DJ Khaled on Kendrick Lamar-Drake & 50 Cent-Fat Joe beefs, Jay-Z & Beyoncé, Jadakiss Top 5 DOA

30:06And it's like, OK, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great. Because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze.

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31:28What are you trying to prove? What else can you do to add on to the world? Because you've done so much. Joe Crack, I'm not trying to prove nothing. My only competition is me. I'm working on the 14th album, Alama God. Some people can't make it past their first album to have a career. Not only do I love music, I remember coming as a kid. I had to be at least seven, eight years old when I fell in love with music. Around 10 or 11, I had to know like, yo, this shit is serious. 12, 13, I said, this is my life. So hip hop, my life. And it changed my life. And it's done so much for my life. But also throughout my career, I knew I was going to be an entrepreneur.

32:18I knew I was going to make music. I knew I would be a DJ. I knew I would be a producer. I knew I'd be an artist. I knew I would be a music exec. I knew that I was one day going to be a part of music history. That's right. I don't know how, what I was going to do as far as like, you know, when the albums came, I remember dropping the first album, Joe, I came to you. You know, we had many talks on the swimming pool. I think I was convincing you about put Eminem on lean back. I was telling him like, he's like, yo, I told him put Eminem on lean back and he was like, yo, Cal, we can't. I'm like. I thought we couldn't get him.

32:56I was like, yo, I'm like, what the fuck he talking about? This Joey crack. That's when I really knew the power of Calix. So Calix, relentless, determined. I mean, I heard stories of you getting guys on records where you climbed over their mansion gates. Yes. Facts. One of the most consistent, relentless. Yes. Knock down your doorknob. Yes. Cali. He needs his verse. Yo, listen. He'll come out of the mud. But Kiss, hold on, Kiss. He'll come out of the center, he goes beyond. But Joe, hold on. I'm glad he said that, because first of all, that's facts. Hold on. I'm always here for you, Cali. No, no, no, no.

33:43The reason why I'm saying that is because Even when it's not my record, remember, I ain't on a lot of my brother Ross's albums with him and Pooch. And I remember how to get J to kiss on Maybach music. Yeah. One of the Maybachs. One of the Maybach music parts. And Ross like, yo, we need kiss on there. I was like, yo, we reached out to kiss, kiss automatically. Like, yo, I got you. I'm in New York city. The problem is we got to turn in the album. I called him. We got to turn the album the next day. I'm lighting up Kiss's phone like no other. People around him. Nobody can get Jadakiss. Yo, listen, listen, listen.

34:24You got Jadakiss same day? Listen. Get down on me. Not just Jadakiss, everybody. Finally, I got the message to Kiss. He's like, yo, come to Yonkers studio. Kiss, did I show up? Pulled up the D block. Pulled up the D block. Played the record. kiss, you know what he do? Light one up. Let that music play. That's how you did it? No, I'm just telling you the truth. I can make shit up if you want me to make it up. Any verse I got from J.D. because I had to chase him. Oh, no, no. Lying again, y 'all. Listen, listen. And the man not only delivered. Not only do you got to give him a Rolex. He's lying. The man not only delivered.

35:06I left his studio, went to the mastering studio, mastered the album. and the rest was history. You know, Jadakiss, you know, anytime I called him for a Khaled album, not only did he bless the album, he always, always, always, always, always got me. And I'm forever grateful for that, brother. Forever. You know what it is. Khaled pulled up to the block, man. Khaled, Pistol, the whole crew. middle of the street hopped on dirt bikes I missed that one he was telling me to come he was like this superhero he made people's lives that when I see them to this day they like thank you for bringing DJ Khaled to the block nah I love that I had so much fun I forgot we was we was you know shooting a video this shit was so much fun and with that Wahlberg.

36:11Not even just that, Jadakiss blessed me. Besides my albums, I reached out to Kiss one time to bless me for my Jordans commercial. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he blessed me with that. You know what I'm saying? You know what, Joe, man? Like, being on this show, you know what I'm saying? Y 'all two brothers, I can, the whole show, I can just dedicate me praising y 'all. First of all, y 'all two hip-hop kings, two hip-hop legends. And not only though, I love you, everybody loves you. I really want to ask you a question that's on my mind, but I know you're not going to answer it. Don't ask.

36:44Because what's the biggest check you ever got in your life? Oh, say. No. Oh, say. Yeah, you got him singing it. Yo, yo, yo. What's the biggest check? You know what's so beautiful about that question? That none was ever given to me. I know that. No, no, no. I'm going to answer it. Okay. None was ever given to me. Let me give you a reference. Let me give you a reference. One day I did a deal. I made a million dollars. I ran over here to tell him so bad. I came, sat down like, you know, I made a deal for a million dollars. So I sat right here. He sat next to me. And I was like, when I was about to tell him, yo, Cal, Cal just said, yo.

37:26They just left. I said, who are you saying? Toothpaste commercial,$5 million in my bathroom right here. I didn't even have to leave the house. I was like, oh, see, can you see? This was the moment I've been waiting for to tell him, y 'all, I just made a million and some shit. He said, man, just paid$5 million, brushing my teeth. They just left. I sat back. I said, yo, at that point, I'm terrified to tell you I'm terrified. Whatever I make. I'm going to be honest with you, man. It's not about the number amount that we make. You know what I'm saying? What's the biggest check that you looked at and you said,

38:12hallelujah, we good. You know what the biggest thing that I love about being an overcomer? Let's keep it real. We're overcoming. Super. Jada Kiss, you're an overcomer. Joey Crack, you're an overcomer. You're rich. DJ Khaled, I'm an overcomer. If it was up to them, they would want us broke, miserable, unhappy. they would want us, instead of being right here, they would want us to, you know, just they don't want that for us. No, no, how sad that you make other people angry. The best things I ever did for my blessing. How sad is it that our success, there's people out there that are really upset that we worked hard and God blessed us to be successful.

