In short
Fat Joe and Jadakiss visit Mario Carbone’s Carbone restaurant kitchen to cook and discuss Italian-American food, hip hop, and Carbone’s neighborhood roots, plus stories about celebrity guests and the restaurant’s “traditional but perfected” approach.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Fat Joe: Bronx-born rapper, long-time Carbone regular; discusses hip-hop memories and Italian-American identity through food.
- Jadakiss: Yonkers rapper; jokes about being “Italian” via heritage talk and family assumptions.
- Mario Carbone: Restaurateur/chef figure behind Carbone; emphasizes classic Italian-American technique and neighborhood history.
- Chef Paulie and Ricky “the Face” Tinelli: kitchen leadership and long-time staff; Ricky is the well-known “spokesman”/fish specialist.
Key claims
- Carbone keeps food simple and classic (vodka sauce framed as New York, not Italian) while making it “the best you’ve had.”
- The restaurant preserves an old Genovese block history and aims to keep old-school places alive.
- Carbone’s access is hard; Mario and guests trade “plugs” and stories about getting in.
Notable examples
- Cooking linguine with clams (Long Island/Montauk clams), Dover sole, and Bronzino; Ricky’s table filleting.
- Stories: President Obama (with Secret Service protocols), Hov and Elon Musk fighting over the bill, and a lasagna made for Martin Scorsese.
- Discussion of Frank Sinatra and Italian-American music/identity; hip-hop “album of the summer” memories.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Italian Community and Personal Stories
2:16 to 4:00
Explore the connection between Joe, Jada, and the Italian community through personal anecdotes.
“Sometimes it's just about what's in your hand.”
Cooking with Chef Paulie
4:00 to 5:30
Chef Paulie introduces seafood dishes and discusses cooking techniques.
“He runs the kitchen around here when I'm not around.”
Signature Dishes and Culinary Philosophy
5:30 to 7:40
Joe and Jada learn about Carbone's signature dishes and the philosophy behind traditional Italian-American cuisine.
“I add a lot of onion to it, so it's kind of sweet, creamy, and then the spice at the end.”
The Importance of Quality Ingredients
7:40 to 9:50
Discussion on the significance of using high-quality, fresh ingredients in cooking.
“I can probably cut something, but I can't cook.”
Memorable Dining Experiences
9:50 to 12:20
Mario shares memorable moments from his restaurant, including celebrity encounters.
“So it's important here, when you finish the pasta, you leave a good amount of liquid in there, and then the last minute, you turn the fire all the way up, and you let the noodle drink the sauce up.”
The Legacy of Frank Sinatra
12:20 to 14:00
A light-hearted conversation about Frank Sinatra's influence and legacy in Italian culture.
“So I knew a week in advance that he was coming, but I couldn't tell anybody.”
Nostalgic Conversations About Italian Culture
14:00 to 16:43
Explore favorite Italian foods and traditions, including personal anecdotes about Italian heritage.
“You also got the guy with the blonde hair, right?”
The Evolution of Italian Restaurants
16:43 to 18:50
Discuss the history of Italian restaurants in the neighborhood and their significance.
“Like, when I eat olives out there, I feel like, wow.”
Preserving Traditional Italian Businesses
18:50 to 21:58
Reflect on the decline of old Italian restaurants and the importance of keeping traditions alive.
“It doesn't have to be fancy or nothing like that.”
Passion for Food and Personal Journeys
21:58 to 23:28
Discover how personal experiences with food shape careers and passions.
“and tried to keep it going, keep this neighborhood going.”
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Memorable Dining Experiences in Queens
23:28 to 26:41
Relive memories of iconic dining experiences in Queens, focusing on their history and community impact.
“Like my grandparents and my family, it was always a big thing.”
Nori's Memorable Restaurant Experience
31:34 to 32:48
Listen to Nori's story about a memorable visit to an Italian restaurant and a chance encounter.
“He says one day he was, you know, he grew up in Lefrak.”
The Impact of the Local Scene
32:49 to 34:24
Discussion about the significance of local history and icons in culinary culture.
“Yeah, because all the movies we ever seen, every documentary, everything was that block.”
Mario's Culinary Establishments
34:25 to 35:39
Mario discusses the growth of his restaurant empire and the importance of good connections.
“It's the hardest restaurant in the planet Earth to get into.”
Celebrating Knicks' Wins
35:40 to 37:19
A conversation on the Knicks' recent victories and how fans react to celebrations.
“ZZ started in Miami because we wanted to do this sort of idea, this members club there.”
Family and Food in Italian Culture
37:20 to 39:26
Exploring the deep connection between family, food, and heritage in Italian culture.
“You were good with the level of celebration in relation to the victory.”
Culinary and Cultural Identity
39:27 to 42:00
Discussion on cultural identity through food and shared experiences among diverse communities.
“That's why food is so important, because that's where you get together.”
Future Visions and Business Philosophy
42:00 to 43:38
The discussion revolves around the future of their projects and the importance of passion over profit.
“We continue to not just take things for the money.”
Expanding Beyond Restaurants
43:38 to 45:26
The hosts discuss their vision of expanding their brand into hotels and communities.
“Yo, Ricky, let me see that tune over here.”
Culinary Moments and Hip-Hop Memories
45:26 to 47:26
The conversation shifts to food preparation while reminiscing about hip-hop experiences.
“But I always enjoy doing it because it's a beautiful fish.”
The Influence of Hip-Hop on Culture
47:26 to 49:16
Guests share their influential moments in hip-hop and its lasting impact on them.
“I mean, I remember where I was, like, kind of where I...”
Delivering Exceptional Dining Experiences
49:16 to 51:07
A chef recalls memorable dining experiences and interactions with famous guests.
“yo, walking with the panther, whatever wasn't it.”
Celebrity Dining Stories
53:16 to 56:01
The chefs share anecdotes about notable guests and their unique requests.
“PayCore's intelligent HR solution empowers leaders to turn down the pressure.”
Dining Experiences with Celebrities
56:01 to 58:25
Hear anecdotes about celebrity encounters and unique dining experiences.
“Then he made me take my jacket off because, you know, He said, you guys look a little too fancy.”
Reservation Challenges and Solutions
58:26 to 1:01:29
Learn about the challenges of dining without reservations and how connections can help.
“But you want me to say the name, I can't say the name.”
Critiquing Restaurants as a Chef
1:04:33 to 1:08:16
Explore the perspective of a chef when dining out and critiquing food.
“Yo, Mario, do I get a discount for buying a property in your building or something?”
Creating a Welcoming Restaurant Atmosphere
1:08:17 to 1:10:01
Understand the importance of making every guest feel special in a restaurant.
“All the ingredients of it is not just the food.”
The Culinary Experience at Carbone
1:10:01 to 1:11:00
Exploring the warm reception and memorable dining experience at Carbone.
“as when the door opens, they get hit with the music, the smell of the food.”
The Rainbow Cookie Debate
1:11:01 to 1:12:04
Discussion on the various names and history of the iconic Italian rainbow cookies.
“But nothing like, you know, Carbone is legendary.”
Sugar-Free Cookies and Local Favorites
1:12:05 to 1:12:40
Jada and Joe talk about their favorite local pastries and sugar-free options.
“He does it for me sugar-free out in Queens.”
A Heartfelt Thanks to Mario Carbone
1:12:41 to 1:13:30
Expressing appreciation for the guest, Mario Carbone, and his culinary contributions.
