In short
Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and Lola Brooke discuss how hip-hop has changed over the last 20 years, focusing on what makes a “hit,” the business realities behind it, and how artists adapt while staying true to their roots (especially Brooklyn).
Guest backgrounds
- Fat Joe: veteran New York rapper (30+ years), raised by his mother; talks about growing up on welfare/Section 8 and building a career through persistence.
- Jadakiss: longtime rap veteran (30 years referenced), emphasizes having OG guidance to avoid trouble and staying adaptable in the industry.
- Lola Brooke: Brooklyn female rapper from Brownsville/East New York area; describes her rise through live work and Team 80, and being compared to Foxy Brown and Kim.
Key claims
- A hit doesn’t come with time to enjoy it; labels/industry push nonstop and you don’t get to “lean back” unless you’re already top-tier.
- You must adapt; “one hit” is a miracle, but consistency is rare and respected.
- Section 8 is framed as a trap that limits income and competition for ownership.
- OGs/teams help keep artists out of jail and career missteps.
Notable examples
- “Don’t Play With It” (Lola’s breakthrough moment).
- “Lean Back” (Fat Joe’s story about label not pushing it; later independence).
- Bryson Tiller collaboration as validation because he “doesn’t work with anybody.”
- Brooklyn geography/street landmarks and Coney Island anecdotes.
- Gun-policy “solution” suggestion: move to states where legal before kids face jail.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction of Lola Brooke
2:06 to 5:50
Joe and Jada introduce Lola Brooke, discussing her rise in the music industry.
“but I caught a bag, so I'm going to continue to do it for that as well.”
Discussion on Success and Hard Work
5:50 to 11:40
The guests converse about the importance of hard work and the music business.
“Let me tell y 'all, they was popping mad.”
Reflections on Section 8 and Welfare
11:40 to 14:00
The hosts share personal experiences related to Section 8 and welfare systems.
“I'm like, oh, I can leave Section 8 now.”
Socioeconomic Control in the Projects
14:00 to 15:00
Explore systemic issues affecting families in urban environments.
“what they do is they control you from competing for the jobs to own shit.”
Personal Stories of Struggle
15:00 to 16:00
Personal anecdotes reflecting on family dynamics in low-income housing.
“They demasculate the home and the projects.”
The Music Journey Begins
16:00 to 17:00
Discussing the beginnings of a music career and influence from peers.
“Going out, working records at the clubs.”
Representation in Female Hip-Hop
17:00 to 18:00
Discussing the impact of female rappers from Brooklyn on contemporary artists.
“I tried to rig it and be like, want some Kardashians or one of them Savannahs or one of them come in your shit?”
Comparing Influences: Foxy vs. Kim
18:00 to 19:00
Analyzing the influence of Foxy Brown and Lil' Kim on modern rap.
“it's it's only pressure if you allow it to be like if this is something that you love to do, it shouldn't be a hard thing to get done.”
Brooklyn's Unique Culture
19:00 to 20:00
A deep dive into Brooklyn's diverse culture and community ties.
“And she came up in there with the ba-ba disc.”
Navigating Brooklyn's Neighborhoods
20:00 to 21:00
Personal experiences and stories about getting lost in Brooklyn's vastness.
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Historical Ties and Personal Memories
21:00 to 22:00
Reminiscing about significant places and figures from Brooklyn's history.
Food and Community in Brooklyn
22:00 to 23:00
Exploring the connection between food culture and community in Brooklyn.
“You go Crown Heist, then you go give me another name in there.”
Reflections on Gun Culture and Parenting
34:06 to 37:38
Discussion on the influence of gun culture on youth and parenting strategies.
“We don't get enough time to tell you and everybody else, whether you young, you the OG.”
The Importance of Independence in Music
37:38 to 42:00
Exploration of independence in the music industry and personal experiences.
“And let them get all the guns they want is his solution.”
The Challenge of Consistent Hits in Hip Hop
42:00 to 44:32
Explore the pressures artists face in producing consistent hit songs.
“And they didn't push it and they was acting like, nah, got you.”
Recognizing a Hit: Personal Stories from Artists
44:32 to 48:21
Artists share memorable experiences of knowing when they had a hit song.
“I don't even know he killing me like that.”
The Evolution of Music Production and Its Impact
48:21 to 54:26
Discover how music production has changed and its implications for artists.
“She said, I knew our life had changed forever.”
Influences and Inspirations in Hip Hop
56:15 to 1:04:48
Discussion on the artists that inspired the guests and their impact on hip hop.
“Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.”
Lola's Career Vision
1:04:48 to 1:06:54
Lola Brooke shares her aspirations for her career in the entertainment industry.
“I said, oh, we got a new leader at a new school.”
Readiness for Success
1:06:54 to 1:10:01
Exploration of the importance of being ready for opportunities in life and career.
“You know, good man, you could quote as a guy named Fat Joe.”
Reflections on the XXL Freshman Class
1:10:01 to 1:12:02
The artists discuss the significance of being featured on the XXL Freshman cover and overcoming self-doubt.
“You know, they do that shit with the phones.”
Struggles and Inspirations in Hip Hop
1:12:03 to 1:12:46
Fat Joe shares insights into his journey in the hip hop industry and how seeing others succeed has motivated him.
“I got Beamers and Benzes, Cuban Chains, Iced Out.”
Musical Insights and Collaborations
1:12:47 to 1:13:24
The hosts share their thoughts on music creation and the influence of collaboration in the industry.
“I went to that mall and got some sleepers.”
Transcript
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2:05I didn't start doing music for a bag, but I caught a bag, so I'm going to continue to do it for that as well. But nah, I don't be in the studio like, oh, I got to make a hit. I'll be in the studio like, oh, I got to get this shit off. Because if I don't, I'm going crazy.
2:32What up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack the Don. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. What the mandami said, Jada to the moi? He said every name. He said every... He said, Jason, that's Castudio, that's Savio, Rolando, Torres. That name named you a hundred names and shit. This nigga's crazy. Every show legendary, every show iconic. You know what I mean? At this point, he just crushed his shit. We just fried. But today's guests think of hardworking. You know, I never really seen a female Napoleon. You know what I mean? Meaning she packs a big punch, pause if you need one if not let it go big energy she brings you know a big presence you can tell she loves her mom she come from a good she come from some good raising of a good mother represents Brooklyn to the fullest Brooklyn she's connected you know she knocked one out the park maybe one or two I gotta look back at the billboards but She works very hard, ladies and gentlemen, giving up for Lola, bro.