38:58Does that ever bother you? Because it does bother me. I tell you what it doesn't bother me. that I take care of my mother, father, my wife and my kids, and if my brothers that I love that's with me forever, I'm right here. That don't bother me. And that's what it's about. You know what I'm saying? It's not about how much you make. This is a feeling that is undescribable. When I talk to my mother and my mother and I know that I'm taking care of my mother and father and they ain't got to pay for nothing. When I see my kids go to Dream Mall, we live in Miami, go to Dream Mall to play with ninja kids for the day and come back home the same day and make it to school.

39:49Man, what a blessing. You know how it feel when my son wake up and say, yo, I want to, it's done. that's what it's about so that number amount what you're talking about it's no limits when God bless you cause I'm not stopping and when you in Miami let's go shopping I can't go shopping we the best I can't go shopping listen I can't go shopping with another fat dude Yo, Joe, something that would want me to fucking be miserable. Every jacket, I went shopping with him. Man, I like... What's in it? I'm walking out with a scarf. You can stop it. No, no, no, no, no. She can't stop it. Tell him. Leave it.

40:41Yo, listen, Jada. One day he says, yo, Joe, bring your money. Right? We going shopping. I come a duffel bag of money. He come with one. We go over there. Every store we walk in, he grab the flyer's jacket. I need this. I need this. I'm looking, I'm walking out with a scarf, a fucking handkerchief. I'm like, yo, Kelly, I cannot go shopping with you. Yo, Joe. You pulling everything out. Yo, Joe Crack. I'm not lying. They call this Miami Dolphin. Yo, kids. You think, yo, kids. That's one thing. They take my kindness for weakness. Because you know I'm kind. And, kids, you know I got love. But a lot of people take our kindness for weakness.

41:27Listen! I want you to take it for greatness. I want you to take it for motivation. I want you to take it for inspiration. I want you to take it so you know you can do it. I've heard Joe say it. I've heard many of the greats say it. And I must say it. Every time I've seen somebody win, real hustlers respect real hustlers and they show love to other hustlers. And they let them know it's possible. Remember, I was the kid in the backseat of a Joe Crack, Escalade, UConn, a Benz and a Lexus, Crack, and an MPV. I think I named all your whips. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. So I just want you to know, I was a sponge.

42:13So to see my brother not only be an icon, Fat Joe, and Big Pun, I was there with Big Pun Rose recorded still not a player. I'll tell you a story. The man recorded still not a player. Me and Joe crack came to the studio and big pun with Joe crack was like, yo, we got to go to the studio. I'm in New York visiting Joe. I was staying in Brownsville. God bless my man. Passed away. Bugsy. God bless him. And Joe was like, yo, I'm going to pick you up. I'm like, I gave him the address. I'm in Brownsville. He's like, yo, what are you doing at Brownsville? So I ended up meeting him in the city and we go to the city to meet big big punt.

42:53He come in the studio, big punt sitting on a chair like this, you know, in the studio, like the lounge. Yeah. And he got a little, uh, nickel bags all over the table. And he rolling up a blunt show. Crap walk in the studio. You know, it's joke right in the dawn at that time. No, still the dawn, but I love his growth. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta always bigger man for his growth. Cause at that time it was like John Gotti. Mm hmm. the man walk in the studio just brought a big check gives him a check a check and then says see the Lexus outside is George am I lying? right he recorded still not a player but then recorded the final version Steve Rifkin and everybody from the label kept calling Joe and playing like yo what's up when we getting this record when we getting a single what we get.

43:51The original one or the remix? The remix. No, the remix. Remix, remix. I'm glad you said that. The remix. Yeah. And pun went in the booth and freestyle just talking mad craziness. Like, you know, the label this and this and that and this and that. They trying to this and that. The man did like a freestyle. Just to like, at that time, people wanted to know if you was working. They paying for studio time and all that. And who produced the record was, damn. I forgot the name of the producer, but Big Em Up. I remember the record being made. But I just loved it because I got to see... Minnie did the original.

44:25Minnie did the original. I got to see Pun in his rare form and I'll never forget because that's when one of the... What was the beat that Clue had that didn't come out that was just so... It was a beat that Clue had that he gave you that day y 'all, Pun heard it and he ripped it down. You know, you people can't see this house, right? But this is fucking... we in like Frank Sinatra's house whatever Jackie Gleason whoever the motherfuckers ran Miami we in Emilio Estefan's house here and so many times I came over here to see Khaled and Khaled be like this he look at me and he go no no I swear to God he says

45:15I'm proud of you you fat Joe you doing big things are nothing like you walking in with Big Punt. Break that down for us because he told me this and I be like yo Punt, I mean like Kelly what you want me to do? He be like yo you in Punt? You seen me in Punt? You seen that. Kiss you part of that era. You seen the Joe in Punt era. And I just remember I'm the kid in the back seat. you know Joe loved me so much he really had a hundred you know how you always say a hundred guys with him I know you want to throw the talent and all that 25 okay listen if it ain't a hundred it gotta be 75 35 super snipers I'm gonna be real with you it was special bro definitely okay I can tell you that what I'm saying is Joe and Pine I'm so blessed in my career to see that to witness the birth I remember Joe telling me he played me the Twins.

46:21He played me Twins using the Lexus in front of Fifth Avenue in South Beach in front of Club Cream. And he played me Twins. And he's like, yo, this is for a mixtape. I couldn't believe he told me it was... That's how focused I was back in them days. The mixtape was the hottest shit in the world. Yeah, that was the shit. I was telling him, I can't believe you saying this is for a mixtape. I said, this the one. That's how focused I was. And by the way, mixtape was the one. I'm just trying to show you how I was thinking. How your brain was broken. Joe not only had, you know, blessed me to have a relation with Pun, but Pun used to come to Miami.

