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30:32You know, an artist that I really studied, I would have never did lean back if it wasn't for Missy. Right? I studied it because she'd be like, is that your bitch? Is that your bitch? And I was noticing because when I was coming up, I don't know if he knew, but when I was coming up, I was figuring it out. My first song was called Flow Joe, but I didn't know I already had the hit formula, but I hit it by mistake. So it's like, you got a flow, Joe. You got a guy. You got to flow, Joe. So it's the repetitiveness. So with Lean Back, I purposely, when I was making that hook, I said, lean back, lean back, lean back.

31:17Because I said, all right, I'm going to say, make it rain, make it rain, make it rain so that you can. I didn't know that coming up in the game. But I learned that from Missy. Because Missy would always make hooks like that that people could sing. A little kid could sing or whatever. She always reinvented herself. We beat y 'all to a lot of shit because we heard Eminem for the first time. Hi, my name is. Niggas was like, yo, what the fuck is that? That shit was like the aliens came down like Wimby and shit. Or, you know, him, Jay, you know, it was nothing like him and the locks when they were young.

31:57You know, the locks, da, da, da, da, da. Like, it was like that shit was. So we got the experience. a lot of things firsthand and the music I think people fiend for music more because it was way more it was not accessible like now like you have to literally go get they do a little mixtape or go get the seat out of the trunk I was there for the tape but I'm 94 so I was in the tape era but like the CD bro Jay-Z dropped the album on 9-11 bro and niggas went and bought the album in physical when the buildings came down like you know how hard is that for somebody to say oh shit They blew the buildings up.

32:35Yo, let's go buy the Jay-Z album. Yeah, it was crazy. That shit is nuts, huh? You went and bought the album, huh? You bought it on 9-11? I was in the house on 9-11, man. I was in Alaska, man. Yo, two-timer fella. You went and bought it. You was in Alaska? I was in Alaska. I remember the exact same thing. My dad's in the army, so, you know, that means, you know, war, you know. So, like, I remember sitting there and saying, and they're going to send dad. They're going to send dad. But, you know, that's very, very, very horrible, man. I remember the exact same moment that happened, but that's, you know, the city came back.

33:11My man, full flex, rest in peace. His true story, you know, now I say, you know, I'm like the forest gun of hip hop. I've been everywhere you could think of. The forest who? Forest Gump of hip hop. I've been everywhere you could think of. I was there. What's the most craziest place you've been on stage? On stage? How the fuck am I here? All the last of that. He did shows everything. I got to say Africa. There's shows I did in Africa that if there was social media today, it would break a record. It was like as far as the eye can see, human beings, nigga. I mean the buildings, the roofs, the floors, the windows, the fucking soccer.

33:56What is that? The football where you kick the feet? the field go through, niggas is on that. Niggas is on the light. Niggas is just out of control, my nigga. Like, I mean, like, where you just like, yo, this shit is unbelievable. And you ripping it down. I would say Africa. Africa. No phone. My most legendary. It was no Instagram or none of that. So it's like, you know, for one time, I would pretty much live in Africa for like two years. Meaning over here. So what happens is... You stay there a lot? You stay in Africa? I stayed a lot. I've been down to go with you. But what happened is, you could go to Equatorial Guinea, they speak nothing but Spanish.

34:37Oh, Spanish. You know, I got for the show there when I just started doing... It's beautiful, and they all speak Spanish. Yeah. The whole Africa, the whole country. It's just Spanish, yeah. When you meet the girl, it's Maria de Sman and Lesita in the middle of Africa. Yeah, that's true. Like, that's their names. Yeah, yeah. You know, me and then, and they playing salsa and shit. It's the craziest shit you ever see. I used to go there. You used to sit over there? You used to sit over there? I used to go over there. Grupo Nicho be performing me, this, that, Tito Nieves, Jose Abeto Canario on Fat Joe's The Rapper.

35:13That shit was lit every New Year's. Yeah, that's right. But the point is, I've been to some shit. You know what I'm saying? It was really, really, really, really, really. I went one time. I thought nobody was there. I went to Tanzania. that's the furthest you can go the plane gotta take a break the plane gotta take a break my nigga no the plane lands like 18 out nigga 18 hours in that shit and land in the smack in the middle you could be in Sudan nigga you don't know where to that shit bitch black and they start throwing the they put the gas in that bitch and they go another fire that's the furthest place I ever been right so I go just to describe after the whole shit.

