Fat Joe & Jadakiss talk Clipse's Grammy noms, NO HIP HOP in Top 40, Michael Jackson movie & Max B

18 Nov 2025 · 1 h 11 min · 26 chapters

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In short

Fat Joe and Jadakiss discuss Clipse’s five Grammy nominations and whether Billboard’s Top 40 charting reflects hip-hop’s health; they also debate the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic (Antoine Fuqua directing) and how media narratives changed from MJ’s era to today’s social media. They add commentary on podcast/award politics, plus sports talk and Thanksgiving food relief.

Guests (as mentioned in the episode)

  1. Eric (a.k.a. “The Bag of Chandler,” “Catch a Case”) and Jeff (a.k.a. “Shooter Boy in Blue,” “Papa Smurf”)—described as “the real,” long-time figures who were invited on during the show.
  2. No other formal guest interview is clearly presented in the transcript; most other references are to artists/figures they mention (e.g., Chance the Rapper, Drake, Michael Jackson, Pharrell).

Key claims

  • Billboard Top 40 presence for hip-hop is “sad” because the culture is being used commercially, but great hip-hop is still being made.
  • Grammys are political; awards don’t always match “best” work (they cite past snubs and argue the “fix” exists).
  • Social media makes it harder to control narratives and can pressure relationships.

Notable examples

  • Clipse: “five Grammy nominations” and they should win “one or two,” with Pharrell helping.
  • Drake allegedly removed from the Top 40; they speculate he’ll return.
  • Michael Jackson biopic: they expect “truth telling” and behind-the-scenes exposure.
  • They reference past Grammy controversies (e.g., Jay-Z’s nine nominations without a win; DMX beating someone they felt should’ve won).

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Chapters

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Intro to the Show

2:35 to 4:36

Joe and Jada introduce themselves and share their show's significance in hip-hop culture.

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Hip-Hop's Current State

4:36 to 6:22

Discussion on the decline of hip-hop in mainstream charts and its cultural significance.

“I could always make a meme out of you at the Versus when you like, yo, I'm from it.”

Influence of Hip-Hop on Other Genres

6:22 to 7:46

Exploration of how hip-hop shapes other music genres and trends, including Grammy nominations.

“The other day, I just realized the number one producer of K-pop is a dude from fucking Compton.”

Michael Jackson Biopic Discussion

7:46 to 11:28

Speculation on the upcoming Michael Jackson film and its potential revelations.

“And so, you know, when they eliminated Drake off the charts, you know, they went on that full court price.”

Social Media Impact on Relationships

11:28 to 14:02

Discussion on how social media affects love and relationships in today's world.

“because IG, we all addicted to this shit.”

Michael Jackson's Financial Struggles and the Grammys

14:02 to 28:00

Exploration of Michael Jackson's financial situation and critiques of the Grammys.

“Now they had like a low budget Michael Jackson movie on one of these shits.”

Fashion and Sneakers Discussion

28:00 to 28:34

Joe and Jada share thoughts on sneakers and fashion influences.

“And I was like, damn, that's how you do it.”

Fashion and Sneakers Discussion

28:38 to 30:18

Joe and Jada share thoughts on sneakers and fashion influences.

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Basketball Talk: Players and Performances

33:34 to 38:27

Joe and Jada discuss NBA players and their performances, including anecdotes.

“You know, Kevin Liles is my neighbor, man.”

Community and Thanksgiving Initiatives

38:27 to 41:18

Conversations about giving back to the community during tough times.

“Like, you put up half, they put up half?”
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Food and Culture Discussion

41:18 to 42:00

Joe and Jada talk about food experiences and cultural exchanges.

“You know, we don't talk about politics here, but it's fucked up.”

Discussing Food and Culture

42:00 to 43:21

The hosts share personal anecdotes about food and cultural influences.

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Thanksgiving Turkeys and Neighborhood Stories

43:21 to 44:49

The conversation turns to holiday traditions and local stories about wild turkeys.

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Podcasting Journey and Aspirations

44:49 to 46:48

The hosts reflect on their past podcasting experiences and aspirations.

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Epic Storytelling Moments

46:48 to 48:57

Discussion on storytelling in hip-hop, highlighting memorable moments from past interviews.

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Jail Experience and Survival Tactics

48:57 to 51:41

Fat Joe shares his experiences in jail and the lessons learned about survival and reputation.

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Coaching and Community Building in Jail

51:41 to 56:01

Joe discusses his role in coaching a basketball team while incarcerated and fostering community.

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Coaching Experience and Community Impact

56:01 to 57:01

Learn how a coaching experience transformed a group of young players.

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Podcast Origins with the Locks

57:02 to 58:52

Discover how the hosts' podcast journey began with the legendary group, The Locks.

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Memorable Encounters and Movie Discussions

58:53 to 59:50

Hear about amusing encounters and the hosts' unique take on movie discussions.

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Memorable Encounters and Movie Discussions

1:00:05 to 1:00:36

Hear about amusing encounters and the hosts' unique take on movie discussions.

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Discussion on New York's Creative Scene

1:02:19 to 1:09:31

Explore the challenges and changes in New York's creative landscape.

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A Light-hearted Conversation on Hair and Image

1:09:31 to 1:10:01

Enjoy a humorous discussion about hair, image, and personal anecdotes.

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Hair Aspirations and Personal Stories

1:10:01 to 1:13:11

The hosts share humorous anecdotes about hair and personal transformations.

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Reflecting on Max B's Release and Impact

1:13:11 to 1:16:49

Discussion about Max B's release from prison and his influence on hip-hop culture.

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Authority and Personal Encounters

1:16:49 to 1:20:24

Joe shares a personal story about his run-ins with the police and feelings of authority.

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3:11Yeah, yeah, what up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack, the dog. You know who it is, your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Fucking right. Every show legendary, every show iconic. Stepping on niggas next. So, you know, we got mad requests. Everybody, like, I've never seen people get mad because we're getting the best guests in the world. Every day, somebody legendary just pull up to the show. They've been begging us. Like, yo, when we going to get a Joe and Jada? I'm like, yo, this shit, yo, it must be horrible to be the competition, me. because, like, niggas pulling up on this shit so crazy.

3:50It's like, yo, every day we can't stop. I got to tell people I can't do it. I actually have to tell certain artists. They hit me up and be like, yo, we just can't do it. You know, Jada's on a cruise. I'm over here. Like, I'm sorry. Big people. I mean, this shit got motherfucker dizzy. You know what I'm saying? I know it. I know it. And we ain't stop throwing that shit on. Them niggas is flabby and sick right now. You know what I'm saying? Hip-hop is here. Hip-hop is here. The buck stops here. Nowhere else. I know I've been calling us the rookies of the year. It's starting to look like rookie of the year, MVP's biggest show on earth.

4:31Shit. I'm being honest with you. I'm as humble as I can keep it. This is the biggest show in the game. Oh, y 'all think I ain't being humble? I'm being very humble. I could be disrespectful. I think you are. Nah. I think that was very disrespectful. You know, hip-hop is competition. I could always make a meme out of you at the Versus when you like, yo, I'm from it. Like, that's how I came in the game thinking it's competition, even though we got love for people, we got love for everybody. We want everybody to win. We want everybody to get the bag. But ain't nobody bigger than us. That's what we do, baby.

5:14Man, look at Jada. Boy, that boy can smell that money, right? You know, it smells like Jada be like, his wife looking at him while he sleep. He like, yo-la-la, he-hoo, yo-la-la, he-hoo. That boy Jada up in that motherfucker looking like, la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la. He's crazy. That shit crazy. Girl, let me tell you. Hey, y 'all. Shout out to our sponsors. Hard Rock, Ace of Spade, everybody. And so hip hop, it's been 35 years. This is the first time being the top 10 record or top 40 in the hip hop in Billboard. That's sad. Okay, break it down. Break down why you think it's sad. I mean, whenever something is running for so long, it is dramatically just not there.

