In short
Eve discusses her life and career—working through industry setbacks (including being dropped from Dr. Dre/Interscope), joining Rough Riders, and sustaining her music legacy—while also sharing tour experiences in the UK/Europe, nostalgia for pre-streaming music, and personal stories (marriage, motherhood, flying anxiety, and DMX memories). She also talks about how women in hip-hop get less credit, and which newer artists may have long-term sustainability.
Guests
Eve (rapper/singer; Rough Riders/Aftermath-era artist; Philly-to-UK life; mother of a young son; married to a white husband). No other guest is interviewed; the hosts are Joe and Jada (Joe Crack the Dawn / Joe and Jada Show).
Key claims
She says she “saved herself” financially and works because she loves the craft and wants to bring her son on the road. She claims her Rough Riders entry had no issues (“fit like Tetris”). She argues streaming changed music consumption, and that only some newer female rappers will last.
Notable examples
Tour lineup mentions Chingy, Love & Gene, Ja Rule, and Nelly. Flying story includes a North Dakota show with Bow Wow. DMX tribute and “hanging out in cars/windows” anecdotes. Mentions Prince, Michael Jackson, Luther Vandross, and the Lox verses.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCasual Banter and Personal Updates
1:26 to 1:53
Light-hearted conversation about life, recent activities, and friendship.
“Some people use ChatGPT to answer questions.”
Casual Banter and Personal Updates
3:03 to 4:25
Light-hearted conversation about life, recent activities, and friendship.
“Without no further ado, we got my sister on today's episode.”
Eve's Life and Career Insights
4:25 to 7:24
Eve shares updates on motherhood, marriage, and her work ethic.
“I mean, I got crack ready to go into a fine day.”
Discussion on Perceptions and Reality
7:24 to 10:54
The hosts and Eve discuss perceptions about wealth and relationships.
“You got a lot after you get out of a bank account.”
Cultural Differences and Music Scene
10:54 to 13:14
Eve talks about her experiences moving to the UK and the local rap scene.
“But are the UK rap scene as big out there?”
Tour Experience and Nostalgia
13:14 to 14:00
Eve discusses her current tour and the nostalgic vibes of the music.
“You gotta say what you - Nah, that's Oscar Geller.”
The Nostalgia of Touring
14:00 to 15:10
Explore the emotional connection of performing nostalgic hits during a tour.
“She just stopped when she wanted to stop.”
Flight Fears and North Dakota Adventures
15:10 to 17:10
A humorous recounting of flying fears and unexpected experiences in North Dakota.
“You felt like somebody was making you do it.”
The Evolution of Reality in Hollywood
17:10 to 19:00
Discussing the transition from acting to production and the value of past achievements.
“When I looked at him, the flight, he was texting.”
The Dynamics of Being in Rough Riders
19:00 to 20:10
Insights on the positive experiences and camaraderie in the music industry.
“When they bought her, they already had like an itinerary of what they had planned for.”
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Navigating Fame and Personal Growth
20:10 to 22:30
Reflections on fame, personal development, and family life amidst public scrutiny.
“You better stop fucking with my leg, girl.”
The Price of Fame
22:30 to 23:38
A poignant discussion on the challenges of maintaining sanity and success in the spotlight.
“Oh, man, I only get to see him on social media and you ain't bring him to see Uncle Cash when he come to America.”
Navigating Fame and Personal Growth
25:27 to 26:56
Reflections on fame, personal development, and family life amidst public scrutiny.
“ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.”
Navigating Fame and Personal Growth
27:01 to 27:29
Reflections on fame, personal development, and family life amidst public scrutiny.
“Any game you can find on the floor in Vegas, you can play it on Moto.”
Future Music Projects and Cultural Impact
27:29 to 28:00
Discussion on upcoming musical projects and the cultural significance of artists.
The Culture of Hip Hop and Recognition
28:00 to 29:16
A discussion about the contributions of women in hip hop and the need for recognition.
“I'm like somebody that come from where we come from, the cloth.”
Paying Respects to Legends
29:16 to 30:31
Reflecting on the importance of honoring those who have passed in the hip hop community.
“I feel like I got to tell these people all the time, because these people, I'm alive.”
Human Connection in Fame
30:31 to 32:15
Exploring the challenges of maintaining human connections amidst fame and success.
“So everybody was out there, But, you know, I feel like that's something, you know, we got to always pay respects to, you know, the people who made us happy on Earth.”
The Challenges of Acting vs. Rapping
32:15 to 36:41
A conversation about the differences between the acting and music worlds, focusing on creative freedom and production constraints.
“They took him away from human beings now.”
The Evolution of Music Consumption
36:41 to 41:44
Discussing the transition from physical music formats to digital streaming and its impact on music appreciation.
“I went to the lady that I don't think this is for me.”
Cultural Preservation vs. Commercial Success
41:44 to 42:00
A debate about the motivations of today's artists and the importance of preserving hip hop culture.
“You know, my brother Diamond D who discovered me, they be playing 45, like, instrumentals, right?”
The Evolution of Music Appreciation
42:00 to 48:20
Explore the changing landscape of music appreciation and cultural respect among artists.
“And there's people standing there, right?”
Nostalgia and Missed Opportunities with Icons
48:20 to 49:56
Reflect on missed chances to meet legendary musicians like DMX and Prince.
“Do you got any DMX stories we might have never heard?”
Food and Fun: The Cheesesteak Debate
49:56 to 55:50
A light-hearted discussion about the best cheesesteaks and favorite spots in Philly.
“Like I said, I got four outfits in the thing.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Yo, you know what's crazy, man? It's hip-hop fans will argue about anything. I'm talking best rapper live, best era, best album, but nobody gets started on best verse. Don't even get me started on best verse. That's a fact. And now Sprite got y 'all debating something new. It's called the Sprite Living Tracklist 50 Records That Really Shaped the Culture. That's crazy. We talking legends, we talking icons, and yeah, new artists carrying the torch right now. present day. But it ain't just songs, though. It's the stories behind them. The lyrics, the moments, what those records meant when they hit.