47:05He came to Miami. He went to, um, God bless him, man. Pun would drive down to Miami. He came to Miami in a van. He used to play him his music. No, but Pun was on promo tour together. His first album and my first album. We went all over the world together. We did King's Dominion together. We was on Mad Flights together. Kiss, the man Pun came down to Miami to play me the album, and I'm going to tell you a story. He said, Cal, meet me at Wet Willys. We go to Wet Willys. I jump in the van. You know, Wet Willys at that time was shit. The man popped the doors open. There's a band. It's me and it's pun.

47:51And the man had a big T.S. chain like this. Big, the big. Hold on. He plays me. The battle with Jada Kiss and Big Pun. No, no, no, no, no.

48:05On everything I love. He plays me in front of people. The battle with Jada. and Pun. He plays me that whole album and I'm listening to that shit. Who thought of that? You and Pun acting like y 'all was battling on a record. No, he played me that. I don't know. I don't know of him, Green Lantern, somebody. He played me that. No, I'm glad. You were telling me for years he kept telling me because as far as I know, there is no more big pun music. As far as Joe Crack knows, there is no more big pun music. Like new verses, shit like that. And he kept telling me, there's a joint. Jada and fucking pun.

48:56Pun played it for me. It never came out. I'm telling you. Go get it. On everything I love, he played it for me. Hold on. You know, I'll never forget. I drove from Miami this is when I was doing the Luke show on 99 Jams and every Friday we would do a world premiere I remember world premiere like everything that was hot before it was hot and I drove all the way from Miami to New York and I went to Pun's house he had his house and I gotta keep it real with you I don't know why y 'all think Joe Caput the man Pun had a hundred people around his house and like at least 50 people in his house He was going to jail for a thousand years.

49:41No, listen. If he died, he was going to jail for a thousand years. I went there. Listen, I went in the house. And I'm trying to find the dad. I'm trying to find the dad. I had a pun. Freestyle over Biggie. Victory. From top to bottom. When he got done freestyling, with all due respect, God bless my brother, when the beat shut off, the man took a nap. I never seen nothing like it in my life. He just got done ripping it down. Legendary. And when the beat faded out, he took a nap. No, you got to understand, I'm sitting in the living room like, no, he getting busy. So after you wake up and we chill and we talking, first of all, I couldn't believe I was in Pun's house.

50:35I never forget it. My brother Nasty, he has the dat because I give him all my dats back in them days. We trying to find it. I had him run from the beginning of victory to end of victory. Imagine how that shit sounded. Be fun. How could you lose? I'm not saying it's lost. I'm saying my brother Nass is being lazy because he got everything. That man right there, if there's a buffet, he's showing up. that's my brother now Nasty you know Nasty's a great guy you know when I met Khaled, Jamie you love this shit right I met Khaled what was it New Music Seminar Rest in Peace New Music Seminar Clark Kent had a battle Clark Kent had a battle and what's my man that won the freestyle battle in New Music Seminar with a drag your man loved him Supernatural Supernatural won the Supernatural won the freestyle battle Clark Kent had a DJ battle I met Joey Crack in front of New Music Seminar outside I had the Flojo album Vinyl You know Joey Crack at that time even if he was happy he had a grill like this So you didn't understand if he was gonna hurt you or if he's just being like so when I met him he's like yo how you got that vinyl because I wasn't out yet and I was I ain't gonna lie I was scared shitless I can't lie I was like yo this is a promo you know what I'm saying I gotta connect I didn't want to reveal the connect but since you know it's all love now me as a you know it's hip hop what was his name it was Rock and Soul oh my Rock and Soul gave it to me they always held certain promos for me when I come in town like you know what I mean I always keep my relationships at a high key so even I wasn't from New York when I come to Rock and Soul they always had my my shit on the side and it was a Joey Crack album he's like yo how you got that I'm not trying to tell on the TV this is around the time we used to beat up the bootleggers and all that it was a sticky time bootlegging and all that and I was like, y 'all, I'm a fan, boom, boom, boom and we built a relationship from that day on and I'll never forget he came to Orlando with Pun and they had like a red beat, matter of fact, those pictures that you post up with the red BMW, the convertible, that is I met Joey Crack months before that and he came to Orlando and it was a show with Shaq and Nas and they got pictures of that, you know, when they talk about that thing, I always comment on the comments, I was there.

53:30Ain't that crazy now? Now shit come up and you gotta say, yo, I was there. You gotta remember, I was the little kid. I was a kid, I was a baby, but I was embracing this greatness. I gotta see Biz Markie, Joey Crack and Big Pun and all these greats. Remember, I'm a little kid just in love with hip-hop. I was DJing clubs and halls before I was able to drive. You know, I was passing out flies at 12 years old to parties I wanted you to come out to. I'm not making this up.

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57:25Top five Miami anthems. Top five Miami anthems. Anything from Trick Daddy. Hey, Juan. I mean, it's too many. Motherfucker running no five. That one. That one. That one too. Yeah, but the number one is Motherfucker Wanna Know Why. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. Yeah, that's on Mount Rushmore. In my motherfucker there. Hold on. That's Mount Rushmore. I can't forget Uncle Luke. Anyone of them. Anyone. Birthday, all them. And then, of course, Rosé Hustlin'. Doodle Brown. Rosé Hustlin'. Doodle Brown is in fucking... Rosé Hustlin'. And then... Jose hustling. I mean, it's more than top five.