3:55Oh, I like that intro. That was fire. I like that. You like that intro? I like that intro. No doubt, baby. Shout out to Mom Dukes. You know, this is what I say. Hold on before we even. Did you have another name? Big Gator. Before you was Lola, before it was, was it? When you did the show, you opened up for me somewhere one time. We had a show in Syracuse. No, it was. You was Lola, bro. Yeah. That was Albany. Albany. That's how long she's been going. She's been putting in work way back then. I like to say he was very humble. And when I seen you finally hit one out the park, you know, I was proud of you.
4:33I appreciate that. A lot of people don't put that. You was in the trenches. You was doing shows. You was getting your name out there early and not just waiting for Plymouth Rock to land on you. You was out there making your, you know what I mean, making your chops. So that's a good, that salute to you, to the success. Go ahead, Crack. No, I'm just saying, the way you're moving is the way I wish all the young guy rappers would move. You got Sav, you got OGs. Shout out to Team 80. Shout out to Team 80. You know what I mean, my brother? But it's all Team what? Team 80. Team 80. My thing is, when you got the right people, been around the business for a while, they know how to get you out of trouble.
5:14you know a lot of these young dudes and they ain't got like no no real OGs positive people I just see where they fuck up at so I say that all the time with the young guys coming up we need an OG to just tell you yo don't be impulsive don't move like that you're gonna get yourself jammed up cause we getting tired of the next rapper coming home from jail right this shit out of control right now right one go in one come out one go in one come out we you know this shit is played out. But I love your team and how you move. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. I love it here. Let me tell y 'all, they was popping mad.
5:56They was popping mad shit. Before the camera... Oh, my gum came out? Before the cameras came out, they off and on the camera, they the same. They the same off and off. Off and on the camera, stay the same. I'm jealous of her. What the... My gum? Maybe two... I knew I was supposed to have it. I was trying to hide it. Two B, T awards, it goes, or whatever. When it was, we had to, we caught a rat-eyed home together. Oh, yes. Dog, we had to, we both in first class. You know what I mean? We got the, it wasn't the seats that turned to a bed, I don't think. when she folded her body she was the most comfortable person in the dog she would have thought she was on the California I walked by I said damn I want to get comfortable this leg over this is bad right here that's just like a California I'm like damn I want to get comfortable he did that shit to me one time but it wasn't bad He just, you a big dog male.
7:12Yeah, it was. You were still comfortable. Whatever I had, it didn't look how comfortable you was. I was curled up. You went on a JetBlue meant to L.A. Mm-hmm. The man before the plane took off, this guy went to sleep. Like, he's describing you? Mm-hmm. When the shit landed, he got up. I was pissed. I'm looking at you. I just can't fucking sleep like a baby on this shit. Got the whole - I can't even sleep on the fucking plane like that. I said, motherfucker. Knocked up. Rich player, too, before the shit move, he like... You know, if I played that game taking pictures of while you sleeping, I would have...
7:49Oh, you didn't do it like that. Dictionaries on rich player. Before the shit move, he like that. That's how I'll be. I want somebody to be scared with me on the plane. You know what I'm saying? Motherfucker don't want to be scared with me. He like, yo, every man for himself. you figure it out get it when you sleep before the flight take off you can't recline in that you're back you old mess up you gotta wait till you get you know what's crazy when you private you can do jumping jacks while the shit take cross jumping jacks backflip them niggas don't give a fuck watch on private they be like do you want to put your seatbelt on or not like so all that shit they be running like seat up sir they'll wake you up be like seat up sir make sure you on air all that shit is bullshit nah nah nah it's a fact all that shit is bullshit when you on the private safety measures that shit that gotta happen my man Raul rest in peace was not afraid to fly when that shit was landing the more turbulent he'd be in the front with the pilots like yeah look how he's I'd be like yo you know at that time you're supposed to be super strapped up.
9:06Like, it's bullshit. All them rules and all that shit is bullshit, man. It's bullshit to you. He don't like the rules. He never did. Planes is safe, man. Don't play with it. Did you think that was a... Did you know that was out of the park or you had to work it? We always got to work every single, you know what I mean? You got to do a bunch of shit you don't want to do and everything's sad and I'm telling you to do and radio stations and DJs and all that. But, When it got, when you know it was one of them ones, how did that feel for you? I ain't going to front. Just recently, I just started realizing like I had a hit.
9:44I didn't feel it. I've been working for so long. Like, I've been raised by my mom. She a hardworking Black woman. All I know is to work hard and I don't reward myself because it's like, it's things that you're supposed to do. So when Don't Play With It Pop, I was just excited because, you know, as an artist, when you feeling neglected, And you're not getting the attention that you feel like you're supposed to get. When you finally get it, it go over your head. But you know the whack part about this business is when you get one, they're working you so much that you can't even go to your normal spot that you would go to and look at everybody fucking with your shit.
10:23You don't even get that. You know what I'm saying? You got to lean back. Number one, ball fuckers like, yo, Flex played it 400 times. I'm in fucking Denver, Colorado performing somewhere. Like, you do not get to enjoy, unless you one of them dudes. That just stated. And you don't give a fuck about a dollar. You don't care about nothing. You could sit there and be like, all right, my shit popping. But when you get a hit, it's always like, look, it ain't never going to, look, you're hard, hard working. That's one thing we got to say about you. But let me tell you, it never changed. No, no. You got to adapt.
10:57Even in the game, I've been in the game 30 years. It still don't change. You got to adapt. to enjoy your fruits of labor. That shit don't work like that. It's like, yo, what's the next? Where we got to go? What we got to do? What we got to conquer? What we got to do? You know, this shit don't never... Especially where, I don't know your finances. You know, you grew up with your moms and your pops. No, just my moms. Same thing at home. So, you know, you trying to... I'm just trying to pay bills on time. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm generational. I never had nobody before me make money like me.
11:32You could probably look my family tree a hundred years. Everybody been on welfare for a hundred years. So I'm trying to make it. Yeah, I just, I dropped my Section 8 when I popped. I'm like, oh, I can leave Section 8 now. My mom's passed down the Section 8. I still got mine. You're a liar. I wish I could've kept mine. I was looking for somebody to hold it down. You don't hear me? You don't hear how much I tell you about my Section 8? You know you can't say that line. I don't play with my shit. He make you look crazy when he said it. I don't play with my shit. When he don't say he's so easy. He don't disrespect Section 8, man.
12:04You know how hard it is to get Section 8 right now? Don't even play with my shit. I got cousins in Section 8. They know how to play that game. That shit is not easy. I don't play about my... I feel the same way about my hard drives. You gotta go shelter for like a month or something. Yeah, listen. You hear that? That's how my mom's... I feel the same way about my hard drives as my Section 8, man. As you should. Don't play with my Section 8. I was holding it down for a minute, but I ain't have nobody to pass it down to. I'm the only child too. I'm the only child too so I was trying to pass it down.
