Common on Fat Joe SAVING HIS LIFE in Ice Cube beef, Chicago hip hop & Jennifer Hudson

30 Oct 2025 · 59 min · 28 chapters

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In short

Common and Fat Joe discuss Chicago hip-hop roots, integrity in rap, and the personal meaning of “seeking the kingdom,” plus Common’s transition into acting and voice work. They also recount how Fat Joe intervened to help prevent violence during the Ice Cube/Mac-10 beef, and how Common and Jennifer Hudson’s relationship is shaped by faith and adversity.

Guests (backgrounds)

  • Common: Chicago South Side rapper, Oscar-winning actor, and voice actor; grew up around Stone/Black Stones/Four Corner Hustlers/Vice Lords; started investing in property early (inspired by his mother).
  • Fat Joe: Bronx rapper/producer (Relativity Records era, Terror Squad/Atlantic later), known for “Fat Joe the Gangsta.”
  • Jada Kiss: Co-host/rapper (The Joe and Jada Show).
  • Jennifer Hudson: Oscar-winning singer/actor; discussed as Common’s partner and as someone who overcame major hardship.

Key claims

  • Fat Joe says Common’s integrity and support helped him “save” a life during the Ice Cube/Mac-10 conflict.
  • Common says God-first guidance (“seek the kingdom”) drives his relationship and career choices.
  • Common argues positivity doesn’t have to be preachy; balance matters.

Notable examples

  • Relativity Records vs Bone Thugs video budget (Common cites it as a turning point to leave).
  • Common’s “I Used to Love Her” origin as a metaphor for hip-hop as a woman; later influence on Brown Sugar (via “Love of My Life”).
  • Common’s acting “train” after feeling a ceiling in music; mentions John Wick and basketball-themed film work.

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Chapters

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Guest Introduction and Heartfelt Gratitude

0:31 to 0:54

Introduction of Fat Joe and Jada Kiss, expressing appreciation for their friendship.

“Reese Witherspoon here, checking into my favorite hotel in Paris.”

Guest Introduction and Heartfelt Gratitude

1:55 to 2:45

Introduction of Fat Joe and Jada Kiss, expressing appreciation for their friendship.

“with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze.”

Guest Introduction and Heartfelt Gratitude

2:52 to 4:16

Introduction of Fat Joe and Jada Kiss, expressing appreciation for their friendship.

“Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?”

Guest Introduction and Heartfelt Gratitude

4:23 to 5:38

Introduction of Fat Joe and Jada Kiss, expressing appreciation for their friendship.

“And you get just what we tell you you're going to get.”

Fat Joe's Life-Saving Moment

5:38 to 10:49

Fat Joe recounts a pivotal moment when Jada Kiss helped him during a tense situation.

“When you think of the south side of Chicago.”

Reflections on Loyalty and Conflict

10:49 to 14:00

Discussion on the importance of loyalty and navigating conflicts in the hip hop scene.

“My homie already, because they already, like you said, they already wanted a piece of me no matter what.”

Discussion on Relationships and Authenticity

14:00 to 16:43

The hosts discuss the importance of authenticity and integrity in relationships.

“She's the most decent girl in the world.”

Prioritizing Spirituality in Relationships

16:44 to 18:05

A conversation on the role of spirituality and seeking God in maintaining healthy relationships.

“I guess nice guys do this sometimes how you know when it ain't working how you know when it ain't working I ain't talking to Dr.”

Adversity and Resilience in Life

18:06 to 19:20

Exploring how overcoming adversity shapes character and relationships, particularly regarding Jennifer Hudson.

“And then her, you know, she had it the toughest.”

Growing Up in Chicago's Gang Culture

19:21 to 21:43

Insights into the challenges of growing up in Chicago amidst gang culture and the impacts on personal development.

“what was the South Side of Chicago like early 90s, 80s and 90s?”
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Investing in Property and Financial Wisdom

21:44 to 24:12

A discussion on the importance of investing in property and financial planning based on personal experiences.

“This is when Chicago, it wasn't even a downtown.”

The Evolution of Music and Positive Messages

24:13 to 27:22

Exploring the evolution of music and the balance between positive messaging and authenticity in hip hop.

“How does it feel to win every goddamn award?”

The Impact of Hip Hop on Personal Identity

27:23 to 28:00

Reflecting on how hip hop has influenced personal identity and awareness of broader social issues.

“You know, like, you was doing the goodness out there, to be honest.”

The Impact of Hip-Hop on Personal Growth

28:00 to 32:00

Exploration of how hip-hop influenced personal identity and learning.

“That shit was like a fucking rose blooming.”

The Impact of Hip-Hop on Personal Growth

32:10 to 33:00

Exploration of how hip-hop influenced personal identity and learning.

“You can bet NBA games any night on the app and if you think you know the future script for this season, lock in your future bets.”

The Impact of Hip-Hop on Personal Growth

34:20 to 36:14

Exploration of how hip-hop influenced personal identity and learning.

“I'm the host of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.”

The Impact of Hip-Hop on Personal Growth

36:21 to 37:45

Exploration of how hip-hop influenced personal identity and learning.

“Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?”

Turning Points in the Music Career

38:26 to 42:00

Discussion about pivotal moments in the music career and the importance of following one's truth.

“I say it when I do motivational speaking.”

Common's Journey into Acting

42:00 to 44:34

Learn about Common's transition from music to acting and his experiences on set.

“where I was just like, man, I'm trying to blossom and do something else.”

The Creation of 'I Used to Love H.E.R.'

44:34 to 47:20

Discover the story behind the iconic song 'I Used to Love H.E.R.' and its metaphorical depth.

“But it was like, bro, a lot of people don't know.”

Impact of 'I Used to Love H.E.R.' and Brown Sugar

47:20 to 49:52

Explore the influence of 'I Used to Love H.E.R.' on the film 'Brown Sugar' and hip-hop culture.

“When you came in here, I know how much you love Illmatic.”

Fat Joe's Acting Aspirations and Missed Opportunities

49:52 to 56:00

Hear Fat Joe reflect on his near roles in films and the pressures of early fame.

“It turned into It turned into cost you more.”

Discussion on Rappers Turned Actors

56:00 to 57:30

Explore the top rappers who made a successful transition into acting.

“And my man Tim Robbins is starring in it.”

Common's Acting Journey

57:30 to 58:34

Common shares his journey from musician to actor, including his first movie experience.

“And then like, man, that was my first callback.”

Creating the NBA Theme Song

58:34 to 1:01:10

Common discusses the process of creating the NBA theme song for Amazon Prime.

“You just got the theme for Prime, for the NBA.”

Chicago's Influence in Music

1:01:10 to 1:03:22

The hosts reflect on Chicago's significant impact on hip-hop and music culture.

