Fat Joe & Jadakiss ADDRESS Joe talking over guests, French Montana's "All The Way Up" story & J. Cole

20 Jan 2026 · 1 h 16 min · 30 chapters

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In short

Fat Joe and Jadakiss debate inflated music/streaming money numbers, whether J. Cole “came outside” after callouts, catalog ownership strategy, and how podcast dynamics/“talking too much” affect guests. They also discuss French Montana’s “All The Way Up” release story, plus sports chatter (Jalen Brunson ankle, Knicks players) and broader culture/business takes (Kaz/streaming-to-fashion, hip-hop awards, and “positive vs controversy” podcasting).

Guests

No guest appears in the episode; it’s primarily Fat Joe and Jadakiss.

Guest backgrounds

Not applicable (no guests).

Key claims

  • Streaming/record headlines like “200 million” are likely inflated; real performance is what you can verify.
  • J. Cole is great musically, but Jadakiss can’t respect callouts that don’t lead to “coming outside.”
  • Fat Joe argues artists should sell/secure their catalogs to prevent family exploitation after death.
  • Podcast success depends on the hosts’ rhythm; cutting each other off is a recurring issue they address.

Notable examples

  • French Montana’s “All The Way Up” momentum: Aces club in Queens wanted a single release and it went out the next day, creating a major win for New York.
  • J. Cole’s “Fall Off” and past mixtape using “Money Power Respect” and “Can’t Live” beats.
  • Tiana Taylor winning an acting award; Joe recalls meeting her since she was 10 and watching her “full circle” moment.

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Joe & Jada's Introduction

0:55 to 2:00

Joe and Jada introduce themselves and set the tone for the show.

“Visit your nearby Lowe's on South Loop 288 in Denton.”

Inflated Numbers in the Industry

2:00 to 4:28

Discussion on the authenticity of reported earnings in the music industry.

“but I knew what they was going to talk to me about they said Joe you talk too much on the show I might need a shot of something right now it's about to get spicy yeah yeah what up y 'all It's your boy Joe Crack the Dawn.”

J. Cole's Upcoming Project

4:28 to 6:13

Insights on J. Cole's new mixtape and its significance.

“So I don't know what, and I know I'm not getting that kind of money.”

Catalog Sales and Legacy

6:13 to 8:30

Exploration of the importance of music catalogs and securing family wealth.

“They screwed his head off the big three.”

J. Cole and Authenticity in Hip-Hop

8:30 to 11:14

Debate over J. Cole's authenticity in the hip-hop scene and public persona.

“what I think is important about the catalog is because you know business and y 'all going to do the right business and y 'all going to sell your shit for the right price.”

Basketball Talk: Jalen Brunson & Knicks

11:14 to 14:01

Discussion of Jalen Brunson's injury and the Knicks' performance.

“Man, if Fat Joe talking to all that Fat Joe, the gangster, there's a video of me getting my face smacked off.”

Giannis and the Booing Incident

14:01 to 17:23

Discussing Giannis's emotional response to booing after winning a championship.

“They import them and be like, yo, he's playing for Spain.”

Cold Weather Struggles

17:24 to 19:50

A humorous exchange about dealing with cold weather at home and family dynamics.

“how you feel about John Morin John what you want me to feel about John I think he need a fresh start one billion percent he needs a fresh start but the problem maybe they should send him to Miami is a gun state.”

Military Experiences and Perspectives

19:51 to 21:41

Reflecting on military service and the psychological effects of combat.

“I said, yo, cuz, don't you think you press your luck?”

Tiana Taylor's Big Win

21:42 to 22:55

Celebrating Tiana Taylor's achievements and her journey in the industry.

“You know what's crazy is, they think I cap, but she was here, she confirmed.”
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Podcast Dynamics: Who Talks More?

22:56 to 23:49

Examining the balance of conversation and who dominates the podcast.

“We ain't never getting nominated for that, so don't even think about it.”

Your Role in the Podcast

23:50 to 28:04

Discussing the roles of Joe and Jadakiss in shaping the podcast's identity.

“The problem is you cut me off and you cut me off while we try to fix the problem.”

Fat Joe's Unfiltered Thoughts

28:04 to 30:15

Fat Joe shares his unfiltered thoughts on his podcasting style and the industry.

“because you clip, you do everything, you produce it well, but this shit is our shit.”

Navigating Podcast Challenges

34:01 to 39:26

Discussion on the challenges of maintaining a positive podcast amidst negativity in the industry.

“The business card that gives back all you put in.”

Cultural Impact Through Storytelling

39:26 to 42:04

Fat Joe discusses the importance of storytelling in preserving culture and promoting positivity.

“the first 20 minutes is who got killed, who got stabbed on the train, who beat up a conductor, who killed the bodega man.”

The Challenge of Positivity in Hip-Hop

42:04 to 43:32

Explore the struggles of maintaining positivity in the competitive world of hip-hop.

“we already going against the grain because we trying to be positive.”

Cautionary Tales for Young Stars

43:32 to 45:28

Learn why young talent should avoid leaving their core success for uncertain ventures.

“These competition, these podcasts, they loving this show.”

The Importance of Staying Grounded

45:28 to 47:20

Understand the significance of maintaining a stable foundation while pursuing fame.

“When he said he quit, he meant it more as a metaphor.”

Lessons from the Past: Joe's Journey

47:20 to 51:28

Hear Joe's personal story of struggle and the lessons learned from his career ups and downs.

“With Luka and AR on the court, there's no defense.”

The Comeback: All the Way Up

51:28 to 56:00

Discover the story behind the hit song 'All the Way Up' and its impact on Joe's life.

“crowd electric steak and lobster every day.”

Navigating Personal Struggles and Influences

56:00 to 56:40

Discussion on the importance of focusing on personal growth and avoiding negative influences.

“Remy turn around like, yo, you heard the guard.”

The Business of Music: Fair Practices

56:40 to 57:50

Exploration of ethical practices in the music industry, particularly around publishing rights.

“You guys want me to talk about something else, guys?”

Crediting Collaborators in Music

57:50 to 59:00

Emphasis on the importance of crediting songwriters and collaborators in the music industry.

“Y 'all called the men just to say, y 'all already had them.”

The Changing Landscape of Hollywood

1:02:21 to 1:04:40

Discussion on the evolving dynamics in Hollywood and celebrity culture.

“George Clooney, Leonardo, for sure Leonardo was with it.”

AI Influence on Relationships

1:04:40 to 1:06:10

Debate on the impact of AI in personal relationships and social media.

“You think that motherfucker that shit ain't premeditated that that girl's sitting next to the new Leonardo DiCaprio?”

Coping with Loss and Grief

1:06:10 to 1:10:01

Personal story about dealing with grief and the inevitability of life moving on.

“When I'm online, I got a triple, quadruple check that shit.”

Finding Light in Darkness

1:10:01 to 1:13:43

Learn how to stay positive during difficult times and cope with loss.

“big project where everybody came outside.”

The State of America: ICE and Policing

1:13:44 to 1:16:19

Understanding the current political climate and immigration issues in America.

“And Rich, a really good friend of ours, his mom's, you know, she got the cancer to where they can't get it out.”

Hip Hop Breakups and Regrets

1:16:20 to 1:20:28

Explore notable breakups in hip hop and their impact on the industry.

“That's not black and brown people in the middle of that street below zero going up against ICE.”

Christmas Gifts and Gratitude

1:20:29 to 1:22:48

The hosts share holiday gratitude and gifts among friends.

“That right there was the new emergence of Snoop and Dre.”
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2:00but I knew what they was going to talk to me about they said Joe you talk too much on the show I might need a shot of something right now it's about to get spicy

2:24yeah yeah what up y 'all It's your boy Joe Crack the Dawn. You know who it is, your boy Jada? You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. The most iconic and the most legendary is where we don't have a guest. That's what Hogue said. You said he curved us. You know I never asked him to do the show yet. Save yourself a favor. Do myself a favor? Don't do it. Save a little piece for later? I see what you said that. Nori was like laughing in the comments that he know this guy is the curve king when it comes to doing podcasts and all that. I think I might, I think I might have a step up.

