Fat Joe & Jadakiss on BET canceling Hip Hop & Soul Train Awards, will.i.am's Black Thought vs. Jay-Z, Jelly Roll SummerSlam story

29:34your normal person, your normal moms, your normal school teacher or somebody like that, they wouldn't really technically know that was the birthplace of hip hop. So that's justified. You know what I'm saying? But it's up to us to explain that. There's one of the biggest birthplace of hip hop, Kool Herc, threw them parties there and it became legendary. You know, hip hop started in three different areas. So it started there. It started in Bronx River. Then it started in my hood, too. So at three, at three. Yo, I'm not. Yo, Kiss, what do you want me to say to you? You want me to tell you? I mean, Shot Rock, the first female MC, is from my block.

30:21Little Rodney C. Ruby Dee, the first Latino MC, is from my block. Melly Mel is from my block. Lovebug Stossie is from my block. or Grandmaster Flash used to play 23 Park. Like, I'm from the Mecca, the soil. There's no... So, you know, whenever anybody tries to start some hip-hop shit, they just can't. I'm from there. I'm sorry for you. Is it Cedric or is it your block? No, no, no. It started in three different places. Cedric is where Kool Herc is from, and we acknowledge that as the birthplace of hip-hop, but it started three different... is Band Barter, is Flash, and it's Cool Hurt. Those are the three founding fathers of hip hop.

31:03And it started out in them three areas in the Bronx. I happen to be from one of the areas where the biggest guys ever did it, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. You know, one day I'm watching Melly Mel playing basketball across the street from my house, and the next day he's doing Chaka Khan, Chaka Khan at the Grammys beat. You know, I seen them when they all got the whole Furious Five got their first, they got their first white 190 Benzes and they pulled up to my block back to back on them shits like this. And I'm watching it as a little kid. Like, you know, I'm really from that. That's not even what you made me go there because you put the cat face.

31:43It's not cat. There's nothing I could do. I'm sorry. I was born there. The Mecca. But 1515 Sedgwick. That's Melly. Melly's saying Shaka Khan. Yeah, Shaka Khan. I want to get you sucker con. I want to get you sucker con. That's Melly Mel. Huh? 1520 Cedric Avenue? Okay, I'm five paces off. But the thing is, that's across the street from River Park Towers. That's one way in, one way out. They throw them fucking refrigerators at you off the roof again. River Park Towers? That shit, be lucky to go in and come out. that's not don't go see some girl at river park towns you ain't coming out that's a different type of thing but yo jay the man will i am says that black thought is a trillion times this is hip-hop we gotta discuss this jayda he's one trillion times better than jay-z that's how he feels.

32:47Where you want me to elaborate on how that man feels? So that's it. You just say that's how he feels. That's that. Yeah, I came from where you mind your business. You know what I'm saying? I was taught to mind my business. Me personally, I let the facts be the facts and I let the history determine itself. You had your shot to make hits, to be the biggest in the game. She was a model for a year and a half. I had my shot. We all had our shot at who's the best rapper, who's the biggest rap in the game. The roots played and are still playing an integral part of hip hop. Right. They also crossed up.

33:37They're like J.B. Smooth. You know, they hooked up with the Jewish white guy and they got, they got the lick. They in like they could do, bar mitzvahs and all the white joints. All I'm going to tell you is you're never going to hear a rapper say fucking Coldplay's a million times better than Black Eyed Peas. They put that out there, and that's the reason the hip-hop is hanging on a string, because they fucking making everybody go against each other for no reason. Just for small talk and clicks and get the most traffic to your thing. If that's how he feels, fuck it, that's how he feels. but there's no way on Google you can Google, chat, GBT, whatever, whoever the fuck you want.

34:23You're not going to find Hove or Black Dot. No way of saying the Backstreet Boys is a trillion times better than NSYNC. Leave our fucking culture alone. That's my opinion, too. Because you're starting off some shit and then he's going to go be in a state-of-the-art to heels somewhere, making cars. Just don't do that. What's called for them? If you feel like that, that's fine. But we need no more nuclear bombs set off in hip hop unless it's called for. A billion, this guy's a rich tech. He makes cars. He gonna go on an interview and just say, I mean, that's his thoughts cool, but we don't need them.