“and we still like, yo, you know, like, you know, so, man, we, man.”

Common's Hair Care Brand

1:03:22 to 1:09:42

Common talks about his hair care brand and the importance of catering to diverse needs.

“For them people to let you be a part of that collectively with the other guys and the people playing the instruments is a win for us.”

Common's Hair Care Brand

1:09:45 to 1:11:06

Common talks about his hair care brand and the importance of catering to diverse needs.

“ZepBound Terzepatide may be able to help.”
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4:35Yo, that man really saved my life.

4:52Yeah, yeah, what up, y 'all? This is Fat Joe the Gangsta. It's your boy Jada Kiss. You know what it is. The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Pow. Every show iconic. And you get just what we tell you you're going to get. Today's guest, you think of hip hop. And you think of bars. Speak on it, dawg. You think of a strong black man. When you think of morals, principles. When you think of craftsmanship. When you think of transitioning to becoming a very great actor. One of the best. On screen and a voice actor. When you think of the south side of Chicago. That's right, Shot Town. What's good?

5:42Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for our brother Kami.

5:49My intros is getting better and better, my brother. Better and better. Peace, brother. That intro, man, that was, man, that spoke to my heart, bro. To be honest, man, I never heard nobody intro me like that, saying a man of integrity like that. So I want to say give thanks, brother. My brother. Joe, I'm glad to see you. That you are, man. That you are, though. I'm glad to see yourself. Do the real deal, bro. Thank you, brother. First of all, in this show, I don't know if you've been watching, but I count people's pockets. Yeah. Wow. Flag off the... Off the brick. Flag off the brick. I'm ready.

6:26I still... Nah. I need history. Nah. 1993. I'm in Cabrini Green projects. Well, people don't know. Okay? You want to throw your flag back and don't throw one. Because I'm going to tell you some real shit. Okay? Let me tell you. All right. I'll leave it there after the story. I start at Relativity Records, me, Common, and the Beat Nuts. And Chi Ali. The first artist signed. He signed 1991. That's cool. He's before me, but we on the same label. So you know how you was seeing Biggie in one studio and this? Me and him, we started together. Yeah. Like literally infancy. Point blank. You like you the second person that I've known in this whole industry.

7:15Well, the beatness was the first. That's right. Shout out Juju. Juju. That's dope. V.I.C. Let's make some noise for that. Like, yo, you the second. Yo. Yo, but so you don't know how proud it makes me that there's kids that don't even know you rap. And I just see you in movies and see you doing things. And I just be sitting back like, wow. And then I tell guys like him that I started with you. He throws a flag and tells me I'm capping. And I'm like, no, I really know him. We really grew up together. The flag came from saying, I don't know if you know whether or not on this show. I pocket watch.

7:54I watch pocket watch. No, no, but I'm trying to say. That's just another flag. Yo. Hey, Joe, but this is the thing. It's two moments in my life, in my career that I can cite you for. I just want to say thank you, bro. It's like, you don't know what it meant to me. One was, you put me in a video, in your video. Huston is the key to success. Huston is the key to success. Me, you, Nas. Me, Nas. Man, like. You know, pictures come out like once a year. I see them pictures. It's like, it's going to be here forever. I love that, man. We was kids in the, but you pulled up to the Bronx. That meant something, though.

8:28That meant something because. Let him give you your flowers. Coming from Chicago, man, one of the things we wanted was just to be heard by New York. And for you to be like, yo, come on. Even though we was on the same label, if you thought I was on some weak shit, you'd have been like, ah. Take the flag back off that. Thank you, beloved. Thank you. We get the flag back. It's the beloved of all beloveds. I'm going to tell you some shit. Hit me in the second one. What's the second one? Well, the second one we done talked about a lot. Man, you practically saved my life. Oh, get the other flag. Take the other flag.

9:06I'm afraid the flag up. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, Jay, Jay. He got his flag back. Yo, that man really saved my life. Like, I was out on the West Coast with my guy, one of my guys I knew through one of my close homies, but he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation, the whole Ice Cube, Mac-10 beef that we had. Told him we had squashed it. We doing it. We sitting there doing a commercial. This was the most money I was getting paid ever for something at that point in time. So we at peace. We like, yo, things is good. My God, he from Chicago. He just couldn't hold it. He couldn't hold it.

9:44So he started ruffling shit. And man, it just got a little heated. And I want to say that it's not because Fat Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally begged for your life. I literally got in the middle and was like, please, he's my friend. And he's my brother. You know, some people take things personal. And they finally saw him. And he was on there, saw you, and they was talking crazy. And I was like, no way. This guy, I said, this is literally my brother. And I was begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please, this is my brother. Joe, you know, we've been waiting to catch this guy.

10:29I said, listen, I can't. I just couldn't do it. And basically, I stood in the middle like, please, guys. Like, I cannot do it. But they settled. It was over after that day, right? It was over after that day. But you settled that. I'm like, man, we in California. Don't start nothing. My homie already, because they already, like you said, they already wanted a piece of me no matter what. What? So my guy out there, he's just going off. And anyway, I knew Joe. I ain't even hear that, but I know everything he did. Oh, no. He did. I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen. And because he had a, you know, a relationship.

11:10Super relationship. Still my brother. Shout out to that. Yeah, shout out to all the brothers. Shout out to Inglewood. Yeah, Inglewood. That's my family. Inglewood family was good. That's when Fat Joe the Gangster, I was like, this nigga here is this. Because he straight up was like, you can't do that to my man. It was like one of the movies we used to talk about good fellas. Good fellas. It was like good fellas. You can't get him. Hey, once again, I begged him. I was in their mercy, and I was just like, please, this is my brother. This is my family. I did that one time for Rich Plame, my best friend.

11:42One time they was about to do it, and not saying Rich and him ain't real deal. But he was getting into it with a seven-headed monster, a guy who just kills. He's in jail for too many bodies. Right. And I had to jump in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, I can't. It's like, yo, fat boy, get out the way. I was like, oh, no, I can't. This is my family. I can't. I knew what it meant. They real deal. And this other guy's, you know, a Jeffrey Dahmer. And I'm a monster. And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please. Let me get in. I said, no. Not to knock him dead, Ed. Knock him dead. Y 'all had a yad up there.

12:24But they go. The man go, because it's the first argument I ever had with him, right? He goes the next day to Rich and they had blocked on Cypress and says, if Joe got in the middle, that means you're good guys. Let's become friends. And they wind up being best friends. My man's still in jail 37 years. But he went the next day, he took it on himself and said, if Fat Joe threw himself in the middle trying to squash it, these guys gotta be good guys and it was all over staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls they kill each other over girls these gangsters a lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls I'm telling you I had a guy, this guy was a maniac he's still in jail too, 40 years right?