6:11that's sad we gotta look at that what I mean is we're losing control we're losing the grip of the culture you're supposed to stay on there forever they use hip hop for everything every commercial every fucking marketing tool to sell everything let me tell you something the other day I was telling y 'all when I listen to country I listen to other forms of music is always hip-hop influenced. The other day, I just realized the number one producer of K-pop is a dude from fucking Compton. Hip-hop dude from Compton. It's always our source that goes to every other genre or whatever the case may be. Country music, same shit.

6:56They using our pen. The flip side is, is the art more important? You know what I'm saying? So I feel like we've been getting great hip-hop lately, whether it's the Mobb Deep album or the Clips. or just because they ain't charting Cardi B's album was crazy. So just because they ain't charting on the top 40 billboard doesn't mean the art, you know, people ain't creating music. I've been happy with hip hop this year. Shout out to Clipsman, five Grammy nominations. You know what I mean? That means something. So somewhere somebody, something ain't mapping. It's the art. Everybody just said, fuck the billboard, fuck the hits, fuck that.

7:38Let's make dope music. And the people are saying, I love it. You know what I'm saying? The critics, whatever, saying I love it. And so, you know, when they eliminated Drake off the charts, you know, they went on that full court price. I think they eliminated him. I think he just chill. I think he chill. I think he gonna come back. I think he gonna come back and massive destructive takeover. No, I agree one billion percent. But what I'm saying for right now, you know, you you realize that Drake was probably keeping us in that top 40 for fucking five, 10 years. Like every record he made was going number one.

8:17So it's like any records he made was going number one. He, I think he battling Michael Jackson for the most number ones. So he was on that. He, he was on that chart. You know, they make it a Michael Jackson movie. You heard about that? The guy who made training date fruit con. What's his name? Antoine Fuqua. Antoine Fuqua. You know I'm fried, nigga. Like, yo, come on, yo, kiss. You know I don't get shit right, but you know my heart's in the right place. Yo. Yo, yeah. You know? Oh, shit. What you think that flick's going to be like? What was the casting? We got to see what's going on in the casting.

9:01Who they going to cast? Who going to be Mike? His nephew's going to be the star, Michael. Michael Jackson's nephew? Is he going to be a Crip or no? Or after the surgery, because I met a kid named, he said he was Michael Jackson's son, but he looked like Michael Jackson after the surgery. Yo, yo, yo! Yo! I met a dude, there's a dude running around New York. I swear to God he looked like Michael Jackson. They say Michael Jackson's son. I got no cousins in New York. But he looked, I'm telling you, I met the guy. he looked like Michael Jackson after the surgeries. He don't look like original Michael.

9:40You know what I'm saying? So his nephew, he looked like what? He's in the family? They got him like, you know, anything Michael Jackson, I'm pulling up to the movie theater. I don't give a fuck. But I also think that this is going to be a lot of truth telling in this Michael Jackson biopic. You know, we see what's going on now. so what's going on now in life we finally caught up to it we finally like oh shit that's what they doing like smear campaigns and having you know starting rumors about certain people AI yeah but AI now what I'm saying is a lot of the shit they did to Mike caught with AI a lot of the shit they did to Michael Jackson was ahead of the time and we couldn't see because the media was way more controlled it wasn't no phone so they were saying whatever they want on the tabloid who was the leader whoever had that tabloid on lock was controlling the narrative if you had beef with somebody strong enough to add the plug to the Rupert Murdoch you're fried they can say anything they want about you in them tabloids and have people looking at you crazy you go to the supermarket you buy the magazine that's how you know so if MJ had beef with anybody because he was very very powerful they was controlling that narrative in the fucking magazines those inquirers and all of them shits is bullshit but at the time people took it serious what I'm trying to tell you at the time people took it like right now I feel like social media fucked up love like I definitely if you younger if you ain't been with your wife a long time she gotta stay out of IG because IG, we all addicted to this shit.

11:32When fucking Michael Jordan started crying, Michael Jordan is the, listen, I know Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, the last guy you would think is on IG. When he was at the Kobe funeral and he was crying, he said, yeah, they're going to make a meme out of me. Don't tell me he don't know what IG is. He knew the time. Quick. When he was crying at Kobe funeral, he said himself, oh, they're going to make a meme out of this. Jerry West laughed when he said that. Like the people we think ain't on Instagram is on Instagram. Right? So everybody's watching social media. Social media, how are you in love?

12:11You take one wrong pick, the pressure will force your relationship to break up off the wrong pick. You ain't even got an opportunity to fix it. Especially these young kids. It's like social media fucked up love. What happened to love? Know what I'm saying? And then relationships are supposed to go up and down. You're supposed to deal with it. It ain't always perfect. But with all that pressure, you be on that shade room with the shit between the line like this. With the line. Yeah, with the line. Shit over. You didn't even make the choice. They'll make it for you. They'll be like, hey, it's time to go.

12:51The line. That shit crazy. The line. The line. Now the phone is different. We get to see more aspects. That's why people can't sweep shit under the rug. But back in the day, in the MJ era, they could control the media. I promise you, this movie's good. I don't know. My prediction is it's going to deal with, you know, behind the scenes of like shit they was doing to him to make people look sideways at MJ. I'm sure if Homeboy from the training day does that it's going to be a lot of exposing the clips let's go back to the clips in the Grammys now we just talking we shooting this shit we just the movie Jumpers but let me ask you something you want to say something to be had for that the MJ I hope it's a great film I know it will be with Antoine at the helm of it hopefully it'll be a great film and we get to see some stuff we never knew about in depth.

13:56Yeah. I want to see some stuff. Because every time I see like a fake little Michael Jackson movie, it always be like the same shit. It don't be, you know, the guy. You seen the last one? They had like a real cheap one. The security. The cheap one. Now they had like a low budget Michael Jackson movie on one of these shits. Not Tubi. not to me but a little above that where the security was telling his side of the story he was saying that Michael Jackson never paid them like he was broke when we thought he was the richest but he always had that shit he ain't want to sell so they would always come to him and be like anytime

14:39yo this guy yo MJ was rich MJ was rich for so long that nigga was walking in stores buying $10 million worth of shit. Like, it was a pack of bubble gum. And one day they told him, yo, you ain't got it like that. But they kept telling him, yo, MJ, you got to do everybody. There's family, security. Everybody kept saying, yo, get rid of the catalog and you'll have a billion dollars right now. So even though he was going through hard times, nothing like what we think, but it was hard times, he always knew he had a billion dollars. He always knew, like, at any point, he could just sell the key to a billion dollars.

15:21And everybody, that was everybody's conversation around MJ was like, yo, you can just sell it for a billion dollars. They said he went to some other shit. He wanted to make, like, Never Never Land Part 2. And when he went to get the money, they was like, yo, you ain't got it. And even the realtor was selling them. Yo, just sell a catalog and buy this shit like nothing. everybody knew he had that shit they all knew like yeah he fucked up but he ain't really fucked up it's almost like when Kanye West went on that tantrum and he was like he a billionaire even if they fuck all this shit up he's still worth 200-300 million that's a cool spot to be at you know so let's go back to the Grammys right because the Grammys are full of shit but remember that year Hov had nine nominations and they ain't given him an award.

16:14You don't remember that shit? I was there. Yeah, they'll fuck you, man. They'll fuck you. I think the Clips win too. It's the best album of the year as far as I know, but they'll fuck you. You know, the Grammys, they do everything you can't believe somebody could do. Like me, I want to shout out Chance the Rapper. He's been taking a bad rap from me. I've been killing him in all my interviews and shit. because I didn't think he deserved to be all the way up. I really still don't, but I'm going to just say to him, I saw you on your little interview on the podcast and you addressed it the right way.