58:10I can't tell. I don't got to have something. Don't rush more. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. DJ Khaled, I'm so hood. Rushmore. I'm so hood. DJ Khaled born and raised. Rushmore. I get high. Yo, kiss. Yo, kiss. You know I'm humble. I'm humble. But I'm very confident. See, people get humble and confident and confused. I'm humble. All right. Because every day I pray. Every day I'm giving thanks. With the camera on and when it's off. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. And that's what I'm, this is real light. But I'm confident. Yo, kiss, crack. Ain't nobody ever do it like a DJ cat.

59:00Break that down. It's a catalog. album. My catalog is several greatest hits. Not one greatest hits. Several different parts of greatest hits. I could talk to you hours and hours about anthems that we all was a part of, grew up on, or a time marker in their life. Don't get it twisted. This DJ, Cali, My confidence level, not only is at a high level, it's facts. It's different when it's at a high level and it's facts. God, my humbleness, my humbleness. All glory to God. Alam of God. No, God will mean. What does Alam of God mean? Alam in Arabic means world. Alam. Alam means world. World of God. This is world of God.

1:00:02The reason why I named my album Alama God, not only is my son named Alama of God, you know, I thought about it coming off of God did. I said, man, you know what? I had to remind people not only they didn't believe in us that God did. And I felt like when I said that it resonated with the world and they oversteel what I was saying. That's why that song was so impactful. And the album was impactful. five nominations on a Grammys. We ain't win one, but we won in real life. And God willing, we will win one. Top five moments. You know, I was there when we was in Noble and we heard a little beat. You recorded it.

1:00:46And the next thing I knew, two days later, you had Beyonce singing that shit. Yeah. Top five moments that blew your mind that you, maybe it was Yeezy coming in here. What's your top five moments that blew your mind and you was like, is this happening? What are you talking about right there? You recorded something. It was actually Zuma. I shot it to Noba. Because Noba was, I love Noba. I got the Noba sushi sneakers. It was Zuma. It was Zuma and I heard his record playing. It was in the private room. And I was like, this shit crazy. So I Shazammed it. I'm there with you. I Shazammed it. And the next day I went home, looped it up, got with the team and we made Shining.

1:01:29I presented it to Jay-Z and Beyonce and I'll never forget because I went to see Jay-Z and I brought my own speaker to him and I was like I need to have a meeting with you and one thing I love about Jigga if he love you the man is accessible me and he has as big as he is 9 out of 10 if you got love and respect you can have a meeting with him so I had a meeting with him and I remember I was like yo I played him a bunch of beats and I was like yo I knew you on my album and I played him shining instrumental I'm like yo I need you on this and he was like this look I remember turning it down I was like yo but I need you and I need the queen on this he looked at me like I was crazy not being honest you want me to lie to you I could lie to you I know so I was like yo I need the queen on this too so when I'm leaving he's like you'll leave me the it's too many great stories we'll hold but that particular story he's like leave me with that joint he didn't say he gonna get the queen on he didn't say nothing that same day I had to do something for ESPN I think it was at the Barclays and it was like I did something like you know I'm saying um on stage it was on TV whatever that situation was at that time and he was there and he had a I think he was honoring and LeBron or something.

1:02:54So we bumping each other again. And when I see him, he's like, yo. You know, I played that for the Queen. You know me, I'm trying to keep it cool. I'm trying to keep it cool. So I'm like, it's love. You know, I'm just keeping it cool. So I'm leaving. I get to the car, I'm telling him on my team, like, yo, Jigga just said he played it for Beyonce. So later on, hours after that, The man Jigga sent me a picture of him in the jet, like the sunrise through the jet window. You know me and B listening to this joint. I'm looking at my text like, yes, look. You know that shit when you look at your phone, you try to see somebody around you?

1:03:43Like, you're like, look. You're like, yes, look. So boom. A few days later, there's a Roc Nation brunch in L.A. I think it might have been like the first one. If not the first, the second one. So I walk in the brunch. You know, he just sent me that pic. a few days there. Me, you know, I can't, I ain't, I ain't gotta do the consistency, you know, because I'm like, yo, let me not fuck this up. Let me breathe. Let her breathe. So I'm walking in the brunch. Shooter and I see ho, he's like, yo, come to the crib after the Rock Nation brunch. I want you to hear something. And he told me, keep your head high.

1:04:24Do this whole brunch. Walk around here with your head high. What me to do, lie to you? That's what the man told me. He said, walk around his brunch with your head on. Oof. I'm in a black leather. Walking around that motherfucker so relaxed. So at ease. Soon as the brunch is over, I'm at his crib. And he play me shining.

1:04:56And God, it's great. And I started that record off and I said, I've been working my whole life for this. That's how I started the record off. Go to Apple Music, Spotify right now and listen to it. That's just one story. Don't forget, I got them on God Did. I got the keys. Keys, keys, keys. God Did. God Did. Him and Nas. Sorry, Nas. God Did. He went too crazy on the God Did. Yo, it's crazy. because when I wanted to see Kiss on Yonkers, you know, God, the album just dropped that week. And I filmed the video with him that week. You know, because I went to New York for the promo, so I wanted to film the video with that week.

1:05:38The album was like two days old. And Kiss was on the block with his whole crew. And we had God there. Pete was there. We had God there playing. And Kiss was reciting his bars, the whole verse word for word. The whole block was. I have it on camera. Pull it up. Somebody, Jamie, send them. Somebody go on my Instagram and find it. It just came out. The God Did story, I went to play him my whole album, and I played him Drake No Secret. That's how my album starts on God Did. So I play him No Secret, and then it goes into God Did. So when he heard No Secret, he was vibing. You know, when the head started doing this, and then boom God did came in and then when that came in I hit him with a talk you know that talk you can't yo Joe Jay did I hit him with a talk they don't believe in it breaks my heart they don't believe in that you could be over there hating and being a fuck boy you could be over here in Miami grabbing a mango off the holy ground tree they said you want to be a fuck boy you could be over here embracing love more love, more life, more blessings.