3:08I don't know. I think I could do it. I feel like I could do it. Sometimes when it's some shit, I feel like I can't do. I'll be real with myself and be like, yo, I can't pull it off, but I think I could do it. I hope you can. What's up with these inflated numbers, right? Listen, people out there, it's great to be inspired, right? But when you see people with these numbers, like, is these numbers real? Because I feel like I get to the back, right? And everything about me says I get to the back. There's no bullshit. You go to my crib, shit is a palace. You see what I drive, you see what I wear on my wrist, you see, it's no illusion.

3:51and I'm a crackhead compared to these numbers. I be hearing other guys get, I'm not talking about, I'm just saying the general, you could see headlines. Yo, such and such 200 million. This guy's making 30 million a year. This guy, I don't see it. I don't see the, I don't see the residue. No, I don't think. I know it's inflated. I know these numbers is probably some shit. Yo, 10 year plan. And hopefully something happens. This shit ain't real, man. Every time I turn around, I hear about somebody else getting crazy money. And every time me and you come around them, we smoking them on every level.

4:32So I don't know what, and I know I'm not getting that kind of money. That kind of money, these inflated numbers. Why did I even think about that behind the scenes? Something we was talking about, something we was just like, oh yeah, they said A$AP Rocky sold a billion records before. Pre-save. Somebody said bots, this, that. I don't know. I just don't know. I know he got a cult following, but that's more than a cult. That's a nation of people, a million people that download the thing. God bless him. He's a beautiful guy. A million pre-orders? It's a pre-save, is what they call it on Spotify. it lets fans auto add an upcoming album or single to their Spotify library the moment it goes live my thing is you think because I don't know somebody strike me if I'm dead or a lightning rod and I'm not trying to single out I really even wasn't even talking about strike me if I'm dead but I haven't feel it for motherfucker to move units like that I gotta hear some shit on the radio all day he gotta be pandemonium it ain't just y 'all I'm coming out with a slow leaker and you sell a million on the first day shout out to J.

5:47Cole he got project coming out called a fall off and he got a mixtape where he used some of the locks he rhymed over money power respect and he rhymed over cannot live killed them shit so Cole is coming back in a major way do we look at him the same being that they screwed his head off the big three Here is bars. All of that shit don't matter. It's over. He's coming crazy. Let me tell you something, man. They screwed his head off the big three. Is he in the big three? I don't like that terminology, so give me a pass. But they better screw his shit back on. Listen, let me tell you something. The lies, no matter what you call it, in your biggest heyday, no matter what, it's all about the music.

6:32You going off the internet. No, I'm not going off the internet. Now, I'm talking about hip hop, right? So what I'm saying to you is you guys were fucking miniature compared to 50 Cent just sold 30 million records. You went at them. You went to the yard with the swan. You're answering your own question. What's that? He could sell 100 million. The bars and the power of the people in the street made all of that shit irrelevant. He didn't come outside. Jada? It's all in the music. You talk about knocking them out the park. And this and that and that and this. I got to hear it. He got some shit. You know what I mean?

7:17Are you ever thinking of selling your catalog? I think about it every day. Well, I got the buyers. I got the buyers. You want me to do that, I could do that for you. Get you super rich real quick security. You know what happens? People take advantage. This is my logic. God forbid something happens, car accident, Jada kid, the locks die. Niggas is going on tour or something. The van flips over. Somebody that your wives think that you really trusted, that you love, and this and this, they come over and say, you know, we can help. We can get you$8 million and your wife is like, $8 million? Meanwhile, they're going to get$26 million for this shit.

8:01$36 million for it. Me, I want to secure that. You know what I'm saying? If I die, I want to feel good and say to myself, yo, I know I left my family enough money. Now, if they blow enough money, that's their problem. And I wake up every day like, eat my scrambled eggs. Like, if y 'all blow it, that's on y 'all. That's not me. Don't be walking around here talking about I ain't leave you shit or I ain't take care of the family. But that's what I think is important about the catalog is because you know business and y 'all going to do the right business and y 'all going to sell your shit for the right price.

8:38But if you pass away and your wife don't know what's going on, it's going to be somebody that you told her you trust that's going to sit down and be like, yo, you know what? I could get y 'all$8 million, $9 million and this shit really worth $30 million. I don't think Kay would do that. No, Kay ain't the guy. No, Kay ain't the guy. Kay ain't the guy. It's going to be an industry guy that you always respect that's going to sit down and be like, listen, guys, I can take care of you, get you $9 million. $9 million off the cloud sounds like a big number. Meanwhile, these motherfuckers get $27 million.

9:15That's why I suggest you should do it. That's just my opinion. You can't wait to let people play with your family. You know what I'm saying? But the numbers is inflated. We back at the numbers is inflated. We moving on. Oh, you said J. Cole. I don't look at him the same. He ain't come outside. Sometimes you tell me, Joe, you want the 100 million, this, that, you got to say the truth. I don't look at him the same. The fucking sword is dull. I don't care what he spit. I've been listening to him spitting. I always said he's one of the greatest. And all that is irrelevant to me when you're talking all that gangster shit and they call you to the yard and you don't step outside.

9:58I can't look at you. That's like you seeing the dude who they always told you, and you know you always thought he was tough, and you see some other kingpin nigga smack his cheek off, and the nigga, my bad, and walk off. I'm keeping it a buck with you. That's how I look at the shit. I hear the music, man. The music is great. Don't give a fuck if you lose. I never forget Everlast and Eminem. Everlast definitely knew he couldn't beat Eminem, but he came outside to the yard. He came outside. so that's just how I look at it big up J. Cole, the whole crew North Carolina and all that but he caught stage fright supposed to come outside man he did he didn't man alright he bowed out gracefully but I don't never mean he wasn't I mean we come from all call outs what they say in the Game of Thrones what they say the North never forgets remember when the Starks come They got the North.

10:58Never forget. Yeah, you're not waiting six months to let the smoke clear to come back outside and talk legendary and all that. Like, it's like the North never forgets. He didn't do that. He just ended what he into. All right. He had a new shit. Coming from you. Shit is crazy. You go to war. Jadakiss go to war. Jadakiss go to war. The locks go to war. I'm a J. Cole fan. I'm just telling you they don't hit me. It's tough. You know what I'm saying? Man, if Fat Joe talking to all that Fat Joe, the gangster, there's a video of me getting my face smacked off. You ain't going to hear Flo Joe the same.

11:33You're going to be like, man. And that was your face smacked off in public. Was like, yo. And he said, no, I rescinded. I'm coming back. No, no, no. I didn't mean it. You know when you riding bike and then you do the pedal backwards, the shit pedals backwards? Roll back. That's what he did. He rolled back, brother. You know when the fucking test people going tick, tick, tick, tick? Yo, you know when you hear this shit? No, no, you hear the tick-tick? The tick-tick-tick-tick-tick. You know where your shit going. Yeah, but when you roll that shit back with the metal pedals and that scrape up your shins.

12:04Kill you. Oof. All right, let's talk about Jalen Brunson. What about Jalen Brunson? He got sprung. We don't know how real it is. I was at Dr. Rock. Dr. Rock is the Knicks foot doctor. He ain't hear nothing. Nobody rushed Jalen Brunson to him and all that. I don't think it's one of those. I don't think it's a couple games. Oh, I hope so. He rolled his ankle. These guys discombobulated. The Knicks last night, I stood up to one something. They got rocked. When I say rocked, Precious Achua, that's an old classic. You traded me. He gave the Knicks work. Oh, he gave them niggas not work. I think he from up your way.