Transcript
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2:46start your summer rhythm with Starbucks try the new tropical butterfly refresher from Starbucks I feel like both you guys have been adopted by the Italian community he got something going on out there where it's to the point my daughter's asking me is he really Italian are you Italian you gotta get the 23 in me you're full of shit man
3:28What are you two doing back here? Mario! Welcome. You've been here enough. You've never been in the kitchen. I've never been in the kitchen. And this guy's never seen here before. How's that possible? No. Only in Miami. You can't get it? I've been in Miami. You can't get in there? That's the haunted reservation. You can't get in there? This is the - I can't get there. You better stop, man. This guy takes care of me to the ultimate. I feel like I should teach you a couple of things, because being that you're here a lot, in case I'm not here, maybe you could just jump in next time. Are you crazy?
3:57I can't make toast, man. Come back here. Uh-oh. This is Chef Paulie. Chef Paulie, what's up? Yo. How you doing? Jada. Chef Paulie. He runs the kitchen around here when I'm not around. We're going to do a couple of dishes today. We're going to do a couple seafood dishes. OK. I love seafood. Maybe some things you haven't had at Carbone before. Bronzino, huh? No, Doberso. Doberso? Doberso. I like Bronzino. Doberso's good. Doberso's good. They make it incredible with that Bronzino clean. We'll fire Bronzino after for lunch. That Bronzino, huh? Best Bronzino in the game. Best Bronzino in the game. That's awesome.
4:36I'm going to show you how to do this because you've never seen it before, and then we're going to do a Linguidian clam. You like Linguidian clams? I love linguine and clam sauce. Yes? Yes. You guys hungry? Yes. Do a little rigatoni later, too. Rigatoni, spicy rigatoni. You know, every restaurant needs a Big Mac. You know, when you go to, listen. Oh, you mean a signature? Yeah. You know, you go to McDonald's, you get a Big Mac. You go to Burger King, you get a Whopper. I don't think there's a customer that doesn't come to Carbone that don't want the spicy rigatoni. It's actually hard to go to an Italian restaurant now and not see a spicy rigatoni.
5:08Oh, you see it now, huh? It can't be. Oh, they shifted. I'm just saying. Everybody got a spicy reggaeton now. I should be collecting a vig on those restaurants. That's what I'm saying. They got it. We like spicy? Yeah, right? Yeah, let me ask you a question. Spicy reggaeton. Did they used to make the reggaeton spicy before you? Vodka sauce was always a New York thing, really. It's not an Italian thing. It's a New York thing. I played with it a little bit. How I make the noodles. I add a lot of onion to it, so it's kind of sweet, creamy, and then the spice at the end. It was a dish that no one thought a lot of.
5:44You know what I love about carbone? Although it's hard to get into, although very upscale, it's still traditional Italian food. Italian-American. Italian-American. Yeah. Meaning that you don't got fire coming out in the place. You know, you go to restaurants now, everybody got fire. You know, you get real food here. I thought it was important to make dishes that you've had before, but just try to make the best one that you've had, right? Things you understand. Like, I'm not trying to be the chef to impress you with something you never had before and be like, oh, this combination is this and that.
6:19And like, if you don't like it, well, maybe you didn't get it. Like, the artist in me is like, oh, you didn't get it. But like, I can't serve you a meatball and be like, oh, he didn't get it. It's probably just not good if he didn't like it, right? I don't have any net to fall back on. I got to make the best one. You know what a linguine vangole is. You know what a meatball is. Like, I don't got anything to hide behind. I got to make it great. Yes. White wine, fresh chilies, a little bit of garlic. Simple food. It's just simple food. It's just simple Italian-American food. Yeah, but you know how to make it.
6:49I got friends. No, no, I got friends use the same ingredients that will make it, and they don't taste nothing like they make it. They make it. That stuff's the same in all forms of art, right? Like, I mean, it's not just food, right? Like, the same analogy of make a classic better than the next guy's classic. Ours is bars, but the way Janekus put it together is different. You can't. You can't do it, right? Like, good luck. All right, we're going to steam our clams open. We got linguine cooking. So neither one of you guys cooks at home. No. Nothing. Nothing. You cook? No. What's the last thing you made?
7:26I can't make toast, bro. I burned the whole house up. You can make toast. Come on, man. Yo, listen, when I say I suck at cooking, I don't know how to make nothing. I set up a cutting board for you, but I'm a little worried that you're going to walk out of here with nine and a half. I can probably cut something, but I can't cook. These are some clams that I opened earlier, and then I marinate them. Like fresh oregano. Oh, yeah. No, but you got to do this. It's like Regis and Kelly. No, they say no Regis and Kelly. This is how I do it. You know how they come out with the dish already? Hey, this is how they.
7:59And then this is our pan. This is shaped this way for that fish exactly. This pan is made for that fish. Oh, that's damn. They love the dover soul. My family loves it. And then Ricky's going to show you how to filet litter at the table. Local clams. I love clams. You can't... Local clams? What does that mean? Local clams. And New York clams? Yeah, they're from Long Island. Montauk, Long Island, that area up there. Because that's almost like if you cross the water, you're in Maine and all that. Yeah, also great. You want cold water for shellfish. The colder the water, the better your shellfish.
8:33That's why when you go to the Caribbean, the lobster's like kind of questionable. Like that lobster's not as good as New England. It's a different kind of lobster. It's not as sweet. Like they need cold water. Hey, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you. You go to Japan, it's the best sushi in the universe. That's a different thing. Why is that? Well, many, many reasons. They have incredible fish, but that's only part of it. I mean, a lot of it is kind of the amazing training that they have. Like they take that training so serious. like way more serious than anybody. Like it takes, you know, 10 years before you're allowed to even, you know, cut a piece of fish, you know?
9:07You gotta be an apprentice. You gotta learn. You can't just pick up a knife. They don't play around like that. How long are not possible, Paulie? One minute. One minute. So you have the fresh open clams, then I have the marinated clams. It's important to mix them. This is how we do it around here. Paulie, your pan's ready for your soul over here. Man, the plants look good. I don't know if you guys have a cooking show in your future. Nah, I don't know. Maybe Jada... Nah. You know, I'm going to save it for the thing, but they think... My daughter thought Jada Kiss was really Italian. I also think Jada Kiss is Italian.
9:44I operated under that assumption. Yeah, Jada, my daughter was like, Yo, Dad, is Jada Kiss really Italian? I said, what the... Of course he is. I said, what you talking about? That's crazy. She said, yo, it's all over. So it's important here, when you finish the pasta, you leave a good amount of liquid in there, and then the last minute, you turn the fire all the way up, and you let the noodle drink the sauce up. Wow. You got Mario Carbone cooking. The ones and twos over here. He's usually just greeting everybody. Yo, what's up? Counting the money in the back. The hates are hanging out with somebody special.
10:21The hate is coming. Yo, Mario could cook. The hate is coming. Have they ever seen you cook live in person before? Who they? I mean, the people. Anybody. How do you think I got here? I cook. I've always seen you just socialize. I've never seen you in the kitchen like that. You were questioning whether I actually knew how to do it. I never did that. I never, I know I. You're always the real dude brother. In this kitchen, you can catch a suntan in the back of your neck. This joint right here. We're only cooking for one person. I got 300 people coming in here to find. That's a fish. All right, watch out.
11:02I'm going to complete your linguine here. We don't want no problem.
11:08Mario Capone, ah! Live in person, Thompson, Thompson Street. Italian-American neighborhood. Just like, just like. Not only when it feels hungry right now, like I'm like looking at this like I need that. I mean, no different than my people have been making for 100 years in this neighborhood. See how quick he did that. He's going to finish this fish. We're going to go make you a Bronzino, some rigatoni, and have some lunch. Oh, let's do it. Let's open a bottle of wine.