12:34I was trying to pass it down. Fuck the section. They wouldn't let me. Listen to me. Yeah. Hold up. Hold up. Fuck the section. I'm trying to explain something to you. You think if Jay-Z wanted to stay on section 8 he would ever be a billionaire and ever own a building like this? That whole shit is a gimmick. I'm going for billionaire status with section 8. Nigga, I don't got nothing to do with what he did. I'm trying. I dig it. I'm calling you full of shit, man. I found the first flag, man. All my Section 8 people in the comments, get them. Sad. Let me tell you. No. I stand strong by Section 8.
13:13No. I'm Section 8. You ain't let me finish my statement. If you need it, your single parent moms or whatever type of struggle you going through, I'm not knocking you. I grew up on welfare, section eight, free cheese, free lunch, everything. Nobody was fucking bummier than me. I say it all the time. But what I'm trying to tell you is that that system is a trap. And it's really no disrespect, but it's really not a flex when you go to a building and you be like, yo, the Washington's been here for 40 years. And this man, we got to get about that shit. That shit is meant to be temporary because they put you to a limit.
13:54if you on Section 8 or you on that, you can't make enough money to do what you want to do. So basically, what they do is they control you from competing for the jobs to own shit. They do control you. No, that's why my mom was like heavy on like, don't, this is, this is for you to move forward to get you to be gay. That's it. You at C right now. She's smart. If you need Section 8, God bless. Because once they see the income, Everything you name. Nobody been on welfare more than me. When they see it coming, it go up and up and down. Before you in the cell, sorry, it's over. You know why your moms ain't have a man in the house?
14:35Because she couldn't. Because when they help you, they say they don't want you to have a man. All right. I'm telling you the truth. Wait. My moms ain't want no nigga in the crib. Not because of Section 8. You're going to tell her what this is. This is not about her mom. Why you break my moms up, man? When my moms watch this, son. I apologize. Your moms know what I'm talking about. They demasculate the home and the projects. They don't want the woman to have a man in the projects. They don't want a man and a woman in the projects. They don't want it. Man, I'm trying to tell you the truth. It's a gimmick.
15:20If you got a husband, they don't want you in the projects. If you're doing better, if you got a raise and salary, they don't want you in the projects. If you got a salary, you shouldn't be in the projects. Think about it. I'm just the one breaking. I'm breaking it. I'm breaking through. How you got hooked up with Team 80? It was like 2016. It's this artist. He from Browseville. His name's Lizzie. D.O.D. He asked me to do a feature. I came through, met everybody just to do a feature, just working. And they called a liking to me and I called a liking to them. I just was around watching them do music videos.
16:03I've never done a music video before. Going out, working records at the clubs. Get mansions to do content and stuff like that. And I fell in love with it. Like I always was in love with music. but to be around people that I felt like was in love with the same thing, it made me want to lock in with them. You know, how you feel about coming from such a strong lineage in New York City of female rappers who really started the, you know, I mean, we had rappers from all over, but, you know, that Kim, that Foxy, they both from Brooklyn. I'm sure you get compared to them all. I'm going to tell you when I saw her shit was lit, Savannah and her little daughter was doing the Grag.
16:48I said, oh, yeah, that shit hit it, chief. I love Savannah. Yeah, that was fine. Cross the Savannah. Listen, let me tell you, I tried to rig it one time. I reached out to Kim Kardashian. I asked her, does she want to say yesterday's price, not today? I tried to rig the Bible. I tried to rig it and be like, want some Kardashians or one of them Savannahs or one of them come in your shit? It's over, man. The next day is over. Your man Khaled did that. They don't want us to win. Justin Bieber went on that jet. That's what happened, Sam. The next day, Justin Bieber went on that jet. He said, they don't want us on a plane.
17:24They don't want us to eat caviar and shit. That shit was over. You get one of them to do that? You wake up like, holy shit, this shit out of here. but um coming back from uh Foxy Kim did they inspire you do you know you have a lot of weight on your shoulders tapping into that saw you at first it felt like pressure but I'm from Brooklyn like it's in me not on me walking to the bodega you know what I'm saying the fucking pressure like like coming from where I come from it's it's only pressure if you allow it to be like if this is something that you love to do, it shouldn't be a hard thing to get done.
18:10But I am happy that... Which one of the two inspired you more? Foxy or Kim? I would say both. I would say both because I felt like Foxy has... Her tone is just so... It's so powerful and Kim's presence is powerful. And they always compare me to both. So I'd be like, I guess I'm like half and half. Like, I'm a... I'm a lemonade and iced tea. I'm a half and half. No doubt. I'm telling you, they both love... Alola Palmer. They both love Joe Crack. I remember one time I must did an interview where I might have said something that might have got Foxy Brown mad at me. I don't even know what I say. I talk so much shit you can forget about it.
18:52She hit me in the DM and said, yo, Crack. I knew what yo, Crack, man. I was like... I know I fucked up. I will never do it again, sis. I was on her first... record her first L.O. Cool J's I Shot You. And she came up in there with the ba-ba disc. I was like, yo, we ain't never see somebody with that type of swag. And she was with Ball Deep on there. Keith Murray was the hottest at the time. By the way, very underrated Keith Murray. Keith Murray, his flows, all that shit. He had it at one time, right? She was with us. You know, L.L. who was like the king at that time, the Don. And she came on that shit.
19:39And we knew the minute we saw her on that set doing all that shit, we was like, oh, no. She about to pop up. Yeah, yeah. It's a Brooklyn thing. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, it's a Brooklyn. I'm trying to tell you. It's really a Brooklyn thing. You know, Brooklyn too big for me. Yeah, Brooklyn too big. It's like you could drive in Brooklyn for hours. Like, right? You ever notice the shit don't run out? like you go yo Brooklyn don't run out I'm not disrespecting Brooklyn it is big as fuck if you're not from Brooklyn you are very lost now I remember I used to go with my mans to buy weed out there they had one particular spot that was popping somewhere I'd be like I could never find that shit so you got East New York's all the way on the other side Joe it's nothing bigger than traveling from Brooklyn to the Bronx I get that the Bronx is much smaller than Brooklyn like that alone is bigger than Brooklyn yo that Brooklyn shit man I don't be knowing where I'm at you know all the time when the plane land in the JFK I look out the window at Brooklyn I'll be like yo I really need to know cause in the Bronx Harlem I know every single block I haven't discovered every single block in Brooklyn this shit just keep going and then it turned and then you in Flatbush the next way you in Flatbush the next way you this then you got Jews right next to the black dudes across the street this shit different from the whole world Brooklyn really is Spike Lee be calling that shit like another planet like another it is it is you on this side of the street the next side the next gangbangers is the Hasidic Jews they out there it is deep it truly is Joe it is right it is that shit big as fuck man and so coming from Brooklyn what part of Brooklyn exactly you from Bestar oh you from Bestar that's deep that's deep no as soon as you get in Brooklyn oh you mean like where Biggie's from I used to go see Biggie there that's right there that's right there that's right over the that's right when you go to Junior's Cheese Camp yeah it's like 10 minutes yeah I used to go see Biggie out there man, Best Side is good, but where you go?
