Clipse on "Let God Sort Em Out,” Pharrell, Jay-Z & Def Jam | Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Pusha T & Malice

29:28I haven't done that in a long time, B. I don't know if I want that opportunity. I'm keeping it real.

29:35Malice:Well, for us, you know, I guess with us just being away for so long, it's like, it's the highlight to get back in front of the fans. You know what I'm saying? So we'll sacrifice that. We'll suffer that. No, no, they're waiting for you too. You know, now, I love it. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love to get tired of it. Listen, I go see kids every time he in off, man. You also do pull-ups with one finger, bro. You not built like Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury, man. In this time and era, there's a lot of young dudes that look older than everybody on this couch. Yeah. From the never they put everybody in, never they indulge you.

30:16We also got to understand whether we all don't want to take the role model stance, but we are. And so, you know, guys prior to us, you know, They fucked up with drugs and all type of shit like that. And it was really hard. We've always loved them for the integrity of the music and what they played for the game. But these young kids, they looking at us. There's a young kid right now popping 25 or something who's probably looking at this shit like, yo, my OGs look good, bro. That means I could look right. I could be right in the future. I could do right. And that's a moral obligation that we don't accept, but we really do accept.

30:59Yeah. You know, and I can see that. We do. We pushing forward the right way so the young brothers and sisters see us and know they can get to the promised land.

31:13Malice:I got a five-year-old too, man. So I got to be. You got to be in shape. He's getting loose from you in the park. Yeah. You can't breathe. You can get out of there. Gotta chase him. Yeah, man. How y 'all feeling about the album? I see y 'all at an event. Y 'all had to play it for the DJs, play it a couple sessions. How did it go? How was the reception? Like Pusha said, man, the faith is in the music. You know what I'm saying? It's what we believe in. Once we deliver exactly what it is we want to do, when it sounds the way, exactly the way we want it to sound, We don't think about nothing else. We delivered our part and release it and just see the acceptance, however it comes.

31:58Malice:I think the biggest part of a fan, like with me, the biggest part of a fan is like, yo, what the clips are thinking in 2025. Like, what they talking about 2025. You know, something, well, I don't know if you know, but something you get criticized for is talking that heavy weight 20-25, right? I got guys that be like, your man be talking I be like, yo, I love this shit Let me chime in on that the beautiful thing of coming from where we come from and talking the talk we talk is the challenge is how can he say what he want to say now after having success having money, getting married, being a family man, still active, still doing his thing.

32:51And when you're nice, that's the only challenge. Everybody that keeps saying he's saying the same thing, they ain't even fucking listening right. And they just need something to say because they got a keyboard with a stick button. And not only that, what is

33:02Malice:everybody else saying? What is everybody else saying? I agree with you one million percent. I just came off a vacation saying you'll pay. I was riding on a plane and it just immediately speaks violence. I just don't know. I'm in the nicest place cobblestone. Shit is beautiful. I jump on the plane. I'm like, when I blow the head off, it's like I don't know if people understand. Maybe it's my therapy. Maybe that's what I do. What is it for you? You know what I liken it to? I liken it to just having a you know, first of all, rap has always come from a very real place. You know what I'm saying? So it's like.

33:49For real rap, for rap, for people that can rap.

33:52Malice:Yeah, it comes from a very real place. So, you know, with that being said, and, you know, being in it, you know, 23 years, I feel like at this point, I liken it to, you know, only like, you know somebody who loves mob movies or a person you know i'm saying person that that's what they choose to like you know i don't i don't watch um i don't watch horror i watch a and e you know it's it's scarier i believe it you know i'm saying so it's like i i liken i liken my music to that as well um i don't know man i listen you can't please everybody But listen, 23 years in this, I'm not trying to please nobody but myself.

34:40Malice:That's what I that's what I care about. Like, you know, I know that my taste, my ear and what it is that I want to hear that resonates with a certain type of person. That's the type of person I want to talk to. That's the person I like. person you know I'm saying I know the person who says that who says like oh you know he talked that heavy this and that and that like man I'm sure I don't even gel with you anyway we don't even like you I know I don't like you I'm positive I don't like you we don't like you but you not even my type of dude you not man so I just you know I take it with a grain of salt but you know more importantly I know I know who my fan is.