11:41So we here, Mario Carbone. Here we are, Table 40. Thank you for taking out the time. You know, last time I sat here, Derrick Jeter was there with his wife. Captain. On the other side, the captain was in here hanging out. He came here. His last game as a professional was a day game in Boston. And they drove straight here and they had an early dinner. I remember him walking in. Everyone kind of got up, gave him a standing ovation. It was really an amazing moment. He sat the corner over there. You've had some cool moments in here. Yeah, yeah. That was one of the many other epic moments? We had President Obama twice, once as the sitting president.
12:19So when you're the sitting president, there's a whole level of security. So I knew a week in advance that he was coming, but I couldn't tell anybody. I didn't even want to text anybody because I assumed that they were watching my phone. So I was like, I didn't want to tell anybody. So none of the staff knew. No one knew that the president was coming. It was like Friday night or something. And because it wasn't announced, no one in the dining room knew he was walking in either. So they assumed that everybody's safe because it's not an announced stop. And then as soon as he walks in, they set up protocols outside.
12:49So I have Secret Service in the kitchen. I have Secret Service at every spot, downstairs, everywhere. Cell phone blockers. Like, they shut down all the phones. And to have him walk in, to see people's faces, to have the President of the United States walk in out of nowhere. Wow. You know, amazing moment. To have the Secret Service back there. Crazy. That was a crazy man. That was a big night. Hov and Elon ate here once. I remember that. They ate here together. Hov and Elon Musk. Yeah. And they were fighting over the bill. Jay called me out to the kitchen. And he was like, can you explain to this man that it's been taken care of?
13:20And I was like, Mr. Musk, you realize the position I'm in right now, right? You know, Musk probably bought the building that night, huh? Yo, tell home I bought the building, huh? Got to make sure. But Jay had to make sure he paid. That's right. The world famous spicy Ricky Pond. Lobster red yoli. Lobster buttercream. Ricky Tinelli from Cook Avenue in Yonkers right here. Let me tell you something. Yo, baby. Wild. That's it, baby. This my guy right here. He's the face. No, no, he's the face. He's the spokesman. I'm surprised we got you. I thought we was coming to Ricky. That's why I call him the face.
13:53Yeah, really. Because everyone knows him. Everybody knows him. Wherever you set up shop, this is the guy right here. This is the Fischl Carbone guy. You also got the guy with the blonde hair, right? With the brownish hair. Works here. He been here with you for years. The little guy with the brown hair. Little guy with the brown hair. Ricky, little guy with the brown hair. He's your guy. He's not around anymore. That guy's not around anymore. He didn't make it? No, I'm not going to see him anymore. Sleep with the fish. Not going to see him anymore. Sleep with the fish. He was here, but... No, something happened.
14:26He's a nice guy. A nice guy. He's working a union turnpike. Tuna Calabrese style. I want to try that. You're going to do the dopa for us, right? Absolutely. Sleep with the pleasures. Sleep with the fishes. That is crazy. I asked you earlier often, but is there any Italian that doesn't love Frank Sinatra? No, it's illegal. There's police for that. They come to your house. You don't like Frank Sinatra. They find you. They check for the photo and they find you. Yo, that Frank Sinatra, the real deal, man. What a good guy, man. He was a man of morals and principle, man. More and more I looked into Frank Sinatra.
15:04He was really a great guy. Chairman of the board. Chairman of the board. Chairman of the board. So what made you... Before we start having dinner, our little lunch here, I have a surprise for both of you. Okay. I thought to live in the Italian-American lifestyle, Jada knows this because he's an Italian. Yeah, yeah. Living the lifestyle, I thought I would have a little surprise for you. I brought my tailor here. He's going to make you guys a soup each. Oh, that's great. Custom made. My boy Dennis from... Dennis! My boy Dennis from Milan. I brought him in. He's from Milan. So that he looked the part a little bit more.
15:43Before you eat at the corner table. Dennis from Milan. Before you eat at the corner table, you looked the part a little bit. How you doing? So he's going to, one at a time, he's going to measure you up for a nice new suit. Beautiful. Thank you so much. You brought some nice fabrics, right? Yes. He's going to measure them up. It's nice. It's a nice thing. Get measured up. Come on, Denny. Joe Taney don't play. He went to get measured, huh? You know, Milan, I love Milan. Milan's a great... What's your favorite city in Italy? Probably Rome. I love Rome. Yeah. Rome is beautiful. Eternal city. I love Florencia.
16:24Florence is great, yeah. Firenze. Firenze. You know, I'm a big olive guy, man. When I eat the olives in Florence, it feels like God is giving you the olives. Tuscany is home of the greatest olive in the world. So that is like... That's why, yeah. Florence is the capital. Tuscanee, Tuscanee's the home of the olive. That's why you feel that way. The home of the olive. Like, when I eat olives out there, I feel like, wow. Like, it's just a different, it's a different. I like Castellavano olives. Castellavano. Castellavano. Castellavano. Castellavano. Castellavano. I love those olives. Years ago, before this restaurant was here.
17:08so before this yeah so the the sign that's outside is the original sign from the restaurant that was here before us which was called Rocco's Rocco's was open in the 20s and this neighborhood was a Genovese neighborhood this block was Genovese so Vincent de Chin this was his block and he would spend a good amount of time here where that wall is there used to be a secret door so this this sliver of the room was a private room and they could come from upstairs from the apartment buildings down and get in without going to the street and being seen. But this was an all Genovese family and this was Rocco's from the 20s.
17:46You know, I've been in here before it was called Bone. No. Giuseppe been in here before it was called Bone. That's why I asked you the question to see if you got it right. Hey, I've been in here before it was called Bone. Trust me, that's why I knew the answer to that question right here. What's your favorite Italian restaurant that's not Carbone? Well. Where do you go? To be honest with you, I love Il Molino. Yep. Right down the map. Miami, Il Gabiano. Gabiano. Same family. Il Gabiano is really great. I don't like what they're doing with the new age Italian restaurants where they're bringing fire in the stuff and a bunch of sauces in the stuff.
18:29Like, I like it simple, man. I like it like this where we come and we get the real taste. Spicy burger. Nah, I'm okay with that one. But, you know, it's like, you know, I go to a spot in Jersey. You've probably been there. Grissini's. Yeah. Simple Italian food. It doesn't have to be fancy or nothing like that. He's been over there getting tailed up. He's getting tailed up. Yo. Dennis has got the best fabrics. Oh, man. I'm going to have him tailing me up, too. You know what I'm saying? There's a little double-breasted. I need him. Six by one. Oh, wise guy style. They used to wear the silk suits.
19:13They called them shark skin. The drug would look good now. How about, so the world famous Ray-Os, right? Yep. You've been there a million times. You know Joey Cupcake? I know Nikki Vest. Man. Nikki Vest was a bartender. Nikki Vest was a legend over there. So I went to Joey Cupcake's trial in the Bronx, and they had all those jackets on in that courthouse. It was a good shot, Kevin.
19:46Don Cartagena. Was Louie's actually in the Bronx? Louie's from... It was a Louie on Tremont all the way uptown. In Throg's neck. Remember Joe Nenas? Joe Nenas. You ate at Joe Nenas before? My dad told me many stories about that place. I've been in Joveninas. That's not around no more, right? No. I think he resting in peace. That's it. But he was a good guy. And traditional is Dominic's son. Arthur. Arthur. Where they serve you, whatever. You know, I used to have a guy on 116th Street. All the Italians watching. I want you to tell me who it was. It was a little spot. there was almost like a diner.
20:31And there was an old Italian guy there. And we sit in the table, smoke cigarettes all day. And you go in there, it was like almost empty. He wasn't making a lot of money. But you go over there, it's like around the corner from Rios. You go in there, he just stare at you. And then he go in the kitchen, he come out, and he throw whatever he wanted to throw on the table. And it was always good. And this man right here, he had it. The minute he died, his family sold that whole building in one second. The only thing near Rails I know is Patsy's. I know Patsy's is my favorite pizza joint in the whole planet Earth.