22:01Where you go? You go Crown Heist, then you go give me another name in there. Brownsville? No, Cody Island is the end of Earth. Brownsville, East New York. Yo, I was at Coney Island the other day and that diner, we went to JFK too early and I was like, yo, let's go to the diner. We went to that Coney Island diner over there. I know Coney Island. No, Coney Island is Coney Island. Like, they got their own, like, Coney Island is Coney Island. Like, when I used to go to Cooley Island, I didn't even know I was still in Brooklyn growing up. Like, I thought I was somewhere else. Yo, Cooley Island is far, right?
22:38Shout out five mics and everybody out there. I used to go with Stephon Marbury. If you don't know who that is, he was king of New York at one time. You don't know Steph? I don't know. He went to Lincoln, right? Yeah. You know. He was one of the greatest. You know shit. I know. I go with Stephon Marbury. Because, you know, we her OGs. I don't give a fuck what you think. She from a whole different generation. Brooklyn, man. Brooklyn, no Brooklyn. But I studied. I studied. I mean. Yeah, but I used to go see Steph out there, and he had, like, 10 family members in one project building. Them niggas was on every floor.
23:17Let's see Miss May. Let's see this. Like, they had the whole building, bro. Sebastian Telfair. That's why I got mad when he tried to play against us. The black guy, we fed that boy four chicken wings french fries. Many a time out there in Coney Island, man. That shit. I tell people all the time. If I go dead broke, I'm good with four chicken wings, french fries, hot sauce, and some ketchup. You know about mambo sauce? Huh? You know about mambo sauce? Mambo sauce? Yeah, you don't know about that? No, what's that? You got to come to the sky and get mambo sauce on your french fries. Catch up with mambo sauce.
23:55So what is it like? It sounds like mayonnaise and ketchup. No, no, no, no. I don't rock with mayonnaise. Me and mayonnaise, we don't get along. Kum Kav? You ever been to Kum Kav? What the fuck? Don't play with me, man. No. That's a Chinese restaurant. That's a Kum Kav. Oh, it's a famous Chinese restaurant. You eat anything. I've never heard that shit before. I don't know what Kum Kav is. I think you're trying to chill me out. I think home bought over to Kum Kav. Don't ever play. You been to Kum Kav? Yes. I didn't eat it, but I've been there. Yeah, it's a good Chinese spot. Like, it's all those slices.
24:32Is it for green? But it's like a Chinese spot. For green, a different part of Brooklyn. That's Killer Ben and all up over there on that side. Hey, play trivia. Brooklyn trivia. I'm lost. He really is, though. Throw an egg out there. He's going to say demographic, too. I am lost in Brooklyn. It is very... It don't sound like you be lost. Pause. That shit deep. That shit won't stop. Wow. He just said back to back. Yo, listen. You go from the fucking, what you call that shit? You go from Barclays? That's that main street. What, Atlantic Avenue? Back to back. He said Barclays. You go from the Barclays?
25:12You go from the Barclays? That one street about an hour long. My mother stayed the same way. That's so funny. You go to Long Island on that shit, baby. You pass four white castles on that shit. Yo, four white castles. Four white castles on that shit. What a hell of a landmarks you know about. Oh, man. Four White Castle. You go to the Barclays, you take that one street down? Dr. Baxter, Four White Castle. Four White Castle. That's how I know we're getting to the end. By the time you hit the fourth White Castle? I went to these projects. They had a... I can't think. They had a fucking basketball game, the championship, and these projects in Brooklyn.
25:51Chris Gotti sent me in there. Thank God we had the yollas. This shit was like, yo, it was like the Coliseum. You got to park in the middle of the project. You got to walk in there. There ain't no touching the surface, the soil, and then leaving. Chris, you got to tell me what them projects was. And they were playing the chip. They had hookah. They were selling hookah. What's the shit they call the fucking? Who's that, Gersh? Nutcrackers. Nutcrackers. Who's that, Gersh? Gersh. they had the girls from Starlet selling hookahs and now this shit out of control they got a popcorn standing there but it really felt like how we getting out this bitch if it just pop off yeah you was in East New York that was East New York so when you start from Fort Greene going over there it's deep that's yeah that's a drop that's what I'm trying to say that's a drop they jam me up you know me they jam me up I taught I taught my wife I never do the same shit twice.
26:54So when I go to my house every night, I'll go to the right, to the left, go a little further, come down. I never tell how you left. I did that in the projects. I come out through the basement one day to go to school. I come out through the front. I go out through the rent building. I switch my shit up every day. You ain't timing me like that. It don't go like that, right? So in there, niggas gonna have to get to shooting because there ain't no normal way to get out of them Gersh projects. I'm telling you. Are you jammed up? The parking lot is in the middle of the projects. If they close that shit up, good luck.
27:31You got to do what you got to do to get the fuck out of them projects. That's a fact of mundo. Oh, man.
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29:02Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1-88-ADMIT-IT. In Indiana, if someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9-WITH-IT. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLING. That's in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
29:42But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
30:17Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
30:56Why is everyone obsessed with romance right now? Like everyone. Your coworker who quote unquote doesn't read is reading romance. Your mom, BookTok, the entire internet. I'm Sanjana Basker. I'm Tyler McCall. And this is Radio 831, a romance podcast. The books, the tropes, the adaptations, the drama, the discourse. And what all of it says about how we actually love, yearn, and obsess. We're going to Wuthering Heights. Which, for the record, is not a romance novel. And yet it has haunted the romance genre for 200 years. We're getting into dark romance, age gaps. certain Russian hockey players and sentient objects in love, which is a thing.
31:44That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
31:59Hey everyone, it's Ryder Strong and Will Friedle from Pod Meets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast. were two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and were gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of Survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season, from the final attempts at gameplay, to the desperate pleas of finalists, to a bunch of ha-hoo, ha-ha-hoo, ha-hoo.
32:43Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune in to Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Pod Meets Twirled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos Podcast, and for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers, and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car, and then my car got stolen.