1:06:53So remember, he hearing that. And then Rosé come in. He like this. Then the hook come in. He like... That's when the Ace of Spades started doing this type of shit. The man started doing... I'm not making this up. I have this on film. I have this on pictures. I have it. He started doing this. Hold on, hold on. I'm not done with the story. Then Lil Wayne come in. Mm. We like. By the time he already like this, look. Then I left the open verse. Might as well pop that bottle. And I said, look, look. I kept doing this to him, look. I pointed him like, that's you. That's where you come in. So he like this.

1:07:44I see him freestyling his head. He loving it. But I continue. I don't stop the music. I continue playing in the album you gotta pull that God beat back again I was like looking at Jamie and everybody I was like

1:08:02I'm in there like look at the pictures go back to the Instagram I'm in there like this now look myself myself when he said bring it back now he is there the man the man starts flowing the first four bars of the verse then he tells Lenny S come here whisper to Lenny S's ears the problem is I'm right here so when he got his hand right here I see what he's saying he says tell Guru set up studio something is going to get done that night when I leave he's like you'll send me this song this song this song he told me to send like five songs so now I'm confused I sent him five songs, but I'm happy. Did you know you're going to get something going?

1:08:52Something happening. A few days later, he's like, yo, Calvin Lenny, book studio, blah, blah, blah. You know I reply so fast. Been done. The whole time I'm like, please God tell me the studio's available. Because he picked a certain studio. I put been done. It was this New York studio. Yeah, it's New York. It's New York. hours later no no no let me keep it more honest the man texted say yo book studio yo Callen book studio for this time but I only have an hour because I got to catch the helicopter to the Hamptons no problem and he's like on the group text Lenny tell Guru make sure he's there I hit Lenny on the side whatever Guru needs we have to pick him up bring him there you lie to you ask Lenny I was it was like I was in that day he FaceTimed me and he got the FaceTime to the speaker and I hear the verse the problem is after it went 12 bars I heard 16 then 24 the problem is I thought the phone was stuck because it kept going So I'm confused.

1:10:16I'm like crazy. Like a hundred bar verse. So I'm like losing my mind on the FaceTime, but I'm also like, yo, tell Guru to send it so I can do my thing to it. So Guru texts me, sends me the files immediately and immediately I'm in the studio with my engineer one and I'm blending it and I'm like making the vocals and certain beat drops. I'm going crazy. I'm changing the beat now. I got drops. I'm leveling out the vocals. Certain echoes got a breed here. I'm in my mode I sent it back to him right away God did that was a God did moment and I never forget because right after that I think like two, three days I did the Drink Champs interview and I was just at an all time high with so much confidence before my album came out because I knew I had a whole verse but not like a whole verse like something that I've been screaming out to the world saying they ain't believing as God did and I got a hold on a record called God Did and he starts off his verse and says, ho's dead.

1:11:16Ho's dead. You understand what I'm trying to say, kids? And crack? So you gotta, remember, y 'all used to this type of shit. Nah, we ain't used to it. No, crack, you gotta understand, I'm a fan of this shit. I went to the Grammys with you with the bubblegum shit on you. So speaking of the Grammys, speaking of the Grammys. Yo, listen, guys, y 'all gotta give it up already. When you come to the fashion, you have been annihilated and destroyed on this show here. This is Cuban Kiss. He has the Guaya Veda Louis Vuitton shit. And this is the brown, chocolate brown check with the fucking leather. That's a different kind of leather.

1:11:57That's a different leather. Yeah, I got those, but I mean, I love it. You can't come with no bullshit. You come to the Holy Grail. Hey, yo, Cala, man. Holy crap. Stay shitting on these people over here, man. These guys are dizzy. We got them. Flabby is sick. They got to reinvent their whole podcast, whatever, because our shit, we are storytelling. And, man, we paint the picture so clear. And I see them, they starting to adjust. Look, even you adjust and you get dated. Right? So there was the round phone, then they made a cell phone. Then they made FaceTime. They had the big TV. Then they made the flat screen.

1:12:43With the fat ass on it. With the fat ass on it. And now there's a new podcast because of Joe and Jada. I'm almost over the rookie of the year. I'm almost ready to say, Joe, we just number one. Fuck these dudes. I'm telling you, we better than everybody. I know, but I want to be real with you because I want you to give a fuck. Kiss, kiss, crack, crack, kiss. As much as they don't want us to win. That's a fact. As much as they don't want us to win. We can't. We got to be. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got to be humble. Yeah, no. As much as they don't want us to win. I want to remind both of all three of us and everybody that's watching us.

1:13:24As much as they don't want us to win. There's actually more that want us to win. you know unfortunately we get inspired by they don't want us to win so that's why you hear crack passionately saying we the number one and I'm telling you the number one because again we humble but we confident and if you speak in authentic as Joe and Jada you can't question that. Preserving the culture you can't this is the culture but this is the culture don't let that go over your head don't let it go over your head for real this is the culture but this is for the culture what I'm saying is but I want to remind us because sometimes I have to remind myself there's more love than there's hate hate is just loud and annoying but real hustlers true hustlers always big each other up you know that when you see another real hustler a real Don you taught me something that I never thought about you gave me a point in the map of the world the world's so big the world's so big and when they hate believe it or not it's this much out of the whole world and I realized that in life throughout my career.

1:15:01I was like, yo. The hate is loud. You know what I'm saying? And the love is massive. And what I learned throughout my career, you know, when it come down to hate, me personally, I only can speak for Cali Cali, I don't deal with it. I'm too busy raising my kids, feeding my family. Doing shit. And working. And I know people make up cliche. I'm setting my dreams, the goals, and bringing it to life. I'm busy. No, on everything I love, I'm busy. When I wake up in the morning, I'm busy. I pray all day. And I work. And I'm going to outwork everyone. That's me. I can't speak for everybody else. But when it comes down to love and hate, you're going to have love.