35:08Think about it. Find me somewhere where a prolific rapper went somewhere and said, this guy's better than Will.I.M. a trillion times. Well, if I say it, right, if you say it, you can't say it yourself anyway because even the time LL Cool J's invented GOAT was one of the GOATs. But when he said I'm better than everybody or he said some statement like I'm the greatest. If somebody says it about themselves is different than somebody, for one, that ain't. The type of music you do ain't even our type of music to just go up there and just put two people against it. He almost lined up Black Thought, huh?

35:51Like if you think about it. He lined up everything because what the fuck do I got to do with it? Even if that's his thoughts. Save it to your fucking self. I'm going to move on from there because he might have stopped the bombshell or nuclear, whatever the case may be. Yeah, thank you for... The more we put lighter fluid on it, the more it goes. Let that shit go down. They both great. There's a difference between fucking up and being fucked up. Definitely. You know, I sit with my sisters. I sat down the other day, had dinner with our sister Mary J. MJ. And all of them. And, you know, I don't think I bother them.

36:39I was just hungry. So I was like, yo, where y 'all at? They were like, yo, yeah, I'm pulling up. I got to eat some shit, right? But when I had these conversations with the women, you know, beautiful conversations, but she said there's a difference between fucking up and being fucked up. You can fuck up. That don't mean you fucked up. Which one you rather be? Man, listen. You rather fuck up or you rather be fucked up? It depends on what level of. I'd rather fuck up. You rather fuck up? to fix that and you learn from your lesson being fucked up is no good no bueno. We in the world of is it just me or we in a weird time in life right like I feel like everybody's doing bad financially we've seen the jobs report the other day was like 14 ,000 jobs in a month you know if Biden did less than a half a million a month they was like it's the end of earth motherfucker got 7 ,000 a month 14, 17 I mean, if the numbers are correct, people doing fucked up out here.

37:44I got my mom's dad a condo today. I saw that, man. That was beautiful, man. You know, that was the best thing I ever did for my mother and father. I bought them a house. And I remember when I went through the tax thing and I realized that my accountant wasn't paying mortgages. When I first heard it, I was more worried about my mother and father's house than I was even mine. I was like, yo, they could come take my mother's house, my father's house. So it must be a beautiful feeling, purchase something for mom and dad. It's beautiful, man. It's a blessing. You know what I mean? That we can't take for granted.

38:19It's something you, as a little kid, that's something you wish you could always do. You know, I love that. You know, Denzel Washington, I can't quote him, but he was saying, sometimes families don't understand, your own family don't understand when you're trying to win and overcome a generational curse. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? And your own family won't understand that you trying to get to the promised land. You know, financially, generationally. Because I think that's the game we plan. We trying to lay it down so whoever comes behind us got a better plan for you. They can afford college.

39:00They can afford whatever they want. They ain't got to live in the projects no more. Facts. and me growing up in the projects, such a big family, like I can't do something for everybody. I actually think I have done something for everybody in my family different times. But there's a cousin of mine that's probably a third cousin that lives in the projects in the Lower East Side that I barely even know. I might know they moms, that people are telling them, yo, you Fat Joe's cousin. You're supposed to be in the big house. they do it to our friends they'll do it to your friends your friends wives or girlfriends are telling them yo why you ain't got that them boys got it that's your man you know him stay away from them and that's the difference of how far does that go to survivor's guilt or to success rest in peace the hit man Howie T did you know I never met Howie T, but I always respected his contributions to hip hop.

40:09Howie T, though. I've always been jealous of people with their own theme song. So I'm telling you, Tommy Mottola just asked me to do his documentary. And they were asking me, yo, what about it? And I was like, yo, Tommy Mottola lives on the road. Like, imagine they made a hit record about you that they're playing all over the world. Like Howie T. When I tell you that shit was wavy, when he had the Howie T. Oh, whoa, whoa. Howie T. That shit was crazy. Some of the groups, James, Special Ed, Chubb Rock. He did Salt and Pepper. It's probably his biggest group. But Color Me Bad, That was like the white.

41:01Howie T. Herbie. That was Herbie's Salt-N-Pepa? Yeah. Howie T. did. Sweet tea. He did sweet tea, too. He did sweet tea, too, right? But Howie T., living legend. He should get all the flowers he deserves. Definitely. Rest in peace and prayers and condolences to his family. You know, I always get surprised when somebody passes away in hip-hop that I never met. Yeah, me too, because you met everybody. I met everybody. I feel weird when I ain't meet them. You know who else met everybody? Busta Rhymes. Yeah, shout out to Busta. He got a star on the Walk of Fame, man. He deserved that. I seen the picture with him and LL.