33:21I was shoplifting. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic. And making it through hardship. To be present is a learned skill, and it's hard to be present. We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease-free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Judd Brewer about anxiety and John Hirshfield about obsessive-compulsive disorder and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it.
34:02Listen to Inner Cosmos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
34:13Man, I saw you in Paris. Remember we did Paris together? The Jordan. The Jordan joint. I seen you out there in Paris. I was proud of you. Thank you. And you know what's crazy? We don't get enough time to tell you and everybody else, whether you young, you the OG. You know, in this game, it's a competitive game, but we happy for everybody. And everybody's just, we got like an alma mater. Rest in peace. Fat Man Scoop outside. Like, we took a beating. You know, I hung out with him. Yo, Kiss, what's the matter, man? Bouncing around. Because it's a family tree. His brother sitting in my face. You think I can't?
34:56That's all I could think about. It's my brother, Fat Man Scoop. I hung out with him. We ate breakfast, right? We had a show in Europe. We ate breakfast together. That guy was so happy. He had a gun collection, right? He kept bragging to me. Yo, the AR-12 comes with us. I'm like, yo. What? Yo. No, legal. Legal. but he was such a positive dude my whole life but he was talking to me about guns last time I was with him he's like yo I can't get back I can't wait to get back I'm gonna go buy this new shit with a scope on it this I'm like yo fat man school like you buying guns at a mile a minute but he loved it right you know what a beautiful soul bro clap you nigga huh he was gonna clap so well you know that's what I say at the end of the show Jada wants to kill me I say yo listen if you have a son if you have a son that love guns and you live in New York where it's two years no matter what I don't give a fuck what kind of money you got Lil Wayne sat two years for the gun I don't care how much money you got here Johnny Cochran nobody can get you out if your son loves guns take him to Atlanta take him to Connecticut take him to Pennsylvania fucking let them buy the guns they're gonna kill them you making it you saying the solution there if your son is gundalero take them somewhere the wild wild west what I'm saying is kids that love guns they get caught with three guns before they blink in New York City and they doing real time I mean this might sound crazy right I had a fetish for them but I don't know something clicked in me that it wasn't cool It's like, your kids going to get it.
36:49That's your side. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm seeing eye to eye with them. So I'm like. No, I'm just talking about jail. When you raise your, no, I'm saying though, when you raise your kids right after a while, they get it. They get it. It'll click. It'd be so random too. You're just, a lot of things click for me, like growing up in Brooklyn. I was around the wrong crowd, but sometimes I go home and I be like, yo, that shit was so whack. Like, why, why did I, that was, that was pointless. It was corny. because I knew at home my moms made it safe. I felt safe there. So it was like, why am I going outside doing all this extra shit when I got a hardworking mom that makes sure the homes feel like home?
37:29Can't take that for granted. It'll click. Send your son, send your kids to the army, to the gun state. And let them get all the guns they want is his solution. Okay, listen to America. I don't know. Listen to America. Here my logic. My logic is I got a lot of friends that their kids like guns. You in America, in certain states, have the right to bear arms. Before your kid is a three-time felon, by the time I'm 19 because he loves guns, man, you went to jail for the hammer. Before you go do that, move to a state where it's legal and let them do it the right way. Otherwise, I know what I'm talking about, guys.
38:16play if you want and you'll be going to see your son upstate in no time that should fix me I don't know Joe I don't know I think you just pray just pray just pray you into prayer and God big time I pray last night I pray everywhere with. Let me tell you, I can sell my prayers on a plane. Did you know I'm scared to fly? I see myself while I'm praying in a white suit talking to millions of... God, please. The dog next to me doesn't want to die right now, God. Please. Give these pilots the knowledge. Oh, my God. Oh, yo. If they are... Nah, I'm certified pussy. If they take my prayers and my mind on the plane, Oh, they like, oh, this guy's pussy.
39:17He can never act tough in his life. This guy, like, I pray too hard. The record with Bryson Tiller. Okay, Sav. Young Yola. Did that do what you wanted it to do? Or? No, no, that record was a super smash. Did the record label throw the proper bag behind that? It went flat. That's my shit. Young Yola. Oh, man, that's great. I mean, it went gold. Don't play with it with platinum. But I got it. Yeah, I got it flat. After this, it might go platinum. It's going to go platinum. After this, it's going to go platinum. See, I watch. We bring it back. Not only was the record a smash, but I don't know if you know, we discovered Bryson Tiller.
40:00And I happen to know the man just don't work with anybody. No, he don't. He don't care. He don't care about your bag. He don't care who you are. That's a fact. And when that man jumped on the track with you, to me, being a hip-hop historian, it was a super validation because he don't fuck with nobody. No matter who. He don't even post a picture on IG. So that shit is so fire. The record is fire. Young Yola. And then he rock with you. You know, that get the other, you know, you might catch a taller, the creator next time. Somebody who don't really rock with people is like, oh, she's somebody we need to take seriously.
40:42Work your heart, yep. So I'm glad you, because I got some records I did that I thought, you know, the reason why I truly went independent was I dropped the record with Young Jeezy. Yeah, what was it? Ha ha. So damn, son, you killing him. To me, that was a lean back. Like, I thought that. I know something crazy to that beat. You rock to that? Ha ha. Let me tell you something. We shot the video in Harlem. We did the movie. Jeezy. I was like, this shit, out of here. Like, the phone calls I was getting, fake phone calls from the industry. You back. Yo, it's a lean back. I was hyped. And the record label, I know for a fact, they didn't push that shit.
41:24And that's when I said, you know what? You guys ain't doing this to me no more. I'm going independent, putting my own bag up. I'm not coming over here begging somebody to push my shit or whatever the case may be. That song changed my life because that's one song to this day. If I'm sitting in the club with you and they play it, it bothers me. When I hear it, I'm like, this shit was supposed to be out of here. This shit was a missile. This shit, you see the Savannah? When that song came out the next day, LeBron was doing the little dance to the shit too. Like, I was like, oh no, this, we got one.
42:01And they didn't push it and they was acting like, nah, got you. We do it. You know, that's, that forced me to go independent. it, but you're correct. No matter what you do, if you put out a hit, they want the second Lean Back. I put out Lean Back, I think the next song I put out was Make It Rain. The shit went full platinum, and they were still like, this ain't Lean Back. They was dead ass. Oh no, you gotta do it again, then again, then again, then again, then again, and that's why when I look at certain artists that put it out the park consistently, that's when I be like, man, because you You know, one hit is a miracle.