21:09But there was a spot around the corner, nothing to brag about. The original Patsy's. It's my guy. But there was a spot on 116th where this old man would just stare at you. He had an apron and you sit there and you're the only customer. he go in the kitchen come back and play and give you some food that's out of this world I'm telling you the second that guy died they sold that building this family he was the only one keeping it together yeah he loved it you could tell he didn't have to do it because he wasn't making no money there that's the thing about a lot of these old school places is that they're not getting passed down the next generation doesn't want to do it and it's understandable it's hard work and like you know the next what normally happens they don't want them anymore so these old places after 100 years or whatever, they're closing down.
21:55That's why it was important for us when this one closed down that was 100 years old, that we took it and kind of put it back and tried to keep it going, keep this neighborhood going. This was a big Italian neighborhood. Even though it's not Little Italy, because of the church on the corner, the neighborhoods would be marked by the churches, and then it would be built around it. So you have St. Anthony on the corner here. You have Our Lady of Pompeii over there. So these churches would, because they were the Roman Catholic churches, the Irish and Italians would migrate around them. So that's why you have these big pockets.
22:25So when you opened this original Carbone, you knew the history that was here before that. And you had to have that spot. Well, I worked across the street when I was like 19 years old. So you've seen that. So I knew this spot. So as soon as it became available and we heard about it, I was like, no, we got to get that. That's got to be it. That's Carbone. When you was young, did you visualize having this spot or owning this original? No, I didn't see it when I was young. I was a really bad student. I knew that the proper university path wasn't for me. A lot of bad students became the most awful people in the world.
23:10It's the truth, though. As soon as you start eliminating things, it opens up opportunities for what might be for you. You know, it's like, okay, maybe that's not for me, but that door closes what opens, right? And like, I always had this passion for food. I didn't know that I would like start a big company, but it wasn't even about that back then. It was about like, okay, do something I really want to do, something I care about, right? Like my grandparents and my family, it was always a big thing. So I was like, you know, I always, I worked at the school and on weekends, in Queens, I grew up in Queens.
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23:40So after school and on weekends, I would work in little restaurants, make a little bit of money. I was like, I like this. This is something. Where at Queens? On Springfield Boulevard. Springfield Boulevard. Shout out to a coach from Cardoza. He just won the record for the most wins ever. Right behind Cardoza's, but I grew up. You grew up around there where Ronnie Kiff is from. Exactly. Did y 'all grow up together? No, we didn't know each other. We went to different schools. He went to Cardoza. I grew up right next to it, but I went to Holy Cross High School. My wife's from Queens, man. The only famous Holy Cross graduate is Steve Stout.
24:12Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Rich Player graduated from Holy Cross. My manager, Rich Player. Is that true? But, yes, a fact. He played football for me. But what I was going to tell you is I used to go to this spot. What was the spot on Northern Boulevard across the street from the courthouse? It was Italian. That's where I learned pesto sauce for the first time. In Queens? In Queens. I used to go to Italian restaurant back in the days all the time. We had a lot of them, but like, to the conversation. But that was the first place I ever ate pesto sauce. And I would eat pesto sauce for like three years straight.
24:50I thought like I invented some shit. Like nobody knew pesto sauce. The two most famous places in Queens when I was growing up, and still maybe today, was Don Pep's. Don Pep's and Parkside. Parkside was a Gotti hangout in Corona, right by Shea Stadium. Parkside. What about the fat guy that used to own it? I think he passed away over there. Well, his name, Tough Tony, owned it. Tough Tony owned it. Yeah. That's the spot you talking about? That's Parkside, yeah. Man, they make a mean-fire Diablo strip. Great restaurant. It's a great restaurant. And across the street is the lemon. So he wasn't Fat Tony.
25:22He was Tough Tony. No, he was Tough Tony. So I'm being disrespectful calling him Fat Tony. God rest his soul. All right. Be flashy. You mess any name up. I'm going to say they give me some media. You can't mess up Tough Tony. You can't call him Fat Tony. Q Gardens? Queens Boulevard. Queens Boulevard. We had an Italian restaurant. They had nothing to brag about. almost dine it style, but that's where I learned how to eat pesto sauce. You know, Nori got famous. Well, you know, I learned how to eat pesto sauce. Guy needs a peanut butter and jelly. He needs help. Yeah, but I thought, like, you know, I really thought it was, like, big time.
26:01You know, in the Bronx, we had a restaurant. You took pesto back to the Bronx? You were, like, you were, like, Columbus. It was Columbus. He discovered it in Queens. No, I thought I blew up. Going to the Queens and took it back to the BX.
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31:34Nori got a famous story. He says one day he was, you know, he grew up in Lefrak. So one day he tried to go up in an Italian restaurant out there that he used to go all the time and they told him he can't come in. And when he looked in, it was a bunch of guys in there. And then he was like, yo, but I come here all, you know, Nori, you could imagine a young Nori before rap and all that. He was thugging his way in and they was like, boom, it was John Gotti was in there. And John Gotti was like, yo, just give him what he wants. They gave it to him outside. He paid for it at Nori Bokai. He said, yo, I seen the man there.
32:07Like the man, not the myth in there. Where the, where the original, my first restaurant is on Mulberry across the street was his club, the Ravenite. Is the same of that? No, when we, he was long gone after when we started there. But that was the story. That's it. You still drive through there and you know you're on that block. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if they put a Jamba Juice, a this, a that, a that, you know how you go through Yonkers and you know that gas station is where the locks used to be? When you go through that block, you know that's John Gotti's block. And they might put Jamba Juice and yogurt spot, whatever the case may be.
32:45I think it's a shoe store. It's a shoe store? Yeah, the Ravenites shoe store. Still feel the mystique. Yeah, because all the movies we ever seen, every documentary, everything was that block. You can't change the block. Can't change the block. Can't change history. Yes. That's what we're trying to do. Can I get a plate, swap this out real quick? I want to try this tuna thing over here. Ricky. Ricky's the man, bro. Ricky's from Y-S. Ricky's from Y-O. Ricky the Face? Yeah. That's what they call him? That's what I call him. Ricky the Face. Yo, Mario, let me tell you something. Speaking of starting in Queens, you have built an enterprise, to say the least.
33:29If I go to Texas, I call you, yo, could you get me in? If I go to Vegas, I say, can you get me in? If I'm in Miami, can you get me in? If I'm in New York, can you get me in? Did you ever envision becoming this big? Did he get you in? Huh? Never got me. Never got you in. I never called him. The kids can do whatever he wants. I never asked him, no. All these get in. If he asked me, I would've got him in. I had him. Nori, shout out to Nori. You got me in my hand. No, I got Nori. No, I got Nori. Nori got you in. Nori got me. Shout out to Nori. That's all good. Shout out to Nori. Yeah, yeah, Nori. Yeah, I think I got Nori in.
34:04That's how this works. We're passing it through. We're passing it down. No, we're passing it through. I remember Mario called me one time and said, man, this guy, like, Nori, he'll wear something. Like, when he got a hole of Carbone, he was in there every, like, say, Rayo's. Yeah. Right? You know the story behind that, right? It's the hardest restaurant in the planet Earth to get into. It is what it is, right? I can get in. You got into Rayo's? Yeah, I got it. You got the plug. I got it. I do, too. Right? But. But I use my favorite wisely. I mean, yo, once a year, twice a week. You know, I don't abuse.