35:29Malice:I don't even call them fans. I call them family. I know who my family is. Like, I know who I'm talking to. Y 'all recorded this album at Louie? Yeah. Just like this, actually. Yeah, like, it's no booth. I'm just sitting down. Louis Vuitton? That's where they recorded it at. Yeah. It's no booth. This guy's gotta be stopped, man. today we're shooting two episodes I pulled out a little boat take it because it's rainy outside yeah yeah yeah but then I got the Louis outfit I said I better not wear this Louis outfit because they might come with the shit and fucking lime green they got everything Louis these guys I got a holla at Pharrell too man I said don't play yourself and bust this shit out I haven't seen you in a while Pharrell I'm looking for some love man they ain't seen you those no really no no we ain't get He didn't send me anything.

36:26He used to love me. I don't know. I definitely thought he sent you those. He didn't send me anything.

36:33Malice:You're only looking at Jada. I needed to. I really thought that he did. Because he would. Pharrell has not sent me a croissant. Once I get in contact with him, it's going to be a way. Pharrell has not sent me a croissant. For Louis Vuitton. He put a Q in and a croissant. a croissant from Louis Vuitton and man I love Pharrell I'll tell you something without telling you I'll tell you in Morse code somebody was playing with me and I throw the hoodie somebody was playing throw the hoodie off somebody was playing with me and the only person I could think of was Pharrell not him playing with me but I asked him I said yo I'm having this situation wait, it's not too crazy.

37:25I get a phone call one day like 2 in the morning Pharrell. Such and such. Hangs up the phone. I said, damn, he keeps it 100. He keeps it 10 ,000%. You know, we got to the source. We worked everything out. But I mean, like the man will he... Yo, Pharrell a real one. Let me tell you something. He'll make the call. You won't believe it. 2 in the morning call. yo I'm like okay now I know what we're dealing with you know what I'm saying you gotta know you gotta know the hitting hand in certain situation yo Pharrell stop man come on hit me give me a headband or something from fucking Louis Vuitton or something yo not because he's showing us I'm just waiting to catch up with him I already know I ain't stressing because when You know, when I see him, he's going to show something.

38:21He's going to show a little. Rest in peace to Ice Pick, man. Oh, man. Of course, man.

38:27Malice:Definitely. Ice Pick, man. Shout out to the whole family, old school family, Phil and Ray, and everybody that I was introduced to. Oh, we got that song? Yep. That's it? All right. Let's not even play. No further. Let's get into this. You came with results. You walked right in with results. Put it up, though. Yeah, come on. Man. Oh. I'm back, bro. Woo! Woo! Yeah.

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42:04Yo, let me tell you something, man. You guys, man. Oh. it's a certain quality in your music you know it's just it's a certain quality cause you never miss that you know what I mean Pharrell obviously that's two for two he's going crazy on this album right here you know what I'm saying but I also hear like when you work with Kanye when you work with it's always a certain quality to the music like you know what I'm saying like him and Pharrell just got something that you can't buy. There's something there. They got some... It's a different kind of camaraderie and chemistry and energy. And synergy.

42:49All that shit is just different when they connect. And you get the Kendrick Lamar, right? That didn't sound like a beef record to me. It sounded like hip-hop. It just sounds like some beautiful shit. Like dumb shit, right? He said the politics of it. They ain't even, they probably didn't even listen to it, just hearing the idea of the clips and them. The optics of it all. They viewed it before viewing it. My thing is, right, when you get into like highly publicized battles and shit, everybody think the next 20 records you rapping about somebody. You ain't been thinking about that shit. Exactly.

43:29Right?

43:29Malice:I mean, is that the case? I think so. I think so. I think that, I think that happens a lot. You know, I mean, you know, listen, man, like I said, we've been in this so long that like a surface level listener is just not my type of person. That's a fact. Like surface level listeners ain't for me. Like, man, we not for, we might take that sound bite and use it as a clip on my new album. Yeah. Don't listen to our shit. Yeah. Listen to the other shit. It's fine. he didn't make it for you no I love that man that song right there was crazy too thank you Kendrick going crazy on that thing y 'all both going crazy like you know what I'm saying I seen it again I seen when his verse about to come on I see the ears open everybody like yo what you got to say but that that's the fun of it you know what I'm saying that's the fun of it I feel like we miss you guys man We just so happy you guys are back.

44:34Thank you. Thank you. So you say somebody like you would just you know, we look at you as greatness. You and your brother. No, we do. Appreciate it. Thank you. Be clear about that. Same here. Right? I be thinking like I had an argument with somebody. We was talking about top female rappers. Who was it? You, Chris? Somebody told me yo, Lauren Hill don't rap. I said Lauren Hill don't rap. Right? But no, no, I'm just saying, hold up. Right? Okay. I think she's the greatest female rapper, right? But my thing is, she walked away from the game. Right? And then be like, yo, where's Lauren? Like, what?

