, that's a different type of, oh, we got love. Yeah. Whoever support New York like that. Yeah. The lights are big in New York. Educational questions. No, the lights are big. Give me an intellectual human being question. You mean question? Subscribe that all out.

54:54Any more tours coming up? More tours? 100%. I'm actually planning on next year. I'm putting together plans. I really want to travel the world. You know, ideally... Like performing or just traveling the world? Yeah, I want to travel across the pond. I want to go to places like Asia. I want to go to Africa some more. I want to go to Australia. There's actually something really cool I'm confirming right now that's happening in Aussie for next year. so I haven't done like my own tour in a while. So it's time, it's time for me to take CC on the road, which by the way, what I was saying earlier, just going back, like one thing, I gotta go back to the fans again because what they show me on this journey was to keep going.

55:43So I've been processing like what, you know, like if you listen, there's a saying, if you live by the chairs, you die by the booze. So, you know, you hear so much conversation sometimes that if you're not in the right space. That's legendary for anyone famous or entertaining. Yeah. You live by the cheers. Yeah. God, the boo-hoo. Yeah. And the world can be like... That's better than yesterday's price, not today's price. That's a good one. That's a good one. Hey, everyone. It's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I'm sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook Project Hail Mary.

56:24Massive sci-fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth. I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, OK, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great.

56:59Because it served the story. People will say like, oh, my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you looking for support in your weight management journey? ZepBound Terzepatide may be able to help. ZepBound is a prescription medicine used with a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity to help adults with obesity or some adults with overweight who also have weight-related medical problems to lose excess body weight and keep the weight off. ZepBound is approved as a 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, or 15 milligram injection.

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59:05helps penetrate deep, keeps the joints moving, and Tums ready to counterattack with fast heartburn relief. Learn how Halion can assist your game day goals at halionassist.com. This is Daniel Cormier from The Daniel Cormier Show. This podcast is sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner of UFC. All UFC fighters know power doesn't wait in the octagon or outside of it. You either make the move or you miss the moment. That's why you need a network that's as powerful as you are. With Total Wireless, you get unlimited 5G data keeping you in on all the action. From the walkouts to the knockouts, you'll never miss a moment.

59:41That's coverage that you can count on for every single round. So, when the moment happens, you're not catching up, you're already there. Now that, that's a total power move. In the UFC, power isn't given, it's taken. So make your total power move today. Visit TotalWireless.com or stop by your neighborhood Total Wireless store. 5G access requires a 5G capable device in a 5G service area. monthly rates on the total base 5g unlimited plan for new subscribers applies only to the monthly rate for your plan additional terms apply see website for details but you know like it's like the thing too like you know the world can be like waves in the sea so like naturally you sometimes and kind of if you're rolling with the world you can be a little off your setting you can be like should i be doing it should i not be you start thinking about all these different things But the fans have shown me on this project, you know, we're nearly we're close to half a billion streams on the project.

1:00:33You know, we're we're we're pushing 300 north, 300 million. But they've showed me like. Yeah. Yeah. Like, so I got to take this show on the road. Like I got to how he rolls almost gold as well, which is amazing. Just the love has been insane. You know, I don't know much about him. I just know he's a super legend of all time. and you're giving me Elvis Presley vibes, right? So there's a... What? The problem, you want to talk superstars... Okay, let me follow you. You want to talk superstars, let's talk Elvis Presley. Okay. Right? And I could say even in Spanish, Hector Laval, my favorite salsa singer of all time, nobody could touch him, right?

1:01:21but I saw this autobiography what is it called your biography when they do a movie they did a movie about Elvis Presley Elvis Presley jump off the plane there's one million girls like like anything we ever thought Justin Bieber was or the Elvis was it like on another level doing movies first guy with the branch he was the guy like I mean there was a time where he fell a little flat I gotta use the bat. Elvis stole mad shit for mad people. Jay Brown, all this guy that go like, kids, he stole his shit. Okay, so you said fell flat. So what I'm saying is, at one point, no, we don't usually, but we'll talk.

1:02:05What happens to him when he hears that shit? I get it. What I'm saying to you is that they had this thing, this movie on Elvis, where Elvis literally was paralyzing. If he showed up at JFK, there was one million girls at JFK. The plane He couldn't even move. Yeah. Then it got to a point where people really ain't care about Elvis. So one day he's on his way to like a TV show. And when he's used to everybody chasing him and all that, when he shows up, there's no girls there. There's nobody there. Wow. And his manager starts hitting the car. Boom, boom, boom. Yo, duck, Elvis. Boom, boom, boom. Nah, nah, they out there.