13:14he was mean scared straight a lot of wars have come over women. Most of them. Yo, but listen, this guy, all I'm going to say to you is this was a mass murder. He's still in jail, 40 years. He would come to the club and he'd go, he's Puerto Rican. He'd be like, aye. And I'd be like, yo, aye. The nana. He's talking about his wife was bad as shit to her. She was fucking dudes. Like, she was loose. So he'd come, aye, nana. you know Jimbo from the barber shop? Yeah, he was with the net. Everybody of his 10 guys, no, no, no, no, no. Not Jimbo. He didn't know. Yes, with the net. Jimbo won't be around in two more days.

14:04Like, he would come all in. One time I argued with the nigga. I was like, I said, no. I don't want to hear that shit. You're a fucking liar. She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't do it. Yes, the nana. And everybody knew what that was. Somebody was disappearing over the nana. No, I know maniacs like that, man, but you know, Common Man, you're the beloved of all beloved. Let's keep it in peace. Hey, man, I got my palo santa, man. Hey, I said, you know, I said smoking all the time. What's that, like smoking sage or something? It was supposed to protect us from that story. It's similar to say it's Palo Santo.

14:47It's Palo Santo. You know, it comes from the trees down in Chile. Bring in the good energy. Bring in the good energy. Move negative energy. You know, you guys, I know you in a serious relationship, correct? Right now? Yes, sir. But you guys, you nice guys, you always got the baddest chicks because they think you nice guys. You know, scumbag's a scumbag. You come with a smile. they told us he's the beloved of all beloveds what a nice guy the beloved of all beloveds and you palo santo you know you know this shit he got that he got that new shit out there on the streets boy hey man yo you know I gotta say you know like at the end of the day you know I've definitely dated some some beautiful women amazing women but I think you know it was like They respected me as a man.

15:45They knew I was coming as a man. I had the love, but I'm a man too. It's like I'm going to lead the way I lead. And I was giving them that, you know, that realness, man. I'm authentic, man. I'm true, bro. I don't be trying to, like, I ain't going to act like nothing for nobody at this point, obviously. But then even at that moment. But you just say you always, you never been like a bullshitter. You always been a straight shooter. and the strength. Like, and nobody I've been with, like, none of the women that I, like, have relationships with gonna be like, damn, that nigga just did me bogus. Foul.

16:20Like, I had the integrity. I mean, I'm a man. I did, you know, some things wrong. You know, but I'm saying it ain't been bogus where it's just like, I ain't been out there like bogus. And, you know, I'm the type that, man, if it ain't working, I'm gonna say it ain't working. I ain't gonna keep you going like forever because you got a life. I got a life we want to live happy so yeah man I just I mean that's I guess nice guys do this sometimes how you know when it ain't working how you know when it ain't working I ain't talking to Dr. Finn what you want me to do yo Jada we ain't talking real life shit we trying to help somebody's in the struggle right now somebody watching this shit they don't know whether they want to be together or not maybe he can give us some knowledge and maybe it's time to move on or stay strong yeah I mean Seek the kingdom.

17:10Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom and all she'll be added. You got to seek the kingdom. No, man, listen. Man, Jada just said it, man. I'll be like, man, I try to listen to God most and foremost all. Like, that's in everything I do. And especially the most important things in life, whether it's, like, career, my purpose, a relationship. Shoot, dealing with my family. Dealing with how I'm going to go speak on something. And like, if I get an opportunity to speak to people, man, I'm always going seeking the kingdom first. So I think in a relationship, it's important that, man, the reason why I feel happy and great in a relationship with Jennifer is, man, God is first.

17:54And we just building from there. We're not perfect human beings, but we communicate and we're growing. We like just trying to be the best children of the most high and still have fun, too. Like you could be godly. I know you ready with your intellectual questions, but let's go back to Jennifer. The reason why I love her so much, besides her being so talented, but the hard things she's been through in life and to see her just keep her chin up and walk through the fire and still be strong and still be, you know, that's what I respect about humans the most is the adversity you have to overcome in the tough times and all that.

18:33And then her, you know, she had it the toughest. Man, I mean, I don't know if it get no tougher than what she experienced. No, I don't get no tougher. It don't get no tougher than what she experienced. I never been able to tell her that because, you know, I sit next to her in all the games and all that. And, you know, we always have it fun when I see her. But, you know, she's like, you know, she's a G. She would appreciate that, man. And I got to say, that's one of the things that I was like, man, how this person still got light. Wow. Light after all. Like, lose. losing dealing with what she dealt with.

19:05I'm like, for her to have light and be good to people and like just still be bright about life, man, that's a different type of warrior. That's a different type of strong. Yeah, but yeah, that's what it is. I mean, I ain't the relationship expert. I want to know what was the South Side of Chicago like early 90s, 80s and 90s? Man, Chicago, a lot of our people are from the South, so we got something that's rooted in the South, but it's really Chicago as a city, so we got that movement of a city and the slickness and the culture. But growing up, it was like I experienced everything from black church to liquor stores, gangbanging cultures.

19:47No matter, I don't care how smart you are, whatever, you're going to be around gangbanging culture. We hooped. There's just nowhere around it. It's the one city, well, LA too, because I seen grandmothers in all red cars with red seats, with red tires. Principals in schools coming in red suits and blue suits. You know, speaking of Mac 10 and them, I'm out there shooting a movie with them. I'm thicker than water. And grandmothers is all red. And principals in schools is coming, and the cops is throwing this shit out. I'm like, it's like that in Chicago where everyone is pretty much, how did you escape?

20:29I grew up with around Stone, Black Stones, Four Corner Hustlers, and Vice Lords. And that's who I was with. And man, that's what it is. I mean, I don't mean I have like friends that was folks or whatever, but overall, I guess I escaped it because I started feeling like I had something to live for. So I wasn't going too deep into that, but me and my guys, that's how we had to make it to a certain degree. But just like we know the stories from, I don't care if, you know, it's the BX. I don't care if it's Yonkers, if it's Atlanta, if it's, you know, LA. When people start seeing you doing something, they support you.

21:09Like you coming from the hood, they like, man, especially doing something good, they kind of wrap their arms around you and be like, we ain't going to let nobody get to this cat. So, I mean, that was part of it. And then, man, blessings, man. Like what you just talked about, I could have not been here. I've been around stuff and I could have not been here, but you know, that's about it most times. Now back to the first flag he threw at me. The reason why I said counting pockets. Right. I meet you 90, 92, 93, and I go to Chicago with you. Right? Yeah. And we're sitting down. This is when Chicago, it wasn't even a downtown.