42:41One hit is a miracle. I always say, they talk about one hit wonders. I always say, yo, motherfucker lived his dream. One hit with my man, gold over my plaques. Gold in the bomb watch. Turn to that, James. Gold in our thoughts. Gold in our thoughts. I did it. Man, I seen him on the red carpet. I seen him take pictures with everybody he ever loved. I seen him live a life. so when somebody hit it out the park one time it's a dream come true but to consistently you know you hit it you know in our era it's a Nelly it's a 50 cent it's job rule it's these guys kept coming and coming and coming with hits and hits and hits and hits and you have to respect them when you're in the business of making hits because what when do you know you got a hit do you know when you got a hit well now I do you can feel it people treat you different No, but I mean in the studio, you create a song.
43:41That I don't know. Music for me is a lifestyle. I'm making music because it's making me feel good. I do music because it speaks for me. Like, I do music because it's therapeutic. I didn't start doing music for a bag, but I caught a bag, so I'm going to continue to do it for that as well. But, nah, I don't be in the studio like, yo, I got to make a hit. I be in the studio like, yo, I got to get this shit off. Because if I don't, I'm going crazy. I like that. You like that with songs, right? You knew you, what song you knew, Jada, you had a hit? Here's God for the shit. Thank you, Lola. Thank you.
44:20God blesseth da savior. This guy here, he's a sniper. He be killing me every show. When I go home, I watch the replay. I'm like, yo, this nigga sniping me. I'm on the couch. I don't even know he killing me like that. what song you had that you knew is a hit before it came out maybe in the studio you recorded why why it was so incredible brother that was a different type of hit man but it was perfect it was sick that was God talking like you know what I'm saying it was so different it was necessary to this day it's necessary Anthony Hamilton what made you think of him for the hook shout out to my man rest in peace Ice Pick we just thought we you know once we got it once we got the song shout out to Havoc too for doing the beat but once we got it they'd know that we already knew we knew we wanted to get somebody we were big fans we all big fans of Anthony Hamilton so it was just the beat was perfect for him and once we told him the concept and he heard the verses I had the verses on before the hook.
45:34So once he heard it, he had the hook and did that shit fast. He made the hook? Yeah. So he was like, why? Oh, why? Key Swat came up here. Key Swat came up here and said, what's that shit called? Southern, there's a name for that kind of music. Southern, the whole genre I never heard. He made that. He might have invented that. Southern something. Southern Soul? Southern Soul. He said, it ain't R &B, it ain't this. It got its own name. Huh? Listen, when I'm in the house, my phone ring. It's like four in the morning. I got the house phone. I'm laying in the back. Yo, Joe. come to the ear factory I'm like who's this how you got my house number he was like reserve Gotti come to the ear factories four in the morning I said got something for you I only met him one time before that we both booked the same studio and we talked shit till like seven in the morning no work got done we were just telling stories and I realized I said yo this nigga just like me like he got the stories like that Irv Gotti he got the stories.
46:59So we going back to back stories. He must have liked me. Pun dies. Right? Rest in peace. Ja Rule comes to the funeral. I never even met Ja Rule before that. He came to the funeral. And I was like, he's a good man. But anyway, like a month after Pun dies, he calls me out of nowhere and you want to talk about pressure. They were like, you know, Pun was so much better than me. They was like, oh, this nigga threw. Like, Pun is the king. Joe is a bum now. Joe is over for him. He's like, I mean, literally, in my face, they were saying this shit, right? So, when I went in, they just pressed play. And the Hit Factory, like, I ain't gonna lie to you.
47:39I don't give a fuck what you think. I never spent money like that on a studio. Like, my studios was always underground, small studios. I never spent the $5 ,000 a night Hit Factory. Like, I wouldn't do that. That's one thing I wouldn't spend on. They had different speakers. That shit came on. and he was like, what's love? I knew immediately. I said, oh, shit. This shit. Out of here. Like, this shit is gone. And so it was crazy. After Irv died, I had asked my wife because she was dead with me. And I asked her, I said, yo, what? I never asked her because, you know, I'm always caring about what I think.
48:20I said, what did you think that night when we drove home? She said, I knew our life had changed forever. when she heard Once Love one time she was like, she said, I always loved Derv Gotti because of that. She was like I knew it. Driving back to the Bronx, she was like oh no, this shit. This shit over it's about to be a new day. But you know, when you know you got that hit. See, back then it was so different. Like the substance was so raw. Now it's like there's no such thing as you know what's a hit. It'd be like the random stuff being a hit now. So it's hard. It's like we're in a weird space with music.
48:57Yeah, you are. But if you keep it consistent, nothing changes. You know, I love what you said. Without you knowing, you answered that question so beautiful where you was like, yo, it ain't about a hit. I got to get this off. That's really, that's Aretha Franklin. That's all the greats that we could call. They just, Anthony Hamilton, he just sung from the soul, this and that, and then people related to it. Right, right. You know what I mean? So that's really where music is at. You feel like you talking your shit, and people could relate. That's powerful right there. That never changes. Yeah, hits come from great energy.
49:39It's a room full of energy. A hit is guaranteed going to be made for sure. You know what's so funny? I went to a show one time and it was just crowded. Who was it? I think Gumbo threw some shit in Jersey. and here I'm going up the stairs, and there's a bunch of big guys, and there's a girl flying in the air past me going down the stairs. That's how I knew how little you was. It was so crowded there. Y 'all was carrying her out the motherfucker. I'm like, yo, this shit great. I'm looking up, oh, shit, that little Lola Brooks. It be so much people, I be needing help. They carry you out of that shit.
50:16That's when it comes in handy. They can just lift you up and slide you over the... Yeah, like, take me grand. What's your process like in the studio? What you need? What's your, what's essentials for? All right, so boom. I need some H2O. I need some water. Facts. I need honey and tea. Facts. I ain't gonna front need the tequila. You know what I'm saying? You know, tequila. I need the... Is he a hundred? You know what I'm saying? I need, um, hookah. Okay. A good engineer. I don't got to keep tapping him on his shoulder not doing that get it right and good good vibes of course some some grubs you know good grubs you know what's crazy is we was just talking off the camera like you said it'd be some good shit Sam he was selling me the Tupac one time there's a video where he telling the engineer yo my job is to record I leave you mix that shit I don't know what to do with that that's you you get that shit you can't even stay there for the mixing He lay his verses and tell him to make sure it's good.
51:24That was ill. Yo, that was... I got to hear it. I got to hear this shit. Man, that boy Scott Storch sent me back, Lean Back. Like, I got a demo. I'm demo-itis. I know a hit. I'm a little bit... And I noticed you're not the first artist. More artists come here saying they didn't know what was a hit. I always knew what was a hit. So when I left Lean Back, I knew that shit was number one. He sent back the mix and had like a cowbell on that shit going, I was like, yo, my bitch, who the fuck told you to throw a bell on that bitch? Take that shit crack. We can just take it out. You're getting too excited.