0:37Yo, go check out the full Sprite Living Tracklist and get into the stories behind your favorite bars. I like that. At livingtracklist.genius.com This is the Sprite Living Tracklist. Obey your thirst.
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2:29My shoulder hurt from leaning back. I'm trying to tell you the truth. Why nobody feels sorry for me? Lean back, lean back. It always hurts. You see what I got to deal with? Yes. Oh, my God. This guy's crazy.
2:55What up, y 'all? This is Joe Cracked the Dawn. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Without no further ado, we got my sister on today's episode. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for the lovely Evie Eve. What's up? What's up, y 'all? Thank y 'all for having me. Yo, Eve, what's good, girl? I'm chilling. Thank y 'all for having me. Thank you for showing up. Of course. You know what I mean? Of course. We've been having a little bit of discrepancy. Everybody's going to show up on top. Yeah. I don't know of his tardiness. I don't know of his hate. But we've been having a little bit of, they don't realize the privilege of the blue couch.
3:39You know what I mean? No, I'm happy to be here. We appreciate you so kindly. Well, I think we got to set up some. If you missed Jo and Jada. She's a billionaire, right? Crack, wait a minute. Hold on. Wait a minute. What are you talking about? Can we do this? Can we? Can you slow down? Yes. I'm not my shit. Why are we starting there? Slow down. Why are we starting? Where are you? What's happening? Don't let them down. Slow down. Hold on. We got to invent something for when they miss our show. It got to be six months to a year before you can even. We got to go David Stern. This is a privilege. Y 'all getting real today.
4:18He got that chronic in the street. I'm straight off the Caribbean. I mean, I'm off the Caribbean. How was vacation, man? We going to get into that. We got a guest here. So, ladies and gentlemen, we got Eve. I mean, I got crack ready to go into a fine day. We're not going to do that. Oh, my God. How's life? Life's good. Life's good. I'm happy. How's motherhood? How's marriage? Motherhood's great. Marriage is great. When are y 'all going to invite us to one of them races? Come, please come. It's in America next year. Definitely. Could you think about it? Miami to Mexico City, you should do it. Nah, hold me on.
5:01Nah, 100%. And what they drive all the way to Mexico City? Yeah. Yep, drive all the way. He's my business. Don't talk to him about no money without me. No, it's no money. What you talking about? Do you want to get involved? Don't talk about you want to talk. If you got a check there. Ain't no money. It's no check. You slide that shit over here. What is we talking about? This guy's crazy. Jesus. It's a nice drive. It's a nice drive. What do they drive? Whatever you want. Whatever you want. Whatever you want. Some people do supercars. Some people do. It's literally whatever you want. Like some people into buses.
5:36It doesn't matter. Some people enter with their drivers. Like, it's up to whatever. Whatever experience you want is whatever. Yeah. Remember Smokey and the Bandit? It's like that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's a good way to say it, actually. Okay. So now being that you're a billionaire. Oh, my God. Where did you get this information? I am not. I am not. You know, I dress rehearsed like four or five times today. It was in my closet with my stylist because I'm like, yo, she's a billy coming up in this shit. Oh, my God. And I took it light. I got the mean shit in the thing. I said, finally, I said, you know what?
6:10I know Eve too long. I ain't got a stunt like that, even though she a billy and all that. Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? Where's this coming from? Because I was coming billy-proof. Like, you know, I was coming up with that. Yes, yes. With that other shit. You know what I'm saying? This guy's nuts, y 'all. And so... Is there a question behind... What's the question behind it? No, it's just the billy. We should just throw the bikes down now, right? We should just... But I wonder why you still work as hard because you're on tour. Yes. Right? Yes. What's wrong with work? You sold a catalog for a lot.
6:42What's wrong with work? What's wrong? Don't believe it. First of all, we all in the same game, right? We're all in the same business. Don't believe everything you read, which is why I'm here. We can't ask questions. Don't believe everything you read. First of all, I'm going to work because I love the work. I've always worked. Passionate about it. Like, period, point blank. You can't never take that away. You want to get out the house? I want to see. I want both. I want to see the fans. I shit like a Saint silent when I'm up in there for two days. I want to see the fans. I want to get out the house and I want to take my son on the road.
7:14My son is with me on the road. That's fire. You know what I mean? So why not do the thing that I love and show my son what his mother does and who she is? Besides being just his mother. Wow. You know what I mean? That was beautiful. Yeah. Any questions you got so much. You got a lot after you get out of a bank account. Because I know what the streets want to know. Please, Jesus. They want to know. I know what the streets want to know. I'm outside. Yo, I'm outside, B. I know what they want to know. They sitting there, they say, damn, Eve come from Philly. Yes, all day. She paid her dues. She come all the way from the bottom.
7:44Now she in the UK across the pond. Her man, the alleged Billy. He's not. Well, that's the shit they were saying. They want to hear her say. They're not. He's not. I never said it. That's perception. That's a perception. Some people just making shit up. People just making shit up. Not you. Exactly. No, no, no, my shit factual. She's telling you it's factual. It's not, though. It's not factual. No, no, no, no. I don't know factually if he's a Billy. That's what he said. I just let him stop. He's not factual. The facts. The facts are coming from me. It don't hurt. Let me ask you another question.
8:20Yes. Your husband, he's white. He's Caucasian. Yes. You ever had, like, whenever we watch these Tyler Perry movies, what's the matter? What am I saying wrong? I don't know what you're about to say. You know the Tyler Perry movie when they have Christmas and they bring the white boyfriend and everybody looking at him like he's crazy. You know these movies? It's a movie. So all your questions so far are based off of non-factual information and Tyler Perry movies. Where am I? What's going on? Let me tell you, Sa 'i, I just shoot the shit. I come off the top. I'm shooting the shit. It's on the street.