35:58We get out. They got a bunch of trucks for us. We get the gas, the airport, and they racing. They racing like a president is here or some shit, right? So some guy's going to work. It's like six in the morning, the sun's coming up, and they almost hit him, so he backs up up, and he sees me. He's like, yo, Fat Joe, what's up? That's why I knew I was famous. When I went that fucking far away, and the first nigga at six in the morning almost got hit with the car, I was like, yo, Joey Crack, old chick. I said, oh shit, I'm famous. I'm all the way to fuck. I was fucking with yours. And so that night, I went to do the show.

36:37It was so quiet. I came out the back of the thing and I'm going around the stadium and it was like nobody. It was quiet as shit. And I made one turn, it might have been 300 ,000.

36:53You couldn't see the... I was scared. I thought I had a no show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know where I fucked what was terrible for me was Columbia. Columbia. I went to Columbia one time and my wife's Colombian and, you know, I got an ill story with that one. But, yo, the promoter wanted, yo, listen, let me tell you something. The shows was not full, my nigga. They rent the stadiums and it was like 500 people, 1 ,000 people and the shit was 20-seated weeners. that nigga was tired, my man. He was like, because he paid me a lot of money and I went out there and it didn't work. I don't know if he ain't promoted right or Fat Joe ain't big in Colombia.

37:35Latin America is Argentine. The place where they accept the most is Argentina and Chile because they do Lollapaloozas. They're already educated in Mexico too. The other day I went to I had a show in Mexico I think it was like 16 ,000 one dollar over but next to us was like a 50 ,000 arena and it was we were seeing it was My Chemical Romance two days in a row 50 ,000 bop bop Mexico they be going to I - Mexico fuck with hip hop I seen Mexico yeah yeah Mexico book yeah cause next to us they're very rap Mexico yeah I went to Colombia it was crazy because you know my family over there they probably thinking like I'm a big rap star when they showed up to the show, the nigga was just probably like, yo, what the fuck happened?

38:28The saxophone. The saxophone started to... Yo, they was looking like, yo, this nigga ain't lit. I'm like, primo! Nah, bro. This shit wasn't rocking me. I was like, so the promoter, I see him, he's screaming on the work. And so I walk in, I'm like, you know, because he spent a lot of money. I said, yo, papi, que paso? Tu sando que paso? that I want to be reventing. I want to put a bat with a gun and put it in my ass. Like this nigga was telling me he wants to put a bat up my ass with spikes and fucking rip my... I would have been gone right there. You had the money. You had the money already? He paid me the bag.

39:17The hotel's top of the line, nigga. and rich cards in the whole floor. Arenas. This nigga was tight. He took a hell, like millions. And that nigga was talking crazy to me. Like, stupid crazy. Like, yo, nigga, I'll kill you, nigga. I told you this. I said, you finished? He said, yeah. I said, man, you should go to Hollywood and write scripts. Because if you think I give a fuck about what you're saying, you got me fucked up. That nigga looked at me. He said, huh? I said, man, are you kidding? Are you there? I don't give a fuck about what you're saying, nigga. It is what it is. The craziest. Let me finish the story.

39:55The next day, we go to like Medellin. My daughter... Where was it? Bogota? Yeah, Bogota. But the next show was Medellin. All right. My daughter... This is like power. That's all I'm going to say. It's like power, the TV show. My daughter goes to school with a girl. They're best friends. Her father says, come to my house in Columbia when you're over there. We in Miami. This guy wears suits every day, nice guy. I got four cops that's my security taking me around Columbia. They stop and they go, what's the address? I say, you know, 3932. Nah, it's a mistake, Joe. I said, no, not mistake. What do you mean?