16:52You're correct. I should have won many, I was nominated for like six Grammys. At least all the way up and lean back for sure. I think I should have won. Lean back, I lost to like, I don't know. Who was it, Everett? Come on, let's lean back. You know what I'm saying? Man, we lost to Avonessens. You know what I'm saying? You see this shit? Grammys, they'll do it to you. They'll be like, all right, everybody think he's supposed to win? Give it to the guy we don't know. Fuck it. That's what keeps everybody intrigued in the Grammys. Why? Why was supposed to win the Grammys? Yeah, you go. Who the fuck?

17:28Who won? Yo, who? Oh, no, DMX beat you. He did? Yeah. That was that? Yeah, we looked that shit up. It was DMX beat Y, right? Yeah, I should have won that. Still in the family. I still should have won that one. He had other shit that he should have gave. Obviously, when it's human people, people got feelings and they get all in their feelings and they do whatever they got to do politically. That's why with this, this podcast shit, I've been watching the numbers in the empirical data. We smoking everybody. I don't know none of that. I don't know where the data is at. I do. I don't know where to look at.

18:06That's him, y 'all. I do. when you talk about the amount of gas, how many people tell you how many, how many, you went to Atlanta to the ludicrous state. How many people, how many artists, how many artists told you they want to come? Every artist in the world. Let me tell you something. Analytically, with the numbers, we smoking everybody. Now, if we don't, I don't know that. Okay, let me explain. I hope so. I'm just preparing you now so when the end of the year comes and we know we beaten, everybody, we smoking everybody's boots and they fucking rob us and give it to Josh and Raleigh and Arthur Willingston, nigga.

18:49Like, we know what the fuck going on here. These niggas ain't nobody. Everywhere we walk, we walk through the airport, they're like Joe and Jada. We go anywhere, Joe and Jada, this, this, this. You know what I'm saying? Come at the end of the year, you watch what funny niggas they're going to come and say we lost to, but that's political. That's no different than the Grammys. They got a team working their shit. So we already know that's what's going on here. All right. So that's why I'm trying to say there's no difference in the Grammys. That's why we don't get too caught up in these awards because it is what it is.

19:21People be having their own people in play to make sure they win. Like, you know, I can't look at, I'm sorry, right? I can't look at a chart, a podcast, and never heard of these guys, and they're going to be higher than us. Know what I'm saying? Now, I know Call Me Daddy, the girl. I know Joe Rogan. I know Amy Schumer. I know Joe Button. I know, I mean, you know, I know those guys, but when you're going to come up here and put me, you know, Jonathan and William podcast very like yo I can't do that like I'm sorry I'm a few. This is a talk shit show so I'm gonna talk my shit cause I'm preparing the people just because they say they're number one that just means they got friends picking who's number one they're not really number one and now let me tell you how I judge it right if Joe and Jada has two time felon as a guest right he's coming out with an album he comes sit on the couch he's our guest we put him on here we talk interesting conversation see me and you we know different than Shaquille O 'Neal or Chuck they know we played the game they know we got the experience we legends they want to hear us talk to the clips and all put it like this the clips game anybody else who interviewed him is behind us in 300 ,000 views 400 ,000 this is all I'm saying the same guest is coming here that's going over there.

20:52They getting 150 ,000 views. We getting a half a million views. What? Where? Look at Jay! No, no, I want to know. What's a 50 cent spice ham sandwich or what's the shit? Tell me what the fuck. I'm not dumb. If we fucking interviewing the same person and we got them beat by 300 ,000 votes, how the fuck they number one? They not. What ballots are you looking at? What is he looking at? You better be prepared. It's alright. Jada don't care. Y 'all better get him a strong pack of that Zaza. That day, he look at that shit. You got to smoke something that shit I smoked when they come in the comments.

21:31No, I'm going to smoke that shit. Whatever you smoke, I'm smoking that day, nigga, because I'm telling you, we're going to be mad. We put in a lot of work. Every day, we got the illest. Look, tomorrow, look who's coming tomorrow. Every day, the illest dudes in the world, they flying in to be on this show in and out. this is the biggest show in hip hop right now this is controlling the culture and when I want to compare notes my notes is well why did John Butler come on our show and we got 800 ,000 views with him and you got 300 I want to know how you better than us like how are you better where's your numbers adding up like that and so I'm looking at all this if you got a guy if you got a guy who put out they also not two times.

22:19They also not moving like us, brother. They not moving like this. We shooting three. You know what I'm saying? So we did. Say somebody does by a miracle, get more views than us. By the time he drops that one episode, we already dropped three episodes with 300, 400, 200. This is a million views. We got these niggas packed up. I'm not. You can't dizzy me out. I know what's going on. So at the end of the year, when the awards come out and fucking Jonathan and William wins that we never heard of these niggas. They not moving nothing. No coaching, no nothing. You know the fix is in. I'm just trying to prepare you guys.

22:58For the fix? Oh no, the fix is in. There's no way. Me and you, we ain't political. We tell these people, excuse my language, we tell them suck our dick all the time. We not political.

23:13We not political. I got in trouble, man. I got a friend who's a big time jeweler. Right? And I went on Nori's Watch Show and I said, yo, the man told me, yo, once again, I love you and your family. You beautiful people. I got nothing but love and respect for you. Maybe you didn't realize you told me. He told me like, yo, I said, yo, I want the AP acrylic. This is a show. You got to come kiss ass a little. Like, you know, you got to come and kiss ass. I looked at him.

23:48You know, Nori says he calls them on their birthday. The watch guy, Nori, be like, hey, John, happy birthday, buddy. Nori goes there, drinks a coffee with him. He play that game. I can't play that game. I'm buying some shit for$350 ,000. Yo, sell me the shit. Like, I'm not kissing your ass and spending the$350 ,000, beloved. It's just not happening. So he really got a problem with me. All our friends that know us, they're like, yo, you broke his heart. I said, first of all, I ain't say his name, but I'm not breaking his heart. The man looked at me and told me, lyrically, with his own lips, you have to kiss, pause, you have to kiss ass to get the watch.

24:30I cannot do that, guys. Not me, not Fat Joe. I'm not doing that, bro. I'm not playing that game. But that's the kind of game you got to play when you want to be number one on a podcast. They want you to go up to whoever's holier than us and have dinner with them and start kissing their ass. And hey, we really, me and you are not going to do that. Definitely not. Other people are doing that. I watched somebody who really, really, really wanted a Grammy. Yo. What do you want? Everybody really wanted a Grammy. Not the same way, buddy. It's not the same way. Okay? If you really want the Grammy, you got to kiss a million babies.

25:12You got to show up to every guitar school. There's a whole process for you to win the Grammy. You don't just win the Grammy because Y was number one. You got to go out there and shake hands and kiss people and fly to Memphis to the guitar school to this. So much shit you got to do to win a Grammy. They ain't just giving you the Grammy by mistake. Hey, his shit was better than his. That's not happening. I'm trying to put you on to some shit if you don't know that by now. This whole shit is bullshit. So with that being said, do we think the Clips win any of the five awards? I think they win. How many of you?

25:51What's your prediction? Because you like the bet. Hard rock bets. Throw it up. They nominated for five. They should walk away with at least one or two. I believe so. And they deserve it. The album was incredible. That album wasn't like, they ain't sell they soul. They stuck to the clip sound. They got Pharrell. That's what's going to help. Pharrell know. That's going to help them a lot. Pharrell know how to play the game. That's why I'm happy.

26:22Because I'm happy. That motherfucker know what they do. I ain't get my jellyfish. I seen you with some jellyfish over there. You full of shit. I got them. You bought them? Yes. I can't lie, they sent me some jellyfish. Yeah, I know. Yo, you're mad, J. Shout out to my family over there. I didn't know family that showed, you know what I mean? Trying to show love. Yo, I ain't going to lie to you, the jellyfish is comfortable. I got two pairs, but they ain't supposed to. But they comfy, though, right? They feel good. They feel good. The jellyfish was right. You know, Sneak of the Year was the Brick by Brick.