8:56You want to start the interview? You want to know if it was I'll be over here listening to this. It's like, guess who's coming to dinner? Yes. Was it uncomfortable? Was it uncomfortable? No, it wasn't. Because when, which made me fall in love with him even more. Because when I brought him home to the hood, he was good. And he's fine. And he loves it. Everybody was good. Because they saw how he treated me. And they saw that he wasn't tripping. I couldn't be with somebody who would be uncomfortable around where I come from. My brother's right over there. He's good, right? He's good. Of course he's good.
9:28He's a fucking Billy. He's not. We just, we just, we just. Yo, listen, let me tell you something. You coming from the trenches of Philly and moving to the UK. I mean, before you lived in New York, Cali. No, it's different. It was definitely different. I wasn't adjusting. Yeah, it was hard. It still kind of is. I love, I consider it home now. I've been there 11 years now. Oh, yeah. So I consider it home. My son was going there. I consider it home. But it is very different. So when I come back to America, like New York or Philly, it does, it feels like home. It's definitely adjustment. They're different over there.
10:07They're different. But it's dope. It's a dope city. 11 years. Over there, you got to learn how to fight with a knife. There ain't guns out there like that. You got to start in him. You got to bring him a machete. It's a lot of knife crime. It is. Yeah. It is. You got to bring him a machete out. They do a lot of honking over there. They do. That's real. That's real. But I mean, it's a good time to be, you know, the UK rap scene is biggest it ever been. There you go. Always ready. Yo! I'm ready. Yo! I'm ready. Yo! I'm ready. He's ready. I got to have this for you talking crazy. You need something out there.
10:42Yeah, I got to hold you down. Jesus Christ. Rich, I got to hold. Might take long for you and MacGyver to reach us. Oh my god. I got to hear something from my guy. But are the UK rap scene as big out there? Yeah, it is. It is. It's dope. I think they finally found their thing. Because I think, yeah. So I think years ago, they tried to emulate and copy what America does as the blueprint. And it didn't sound right. And now I feel like they definitely in the pocket. They sound good. Yeah, it's great. It's great. How's the tour going? The tour is good so far. We've only done how many shows? Three. Four.
11:21We've done four shows. We've done four shows. overseas though. I did Europe first. Yeah. You know, I'm thinking like why this rich girl is on this? Because I like money. I like checks. So if there's, I wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't a check involved. I wouldn't be doing it if the check wasn't right. So, you know what I mean? It's okay. Can I ask you a question? Why do people think, that's the problem I feel like I got with the perception of my life, that I married this person. Like, first of all, nobody ever saved me. I saved myself. Can I be finished? I get my own money. But I'm just saying, the perception also, though, is as a woman, so what?
12:01Like, if I want to stop working, my man wouldn't care. But why would I do something that I love? Like, why? You know what I mean? Because I think it's just me. No, no, I'm trying to find a way for me not to work no more. I swear to God. No, but I understand that. I understand that. I really believe that I'm trying to find a way to go. Can I ask you a question? But also, I think, ultimately. What's up? We could crack the bank, man. We ain't going to never be able to stop working no matter what happens. You know that. That's why Rich is over there setting up some money right now. We selling hair product, rum, weed, everything.
12:44How not? I want to chill. So I'm letting y 'all know. Fat Joe want to chill, come see me Bahamas eating a mango with a bikini shit on like this. What? Wait, wait, wait. Wait, I think you might have said maybe you said the wrong Yeah, yeah. I don't mean the bikini. He know I don't mean the bikini. Maybe you said, yeah. You might have said the wrong Yeah. You can't say the wrong. Listen, bro. You gotta say what you - Nah, that's Oscar Geller. Oh man, Glizzy's Bikini's. No, but listen. Come on. No, no, no, no. Glizzy's in Bikini's. I met my lady in the bikini. Ooh, you might need to open up a little hot.
13:26Glizzy's in Bikini. Glizzy's in Bikini. Me in my little shorts, but I want y 'all to come and see me eating a mango for no reason. When you pull up, they be like, fuck, Joe live here. When you come, I'm in a bank with a fucking mango. Why can't all the years - Can you pick another fruit? My shoulder hurt from leaning back. Why can't it be an apple? Stop it. I'm trying to tell you the truth. Why nobody feels sorry for me? Lean back, lean back. It always hurts. I lean back too much. You see what I got to deal with? Yes. Oh, my God. This guy's crazy. How long is the tour going to be for? I'm finished in August.
14:03They go on until like mid-September. See, that's the flex right there. She just stopped when she wanted to stop. Yeah, yeah. Who else is on the tour? Chingy. Chingy starts. I go then. Love Gene. Yeah, nah, he's killing it. Ja, then Nelly. I mean, it's hits the whole time. Like, literally, it's hits the whole time. It's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. Nah, that's a fun, it's, you know, it's a fun thing when you already know the arena sold out. The vibes is there. Everybody coming, because music is so, I want to say a fancy word, but I don't, synonymous to something. is just with a time that, you know, girls got their first boyfriend to your music, this, that, and when you in there, you just feel like...
14:50No, yeah, we taking people back. It's definitely nostalgic. It's definitely nostalgic, and I think, obviously, because we're older, we've done it. Like, we're all happy to be there. You can tell. We're all happy to be there. We're not here by choice, by force. Right, exactly. The different kind of fluidity when you go out there from back in the days when you had to do it. You felt like somebody was making you do it. Yeah. Again, that's another reason why I'm working, if that was about to come up. Nah, it's fun because I just recently did a big show where it was me, Ross, Bow Wow, and Soulja Boy.
15:28Oh, dope. And so I don't know if you know I'm afraid to fly, even though I fly three, four. What? I didn't know that. It was a time I ain't fly for 15 years, but the only guy more scared than me historically was Bow Wow. We went on tour together and the man was sitting there. Bow Wow bugged out. Y 'all think I'm bugged out? He all the way fried, right? So he come sit next to me on purpose in the plane. So we feel a bump. He like, oh, like trying to out scare me. Not out scare. Out scare me on the plane. Like, bro, I'm fucking terrified. You can't out scare me on this plane, right? So I go like this.