51:59I'm like, fuck out of here. I'm like, I'm definitely one of those, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. We hear it, the shit. You know, your man, Kendrick Lamar, they said that what he did, they not like us. They didn't even mix that shit. He said, he was like, yo, get that shit out now. 30 minutes later, he was like, yo, I want that shit out. Like, they didn't even professionally mix. They not like us. It was just like, yo, do a random little two track. It's out. You know? And so, you know me, I'm into mixes. I fucked up one time, man. I had Jay-Z on this record we had on Family Ties, Projects. Jay-Z spit the burst.
52:39And we looking for the mixer of the year. All this bullshit, Cool and Dre. Jay-Z, Joshua got to get back from Potties. This, this, that. they was playing and the man they called back about three four days later was like yo you can't drop that verse now because he was like getting at like certain people at the time they was like yo can't put that out this I was like nigga I fucking told you to get that shit the front mask the flex in 20 minutes now we sitting on a Jay-Z verse we can never use in our life you know sometimes Sometimes you got to go. You got to go. You got to run and go. That's how I recorded my last project I did.
53:26I bet like I have a scratch off and I just I just go. So whatever I say, I'm looking at the engineer like keep that shit because you might not get that moment. We just fucking heard that about Tupac. You used to say the same shit. Be like, yo, I ain't racing none. He go over there, rock. Yeah, you be talking on types of shit. Put an intro. That's crazy. Not us. Not even me. I probably would be like that, but they forced me. These guys want perfection. These guys, these cool and dre. I'm probably the only old school rapper that they make do it 100 times to the verse. It's picture perfect. Like, they abused me in that studio.
54:06Nah, not like that, yo. This to this day, they still, like, coach me like, yo, Joe. Like, huh. You know, because me, you know, if I had a dream come true, I would go to Nebraska some shit and make my own album and it'd be some shit about God some about flowers some about killing some about they want Fat Joe to gangster at all times they be like fuck that gangster shit gangster shit nah Joe the niggas wanna hear you spit and I be like every time I try to be a nice guy on the record they don't allow us
54:48Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nate? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
55:23This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
56:10are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is everyone obsessed with romance right now? Like everyone. Your coworker who quote unquote doesn't read is reading romance. Your mom, BookTok, the entire internet. I'm Sanjana Basker. I'm Tyler McCall. And this is Radio 831, a romance podcast. The books, the tropes, the adaptations, the drama, the discourse. And what all of it says about how we actually love, yearn, and obsess. We're going to Wuthering Heights. Which, for the record, is not a romance novel.
56:54And yet it has haunted the romance genre for 200 years. We're getting into dark romance, age gaps, certain Russian hockey players. and sentient objects in love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
57:22Hey everyone, it's Ryder Strong and Will Friedle from Pod Meets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, Traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of Survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you, I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists, to a bunch of ha-hoo, ha-ha-hoo, ha-hoo.
58:06Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Pod Meets Twirled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast. and for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers, and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car and then my car got stolen.
58:43I was shoplifting, I was having panic attacks, I was agoraphobic. And making it through hardship. To be present is a learned skill and it's hard to be present. We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease-free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Judd Brewer about anxiety and John Hirschfeld about obsessive-compulsive disorder and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it.
59:25Listen to Inner Cosmos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
59:36The song, Pain, we use MJ. She was excited about that, by the way. I love Mary. I was excited. I was excited. She said she loved you. Like, by the way, behind the scenes. Yeah, I love her so much. She was like, yo, I cleared this. I'm like, all right, man. Yeah, Lola Brooks, I like her. It's that. What made you use that sample and the title, Pain? When you think of Mary J, Pain is the first word that comes to my mind. Like, I done see my mom get through her day listening to Mary J. You know what I'm saying? I done see my mom stressed out. She put on Mary J and she could clean a whole house. that's what she was in my household my mom's what I knew Mary J was on I said oh I gotta get up and clean my room or she gonna be wiling on me so with that record I feel like she like no more pain and I'm like this the new generation no more pain I learned from you too like my mom's made sure that it's no more pain we standing on that as black women I'm standing on that I'm not going through it like I see my mom go through it I'm straight so I was excited that she cleared it because it meant something to me.
1:00:51Who was rocking? Because there's a generational gap. And I can tell you, my mother, my aunts, they was this one song. I don't know if you know, you way too young, but they were singing, I will survive. Oh, and I was a kid. I didn't know what they was really singing. And they would sing this shit. Wait, how it goes? I will survive. Dinosaur. Oh, no, no, no. Walk out the door. Who's that? Huh? Gloria Gaynor. Is it turned around now? Because you're not welcome, man. I be in front of the building. We live in the fifth floor of the projects. They be singing that shit. And you hear it outside. Like, you know, that's that cleaning the house.
1:01:32And Mary, was that for you, right? Who are some artists that were very inspirational to you in your age group? Who was rocking when you was like, yo, I think I want to be a rap? Like, who was, like, on fire? Lil Wayne, Mick Mell, 50 Cent. It was a time where I would have Lil Wayne. I would be on LimeWire, and it would be nothing but Lil Wayne on my iPad. My iPod. I just met a little young brother from New Orleans. What his name? Leazy or something? A rapper. He was up there. Leazy. The man, I was telling him that Lil Wayne taught me how to work fast. so I come from I come from a way back generation where rappers would do an album I don't give a fuck if it was number one and they would wait four years to drop that was it they would wait sit home for two years and then alright it's four years let's drop the next one we didn't have that work ethic but Lil Wayne when he moved to Miami after Katrina and I used to go visit him in the studio every night he was cutting records he was cutting records so he taught me like yo Joe if you want to be relevant in this generation, you got to keep working and working and working.
1:02:48And so he taught me about being in the studio every night. So Lil Wayne, Big Mill, 50 Cent, that's who was ringing off at that. That Big Mill, that shit ain't never going to stop. That's like, that should be in the museum. What's that shit when they take your shit and they put it in like... No, they got some shit where they put it in Washington, D.C. What is that? Library of Congress? James. You got to ask the one white guy on set. Yo, James, what is that? Is that the Library of Congress? That, bro, I'm like this. No, I'm like this. It was the hunger. For me, with Meek, it was the hunger. He made me feel like you shouldn't be shy to speak about your truth.