34:50Beck, I should go every Wednesday and abuse the juice, whatever the sauce is, this, this, that. Nori's the same way. One day, I don't know if you remember, you called me up and you was like, yo, this guy's in here every night, yo. He spends money. Yo, Nori ain't cheap. He's blowing the bag. He's blowing a hundred wines. He's spending the money, but he was like, yo, he just, no other customer could take the back three tables. Nori got the three, the back three tables. I told Nori, Nori was like, yo, what made you come up with the ZZ's concept? So the private club. I'm in the ZZ's. You see, there you go.
35:24Kind of a big deal around here. That's what I said. In these parts. You don't need me to get in. I'm thinking you got it. I've been in ZZ's. You been in ZZ's? Yeah. In Miami? New York. In New York? Yeah, New York ZZ's. I love you. After Nick game. Kyle Lowry. After Nick game. Walk right over. Tyrese Maxx. See Coach Tim. See some nice... ZZ started in Miami because we wanted to do this sort of idea, this members club there. We had all of our top people, VIPs. We wanted to take great care of them. We wanted to open something special for them. And it started there. We had this amazing space in the design district in Miami.
36:04We built a beautiful sports bar, or a cocktail bar, a restaurant. I didn't even know it was at ZZ's in Miami. It was one in Miami. I know it started in Miami. It's crazy. And the food is incredible. Phenomenal. And then we did it here in New York. We also had a great space in Hudson Yards and it was walking distance to the garden. It's a beautiful film. We were there after we won that... Well, I'm there all the time. But I was there after the Knicks won and they had a celebration in ZZ's. so everybody Leon Rose the whole the whole New York was in there we had a every jeweler in town whoever that's it do you think do you think we over celebrated last year yup we waited 20 years you think so I just it felt we won one game we didn't like we I was happy for everybody as a Knick fan in New York I'm happy for I just felt like it felt like we were celebrating a little bit too hard for the for what we were, where we were at.
37:06We ain't winning since 1973. We've been out here like crackheads. We still haven't. We know how many times I went home sick. We lost 20-point leads. We still ain't winning. But last year was the first time. You were good with the level of celebration in relation to the victory. They almost threw a damn parade. I loved that. Not every night. Every night was a parade. I wasn't. I loved it. I loved it and don't let us win because we burning this bitch down like this shit about to go crazy out here I loved it I loved it Dolan was going out there giving the fans a game ball and then I think they like the lesson from that that's why they didn't put up the banner from the cup I'm glad they didn't put the banner up you didn't I don't want that banner you want the real chick yeah there's some there's some questionable banners up there anyway.
38:04For real? You last time I looked up there. I never look up there. You got some... You know, I pray every time I sit down. I got a couple things up there. I just up there. Every time I sit courtside. Some things is just decorations up there. I can't lie to you. Every time I sit courtside, I look up a deck because I used to go up a deck and I pray, a big prayer. I just, like, thank you, God, for letting me sit here this and that. I used to be up there. You should go up there for old time's sake one time. Shit. They used to put me in the Kobler Clutch up there. You know what I'm saying? Macho Man Randy Savage and all that.
38:36He can go back up there. That's where the violent wrestling fans are. There's not enough nostalgia in the world for him going back up there. That's where they clothesline you and say, hey, buddy. They lift you up on the floor after they clothesline you. That was new child. Leave it in. He's praying to the gods of the hardwood to sit on the floor. Man, it's a beautiful thing. You know, like coming from where you come from, you know, cooking in the kitchen. And now you own this big establishment. You got, I've been in supermarkets and saw the sauce in the supermarket. Sauce is everywhere. I mean, this is huge.
39:10How does your family, not meaning your immediate wife, but, you know, your uncles, your aunts, you know? It's amazing because they're so proud. And, you know, no matter where they are, they see it in the stores or, you know, go to the restaurant. I mean, the family's here all the time. My parents are here all the time. Italians is big on family. Yeah. How important is family to you? Super important. That's why food is so important, because that's where you get together. You know, it's like the fireplace. It's like this is where everyone gathers around, and that's why it's so important. You know, we put, not just us, I mean, plenty of, you know, you must have grown up with amazing, you know, big meals with the whole family around.
39:50You know, I'm the fakest Italian you know. Every Sunday, I'm eating Italian. You Italian to me? I'm like, go get your olives. There's people who think... You're going to get your castle for Toronto, Alas? Yo, I'm not going to lie. You want a cat moment on here? Like, probably the only Spanish guy that, uh... Do everything. Spanish, Italian, black. Man, I performed one time. When you call me, yo. When you call me, the phone rings. Giuseppe Grosso. Giuseppe, yo, listen. I performed in Staten Island one year for a bunch of old Italian men. They still had the mask on with the air. With the pumps, yeah.
40:28You know who could confirm this story? Bo Dido. Bo Dido was there that night, too. Sounds like he's the one that arranges. They on top of the chairs. Sweet Caroline. There ain't no other Puerto Rican that been in that environment like me. You perform Sweet Caroline in Sadden Island? I'm just saying, you know, they go, where you go, Boca Raton, you know, all that. Right? But what I'm trying to tell you is, trust me. I've been indoors. Spanish people don't get in in the Italian community. You know. I feel like both you guys have been adopted by the Italian community. Yeah, we have him. He's the right guy.
41:09He got facts. He got something going on out there where it's Jadakus Italian to the point my daughter's asking me is he really Italian? I said, get the fuck out of here. His grandfather's from Memphis. Get out of here. Why are you wasting my time with this? She's like dead ass. Like, yo, dad, they saying he's Italian. I said, are you Italian, Jaden? Yeah, he's got to ask something Italian. Yeah. You got to get the 23 in me. Holy shit, man. Yo, where your parents from? His grandmother's a bipartisan. Ah, it's Jaden. Let me see. Is Jaden just Italian? Me? This is crazy. Get the merch. Get the merch, huh?
41:52Yeah, Jaden. You're a world or you're a machine. Boy, this guy making money from all over. We got a restaurant collab working on. Me and Jada. Let me ask you a question. What does the future look like? What do you think of it? Which is beautiful, man. Yeah, but what are you thinking? How are we? Vegas. You all right? You saying all that? Yeah, we're going to continue to grow. I think it's important. We do fun projects. We continue to not just take things for the money. As soon as you start making decisions for the money, it's the beginning of the end. That was the jewel of the day, right? That's the beginning of the end.
42:29You got to keep making decisions as if it was your first spot. Why did you get into it? Treat your first like your last. Stay on it. Don't get distracted by what's going on out there. But what people are offering you, is it something that's exciting? Will the team be excited to do it? Will your people be excited to do it? If the answer is yes, then maybe it's right. Hold on. I think I want to switch, Danny. He got the... This is what I looked at. Yeah, I mean... This, that shit... You want to put it on? This fabric. I think... Look, you said this one. My son said... Nah, go back. You got my measurements?
43:04I think this fabric... You want to try it on? This shit is fine. So I think what... I think we're going to go beyond restaurants. I think we're going to open hotels. I think we're going to open, you know, residential buildings and communities. And, you know, we're going to do the sauce in the stores. I think we're going to keep pushing beyond what just the restaurants are. That's... The lifestyle. Yeah, the lifestyle. That's what we're doing here today. The lifestyle. It's fine. And I think the future's really bright for us. You know, we're still a young company, but we've got some years on our belt.
43:36We've got some great people that can do a lot of work. Yo, Ricky, what's up? Ricky the face, man. You guys enjoying everything? Ricky the face. Yo, Ricky, let me see that tune over here. Absolutely. Ricky's got a beautiful voice. if you ever need anybody to come. Listen, let me tell you something. You need a guy. If you ever need a guy. Let me tell you something. I need a tune for this. The first two times I came to this spot, Carbone, you ain't charged me. They were so mad at me. Steve Stout, Fat Guys, all of them, they had the biggest thing. Yo, Fat Joe's the only guy I ever seen, not charging Carbone.