27:01Nigel Sylvester. somebody stole a pair of no shit they stole your shit? one pair I got three pairs sitting there you know what I'm saying? now I'm gonna keep it a buck with you I got three pairs I got three pairs sitting there the one thing you can't do is match did you match it? now you can't right? it gotta be all black or something you can't just match it damn nothing matched the brick by brick. Like, I tried. Camo. Camo always go there. You know who I learned that from? Like, I learned that from years ago. Now everybody knows. Years ago it was AI. AI would always show up with some camo shit and some kicks.

27:46And I'd be like, damn it, always go. Like, camo's like a blank plate. It's like a green screen. It's like a green screen, my nigga. You rock that camo, you can rock whatever you want on the feet. The camo and whatever you want on the feet, it go. you know what I'm saying? Camo go with everything. I learned that from AI. AI was the first guy I used to see. He used to rock that camo and whatever. And I was like, damn, that's how you do it. You can get it off of the camo. You funny, man. That brick by brick. What was one of your favorite kicks this year? The black fives with the white laces. No, that was mean.

28:24That didn't make the top ten. That was mean. I wore those in Dubai when I got to go.

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33:44Shout out to Kevin Liles. You know, Kevin Liles is my neighbor, man. Today he blasted his music so fucking loud that we ran and sound like Michael Jackson. I FaceTimed him. I said, yo, Cap, what you playing next door? Because he's blasting that shit in his backyard. He said, oh, it's my new artist. And he sent the shit over. Hold on, let me tell you who his new artist is because I feel like he wanted me to mention this shit on the show. Because the motherfucker was blowing that shit with soap. That shit was like a park jam. Toxic, Long For You, a single by Justin Lee Schultz. This is mean. This song right here is beyond mean.

34:20But you know Kevin Lyle, he working, you know, he didn't wake up yesterday. Let's get to this guy. I don't really like this guy as a ball player. What's his name? Giddy from Chicago? Josh Giddy. I thought that was park talk like, yo, I'm going to break your ankles. I didn't know it was literally, I'm going to break your ankles. your man from Cleveland who's your man from Cleveland Hunter that came from Atlanta bro not only he crossed over completed the dunk they came and picked the guy up and he literally crossed him over so bad he broke his ankles like the dude have you ever seen that I never even seen that in the park You see that in the pickup game in the park?

35:12I see people get hurt off of getting something happening. Like what? I see the jack. You see what? The craziest shit of all time. I see somebody hit with a jab step that made him back all the way up to the other court down there. And the other nigga didn't even move. Did he hit it? Did he hit the shot after the move? It was a timeout. Because nobody. He went all the way down there off a jab step. Yeah. I was at the Ruck. I seen this guy. this guy, you know, when you at the Rucker, the kids who ain't in the NBA, they get their name for playing against the NBA players. If you bust their ass on the court, now you a legend out there, because these guys in the NBA watch, Jamal Tinsley.

35:53Bring that shit down so fast and he went like this, and money flew. Money was trying to be aggressive, checking him. Money flew like on the bleachers. Like, he had a seat at the bleachers. He crossed that nigga so crazy. Homeboy, flew into the bleacher seat like this. They just went up in there and laid it up. Like, he just stopped. Bang! Money check. Flew into the... But this guy, Giddy, Giddy's on the world's record right now from getting crossed over. He's worse than anybody ever in the history. I'm surprised they don't got him on roller skates, all type of shit. Skateboarding, wave. He need to be on waving.

36:37He needs to be waving like surfing. Or when Kenny and them put him up. Then they throw that nigga in the wheelchair with the IV and shit. What they did to this man, I never said, and I don't like this guy because he plays really good against the Knicks. Chicago got a mean team this year. This Giddy, he don't see the Knicks. He's killing us. So when they did that to him, I was so happy. I was like, yeah, I fucking hate this motherfucker. Anyway, that's the illness right there. What you thinking about this basketball season? You know we undefeated at home. We got to play good on the road, though.

37:16Shout out to Ronnie. He thought he, when I called him about that jacket you had on. Ronnie Kiff, which one the cream one? He told me they was hitting Mike Brinkley. They was hitting Mike Brinkley Jr. Don't do that. No, Brink's son worked for the Knicks. So they was hitting the sun. They was hitting the sun thinking it was Mike Brinkley. Yo, better give me an apology. Ronnie Giff is the Don Cagliani of fashion. They hit Brink Jr., man. Did he give you the jacket? Nothing. Nothing. Nah, I don't. Nothing. Nah. Nothing. Nah, nah, nah. I got nothing. Nothing. Nothing. They give nothing. If I don't have you.

37:58I didn't hit Brink Jr., though. You know, he got confused on the phone. Look, Ronnie's the same. I'm going to. He loves you. Ronnie's a stand-up guy. He loves you. That's my dog. That's my guy. I believe that I... What's that? That say less, huh? What's that? That say less, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I came in the building. Yeah. The Dominican girl had that say less. I said, they deliver. I don't know how we don't got a food sponsor by now. We should have been that. We supposed to have. Jimmy John. I don't know what's going on. They ain't sponsored me. Jimmy John. We got hot food sponsors.

38:36Say less They said Right or wrong Two times That's say less Huh No Man What's that Chipotle They ain't sponsoring us though We need to do a real deal They ain't sponsored us Say less With hot food What's going on with Thanksgiving You know everybody losing they snap EBT Welfare Life That's messed up No Super messed up Like that's Don't give out some food You gonna give out some turkeys trying to starve them into submission. Let me ask you a question. You throw it out all the time. You partner up with somebody? Like, you put up half, they put up half? You partner up with PCNY. I got to partner up with them again because the guys I normally partner up with, they not picking up.

39:19They like, yo, it's bad out here. They ain't got it. They ain't got it. Yo. We got to partner up. Yo. I got to call PCNY because, listen, usually what I do is if I put up$50 ,000, The food sponsor matches it with the 50 ,000, and we feed thousands of people. This year's crickets, they're not picking up the phone. Nobody. They've been doing it with me for 10, 12, 15 years, bro. They're not picking up the phone. Things to do. And I'm like, yo, but what's up? What happened? I did something wrong. They're like, yo, man, it's bad out here. They can't even give it out. You know what I'm saying? They're going to force me to.

39:59Are you giving it out? Let's get the, you know, let's go live. forces, man. We got, we doing it. We doing it big. EIG for the people, man. You gotta do it big. I want to shoot a episode when we give it out at the store. We have a couple of our friends come by, rappers, just talk shit, you know what I'm saying? Talk about how important Thanksgiving is because, you know, I remember my moms used to have to, you know, borrow sometimes from my family to feed us on Thanksgiving and right now it's harder times than ever. It's like fucked up. You know what I'm saying? It's really fucked up out here in the streets.

40:37I watched this girl on social media or a woman. She was like, if you got a beauty salon, if you got this, if you got that, if you got this kind of business and you been putting in all that work and you ain't making no money, don't think it's because of you. It just ain't no money in the streets. This is an all-time low. This is like a recession of depression. This is shit you read about in the book. I'm telling you, kids, we bless. There's some people really fucked up out there. Like, really, really fucked up. Caught in the fucking politics right now. 42 million people caught up in limbo. You know, you're trying to starve them into submission.

41:18I'm telling you. You know, we don't talk about politics here, but it's fucked up. We're going to feed the people regardless. but I'm just saying that it's so bad that the people that donate with us they ain't even picking up it's crazy they're not even picking up when one of them picked up they was just like yo it's fucked up out here like how we giving out to somebody motherfuckers ain't buying shit no turkeys I'm telling you I got guys sliced packed in turkey we might get them to spam turkey you ever ate the spam turkey you ever had a spurky spam turkey's good yo you never had the spam turkey I had it, spam turkey nah it's spam but it's turkey, it's not the swine no pork on my fork, no ham in my pan no I ain't talking I might be the only Puerto Rican without I went to the Italian deli you know Piccolo's in Jersey I go to Piccolo's right?