41:47That was fire. Beyond that. They won the last two. I mean, LL is the first. For our era that's left. and Buster. We did something. Then you coupled them right behind them. Am I coming with the Euro or I'm coming with the, yo, this motherfucker. You got a new, your shit ain't the Euro, no, because it's the first. It's the fluidity. I got to get a new name for your step. Yo, no, no, I like that one, but you know, Buster Moms, leaders in the new school, shout out to Long Island. They claim them too. I know he says he's from Brooklyn. He grew up in Brooklyn, went to school with Big E and Jay-Z. But Long Island claims him.

42:34And Keith Murray, I missed a big one. Keith Murray and the Long Island's kid. Keith Murray's not just an incredible rapper. He's one of my brothers. So I'm sorry if I messed up and I missed out with Keith Murray. People were saying MF Doom. A lot of people, you know, it just was amazing, their contribution. Let's talk about Jersey now. Jersey. We're going to get some unsung heroes. Salute the legends of Jersey. Y 'all got to stop. I think we got Jersey. Let's salute Jersey, man. Red Man. Queen Latifah. Naughty by Nature. Lords of the Underground. Artifacts. Wyclef. Pras. Sugar Hill. Fetty Wap.

43:19Joe Buttons. Ransom. Chill Rob G. Rod Digger. Outsiders. Hurricane G. Apache. Redhead Kingpin. Redhead Kingpin. Come on, man. I'm leaving niggas out. Don't leave niggas out. Club Zanzibar. Lords of the Underground. Poor Righteous Teachers. Shaq. Yes. Shaq, for Righteous T, let's go. The whole jersey salute. Naughty by nature, Tretch. Tretch is an unsung hero. You said Tretch. Yeah, but let's try to break it down, though. You just want to run through the list like that. Let's go. I think Redman... I follow your lead. I think Redman is the most underrated MC ever lived in a hip-hop game. Hell no.

44:14I think it's not about Redman. It would be crazy. Yeah, but they don't know about Redman the way they know about Redman. But maybe me and you know about the food. Nah, nah. So you think a random commercialized... And they know about Redman. They know about Redman. You know about hip hop, you fucking know about Redman. And they don't give him his props. It's impossible. Redman was so good. Who is they? I'm talking about they. I don't know who they is. They don't want us to win. They don't want us... They, they. Nah, they get Redman as that nigga, though. Hypothetically speaking. Kidding me. Redgie is that nigga, though.

44:49I agree so I'm just trying to say I think he's one of the greatest MCs of all time he's just my point is his name should be up there when everybody's top 10 top 5 whatever they want to do he's that good right Queen Latifah iconic legendary there's nothing we can do about that that's legendary Just put her up there on, just put her on a lot of Rushmore's of all type of shit. Different umbrellas of Rushmore's. You know what he by nature? They had the game in the frizzy. Rip shit. Oh, hey. Vinny KG. KG went on to produce a lot of - Shaheem, Shahnau. Shahnau. He had all of the dudes rocking. Next.

45:44Next. Next is one of my favorite groups. Right? Shout out to RL. RL. The Outsiders, I put them into the equation because they're the first people I ever seen bring Eminem out. Fatal Hussein, rest in peace. Fatal Hussein. That was crazy to me, right? One day we got an interview, Muta Bell on here, from the Outsiders, and explained how did the Tupac, Were they cousins or something? Because he's LA. The outlaws. The outlaws. Fader Hussein. That was my man. What I'm saying is, when they beef in the East Coast, West Coast, it's crazy that the guys who's on all the ill records with pockets from Jersey.

46:33How did that happen? Did they meet him in LA? How did that go down? Like, this is the East Coast, West Coast beef. And these guys was from right here under the nose of New York, Jersey. And so, uh, who else we got on that list for Jersey, we said. Paul Wright's teaching was incredible. Fetty Wap, Joe Rob G, Rob Higgins, Fetty Wap, Sugar Hill Gang, Wyclef, Lauren, Brian Hill, greatest female of all time. I don't care what you say. You know, sometimes people get mad because certain artists are put in a level of it ain't even artists. People say, who's your top five? You bring up Lauren, they might be like, yo, she don't even count, but she does count.