40:42That's my friend up there. No, no, no. There's no way you going to the house, baby. The nigga was Don of all Don's of Columbia. We went up there. He had million-dollar horses, Pasofinos, nigga. They was doing shows, horses. The niggas was making a suit so big, they had ladies doing the Sancocho. You know that? Them niggas, the cops stood at the bottom. They were scared to go up. The police were scared to go to the house. So I come back. I come back to the hotel. the same nigga that you're in the lobby. I said, what happened? You know Don Jose? God, you know. I'm like, oh, it's family. I'm sorry for what I'm saying.

41:32I'm sorry. I don't mean it, fuck. I don't mean it. I said, no, no, no. What happened? No, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This nigga by mistake He just, my daughter and his daughter, he happened to be there. You never know who you know. Yo, we in Miami, this guy's a bit, but anyway, he's a great guy. I'm just saying, that happened in Columbia. Let me tell you something, something I seen the other day that made me cry, that made me tear, but at the same time, I was really happy for him, but it made me sad too. I'm going to tell you what, Tito Nieves is one of the legends of all legends. Yeah, of course.

42:12like a Stevie Wonder right? Just a way to explain it to you. And he showed up with Alex Sensation in the middle of La Bella and started you saw that last week? He started performing in the middle of La Bella he doing I know he does a show I didn't see it but he does a show. And the whole good. Like Stevie Wonder decided to pull up on Harlem pull the fucking piano out and start happy like that's what happened in Puerto Rico. Tito Nieves Patti LaBelle, Stevie Wonder, whatever went to the middle of the hood and ripped it down never been seen before no sounds ever in history so I'm looking because he was like a mentor to me I love Tito and I'm looking it made me feel like for one we better appreciate Tito Nevis for two is man he getting old right and so I'm like it scared me at the same time I was happy.

43:12I was like, wow. Like, you know, one day we're going to get a phone call that the legends of all legends passed away. No, no, God forbid. God forbid. No, no, not him. No, we want everybody help. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

43:29There's a lot of old legends out, man. It's going to happen, man. It's a lot of old legends out. You know, because you think about, even in English, we think about certain legends that still here that we take for granted that if they passed away, you'd be like, yo. Yeah, 100%. How you feel getting a Latin Grammy? Man, that was a blessing. The funny thing is okay, I was down for the Grammy, right? For Benito, trying to develop. Develop, produce that? Yeah, develop. Mark Anthony's nephew? That's my little man, fam. His clothes are great. You've seen his line? I'm with. One, two, three. Yes. He's flushed.

44:13Shout out to Develop. That's my sister. So we made the song. We was nominated for the Grammy, but I had twins that same week. So in my mind, I forgot about the Grammys. So I had the twins. I think we were, they were two months in NICU because they were born prematurely. So I was just every day going to the hospital, every day waking up, going to the hospital. Yeah, real life. Yeah, real life. Real life. So I wake up and I see my Instagram flooding and my phone flooded. They say, you got a Grammy? I said, oh boy, I got a Grammy? Boom. And like, they had asked me if I wanted to go, you know, to the Grammys.

44:53I might, I could have, you know, but like, I said, nah, I can't leave my girl with the 220. that was like, it wasn't even like a thought in my head. And my mind's like, I've been out with it a few times. Like, that ain't gonna happen. And boom. But I didn't, I wouldn't you wish you had that moment? no no no nah never never those are my Grammy babies like you know I wouldn't have been in Eddie I got nominated for like six seven Grammys man I never won shit man but I don't mean anything ain't no shit bitch like a revolving door yeah you lost already alright it's okay you like the outfit my nigga I'm out of here like it's hard too like Grammy Grammy like you know when you got that you guys competing against MJ you feel me like it's just it's just sometimes we got nominated we was MJ yeah yeah and you were shocked that we lost I lost to like the black hot bees before they had the white girl like that shit was just unjust yo flag that's a flag what was the song I had like lean back this shit was number one 47 weeks the niggas came the niggas they have freestyles or something.

46:06They beat us and shit. What was the song that won? You know, the Grammys, let's listen. We love the Grammys. I want to win one this year, but I finally win. Give me an honorary, something, a button, nigga. Give me an I won the Grammy button. Give me a gold button or something. Because, yo, my man, my sister's numbered. Like, even you going to give me an honorary or not? You got to get him right. You got to get Joey right. Yeah, they got to get me right. Niggas got to give me an honorary, a makeup call. I got like two I should have won that flat out should have won like all the way up let's get it started let's get it started well that was it that would have beat it hold on hold on I'll take the flag back nah that shit get it started Disney movies still I remember I went to see my man in jail that shit played on the radio and that shit played on 1010 Winds.