1:15:55Without love, there's going to be hate. and what I hate, there's going to be love. You know, in life, it's like you choose good or you choose evil. Me personally, I choose love and good. That's how I roll. What do you do? What do you do? I'm just not soft. I'm not going to blink. I'm not going to flinch. Yes, I have some brothers of mine that love me and they're the realest. You know Joey Crack. and I could speak a hundred other names, but just in my bloodline, you know what I'm saying? I'm always going to be righteous, but I'm not soft. Because some people take righteousness for soft. I don't know why.

1:16:41And when they test me with the softness, I hit them with the righteousness.

1:16:50Yo, listen, I look at pictures of us, right? because you got a bunch in this house. We got a bunch in my house. And I'm not confused. I know who I am. And so the people can say cap all they want. They ain't know. They never heard of Fat Joe getting played in their life. They never heard of one of their favorite rappers playing Fat Joe or playing with Fat Joe in their life. But when I look at these pictures, I always, there's times I ask God, I said, because this man is who he is. He's truly righteous. He's really about his family. He's about his community. He's about our love and peace. I hear this shit with no family.

1:17:33But I've been like that from day one, though. I know that, Cali. Hold on, Joe, you know that, but I don't let Jadakiss. I know you're speaking to them, but everybody know me and you're brothers. We blood. Listen, crap, I love you. I thank you. Thank you for believing me. Thank you for me telling you. You gave me my first record deal. Thank you. Hold on, Joe. If I need a loan. It's too much you've done for me. Answer the question. If I need a loan, can I come to you one day? Shit, we're out here. You know it's a recession. But I got you. It's a recession. That's the bullshit, Rich. No, Rich, it's a recession.

1:18:09You know that? No, no. Somebody asked me the other day for a little bag. I asked him half the bag because it's a recession. No, but I'm there. I'm there. Yo, we honest. Listen. Listen, but kiss. Kiss. Straight a kiss.

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1:21:45Chay the Kiss top five. Have I been like that from day one? Kiko, you know how to switch it up. No, no, no. Crack. This is different. You different. Everybody know me and you brother. Chay the Kiss top five. Have I been like that from day one? facts facts you know J the kids ain't gonna say facts just to say facts no no no you know the man gonna throw a flag he ain't gonna throw a whole hand up in the sky the man gonna like you know what I'm saying like hold on hold on hold on Sebastian can I get a loan yo I have yes yo hold on hold on that's the truth you get the rent can I get a loan one day if I need it but Joe you make it I don't need no loan Joe you I don't need it but I wanna hear it you're my richest friend I wanna put you to it Joe you're my richest friend.

1:22:34I just want it in the air. Joe, you're my richest friend. Damn, Callie, you don't answer the question. Of course, but Joe, I'm going to be here. Joe, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Hold up. So I look at the picture, and I look at, I know who I am. And I'm a reformed gangster, and I'm a God lover, a God fearer. Can I say something? Sorry. Because he said all that. you know I know Joey Crack I know Joey Crack I know Don Cartagena I know the stories that some of y 'all think is Cat you know what I'm saying what I'm saying is through all that he is the nicest okay how can I say this if he's your friend if that's the key word if he's your friend when he's your friend He's all in.

1:23:34Break that down. Break that down. I can tell you. I'm going to tell you, but I can. Strangers that I don't know that his friend will tell you that. When I say all in, through the good, through the trials and tribulations, through anything, he shows up. No, no, no, no, no. Kiss. When I say show up, not an inspiration, motivation. Yo, I love you. I got you. I'm praying for you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He show up. Kiss, look at me. He show up.

1:24:14Show up, show up? No. Show up. Show up. Against anybody. He's a beautiful man. Against anybody. He's a beautiful man. Yo, Kelly, yo, Kelly. He's a beautiful man. Yo, Kelly, against anybody. What I'm trying to tell you is that. It could be guys Not just me It could be Scariest things you ever see Anybody It could be people I don't know It's what we're doing here But check this out Say I see Joe friends with a Somebody that A sneaker head A jeweler A rapper A family man If he's your friend You don't know the definition of a friend Do you mean Joey crap? And I'm not saying this Because I'm on the Joey and Jody Joey And Jada show I cannot just say that because of that You know what I'm saying?

1:24:59Because he said something earlier, it's rare to see true brotherhood. It's a fact. You know what I'm saying? Me, I'm going to always salute the brotherhood. What's the song with fucking Meek Mill and me and Scarface and John Legend and Akon? You know that? So that's all. You gained the jails with that. So that record called Never Surrender. Never Surrender. Trader Kiss, Meek Mill, Akon, Anthony Hamilton. Somebody else. Scarface. Dang. Let's up Scarface. John Legend. All these people on one record. I never forget making that because I was on my Quincy Jones shit and I was just cutting everybody's vocals.

1:25:46And later on, I would just put it together. But that particular record, I had grown men come up to me. Grown men come up with that. Some of the realest guys, like a Joey Crack, come up to me and say, yo, brother Calvin, I cried tears when I heard that record. I cried tears when I heard that record. When I play that now and I throw it for a throwback and I think about making that collab and calling Kiss and getting Anthony Hamilton to film his part in Africa and John Legend to film his part in New York and you film your part in Yonkers and you know in Harlem and yeah in Harlem I was there in Harlem with the Black Maybach at that time I think BMF was starting to ring off right all this me and Meek and Ross in Atlanta was in Atlanta with a hundred behind us with Akon singing the hook but that particular Scarface doing his hook is versus Houston, even Face Mob told me, yo, that verse, he said like, it put tears in his eyes saying that verse.