12:43He from Westchester. One million percent. Precious Achua lives in where he grew up in Westchester. From Africa. He ain't from up. Precious Achua. Google, James. He some Westchester. I don't know about that. I never heard of him until he got on the Knicks. God forbid he lost three or four baskets. That nigga had like 20-something. Thank God he missed four. He was killing him. Total fucking destruction. Where he from? Two-time felony from Westchester. Bah! How you forget that? But the Bronx is Westchester. How you don't know that? Let me tell you something. That guy's from up there. He's from like Scarsdale and all that shit.

13:23I'm telling you. He's from up Westchester. That's the thing that they play for the Knicks. No. I'm telling you what the Fluidity King says. That Clyde Frazier be like, from Westchester, he was born in Nigeria. There you go. Let me ask you something. If Spain. Africa. Let me ask you a question. Have you seen many blacks Spanish Spain from Europe? Spain. Have you seen many blacks Spanish Spain? Yo. Spanish Spain. Why the fuck? Have you seen many black Spaniards? Spain. Why is the whole Spain soccer team black? They all from, like, Nigeria, Africa. They import them and be like, yo, he's playing for Spain.

14:06They're not really Spanish or French. It's all of them. Like Giannis, the Greek, the freak. Greek, the freak is African. Greek with the freak. Through the dust. Greek, the freak started crying the other day. Greek, the freak. He won out. I got to stop. This shit is contagious, man. What? Greek the freak. He's Greek the freak? I'm saying it wrong? They was booing him, didn't he? He went like this. What do you say? And Tupacuco.

14:40This. Yeah, listen. This thing's crazy, though. Listen, let me tell you something. I'm fried. if I brought the only championship to a town in 50 years or some shit like that, and you booing me, I'm going to feel a certain way. Not only that, give a fuck what you heard. Milwaukee is a tough way of life. When Giannis said, yo, I'm staying in Milwaukee, nobody believed that. You was like, yo, he should be. That's like, yo, listen, man. They gave him enough money to buy a village. You would have stayed there too. No, I would have stood. You know, I'm in New York like I'm in the... Like you. Like I'm one of the monks walking for peace.

15:27Nigga, I'm a Miami body already. My shit, I'm cold for no reason. I'm in the house with this heat on 80. I can't fuck with this shit. I don't care how many puffers I got or whatever the fucking shit is. It's shit cold out here. The fucking cold is inside. I don't know if y 'all understand. I'm fucking cold. And I got a family that don't want to put the fucking heat on. Oh, you got the house like mine. They like it cold. They do not. I like it hot. No, they want it cold. They want it cold. I can't get no hot. How about I pay the fucking bills and I still can't get heat? I got to walk around with like a fucking blanket and shit like Charlie Brown.

16:09What's the guy, Charlie Brown? Charlie Brown always got the blanket, one of them. Oh, that's Linus. That's Linus. Nigga, I'm like Linus in the house. I got to take a shower with a blanket. I got to take a shower with a blanket, Pete. This year, come on, dog. They don't want the heat. Take a shower with a blanket. They don't want the heat. I'm sitting there. I go like this. The other day, my wife tells me. She says, for the first time in the history of mankind, she says, it's hot in here, right? I looked at us. It's hot? She said, it's hot in here. I said, well, you do know they have buttons right behind you that'll make this warm.

16:48If you press the button, it won't be fucking cold. Yo, could somebody please help me, man? Yeah, but you know what it is, Joe, especially with the wives. You know why they're always hot. Menopause. Very menopausal. Menopause is real, guys. Menopause is real. Hot flashes. all that shit is real damn two times a fella came around with a duffel bag of flags he feel like this shit about to go flagrant he like yo two times a fella man two times a fella brought out a million flags how you feel about John Morin John what you want me to feel about John I think he need a fresh start one billion percent he needs a fresh start but the problem maybe they should send him to Miami is a gun state.

17:41You have a legal gun. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you right now, you know your kids better than anybody in the world. If you live in somewhere where they're going to give two years to your son no matter what for the gun, move your ass to Atlanta, Miami, somewhere where the guns is legal. I got friends with 100 machine guns in Miami. They're going to kill them. Kill him. Yeah. Your son walking around with a gun in New York City where Johnny Cochran. So the solution to that. Little Wayne did time. Send him to Beirut where everybody got guns. That's a fact. Nah, that ain't. I got a cousin. I'm going to keep it real with you.

18:27I never looked at life like this. I got a cousin. And I love you, cuz. I'm not going to say your name for this one because this is crazy. Hey. I'm sitting in the car. Nah, I'm sitting in the car with my cousin. Great guy. He went to Iraq and Afghanistan four times. This guy FaceTiming me like, cause, I'd be like, yeah, he's like, Corporal Major Jonathan, like, yo, he bit the juice. He is in the military. He's in the military. He's serving this country with a smile on his face. Corporal, like, you know, you would say Michael Jordan or, Reggie Jackson and Major Jonathan Wilkins. Like he believed that hype.

19:16They brainwashed him to death. But I'm with him one day. I said, yo, I said, yo, cause you've been in a fucking army for like 12 years. People do four years and get out of there. He said, cause I like to kill. I look, I never looked at it like that. Right. So you think of all these guys playing video games, night forked and all that shit. This guy actually... Night Fork. Yo! Throw them shits. He called it Night Fork. You called it two times, a fella. Yo! Who's going to win the Miami game? Because he brought the flags out of the shits coming from Yonder. Night Fork. Yo, what is the name of the game?

19:56Fork Night, man. Fork Night. I don't know shit. Call it Night Fork. Listen. You do? Let me tell you something. Kids can take that a step. they could take that a step further. They joined the army and killed. My cousin dead ass told me that. Yo, it was chilling. I got the nicest cousin in the world. I sat with him. I said, yo, cuz, don't you think you press your luck? He really went out there to war four times. Afghanistan, Iraq. I'm not lying to you, my little cousin. And the man said, yo, cuz, I like to kill. I said I looked at them goosebumps I was like think about it that's legal killing right I guess that's why they can't adjust when they get back here walking to Walmart and shit like that a car honked the horn like you killing out there and now you come back here and your daughter's like she got a dance recital them niggas just fine a dance recital yes they want you to kill then come back here and act like let's talk about too much killing man let's talk about let's give a pre a pre round of applause

21:17Tiana Taylor brought home that best supporting actor that was so big that was huge that was very big for Harlem big for hip hop big for New York big. That was a grand moment for her family. I got on that remix of that song she played on Joe and Jada on the Deluxe album is coming out. You know what I mean? They duct taped her to a rocket ship. She about to be. She's fucking out of here. You know what's crazy is, they think I cap, but she was here, she confirmed. I know her since she's 10 years old. She knew who she was going to be and what she was going to be. And we meet kids all the time. You never met a kid like this.

22:05She used to come to the Rucker when I coached in a fucking bike dressed like a tomboy. And she'd be like, yo, Joe, introduce me to Pharrell. I'm going to be the biggest in the game. Yo, Joe, I like that. And I'm like from 10 years old. And so when she wins the speech, she wins the thing the other day I'm watching and she goes, oh my God, my babies. that shit hit me a different way because she got babies like i really i look at tiana taylor like 10 year old like i might be bugged out like i look at her like oh my niece whatever when she said her babies it made me realize she's a grown-ass fucking woman with kids and so to see the 360 the full circle uh moment is crazy and we need that in the podcast category that's Bullshit.

22:56Listen, I know how this shit works. We ain't never getting nominated for that, so don't even think about it. I know how this shit works, though, Kiss. He's starting today to push for it. Push for what? Even if we get nominated, we just going there to sit there. Guess what, bro? They do a hip-hop category. They're picking Rory and Mahal. Fuck out of here, man. We done been through the okie-dope. We done been through that shit. We know what this is. Nigga's crazy. Nigga can't fuck with... Matter of fact, let's talk about some shit, right? Some people call me from the back phone, the red phone. They say, you was going to talk to me.