42:21shout out to Piccolo's No, piccolo's got the fucking... Smurky? It's the real Italian. It's like Arthur Avenue in the Bronx, but in Jersey. But in any case, I'm over there getting some Italian food. The lady's hustling me for Puerto Rican food. She's like, yo, where can I get the Benin at? I need the best Benin. Did you plug it? No, no. I told her I'm going to pick it up. I told her I'm going to pick up some Benin for you, and I'm going to bring it over here because she's always good to me. These are your guys right here. My brother's Eric and Jeff. You know what I mean? It's the real in the building.

42:54Yeah. You know what I mean? Two Jews, three BDs. Yeah, they in the building. You know what I mean? Now, I love these guys, but if they beat us as number one podcast, this is the shit I'm talking about. Our shit is a whole different lane. Yeah. You know what I mean? No, I'm talking. We doing Cisco and Eboo. We in another lane with our podcast. That's why it's even able to exist. because we out of the atmosphere with this shit we doing. We reviewing movies. How's it going, fellas? You got to come let us review one of the movies you was in. You want to sit down? Have a seat. You see how white people is?

43:33They help themselves to the cap. Nobody told these niggas to sit down. They're like, yo, can we sit down? Yes, maybe so. Give them the handheld mic. These motherfuckers come take over this shit. Well, everybody loves these guys. They have a hell of a reputation for being great guys. They've been putting in work. Yeah, but you guys, you've been doing it for a long time. Can you tell our audience who you are? Yeah. Like this? Yo, what up? It's Eric, a.k.a. The Bag of Chandler, a.k.a. Catch a Case. Yo, what up? It's Jeff, a.k.a. Shooter Boy in Blue, a.k.a. Papa Smurf.

44:13It's the real. Yo, Jada, you gave him this? Papa Smurf! they was crazy like that's how I met them when I met them they did one of them shits I was looking at them like who the fuck are these guys that's the mayor put me on to you mayor's our guy we asked him if he was going to be here today he was trying to move some things around you know he's always here he always comes out today he was killing turkeys he told you that shit killing turkeys and mayor's house for some reason every year around Thanksgiving he gets like 15 wild turkeys in the yard. He hunting? No, no. He be like, yo, I'm telling y 'all shit that niggas ain't got snap out here.

44:53Like, I'm ready to kill a turkey. Where the fuck they come from? You can't kill a turkey. You can't kill a turkey. Where they come from? Like, the wood. Every year they come. Mayor can do whatever he wants, right? But why they come down every year around the same time? Holiday. They come down for the holiday, man. They want sweet potato pop. Let me tell you something. I moved to Miami and I built me one of the most beautiful homes I ever built. It was in Plantation, Florida. And it was a horse. No, no. It was horses. They had horses. It was like mansions, but it was like form-like. And that night you hear animals fucking and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:39Baby, you from the Bronx? You used to hearing fucking ambulance and 40 bottles. They say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm scared to death, motherfucker. I said, like, who the fuck? Like, because, you know, Florida, I wouldn't put it past the motherfucker having a tiger in his backyard. It's like they enter these animals. That was a scary animal. And then the raccoons come. The raccoons is like three, four deep. It was like a cartoon, a movie. They come through. I start banging on the wind. They don't give a fuck. Raccoons are not scared of you. They open up the guard. they know how to open up the garbage, go through your shit in your face, and you can't do shit.

46:21Man, I was miserable out there. Like, every day I would try to go to the pool at night, like tiptoe to the pool, hoping no animal was out in that bitch. That's a different type of thing. But man, he keep the turkeys just pull up. Yeah. Joe, we had a podcast that we did from 2015 all the way to 2020 on a weekly basis, right? And then moving up to Christmas, we would do 12 episodes in 12 days. So we did a lot of content, right? It was called A Waste of Time with It's Thrill. And we had everyone on from Stevie Wonder to Cardi B. People would come over to our crib and sit down, right? Jeezy and Ross and the list went on and on.

46:57Number one on our list that we never got to sit down with, Joe Cracked the Don. Not for lack of trying. We hit up Angie. We hit up Mayer. We hit up Rich the Player. You know how they got this shit too viral? These motherfuckers ain't like me. I'm telling you, these motherfuckers ain't like me. I would have went on your shit and we'd have been on every newspaper in the world because I just, I would have been like, ain't nobody watching these white guys. Let me say something. Crazy astronomical shit. Motherfucker be like, oh my God. This shit, you hear this shit? That nigga talking over there? Like, yo, I would have went crazy.

47:31We live on the Upper West Side. We were told that was too far for you to go. 100%. And then one day, one day, we're walking on Broadway. There's a black truck and who pops out of the passenger seat to go to Paris Baguette, Joe Cracked the Don. And when we ran into you another time, we were like, yo, and you were on our block. And you were like... I ran a... I ran a... I bumped into you guys a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just never had the crib. I know. Just never for the interview. Never for the interview. Nah, I got mad love for them. I love what they do. And we, you. Listen, you guys are killing it up here.

48:08Right now, I'm being really cheap with the interviews. Like, right now, I'm going to keep it real with you. That's why we had to sneak on here. Yeah, I was staying away with, ask a question to Fat Joe that you might want to ask. You up here. We don't give a fuck. This show ain't about nothing, but ain't no professionality to this shit. We don't give a fuck. Joe, I just want to let you know that there, and I've told you this before, there was a moment when you were on with Nori, and those are some of the most epic conversations ever. Legendary. Legendary. Just the type of shit. Yo, we would tell Styles, were like, yo, we just want to pull up and sit down at dinner and hear Joe talk.

48:44Like, for real. You are the greatest storyteller in hip-hop. This platform is amazing, but when you were on with Nori, you told a story when you got locked up and you walked into that jail and everyone was fucking cheering for you and banging on that. Not cheering, it was intimidating. That shit was like a dragon with no fire. It was like the dragon for fucking all... What's the movie where the dragon kills everybody with the fire and shit from HBO? Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. You walk in, yo, J.D., No, man. Yeah, listen. First of all, of that, he got a suite. He went to a Fort Dix, a New York jail where everybody he knows is in there.

49:20New Jersey. They said New Jersey. I was supposed to go there and on Saturday he said, yo, you live in Miami, you going to the Miami jail. I was going to go to Fort Dix. They had fucking Ciroc bottles ready for me, double mattresses, floss a million that was in there, Ching Bing, all of them. the whole planet was waiting for me. The feds must have heard that. They said, oh, no, this guy is even going to be too much trouble or this is going to be out of control. Send him to Miami. So when I walk in there, it's 2 ,000 guys, Aryan Nation, Haitians, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, this. Ah! Ah!

50:04This shit sound like a fucking motorcycle when it's doing this shit. I'm like, yo, this shit, I had to walk in It's the only time in my life where I had to check myself because they was walking me to my cell where I was like, Joe, you're willing to know all these niggas. Don't fold. Don't fold. Because it felt like me against 2 ,000 guys because I didn't know one person. I didn't look at one person and was like, all right, I know them. I knew nobody. And they all in there and fucking walls are made out of metal. I went in my cell and then whoever the rappers was tried to run in the cell whoever the 30 rappers was who've been waiting their whole life to get in the game came in I was like yo yo yo gotta get out the cell can't come in the shit this ain't no rapper shit you know I tell you what's crazy is in that same jail where I just told you I'm intimidated they have 2 ,000 guys and they got four tables so there's TV there's the Spanish sports English give a fuck if you speak Spanish and now everybody looking at the Spanish chicks up on that shit that shit got more black dudes looking at that shit than Spanish like ta-da Salvador yeah that nigga's like oh my gosh she's my favorite Rosalita like they don't give a fuck right but they got four tables and each table got like the moral to the story is I asked this guy I said yo man who sits there he looks at me cause look yo I keep trying to tell you, a lot of guys, pussy, most men are pussy.