16:03So we going to North Dakota. I don't know about you. I've never been in North Dakota. Not in 30 years of rapping. I think I've been there once. So I've never been there, right? So Bow Wow's DMing me. Yo, son, North Dakota, what we gonna do? This, that. You got the private. You got the this. Are we out the same night? So he was giving me like, yo, are we getting the fuck out of here immediately after this show? I'll check in with you with the plane. Like, let's get it. It was the nicest place, the greatest fans. They treated us great. We went to a restaurant for dinner. They paid for all our stakes.
16:36These was the nicest people. Great. Greatest sunset. I'm being honest. North Dakota, we love you. It was beautiful. How about you got to take? There's no way. If you don't go private, there's no way. Go straight to North Dakota. So we got to fly to Minnesota. Then we got to take the little plane to North Dakota. There's nowhere around it. Listen, how about I know premeditated. He told me four days ahead and I was stressed out every day just thinking about the little plane. because I'm not cool with privates. I'm not cool with no little plane. How about when I pull up to the little plane, front row sitting right next to me is Little Bow Wow.
17:13He got it. I said, what the fuck is this about? Like, why you got to sit there? Yo, Bow Wow, what's good? Yo, yo, Joe, North Dakota. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I had to sit next to him. When I looked at him, the flight, he was texting. He was on his phone. I was listening to music. We landed. As soon as we landed, I said, yo, bro, he said, yo, you got much better at flying. I said, you got much better at flying. Oh, my God. But North Dakota. North Dakota. Shout out to North Dakota. I never been. So now I want to go. You got North. It's beautiful. 1030 at night is still a sunset. Oh, 1030 at night, 1030 p.m.
17:50They still had the sun. The weather's hot. It was beautiful. Everything was nice out there. So he's like, that's why you can't judge a book by its cover. Like I was like, damn, what's in North Dakota? Because we never been out there. What's up with acting? You going to do anything? What you got? No, not right now. Not right now. And if I did go back, I kind of want to go back from the other side of the camera, like production. I can see that. Yeah. I like that side. I like that side. You had your own sitcom. How'd I feel to be able to flex that many years? I don't think I even, I don't think we realized what that was back then.
18:25That's what I was about to say. I don't, I, no. Now I think about it. You was doing shit way before you was doing big. That was crazy. I know. I know. I didn't think about it back then. That was crazy. Now you're looking at you like, yo, you said your baby, yo, you know, mommy had her own show. Yeah, you could put it on TV1 and let them look at some old episodes. Yeah, it is crazy. Now the dynamic with you being the first lady of Rough Rider and all that. What was that like when they came to you and they said, yo, we signing this girl. Her name is Eve from Philly. Did you hear of her first? Or did they just brought her on you?
19:03When they bought her, they already had like an itinerary of what they had planned for. And then she came from Dre. So any affiliation with Dre is like a plus for you anyway. But I think I was... It was never no issues though. She hit the, she, she fit just like Tetris. Yeah. She, she connected right with her. She was just a female. Yeah. It was never. Ever. It was never, ever anything ever. Yeah, 100%. So you grew up with a bunch of guys? I was a tomboy. Like I always was a tomboy. So I always felt comfortable around dudes. And, but they, everybody like was great. Like I always say, I, I, I think I was the luckiest, like female, like in the industry being around.
19:51Definitely the luckiest female in the industry. But, you know, Remy, she got lucky, too. She did. You know what I'm saying? Like, she's our sister still to this day. Of course. Definitely. And we family. Her daughter's my goddaughter. We always treated her with nothing but respect. But she's also a girl that grew up with a bunch of boys and was just right at home. Her leg look like it's getting strong. You better stop fucking with my leg, girl. Let me tell you something. What is this, dude? You want to know what's crazy? I'm at my store. What? Nah, they think I got the stinky leg, but it's OK.
20:24What? What happened? My shit fly. Yo, what? Yo, Eve. Yo, Eve, I'm not letting him. He's cheating his leg like a shirt. Yo, listen, let me tell you something. I'm just looking at the calf. He's looking nice. That is awesome. I don't know what's happening. I get this from the streets. Look at that, Eve. It looks good. It's my business partner. Listen, I don't know what's going on. You might can touch the rim, God. I don't know. Listen, they make fun of my legs. Why? These is rich fucking legs. They look rich. This shit just shiny all the time. This shit up into the Baltic Sea. Fucking royal weddings in Dubai.
20:55Like, there's some real... They wish they had my legs. You could be cock diesel legs. You wish you had this type of shit. We walk with God, the squad, and T-Roy. Don't let them tell you... Not the Baltic Sea. All I did was give them a compliment. Your calf is looking... It's looking like he was doing some calf. Yo, I was trying to explain to him. I said, yo, listen, these, you wish you had these legs. I'm going to be honest with you guys. If you could have seen the shit these legs have seen or go through, this ain't the type of, this ain't what you want, bro. They look great to me. Thank you. They look great.
21:42You know, your man, your man's in the eyes, Jada. I tell Jada, I say, Jada, I'm trying to get you 100 million. He say, yo, I'm trying to keep you out that insane asylum. You're going crazy up here, bro. What's wrong with you? That really, that touched me. When I watched the repeat. When you thought about it. I say, yo, this guy's, we think about not to bring it up, and let's take, like, somebody in our real life, Wendy Williams, who was a powerhouse media. That's real. They really gassed it like she's crazy. and took her bread? She had about$100 million, bro, owning productions and a TV show and all that.
22:21It's like they done it to somebody. So you might be saving me. It's doable. I ain't going to let them talk to you, baby. You might be saving me from that scene asylum. It's real. How old is your son? Three. Oh, man, I only get to see him on social media and you ain't bring him to see Uncle Cash when he come to America. He's here, though. I got to see him before y 'all get out of here, man. Well, yeah, we here. You know what I'm saying? He's three years old. He's three. Man, that's amazing, man. They grow up so fast. Too fast. My daughter, my youngest, she's 19. My oldest is over there. Look, same stuff to eight.