23:35You ain't talk to me. But I knew what they was going to talk to me about. They say, Joe, you talk too much on the show. I might need a shot of something right now. It's about to get spicy. Do you feel like that, that I talk too much? You want to hear? No, I want to hear what you got to say. The problem is you cut me off and you cut me off while we try to fix the problem. You know, we the number one targeted right now. Know what I'm saying? You always say to yourself, it can't fuck with us. We the biggest. We this, we this, that, this. That's what I stole off you. That, this, this. That, this, this.

24:15You can cut me off all day. We just can't cut me off with the same story. but I made him make you a thing you got about a tin clip of you saying that I gotta bring it to you before somebody else before they try to use it against us stories is legendary the lights the guard I just watched your pocket lift on I was the fucking guard big punch just shut you down big punch on all the lights on I'm glad you told me pun I got you you finish okay you clear we started this podcast okay I knew it would work Jadakiss before this podcast your own fans ain't really know your personality like that cause you don't talk much I still don't let me talk fuck you I'm throwing the flag because you blaming me for some shit you doing right now.

25:24Being quiet. All right. So you ain't like to talk. So I felt like, you know, I got to drive this bitch. I don't think I knew or anybody knew how fucking fucking... I'm cutting you off. When we started the podcast, it was supposed to be sports and this, that, this, that, your word again. It turned into you came on. I want to smoke our whole geographic of the podcast change. Then whatever you say took an effect. Because I'm the coach. I'm riding with you. I'm not fucking out of play with the ledge. You like the ledge. Now I gotta touch the third round. The thing is I gotta touch the third round.

26:08The thing is you not let me talk. How about that one? You're talking on you. That's where we got to this. That's how we got it. Another flag on the play. Let me explain something to you, Jada. At first, he was like, yo, Jada got to talk. They was giving me the other side of it. Who gives a fuck? We're the number one podcast in the game. I got the empirical data. Everybody can lie about what they want to talk about, the inflated numbers. I got the fucking empirical. Google that. Empirical data. I got it. Only guy with more views. Only guy with more views than us if we keeping this shit a buck, it's Shannon Sharp.

26:49And it's Shannon Sharp because he had fucking Cat Williams go up there and do a hundred million when Cat Williams decided to crash the fuck. That's the Hudson plane. Like, with the shit Cat Williams did, that nigga took that shit to a whole decimal point. Cool. We right behind him. Everybody else is way behind us. Everybody. We're geared to, I don't give a fuck what you want. I got the numbers. we make something out of nothing God bless us, people love this show this ain't your normal dinosaur podcast this shit is like a fucking sitcom it's like the honeymoon in Sanford and Son, we got all shit going on here, people in tune that love me sometimes when we got guests that don't have that fluidity cause I don't know why some people do the podcast or do interviews, not just mine They come here like somebody forced them to come here.

27:47And I got to get something out of them. So I got to tell a story to make them feel comfortable to do whatever the fuck I could do on earth for these motherfuckers to talk. Right? With that being said, we're the number one podcast in hip-hop culture. I don't know. Okay, listen. You got the imperial. No, no, no, no. What I didn't realize is that. Shout out to the staff. because you clip, you do everything, you produce it well, but this shit is our shit. The shit we talking, we putting, I don't know about you, I said it halfway, now you fucked. You with Fat Joe. You always with Fat Joe. At first, you could have got out of here and still be in the, ha ha ha!

28:29Now you guilty by association. You fucked. You all the way locked in. But at first, I'm telling all these stories, clowning myself, glizzy this, this, that, this, this, this, this, this. I'm not the same Fat Joe. That's why you see niggas playing with me in the dirty section like they think oh he's rich he's a nice guy these guys wouldn't fucking they couldn't clean my socks so i go like this all right cool i'm doing whatever so we could do exactly what we're doing the number one rated show we got the biggest deal at fucking netflix we good to go the point is what you not realize is the last time i dealt with corporate America is the time when I put out an album and I sell two million records and a white nigga comes with me to accept the award that I never met in my life who told me he A &R'd the album.

29:20Cardi B wins the award. Some dude she never met in her life go stand next to her at the Grammys and takes the credit. We call that Monday Morning Quarterback. Now we got the biggest show. We find yeah, Fat Joe talks too much. Yeah, he cuts niggas off. We know that. He has a problem with that. Yes, I know that. You want me to fucking lie to you? I know I have a problem. The problem is... The problem is, it's working. Talk your shit. So now you get some white nigga from Seattle or Washington State. Who knows what's the biggest shit we got under our shit? Yo, Joe and Jada, they going to Netflix. They the biggest.

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35:10You don't tell me what to do. Listen, guys, I could take the show on the road, pack this shit up, and quit the podcast game. I don't give a fuck. but one thing you're not gonna do is I let them do that shit to me we talked about the other day I fucking manufactured a number one record I hate that shit I don't even want to perform it but you know they gasped me get a number one we went and did the most corny shit shit went number one but these guys know how to come and start trying to change shit and I had something to say with it get the fuck out of here if it ain't broke don't fix it yes America I have a problem them.

35:47But let me tell you what it is. They call me one of the greatest storytellers of all time. My audience, my original audience, is my projects. I used to stay up every summer day to six in the morning talking shit. 30 of us girls, guys, we just telling stories. That's how I learned how to storytell because I got to invent shit. We dead broke. We in the projects. We got to invent stories. We got to this and this and that. So the way I tell a story is I can look at you in the dark room and I gotta have you there. What Chico did now. What Tashim did now. What this I gotta make you be at present at the story.

36:35Right? So I'm giving you this whole story. Then it's all timing. The reason why the show is timing. Your humor is incredible. You might call you Grady because you one of the niggas. You say some shit. I get it on the way home. I don't even catch your shit while we shooting. I go home and watch the replay and the man is sniping everything. Oh my God, this guy's killing me, right? So the point is, we got the biggest deal. Nobody ever been in a podcast game for six months and went and got a deal with fucking Netflix. Nobody ever had every guest you ever thought. We turn the niggas down. The biggest people every day begging to come on the show, right?

37:17So I know that somebody want to fuck this up. Somebody want to come in and say, change the energy, the direction of where you're going. Yo, you want me to be, you want me to try one or two weeks not saying nothing, Fat Joe, on the side like this?

37:34James, Mr. Producer, do you want me to try that? Do I want you to try to give a plane? Shut the fuck up, Fat Joe just here. I'm here, thank you for your money. I don't want you to just shut the fuck up. Fat Joe like this. I want you to give a lane to the guests that are here. Think about it like a feature on a song. You featured on a song. You want someone singing over your verse. Do you know what happens to me? By the way, the guests ain't saying that. The guests love it. They come here. They know I'm crazy. They know I'm 730. But let me tell you something. I got to go to the back. So you leaving me talk by myself?

38:06I got to do that. I'm waiting for you, Dad. J.D. Kiss on some bullshit. Let me tell you something. You on some bullshit. This is going to do numbers. Huh? This segment's going to do numbers, by the way. This segment's going to do numbers? They all do numbers. They all do numbers. Oh, this one's going to do numbers. They all do numbers. You hear that? You hear that, nephew? Yo, yo, you hear that, nephew? This one's going to do numbers, huh? What the fuck? Y 'all think we do numbers by mistake? No, of course not. It's a miracle. I know what the fuck going on out there. Y 'all got me fucked up. I captivate the audience.

38:42You know what? I got to go to the bathroom, too. Oh, you got to go. Damn, the whole team is quitting. they boycotting right now. The whole set is going, I don't give a fuck guys. I'll take that from you two time to fell it. I'll take that from you. I take that from you. Cause you're one of us. So when my man named two time, a felon say, your Joe just chill. But let me tell you what happens to me. I wanted to say it in front of Jada. The shit that fucks me up. Right. Is. This is a show. That we. are trying to do the impossible, being positive, giving flowers and uplifting the culture. That is not where society is.