51:39I'm telling you the truth. I get up in there and he looks at me like he was scared for me asking him. He didn't even want to be in a conspiracy. I said, yo, who sits in those tables? He's like, aka the toughest niggas in the world got them tables. There's a guy sitting there. I go down. I tell the guy, I'm only there 10 minutes. I tell the guy, yo, get the fuck up. looking at me, he say, you know what you mean? Get up. This is our table. I said, like I said, get the fuck up. You got to get busy, something, because I need this table. The whole jail was watching. There's 2 ,000 inmates watching.

52:20The guy foaled. He'd get up. He'd walk away. He ain't want no smoke. He just got up. That's it. That's the end of his table. But I also lost 1 ,000 of the inmates was mad at me because this ain't cuddly Fat Joe the Rapper. It's like, oh, he's on bullshit. Fat Joe took the table. He's on some shit. But, you know, only had four months and I was willing to get in the fight, get in the box for four months. You know, you would have heard Fat Joe got beat up by 100 guys. It would have been a story. Like, yo, 100 guys beat him up. They dragged him. He fought 100. I wouldn't have let nobody down. That's the thing with jail.

52:58When you go to jail and you're somebody who... Too many people have been saying that you're a real guy for their whole life and all that. You can't let them down when you're in there. You can't have no stories of you being played pussy. No compromising stories. You got to go. It's not even I'm by myself. I'm with every guy that ever said what's up to me or ever was down with me or ever said Fat Joe's a real one. I got to go in there and protect that. That's how I had to give it up. Like anybody who saw me in there, they had to be like, the other day I'm in the party. Money match birthday, my man Tafia.

53:36He could tell you want to bring Tafia on in. He was the only guy locked up with me. He from Miami. I seen him in the club the other day. I told everybody at the table, if y 'all don't believe what I say, go ask that guy. That guy was locked up with me, Tafia. He'll tell you. You know what I'm saying? And it's just, it is what it is. Tafia, that's my brother from down in Miami. But Tafia was locked up with me. He the one guy to be in the scene that he could tell you what it is or not. You know, I had a mentor. So I had my brother, Opie Megatron, who had 20 years in jail. I had Pistol Pete with another 20 years in jail.

54:10It was about three of them. And I'd be like, what to do, what not to do, right? And they was like, yo, you can't let nobody in your cell. That's a violation, right? Then in the cell, the tough guy sleeps in the bottom. The other guy sleeps on the top. That's another conversation I had. As soon as I came in the cell, but this guy was a good guy. This guy, he was a Muslim dude. and I walked in the cell and I was like, yo, you got to go to the top. He said, what? I said, you have to sleep on the top. This isn't one minute. Like, yo, kids, they motherfuckers ain't even get a minute to breathe. I'm like, yo, you got to go up top.

54:46He was like, what? I said, brother, you have to go up there. I sleep down here. I've been here 18 months. This is my cell. Bro, I don't care what you think, what you heard, what you think. You got to go up there. I'm sleeping here. And then the guy, you know, once he went outside, they must have told him who I was because he came back. I didn't know who you is. Oh, my God. Sorry. This is, I said, nah, nah, nah. It's all good. But that was it. You know, they gave me a rule book shit not to do. They told me never play basketball. Because that's where motherfuckers foul you on purpose. They're going for the ball.

55:26Back. Imagine the dude do that to you once or twice. He's got to turn into a fight. So they was like, yo, don't even play basketball. I said, what you mean? I might want to play basketball. They was like, that's where the exercise of your Euro. Yeah, that's where the motherfucker, I couldn't do the Euro. You know, I coached in there. 40 and over and I won the chip. 40 and over and they bounced the ball like this. Yo, James, like the bad news bear. They was the most horrible niggas. Let me tell you something. I worked in the kitchen. There was a dude, me and him was super cool. He joined that 40 and over basketball league.

55:58they might have lost 100 to 1. These guys was bouncing the ball like the bad news bear. The next Saturday, they went out there, they lost 100 to 1. It was embarrassing. The next Saturday, I walked out. Six in the morning, I went in the court. I said, you here. You here. You here. When this guy come here, you move to the thing, you go like this. See how easy it is? Yo. Yo, listen. I swear to God, I went up in there and I coached them and they wind up winning the chip. It turned into like the Rucker. Every Saturday was crazy. But now, by the second, third week, I'm coaching them. Nice niggas is like, yo, crack, let me be on the team.

56:37I mean, it was dunking in the head. Like, the nice dudes came and it was like, yo, crack, put me on the team. That's when that shit got crazy. It got crazy lit. One fucking thought they was at the Rucker in Miami, but I was coaching, but I helped them. God, they won the chip. Winners sleep on the bottom, right? The winners sleep on the bottom. Yeah. Poor.

57:01then yeah welcome to the show can i tell you how we all like linked up in the first place let us know all right so you know this guy took over our show i got a respect god no no no your kids they got legendary right here yeah we had this weekly podcast that we would do everyone would come and we would tell this story from like the beginning of your life to where we are today everyone everyone sat down did the same shit so the guys knew us so well that when they signed to Roc Nation, they were going to put out their EP. They wanted to come promote it on our platform. So the three of them are going to come up to our apartment, sit down, tell their story as the locks.

57:38Cool. Except for the fact that before they showed up, Sheik was totally sober. Styles took an edible and, you know, he's a professional. And then Kiss, right to sleep on the table while we're recording. Yo, Kiss. Occasionally. Sometimes he come in here so hot. Y 'all can smell that shit. I know when they give him the good shit or they give him the maintained shit. There's a weed that's maintained. Maintained, he high, he chillin', he in the moment. Then there's some times that boy come up here, fry. I said, yo, they gave this nigga the pure of the day. This nigga got some shit. So that day, out.

58:15But he would wake up every once in a while and he would start singing new edition songs or he would just chime in with other things that didn't have anything to do with anything. with no addition song guys. Yo, so meanwhile, Looch and P are yelling about movies and they're looking around and they're looking at the bookshelves and they're like, oh, you fuck with the Big Lebowski. He wakes up, he's like, you got to talk about Color Purple. We're like, what is going on? I said, whatever this energy is, you guys need to have your own podcast. Just like we do one, except you talk about movies and Stiles goes, no, we're going to do one and we're going to call it Two Jews and Three Black Dudes Refusing Movies.

58:49And so here we are eight years later doing it on a weekly basis, talking about Home Alone, talking about trading places, talking about sinners, talking about weapons. I met a young man. Rambo. Rambo. I met a young man. He's autistic. I met him at a sneaker store. I want to say where. I'm sorry, guys. I want to say where because I copped some good sneakers there. But the kid, he know every movie what year, what actor. I was like, Warriors. Hey, that's Le 'Veon Johnson. That's that. this, this, this, that. 1977, this, this, this, and that. Yo, what about The Wanderers? Hey, that's Jonathan Adler.

59:28This, this, this. He knew every, he's like the rain man. We need him on the show. Yeah, yeah. Yo, it's actually no fun by the time, by the fourth or fifth one, you're like, this guy knows everything. I don't know where, it was somewhere, I don't know where, I don't want to say where, it was a sneaker store, they showed me nothing but love. Damn, I don't know where. I want to say like Kansas City or something. and the man comment, he know everything.

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1:00:37Hi, it's Colin Coward from the Colin Coward Podcast. All right, you know what deserves more attention? The assists. Everybody talks about the goal, a big moment that gets replayed on the highlight reels. But too often we overlook all the contributions and collabs that happen along the way. That's true in soccer and honestly true in life. Halion is shining a light on the assists. An official partner of U.S. soccer, they got a whole lineup of brands ready to deliver for you. So here they are. Sensodyne, dentist recommended defense of your sensitive teeth. Centrum, fueling your day with science-backed nutrients.

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1:02:33Massive sci-fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth. I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, OK, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great.

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1:03:25Mondami, right? We all New Yorkers, right? Yep. What you think about Mondami? Love him. We met him when we were with the locks to the Wu-Tang show. So he came to my dress room, yeah. Donald Trump came to your shit too, but yeah. Don't worry about it. Donald Trump was in Diddy's dressing room. Yo.