22:56I was just having them in the rough Friday day. He thinks we're crazy, too. He thinks y 'all crazy, too? Of course. Yeah. He thinks we all the way crazy. He's like, yo, I'm going to wait till this train self-destruct. This is like, yo, fat Joe, he's crazy. I think you, you still safe. Like people don't think you crazy Like you've been up there No no no no I'm saying if we cancel Hold up hold up If we cancel the show today You would still walk out of here the same Jadakus I am the Cap King A liar A story evangelist What's happening I done sacrificed Is this what people saying about you We got the most lit show in the game I know why you think I'm here I know sis but what you gotta understand is You remember people, as much people would love Floyd Mayweather, half of them hated.
23:48They want to see him get knocked out, but he had that defense, that shoulder run. So these guys, they want to see Joe Crack self-destruct from all these. But when I tell them I'm the guard Crack Kim, I will show them a picture of me 15 years old with the Kofi on. And then if you swipe left, I got the Metra. Just so you know, he might have robbed the gym. You know, my shit come with receipts, but it sounds like, yo, this guy's going crazy. Fat Joe is losing his mind. You know, I almost wore the royal blue hat for the cat.
24:26Yo, I was scrolling through the Sprite living track list the other day and immediately started arguing with myself. Arguing with yourself? I'm serious. It was wild because records like California Love, Still Not a Player, back then, those aren't just songs. Nah, those are moments, memories, snapshots of where hip-hop was and where it's going. Exactly, and that's what Sprite gets. They spent over 40 years celebrating artists who really defined the culture. And now they flipping it, letting the fans be part of the conversation. Which is where it gets interesting, because the real debate is why. Like, why did that song matter?
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25:06Why did that line hit? Why did it change hip-hop forever? I can't promise you we got the answers. But you're definitely gonna have a good time figuring it out. Go check out Full Sprite Living Tracklist. And break down the stories behind your favorite bars. At livingtracklist.genius.com. This is the Sprite Living Tracklist. Obey your thirst.
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27:36Any more music coming? No, not right now. Not right now. No, I'm kind of getting more into it. I'm feeling it a little bit more. Especially being on the tour. Because I like to work. Not that you have Listen Eve I'm not taking Nothing from you I'm just putting Let me tell you how You forced an answer I don't know what I'm saying No Forced it I got off the Vulnerable position Like I'm forced to ask Let me tell you about me Whether I see you Tell us about me Hold up Whether I see you Every day Or I don't Even if it's Kat When I hear stuff like that I am so happy for you. I'm like somebody that come from where we come from, the cloth.
28:23But shouldn't you be? Can I say? What about what she did? You don't want me to be happy for you. What about what she did? You don't want me to be happy for you. No, but she did for the culture. Thank you. I know what you did for the culture. But shouldn't you? That's why you should be happy for me. That's what you should be happy for you. But what I'm also saying is that's one of my questions right there. Right? Do you feel like, because whenever they start this, girls in hip hop or women in hip hop. Yeah. Like, I don't feel like you get the credit you deserve. Yeah. And you touched all that Gwen Stefani.
28:56You touched a lot of shit. Yeah, because when she know what she did and what she does and how she contributed, she don't got to do the own on. You know, it's amazing that you have... That's exactly how I feel. I literally said this the other day. We from the same family. I know. I know. Because he know this, but I got to reiterate it to him. She know, they know. Exactly what he said. Exactly what. Who's that girl? What Jada said, yeah. Hello? Yeah. And she's from the trenches. Yes. She didn't come up. That's why I don't think about it. Silver spoon. I don't. I honestly don't even think about it.
29:30I really don't. You just be like, I am why. Because you can't take away. Can't erase what you did. You can't take away what I did. I know what I've done. I feel like I got to tell these people all the time, because these people, I'm alive. I'm alive. Yo, look, I'm alive. And you still front on me, on greatness and what we brought to the game. And every time you want to mention something. She's pulling out the metra. Every time y 'all want to mention something, y 'all skip past the accomplishments. And I'm in your face. Number one podcast. I feel you on that, though. I feel you on that. Telling you y 'all read.
30:06I feel you on the world. Like, what do you see Cap about to do? There you go. We live in the area where they don't go to your funeral to after you dead. They don't go to your funeral to after you dead? Think about that. Damn, that's real. You're not going to get none of that, which you're looking for? Shout out to Ray Dijon. I went to my man Ray Dijon for video music. Rest in peace to Ray. In Brooklyn. I seen you there. Yeah, I seen the fabricons and all of them was up in the center. I seen your shirt. Oh, wow. For sure. That joint? Yeah, yeah. So everybody was out there, But, you know, I feel like that's something, you know, we got to always pay respects to, you know, the people who made us happy on Earth.
30:46When they pass away, you got to show up. So shout out to Ralph McDaniels and them. And, yeah, I mean, I'm outside. How you been? You been outside since you been on this tour? No. Are you still? She's working. No, because I got the baby. She got a son with her. But my mom is coming. Are you listening here? Do you see human people? She's not on stage with robots. No. This guy's crazy. Eve, I'm going to break that down for you. Do you see human people? I want you to. I got to the point. I got to the point. And I'm allegedly not as rich as you. I'm just saying. Hold up. I'm just saying. I'm allegedly.
31:29Listen to what I'm saying. What is this? When I get off the plane now, when I get off the plane, I'm not lying to you. They spin me. and I'm on a tarmac in the car. I don't see humans. I can't see humans. I'm in my house. But did you see some on the plane? Yeah, but that's not, they passed by. I'm, OK. But what I'm saying to you is, why they not trying to let me see human people? I went to a Giants game, right? And I came out, I actually got happy. I walked the hallway. I seen like thousands of people coming my way out. They said, now I'm in a staircase going down through the way that I don't see a human being.