1:02:42They chasing us. Boom, that's the people. And they actually lied to him and souped him up to make him feel like he's still Elvis. Wow. And, you know, he came back. But like when you see this movie, El Cantante with J-Lo and Marc Anthony, where Marc Anthony played Hector Lavore. Hector Lavore is, pound for pound, the greatest salsa singer of all time. And there's a part in the movie where he's doing shows and there's 10 people in the stadium. But he's the greatest of all time. So everybody go through a time where they got to fight that adversity and push through. You know, Elvis eventually pushed through.

1:03:19and, you know, became hot again. 100%. So that's, you know, that's where we got to check ourselves, you know, somewhere where, you know, shit just, you start questioning yourself, should you go on or whatever? I just think a hit maker, someone who pushes the culture, like I never go against Nelly. I never go against 50 Cent. I never go against certain artists that I know could hit one out the park. A star is a star. A star is a star. So I'm not surprised when Nelly come with a country record to sell 10 million out of nowhere. I'm like, fucking Nelly. I knew he could hit one out the park. Well, I mean, I don't know what great, like true great, like legendary, iconic figure hasn't been questioned if they could do it or if they couldn't.

1:04:10Right. This is saying, you know, Russell Hill, if Russ would say it, the greater you're great, the more they hate. Right. The greater you're great, the more they hate. The greater you're great, the more they hate. The greater you're great, the more they hate. So unfortunately, we live in a world where people, they love to take you all the way up. And then they also. They want to pull you down. They want to see you on your knees. I don't let them. You know. I don't let them, Jada. So I think that's like, you know. She's talking our language. She's saying that unfortunately, people like to bring you all the way up to pull you down.

1:04:45That's just the world we live in. So I was saying to him, I'm like, I don't know one great or legend or iconic figure like that's gone all the way to the highest place that hasn't been challenged at some point along the way or been told they can't do it again. Or hasn't been someone hasn't tried to pull them down. Like name one. I don't know. It don't exist. Yeah. But when you're great and when you're a star, you're going to always shine like a star. You're going to always cut through. star, the biggest entertainer ever lived in the history of mankind. They killed Tim, Jesus Christ. Come on now.

1:05:20And while he was walking to his death, they had people screaming against him on the side. All the frames. You ain't shit. You ain't this. You ain't that. So whenever, because we're not going to sit here. I don't know about y 'all, because he does a good job of it. Sometimes they get on my nerves when they start talking shit about me or comments or interviews or whatever. Sometimes I'm human, although I don't let them see it, but sometimes the shit bother me. I'm like, yo, man, I just came back from feeding a thousand people in the hood. They telling me I ain't shit. That bothers. Right? But I just think of Jesus Christ and I say, yo, he had haters.

1:06:01His perspective. You know, and you look at it, he hated on Jesus. He's the greatest of all. Jesus was killed by the police. That's a pun line. Jesus was killed by police. You know, I'm a big fan of Game of Thrones. And I remember she was terrible. The Queen, Cersei, but they made her do that walk of shame out there. Right? The Moscow. Shame. Shame. Shame. And they wanted to see that. They were like, you know, these people been rich for so long. They this and this and this and that. I want to ask you, because you got a crew. Lala, the Kardashians, the this, Very elite. How do y 'all keep that friendship for so long?

1:06:43You know, I got to say, like, Lizzie, I call Lala Lizzie. I've known her for, I don't know, I don't know how many years this is now. Yeah, we we definitely we're almost pushing the time since I first came out. You know, she's solid. She's special. And I think, you know what the best thing is for all my girls? Right. You know, is when they they're not like waves in the sea. Like, you know, you got real friends, like when you're going through something and they're calling you to check on you or when you call them, they answer every time. I've been so blessed to have such a strong support system of girls and friends in my world that are also bosses.

1:07:25You know, I'm not going to lie. Like, I respect the hustle of all my friends. Like, you know, so when we talk in hustle language, it's not foreign to us. you know it's all the same language and I think that's important in your circle of friends that you have I think it's important to have you know like-minded individuals or people that you know are thriving or striving you know because everybody starts from somewhere they don't have to be in the best place of their lives but they're striving you know to be their best selves you know when you talk they uplift you you know they don't bring negativity with the Kardashians like has Kim ever asked you for some dance moves I believe so Kim is actually funny Kim is actually funny when we start talking about dancing you know she's she's cute she'll actually be like hey Kim can you know you do this little cute challenge thing that I'm doing and she'll do it her best way but um does Kim like hip hop?