47:27Right? I made a mistake. Why wouldn't she count? She's the greatest of all time. Some people say she don't count. They got to get out of here. She counts. But they think she's the cheat code. She's the AI. So what I'm saying is, the other day, I take the top five DJs. Top five DJs. With Khaled, I threw him in that category. I was like, yo, Khaled too big. They even call him a DJ. They didn't piss kick him pre-off with that. Why? Because he wanted to big up Khaled. I don't even know what he's pissed off about. I put him first on the list. I'm going to stop bigging niggas up. No, it's like two or three guys that I bigged up.

48:16And they wind up dissing me. And I'm like sitting here like, yo, like I'm bigging you up. But Khaled definitely would have been on my top five DJ list. You know, but when I look at Khaled, I always look at him as his catalog. It's so big. Man, DJ Khaled. His catalog is so big. I feel like it's so much bigger than just DJing. When you a DJ and you got a DJ, shout out to DJ Nasty from Orlando. When Khaled doesn't show, he got a DJ. He don't DJ. He has a DJ. Yeah, when you a DJ with a DJ, hello? Let's go DJ. Let's go DJ. But there's certain people on that list. Doghouse got a doghouse. Chill Rob G.

49:08That's one of the most classic. It's getting. It's getting kind of hectic. SP put me on the Chill Rob G in high school. SP used to love Chill Rob G. He put me on. He was nice. He was nice. He was dope. And he had a big commercial hit. I got the power. It was Chill Rob G. Who else? They had two versions. How did they have it? Imagine you did YJ to one of this and to that. And somebody else got the same song, same beat. How did that happen? It was two I Got the Powers at the same time. Video music, but I played both of them. How did that happen? One Chill Rob G and one the other. I think it was Snap.

49:53CNC Music Factory. They were both hits at the same fucking time. Same beat. Same song. I Got the Power. How did they pull that shit off? That must have been before Clearing Samples, huh? Sports talk, man. Gilbert Arenas got arrested. What the fuck is going on? Oh. It's like it right here, dog. Yo! What the fuck is going on with these ballplayers? What's my man, Bridges? He's still in the fucking NBA, the two twins. Morris. What? Morris. He got locked up, too. I think that was a mistake. Huh? I think Gil's shit wasn't as big as they, you know, I don't think it was. He got locked up by the feds.

50:44But he also got out. And I think twin, I think twin, that was a mistake too. Like, I think that was a mistake. He got the money. It don't make sense to you, right? Yeah, he got the, sometimes. So that was my immediate reaction of like. Things like that happen in a casino. And then because you black, they make it bigger. Let me explain some of you. I hate to burst your bubble. I'm not going to burst my bubble. I don't owe nobody nothing. Yeah. I hate to burst your bubble. God willing, I'm wrong. But I've seen this play out. These illegal gambling spots and somebody who's famous is involved in all that.

51:24They usually get a year in the day. They could do a year in the day. Okay, I'm just going to tell you that. When I see them stories, I know how that shit play out. and they came and got you, you know, 99 out of 100 times. When them alphabet letters come to that front door, your best choice is saying, okay, let's see what's the least time we're going to get. Unfortunately, it's like that. Now, if you want to be Robin Hood and think you can take them on and beat them and you're lucky enough or whatever, but these are terrible I just don't wish that for them I wish it never happened whatever it is I hope it's a mistake like you say cause it's crazy it's not the feds with twin and Gil said he's snitching he said he's snitching it's jokes man you be alright Rich how you feel about Jerry Jones don't want to pay Micah Parsons what you think Rich Mr.

52:28Dallas Cowboy How you feel about that? It's not as straight. He's down there on the staff at Dallas. We got it. Definitely. They paid your man with the real stinky leg. What's your man? Dak Prescott. Dak got one of them. What? His shit is like hybrid glazing. Yo. His shit. I put up a picture one time. I was about to get canceled. That boy got the leg. What? That boy broke his leg one time. His shit was like hubbacraffing me. Like, made me look like a perfect leg. His shit. Perfect leg. His shit. I posted it. When I tell you the death threats I got, like, yo, you know, this shit was quick. He's a fraud.

53:20Dak Prescott is a fraud. And he's only there to sell candles. Candles? Huh? Campbell's, no, I'm saying candles and fragrances. Your man is lollipop records. He's not gonna win no chip. I guess we ain't get anybody. We ain't getting to feel best. The sad part, you know he's a handsome guy. They market him. Stoney. They don't wanna win games? Nah. Not with him. I don't see that. And then Parsons, who's worth the money, they're giving them a hard time. You know what you got to understand is this is almost like the government. Right? There's people this government does some things that although we're proud Americans and we vote and we pack taxpayers and all that we don't agree with but we can't change it.