44:10This, this, that. He was blasting hip-hop on here. Yo, Fat Joe's in here. They was blast. It was a movie. Everybody who was a regular already, they was dumb type. They was like, yo, how'd you got that off? You out there in Dubai, right? Yeah. Dubai. Tell me about it. Last year, we opened, at the end of the year, we opened London, Dubai, and we opened another Las Vegas. That's how we closed the year last year. You got two Las Vegas. We got two Carbons in Las Vegas. We got a Sadell's in Las Vegas. Vegas is good to us. Sadell's is yours as well. Yeah, yeah. Sadell's is good to us. My resources. I'm on the rock.
44:48You're not using your resources. I'm not using my resources. Crazy. I've been telling you that. I'm trying to get you to open the book up. I gotta use the book. You gotta use the book. Oh, here's our fish. Gentlemen, if I may. We're like, the flay this beautiful Dover sol. Go ahead. How many Dover sols you flay? Today's the first one, but I think other than that, maybe 2 ,000, 3 ,000. Maybe it was 13 years. I don't know. Oh, did they got a Bronzino going for Joe? Yes, sure. Okay, great. Absolutely. He requested a Bronzino. See, we do a little search. Ricky's day one. Day one. 13, over 13 years?
45:23I don't know. Day one. I never lost. You know. But I always enjoy doing it because it's a beautiful fish. Yeah, Dover's soul. You guys made it cool. Right? It's not normally an Italian dish. It's like an old Jewish lady's fish, right? It is popular amongst that community, yes. Yeah, when you go into the diners, it's like an old Jewish lady is like, the Dover's soul.
45:53When they try to shoot that at me, I'm like, yo, I need that bronzino, you know? They shot the Katz Deli. ZZ's did a pop-up with Katz Deli. Yeah, Miami. Brought it to Miami. Hundreds of people out there. I think Katz is the best restaurant in New York. Katz Deli. Can't beat it. Can't beat it. How many years they been over? Shit. 1887. 1887? I was there when the owner was fat. Got skinny now. I'll see if this guy works. Wow. That's you. That was like E-Cliff. The face. I practiced all night. That was like E-Cliff. Let's hit it with the love now. Let's see what's the sauce. Oh, yeah. Look at this.
46:44Bacata style. The only way to do it. Nice. Got capers in there, tomato, a little bit of butter, the best. Yeah. A little bit of citrus to bring it up. It's mean and vicious. It's beautiful. This is in real life. He did the heat cliff. He did heat cliff in real life. Make it nice. The whole thing, like, he's got to slip the soul while he waits for the bronzino. Yes, chef. Mario, do you need a couple of your favorite hip-hop songs? I won't corner you into your favorite artists, but hip-hop songs. The Evils? Fire. The Evils. Yeah, Mario. No, no, no. Mario know what he's doing. You know. I mean, I remember where I was, like, kind of where I...
47:32I remember a moment where I feel like I kind of... I discovered it for the first time. I was like maybe 15 years old, 14, 15 years old. I'm in the back of my best friend's older brother's Lincoln LSC. A boat of a two-door car. That's that big boy. A boat. That's how I learned how to drive into Lincoln. Baby blue Lincoln LSC. I'm in the back seat and I hear Big get on the radio for the first time. And it just takes you. The voice took you. What is that? What is that? It's a moment of discovery. You're just like, this is something different. Franzino. And then I do, for me, I do believe that kind of Frank gave way to Jay to me, like the chairman of the chairman.
48:19That was a thing. And I remember the first time Steve brings Jay in and you're just like, oh my God, I have this little tiny restaurant and the guy is here. Like the guy, the chairman. I definitely grew up with hip hop. I mean, that was, I remember every album of the summer just coming out of every car window. You just don't feel it kind of like that anymore. It usually doesn't move the same way. I mean, it moves, but it moves differently. You know, like when you would hear the song and the album of the summer from, you know, in May or June coming out of the cars. To me, it was always LL. Like, LL was one of my favorite.
48:49Whenever they would be on the radio, they'd be like, brand new LL. I don't care what highway it was on. I'd just pull right over, open the windows, blast the music, and then it'd be, you know, this is hard to say. everybody in the wrong way. And I'd be like, yo. I never, as an LL fan, I never heard a Wax song to me. Like, I always felt like, even when they was like, yo, walking with the panther, whatever wasn't it. Still was it to you. Something like a phenomenon. Whatever nobody liked, I loved. Like, I got it. Like, I was like, it's that type of thing. Too many that nobody didn't like. No, I know.
49:32I used to love the Loverboy stuff, like lounging, like when he would go real Loverboy. Yeah, when he'd go for the ladies. See, one thing is, the way he has a lot of the ball. He has smokers. He has smokers, and then he would come with an All Right album, and then smoke. Once they doubt him, he'll come back with this five platinum shit. Like, he needed that to just motivate him. Yeah, one more thing. Get your Bronzino right here. Get your Bronzino for you, sir. I need that. Give him a little, yeah. Then you get a little Veil Parmesan. Veil Parmesan. the world famous. Thank you. Yes, chef. The world famous You got a zero win on my man, Ricky, the face is swag about.
50:12You see how he's doing this? This is not normal. Don't try this at home. Don't try it at home. It's very dangerous. Absolutely. Would you like some? Ricky, how long you been in the business? I've been here. I've been in the business maybe almost 20 years, but I've been here 13 years. Very proud of it. We've only been here 13 years. Man, it seemed like he had a short stint here. 13 years best. You ever serve some guys where you got a little nervous, a little rigatoni might have fell or something? We try not to get nervous at the restaurant. You know how these guys. Ricky and I made a lasagna for Mr.
50:51Scorsese that night that we'll never forget. Wow. Kind of on the fly. He wanted a lasagna. He wanted a lasagna. What are you going to tell him, Mr. Scorsese? Mr. Scorsese came in. He wanted to what? He was chef to slice of the table. So we came over. We did a whole thing. It was very nice. Very nice. It was a very proud moment.
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54:42in the Bronx called the Golden Elephant. The Pesci used to go to a... What do you want me to do? We're going there. What's the name of these places? The Golden Elephant. Who the hell did they serve there? Yeah, what did they serve as the Golden Elephant? What was the signature dish? Listen, bro, that's where them guys used to go at that time. Who was it? The Golden Elephant. Near Pelham Park. Yeah. Salah Botello, his father, used to own the joint. So what happened with Mr. Pesci? So Mr. Pesci came in. And he sat down here and he said, he was by himself. And I said, you know, I understand you have a few of your friends coming to join you.
55:19Is there anything I could bring you while you're waiting for your guests? He said, you know what? How's your bartender here? I said, I think he's pretty good. So I said, why? What's up? What do you need? He goes, I want a martini. But you had to tell him to shake it. Shake it as hard as he could. Just when he thinks he shook it enough, bring it back and shake it again. So they're just like that. Sure enough, we brought it over. He took a sip. Ricky, do me a favor. Have the bartender shake this again for me. Two olives, please. Never three. Two olives? Yeah, three's for Zambuca. Two is for Martinez.
55:50That's what he told me. So then, you know, we took it back to him. Shake it for two hours? And he brought it down. Shake it for two olives? No, sorry. Two olives. Two olives. Oh, two olives. Two olives. Yeah, two olives. What do you think? Two hours he got. That was a big olive guy. So he shook it, right? Took it back. And then he drank it nice and easy. He goes, that was perfect. Thank you so much. Then he made me take my jacket off because, you know, He said, you guys look a little too fancy. So we did a little, yeah, so we did it out like this and then we started dancing in the dining room.