32:04What's happening? That's my choice. You don't want to see. What do you mean it's by choice? Nobody. Are you being snatched? You don't mean me do that door. You can bring me to that door. You get what I'm saying? I'm trying to see it. But is he being snatched? I'm trying to argue with a fan. I'm trying to. Leave. Your guess is the good thing. What is happening? You know what I did? They took him away from human beings now. Is this not your choice? What I did this week, which player got sick, so I came outside by myself. Brooklyn, Harlem, Bronx by myself in the big body shit with the people because I got to feel the humans because if it's up to them who is them?
32:45The people. Who are they? I'm trying to tell you when I had a show I had a show Atlantic City shit got thousands of people, right? They got tables where you perform afterward you stand on the table them motherfuckers put me up a deck center field up a deck yo yo this is better here like why they won't let me see the humans? You want to touch the people. Yes. You want to feel the people. Yeah they try their best for me. What happens with you? Do you come outside? If you perform in Philly are you going to the soul food restaurant in Philly? I do yeah. I like to walk around. So they letting you Who is they?
33:24Nobody can do. There's no one that can there's no let. You hear this shit bitch? I mean, it's... These rappers can see human beings. Right. Well, it's partly your fault, all of y 'all. Tell you what's happening to me. Whatever, it's cool. I'm telling you what's happening to me. I ain't lying to you. They do swerve and curve. Boom, boom, boom. If it was up to me, I'd be with y 'all. He tweaked. Give him one of them professional questions of yours, Jada. Oh, my God. Can I have something? I want some coffee. Oh, we got Kiss Cafe. You want the pods? How you want it? Ground. Ground? Yeah. Just for the bus.
34:02We need coffee on the bus. We'll get you that. You're from a legendary crew, right? You know, you guys are very lucky too. Very almost clipsy. Like the clips, their best friend is Pharrell. We've got the free Louis Vuitton connect. Right? What is going on? Where do these things go? I go to Louis Vuitton. Extra strong diet. No, my thing is, yo, me and you, we out here buying Louis Vuitton. These guys walk in the store and get it free. No, that's great. That is a great thing. That's a great thing. That's a nice, we're free. My thing is like, we got to pay for this shit, right? It's not, don't feel as good.
34:47Be nice to get it for free. Right? But you, you got Swiss. Swiss live in the Tony Stark's house. It's all glass on a mountain with his cars looking out. That's not normal shit that your brother that you wrapped on his first fucking beat when he was D's nephew. Now live in some palace. She's doing great. How do you feel when you see when you did you watch the verses with the locks on there? We was just talking about it. I want to talk about it. Like, did you watch it? Yeah. How you felt? You felt like you should have came out like at some point. No. What do I need to come out with? What was you excited for?
35:25Of course. It was great. Why? This guy's crazy. This guy's crazy. I'm proud of my people. When I see my people win, I get excited. You ever thought about doing one? The Swiss call you? I know you probably did. You did one? You did it early one? I did it with Trina, but I was in London. I couldn't fly. Oh, yes. You did the one before? No. I found out I was pregnant, so I couldn't get on a plane. Oh, wow. I literally just found out. So Swiss hooked it up so that I could do it from London. You was in Miami. My brother went. I was supposed to fly to Miami. And we changed it at the last minute. We changed it at the last minute.
36:07And when you got pregnant, I was about to get a reoccurring part on Queens. And then it... Ain't my fault. Don't blame me. It was a beautiful thing for me to lose my job. One of the best things. That wasn't my fault. That wasn't part of my thing. That was part of production. Production. That was a production situation. How you like acting? You enjoyed it? Me? Yeah. Yeah, you like it. Yeah, I like it. I like it a little. I mean, they almost broke me. That particular one I had to do, I had to jump in some rain and mud and roll around fake wrestling. I went to the lady that I don't think this is for me.
36:46Exactly. She was like, no, Jada, you got it. I said, lady, I think I'm ready to. That's a lot. That production was a lot. Had a brand new Dior hoodie on. They paid for it, but I'm like, just jump in the mud? This is brand new. Don't worry about that. You know what people might not realize out there is like one thing I realize in the acting world is like hip hop. Acting is hard. It's a lot of things. It's like I feel like I lose one of my lives every time I go all out. Like, you know, you got nine lives. I lose one. When I play a main role, then I got to get into that zone. that, you know, when I act, I lock myself in the smallest hotel room in the world for like a week and just go over my lines.
37:29I'm extra focused. So I lose one of my nine lives when I play a serious role because it's not like, and then when you rap, when you're rapping, you're the king of your shit. You own your own studio. You do whatever you want. When you act. That's out of your element. That ain't an element. Other people time. Yeah, you on their time. That's crazy to me. I think that's why I don't really, I'm not excited to go back in that capacity because I don't, the hours. I don't like the hours. You want to be behind. You want to be in production. Yeah, run and shoot. And make choices. That's really, really crazy because when we shot Night School, we'd be there at six in the morning and they won't shoot my scene until 12 at night.
38:12You're like, yo, what kind of shit is this? We there all day. I must have had diabetes on 10 ,000 because they keep giving you candies to keep you up and shit. and you just eating them candies and shit and then 12 midnight. I'm like, yo, bro, you happy at me. I know. 11 in the morning, 10 in the morning, I'd have been a fresh rat, Joe. Like, why do you wait? You run me down to 12 hours later. That's part of that production money that you never understand. It just, it's different. It was paying you all them hours. You were just sitting. That's true. Yeah, you know. But acting also, it's almost like they always say, pay your dues.
38:48When we paid our dues in rap, you know what I'm saying from back in the day when you was working and um what do you feel about uh coming out in in the era you did as to this era it seems like the girls is getting crazy paper quick but it don't feel like and I'm not trying to disrespect no ladies but it don't feel I got nothing to do with the next sentence ladies how do you know I gotta save my ass no I'm not saying It feels like, see, 20 years later, you're on the couch. Prime time. We talking about who? We just said that her legacy is staying. Do you think these young girls - Has sustainability.