45:19I feel like I got cheated out of a fan. I could have caught some more albums. Right? Like, what is that like when you just... And as a rapper, how

45:29Malice:do you pay the bills if you just walk away yo let me tell you man when i walked away that was for me that was for me that was for my soul that was for my peace of mind um that was just for my integrity you know what i'm saying if i didn't walk away ain't no telling what i would be doing how i would be or whatever so it was uh you know just taking inventory of my life um i'm much better for it i I wouldn't trade it for anything. You know what I'm saying? Me being back here now is a, it's a passion, you know, it is a, it's a luxury. And the fact that I get to be with my brother, I'm just cool with, with, with all of that.

46:13Malice:And you got to understand it's like rap ain't never been the reason I eat steak ever. You know what I'm saying? You know, I appreciate it. I'm very grateful for this opportunity. glad to be able to be put back in this position. And my God provides, man. All the time. All the time. And when I left, I didn't leave knowing how the bill was going to get paid. I had no idea. And he showed himself faithful all the way through. I don't even know how them walls stood up, but they did. And every car and everything else, too. So I thank him for it. Yeah. Very important. it's funny you say that you felt cheated I be going through Twitter and when we dropped Ace Trumpets one of the biggest tweets was like they was mad at you they was like oh we've been missing out on this for this long how dare you do this stuff I feel like that with artists like him Lauren there's a couple of artists that I was like yo I wanted more I see that tweet had a lot of activity you have to do what you have to do for yourself and I'm very very in tune with God too I know that I know that.

47:22I see you. So I'm always, he always shows himself. Yeah, he does. You know what I'm saying? At moments, I try to tell my brother, you know, my brother, he just lost his moms and lost his, his daughter got hit and run. Sorry to hear that. And he just was like, he was in front of a church by mistake and the bell started ringing and he was like, yo, Joe, I see what you're saying. Like she with God. You know, people think they don't see God, he come. He'll come and let you know yo I'm here and I got you. And so I understand what you're saying. Some place where me and you can relate when I hear to this thing because we doing this podcast.

48:08So when your new job is talking shit you bound to step in shit and I step in shit all the time. Say it again. Kiss is an innocent bystander. He be on the couch It's like, oh, my God, not again.

48:23Malice:That's good, though. But one of the most comments that I get, right, is people saying, so say I said. I pray for first class seats. I didn't say I pray for private. I say I pray for first class seats because the one or two times I went in coach, I sat next to the Beverly Hillbillies. and little kids was throwing packs of potato chips, smacking me in the face and climbing over my shoulder. And I was like, Jesus, please get me back up there. And I pray all the time for first class seats. Now I get backlash. Yo, we both landing at the same time. Joe, you change. You was broke from the hood. Now you want to sit first class.

49:16I get a lot of people so I would like to believe that yeah I grew up poor but my audience grew up with me they're not 18 years old no more maybe they aspire to want better shit in life so when I'm up here talking about it used to be inspirational like when you went in a mode of version of it where people be like yo I want that yo I could get that now it seems like a backlash and this hook what the hook said on the hook right there

49:48Malice:Uncle said nigga you must be sick all you talk about is just getting rich choke my neck and ice my bitch beat the system with chains and whips yeah hello yeah that's what I'm talking about in a nutshell right yeah so once again you ain't rapping for them guys they not for us that's where I gotta put it at they not for us they not on the surface they not on the level a fan because I look at the shit and I'm I'm dumbfounded some of this shit like oh man you think you rich you think you living a life you think I'm like bro what do you want me want to be like exactly yeah you want me to tell you how broke I am or some shit I gotta heat up the house with the stove and shit like that I think I think if I could add scripture says seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all All these things will be added unto you.

50:46Malice:He wants you to have all the desires of your heart. Just put him first. You're not supposed to be walking around here dusty and destitute. You know, you look at Job. You know what I'm saying? He was, you know, one of the richest people in the Bible. Like God wants you to have. The only thing is we put so much before him. That's when it all goes haywire. It's always got to be him. Yeah, it's got to be him. That's how I feel. I just spoke at my mother's funeral and I was just talking about, you know, all the great things and all the sacrifices. as I seen my mother do. But at the same time, I got to praise him.