54:13They're the government. It's the same thing with the owners of franchises. Jerry Jones anybody in their right mind who's a fucking Dallas Cowboy fan knows pay that man. Stop playing with him. Because you don't want to lose him, right? Worldwide West sends his love. Big shout out to West. We love you, baby.

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58:03Oh, I went, I went, I went. Yo, yo, yo. I got a yo, yo, yo for you. Yo, I went to SummerSlam. What's the guy that works for Michael Rubin? sitting next to me, the redhead guy, Michael. Look up his name. He's the president of Fanatics. He's sitting next to me because I got a witness. Okay, so I go to SummerSlam. I'm trying to tell you. I'm about to tell you a story that's going to ring off Cap Mania. They're going to be like, it's not true, but it's a million percent true. So I go to SummerSlam, right? And I went because a good friend of mine, Jelly Roll, was wrestling. Right? So I know he trained four months.

58:49I know Jelly Roll, but you know he's a big boy. You know, I stick with the big boys. Pause. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I told you already. That ain't even part of the story. All the fat guys, I'm in their corner. Right? So I go, huh? Mike Herman is Mike. Whoever knows Mike Herman, he's the president for that. He's sitting right next. The point is, Cardi B sitting there too. He get to the Jelly Roll. It's Jelly Roll against Logan Paul. And Jelly Roll come out with this guy. What's that rest of Jelly Roll have with him? Yo, Kiss, none of us. None of us want the fair one. We don't even want the 10-on-one.

59:39We don't even want to be able to have a knife to fight this guy. What? What? Randy Orton even if he gave you weapons you don't want to fight this guy this guy so big bro like he's unreal anybody go google him if you don't know wrestling this guy's the prototype right he might be the first human AI guy right I'm looking at the dude Logan Paul's incredible right but I'm looking at the he's unreal is what I'm saying as a human being it's like this guy is a problem right so I go I'm looking and I'm cheering Jelly Roll up they are beating the brakes off of Jelly Roll they are double suplexing them they doing my man so filthy now I'm a fat guy so I know every bone I know what he I know every bone I'm a fat guy who lost weight too so I know when he falls I say I, that's two months out of the country awards.

1:00:46He is not going to the country awards. Not after this shit. This was a childhood dream. I salute you, Jelly Roll. In fact, I've never seen a celebrity. Because you know you had Donald Trump in there. You had a bunch of celebrities. Mike Tyson. That went up in there, but didn't really do. Snoop Floyd. Jelly Roll was on top of the robes, getting suplexed, getting hit with chairs over the like he was all in. They beat the brakes out of this guy. Yo, and I'm there for Jelly Roll, right? So I'm filming this shit. They put him on the table, right? I got it on my story. I'm front row. They put him on the table and Logan Paul's up on the top row.

1:01:35He's outside on the table in front of the things. the man jumps and crashes on Jelly Roll I immediately was like alright there he goes out for four months there's no way I mean they suckered me in so Jelly Roll's acting like he's hurt so there's about a I was about to say 100 let me just keep it off the cap circuit 10 guys ran over and girls 10 guys and girls ran over oh my god are you okay I'm thinking he's hurt because I'm a fat guy. I know what just happened. I know the vertebrae. I know his shit is fucked up, B. So I'm thinking he's really hurt. I'm like, yo, come on, Jelly. Come on, but I'm really concerned.

1:02:21I'm going to be honest with you, Joseph Antonio Cartagena is concerned about Jelly, bro. They beat the shit out this dude so bad. Fucking seven-foot shit. They don't. Yo, when they did the double on him, I said, come on. I can't do it. No amount of money. No amount of money could they double suplex me. I'd be dead. I'm going to be honest with you. I break my own shit. I don't know what the fuck Jelly Roll did to endure it. But anyway, they got him on the floor. I'm believing it. OK? And Cardi B's right next to me. Get up. Get up. She's all in. Right? So I'm sitting there. I'm like, Jelly. I'm really, all jokes aside word to my mother, I'm thinking he's really hurt.