39:31Has sustainability. Some of them. That's a good question. That's the question. Yes, that's a very good question. I think some of them are. I agree. I think there are some. Can I get a Diet Pepsi, please? I think there are some. I don't think it's going to be a lot. I don't think it's going to be a lot, but I think there will be some. I think, you know, I think Dolce will be there. I think Cardi has made her way. I think obviously like, yeah, I mean, I love Glow. Glow. I think Glow will be here. I think Glow gonna have a nice legacy. Yeah. I think there's some. I don't think it'll be a lot. So you think some of them is gonna make it through the cracks?
40:02Lotto's dope. Yeah. Love Lotto. Yeah. I think so. I definitely think so. It's a lot of crap out, but yeah. Yeah. Man. Yeah. I'm glad they start giving you the little joints. So half the shit. Half the shit ain't done before. 48 of them down here. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Everybody. Yo, yo, you picking up the same can, yo.
40:34That's my guy. I'm addicted to Diet Pepsi. I tell them, I mean, that's my shit. How you feel about how the whole shit just switched, like streaming from... We seem to go from cassettes to CDs to... iCloud is downstream. Are you glad you missed? I mean, you didn't miss it because you're still your music still on every platform, but we didn't have to. Would you still call that era the golden era? You think it would ever be a time no matter what finances he keep talking about just the feeling and the claw for the music in the 90s? No, I think we had it the best. I really do. I think there was a whole thing about really consuming where you don't feel that with streaming.
41:22It's different. Like you can get excited about something coming out. You can listen to it over and over again. But we I think that was the grip in the place. It's nothing like that. I miss that. I definitely miss that. And I think actually, I don't know. You know what? What is it? Vinyl has come back. That's actually has grown a lot. So I think people that are into vinyl get that experience. But I miss that experience. Yeah. You know, my brother Diamond D who discovered me, they be playing 45, like, instrumentals, right? That joint, my favorite joint you did with Usher. Whatever, I'll get back.
41:59But they play that shit. And then, no, no, I went to Diamonds. He was DJing, sold out in Miami. And there's people standing there, right? There's people standing there just absorbing. Yeah. The music. It ain't about bam, bam, bam. It's just the music. And so I watch people sitting there just like vibing and listening to the four fives, you know. And so the appreciation of music is still there, you know. It would never go. Yeah. Yeah, but a lot of, and we never dissed the youth, but a lot of the youth, they felt like music was a lick. Like, yo, I'm going to just say a hot song and I'm going to just get this bag and this, this and that.
42:48It wasn't about preserving the culture. You know, to this day, if I'm driving in Manhattan and I see Big Daddy Kane or anyone like you did. I'm pulling on. Yes. Yeah, I'm saluting them to the utmost. I see Melly Melly in them. I pull over and be like, yo, the gods, yo, this, this. Yeah. It ain't like that no more. No. You know what I'm saying? because I think people were more or less, young rappers was looking for the catcher quick. You know what I mean? To get that bag rather than us, where we knew who put in the work before us. With that being said, a lot of them have that hot moment and didn't back the grand.
43:28Yeah, so you can't, you go for a quick lick, you get a quick lick. Yeah. That's crazy. Was there ever a point in time in your career where you was just like, yo, like, what's up? Like being done with it. Nah, just like it was discouraging, discouraging, it wasn't paying like. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I mean. She went from Dr. Yeah, I got dropped from Dre. Yeah, her stories. Rough Riders. And then when, because I was signed to like Interscope, when Rough Riders kind of went through their issues with Interscope, I kind of got caught up in that. And that kind of fucked up everything for me. Like when Tambourine came out, that basically, And that's when everything kind of fell apart.
44:08And I definitely felt like deflated. This is one of the most discouraging businesses by far you've ever been. Yeah. I would. I would. Yeah. Elaborate, brother. Oh, it's always something. Yeah. You may get in. You get the album you think is the album or your thing is five songs can't get cleared. Yeah. And this is not. It's always something. Nice. I mean, I think that's just with life. And right now with it just being so much in social media and so much, everybody in your business and everybody got something to say and everybody got a comment and this and opinion. And he's way harder now. Like I think back in the days you could hide your life.
44:55Like, like, like I never used to see Rakim when Rakim was number one. I never would see him. I'd be like, yo, does he really live in the mansion with the fish? And so, you know, I'm like - That's real, that's real. Because fish is his favorite dish. I be like, yo, he must live in a mansion with fish as his favorite dish. Like, you know, like we never seen Michael Jackson. Like I never seen Michael Jackson. I seen him. You saw him? Yeah. Where, Summer Jam that time? Vegas. Not Summer Jam. I seen Mike in Vegas. She walked right by me. He got on the elevator. No way. Yeah. And what nasty kid he's on.
45:37I didn't get to speak to him, but he walked right by me. Wow. Never got to see Mike. Nah, me neither. Who was the most famous person you ever met? When in the hotel? I don't know. I mean, I think I've been like Prince for me was probably as my top. Like I got to record with him. I got to perform with him. I got to like hang out and really bust it up with him. So that for me. That's fine. Yeah. You think he really used to play basketball on the platforms? I don't know. I never saw that. But I heard he did. No, no, Charlie Murphy. Listen, I had one time to meet Prince. Yeah. And I fucked up. What happened?
46:18It's a legendary night, though. They had a, when the All-Star was in New York. Yo, Chris. Oh, he was performing. I remember that. Yeah, he was performing at the Jordan Park. I was there. He was there. I was there. That's no cap. I was so smacked, right? Drunk this one night because I never get high a drink. But that night I got drunk and Prince was performing. And I was just like, yeah, I can catch him next time, whatever. I ain't paid the right attention. And then he passed away, you know, shortly after. And I was like, damn, I couldn't like really. Yeah, because you kind of took it for granted.
46:52That actually happened with me, with Michael Jackson. I could have met him. But then I was like, nah, I'll get to meet. Because I think Swiss was working with him. So I was like, I'll definitely meet him through Swiss, like at a time. And then I think it was two weeks later, a week later. I was like, I'll just wait. You know, that happened to me. You know, my favorite singer of all time is Luther Vandross. And so when Luther was in the hospital, I pulled up. They told me what the hospital was, but I never met Luther. I parked outside the joint and I was just like, I was scared to go upstairs. Yeah, of course.