21:46It was just the real Chicago, the good times Chicago. And I remember sitting out there with you and you was like, yo, I'm buying all the properties. and you was telling me your grandfather had properties and he taught you how to buy properties and why I counted your money because I said this man, I'm just buying a chain, a car a hooptie and you was buying properties at that time. Yeah. But man, really it was my mother who was really the, like, my father used to say to me, get the land, get the land. I ain't grow up with my father but when he would say certain things They'll be like, get the land, man.

22:27They can't take the land from me. But my mother was like, as soon as I started, like, first album, I ain't really make no money. I'm trying to, you know, survive, right? None of us, right? Oh, yeah. Maybe I'll mention it. None of us. Nobody make it. Only a fair handful out of them. They went and bought a kilo with their advance. The fucking lots. You're talking a good story. All right. I'm just trying to let you know. They had a side hustle while rapping. I mean, hey, that's what it was. We wouldn't make it, but. My second album, my mother saw that I was like getting somewhere, like just more than more than what, you know, like I had before.

23:04And just she, you know, she was like, man, you don't know how long this go last. Man, you should invest in some property. And I was like, man, that's good. I started doing it. And then she was she was she was the one that schooled me. And then I got a friend named Mo who got into real estate, who started breaking it down even more. so that's when I really started getting into properties and seeing the value I mean I really honestly wish early on I was up on like investing in cause I got all on the health shit early like the healthy like all that I was part of who should have got down with us we would have been we would have been franchising we would have been franchising I came to the opening of y 'all in Brooklyn yo you know what I'ma do I'ma start smoking this briscato thing what's the shit just say you don't smoke but you always had a time I don't smoke, but this shit, look, I'm going to have to buy some of that stock.

23:56What's it called? Palo Santo. Palo Santo. Because you always ahead of the curve on everything. That Palo Santo going to make some money. Yeah, for sure. We got to invest. I'm going to come out with my own Palo Santo. Palo Santo. My own version. You know, I'll be on some wellness, man. That's why we looking young, huh? Where you going to source it? Yeah, maybe Chile. It's got to come from South America. Yeah. It's going to be the good one. It's going to be the good one. Yeah, because I got too many. Now, fast forward. How does it feel to win every goddamn award? And I feel good whenever I see you win.

24:35Thank you. Because I know what you stand for, what you represent, where you come from. When they let one of us in, and you just dominate the way you've been doing. It makes me feel good. Man, I love that because... It's a win for us. Right, it's a win. Like, let me tell you, when I'm up there, I feel like I'm representing us because we all, we all the tribe, man. Like, we know where we've come from. We know what we do. We've been through it together. We ain't got to see each other all the time to know we just, we from, we just the tribe, bro. We love each other. So when I'm out there, man, I ain't going to front.

25:11When I was on that Oscar stage, I felt like I was representing. I was representing God, black men, brown men, black people, Like hip hop, Chicago. It was a lot that I felt like, yo, this is why I'm up here. And my ancestors, I felt all of that. And I'm like, I'm so grateful that you feel that way. Because I'm like, man, when I see y 'all, I came in and said, man, I'm proud of y 'all, man. This is like, what y 'all doing, man, this is like, it offers so much to people. People who like need it. We need it. We need the fun. We need the joy. We need the wisdom. We need to come in like in an authentic way.

25:52So to see us, us, like just, man, that was 93, 92, bro. 93, 93. Bro, so to see us like finding ways and real ways to actually impact life and culture and be doing great things and taking care of our loved ones and families and, you know, y 'all remember, you know, the same way. I feel like we all want. No, I'm going to tell you crazy thing. I wrote my first ever positive song. Now, you don't remember this. I'm gangster fat Joe. I smack your baby at the Christian and I'm talking all this crazy shit. I made one positive song and I went to you. I seek the kingdom. Never forget. I played it for you.

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26:37I felt like, yo, Com is going to love this shit. It's a positive song. I played it for you. He was like, that's dope. Joe, what the rest of the album sound Like, you wanted that raw shit from Fast Joe. I came with the least black man, this, that, Farrakhan, formed a million, man. And he was like, yo, Joe, what's up with the rest of the album? I was like, yeah, yeah, the album is hard. But I came to you with the positive joint. Like, I thought Comet was going to be like, yes. Nah, he want that Joe crack, fat gangster shit. Nah, nah. But, you know, it was, at the end of the day, you was showing the evolution.

27:15but sometimes it's like, you know, we all climb and go our way. We grow in our own ways when it's time. I mean, for me, it's like positivity ain't got to be like, oh, preachy, man. I don't like that. I don't like that in movies. I don't like it in music. I don't like it in church. I don't like the judgment. I don't like it's self-righteous. I don't like, man, I'm conscious now. You know, like, you was doing the goodness out there, to be honest. Even, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, bringing people on, that in itself. But I feel like, you know, I kind of remember when you played that joint, but I wasn't in that joint.

27:57But you know what happened is, you know, somebody like KS-1 who had the machine gun in the cover. Yeah. And we think he's coming again. He's airplanes. Overseas people dying. Politics is lying. I'm trying not to escape. That shit was like a fucking rose blooming. I remember I hopped the train. I had the Walkman. And I played that shit. And then it was like airplanes flying overseas. People dying. Politicians lying. I'm trying. It was like a rose. I was like, yo, what the fuck is this? Yo, man, K.L.R.S. K.L.R.S. 1 and hip-hop in itself at that time, too, man taught me so much about who I am as a person.

28:43It's stuff I ain't know. Like I ain't know like even what he was just talking about or just certain things about Africa that I was... Oh, Benjamin Bannica. Man, why is that? Why is that? Why is that? He was going crazy. Even to be able to break down the books of the Bible. Abraham was the father of Isaac. Isaac was the father of Jacob. Jacob had 12 sons. for real. The knees were the children of Israel. I'm like, man, to get us to be singing that and rapping that, like, man, that dude just elevated us all, man. Hip-hop did at that time. The teacher. The teacher, man. The teacher. And he made it sound, but that's what I'm talking about.

29:24Like, he made that joint sound good. Like, I had to get to that. I had, it was a point where in my music and career, where I felt like I was getting stuff and I wanted to spread the word, but it was, It was too, like, self-righteous. It was too, like, you know, you got to find a balance. Life is a balance. So it's like... You know, me growing up, he was my hero, my idol. He still is. But Kairos One was God in the Bronx, right? And then Fat Joe... Yes. ...became the new, like, you know, the Don. We going double platinum. We on fire. I used to walk the streets with Kairos One. and everybody, teacher, teacher, look at me like, you know, we have attitudes.