1:03:11They ran over like they didn't do this the whole time. They ran over like telling him, yo Jelly, Jelly, and they talking to him. I'm thinking this guy, he gets up and help him up. Took like 10 minutes. They fucking this man up over there, his tag team partner. They beating the break. They jumping him to death over there. He's getting his ass. The big guy? They beat the brace off this dude while Jelly Roll was like, you know, Jelly Roll gets up and turns around and says, I'm sorry, Joe. I can't fight no more. I can't make, I tried, Joe. Thank you for supporting me, Joe. It's a million people in this fucking arena.

1:03:56This is Jelly Roll. Out of anybody, I swear to God, he looked at me, I'm sorry, Joe. Joe, I can't. Joe, I let you down. Joe, Michael, what's his name? It's right next to me. He said they definitely not going to believe me. The guy from Fanatics, he said they're not going to believe this shit. Jelly Roll was telling me, I'm sorry, Joe. I can't finish. I can't. I'm like, but Jelly, I'm patting him on his back. Yo, Jelly, he's like, I'm sorry, Joe. I know you supported me. This, this, that. And he's walking. and I'm like, damn, they fucked Jelly, bro. But in true WWE fashion, he gets to the tip. He turns around, he starts looking, and they're like, Jelly, Jelly.

1:04:44And all of a sudden, the motherfucker, I got the power! Came back. He came back and started clotheslining dudes, fucking him up. I got suckered for the wrestling. I felt like a hoker maniac. I felt like back in the day. I'm looking at Jelly Roll Jelly Jelly screaming with the crowd Jelly Jelly and let me tell you something they still lost but I gotta salute Jelly Roll for y 'all I could I cannot maybe I'm too old maybe he's a little bit Jelly Roll might be younger than me right I personally know I can't take that for sure for sure I can't take it man he's way younger than me I get it 40 years old maybe 39 940 out of Trident.

1:05:32Right about now, with these amphibious legs, that shit off. NBA, Luka got the new muscles, the new contract. Luka came up to Dykeman and was shooting from the seat. They was going crazy at Dykeman for the guard. WNBA, they've been throwing joint skis on the court. You seen that? No. They was throwing joint skis. They threw a rubber joint skis. They went to Dynasty Steve Kamadi? No, not joint skis. Joint skis. They throwing dildos on the court in the WNBA. That's a dildo? Is a joint ski? I mean, I didn't want to try to keep it politically correct. Yo, but let me tell you something, man. This shit out of control.

1:06:18Yo, America's gone. Wow. Joint skis on the court is great. And they keep throwing lime green ones. They caught the last. Somebody just got arrested. Somebody try to keep it going and not going. Man, I went to the NBA, the WNBA with Remy, and she pulled up in my house, and she got not just the short shorts, but short shorts. The shorts. So I'm looking at her. I'm like, yo, sis, like, you going to wear that shit in the game? What are you talking about, bro? I said, yo, my man, yo. Yo. Every time I look at the bench, they doing this to Remy. Heart shit. Blow and kiss. Soon as the game ended, they ran over Remy.

1:07:04I was like, yo, you look for the shit. You came to the fluidity.

1:07:13No, I ain't lying. And we love him. I'm a big fan of the WNBA. I got no problems. But I warned her premeditated. Don't wear it. I said, yo, listen, this is going to be an issue. She don't want. I said, all right. Every time I look over my shoulder, they're going, sending hearts and shit at Ram. I say, yo, Ram, you came to the wrong. You came to the wrong. Them motherfuckers, they ran over at the end of the game. Hey, Ram, love you, this, this, that. But they throwing joint skis at the game. That's violation. Yeah, that's violation. But it gotta be, nah, I ain't even jamming myself up like that.

1:07:51Don't. Please. Please don't. Please don't. Because. Don't do it. Rich, flag. Don't do it. Pre-flag. Yo, let me tell you something, Jadakiss. Congratulations. You're in the algorithm. Yo, this man, it didn't take long for this man to get in the system. The joint skis on the court. That's the funniest shit I ever heard in my life. I thought you meant like they had Dykeman throwing joints at Luca. No, no, like joints. Like marijuana. Yeah, pre-robes. Not pre-robes. They throwing joint skis on the court. Lime green joint skis. Oh, why they lime green? I don't know where they got the color away from.