47:03I was driving up to the state. Let's get it started. I put the Spanish station. Let's get it started. That's true. What? That's when you know that shit. You know what? When, rest in peace, I finally got to see the Michael Jackson movie. Fucking phenomenal. You're going to love it. Was it good? Was it good? Oh, man, you're going to love it. That's incredible. If you love Michael, you're going to love this. I'd be scared to watch Michael's stuff. so I'll be I'll be you know they be they be trying yeah that's it that's it you know you know Clive Davis rest in peace it's few news today the minute you die they start trying to throw shit on you I had to tell somebody who's a real a real dude not just a real dude we call them the loveys the nickname is the loveys and super of the realest dude and we just talking shit And he starts, hey, you hear what they trying to say about Clive Davis and this and that?

48:03I said, yo, listen, love you. And this guy is the don. I said, love you. If you wasn't talking like that while he was alive, let's not talk about him like that now. And he caught himself so fast because he's the realest of the race. He said, yo, you know what, Joe? You're right. He said, I just, I went for the hype. I said, nah, B, because, you know, we're MJ, same shit. that anybody could do. Let me tell you something. Give me the truth. And I don't want to give people ideas, but I'll tell you something. You can go with a little bag to anybody's hood. I could go right now, let's just say Nicky Jam.

48:42I can go to Boston where he was raised and pay 10 crackheads that lived up there for them to talk shit about Nicky Jam, his mother, his father, his this, and make a documentary. That's anywhere you go, brother. You go to my projects, you throw him$2 and shit a pack of chicken wings. Niggas would be like, fuck Fat Joe, he was gay, his mother's a lesbian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't go by what these people say. You got to love the person for what you love. What happened? Honorary flags. Honorary? Yeah. Jeez, man. God damn, man. My point is, they say bad shit, but you'll love the movie. If it's not like in good, you know, like, you know.

49:24You're going to love the Michael Jackson movie. It was really great. His nephew really played a hell of a role. It was really inspirational. It was really, really dope. You know, I fuck with it. You ever seen Michael Jackson concert? Nah. I never seen him live. I never met Michael Jackson. Like, I'd probably pee on myself if I saw Michael Jackson real fucking life. I should have to do something else. Huh? I should have to do something else. Like a Michael MJ concert back in the day. Fuck a concert. MJ. And anyway, you know, I sampled them. I did a song dedicated to my mother. He said, free. He cleared the sample same day.

50:00They was like, yo, Michael Jackson said he's a fan. Cleared the shit. And one day, the Maria sample I used, I couldn't fucking believe for free. That's crazy. Dr. Dre, Queen Latifah, Michael Jackson. I know they all rich. And recently, the Biggie Estate, I sampled them and they was like, yo, your money no good, Fat Joe. I don't buy the samples and stuff, too. No, I'm not. I don't know if they're going to give it to you. I'm joking. I'm joking. It's honorary old school. I'm joking. You know what I'm saying, Lottie? You might got to pay. No, but that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.

50:36That's fine. No, that was crazy. But Michael Jackson. MJ had a very much fire. I was crying. I watched his funeral. I was in Albania. I had a show in Albania. And my door must have been open. My whole time watching the funeral. I'm crying. All my friends looked at me. they thought like something like they never seen Joe Crack cry. So they looking like, oh shit. And I'm looking at MJ's feet. That was like 9-11. When they said Michael Jackson died, I pulled the truck over. Almost near Yonkers. I'm up there. I was visiting my son Ryan up there by that, what's that shit? The Sawgrass? Sawmill? Sawmill.