30:11And I asked him one day, I said, yo, Chris, how come everybody comes up to you smiling with the teacher, teacher, then look at you? He said, that's easy. I rap about positivity and unity. You rap around gangster shit. They going to make you prove you a gangster every time I hear. Me, they just smile. I pose no threat. Yeah. I was like wow that shit was so deep for me at the time where it was like yo he's like yo they look at me like this is the unified they look at you like yo you still fat Joe the Gangsta out here so dude that's what we went right back to the studio and killed some more people that's a fact more babies than Christian than Christian but that's when for me I knew like okay man I wasn't selling a lot of records Joe you know I remember walking into Relativity Records and it was I tell people this story.

31:04It was Bone Thugs at Harmony, Fat Joe. I don't know if the Rough House Riders were performing. Fat Joe has sold maybe$20 ,000 this week. Bone Thugs has sold$40 ,000 this week. I sold$5 ,000. So it was like that board let me know the priority of the label and what was going to be put into my career. Yeah. So I knew that, man, I got to go on my truth no matter what and state who I am. Because record sales wasn't it for me, like, to be honest. I mean, I did have some great ones at times, but some good ones. But overall, it was like, man, my integrity of what you're saying, like, just putting positivity out there, putting creativity out there, putting that light out there is what, to the end of the day, some people ask me, man, why are you still doing it?

31:59That's why I'm doing it. to the action. Yeah, the passion. Well.

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38:25I'm going to try to speed this story, but it's just too relevant. And it's a very motivational story. I say it when I do motivational speaking. We at Relativity, it's me, you, the beat nuts, Chiali. and they shooting$5 ,000 videos for us. Right? But we think relativity ain't look fancy or nothing. We think we on the come up. Yeah. And they run in. Alan Grumblatt runs in with a video. He says, yo, I want to show you. I want to show you. There's a group I just signed, a group I just signed. And he puts it in. And this Bone Thug's in harmony floating in the air. This is just, and I said, yo, Alan, this looks like a million dollar video.

39:08Yo, he turned around and said, it is a million dollar video. We spent a million dollars on this. At that moment, I knew they didn't believe in me like they believed in Bone Thugs because it takes money to make money. So I turned around and told everybody, yo, we got to go. And I remember some rappers just like, yo, Joe, we got chains. We got cars, apartment. I was like, yo, they don't believe in us. They just spent a million dollars. And at that moment, that's when I left Relativity. It was scary because I did have a chain of car apartment in Thrasnick. And I just went. And no longer than six months later, I signed Terror Squad Records with Atlantic.

39:50They gave me a million something dollars. Right. I only had$2 ,000 in my bank account with a gold chain and a car. That relativity. But I say in everybody's life, whether you're a beautician, you're a farmer, or you, whatever it is, I feel like there's this invisible train that comes in front of you. It's a train, an opportunity, but it seems so risky, but you got to have faith and believe in yourself and jump on that train. And I jumped on that train. Maybe six months after that, I signed Big Pun. So we was really on a roar. But I remember that happened when they showed me that Bone Thugs video.

40:28And by the way, Bone Thugs, I love y 'all to death. Listen, I miss my Uncle Charles. Yeah. You know I'm fried. My Uncle Charles, too. God bless him. You know I'm fried. I fuck up my own lyrics last week. I called him my list. My Uncle George. Let me tell you. I got to tell you something. Joe Buttons. I see him at the Knick game last night. He asked me one-on-one on the side. He said, your joke. Say the truth. You really thought it was Uncle George? you really thought it was Uncle George and you was trolling I was like yo I'm fucked I'm fine man I really said Uncle I really thought it said Uncle George it was Uncle Charles I get my own lyrics fucked up I know they put me on the spot like when you do TV shows they'll be like alright you gotta go and it's just a TV chat I'll be like oh my god my own songs rehearsing but that train I hear you on that train like that Visible Train.

41:29Yeah, Visible Train. For me, that's what acting became for me. Like, acting was like... The action, the transition. Yeah, Jay, it was like, I hit a ceiling with music for a minute, like, where I was like, man, what am I going to do? Like, because I was, like, driving to do some super artsy shit, and I'm like, man, these niggas eating my... I released this album called Electric Circus. It was out there. In fact, Primo, I went on tour with Gangstar, and he was like, man, I ain't like this album, too. We started performing, so I saw you performing. and I understand it more. But it was like one of those things where I was just like, man, I'm trying to blossom and do something else.

42:05And then I was trying different things. Man, I went to acting class and then, man, that was that train for me, that invisible trainer. Like, man, I love this. It's something I can work at, the craft. I can do this. Because I wanted to do it when I was younger. I was in the play when I was younger and my mother, I was in the play and after I finished the play, my mother kept talking about how good Derek, my homie, was in the play. Oh, he was good. He was good. Derek was amazing. Derek is my brother. Derek is my God, man. That's day one. So, Jay, I was like, I was like. I wasn't no good. Yeah, I wasn't no good.

42:41Like, what's up? So then, anyway, fast forward, when I got the opportunity to go to acting class, I was like, man, this is it for me. I love acting as much as I love music. I mean, music hit me in a different place, but I love acting just as much. You know what I mean? It comes across the screen, bro. This shit is great. You know, I like gangster flicks. I'm going to skip a bunch of shit. Jada going to get mad at me, but John fucking Wick. They told you the day you was in John Wick, you knew that shit was going to be ill, right? You was like, yo, I'm going to be on John Wick. Yo, but what's crazy though is, you know, I was in John Wick too, so.

43:21Where did I film it? We filmed it in New York and then in Italy. I thought it was in like Europe. It was like, yeah, we was in Italy for some... You passed them. Y 'all bumped into each other. I said, oh, shit. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Yo, I love, man, the people that checked out John Wick, man, that blow my mind, man. I be getting in cars. Like you said, some people don't know I rap. I get in the Uber to do like, yo, I know you from somewhere. I know you from... One thing they don't know is the common sense. No, they definitely don't know that. Yo, my daughter looks at me like I'm a dinosaur.

43:58I be like, yo, common sense. She be like, his name is Common, Dad. Like, I said, no, that's common sense. No, Dad. You sound like a dinosaur, Dad. You sound like a dinosaur. I'm like, yo, that's common sense. Yo, man, they don't know what's up. Yo, I was surprised. I just did this whole campaign with BMW, and they was like, man, we want the campaign to be a b - saying it's common sense. I was like, how y 'all know? How y 'all know about that? There's somebody in there that knew. New, yeah. That knew. That's what the campaign is. It's common sense. I said, damn, I'm a dude this week. We made it fly, too.