51:17Even when I'm feeling sad or when I'm feeling happy, I got to let them know this was all due to him. Amen. And it's crazy because when you serve God and you're faithful and you put him first, I'm telling you, I keep telling you, I think I'm crazy. Everything you ever wanted, it may not come in the time you wanted. Anything you ever asked for, you will reveal it one day fact. I swear to God. It's a fact. It's just the way it is. It's a fact. And I tell them. You can say it till you blew in the face. Yeah, but I tell them all the time. I try sticking people up. I try selling drugs. I try doing this.

51:56I try doing that. Once I try God. You ever heard that story I said about the God. So I'm in my couch. Right. I'm in Miami. I'm by myself. No, this is a good one. Jada, you ain't got to hide under the hoodie. This is a God This is a confession.

52:16Malice:Right, right, right. This is a confession, J.D. You ain't got to hide this. Testimony, man. This is a testimony. I'm in my couch, I'm all alone. I'm in my couch all alone. Right? Why you got me so vivid like that? Well, what you want me to do? That's what storytelling, I'm telling you to do. I'm in my couch all alone. And I'm thinking about, why life ain't going so good for me? Why I ain't where I want to be. Why, you know, friends ain't really checking up on me. Why I'm on one of the moments I'm sitting down and I live five minutes from my best friend, Callie, right? So he's up the block. So I'm just sitting there and I'm going through it and it just, it hit me.

53:11i said god we gotta put god first god is the answer if we stick with god it's gonna be the truth is this and this and that so so it hit me i finally soaked it in the stuff i'm talking now that was the moment right i rushed to callid's house right now callid's my little brother i put in the game. He got the$100 million house. He's beyond happy. His own planes. He's living a life. Five minutes away. Right? So I got you. Right? So I pull up. Khaled usually got security. Guys with AKs in front of his house, no security. I walk in, he got a staff, 15 people. Nobody working. He usually have his wife and kids there.

54:00Nobody's in there. I walk all the way in his house. When I walk in, Cal is in the jacuzzi by himself looking the other way. So I said, yo, Cal, yo, Cal, he doesn't turn around. I said, I've been speaking to God. He turns around and jumps up and goes, God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. He wouldn't stop. God is the greatest. So I said, this guy knew all alone. All alone, this guy knew and never told me. He never sat me down. He said, yo, Joe, look, I know you want to be tough. I know you want to, but this is it.

54:40You know what I'm saying? That's why when I found out, I started screaming it to everybody. Yo, I found it. You can't help it. You can't help it. Killers, hustlers, everybody. This is the way. You want to be successful? You want to come up? Be loyal to God. But I got upset at Khaled because he knew. All I had to say was Yo Khaled He knows my voice I've been talking to God He turned around so fast God is the greatest God is the greatest God is the greatest God is the greatest And I said yo Amen This guy knew the secret All the time So that's why You ain't gotta use the hoodie right now This is a positive This is a family show Jaded kiss This is a family show I'm very rooted in In the high spirit myself if you do my background history I pray for good health though you know what I mean I think money and luxury and watches and all that stuff will come I pray to be healthy to be have the remaining years with my mom and dad and my kids and I think everything else will fall in line I love that that's right

55:51Malice:what are some of the things you pray for oh man I pray for that he draws me closer to him and that I seek him diligently. The scripture says he is a rewarder of those who seek him diligently. I'm up three in the morning, like every morning praying because I get woken up at that time and I get on my face and I pray. I cover all of my family. I cover all of my nieces and nephews. You know, I mean, this is daily. My wife sees me get up at this time every morning. She knows where I'm going. I'm going in the closet, close the door behind me. This is every morning. And I think you can pray for whatever you want.

56:35Malice:There's nothing wrong with praying for things. So that's fine. I just, I like to wake up. I'm thankful for things like being in my right mind. I'm having my sanity. I pray for friends and family that I know that are going through things. People that are sick or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Brothers and Jim, what you pray for? for sure. Man, just my family. Honestly, just my family and I just got a whole new outlook with, like I said, with a five-year-old, I got a five-year-old son. Yeah. So it's, man, I just pray to be here for him the whole time. Yeah. I had to watch this whole ride. With this being, since we took a little, we went to the pulpit for a minute.

57:16Let's get back to the album. There's a track on the album. That's how you say, wait.