1:08:37I just know he's throwing joint skis, man. We got to stop this. Pay them ladies what you owed them. You know what? And stop throwing them joint skis on the court, man. Yeah, somebody lost one of the mayor bets. They needed somebody to have two more points. They took a mount joint ski on them. They threw the yalla on them. Yeah, that's what be happening. Yo, May is over there like this guy got 12. Who was it? You spent 10 ,000 you had on that game. Right. Tell everybody. What was the guy? What was the guy who scored 12? Chad Holgram, bro. They pulled him out 12. I was like, yo, for sure. It was like seven minutes left.

1:09:14I'm like, for sure. He spent 9 ,000, ladies and gentlemen. May has spent 9 ,000. 9 ,000. Yeah, that was a$9 ,000 back. that's a Canadian border conversation there let me tell you something nobody bigger than the program nobody is bigger than the program and when people start thinking they bigger than the program that's when they disappear you know and even I me I've had the conversation because people look at me like I'm the leader of my crew But I've had the conversation with guys in my crew where I say, nobody's bigger than the program. Even Fat Joe is accessible. If I, for some reason, I'm out of here, you know, the show goes on.

1:10:08I ain't just talking about rap. I'm just talking about in life. And so people get confused thinking they bigger than the program. Like, yeah, your contributions is incredible. Yeah, we appreciate what you do. I mean, if you want to be tough, we got 30 tough guys. What you feel about people when they start thinking they bigger than the program? Come on, deal with them. Let God sort them out. Kill them and then let God sort them out. I love that. Let me get these questions in. Yeah, Jade is on one today, boy. Let me tell you so. Yo, by the way, if yesterday's the third, the fourth anniversary of the versus locks and dipset, then today's the anniversary of yesterday's price.

1:11:00It's not today's price.

1:11:06Hello. Hello. We didn't even got to do no questions, dog. That was it. We don't need no questions. We got to end it with that, man. I got to say, shout out, rest in peace to Chubby Baby. No doubt. It was Dipset that moved down to Atlanta because he threw the battery in my back. I went to my store the next day. He was, you know, he was Dipset. So we start talking about this shit. I said, you know what? Let me crack this IG open, pause, and talk about my experience in this because he was so passionate about it that we was going back and forth so much. I said, you know, maybe somebody want to hear about this shit.

1:11:48And the numbers, because I used to do the IG, the numbers was, I don't even know how many, we had hundreds of thousands of people on the live at one time. I never did that before. And while I'm talking my shit, I'll talk about you and I just say, yo, any producer, any promoter that was negotiating with Jadakiss's team last week and didn't book them, just know that yesterday's price is not today's price. Yesterday's price is not today's price. And Superviral, did I cash in on it? I don't know. I don't think I did much of it, but I didn't get merch. I didn't, you know, I thought I could sue somebody.

1:12:34They had a bank company with a dude who was dancing. Yesterday's price is not saying it like me. I said, yo, can I sue him? He was like, look. He was like, you don't own this shit. He was like, damn, I thought we had him. I'm not going to sue somebody of our nature, but you got a bank? White dude with an umbrella? Yesterday's price is not saying that I said, oh, I got him. He was like, no, you can't sue. You know. But it was fun times. Yeah, thank you. Let's get these questions, James. Yesterday's price is not today's price. that phrase right there changed my life. Let me tell you something. And shout out to, uh, what's your tea?

1:13:16Kanye, Kanye sample that started that yesterday. So I had that crack, crack, crack, crack, crack on diet Coke. If I would have told him, it would have been a diet Pepsi, even though I look like a human diet Coke today. You know what I'm saying? Get the questions. Let's go. Yo, this is Brad register from Wildwood, Florida. now residing in Newport News, Virginia. I like what you guys are doing, man. I love y 'all's show. My question is, when you guys were coming up through hip-hop, what was y 'all's favorite show out of your MTV Raps or Rap City? And also, could you guys try to get Fab Five Freddy on the show?

1:13:58Because I know you guys like hearing stories and stuff like that. And he's been around hip-hop for a long time, so I know he got crazy stories. Yo MTV Raps or Rap City? Rap City. Yo MTV Rap. I'm going to disrespect the whole shit and say video music box. Video music box, really. He didn't give us that option. We like the video music box more than both of them. Now, Fab Five Freddy. We need him on the show. From Graffiti, we need Fab Five Freddy on the show. He's real hip-hop. Fab Five Freddy, I think he did the first collab because when I was looking into like, I can't explain it to you any other way.