44:34But it was like, bro, a lot of people don't know. I be in cars. I like to ride in the car sometimes, just riding around. So I was in there. The car was in Boston. This driver, this young dude, he was like, I put in my music and start playing, I'm rapping and stuff. He was like, Carmen, I ain't know you rap. I was like, yeah. I had that argument. I've had that argument about you. That means you're a great actor, though. Man, I'm grateful for that. They see you in that space, and it overpowered this space that they ain't know about. We got to go to I Used to Love Her. Okay. Right? You knew that was like a lean back.

45:12When you finished that bit, you was like, oh, I knocked this shit out the park. Like, what was making, I used to love it. Where did that come from? What was the inception of that idea? Because to this day, I mean, we did it in so many. Big L did the Ebonics, the this. Everybody did some version of it. Yeah. But that was like the epitome. Man, whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit, bro, I was geek. I just know no idea. Made this dope beat. He was dope. He accepted George Benson. Shout out to N.O.I.D., bro. He fucking killed that. Yo, I was sitting at home. My homies had just left the crib.

45:55And I was staying with my guy, Rahsaan. We had a crib together, like an apartment. And, man, I was sitting up. It was 2 in the morning. I just had that beat playing. I was like, man, what if I made hip-hop a woman? And then I just started writing. And it used to take me, I don't know how for y 'all, but sometimes I be taking a while to write. Back in the days, it took a while. Back in the days, you be busting your brain to come up with some shit. Yo, that one started coming to me. And then I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor. Not understanding, but just getting into the metaphor of it and taking it through the whole ride.

46:32And I was like, I ain't going to front. I did feel like, this is something. Halfway through, you was like, yo, this is some shit, right? As that shit started going, you're like, yo. Yo, man. I was like, yo. And then by the time I got to the third verse and was like summing it up and got to who I'm talking about y 'all is hip hop. I was like, man. I knew that it could have something. It could hit somebody. Because when I was in that studio laying it, my guy, Rassan, he was like, I could see him through the booth. I was sitting there rapping. And, you know, we're young. So he's like, yo, what girl you talking about?

47:11Yeah, he's like, why you doing this love song? He didn't want to, you know, he like doing a love song like this. As soon as I said, well, I'm talking about y 'all, it's hip hop. And then he grabbed his head like, oh, shit. You want to know what's crazy is. When you came in here, I know how much you love Illmatic. And so we doing some Illmatic. And similar, I used to love her to Illmatic is over the years, every time I heard, I used to love her, I picked up something new. And I learned something new. and I was just like, yo, this shit gets better. You know, like, it don't matter. You can still, like, right now, we all could have rapped and didn't know the word.

47:51Yeah. The right word, right? Caught a body halfway Houston. What the fuck he meant with caught a body halfway Houston? Head for Houston. Head for Houston. Yeah, caught a body halfway Houston. Oh, caught a body head for Houston. Yeah, catch a body. You know, it's like, so you could keep, like, that's how the level was for me. like every time I heard it I would hear something new and something new and be like oh shit that shit crazy. Yo what hit me too was like man that was the first time I really started like I remember you know back back in those days you would have like people give you a quote for your album Biggie gave me a quote and like I was like damn I'm actually getting respect from you know more and more people but then that movie Brown Sugar came out and Brown Sugar was based on I used to love her and Wow I didn't do that Yeah it was based on I used to love her that writer shout out to him Michael Elliott he had come to me to write something like write some movie stuff with him but I was like a little bit you know I didn't know how to do that We just moving So he ended up writing Brown Sugar boom then me and Erica me and Erica Badu did a song for Brown Sugar which was Love of My Life based on I used to love her Love of My Life which man my friend so I was like it was one of those things that kept evolving in a way like that song it was a seed yeah the seed the seed it keeps growing and you know what's crazy is being that you're saying that I'm just you know I was supposed to be in the movie Shaft I was supposed to be peoples what you know that actors are big big yeah yeah yeah yeah okay yo rest in peace John Singleton he was coming to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe every Friday trying to convince me to be in Shaft but we was too much on that party like a rock star and we was like we ain't give a fuck we young rich rap niggas big punt double platinum we don't give a fuck he's John Singleton was in the trenches he was with me in Washington Heights in fucking bummy apartment house but he had no business being there like yo Joe I got this role you could be peoples because you know what's my man the famous actor he played peoples you see how he was speaking with his Spanish slang yeah he ain't Spanish no no no he from DC Fat Joe was supposed to be peoples bro you turn that road out dumb motherfucker like a dumb motherfucker every time I watched that movie I was supposed to be in glory alright now I believe you now alright what's something that happened to you that you had an opportunity and you was like fuck dad I'm gonna stay in D block I ain't doing that shit but now when you look back you're like damn I should have did that have you had one of them?

50:44you got some of those what? you gotta give us one? the last thing of power the last episode of power last season of Raising Canaan I had to take my wife to the Usher show I told you about that I couldn't get a private it wasn't meant to be it was one of them be sad or be happy. You know how big that Raisin Kalen was? Look at it. Shout out to Frizz. I got another one. I saw you at the Usher show that time. Yeah. Oh, you was there too? Yeah, in Vegas, yeah. You know, you go to Usher, man. He forced you to do the greatest hits. Yeah. Like, I'm over there trying to go. All I want is two free tickets.

51:25Right, that's it. It turned into It turned into cost you more. I know, man. My brother, Fat Joe, the light come like this. Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. You on stage, shit. And you got another word. Then they throw another one, another one. I'm like, shit. Is this a fat joke? Mars is making you do a little concert. DJ Mars. My guy. It's an honor. Your bucket, my bucket, you love basketball. Yes, sir. Played in the high school. Was a ball boy for the Chicago Bulls from 11 to 13. MJ years? NBA. Yeah, he seen NBA. He seen Jordan debut, right? Yes, I seen Jordan debut, bro. First come there. First, I got to pitch that for him.

52:05You know, I might be putting him on blast, but I think Khaled was a bull boy for Orlando Magic, too. I never heard him say that before, but. Yo, Shaq. He called Shaq. Yeah, Shaq, Nick Anderson, all that, Dennis Scott. Yeah. Khaled was a bull boy. He played the NBA star in the movie. How the hell was that? How did that fit? Yo, that was, bro. That was a movie. We love basketball. Yeah, we love basketball. I love basketball. Joe, I know you love basketball. You had that fun. basketball was my life bro that was like a dream a dream, two dreams of one a dream inside a dream cause that was my first lead role and then I'm playing a basketball player and then I'm like in the movie I'm playing against D-Wade I'm like damn I'm trying to really do I couldn't do nothing with them though those dudes are strong and then once I was driving you know the scene was like I'm supposed to score over Dwight Howard so for these takes I'm scoring over and then just by the third take he just smacked that shit I'll show you what I really do to this shit I said damn but man that was amazing that was an amazing experience Queen Latifah I gotta give her love man cause she you know the producers was looking at other people and then she was like I think he can do it and the producers really believed him and I had a tough time on that movie cause it was my first lead so at one point man they was thinking about kicking me off because I wasn't getting the scenes right and man it was crucial and then I did this one scene and they ended up being like okay cool and it wasn't even you know it's like the story you hear about I mean I ain't gonna put myself on that level but the story you hear about Al Pacino and Godfather you know how no I ain't hear it break that deal Al Pacino from the Bronx Al Pacino he from the Bronx that's right that man is he you that everybody's from the Bronx Yo, that man is me.