1:08:17of course Kim of course now y 'all don't put me in no no Vietnam I miss Ashtonu do she like hip-hop? I don't know. I think Kim likes all music. I take that. You ready to go with it? She don't like hip-hop? I don't know. Come on. Y 'all are silly. What is happening today? First of all, hip-hop let me say this shit. I was going to say this shit. Hip-hop has been stolen, used and abused by every single genre in the world. You can be watching a movie and something comes up, they have to play the hip-hop record. When I listen to country, they beat hip-hop with their lyrics and the way they sing and the shit now.

1:09:12When I listen to pop, they beat hip-hop. Everything, every aspect of entertainment in this world needs hip-hop. There's just no way around it. Can you say hip hop has influenced the culture of music and entertainment so significantly that it's inspired? More than any other genre. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I meant to say. That's not what I meant to say. What I'm trying to tell you is that if I pull up another genre, that's a political way to say it. If I pull up pop. We're going to find hip hop. The little girl going to sing like a rap. Whoever wrote her shit is hip hop. Well, that's the power.

1:09:53Country. As much as they don't want to give it up, I listen to their music and I hear bars. Yeah. Where somebody from hip-hop wrote that shit. And everything, K-pop, they stole from hip-hop. But is that a bad thing, though? No! Duh. No. I'm not mad at that. But when you say stole... Influence. But what I think is, my thing is... That's like me. You're playing the genre. Yeah, you claim you want to talk about Chuck Berry and what's my man, Richard, Little Richard. All up. Like, I can hear. Yeah, all the niggas that Elvis stole this shit for. Man, people been stealing from hip hop is what I'm trying to tell you.

1:10:38And they calling it their own genre. They're like, this is K-pop. This is whatever. You know, this is this, this is that. But I hear the hip hop. The dancers are hip hop. Everything is hip hop. But they got their own shit. but that shit come from here is what I'm trying to say. The origin, the source. The source. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah, and everything has its origin but again, it just lets you know like the power of the influence, right? Like that's just that's music though, like you know, I think it's something to be said about how you get inspired. It's like my record, like oh like my cadence is a little hip-hop driven but intentionally that.

1:11:16Well, you've been hip-hop since you was born. You know what I'm saying? So that's the, but it's the core, like when you say hip-hop for me because i'm from atlanta like hip-hop in new york it's to me it sounds different than when you say hip-hop because there's r &b for me right r &b is so significant like hip-hop and where i'm from you know so both genres are like so present our hip-hop is our hip-hop new york hip-hop is his hip-hop west coast hip-hop is his hip-hop you know i'm saying so but ultimately it's all pop culture right it's all pop culture right is that is that influential when you think about what you're saying.

1:11:51Yeah, I'm just saying. They should put some money in the pot for the pioneers or something. You know what I'm saying? You're using the culture. You know what I'm saying? We got music to play. Let's hear something. We do. Yeah, I'm going to play low and nice and sweet. My man, I got the leg right here. Let's go. Let's go. You and her, show us the low challenge. And then you got to do it. We can bake one up, though, because it's you and I. We can just go low how we want to go. You got to take it easy. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. We can lean back and go low. We can't go low. Joe, we can lean back and go low.

1:12:27Give us a low. That would be the matrix. Give us a lean back. If you do that, we out of here. We passed out. We're going to the moon. Show us the low. I'm going to show you when the track comes on, we're going to get up and try together. But I got to see it first. You guys, you New Yorkers are so aggressive. You gotta show us, and then we gotta try. Guys, you New Yorkers are so aggressive. Yo, come on, dawg. Joe said to me, show us the low. New Yorkers, yeah, show us. Show us the low. Show us the low. We've been bamboozling and hoodwinked over here. We can't agree to anything till we see. Oh, crack.

1:13:13He's right. let's do a toast for your new song okay upcoming birthday shout out to the Scorpios salut shout out to life man just living life being good people yes sir you took a sip you can get low you don't take sips listen one more sip you low let me get one more

1:13:46Let me tell you something I'm like the scarecrow I need a little oil in my joints You know what I'm saying I can't get low Alright I'm going to play this record So this is me and Diamond Platinum This is my song Low The video is out It's been amazing All the love everybody's been showing It's been incredible And like I say my boy Diamond's from Tanzania So I'm going to get into this record right now Tanzania is the furthest place I've been on earth. That's a flight. I actually haven't been there yet. Oh no, it's a flight. I've been there. Crank that shit. Put it up. Get low, crack. Hey. Yo. Hey.