1:14:37The Bronx was a war zone. Like people live in abandoned buildings. The biggest gang wasn't the Bloods and Crips. It was the Stray Dogs. So when I think about the beginning of hip hop, I can't believe a white girl. Fat Five Freddy's from the Bronx? No, I'm not saying that. Thank the Lord. But it started in the Bronx. Russell Simmons came to the Bronx. They all came to the Bronx. the fever the first night club playing hip-hop is in the Bronx, Salah Botello what I'm trying to say is I never understood the first major collaboration was Blondie I never understood how this white girl had the heart to either go Cedric, Bronx River or my hood and make this song and have rappers on there and then when I went down to like trying to figure out how it happened.

1:15:34Fat Five Freddie made that happen. You know how early he had to be in the game of hip hop to make that song possible? The Blondie? Rapture. That's the beginning of hip hop. So I agree with this brother right here. We need Fat Five Freddie on this show just to keep it. I mean, that's what I think we're doing, preserving the culture. Next question, please. Yo, Jada, this is not a question. Do you remember walking into TGI Fridays in Yonkers at Cross County and buying a girl a Hennessy shot after leaving the hospital? You had a hospital van. That's my newborn baby. That was the coolest thing you've ever done.

1:16:20I was in absolute shock. I said nothing. You said nothing. Bought me a shot of Hennessy and walked out. I love you. One of my favorite rappers. I just have to share that memory with you in case you don't remember that. I have no recollection. I was off anesthesia. He got super love for you. And shout out to Stu Lennon. Stu Lennon and Yonkers, man, they came out for that. So he sat a rum. Puerto Rican rum. They came out about 100. You knew it, right? You told me it was going to be lit. Stu Lennon, Yonkers. What's up, y 'all? Yo, Joe. Yo, Jada. What up, man? your boy ranks a million from the Bronx and all that.

1:16:58I just want to ask, why are DJs and mainstream artists not discovering or breaking new artists no more? They leaving it all to the new artists to do it by themselves, and then they want to help once the up-and-coming artists already did what they needed the help with? I think that's on the individual. I mean, some people don't know how to ask for help. Some people don't know how to offer help. Some people don't know how to do either one. Me, I gave up on helping artists. I'm all out of favors myself. I'm all out of taking every relationship I ever had and signing you and introducing you to all my important people and then paying for your videos, buying your clothes, putting you in the studio, helping you make the hits, and then as soon as you pop, you tell me I ain't shit.

1:17:48I'm not doing that no more. I'm firm on it. In fact, I heard an artist. And I'm going to shout you out. I don't know what your name is. But I went to this thing pretty little. We doing this DJ turntable thing, battle thing. And everybody was in there. And I went to Jersey. And I went down there. And some dude rapped. Who normally I would have signed him in one second. This guy was so nice. Lyrically, fluidly. Every word he said came crystal clear. and after he performed, he came around me and all I could do was say, yo, bro, congratulations. Was I with you or Chris? Chris said, yo, Joe, this guy's incredible.

1:18:33I said, yeah, but he's going to tell me to suck his dick and, you know, he was the biggest in the game before he met me. He's the livest. He knows everything. I'm like, I'm not doing that. I just can't help you no more. I've been burnt too many times, boss. Next question, please. Hey, what's up, y 'all, man? This is DJ Nasson Nate calling straight out of South Florida, man, from Four Miles. Hey, my question is, man, y 'all been doing this so long, but what's the one thing that you wish you would have never did? One thing I wish I never did is gave so many people my phone number. Hmm. You got the same number for, like, 20 years and all that?

1:19:16Recently. I used to change my shit. like socks. What was the question again, James? What's one of the things you wish you never did? Beat so many people up. Certain ones... Should have talked it out. Yeah, yeah. Should have talked it out a few times. It was certain ones that when I look back, I just say it just didn't make sense. And I'm keeping it a buck. It didn't make sense that when I look back at it now, Like, yo, you know what? Because sometimes you beat a guy up and they become martyrs. And people, you know, look at them like, you know, they wasn't even authorized to get beat up. These guys didn't even deserve it.

1:20:02You know, but now they're the guys that Fat Joe and the Terror Squad beat up. And they running around like, yo, that's homie. You know, Fat Joe and them beat them up. Like, too much fluidity for these guys in the hood. They didn't even deserve it. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I'm Joe Crack. Your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada. Another legendary episode. Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you like, share, subscribe. Word of mouth. Ha ha!

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