51:19So I'm up near there. They say that. And when I pull over and I check, Every radio station, like, there's a radio station here called 1010 Winds that they only play the news. They don't play a record. They don't even play a melody. Them niggas have Michael Jackson on. The Italian radio station, Michael, the Spanish, the did, did, did, that's it. He's done. Every fucking radio station. People didn't believe it at first. People didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. So then I start changing. then I walk in the restaurant to eat dinner after and they playing Michael Jackson in the tights. It was like

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53:01Voltaren arthritis gel, helps penetrate deep, keeps the joints moving, and Tums, ready to counterattack with fast heartburn relief. Learn how Halion can assist your game-day goals at halionassist.com. Hey, everyone. It's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I'm sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary. Massive sci-fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth. I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections.

53:47And it's like, OK, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great. Because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?

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55:52Talking about MJ, what did you guys hear and listen to when y 'all was growing up? You know, 16, 14, 15, Jada. What was y 'all on? I was on Kane and K.R.S. Rakim, LL. Only, only, only rap? Nah, nah. Also, R &B, Luther, Mike Jackson, Patti LaBelle, Stephanie Mills, The Whispers. Basically, everything, whatever my mom's listening to, became the first music that I ever heard. So, of course, definitely. That's like, that's what Jose Jose, and they know our parents listen to. I heard Spanish music, but never really enjoyed Spanish music growing up unless it was like something. No, no, but still very like, oh,

56:47that shit was ringing. But I grew up in a whole black neighborhood. so it wasn't until I went to high school that I met a Spanish dude that lived in an all Puerto Rican neighborhood. I didn't know they had the other side of it where I'm the one Spanish nigga running around. I met the one black dude running around the Spanish neighborhood. Nigga, they playing salsa all over. They got the food. I get over there and nigga's like, get papi. Get pasta. Nigga, black in it. Papi, love, pasta. I met the Fat Joe, that neighborhood over there. I'm like, oh shit, you got a black guy that talks that? Y 'all, from here, Papa, what you talking about?

57:32And so that's where I learned Hector LaVarro. Okay. And I learned all the salsa greats, the Willie Colones, all of them. That's where I learned salsa music. Because they was black. It was just, it was just - And before that was - There was no Instagram, my nigga. So it was just like, I grew up in a black neighborhood. and then I went to a place that I didn't even know exists where it's all Puerto Rican. So when I went there, they blasting salsa, my nigga. The salsa over there, it was no English over there. And when'd you meet pun? Oh, pun from my hood. That's how you got to have the Puerto Rican.

58:11No, no, I already had an album out already. I was finishing my second album. You know what? I sampled the Twins joint there. I did a joint with, I think it was Apple or Spotify. And they asked me to do a... And I tried, and I think... Yeah, we did something. I think we did something with that. Did you go on Spanish with the dead in the middle? Did you do that? No, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. You should have did that. You should have did that. You should have did that shit right. 100%. Quit gaming to the biggest. How'd you meet pun? Well, Pun, he met me. So I was like a mini star.

58:54I was on the rise, right? So if you looked at me, you was like, well, because it's Flojo. The way I do is like, you got to show me. So it's like, I had one hit in the hood. Then I'm finishing my second album. And so it was like the final day that I was finishing my album. So I go in the bodega. I come out and some niggas are rapping. And Pun's just big guy. he says yo yo yo let me rap let me rap so I'm like fuck is this nigga gonna rap about and my god he started to and then he stops and so he's going like a hundred miles per hour I think you driving a Ferrari snatch the moon out the sky and blow the sun away me and my niggas playing hardball hardcore I just I had a Lexus 400.

59:50I opened the door so fast. And I said, sit down, please. Sit in the car. Get in the car, please. So I was there behind the scenes when I saw what Puff Daddy did with Biggie. So the fact that he was dumb nice, I knew I was going to make him like a Spanish Biggie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Versace on him and all that. So I already knew, this is the guy. It works, yeah. Nigga, this is going to be the one. so he sits in the car you know we drive and he tells me his life story in about 20 minutes and then he was like yo because you know we already was a crew so Terror Squad was already had a very street presence in the Bronx and all that so he tells me so he was a real nigga that never really had a crew so when he's with me he's like yo Terror Squad they're gonna be with me like I tell them what to do I said nigga they gonna love you he said wow cause he knew what that was so he was like he was born into an army they're gonna do whatever he tell them to do and he's crazy so he was like yo I'm gonna have all these crazy niggas up under me I was like yeah and then we just became brothers right on the spot it's really weird because I come up from the streets where I never really trusted people.