39:25When you watch the news, the first 20 minutes is who got killed, who got stabbed on the train, who beat up a conductor, who killed the bodega man. This niggas want controversy. When you look at these podcasts, everybody's dissing your mother, you're this, this, this, this. They feel like that's the only way to bring the views up. We even got my brothers doing rap battles over podcasts and shit. Right? So everybody feel like the way to the promised land is everybody dissing each other. All right, kiss. Unfortunately, me and you. Let's go. We chose to be the Harriet Tubman to the game. What the fuck?

40:09You're not listening. We the underground railroad. we are here to preserve the culture we are here to give people flowers we are here to do this positive I don't know if you turned around nobody wins positive that's why when you watch the news they be like 10 people killed today you watch all these other rap hip hop podcasts they got you believing it they gotta diss each other and diss people and doing all that to get you gotta leave the dirty section alone no they ain't the dirty section Yeah, but I'm telling you, the same thing you saying is what you doing to the dirty section. No, fuck the dirty section.

40:47Nah, let them get they back. No, they call my mother Leslie. Fuck them. We not even talk. You want me to leave the dirty section? Yes. All right, I'll leave them alone. Let them get they back. That's what you want me to say? Yeah, man. They love this shit. They feel like they get acknowledged. Yeah, but there's another way to acknowledge them. All right, I ain't going to diss the back. Don't diss the dirty section no more. Nah, those are my... Okay, that's it. We move on. No more A.R. No good morning in Vietnam. Fuck you niggas and sup my dick, nigga. I'm going to chill for Kiss. I'm going to chill for Kiss.

41:19Listen. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That's going. Listen. Yo. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm going to tell you what my problem is and y 'all don't understand. So we got a positive show. Yo. We going to. I ain't say that, dick. Follow up with, so we got a positive show. We do. Yo, Kiss, you know why? You don't be in the dirty section. Them niggas be killing me in the dirty section. Because you bothering them. They got me gay. They got me gay. They got me. I'm a rat. I'm a gay. I'm pussy. I'm a thief. I'm a thief. You can't even forget. Like, I've been called everything. You let all of us bother. And you know.

41:53I've been called everything in the game. Now, let me explain something to you, baby. The problem is, this is the problem. This is the shit y 'all might not understand or don't like is if I'm interviewing somebody, we already going against the grain because we trying to be positive. So if I see somebody here, legend, and while I ask them a question and they speaking, I think of some shit, like, viral that they got something. And I stop and be like, but what about that? Just let them finish. And then say the shit you think of. That's what we say. That's what the problem. My feelings are hurt, kid.

42:27The French is here about to tell us Nas and he was in the desert. We got the Samoans here. Yo! Yo! Yo, that's my man, Rocco and Rocco. Who's the wrestler? Nah, if y 'all can see our crew outside. We got all the United Nations. Who's my man? Tatiki, what's the guy from home? This thing is wild today. I don't know, Rich. What kind of diet? What did you spike him with, dog? He's crazy. Oh, shit. I'm no different than the little niggas. The little niggas, they made something out of nothing. and they got to the paper, I can't tell them shit. The odds of you becoming successful as a rapper is one in maybe 100 million.

43:13And when I see a young boy over there in Bugattis and shit like that, even if I know what's good for him, I can't tell him nothing. Because he made the impossible happen. But when you fuck with me and you poke the bear, I turn into the little niggas. Because you can't tell me shit. We turned this bitch up. These guys wish. These competition, these podcasts, they loving this show. They're like, please slow them down. They calling me. Please talk them off. They calling me telling me to tell you to chill. I'm telling you. Yo, listen, yo, K, the competition, they loving this show. This episode, they like, yes.

43:50Stop that nigga. He's a freight train moving. This guy knows where he's going. He says, I touched the third rail, the algorithm, the disc. I know what it is. It's cool. today in hip hop and culture we're gonna be dinosaurs and follow the instructions today in the year 2005 Serena Williams won the get the fuck out of here Kassanat making the biggest mistake of his life he's the number one streamer he getting to the bad and he I wrote something too I wrote a bar Jadakiss bar Kassanat He's saying he gonna leave streaming to get into fashion. I said, don't leave while you hot. That's how Mace screwed it up.

44:39Kanye West said that. Don't leave while you hot. That's how Mace screwed it up. Don't leave. You know, DJ Khaled, he ain't just become successful. When he was a DJ, I don't give a fuck if he had COVID or flu. He walked in that studio and he DJed. He never let no other DJ DJ behind him because he said that guy might be better than me. He costs one tenth of what I charge. You can't leave the slot and let Ice Speed and all them dudes run with them Aiden Rosses and all them guys. They're going to take the slot. And you over here, let's hope he know about fashion. Because everybody, you know, all the ballplayers want to rap.

45:21Rappers want to ballplay it. that this Master P left the game to go play baseball, basketball. This is fucking crazy. Now Kaz does not want to do fashion. I'm not saying Kaz ain't the limit. He said he's retired. No, no. Here's the actual what he said. He's not officially done. He's going on a hiatus. When he said he quit, he meant it more as a metaphor. He has a brand that he's trying to get going. I believe in it, and I might buy some of his clothes. What I'm saying is don't stop the bread and butter. just like aspiring rappers out there. Keep that nine to five. Keep that A plan. If you rap and you come off, and if you're making a living off of rapping, if you're streaming somebody supporting, then you're a rapper.

46:07Or if you're a guy that nobody's paying attention to, y 'all listen, man. You talking to the wrong guy. I got so many people I know that think they're rapping. like I yo bro if you ain't got a following if you ain't got people tuning in if you ain't got nobody telling you oh by the way you nice this this that other than your crew you're not professionally rapping it's just what it is so Kyle said nah the biggest streamer in the world don't leave the bread and butter do I think you can have a successful clothing brand absolutely I never looked at young Doug and say, oh, I want to wear that. Whatever he's wearing, but that motherfucker selling some clothes.

46:52Young Doug, he sells clothes. So why couldn't Kyson not do it? I believe it. LeBron had the answer for Rich Paul saying, trade Austin Reeves. He said the other... Remember LeBron wasn't playing and Austin Reeves was scoring 40 points a game with him and the other white boy? LeBron didn't say that. Rich Paul said that. Why? The kid was killing before LeBron came back. It's the fucking point I made on this show. That you shot me down. Will you listen? Everything is numbers. With Luka and AR on the court, there's no defense. You can say whatever the fuck you want. Jared Jackson from Memphis will help the Lakers tremendously if they did that.

47:41Not saying about the thing, rather than that, with Luka and AR's on the thing. They both going to have 50 and 40. And they man's going to have 60 and 90. So they need some defense. I think we got one in the Knicks. Tyler Kolick, I think he's one of them. And I hope, just like Pachula bust our ass yesterday in Sacramento, I hope we don't get rid of Tyler Kolick one day and he busts everybody ass. Because when you put him on the field, he remind me of Rondo. He see the whole court. He see the whole, all right. Amy Koshue. I know about Kolek and my shit. Yeah, one of them joints is one of them guys that's going to slip away and watch them light up the whole league.

48:25I'm talking about trading them. They ain't trading Kolek. No, but they always do. They talk about trading Austin Reeves. That's our Austin Reeves, Kolek. You don't think so? No. He didn't. Austin Reeves, he got to do a little bit more to get Austin Reeves right now. No, no, no. yes, but what I'm saying is I see flashes of it. I see flashes of it. And the problem we've always had as Knicks fans is they get rid of the guy, he becomes a superstar somewhere. That's a nasty habit. Fetty Wap is home. So he's not rapping about jail. He's rapping about hits. He's trying to knock him out the park. He wants shits out the park.