57:21Malice:No, that's how it is. don't sing. I want to hear, I want to, I'm just playing, I'm just playing. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Our parents passed away four months apart. Wow. Yeah. So, November 21 and March 22. Yeah. November 21, my mom, March, March 22, our father. And, so, Birds Don't Sing is featuring John Legend, Stevie Wonder on the keys. And the song is basically my last conversation with my mom, speaking to it, and his last conversation with our dad. And tough, tough record, man. Super tough record to write. Tough to write, huh? Yeah, yeah. I mean, gut-wrenching the whole time. That's the kind of pain that I need.

58:16Malice:I can't wait to hear that. And just it had it actually starts the album. Everybody puts that, you know, puts record like that at the at the at the bottom, the last joint. Now this joint actually starts the album just to set the tone and show you the depth and just where we are. You know, how we feeling, honestly, before we get into all the chaos, you know, we don't know that. We got a lot of friends, but, you know, I lost my brother, my, my father, then my mother all in like a four month. Yeah. So, you know, and all my friends, you know, not to say his business in May would have been right here.

58:59You know, his mom just got sick last night. I think I'm hitting the age where my brother Serge, his mother just passed away two days ago. I'm hitting the age where a lot of my friends are starting to lose their parents and they can really, really use that.

59:14Malice:Right. And relate to that because this is the type of thing I've seen people lose their mind. Right. So my biggest fear in life was always if I lose my mother, am I going to go crazy? Literally schizophrenia or some shit. Right. I had that fear my whole life. And so with friends of mine's lost parents, I would really check in on them because I'd be like, yo, that's the type of shit that I, you know, it takes a lot to. to stop me. It takes a lot. You know, my mom's died the next day. We were shooting Joe and J. It takes a lot. So if I know I'm scared that that shit might stop me, I check on my friends.

59:57Because that is it. You know, that's it to me. You know, thank God, God. That's right. Gave me the strength and I'm still here and we still working and we still doing what we got to do. And I'm not going to lie to you. I'm happy. I'm not depressed. you know I'd rather my parents not suffer than suffer you know it might be a cliche but you know if your parents is there suffering you know what I'm saying you'd rather them not suffer but that's beautiful that's hard because I wrote a record to my mom's she was fully alive and I was crying the whole time you know what I'm saying because you think about how your mom sacrificed for you but you know I know it was father's day I know me and you we got some brown socks and some turkey bacon.

1:00:41Fathers never get nothing for Father's Day. But there's nothing like a mother. I don't know about you. I don't know. I didn't think I could carry a baby for nine months. Carry a baby for nine months? Give a baby organs? You know how hard that... Have you ever... I don't think us men have really... I see some of my friends, they running through nine kids in a row like they got home working. Like, and I'm just like, this shit is crazy out here. Like, you cannot compare a mother to a father. Just my opinion. And I have a great father. Rest in peace. I had a great father, right? He was with us. Never abandoned us.

1:01:29My mom's caught cancer. He never left my mom's. He raised my son Joey. You know, I got too much to be grateful for. But But, you know, the mom dukes is it. So I get it. Yeah, for sure.

1:01:43Malice:For sure. I'm with you. The train is coming, baby. The train is coming now. Yeah. Make sure y 'all download, stream, however you get the album and your albums. Let God sort them out. This is real music. Arguably the album of the year. And I only heard two songs. Easily. You know what I mean? These my brothers right here. They stand for what I stand for. We represent the same thing. And we appreciate them on the Joe and Jay, the show makes some noise for the clips. Thanks for having us. Royalty, baby. Thanks for having us. Royalty on the couch. And let me tell you something. Y 'all are our first rap guests.

1:02:27Oh, man. Y 'all set the ball off. Y 'all set the ball off. Y 'all set the ball off. Y 'all set the ball off. Yo, they don't work. Yo, they don't disrespect it. Nobody else, but this is the boss. They keep coming. I'm going to tell you something, and I'm not going to say your name. You can't have Joe Smoke. Hold up, hold up. Yo, say that. No, they keep coming. Like, yo, such and such want to be on the show. Such and such want to be on the show. Such and such want to be on the show. We have to have some corned off in the show. Jay is like, if they're not. He's like, if they're not royalty. Everybody have to be sitting on this couch.

1:02:59I only want dudes like y 'all in our presence, man. That's what's up. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah.

1:03:06Malice:you earned and you've earned that right to have that opinion appreciate it that's it that's it man we love you guys man come on man love y 'all man love y 'all straight up we love watching it we love seeing y 'all that's just the truth and y 'all they the first on the Joe and Jaden show that's it exclusive let's get it the volume

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