56:16It was a beautiful thing. Joe's the man, Joe's the man. I remember a night we had just opened and I was in the kitchen right here, busy night, and they come into the kitchen, one of the managers from the kitchen, they said, Chef, Mr. Pellegrino's at the bar. Frank Pellegrino's from Rale's. He said, okay, you tell me the second he sits down because I want to make sure he has a perfect experience. okay, no problem. A few minutes later, Frank walks from the bar over there into the kitchen. He's not sitting down. He walks right into the kitchen. He walks right up to me. He says, you Carbone? I said, yes, sir.
56:53I said, how are you, Mr. Billy Bieland? Thank you for coming. He goes, the place looks good, kid. And walked up. I remember that. He didn't have anything. He walked in. He looked around. He walked into the kitchen. He made sure he met me. He said, the place looks good. and he walked out. Yeah, I remember he was at the bar and he was digging Never to be seen again. He was dancing. How was it? I remember. Never came back. I had a friend. That was dead. I had a friend. He's not my friend no more but his former father-in-law was this rich guy who used to sell marble but I mean like to all the buildings he was super rich.
57:32He couldn't get in rails and the guy who was my friend used to tell him all the time yo, let my guy Fat Joe the Rapper gets you in rails. He went with the owner of the Nets. They didn't let him in. If you don't come, they turned down Madonna, right? They don't care. He went with some other rich guys. They turned him down. He finally eventually got in, and when he sat down in the restaurant, he said, let me ask him. He said, man, he said, you ever hear this guy, Fat Joe? He said, Fat Joe, the minute he comes in, we bring a table, we make the table in the middle of the thing for him. Fat Joe gets the table wherever he wants some rails, this and that.
58:11Homeboy called up his son-in-law like, yo, I didn't know your man had the power like that in him. That's that Henry Hill table. Yeah, they bring the table.
58:24I'll tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I went one time. It's a true story. But you want me to say the name, I can't say the name. Say it. No, I can't say the name. I mean, you can't leave when he's a friend of a friend no more. No, no, no. I can't say the... One thing I love doing, although I don't do that with you, I don't play with you, but I love arriving with no reservations anywhere I go. Fat Joe, I want to see if we can do it. Right? You just want to test them? I just love not being reservations. I don't know why. I just, that's my thing. So. What is the percentage of that working?
58:59All the time. But let me explain something. All the time. It's 100%. I'm in a 100 % ratio. Don't do that because I'll be asking you, yo, where are you coming through? But I'm a hundred percenter. Like, what time? He's like, I'm outside. One day I walk in the joint and LeBron James, it's in Miami where he played for Miami. It's Valentine's Day. LeBron James is there with his wife in the hallway, like, waiting. Right? Not a good time. It's ram-packed. I'm with my wife. She was like, no, it's another spot in Miami. Gabiano. Gabiano. Gabiano. Right? It's my spot. Shout out Gabiano. So it's beyond sold out.
59:42So I walk up there. Obviously this girl has no clue who Fat Joe is. I go up in there. I go, yeah. She said, you got a reservation. I said, nah, I ain't got a reservation. So she says, so she says, oh, it's a four hour wait. For us. I said four hours. I'm looking at her. I said four hours. She looks to the side at LeBron James, the the king of Miami, when he was winning chips, he said, everybody's waiting. So I sit back, I go like this. Because there's certain names, you might think I talk a lot, but there's certain names I don't drop no matter what. Life, death, nothing, I won't. So when I look, I'm embarrassed.
1:00:24My wife says, I told you. You said, well, you know, such and such sent me. Boom! They crack open the champagne. Why didn't you tell us? Come here. They walked me inside the restaurant. They poured champagne right here. And LeBron's still waiting? He's still waiting. But the name I dropped was so legendary. It was a name of names. I said, well, you know, Mr. Such-a-sense-a. Boom! The champagne. They popped the shit open. What are you waiting for? Please come inside. Like, they doing the shit. I see yo, I had to drop the name. That's like you, two-time-a-fellin. You go to the spot, they front of you, you be like, yo, Fat Joe sent me.
1:01:10They might pop the champagne for you. You know what I'm saying? But... Two-time-a-fellin. I've done a two-time-a-fellin. But yo, Mario, great time with you. Carbone Miami, May 1st to the 3rd. Carbone Beach. Carbone Beach. Oh, that's the joint you always throw out there. Yeah, yeah. What's that, F1 Week? F1 Week. F1 Weekend. We gotta go out there. We got to get you out there. You got to get out there, right? You got to do it. Should we do a show from the road? The new Yala is all, man. Should we do a show from the road? Let's do one for that. Yo and Jada, that's a different type of chemistry. You know why I'm fasting, Eddie?
1:01:46That's all I'm doing, Jada. You got to do one when I'm not fasting. You fasting me first in the... I'm fasting. No, right now. Nah. I think I wouldn't have been a blitter range. No, you showing off right now. You fasting with all you got that type of... Play your soul. Willpower. with reggaeton in front of you and everything. I'm impressed. I'm not fasting. Hard to see. Pull up that Bronzino. I see you at the this game, too. Oh, you got a stout. I heard about it, too. Oh, you too? I ran into stout in the hallway. I heard about it. He's like, I mentioned this to Joe. Let me tell you, Steve Stout.
1:02:29Steven Stout. Shout out to Stout. you never brought me a dollar in your life you're the richest guy I go one time to Saudi Arabia with Steve the minute we land he got 62 meetings in the lobby of the hotel Steve Scott just gets money wherever he goes he got all these Saudis coming in there I could never get a dollar with him but one thing I can count on is the second I grabbed the glizzy he had the camera in my face like this Yo, you eating the glizzy? I see your Steve style. Maybe you want to bring me a Saudi dollar or something, man. Maybe you want to get me a fragrance or something, man. Try to get some money.
1:03:10He caught me on camera with the glizzy. Steve, Joe's open to a fragrance deal. No, I'm just saying. I stand on brand. Everybody knows I love a glizzy. I went to the game. I got me a glizzy. What's the problem with that? I don't have a problem with it. Seems in line. You don't got a problem with that. That's what he needed. He needed Glizzy in the door. I need a Glizzy or Oscar Mayer. Oh, we got a flag on the blade. Too much Glizzy dialogue. Can't talk Glizzy. Nah, nah, nah. Don't even know. He brought it up. I didn't bring it up. You said I was in. I heard about it, but I didn't bring it up. I wasn't going to say nothing.
1:03:51You brought it up. He was about to say Steve Stousen. Yo, bring me one of them jaws before we get out of here. Let me one of them carbon jars so they can know what to get in the supermarket. Gifts to everybody. We love it. We're in 30 ,000 stores. 30 ,000 stores for the whole family. Look at this. My family uses this. This is amazing. You can try. You can try. This is amazing stuff. Shout out to the loveys. This is it. My family, the loveys. If you can't get an appointment, At least you can buy some of this at Supermarket. Yes, you can. Carbone at home. You know what I mean? You can do it at home.
1:04:36Carbone at home. Even you, Joe. Yo, Mario, do I get a discount for buying a property in your building or something? Whatever you're going to pay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I want a discount. I got a friends and family rate for you. No, I need it. It's beautiful. It's going to be beautiful. It's going to be beautiful. I know it's going to be amazing. I got you. I got you on a date. We got any hints? What area is it? Should be in Miami? You're going to do it in Miami? No, it's being built right now. It's in Edgewater. It's on the water. It's gorgeous. Being built right now. 20 floors are already built. Beautiful, beautiful.