49:08He ain't even with that. He could do it. He go over there. Can he? He put out four number ones in America. not the fake number ones, not one, not just urban, urban rhythmic pop. He put out four. Why was he allegedly selling drugs? I just don't understand. With a guy with four number ones on a crackhead day, you can make 25 ,000. I used to tell Remy all the time. I said, yo, Remy, we can make 5 ,000 a show. I'm telling you at the lowest budget. I said, we can make$5 ,000 a show and do four or five a week,$25 ,000 a week. It's the best life in the world. If we fell the fuck off the most, we can make us$5 ,000 a show, five of them a week.

49:55You're still living in a nice house, getting to the bag. Who the fuck told Fetty Wap to even be in that type of situation with four number ones on earth? you know what a number one gets you? Four of them? Horrible. Whoever was around them was horrible, bad people. I suggest, Fetty Wap, if you listen to me, you know I love you, brother. Don't hang around with them people. Don't get them back around you. I made the mistake two, three times. You know, I told you this. I said the story already, but this is a relevant story. Feds come take all my money. Wasn't even my fault, guys. I've done everything.

50:42The fucking accountant ain't pay the taxes. I showed him he didn't pay the taxes. They say you as the leader of your household are responsible for who you hire. They leave me dead broke. Dead broke meaning I had a little maybe 400, 500 in the bank. I'm used to M's, right? So I'm feeling unfluidity. Yo, feeling unfluidity. Yeah, I'm feeling unfluidity. but the blessing and the curse of my rap career is I came out was a slow burner flow Joe digging in the crates then I knocked on out the park I think we dug in what's love and we drive we flying private planes with 20 guys everybody got Cadillac trucks 20 dudes crowd electric steak and lobster every day.

51:32I go broke. I get on my knees. I beg God, because you got to really get on your knees. I keep praying to God, this, this, that. I got lucky. He throws me lean back, a smoker. All of a sudden, the same guys I was hanging with, by you, I forgot. They left me. It wasn't like K and you. They left. All those guys left, nephew. You got to understand, every bum nigga that I fed lobster and steak every day, Bought them champagne. Bought them cars. Paid their rent. They all left. All of them. I come back with lean back. They all on the private again. Boom back. They riding around with me. We chip lobster steak again.

52:15We did it. That's one thing motherfuckers say. Motherfuckers say we did it. When you sitting on your couch. Dead broke. Praying for your phone to ring. and motherfuckers acting like you got AIDS or some shit, they staying away from you. We do lean back. I go for the same mistake. Number one, they all hanging out with me. They eating lobsters. They drinking champagne. They this, this, that. How about I catch the fed case? This is really bad. Because I'm sitting on the couch. All I really had was Rich the Barber with me on the couch. He would bring me a Haagen-Dazs. Not good for diabetics. I'm telling y 'all not to do it, but I would just eat a Haagen-Dazs.

52:59Like a fat boy stressed out. Vanilla Swiss Album. One of the best ones. So I'm up in there and I'm looking and I got people all around. People I helped. People this. Nobody called and said, can I help you, Joe? Nobody. When I say nobody, nobody came and said. When I went to jail, nobody went by my wife and said, yo, here 10 grand for the culture. The man done popped so many bottles for us. The man done bought so many lobsters. Nobody gave$5 ,000 to my family. He said, here you go. In fact, while I was in jail, dead broke, I was still paying everybody's bills. Not just my family, my guys. Still paying their bills while I'm in jail.

53:44Bro. Cool. Come back out. I'm really done. I told the story the other day. The game change. We put out All the Way Up. All the Way Up plays one day on a Thursday. Friday night, Aces. Remember how fly that strip club was in Queens? Aces said, yo, we want to do a single release. I'm telling you now, I understood the Max B coming home shit, right? Because New York City, although we started hip-hop, they be thirsty for a win. Like a win? Some type of a win? That club one day later was on tilt. The walls are sweaty. It's so sweaty in there, the floors you slide and walk through to your section. It was so lit in there.

54:33It was like, yes, New York got one. We're back. Like they acted like that. I fight to get in my VIP. Guess who's in my VIP? All the dudes that didn't call me they wasn't fucking with me they left me for dead they left me all the same dudes I forgave them two times in a row when I went broke so we in the club we loving it walking out me Remy lights is on and I get to the door and when I get to the door I turn around I said Pistol Rich Percy all these niggas every one of them you you I left no mistake for judgment I left nobody saying I know you ain't talking to me you you I was almost in convulsions you you're like this just like this I might be doing less my high blood pressure must have been on I don't want to see none of you niggas again in my life none of you.

55:51I'm screaming in the middle of the club. I turn around and walk away. Remy turn around because Remy, you know, she more of a dude than a dude. Remy turn around like, yo, you heard the guard. None of y 'all niggas come around us no more. It's over for y 'all. I don't know if Fetty Wap gonna say it the same way. Can I get a water? But the truth is he need every bad influence away from him so he can run it up. He could get to the bag and he could keep his bag because he went to jail, real jail. I seen the jail pictures. He wasn't in no fucking camp. He wasn't in no... He was in jail, jail. Like, you know what that tastes like.

56:33You don't want that shit. So you need to be focused. Big up. Freddie Wap, I do believe he's going to come with another hit. Welcome home. Untitled. You guys want me to talk about something else, guys? I've been seeing since after the Max and French episode, groups acting like you did, you try to rob them or you did bad business, I'll be the first one to tell you, I did songs for mad people that blew out the water. You see them, they're like, thank you, kiss. They're definitely not pulling out their phone call and their lawyer right there telling them, yo, give them 10%, 5%, 2%, whatever it is.

57:12So I got to give you your props and flowers for doing that type of business because some people got it Michigan screwed like you could tell French wasn't really happy. All he was doing was telling you what happened with the song all the way up. And for you to tell your lawyer to fix it and give them some percentage right there, that's solid shit that never goes on since this game started. It's niggas that still got biggest percentage of Sugar Ale gang. And they dead. They still here. So if y 'all don't know about this business game, you find out what's going on. That's what I think. I think they don't know about the business.

57:49What happens is I could give you one better than French. French ain't right the hook. I told somebody that. Y 'all called the men just to say, y 'all already had them. You called them to say, we have the hook. I think if the people would have knew that, then there's nothing you can see. But what happens is when the people write the hook, they the people who really deserve the publishing. When you say it's a performance, Roy. Infrared. Shout out to Inf. Inf, my brother. he wrote the hook he got his publishing he cashed a million dollar checks okay Infrared yo he was bugging Infrared bought a Lamborghini he was throwing hundred dollar bills in the middle of Club Live he thought that shit would never run out but yo Inf I love you man thank you but French didn't even write the hook he can't be said it now because the record is I believe in everybody winning that's just always been my theory so you know I made sure he got he said five I'm gonna go get the accurate number through my lawyer but I believe it was ten but I gave it to him because when he asked for the ten that shit unforgettable God is great for French Montana because French Montana was a little cold before all the way up keeping it real with you all the way up rings off and then he come with the glazes of ice the unforgettable that shit was like unforgettable So when he told me, he said, yo, you know, I gave you the million dollar voice.

59:21I looked at him. I said, nah, this nigga got to get his. He got to get his publishing now because this guy, he earned it. But usually. You know, if you want to say I take advantage, the guy we really gave the most of the publishing to was a really. He wasn't French Martinez infrared and if caught his published. everybody who played on the show caught they publishing but y 'all

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1:02:21All right, I told you about this. You didn't want to believe me, Kiss. Timothy Shalamet is the truth. It's the golden gloves where our sister Golden Globes Golden Globes Golden Globes Tiana Taylor took that motherfucker that boy Timothy Chalamet that was the most in that whole shit was the most telling shit in the world I don't think Leonardo DiCaprio ever lost an award George Clooney Leonardo DiCaprio this nigga fried all of them I know they were sitting in that chair They learned something that day. They said, oh, it's a new sheriff. It's a new sheriff in town. That young boy swept them. Same category with their face.