1:01:18You know what I mean? Like a lot of people let me down as bad people in the streets. And the drug game was, it was the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst. Most deceptive niggas, the most manipulating niggas, the biggest lies you ever seen in your life, the this, this, this. And then I got to meet a guy who tells me his life story, vulnerable, and trustes me from the first second I meet him because the type of shit he was telling me, you don't tell another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So I'm looking at him. I'm like, yo, this nigga, he was like, yo, we're going to be brothers. And you're going to be my big brother?

1:01:54I said, yeah, I'm going to be your big brother. And we was just tight. Like, it was inseparable. Me and him, you know, inseparable. Let's in peace, punk, man. Let's in peace, punk. How did that feel to you when you was in Puerto Rico and you heard big pun for the first time and you knew he was Boricua? You know what's crazy? Like me, since, okay, I was a big, you know, I was in the States my whole life, 10 years old, came to Puerto Rico, didn't know Spanish. So I had to learn Spanish first. And then, so when I was in Puerto Rico, like I would go on vacation, I would be seeing Ettore Tito, we'd be seeing Yandel, Tego, Don, you know.

1:02:30But I didn't know about, you know, Baby Jatin Gringo, Liti Poracolo, Big Pun. I had to learn Spanish first, completely learn Spanish, and then I would go back and study, you know, okay, oh, damn, Big Pun, okay, oops, this, boom, boom. But as a kid, you know, that was different, because he was popping. I was in the States, he was popping. As for the Latinos, like, you know, for a thing, I would have to, you know, go back and listen again, but Big Pun, man, like, he always was popping because he had commercial songs, he had songs that went, like, I was in the last when you would hear Big Pun, you're feeling like, you know.

1:03:09But knowing he was Puerto Rico, I was surprised because we didn't have a lot of, like, Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican representation that would be so, you know, put the flag on my back, you know, and about it, you know, so it was, you know, you, you know, him, it was dope. You know, what's crazy is the first, I never forget the first time I, because I used to be scared to fly. Yeah, I got over that like two years ago. I was terrified. Yeah. And so I never used to go to Puerto Rico. Why we selling double platinum? You been to Borough Eagle J there? A bunch of times? A couple. DR? Yeah. Yeah, Latin America be there a lot too.

1:03:47You over? Yeah. Like five, five, five. You been to Latin America? Like, like, oh, Mexico. I'm in Mexico. Argentina. I don't really, I never really did Latin America like that. Been over a few times, bro. You know what I mean? How's your experience? You like it over there? They show me love, bro. Fuck. I said, yo, what's up? Yeh, da. Manteca yeh, da. Huh, Manteca yeh? What'd they say? Manteca yeh? Yo, that nigga crazy right here. Let me say... Yeh, da kids. Yeh, da kids? Yeh, da, ya. What'd they say? What? Yeh, da kids. Yeh, da kids, yeh, da kids. Yo, but let me ask you something. With the bodies in Puerto Rico, they never say fa.

1:04:30Papi, dime fa, yo. Me dicen, oye fa. Why do you never say Fah Joe? No, yo, never in my life. Oh, yes, Fah. Never say Fah Joe. My name is Fah. Yeah, Fah, Fah. Nobody ever says Fah Joe. They be doing that too. They be doing Fah, Fah. Dimmelo Fah. Fah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy, but... With me, you know, I've seen... You know, I don't want to repeat myself, but I've seen like the birth. I remember I went to Orchard Beach one day. Right. So every Sunday we would go to Orchard Beach and there was a guy standing there. He had all these chains on. And they was like, yo, that's that's the Puerto Rican rap.

1:05:20He's the nigga. I was like, really? From Puerto Rico? It was Vico C. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Vico C was in Orchard Beach with a bunch of chains on. And he was that nigga. He was like a jade kiss over there. And over here... Yeah, Vigo, Vigo, Vigo, Vigo's dope. If you came over here, I seen him before I even rapped. Like, I seen him... He really helped, you know, make Puerto Rican rap, you know, more worldwide. Yeah, Vigo's probably one of the first ones. He's original. I wasn't swimming. He was a swimmer before. Yeah, I was a pro swimmer. Bro. I was too good at the wrong sport and made no money. Swimming don't make no money.