1:27:02You know what I'm saying? You know how you say some people think shit is cat and some shit is no cat. Play with me if you think. You know what I'm saying? First of all, the music, the soulful, the feeling and the lyrics, you know that song basically is saying love all. but trust few. You know what I'm saying? You know, when I was making a Lama God, the original name for a Lama God was two names before it became a Lama God. And I'd be careful with my titles because I live my titles. So I had to be careful. At first it was called Love All, Trust Few. And I was starting to make the album and I was in a dark place.

1:27:43So all the records started sounding dark. So I snapped out quick. I'm like, yo, yo, yo. I only want two or three of those joints. I like dark. So I changed the title quick and I called it All Glory to God. The world's dark right now. So I ended up calling it All Glory to God and then my wife was like, yo, you made an album called Father Versailles. You know, you got to rep a llama. I'm like, you right. And I had that album called Glory to God and I was like, you know what? It's going to be called a llama, God. Special kid alarm, man. So you understand, you know what I'm saying? If you think about you know, if anybody want to take time and look at the titles from the beginning of my albums, to where I'm at now.

1:28:22You look at my life at that time, you know I lived that title. Let me ask you a question, right? Simple. Because somebody, you know, we brought up top five DJs and I'm sorry because my brother is so wealthy. You know, I could hire a DJ. Can I throw this down or no? You could throw it down. Caled throwing the flag. I don't know. When he starts saying sorry and shit like that. Nah, because. Is that throwing the flag? Yeah, Caled. Should I throw it in Nella? What else should I throw? Nah, because. Yo, kids, that's what you need to do. I'm going to say something we usually don't do, talk beyond the scenes.

1:29:05But Caled tore my ear off because when I said top five DJs, he was like, yo, I'm a DJ. A real DJ that ripped. and nobody knows more than me how much Khaled rips down the show, but he's so rich. Right? So I'm like a DJ I can hire. I can't hire Khaled. But I caught backlash from other DJs that were like, no, Khaled is a real DJ. You need to include him. Who's your top five DJs of all time? No politics. Who do you enjoy? I would say Kid Capri, Funkmaster Flex, Clark Kent. Wow. And the reason why I say it, first of all, those three are some of the greatest DJs. But I have personal stories with all three of them.

1:30:04You know what I'm saying? Because I looked up to them as an idol. You know what I'm saying? So definitely Kid Capri, Funk Flex, Clark Kent. I have amazing stories with all of them. And then I would have to say Premiere. And I would have to say it's crazy because it's like I want to throw like a certain mixtape DJ out there. There were so many at that time that I loved. So it was like S &S, Clue and it was like Ron G, Duwap and it was like but I just remember like S &S premiering Onyx, This Is The Way We Walk a New Dog. You remember that Onyx song? I remember him premiering that on a tape. Onyx changed my life.

1:30:48That particular song, if you go back to that tape, the way he premiered that and his voice. So like SNS started turning into like the street. You know, that's when Jigga and Pac and Biggie started coming. So the music and DJ started changing and you started seeing the streak come out of it. You know, you had your boom bap and you had your Before I Let Go, and then Top Billing and the Arab people president, but then when SNS came, you started coming with like this is the way we walk in New York. You know, like, you know, this shit started getting gangster. You know, am I lying? Yes, I've exchanged my whole career.

1:31:31So that last one is so many, I don't have, I can't particularly name it, but there's so many cause even like the double R mixtape with the blends remember that G-Bo the Pro G-Bo the Pro double R remember that tape 10 Smooths brothers 10 Smooths remember all those tapes them niggas had something going shit they had shit that G-Bo the Pro double R that was great rest in peace my brother my brother but then you had like a J Master J that was so legendary then you had a DJ Scratch so the fifth one is always fucked up for me cause you had a Scratch that was cutting hoo-ha Public Enemy on EPMD records.

1:32:09You know, shit that I'm like, what the fuck, right? You know, it's so many. Then you got Terminator X on Rebel as a Pause. You know, seeing that is so much shit. So that fifth one is tough for me because it's just like, you know, I really love it. But you know, Joe, I noticed you tell a lot of stories, but you don't tell them some of them DJ Khaled stories of Khaled coming up in the club and demolishing the fucking place. Listen, I know that I used to fight BMF in Miami trying to get in your club. Like, we used to be online trying to bum rush because there was this club out here. What was the club?

1:32:48Amnesia? I mean, we had Amnesia. What was the club that was outdoor and then you had the room? And we had Club Crave that got crazy, too. Yeah, I know. But you had that room in there. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, that's three in the morning. And the whole room. When I play Young Jeezy, I'm one of the first to play Young Jeezy. That's Jeezy. I'll never forget the whole B and Matinga. And he's just locked the whole club down. And Young Jeezy, before he was Young Jeezy, and Fab was in the club with him too. And Meech and everybody in the club, the whole place, I'll never forget because my room was like, you got to pay a lot of money to get in that room.

1:33:29And I remember. So let's explain that. It was a big club and Khaled had a room. Everybody knew at two in the morning, go to Khaled's room, he's going to start DJing. At that point, remember Wolf, rest in peace, everybody you know from everywhere in America was trying to get in that room. And it was BMF at they prime. I never forget you playing. Hustling, hustling, hustling. I played hustling for one hour. show. Banging hours. On that wall. Kiss, what'd you say? Banging hours. I played Hustlin' Hours on the radio and Hustlin' Hours in the club for hours. One record. That Rick Ross Hustlin'. Hustlin', Hustlin'.