1:03:13They put five guys' faces. George Clooney, Leonardo, for sure Leonardo was with it. I'm watching that. When I seen that, I said, the politics have changed this year. Timmy Chalamet, they moved him up. He beat the biggest of the biggest of the biggest. Charlamagne won the shit with all those guys Everybody you ever thought Was the greatest actor in the world Henry Hitchcock Of all the niggas He smoked all of them Went up there and even said a bullshit speech Henry Hitchcock He went up there and said a bullshit speech These Kardashian girls And I ain't got no beef with them I love them all but they know Your nephew Nephew You put out an album and you hit it out the park Henry Hitchcock, bitch Don't let the granddaughter of the Kardashians Come get you in Yonkers J-1 These women are meticulous If you're winning at any You could be the greatest surfer of all time That they say you break in the bank A Kardashian is on your ass If you look at Timothy Shalit With this girl It don't even look the same no no come on he changes his name every sentence I call myself I call myself the Forrest Gump of hip hop them bitches is the Forrest Gump of everything somebody going to the bank they want in they up in there I'm sorry Reggie Bush Reggie Bush won the championship he was the biggest nigga in the world and he grabs the mother and the daughter.

1:04:57He grabs Kim Kardashian. We're going to Disneyland. Bro, they everywhere. That's Forrest Gump shit. Like Timothy Chalamet? God bless him. You think that motherfucker that shit ain't premeditated that that girl's sitting next to the new Leonardo DiCaprio? Leonardo. And I got love for the Kardashians. It's hard to tell after he watched the premeditation murder. This is premeditated, guys. I saw a fake, I think it's AI, Wimby walking on the beach with Khloe Kardashian. I threw the flag. That was AI? Yo, it must have been. Don't say, oh, shit. Yo, it might not be AI? You know the league is Wimby's.

1:05:42I don't know it's AI. OKC can't even beat him. The league, the next 10 years, is a guy called Wimby Yamba. And San Antonio. Wimby Yamba. San Antonio, the whole team is phenomenal. And they got a picture of Chloe holding his hand on the beach. I guess it was a lot. It's bullshit. It's bullshit, but we believe it. We believe it. Yo, who believe it? Because they did that to everybody else. I don't believe it. We believe it. You believe it. I actually believe less now. When I'm online, I got a triple, quadruple check that shit. Everything's AI. Tell you the truth, you can't even like a pretty girl on AI.

1:06:19You can't look at that shit and really believe that's Rosalus Sunder because that's AI. Everything on there right now is AI. I don't know why niggas ain't winning fed cases. Give me a fed case. I'll be like, yo, y 'all fake my voice with AI. Prove it. Y 'all got the video. There's lawyers out here fake in real court. Jadakiss came out the hotel with the girl. Not Jadakiss with the dick. John Witherspoon and they making up AI showing them come out the fucking the hotel the AI shit is out of control am I lying or not? Do you look at Instagram and you see a beautiful woman and you say to yourself, even women you see a guy that's too good to be true he better have some people around him they better be eating buffalo wings at the game watching the game, you better see some type of texture with him because if all his pictures is him by the wilderness or him by on a motorcycle or him this that's your ai they caught your man i said that too you know they caught matt barnes he sent the ai girl 61 000 and the dm you know that right google that only fans they had an ai that he thought he was really talking to a girl She gassed him.

1:07:39He sent the$61 ,000. Matt fucking Barnes, who's not an ugly motherfucker and got money. And I'm like, what the fuck? AI is risky business right now. Am I lying? It says a post in blogs claimed that Barnes was extorted between 23 and 24 by someone using AI deepfakes around$61 ,000 to a woman known as Zoe. Barnes called the whole thing an internet lie, saying he did not get scammed by an AI model and is not serious. That was AI. See? That was AI. He's saying he didn't do it. His scam was AI. It wasn't even true. They scammed the story. Yo, I can do it. Yo, they scammed the story. He never, he's saying that's not true.

1:08:22He specifically called out blogs and social accounts for pushing the narrative without checking with him. Telling people to stop believing every damn lie. You owe yourself a flag for that. By the way, I'm using an AI tool to figure all this out, just so you know. Let me explain something to you, right? People ask me all the time. And I want you to really fuck the funny shit. Fuck the bugging out. Fuck all that. I want you to dig deep. I really want you to concentrate on what I'm about to say. Because too many people come up to me every day. I don't care if I'm in the doctor's office, I'm anywhere and they ask me about dealing with family members that pass away.

1:09:09Before my mother passed away, it was the biggest fear I ever had in my life. I'm going to be honest with you. I thought I might go schizophrenia. Like I thought I might just lose my marbles. You know, your mom's gives you the biggest safety in the world. I don't give a fuck. I used to have the world against me and I go to my mother's house and she ain't know why and I sit at the end of the couch and she rub my feet. I mean, the world, it could be 50 cent beef on 10. This, this, I don't care. I go to my mother's house, she rub my feet and I feel like a kid again. The safety you lose for losing loved ones is devastating.

1:09:52But I'll tell you a quick story. One of my best friends got murdered in front of my building many, many years ago. right? And so I live in a big, big project where everybody came outside. It was like 500 people outside. And everybody's looking at the body on the floor. You know, about five, six hours later, the coroner comes, they take the body. They come and they wash off the blood. This is before they was doing shrines and shit. They wash off the blood off the floor. The second the crowd disperses and everybody's leaving and the old man comes home, it's not his fault. The old man comes home from working all day, parks his station wagon right where the body was at, got out, went upstairs.

1:10:43What that taught me at such a young age was life moves on. And no matter how depressed you are, no matter how stressed you are, no matter how you take it, you have to find a way to look towards the light. You're not doing nothing by making yourself feel terrible, sad, worse. Oh, I can't enjoy this meal. I can't love the day. You gotta look towards the peace. Whatever makes you happy, because once you fall that way, it's too hard to dig out of there. So what I'm saying to you is that while you bullshitting and thinking people care about somebody who died in your family. Somebody's looking to take your job.

1:11:31Somebody's looking to catch you off point now. Now you ain't strong. With me, I ain't gonna lie, I promise you. I went into depression for two years straight. When Punt, my sister, my grandfather died around the same week or whatever. It was overwhelming for me. I couldn't deal with it. That's the first time in my life that niggas try to play with me. It's the first time in my life it was visible to people that knew me. This guy ain't all there. It ain't the same fat Joe. He ain't the lion. You know, don't be scared of him. He lost it. He's washed up. He got fatter, 200 pounds more. This is the shit that they were thinking.

1:12:16Because when you were off and you depressed and you walking around every day, they'll start playing with you. So all I can say to you is try to stay in the light and in the positive. You're not earning no type of equity or anything with being depressed and saying, oh, why this happened? This, I know we got emotions. We got to deal with it, but you got to move forward. I've been getting that. A friend of ours, his mom's just really, really sick and it looks like really, really sick. And so I had to explain this shit to him. And, you know, every day people come up to me, yo, I know you had a horrible year.

1:12:55You lost your mother, your father, your brother. How you deal with it? I don't know how I deal with it, but I know that I stay in the light because I was depressed for two years. Fuck money. They was playing with me. You know, I've been depressed to the point where, you know, I got mad if people were happy. I'm sitting there, somebody laughed at a movie or something. I used to be mad, like, yo, why they laughing? You wake up in the morning instead of enjoying the sunny day. Like right now, we call each other. We like, yo, God, it's great. Blessed day. I used to wake up on the sunniest day and be like, y 'all, fuck this day.

1:13:30This shit ain't, you know. So it's like, listen, guys, it's a real thing when you lose parents, you lose siblings, you lose best friends, families. but you have to try to stay positive because life will move on. And Rich, a really good friend of ours, his mom's, you know, she got the cancer to where they can't get it out. So we don't talk about politics, but we got to weave oblivious to life if we don't at least mention what's going on with ICE. each his own bottle 1800 what'd they do? The difference is right? What did the ice do? The difference is six crazy. No. I can't think. They killed the woman.