1:14:29Yo, yeah. You did it again.

1:14:35Talking. Your body's calling. Telling me to show you how. I can make you proud. I put it down the right way. Yeti's hips make up why I won't try me. So please put your face, get behind me. We'll change positions. You take a hold on me. I'm having visions of you getting down with me. And I know what I know you've been watching me all night. If you're moving right. I'ma let you take control Wipe down for you, Lolo Just don't leave me dancing on my own I'ma let you take control And I think you're ready for more Yeah, now let's get more No, no, no, no, no, no Holy shit!

1:15:43Oh

1:16:02By the way this song is fire right

1:16:34Put it down

1:16:44You can go. You can go.

1:16:52I can get it. Woo! Woo! I can feel it in the air. Baby, take me. Take me there Holding something Take care Uh-huh That's me Ooh, boy, yeah When you beholding me Something comes over me Takes out control of me Control because When you beholding me Something comes over me Takes out control of me Control because

1:17:45I can't wait to see that line. Let's go. Can't wait to see that on top. We threw the flag. Now we tried, though, Sissy. We tried. That was good. That was good. That's fine. That song is fine. No, that song is crazy. Thank you so much. soul is fire. That sounds like a hit to me. I don't know. And then, you know, with the Joe and Jada effect, it's going up even more. It magnifies whatever. I need those iPhone videos. I need those iPhone videos. I need them. No, no. Give her that footage, man. Let her get up the footage of Joe going back and me going low. That's crazy. That's too good. Let me tell you something, man.

1:18:27I got one more for you, by the way. That's cool. Okay, so this next record. That shit was like a freak of nature. You went low to the point of where your neck almost hit the floor. I'm like, what the fuck? Come on, man. My fat ass is like low, low, low, low, low. They're like, no, no, no, no, Joe. Don't do it. Stop. You did good. You did good. Okay, so this next record right here is, this is me, Molly, and Oxlade again. And Molly is from Ghana. And Oxlade is from Nigeria. So, again, I'm just in my bag with my people. So this is called Nice and Sweet. And we're going to sauce it up. November 14th is our big day.

1:19:09So I'm about to give it to y 'all. Nice and sweet. Let's go.

1:19:16Let's go.

1:19:22Tonight my flight to the West Indies. Spill a little bit of the island breeze. Little bit of money and a little CC. But it won't make you feel right by me. Pretty like a pretty little eye candy. When I come get on the dance floor, please. Move like she got the right tautics. Now they wanna give it to me nice and sweet. Give it to me nice and sweet. Give it to me nice and sweet. Give it to me nice and sweet. Now they wanna give it to me nice and sweet. They say, CC, can you want it? The way I reverse. Hands put in the work. Get away so tight. Yes, sir. Pretty itsy bitsy packing all of them curves Wanna give it to me nice and sweet Wanna give me that, oh wait Stay with me, sway with me Give me all the honey Make it sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky Yeah, like it Make it sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky Slipping sky Make it sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky Ooh, I like it nice and sweet

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1:21:04talk Everybody with the eyes can't see One baby she likes my teeth And if she can't leave me, cause I'm that teeth Let me hold you down, girl, I'm back at teeth And I'm not gonna see if I'm wearing everywhere I can't see You look like a pretty little eye candy When I come, get on the dance floor piece Move like she got the right her teeth Now they wanna give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet Now they wanna give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet Give it to me nice and sweet

1:21:54Give it to me nice and sweet That's a vibe right there Yay It's two vibes Yeah, nice vibes I like great vibes Thank you. So Ciara, that ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Oh, the two sips did it. Y 'all. The two sips. Yo, I can't. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for our guest, Ciara. Thank you for that.

1:22:28So good. Ciara, that album, say C. You can't do nothing whack. I just heard two smashes in a row and just some artists, they just that good. Got the it factor. When you got it, you got it. When you don't, I'm sorry. The new project. I appreciate y 'all so much and I know who to call when I need somebody to light somebody up one time. I'm calling both of y 'all. I'm calling both of y 'all because we know they will handle it with ease and authority. I appreciate y 'all though. This was really fun. Honestly, I was so excited to come in. I know I said earlier, but you guys are just amazing. And I'm enjoying what you're doing for the culture, for hip hop and beyond.

1:23:10So thank you all for having me. Appreciate it so much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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