1:06:00Have you ever been to a swim meet in your life? I never heard of a swimmer hosting a club. For free. I never heard of a swimmer hosting a club. Y 'all swimmer hosting. Only swimmer making bread is Michael Phelps. He got that endorsement money. But it does help you be more disciplined, being good. Swimming is a very tough sport. It requires physical, mental. You train like seven hours a day, probably. You're doing it out. Puerto Rico, we always fucked up. He always shows the wrong shit. So in the hood, the black kids are fucking playing ball. They get money. We playing handball, my nigga. We can't get no money on handball.

1:06:43And Puerto Rico is like no able. They balling now. Our three sports is baseball, basketball, and boxing. You can make bread, even if you don't make that. Big bread. There's other leagues. Baseball, boxing, yeah. But in New York, we play handball. Niggas ain't getting no money in handball. Motherfucker Duncan get money. They this, that. They got the rucker. They got that. That's funny. My dad lived here a lot. Handball sports. Yeah, my dad played that. Handball? Yeah, handball. I fucking loved it. My Uncle Willie was a... Everyone's a handball master. Handball artist. Your Uncle Will, come on. Every time I talk about him, he's some scandalous shit.

1:07:21Uncle Will, I love you to death. Uncle Will was so good at handball. He would go to Brooklyn, Queens, and lose two games for$50 and then play the nigga for five. Or a genius. Sir. Uncle Will. Who is the same, man? I only seen him lose one time. Like a real, he tried to win. And the motherfucker, some white dude out in Queens beat him for the bat. There was a bigger scammer than him. Yeah, yeah, man. Another one. And then Uncle Will, every Saturday and Sunday, we'll go Queens, Brooklyn, the Bronx. He would go wherever. And they used to bet$500 in handboy. He used to bust they ass. That was actually part of his job.

1:08:05500 bucks, hang by five bucks. No, I'm going out there to beat a nigga to, I'll bring back home 300. You know, back in them days, nobody believes me, but you did compara with$2. If you went$150, shit like that, that was big. I remember one time they almost fucked us up because they knew the fix was in. He lost two on purpose, hit a nigga for like 300. He beat him so bad. Joey, run. Get the money, run. Get the money, run, Joey. Go, go, go, go. Yeah, yeah, they chasing us off the fuck. They all fucked you up. Get the bucket. Get the bucket. No, I'm telling you. That shit was crazy. Uncle Will was dead nice and handball.

1:08:41For all the real ones out there, we keeping it 1800. What's in the future for you, man? What you working on? Man, we got, we just dropped, you know, Corsa. We dropped a different album. I got the trap song, got the rap songs. We got a freestyle joint that's going crazy right now. Freestyle? Yeah, freestyle. like Judy Torres yeah freestyle it's fine smart yeah I said man the last time I heard someone do that on the line I've been like a good two years trying to get the perfect because to do that it's not the same thing like a rap you know you gotta really like lock into it like with me Anita okay and Khaled and sample Stevie B okay okay and so we I tried that it's dope but the freestyle is going hard it's one of the like the most hardest songs on the album.

1:09:29We got the Deluxe coming soon.

1:09:34Netflix. Blow Dig for Corsa. Yo, why niggas gotta get that? Y 'all niggas gotta get that, Steve. Salud, salud, salud. 1800, Corsa. I'm gonna drop a couple more projects to you. Ray Mercer. Boom in the chest. Ray Mercer. That's a hit, boy. I'm going to drop a few more joints this year. I got some more American collabs, trying to keep on building that bridge. I like that. Yeah, I think it's all about doing the correct collab. You got collabs that work, collabs that don't. I love the joint with you and Future. Was it originally your song first? Yeah. Did it remake? I dropped that first. It went crazy.