47:27You know what I'm saying? so I ain't go upstairs. The hospital was Beth Israel on 2nd Avenue. You better stop bullshitting. Capping your face and all that shit. He down with all them guys out there. I didn't say anything. You the leader. You the leader of the joke. Oh my God. You're the asshole. Your face didn't help. You know that? The women haters club. It didn't help. Oh my God. You know, like Honeymooners, you the leader of the lodge. He's not the leader of the lodge. But the sad thing is I was scared to go upstairs because I didn't think he would know me or nothing like that, but that's the only opportunity.
48:12You couldn't go up there and say your last words. Yeah, man. I mean, but, and so DMX, right? That's another guy you got super. The dog. Y 'all got super history. Do you got any DMX stories we might have never heard? Oh, my God. She got millions of exes. Yeah, Leslie. Nah, exes. Ex was, like, I don't know, special. You know, you know. But I'm asking you, the people, though, they say my sister's lies. When I say my DMX stories, they say I'm lying one million percent. Nah, I don't even know what stories to tell. I mean, hanging out of windows, hanging out of cars, driving out of wind. Like, what the hell?
48:58Like, what the fuck? Speed and crazy all the time, all the time. But for some reason, you trusted him. I don't even know. I've been in cars. I was in cars with him. And for some reason, you fucking he made you believe that you was going to be OK. You just was like, cool. We do a tribute to him, like a small little tribute on the show. Yeah. And people really they love. So, yeah, he was special. man. He was special. He was special. You know, he was one of the greatest. You know, every time I think of DMX, man, he just had the biggest songs ever. Like, y 'all gonna make me lose my mind. I mean, like, anytime I'm listening to music in the show or club or something, one of his shits come on.
49:46It immediately makes me think of that time where I'm like, yo, this shit was big. This was the biggest shit ever. And so we more than honored to have you in our presence. Like I said, I got four outfits in the thing. Boat, go all the time. I love what you pick. You look great. I'm looking good, right? You look great. You know he got it. This is the best shit. By the way, I'm glad you got your legs out because they look great. Oh, fuck! Oh, fuck! I the one who told you, you just fucking bitch. You thought it was a joke when I told you the legs. Just look at that. Thank y 'all for having me. You got to keep one.
50:28That one got to stay like this. I got to like, Joe, get the fuck out. Keep it up. You want to give me some braces and some shit? Guys. Oh, my God. I'm going to work on that leg. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for the lovely. Thank y 'all. Royalty. Royalty. Thank you. You've been to Philly. Anyway, you've been to Philly on the store yet? No, not yet. They don't even go to Philly. They go somewhere like Pennsylvania. But even then, I'm not on it. It's in September. I'm not on it anyway. Oh, because I've been trying to get the Skinny Joes. Skinny Joe Molina, he got this new cheesesteak. I've been watching this shit on Instagram.
51:06You been brother, you still a fan or no? You know Skinny Joe? My artist is about to come up here. I could have told him to bring you one. He could have put it. But it wouldn't have been like cheesesteak, you got to catch it down. You got to catch it off the scale. I'm going down there. Trust me. They got, they, they, this, Eddie Joe's got a much. When I go back to Philly, I'm going to get to you. Yo, my man. No, this is cheese, dog. You got to stop being, dog. This is cheese. This guy's crazy. I don't know what you're saying. Going down there, trust me. I mean, but my, I haven't had, what, my family loves this one place called D 'Alessandro's.
51:43I've never been. So. Nah, ain't nothing. Listen. Gems is mine, but. First of all, shout out to my man, Steve Matarano from South Philly. that's out in Florida. His cheesesteak's a legend. And, um, but Skinny Joe's has my attention. Okay. So one of your brothers, somebody got to try that shit out there. Somebody got to let me know if it's the real deal because I'm about to drive down the turnpike for a cheesesteak. Is it? That was, what's, what is it? Why? Why? Now we're going to pause to death, right? It look juicy. push. Wait, go ahead. Whoa. No, go ahead. Come on, because I need to know why.
52:28Yo. What? What? It look like, it look like that. It look like a special steak, too. It looks like, what's the shit they say? They be like petting this before they kill him. Yeah, Wagyu. Wagyu, yeah. It look like Wagyu, right? That shit is the most disrespectful shit in the world, right? You go to a restaurant, they be like, bathed in oil of Olay. Only heard an opera movie his whole life. When we killed him, this knife was so sharp he couldn't feel a thing. It's true. But I mean that Wagyu, it looked like Wagyu. Trust me, Skinny Joe's in Philly is where I need to get to. And I've been wanting to get there all summer, but I'm going to have an off day and I'm going down that turnpike.
53:13With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for this 10th of the Joe and Jayden show.
53:20This guy's amazing.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Eve, the Philadelphia hip hop legend and Ruff Ryders' First Lady. She tells Joe and Jada about her early career getting dropped from Dr. Dre's Aftermath label to finding herself on Ruff Ryders Entertainment alongside DMX and The Lox. They reminisce on the golden era of 1990s rap when people would rush to the store rather than listen to everything on Spotify and Apple. Joe and Jada also ask her about her current tour with Ja Rule, Nelly, and Chingy; what she thinks about the modern era of female rappers like Cardi B, Doechii, and Latto; and her acting career with her television projects 'Eve' and 'Queens.'
3:15 - Joe is convinced Eve is a billionaire
9:00 - Moving from Philly to the UK
13:30 - Tour with Ja Rule, Nelly & Chingy
21:15 - Jada's keeping Joe out the asylum
28:00 - Does Eve get enough credit?
36:15 - Jada missed out on his 'Queens' role
39:00 - Cardi, Doechii & modern streaming era
43:45 - Getting dropped from Aftermath
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48:30 - DMX stories
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