1:03:49Yo. Yo. Let me tell you something. Yo. Kiss. Yo. Yo. Yo. Kiss definitely always. No. He was in Diddy's dressing room. He really was. That's where I ever first seen him at. Before any elections. Any of that. Yo. I used to see Donald Trump walking down the street in New York. No bullshit. See him at Nick games, boxing matches, walking down the street. I used to see him in New York City, Manhattan. Oh, shit, Donald Trump. He just walking like a regular dude. That's crazy. But Mondami, you like him. Love him. Love him. We need change. We need hope. We need to do something different. I'm tired of being in this place where everyone's getting priced out.

1:04:31Why are there no creatives, young creatives in New York anymore? Because they're all moving to more affordable cities. You can't stay here. you can't create here. It's a longer, you know, a bigger, deeper thing than just, you know, what the news tells you. You know, a guy like me who make a lot of money, I should be on the other side, right? I've never seen people hate a guy who says he wants to give less rent, free bus rides, this, they, well, I hate him! I want to pay more! Fuck this spontaneity! It's only mansions where I live. It's only the rich people go to the restaurants I go to. I'm sitting here.

1:05:07Fuck Mondami. Them shits is flying from all over. This guy, you believe he wants lower rent? He wants free buses? Fuck this guy. He's a commie. I'm like, yo, what happened? People want to pay more. They want to actually. This shit is crazy to me. I'm like, yo, I listen. I go, yo, I ain't in politics, but this is fucked out. Yo, there's a lot of people who aspire to have money like you. A lot of people who aspire to live on the top floor. I don't know, but like... That kind of niggas got way more money than me. Totally, no, no, for sure. But there are people who aspire for that. But there's also so many people who aren't doing that.

1:05:42You know, so many people are struggling to make it through. And like, why shouldn't they have a chance? Why shouldn't they like be allowed to like enjoy the city? Why do they got to be priced out and move to like another state and not be a part of this? Like, what is New York if not like a chance for young creatives to do their thing and like make it here, you know? And you make it here, you make it anywhere. but it's just the scene fucked up. Everything seems unfair. It feels like the rich get richer there's no middle class and they're just real poor people. It's really crazy. They say he's the number one realtor for Florida.

1:06:19Everybody's going down to Florida. Well, good luck. That shit expensive. My wife is looking at Palm Beach. The crackhead house is$89 million. Good luck. No Mar-a-Lago for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dead ass. I'm a realtor father. They say my father. Because, you know, people are like, well, they did it when. If everyone's moving, like, let us know. Let us know your address and we'll, you know. I ain't going to lie to you. COVID happened. A lot of people moved down to Florida. And so I'm going to, like, say Carbone. I'm saying my neighbors from New York. Everybody I know from New York is in the restaurant every night.

1:06:58That did happen. And they've been talking about that since I was a kid. but they would never do it. Yo, we going to Florida, fuck that. But it really happened. Where everybody from New York was in every restaurant, everything, they moved down there. So it felt like the Knicks game, every night in every upscale restaurant in fucking Miami, right? But now, the other half who stood in New York, they're starting to say, I'm going to Boca Raton, I'm going to Palm Beach, I'm going to Florida. like they literally are saying that you know what I'm saying everywhere I'm going the other night I was in a restaurant shout out to my people Pietro's you know Pietro's on the east side they got them sauteed clams that motherfucking shrimp salad god damn it that shit what that shit popping the salad feel like a meal shrimp salad is so good but everybody in that restaurant you know you hearing the fuck my dummies to I'm going to Florida to, yo, in Boca Raton, like, they got a real problem with this.

1:08:04You know what else I love? He's young. Like, I'm tired of, like, older politicians. Ones who are getting, like, way up there deciding what everybody else is. I don't know. That's a shaky one. Why's that? He gotta watch his ass. He gotta watch his food. Yo. Yeah, you gotta be careful. You think he gotta food? He need a food tester? He need everything. You know, back in the day, the kings had had somebody eat the food and then be like, alright. Even in the Indian movies, back in the day, they be like, yo, taste the food. Like, my Dami got a food taster. Yeah, you should get one. I'm here for change.

1:08:36I'm here for young people making some decisions, doing something different. You know, I got so discouraged with politics that I've just been out the scene. My Dami's probably somebody I really would have knew about, really would have been into. I've just been trying to, like, yo, stay focused on your shit. You know, my thing is staying out the way. Eat his own bottle, be sure. just on Bottle of Patron. I ain't hear that in a minute. You been really opinionative on this show, Yigna. That's the first time you said he's just on Bottle of Patron. You know what else? You ain't fucking lying. So we go up to the studio up in Yonkers.

1:09:11We tape every week. We talk about these movies. We never bring up politics. We never bring up like, you know. That's good. Serious worldly issues. It is a chance to escape. We just talk about movies. We do. Is Jada Kiss Italian? What's Chic Mad About? Karate Man with Styles P. We just have a lot of fun up there. And so it's something different that gets to flood your timeline instead of like the realities of the world, you know? How old are you, brother? How old do you think I am? I'm asking. You're looking like a fucking young guy, but I mean, how old are you? He might be old. Hold on, hold on.

1:09:38Yeah, yeah, yeah. 42. He might be a tweener. Yeah, yeah. This guy might be a tweener, right? This nigga looking like a nerd over here. How old are you? I'm 41. He's 41 with a full set of ears. With a full set of ears. No. Well, let me ask you this. He got a full, Yo, that's a big deal. Like a set of knots. You know, you always want something to dunk. I want hair. Well, let me ask you this. Would you rather have hair or be able to dunk? I'd rather have hair. You know, I'd change my whole name. If I got hair, my name would be Procedo. Alejandro. I'd be coming up in here, Alejandro, with a fucking part with the fucking.

1:10:18I have more fucking spray than fucking John Travolta. Saturday Night Fever. My shit be glossy. Yeah. Yo, by the way. So long. Yo, yo. I be up here like, no, I'm telling you, I be really obnoxious. Yo. I have hairstylists and shit right now. Like, right now, I be like, cut for a sec. If I come in, I be like, yo. Slace this shit out. I give him the finger waves. I come up here with the finger waves. Yo. That'll buckle me. You with finger waves and put all down, dog. I'll do it. The other day, I'm in traffic on the FDR. I looked inside this girl. I had the finger waves. I said, man, now that's real dedication.

1:10:56I fucking dedicate. That's hours under the fucking beauty salon. Yo, shout out to Pekos. He never misses a chance to put up a throwback picture of him with hair up on Instagram. Yo, bro. How do you look with hair? I had hair. I looked like the Brady Bunch. So you with it? Yo, yo. No, I looked like the Brady Bunch. Back in the day when I was a kid, I had real fucking hair. Nobody believed me until I busted them bitches out. It was like, God damn, this guy was the Brady Bunch. Well, what was the last straw? The truth is, happy birthday, Big Pun. It's Big Pun's birthday today. Big Pun's birthday, my boy.

1:11:33The stunner. All my friends call me Stunner. And so with Big Pun, he had hair, right? So I always had a Caesar since I was like 14. The thing was for me, when I was a kid, the gangsters had a bald head. When I first cut my hair bald, my father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat my ass because he knew the cut automatically meant I'm down with a gang, I'm tough, something. There was no way around it. When I had hair like a Brady Bunch and then I had the baldy, my father was outside enough to know this means he wants to be a piece of shit in life. So my father chased me around the block four times trying to fuck me up.

1:12:13So I always had it like that and then I start telling pun, yo, you know I got hair. Like, I still thought I did. I said, I got hair like the Brady Bunch, my nigga. Like, you think you got hair? I got hair. If I grow this shit, forget it. My shit be like yours. He was like, your shit ain't growing like shit. I said, I promise. He said, you know what? I'm going to get braids for you. I'm going to do braids. Once we get the braids like AI, shit like that. Man, I tried to grow that shit. That shit was like... Nothing. That shit was the thinnest hair in the world. I never forget. We went to a Knick game.