1:10:21That shit's stupid. And I said, man, we got opportunities. My team said, yo, we got opportunities for Future, which you guys, hey, we're doing Mbappé. that's one of the songs and he gave me Mbappé Mbappé the saga Mbappé you know it's my neighbor in Miami he lives in my building he's killing him in this Hindu he's my guy fire fire that's the home he lives in my building my man in his he be with his family his wife is a good friend she's nice he lives in my building the African he has a white wife with blue eyes he got a great way he wears Not a girlfriend, not the one I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about, I got a whole family.

1:11:01Maybe I'm blowing them up. Is that Messi? I'm Messi. The black dude, he got 100 million followers. He's killing them niggas. Rich keeps saying, yo, your man hit another one. He lives in my building, guys. Okay, yeah. In Miami. I think it was Mbappé. Right. He's in France, probably. He's French. He's African-French, yes.

1:11:28find a soccer player that lives in he got kidnapped the one I'm talking about told me the whole story he got kidnapped by his own brother in Africa who? you know it's my name okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

1:11:53and they're killing him right now. No, but he a beast. That's my guy. Yeah, Pogba's a beast. That's, that's, that's. What are you talking about? He told me all, they kidnapped him. He hooping, he hooping, he hooping. I ain't the only nigga got kidnapped in Africa. They kidnapped him. His own brother. You heard of this? Kidnapped him? Yes. Shout out to Pogba. Shout out to Pogba and Killian. Him, my man. That's a hooper. Listen, my building in Miami. That's a hooper. That's a hooper. he's a hooper right yeah he go crazy you know I don't know nothing about football soccer and all I know is every time I see him everybody be bugging like yo that nigga's a nigga yo he's I'm like but I don't know you know what I'm saying so what you want me to do he's just the nicest guy in the world his wife's the nicest lady the kids are beautiful beautiful family I hung out with him a bunch of times on the yacht everything I hung out with him damn I don't even know his name what's his name Pogba, Pogba, Pogba.

1:12:50Holba. Yeah. Holba's a good guy.

1:12:56What team he played for? I hope he didn't call Mbappe on the vote. He's playing for French? Oh, no, he's not playing now? Well, why Rich is telling me, um... Oh, so that's the wrong nigga. The guy I'm talking about... The guy I'm talking about is still killing. He got contracted by my mom again. Why not too long ago? Oh, he ain't killing him like that no more. Something steroids or something. And then now that he came back, he ain't got the fluidity like that. Wow. Yes. Well, Rich is lying to me. Rich keep telling me, your man is killing me. Show me a nigga making a kill. He be lying to me. Yo, your man's World Cup killing them niggas right there.

1:13:41Maybe he's confused. He thought he saw Mbappe. World Cup. any team in the world. It don't got to be front row. It don't got to be nothing, but I need them, though. Okay, thank you, brother. You need to go. It's right here, right? Yeah. You need to experience at least one game, bro. That's the story, bro. You know, I got a jersey. I don't even know who's here for me. You never been to a soccer game? You never been to a soccer game? I want to go to one. Hey, just know there's no... You're never going to see in a basket. Maybe... I can't even say. Not even, like, the Knicks. There's a basket. Not even not in basketball.

1:14:13That's, like, where the real, like boys, fans. You get fucked up. It's crazy. It's crazy. Let me tell you where the only place on earth I experienced that was the UM championship game where half the crowd was the other college. Half the crowd was that shit. Oh, but college, yeah. College, yeah. College basketball. No, no, the football. College football, yeah, yeah. No, I'm in there. It was like a 70, you was with us that night. That shit was good. I've never been to that. Yeah. Like, where half the crowd is half the crowd. They going for everything. That shit, that was exciting. But that's how soccer is.

1:14:50Like, the Argentina-Columbia game or one of those joints, that's... You know, just remember, like, there's a lot of those people that, like, that are here in the U.S. that haven't been back home in a while. So they be going there, like... No, they ain't going crazy. That's, like, a piece of... I bought a jersey, a fly fucking soccer. I don't know what team. And I bought some sneakers to match it, and I'm going to wear that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to rock that fight. I got to just win. You got to rock that fight. For the people one time. You know what I'm saying? Real Cup, man. Real Cup tracks.

1:15:21All right, it's time. Yo, check this out. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's Crack and Kiss. God damn it. Give it up. And let you go. Oh, yeah, fire. It's going to fire. It's going to fire. All right.

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