1:05:07Forge's condos, Edgewater. I got a friends and family number for you. Name some favorite restaurants. Just name two or three that's, I got one in mind. That's what I thought of. That's not Italian. That you love going to. Anywhere. Anywhere? I mean, Katz's for sure. Katz's, Peter Lugger's. I mean, the old New York. Peter Lugger's. I went there two days ago in Long Island. Oh, the one on Great Neck? Yeah, them guys to carry. What's it, they're conned? Man, they had that steak this month. No reservations. No reservations. Walked in. 100 % success, man. I just woke up with that beauty face. 100 % success.
1:05:43I was out there in Long Island. Tell them Fat Joe sent you. Fat Joe came up in there. Costa, what's up, brother? Yo, what's going on? That steak. We're losing that, man. We're losing the traditional, man. Thank God for Carbone. This is fly. It's sexy on another level, but we got that real food. You know, these new places, you know, it's just horrible. You know, it's almost like hip hop. It's any art. But yeah, hip hop, you can use a hip hop as an analogy. Any art though. You have, you know, you got to keep the certain amount of tradition going. It's always important that somebody pops off and does something different and new and there's a new style that comes, but it's generally always, It's always rooted in the classic.
1:06:28You know, like, it's not going to come overnight. Nothing's going to come overnight. No success is going to come overnight. It should, you know, what it should happen is you should learn and be based in the classic, be a master of the classic. How hard is you? Because the other night I went to dinner with a friend of mine, he owns Italian restaurants. We went to Carbone in Miami two, three days ago. how hard is it as a restaurant owner to not criticize other restaurants and their food and stuff like that i got a best friend he's just chef chef mark he criticized i don't give a damn if we went to white castle like yo they don't make the bread like they used to this this how hard is it for you to sit down at a restaurant it's harder for me to sit i'm a i'm the biggest critic when i'm sitting in one of my places if i'm if i'm in one of my places which i think is a very important thing to do, right?
1:07:18I think it's more important for me to be a customer these days than to be back there with them. I think get your perspective, the perspective of the customer. And when I'm eating at one of my restaurants, I'm a very difficult critic. If I'm at somebody else's place, I just turn it off. Oh, you turn it off? That's good. It's easy for me to just be like... I don't like that. One of my friends here is chef. I'm not. It's too hard to be a critic for all of my places. I just want to relax. I just want to be in somebody else's spot. If it's great, that's great. I'm going to give you all your love and all the presents.
1:07:49That's great. If it's not great, I'm going to keep my mouth shut, keep moving. Like, all good. Yeah, because I hate that. I got friends that are all chefs and they own restaurants. They go somewhere, they criticize this, they criticize that. I'm just sitting there like, yo, bro. Like, just enjoy the moment. You know what I mean? That's important. Enjoy the people you're with, the table. It's also so much more than just the meal. You know, it's the people you're with. It's where you're at. You know, it's your level of comfort. Like everything equals the meal. Like it's all part of it. All the ingredients of it is not just the food.
1:08:26I have not been to a Carbone where the staff has not been great. Have not greeted you with respect and love. I have not been nowhere near any of your establishments where people ain't happy to see you. They treat you nice. If I walk in ZZ's over here, you got the Dominican girl up front. She's nice. Brings you up. The guys take care of you upstairs. In Miami, you can forget it. They bring you out of the car in. Yeah, they walk you. No, they walk you in. You get out the car, they walk you in. Like, yo, what's going on, guys? This, this, this. You got Ricky here. That's one thing. and the most important thing in the restaurant business, the most important thing in the restaurant business is feeling like the restaurant knows you.
1:09:21Whether you the richest, you could be Derek Jeter over there, you could be the little guy who said, yo, it's my birthday and they got a reservation, they come in here. Everybody got to feel special. That's what I always thought about when I thought about when we first opened this place and I thought about that front door, I was like, how do I give every person that comes in here the sensation of being Henry Hill walking in the back of Copacabana, right? So like the music's playing, he goes back door, no, I don't wait in line. Someone, how are you, Mr. Hill, blah, blah, blah. And like all the way to getting to the table, like how do I treat this place as that movie and give everyone as close to that experience as when the door opens, they get hit with the music, the smell of the food.
1:10:07Someone greets them. It's busy, but like, I got you. And I give everyone that little bit of, that cinematic moment. I don't know if you trained your staff how to treat people. This is a movie. You cannot get a warmer reception than coming here. And let me tell you something, because, you know, I've been on a real diet. You know, Fat Joe, not so fat anymore. No, I know. But them three color cookies you throw on that table at the end of the meal. Yo, Ricky. Ricky, get them. Them three color cookies. I'm ready. They'll take my diabetes sensor all the way up. All the way up. That Libre thing. My new endorsement.
1:10:42Yo, let me tell you something. Three colorful cookies are taking diabetes all the way up. You want to turn up your Libre 3? Them three color cookies, man. I can't resist that thing in the middle of resisting. I can't. We're going to get you some. All the way up. Thank you so much, Mario Carbone. This ain't that. That ain't this. is cracking kiss. We hear legendary. This is one of your first road games. Live from the back of Carbone. You know, we went to Khaled's house. I think that was our first road trip. Yeah, Khaled's trip. L.A. But nothing like, you know, Carbone is legendary. I know the history of every every bone and literally of this place.
1:11:30So, pause. Pause. History of every bowl is sick. Aw, man. That was ew. Aw. The cookie. And there's plenty more where that came from. What's the real name of this cookie? This has a lot of names. It's got a lot of names. What's the real name? Is it three color cookie or something? All right. I think the name. We call them rainbows. Seven Layers. Seven Layers. Seven Layers. Tri-colors. Tri-colors, yeah. They got a lot of names. But that's New York right there. That's here. This is every Italian bakery, pastry shop. I love it. They got to be served cold. Shout out to my man. Right out of the food.
1:12:08Marco from the Fornio Bakery. He does it for me sugar-free out in Queens. The story of Queens. Why are you making them sugar-free? He's making them sugar-free. I hope he's not lying to you. No, I don't. It can't taste like that if it don't got sugar. Sugar-free. Where's your place that you want to go? Shout out, Marco. You're a magician. Marco. You're a magician. Marco's a good guy. Oh, let's just say. Let's sugar at it. If we want to keep it above the bottom. Yes, I think that's the right appreciation of what's happening. This thing got the Libra 3 going to Libra 6. Yo. Joe and Jay, the baby, the biggest Netflix.
1:12:43Kaboom. Make some noise for our guest. Mario, we appreciate you. Mario California. The Don of all times. Mario California.
1:13:00Thank you.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss pull up to the world-famous Carbone in New York City for a lunch with the man himself, restaurateur Mario Carbone. From President Obama's secret visit to Jay-Z and Elon Musk fighting over the bill, Mario opens up about the legendary moments that have gone down inside these walls. Mario takes the guys through the rich history of the Greenwich Village spot, from its roots as Rocco's in the 1920s, to building one of the most coveted dining empires in the world, with plans to expand into hotels, residential properties, and supermarket shelves. Plus, longtime Carbone fixture Ricky "The Face" serves up a classic Joe Pesci story, a tailor measures Joe and Jada for new suits, and the question on everyone's mind is finally answered: is Jadakiss Italian?
Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX!
All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet
2:30 In the kitchen with Mario Carbone
12:00 Obama, Elon & Jay-Z stories
14:30 Meet Ricky "The Face"
17:00 History of the Carbone building
20:45 Mario's origin story
25:00 N.O.R.E.'s John Gotti story
31:00 Did Knicks fans over-celebrate?
42:00 Future of Carbone: Hotels, residences & beyond
47:30 Favorite hip hop songs & LL Cool J appreciation
50:30 Ricky's amazing Joe Pesci story
55:00 Fat Joe got a table before LeBron
59:30 Joe got caught with the glizzy again
1:06:00 Making every guest feel like Henry Hill
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