54:03But listen, we can't hear this. We can't hear this. So Al Pacino, while they was filming The Godfather, the studio wasn't really happy with his work. They was like, this dude ain't delivering. So that's Michael. That's Michael. So the director, he decided to move that scene up where he first shoot them dudes with a gun is in the bathroom. Oh, yeah, the cop. Yeah, the cop. 38 in the bathroom. He moved that scene up. because, you know, they were watching, you know, when you're filming a movie, you get to watch what they call dailies. You're watching what y 'all shoot every day. So he said, I got to move this scene up so they can see how cold this dude is.

54:41And they see they move that scene up. They said, make sure you throw the gun. Yo, that's it. The men's on them, they told them, throw the gun. Wipe it down, throw the gun. He threw the gun. Yo, just the tension when he's sitting there, when he's sitting there with them, the tension right there. They're like, man, Al Pacino, man, shout out. They beat him up. He's in shit. He had the, his shit was broken, Jordan. He sat down. Yeah, I understand this, that. Went in the bathroom, killed him. But I got to tell you something about Queen Latifah. Queen Latifah's in the studio with Cool Andre one day.

55:14I'm hanging out with her. She looks at me for no reason and says, well, you think you fucking tough? She pulls the knife out. You got the, she chased me around the studio with a knife. Come here, motherfucker. you ain't that tough. She had one of those, you ain't that tough, motherfucker. She start chasing me around the studio. I say, yo, Latifah, please, Queen. Please, she don't play that shit. No, she... She chasing me. She's the truth, bro. She got an I chase fat Joe out the studio story. I'm telling you. She did it in real life. Say the flip that, she's like... They say it's the Puerto Ricans.

55:53Everybody got a knife in New York. Hawk. You got to keep the all going. What new projects you got coming? I'm working on this TV series for Apple. It's called Silo. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've seen that. Yeah, check that out. Silo deep, right? Yeah, it's fresh, man. It's really fresh. And my man Tim Robbins is starring in it. Tim Robbins from Shawshank Redemption. And I liked Mr. Mr. River and this woman, Rebecca Ferguson. Some dope-ass actors in it. Dope actors. And the story is mean. It's dope. What's your top five rappers turn actors? That's a question. That's a great question. Will Smith got a Will Smith.

56:36Queen Latifah. Most Death. That man was mean. 16 blocks. Yo, he'll quit rap, he'll quit acting. I don't know where Most Death is. Let's go even in Barcelona and chill and shout out to Yassin. Shout out to Yassi. I love Yassi. That man is, he is one of the favorite. That's three. Let's go. Okay, I got you. I have Queen Latifah. Most dead. I'm going to go Ice Cube. That's four. And then, damn. Who else? Who else is out there? Pop. There you go. Thank you. Pac was five. I'm going to go put myself. Tupac was cold. You dead, though. I'm going to put him. You definitely in there. You know, we don't like to, you know, our era don't put ourselves in shit.

57:28But you in there. Smoking Ace was my first movie, man. That's fire. That's the first movie I did, Joe. And then like, man, that was my first callback. You know, I've been auditioning, auditioning. And some of the movies I was going for, they didn't even want to see me because I was a musician. They like, we don't want to hear how we good on that. And in fact, because they had already had Alicia Keys in the movie, the director was like, I don't know if I want to see him, but the cast director was like, check him out. So I did the tape and then they called me back. I was so geeked, man. It was my first callback.

58:03I was flying from doing a show. I landed and went into the audition. Man, I felt it. I was like, yo, I'm about to light this shit up. And I did it. Maybe about a couple, about three weeks later, the director called me like, yo, you got the job. You got the job. I was crying. I called my mother. Then I had to go tell Kanye, like, yo, can't go on this tour, man. I got a movie. And he was like, man, do your thing. Do your dream, brother. Do what you gotta do. I was like, thank you. Appreciate you. That was my first movie, brother. It mean everything to me. You just got the theme for Prime, for the NBA.

58:41Yeah, we saw that. I saw that. Bruh, let me tell you. I saw that. Hey, as we said, I'm representing us. I feel like, man, to be able to have the theme song, like, For the NBA. What? On Prime Out. You could have never told me. Like me, James Poison. James Poison is a producer who did a lot of Lauren stuff, did a lot of our stuff, played with the Roots. Like Erica Badu, he's an incredible producer, pianist. We have it. Let's check it out. Yeah, and Kareem Riggins. We did that all together. Let's check. This is the theme song. It's called Victory. I'm in media.

59:26That's sloppy like this.

59:32Victory is the name of it, baby. Yes, dude.

59:40Sha-Tem.

59:52Thank you.

1:00:24That's my part, I like, right? Ben, ben, ben, ben, ben, ben, ben. Thanks, man. Thanks, yo. Yo, I mean, I'm going to tell y 'all, like, this is one of, for me, is one of the, first I got to give it up. James Poison and Kareem Riggins, we co-produced that together, the theme song, but we, and back in March, we submitted, you know, they were taking submissions from different people, Amazon was, and, man, we got together in the studio and just started creating that, like getting our musician cast together and just, you know, putting together this theme song. And we knew we wanted it to feel like, we wanted it to feel nostalgic before it because, you know, it's like Amazon is doing something new with the NBA.

1:01:05But we still wanted that earth, went in fire, but, and it needed to be something I could come to Joe and Jada and we still like, yo, you know, like, you know, so, man, we, man. You know, you want to know what's so crazy? I hear Chicago all over that beat. Yeah. Like, I hear Lupe Fiasco. I hear you. I hear all y 'all spitters. I hear everything. Yeah, I hear all the Chicago spitters just going crazy on that beat right there. Like, that's sick. Chi-Town, like I said, Lupe Fiasco. Yeah. Kanye West. I always say there was this one guy. He was a freestyler. Juice. Juice. And I would go to see this guy spit.

1:01:46Whenever I went to Chicago, I'd be like, yo, where the guy Juice at? and they be like, yo, he's, they got some shit tonight. And you, what? You go with? Yo, Juice was like, like, it's like, almost like a hoop legend that, like, that you, like. That didn't make it to the league, but. Didn't make it to the league. He was like. He was, I want to give him his love, because that man is incredible. Yo, he was phenomenal, bro. He'd be like, he'll sit there and freestyle for, like, do a whole show just freestyling. And it'd be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, good. You just sitting there bars to death. And you sitting up in there like looking at them like, oh, my God.