1:12:50I had like some little rubber bands on the little hair that was growing. That nigga Punk killed me on that. He's like, yo, Nick, you ain't got no hair. This is bullshit. And that's when I realized I had no hair. And so I said, man, take it off. There's no more Brady Bunch. You know what I'm saying for me? But I wish I had hair. I'm not going to lie. That's one of the things I wish I had. Huh? Yeah, go to Turkey. Go to Turkey? Yeah. I don't know if Turkey is. That's what Cheetah did. I've had no hair. I've had no hair for so long. I wish I went to Turkey. I have no hair for so long. It'll feel weird to even get here, right?

1:13:27If I went to Turkey. We'll get the curve. What if you got like a little thing in the back? Carlos Boozer? Yeah. Listen, guys, I ain't doing asshole shit. I ain't doing asshole shit. I'm telling you that if I went to Turkey and my shit grew black, full flooded, it would be the return of a seizure. Alejandro. My shit be Alejandro. It's in the building. Who? Alejandro Rojas. You remember? Fat Joe. What's up with this? Giants coach fired. They ain't never win a game, huh? You like that move, huh? Hell yeah. It is just out of here. All right, let me ask you a question, right? Being that you said that at the Jets game, on the field was Max B.

1:14:15Yeah. Welcome home. Welcome home. Bigger Val. Have you ever in your life seen a dude do 18 years in jail, come out, go to the field of the Jets, and Louis Vuitton, down to the fanny pack? No, let's keep it a buck. He did shit. He came out of jail. They was throwing ice on his neck. Louis Vuitton down. Like, yo, come on, man. We can't. And the thing is, I don't know if he was in a time capsule. Gained a little weight in 18 years. But he looked like Biggavow. Now, I never seen nobody look like they preserved him. He might have been in the Michael Jackson in there, the fucking machine. Because he came out just, it was 18 years, 16.

1:15:03When you see him and you see how he's moving, he went to the after party. last night, he looked like Max B. Like the guy, last time I saw him 16 years ago, he was in a club in Manhattan, looking the same way. And he dead nice. I don't think he fell off. I think Bigger Bell gonna come with all them flows and all that. I'm really watching that. Oh, the Max B wave, because he's the wave guard. I'm trying to explain it to my daughter, explain it to my family. I say, yo, this guy's the wave. What do you mean? He's the wave. He's the wave guard. Remember then they'll be on DVDs like, I'm gorgeous. I'm fly.

1:15:42Look at my head. It's Max B. Now Max B goes. He comes out of jail. French is there. He says, we're going to Morocco. Let's get to the business. He in the studio same day. That's Max B. I mean, how do you go from... Alright, now my thing is, Lori, please Close your ears with this one. I ain't do 18 years in jail. I ain't do 18 years in jail, but what I do know is that all my friends in jail tell them stories how the police just fucked with them, ruled them, told them they wasn't shit. They had a cop in Bremi's cell for seven years straight talking about you ain't shit, ain't nobody waiting for you.

1:16:25This is what they do. They try to make you feel less of whatever. suppose that cop in Max B's life who was fucking with her who thought he wouldn't come home to nothing and his Jets thing he tuned into the game and Max B was on that court not much of a cock smuggler that nigga felt like that fucking correction officer he felt like the biggest dick you ever seen in your life a fucking smoking asshole piece of shit I remember Remy they took Remy listen, they took Remy to the last drop Remy was on parole, she was on TV they knew she was rich all the way up was number one in the country they wasn't giving up permission to do shows they was fucking with Remy, she ended up with an ankle bracelet they watching on TV black love, this this that number one in the country, this and they was fucking with Remy to the point I never forget man she had to go so they could cut her shit off to take her off parole I came up pulled up I was in the drop top Rolls Royce damn I had that bitch you know the drop top Rolls Royce with the black and the red I had it for that summer and I pull up and when I tell you if they had 20 parole officers in the building all 20 of them was outside she wasn't even their client or not.

1:17:58They was out there. We pull the fuck up. Cut the shit off, man. Fuck all you niggas. Suck my dick. Fuck all you niggas out here. They all lined up. I'm violating these niggas so crazy. Fuck y 'all. Y 'all know what y 'all did this. They came to the last drop. Ask Remy. When we bring Remy on the show, they stood in front of that building to the last drop, my nigga. If it was 11.59, they could fuck with her? they fucked with her to 11.59. She went up in there, the whole precinct, the whole, every probation officer that had nothing to do with her was outside, like it was their day. Came out, we cursed these niggas out, we jumped in the drive top, we pulled off.

1:18:40Fuck out of you. I keep it to myself, but I got a problem with authority and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? Cops want to talk to you like you ain't shit. You less of a man. Nigga, you ain't never going to be this rich as me, man. Don't play yourself, man. Like, be clear about this. Just give me the ticket. I want the ticket. I want the ticket. You ain't got to scold me and scream at me in front of my wife, in front of my family, and talk to me like, yo, bro, you're not on this level. And you know it, buddy. You got to stop. Give me the ticket, buddy. Give me the ticket. Yo, this kid, let me tell you something.

1:19:13I ended with this. I think I said this before. It's a young Puerto Rican kid. He can't be older than 23, 24. for. I go through the Midtown Tunnel, the Queenside, and for some reason, the Easy Pass don't work. I pull over. He comes up. It's like three of them. Boom, license registration. I give him my license. My license is Florida. I lived in Florida for 23 years. He goes, oh, hell no. Supposed to be New York. This, that. I don't know what this nigga was talking about, right? So he over there, about 10 minutes discussing it with them. I guess they telling him, yo, it's fat, Joe. Let him go. You know, So he come back.

1:19:53I said, my nigga, the ticket? Well, let me go. I ain't got no real rap for you. I'm not going back and forth with you. And you know your father had a poster of me on his wall. Violate me right now. I said, all right, Mr. Joe, let me go. I'm not playing that shit with these niggas. With these niggas? You got to be fucking kidding me. This ain't that? That ain't this. Cracking kiss, goddammit.

1:20:21Y 'all good. Thank God. Y 'all good.

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1:21:31Hi, it's Colin Coward from the Colin Coward podcast. All right. You know what deserves more attention? The assists. Everybody talks about the goal. A big moment that gets replayed on the highlight reels. But too often we overlook all the contributions and collabs that happen along the way. That's true in soccer and honestly true in life. Halion is shining a light on the assists. An official partner of U.S. soccer. They got a whole lineup of brands ready to deliver for you. So here they are. Sensodyne, dentist recommended defense of your sensitive teeth. Centrum, fueling your day with science-backed nutrients.

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From the publisher

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are back and they're reacting to Clipse scoring five Grammy nominations, no hip hop appearing in Billboard's Top 40 for the first time in decades after "Luther" by Kendrick Lamar and SZA finally dropped out, Antoine Fuqua (director of 'Training Day' with Denzel Washington) directing a Michael Jackson biopic, and Josh Giddey of the Chicago Bulls getting his ankles broken by DeAndre Hunter of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Joe and Jada are also joined in the back half of the pod by Eric and Jeff from ItsTheReal and the '2J3BD' podcast with Jada, Styles P, and Sheek Louch. Eric and Jeff talk about Fat Joe being the interview they've always wanted, Zohran Mamdani winning the New York City mayoral election, and Max B finally being freed from jail and appearing on the field at a New York Jets game.

5:00 - No hip hop in the Billboard Top 40 for the first time in 35 years

7:45 - Michael Jackson biopic

15:15 - Joe & Jada's problems with the Grammys

26:15 - Sneakers of the year

34:00 - Josh Giddey getting his ankles broken

38:30 - Joe and Jada giving back for Thanksgiving

42:30 - Eric & Jeff of ItsTheReal crash the pod

48:15 - More of Joe's legendary jail stories

56:45 - How ItsTheReal linked with The Lox

1:03:30 - Zohran Mamdani winning mayoral election

1:14:30 - Brian Daboll fired

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