1:34:12Hustlin'. I'll never forget, but I remember Jeezy and the whole BMF being at Club Prevay and they hand me a vinyl, a white label, and it was Jeezy. I don't know who Jeezy was at that time. But I think Fab was there, and it was like, meet whoever these are my peoples. They always show me love and they supported all my parties. Oh no. And they're like yo I want you to play this vinyl. You know this one vinyl. Without a question these people always show me love. They come to all my parties. I'm not even. I ain't even listen to it. I went threw it on. When I tell you the whole place exploded off one play.

1:34:56off of one, the first 10 seconds of the record, the place exploded. I played at Jeezy, right? Exploded. And then Jeezy came to the DJ booth, showing me love. And he grabbed the mic and he jumped on top of the bar, the bar, and started performing that shit. And Fab started performing. And, you know, ever since that day, me and Jeezy had a relationship. But it's just, you know, back in them days, you know, we ain't have the Instagram and Twitter and all that shit. So it was about you going city to city, but it was also about building a relationship, but making these moments that people would never forget.

1:35:39You know what I'm saying? That's what hip hop is about. Y 'all remember being at Club Puerto Rican Parade, Puerto Rican Parade in New York City. Joe took me there. I don't know what club it was, but the VIP was Glass. They had like a glass, all glass. And we all of it, it's a big pun. and Mobb Deep is performing Prodigy ripping it down I'm talking about people hanging off the speaker and then Joe and Pun come out of nowhere and perform Twins and I'm the little kid right there by the street that is watching this shit and I'm like what the fuck is this I'm watching Prodigy Mobb Deep Big Pun, Joey Crack trying to pull up and what was that Benz?

1:36:27What was it? Five on it. The Benz. They got an interview where he looks. Which one? That Benz. Yo, I'm in there. I'm on the side hanging off a speaker watching Prodigy and Mobb Dean Havoc performing Shook Ones and then Joey cracking them coming out the twins. Yo, check this out. This ain't that. that ain't this. It's cracking kiss, baby. Cal is rich. Super rich and won't give me shit. I have no choice to make some money, boy, because these guys here, I got no choice to hustle. Nah, yo, Cal, let me get one of them stones. Let me get a shot. Shout out to Abby and Co, because I call this you know, I name everything.

1:37:16I call this I couldn't make my mind up because there's so many different stones and different shapes and different cuts. Yo, Crack, there's so many different cuts. Abby and Cole. Yo, Crack, you know I call a guy, you know, Kelly, you know I call a guy Hong Kong's Mongolian. Yo, you know he's a legend. He's somewhere. He's alive. Hong Kong Mongolian. Hong Kong Mongolian. Yo, they go crazy. There's a guy, yo, Kelly, let me explain. This show has, it's, It's took a life of its own. So it's my birthday. And for my birthday, they give me a 12-pack of Diapeptis and two packs of Glizzy. Wagyu Glizzy.

1:38:02Yo, it's out of control what's going on here. But... This is a bachelor. You love this shit, right? Yeah. What's crazy is Hong Kong's Mongolia. We made this guy a household name. but they don't know that's what we do. You just gave the chain a name called We Can't Make Our Mind Up. This is called And this call called Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins. Listen man, we went topless. I'm not confused. Kiss. Kiss. Yo, this is Joe and Jada. You know what I love about the Joe and Jada show? You usually gotta chase him to do something. First of all, I'm going to be real with you. I'm going to be real with you.

1:38:51You want to get on this shit. Yo, crack. Kiss, I'm going to be real with you. This is true. On everything I love. I only can do things that's going to inspire me and motivate me. And I feel an energy that I know that God bless. When I see this show, I'm telling you, not because you're my brothers, and thank you for repping hip-hop and loving it so much. because this shit, without your guests on there, this is shit y 'all talking about and the way y 'all producers are throwing up the clips and certain songs. And the other day y 'all doing, here we go again, again. It made me immediately find a pick and throw up.

1:39:35Here we go again. Like, I'm like, yo, these guys are so on point. Yeah. And you know what? You know, I could be somebody and be like, yo, love. Or I can tell you how I feel. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm never not going to be the fan. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I got a relationship with Jada Kiss. Yeah, Joey Crack. I have a relationship with y 'all my brothers. But don't get it twisted. That's fucking Jada Kiss. That's Joey Crack. Yes, they my brothers. Yes, they got me. And I got them too. But don't get it twisted. Before I met them, these were my idols. Like, you know, I have many idols.

1:40:14You got to understand, like, this is special. And Kiss, when I see you on this show, and Joe said it perfectly in the beginning, we never got a chance to know the personality. That's right. You know, we knew about top five and straight bars coming for your neck. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? But I knew the personality because I know you as a friend. And as a brother, I could reach out to you. And we family. You know what I'm saying? But I knew the fans didn't know what I knew. I knew they didn't know what I knew yes they love you and they got you and they respect you but they didn't know what I knew and what Joe knew but guess what now they know the train is coming baby the train is coming down and the thing is that everybody watching this show know that about you and you too crap you always been somebody that gonna make people smile and entertain but exactly shit out of you.

1:41:12Exactly. Don't get twisted. A lot of these people, and no disrespect when I say this. Please no disrespect. Because you know, I know, I'm not going to say it. Yeah, listen, there's a guy. There's a comedian. I don't know his name. I keep me posting him. Can't do that. It's this dude that he be going, Fred Joe was there when Jesus met Moses. True story. I split the seat. I seen that. I split the seat. I seen that. My brother, I love everything you do. Keep doing it. You're inspiring me more to tell the most incredible stories. It's a lot of stories you ain't that's the problem. No, no, no. There's too many stories.

1:41:54It's a lot of stories we haven't heard yet. Shit just clicked and I go crazy, but thank you and everybody who's been supporting the show. My brother DJ Khaled, the one and only. Halle, Halle. In the building. That's right. I can kiss. Yeah!

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