1:02:27Yeah. And shout out to Twista. Yeah, Twista, man. Come on. Yes, sir. And we wanted to bring that like, we wanted to bring that soul to that theme song. Because it's like. You bought it. You know, like the stuff we grew up, you know, Point Black. Them's some classic joints. The one that we hear on NBC. That's the classic. Yeah. Right. So we like. You know what? To me, this is your version of. That. nah put your teammate up I think he made up I'm loving it for good? right yeah for McDonald's put your teammate up I'm loving it yeah I did that's what you want you want this shit 20 years from now 20 years from now when they show footage just da da da da da and still it is see and you remember that what?

1:03:09that's what why I know what that is and man just for us like as black artists to have a theme song for major sports and that ain't that ain't happened. No. Like a thing. If you couldn't have told me that I was a ball boy. They let you be a part of that. For them people to let you be a part of that collectively with the other guys and the people playing the instruments is a win for us. It's a win for us, man. We represent us, all of us. You know why? They get that. You was one of the first guys I called to try to get you on this box. We won the tent because you got that legendary beard. Yeah. You know, I try to get, you know, you got whiskers.

1:03:47You ain't got no beard, man. Why you keep looking at me like... I don't want to have a beer. Okay, so Common got the beer. He said, yo, I ain't ready for that right now. I'm like, why fight the time when you can rewind the time? I never wanted to have a beer. Why be 53 when you can be 42? Why be 42 when you can be 31? It's the Rolls Royce. I am. I'm already drinking it. Give something to the whole movie sack. You know what I'm saying? The best coffee on the bar. I'm so talking about it. Three generations, me, my dad and my son. You know what I mean? Sorisa rum, straight from Puerto Rico. Sorisa.

1:04:30So how did it? Sorisa rum. Sorisa rum, straight from Puerto Rico. Right? Yo, Sorisa. Sorisa, we own this. Everything we own. It's all shit we own. Yo, listen. Yo, comment, but I'm telling you, if you need the little, you know. I do. That's the quicker, picker, upper. I got gray. You can't be doing that while I'm drinking. Yo, that's the Rolls Royce of hair coloring. I'm not bullshit. It's right. Okay, I'm going to. And you know, some black and brown people, they get allergic to it. Our shit is sensitive. Pneumonia free. We thought of everything. Is it vegan? It's not vegan. That's Stiles P's version of that.

1:05:06It's basically un-vegan. See what I'm saying? You're vegan? So you can't even use it if it ain't vegan? Yeah, it can't have no. It got to have no bar parts. Let me tell you something. I throw my birthday party every year. I might have 72 mountains of food just there for no reason. Everybody, you walk by, grab a grape, whatever. It's just too much, right? Styles P come, Joe, what you got for a vegetarian? Vegan. That's right. For a vegan. I go, hold on. He identifies as plant-based. Plant-based. My sister, I go in the house and come out with the coconuts. you know the one you get the spoon with and you break the inside with the spoon?

1:05:50I bring him the coconuts and pour it he said wow Joe you got these cause them shits ain't from New York they from somewhere, they from Chile from the I bring him the fucking coconuts with the spoon I'm like I felt so good I was like yo I got you I got the coconuts man yeah Joe you gotta have something for the vegans at the party Yes! We, we, we, we a lot, man. We here. My body's a flagrant for the people. Palo Santo. Palo Santo. Say I gotta get some of that. Yeah, you always ahead of the time. Make sure y 'all get that because I'm coming, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be coming with a whole, like, not grooming, but that's one of the reasons, like, it's like, I'm doing some oils and stuff too and some natural things.

1:06:33Oh, so I gotta get running, huh? No, man. My shit number one, CBS, Sally's all over. We number one. That's what I'm talking about. Yo, we selling boxes. I found my first customer. I went to CVS over there across the street from the Beverly Center in LA. And it was a white guy. He had a fucking box in his hand. And I said, yo, he didn't even know I'm on a box. I was like, yo, you used to rewind it? He said all the time, if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me. And he shows me, because, you know, we got Travis Kelsey on a box. Oh, yeah. Turn over and go. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

1:07:10I was like, yay! Yo, that's amazing. Yes! I got to give it up for that. I was like, yes! You got Travis Kelce. Travis Kelce, Brody Jenner. Yeah. We got Gallet, Nicky Jam, reggae tone superstar. Like, we not playing. We got a white boy called Wonder Boy. He was that UFC. Yeah. You know, we good. UFC, you UFC. You know, Trump might not mess with you if you got one of them on the cover. You know what I'm saying? You know, that's his thing. That's... We pushed up in the front. My UFC guys over there, leave us the fuck alone, bro. We don't want no smoke. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's Cracking Kiss.

1:07:55Make some noise for our brother coming, y 'all. Yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. Legendary. What's up? Appreciate you, my brother. I appreciate y 'all. Love y 'all.

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From the publisher

Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Chicago rap legend Common. The three hip hop OGs talk about Common coming up alongside Joe, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, and The Beatnuts on Relativity Records, the time Joe saved Common's life during his beef with Ice Cube, how his iconic song "I Used To Love H.E.R." inspired the 2002 Taye Diggs film ‘Brown Sugar,’ composing the new theme to the NBA on Prime Video, the influence of KRS-One on conscious rap, where Will Smith and Tupac Shakur rank in his list of top rappers-turned-actors, and his successful acting career leading to roles in 'John Wick: Chapter 2,' Apple TV's 'Silo,' and 'Smokin' Aces.' Joe also tells priceless stories about turning down a role in 'Shaft,' Queen Latifah chasing him around the studio, and surprising Styles P (a vegan) with coconuts at one of his parties.

5:30 - Joe saving Common's life during Ice Cube beef

12:30 - Why nice guys like Common are successful with women

15:30 - Relationship with Jennifer Hudson

22:00 - Winning awards while ALWAYS repping hip hop

25:30 - KRS-One & conscious hip hop

35:00 - Joe's story of why he left Relativity Records

38:00 - Acting roles in 'John Wick: Chapter 2" & more

41:30 - Story behind "I Used To Love H.E.R."

45:45 - Fat Joe says he turned down a role in 'Shaft'

48:15 - Being a ball boy for Bulls during Michael Jordan era

51:30 - Queen Latifah CHASED Joe in the studio

53:00 - Top 5 rappers-turned-actors

55:00 - Composing the theme to NBA on Prime Video

1:00:00 - Joe tries his hardest to sign Common for Rewind It 10

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