1:14:22They killed the woman. I'm not laughing at that. No. I'm laughing at you. Because you don't know what's going on? I don't know where we the country's in a very delicate state even somebody who i think pushed trump to be president somebody who really has a joe rogan got the biggest following in the world right they actually said that when joe rogan co-signed trump he got all the middle-aged men in America, his word did this. He tilt the scale of justice. They ran out there after he did that. And Kamala did not want to do Joe Rogan. She fucked up. She didn't want to touch the third rail. Trump went in there, touched the third rail, got him elected.

1:15:14Joe Rogan says, this shit is like Gestapo, like Hitler. What's going on out here? they're out here running in houses with the biggest guns you've ever seen in your life like Tony Montana guns to pull out an immigrant that works hard, he's the Uber driver he's this, he's that, they said they were going to get the criminals out, hey get the criminals out, get the rapists out, get the drug dealers fuck them, send them back to wherever you're going to send them, when you're really going to schools grabbing mothers that are dropping their kids off at school That's what the whole uproar is about. Now they shot another person last night in Minnesota.

1:15:55So I'm watching the mayor of Minnesota talking about, yo, I got the police. Mayor of Minnesota does not want ICE in this town. Trump just tripled up. Sent a thousand more out there. They killed the lady there. They shot another guy in the lane. They antagonizing the people to flip. I don't even want to say what I'm thinking in the back of my mind. And guess what? That's not black and brown people in the middle of that street below zero going up against ICE. Those are all white people. I've never seen white people. This ain't George Floyd. This is white people fighting ICE and the police. Guys like James is in front line talking about fuck ICE.

1:16:40This America is in a scary, scary place where the mayor said, I got my cops. He said, I have 600 police and they're fighting ice. You ever seen some shit like this? The mayor said straight up. The mayor said out of Minneapolis. I got one better for you. Yeah. He said, get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Forget that. You know what he said last night? We have 600 police, Minnesota police, fighting ice in the street. What the fuck does that mean? America's fighting America? The police is fighting the Fed office? Like, what the fuck is... Okay, guys, we get that on the way home. It's a scary time in America.

1:17:29He's calling this new wave of retaliation by Trump. my 600 against your federal army. And they just straight going up to people spraying them with pepper spray in their face. They running and do something. They don't need a warrant. They got mask on. They don't need a warrant. I don't give a fuck what you say to them. Actually, Trump and J.D. Vance said they got immunity for whatever they do. Ice. They can kill whoever they want to kill. We gotta know some biggers that work for ICE. They got the mask on. don't know who they are. ICE agents usually do not have the kind of warrant that lets them force their way to a home.

1:18:09They mostly use internal administrative warrants that are not signed by a judge. They're going to schools and churches pulling out people. They're going to people's house. The Uber driver, they went into Uber drivers. He's from like not, not Nigeria, or Liberia or something, and they drag them. They has guns. I'm scared of those guns. They don't got regular guns. These guys got rocket launchers in the air and running up in that crib. Should have went to Dr. Rock. I heard that snap. That's from doing some weights. I'm going to tell you about them weights. Everybody I know doing weights got back problems.

1:18:49Back surgery. Lightweight, my brother. Lightweight. We know four people who got back surgery this month. Ruben Diaz Jr., Slow, my man Jeff Aronson, my partner, we rewind it to... I can tell you four guys who is... What's the decent way to say it so I don't get a flag? In good... Pretty good shape. Pretty good shape. They just got four back surgeries. I can tell you one who ain't. Me. I ain't getting back surgery. Well, you better not. You're not getting back surgery? Nothing wrong with my back.

1:19:28you get that all the way on we'll end it with this because you know on a lighter note what do you think is one of the biggest breakups in hip hop history that if they wouldn't have broke up it would have been the most successful shit where's the fat boys break up did the fat boys break up or that was just a bar the fat boy Buffy and them they broke up that's news to me No, that's the bar. Yeah, but I... And then who else? The Fugees breakup? Yeah, but they got back somewhat. Prowse is doing 60 ,000 years. You want me to say mine? John Forte just died, though. Yeah, rest in peace. Shout out John Forte.

1:20:13I had songs with him. He was a good brother. Rest in peace. Rough life. Rough life. John Forte, Fugees. You want me to give you mine? Because mine's premeditated. I might as well say it. I feel like the worst breakup in hip-hop history, they could have ran it up Legend's 50 Cent again. That right there was the new emergence of Snoop and Dre. The records they made, the shit they made was so classic. Listen, I wasn't getting along with 50 at the time, and I knew that shit wasn't. I guess he'll say all money ain't good money, right? Because they was on fire. what if Game of 50 would have stood together we would have had crazy classic albums who you dating all the notes oh man that's that fuck that's how you want the fucking he want the motherfucker with the funny face who lost to Timmy Chalet on the show they tell him yo where kiss who do you want on the show John Withingspoon the third Elliot Splitzer or this.

1:21:21I feel like Banks with 50. I wish Banks was still with 50. Feel like he got slighted. Banks is dumb nice. By the way, guys, Merry Christmas. It took long to get here. Shout out to Mike the Jeweler. Here's your Christmas gift, brother. Elizabeth! I'm coming. My brother! Here's your Christmas gift. You see that shit, bro? You see that shit, They say Fat Joe don't take care of his people. Look at this shit. Definitely take care of his people. Oh, Open Z Box. Perhaps. Perhaps something for the nose. Perhaps something for the nose. Perhaps something for the nose.

1:22:08Mike the Jewel of 145th and Broadway, right? He charged me a lot. I don't know why I'm plugging him up like that. Oh, Joey Jada. I see that.

1:22:22That ain't live, Donnus. That ain't that live. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking gifts, motherfuckers. Boom, boom, you okay? You see that shit? You see that shit, I see? You can't even see your face on that shit right there. That shit got so much. Is it nice? It's beautiful. Thank you, my brother. Biggest show in the game, man. Go fuck yourselves and you don't like us. This ain't that, that ain't this. It's cracking kiss. I can kiss you son of a bitch.

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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are back in Jay-Z's favorite format: no guests! Joe and Jada address some of the fans' criticisms of Joe talking over guests during interviews, people misinterpreting French Montana's story about "All The Way Up" from their episode with him and Max B, A$AP Rocky's wild streaming numbers with his new album 'Don't Be Dumb,' Fetty Wap coming home, Jalen Brunson getting injured in the New York Knicks game against the Sacramento Kings, Ja Morant demanding a trade from the Memphis Grizzlies, Joe and Jada guest Teyana Taylor winning a Golden Globe for her performance in 'One Battle After Another,' Timothée Chalamet beating out Leonardo DiCaprio to win himself a Golden Globe for Best Actor, and Kai Cenat claiming that he's "retiring" from streaming to pursue a career in fashion. Jada also shouts out J. Cole ahead of his album 'The Fall Off' and Joe debates how he feels about Cole after he bowed out of the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake.

3:00 - Joe isn't sure about A$AP Rocky's numbers

5:45 - Do you look at J. Cole the same after Drake-Kendrick beef?

12:00 - Jalen Brunson's injury

17:15 - Ja Morant wants out of Memphis

21:00 - Teyana Taylor taking home the Golden Globe

23:30 - Addressing the "Joe talks too much" criticisms

37:30 - How Joe learned to tell stories

46:00 - Kai Cenat RETIRING from streaming?

50:30 - Fetty Wap coming home

58:00 - Fans got French Montana's "All The Way Up" story wrong

1:05:30 - Timothée Chalamet beating out Leo

1:08:30 - Everything is A.I. now

1:11:45 - Joe's advice for dealing with loss

1:17:00 - ICE terrorizing Minneapolis

1:22:30 - Worst rap group breakups

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