1:03:31Whatever you're going through, your reality, you can put it in your music. No matter if it's embarrassing or not. Like, if you cried today, tell them you cried today. Wayne I learned punchlines I listened to Cannon back to back figuring out what he meant by his lyrics and 50 it was just so New York yeah Wayne is different right so Wayne his flow because he's from the south and the southern rappers use different flows but then he started rapping over New York beats where he was hitting them flows he was still in pocket he was dumbing out like we I was just like still in pocket oh shit we didn't know people could do that I remember one record I don't know the name every time I bring it up everybody act like they don't know what I'm talking about but it was he rapped to a Jay Z record and let me tell you something Jay Z bodied that shit to begin with and that man went up in there so much you got and that man Lil Wayne was doing all this back he was doing the Jamiroquai on that shit remember Jamiroquai video he was going in the treadmill backwards like this shit Lil Wayne was doing to that shit.
1:04:39It was like AI. We had never heard nobody flow on stage. And Jay-Z bodied that. And then he went up in there and was like, and that's when I knew. I said, oh, we got a new leader at a new school. This guy, he on another level, Lil Wayne. One of the best guys you'll ever meet on Earth. So where you want to go from here, Lola? You had some success. You got platinum, gold, plaques. what do you want to do at the end of the day when you want to look at your career 10 years from now 15 years from now what's your vision of success? Being on the movie screens having my own show that's what I want. Shout out Tiana Taylor she hit me four times today you know what I'm saying?
1:05:30Word yeah yeah you know T she got a sneaker coming out so she wanted to you know you know crack You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? We so proud. Listen, Tiana, we are so fucking proud of you, man. We are. And you want to know what's crazy? She makes New York City look so good. I'm into talking shit about people or whatever the case may be, but I'm falling for the Tiana won the award. Don't she look different now to you, like from one day to the other? So now I'm looking at her outfits and I'm like, yeah. She queen. She a big girl. She, I don't know the glow up. She always been bad.
1:06:12She always been fly. But since she won the award. She got a glow, right? She looking like fucking Angela Bassett. She was ready. Right? She looking like some other shit right now. She ain't just Deonna Taylor who sit like that on the couch with us and bug out. I don't know. I'm falling for it. I don't know. I'm feeling like, wow. She was ready for her moment. You could tell that she patiently waited for her moment. And when it came, she was ready. A lot of people not ready for their moment. No. No. A lot of people wait. And that's the most important thing about this whole thing. You got to be ready for when it comes because you don't know when it's going to come.
1:06:53That's a super fact. You know, good man, you could quote as a guy named Fat Joe. His quote is, you got to stay in the game. You never know. I'm telling you. Yo, listen, you got to stay in the game. You never know. And so what I mean by that is you got a guy, I don't know if it's true or it's a lie, but what I hear from rumors, the guy, what's his name? Chameleon there? Chameleon there? He had that big hit, but he went off and did some shit in Silicon Valley. You don't know. You think Dr. Drake, this is some shit I always say. There's one of them stories, you say, Joe, you repeat this shit, But Dr.
1:07:34Dre discovered N.W.A. That's Ice Cube, Eazy-E, all of them. He's done his own albums, Chronic, which we consider one of the greatest, if not the greatest album ever. He discovered Snoop Dogg. Then when they discovered Eminem, they discovered 50 Cent. And did you think that the most money he ever made come from headphones? You never fucking know. I'll never forget when them headphones came out, I'm in first class and every white guy, white girl on that plane had them shits on. And I'm just like, that's what you know. Huh? No black people in a pit. We had it, but you know, we always going to support Dr.
1:08:17Dre. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when somebody, listen. My first pit, it wasn't mine. We stole them shits. Come on, Lola, tell me about it. Oh, wait, hold on. Because he's going to think I ain't trying to put that bag in his pocket. Oh, Lola. Y 'all, y 'all, y 'all. Lola, you stole them shits, huh? I'll just say, y 'all had them shits, and it wasn't mine. It wasn't yours? Yeah, and I ran them down. I was so grateful for them. That was the best headphones I ever heard at the time. It had the red wire. Red wire, too. It wasn't wireless. You know what broke my heart? It's before your time, Lola.
1:08:57They had this thing called the iPod. I have maybe a little weight on my iPod. I just said that, yo. I didn't know that. I was listening to Canon. Yo, my shit just turned off. Yo, let me ask you a question. Did everybody get like a fucking, like a you know when they say it's a virus? When my iPod turned off, my iPod turned off. I had like 5, 10 ,000 fucking songs on that shit. My shit just, did we get a bug? No. My iPod don't work. Does somebody has a working iPod in 2026? Cause my shit just turned off. I wonder if my, cause I still got mine. I wonder if it works. Yo, that shit broke my heart when the fucking iPod turned off.
1:09:47I'm really in the gym going, I got the same shit. Pop that, pop that shit, pop that. I'm like, I got that shit. That gym playlist to keep going. That shit said, whoosh, no more iPod. You know, they do that shit with the phones. They come out with the new phone. I 17, your shit all of a sudden start glitching, not working, you ain't here. Nah, maybe I'm losing cert. You gotta go buy the phone. You need a new phone, the updated one, the new phone. XXL Freshman 2023. Glorilla, Friday, Central C. How you feel about that class? I mean, I was on there. I feel great about it. I ain't think I would ever be on a cover of XXL.
1:10:33Wow. I dreamed of it, but I'm like, eh, I ain't never going to get that. Like, if I get a hit, if I pop, I ain't getting that. I would say that to myself. But, you know, coming from a place of doubt, did it do that to you? So when I did get it, I'm like, nah, don't ever. Don't ever self-doubt. Facts. I was proud. You ever feel like some people might have took off before you and he was like, yo, I was right next to him. Like I had this artist, shout out Angelica Villa. She got a project coming out. And I remember she was doing like them showcases at Doja Cat. Nobody knew her. She was performing with her and Angelica had more of the power.
1:11:14She had Fat Joe there with her. I'm pushing her, blowing the bag, this, this, that. And that Doja Cat went to the fucking moon. And I remember that showcase when nobody knew both of them. You know, at least Angelica walked in with the Joe crack. We coming through, furred out. She's looking good. And man, that Doja Cat. So you ever seen that and said, damn, I got to get there or, you know. If I would have seen that, I don't think I would have got my hit. I wouldn't have been blessed with my hit. This is like when you watch somebody else's blessings or somebody else's pockets, then you ain't focused on yours.
1:11:53Talk slow to a little. Yeah, I got a little man. I tell everybody, I don't give a fuck what they say. You know they're going to try to spice my shit up. But you know, I got a little man. I came in the game. I'm selling drugs. I got Beamers and Benzes, Cuban Chains, Iced Out. All these other rappers looking at me like they saw an alien and shit. That's how I came in the game. They could fucking lie if they want. And all the niggas became billionaires before Joe Crack. And I'm sitting here still struggling for the next paycheck. And I'm like, shit, these motherfuckers really got to the billy before me.
1:12:32Like, I was like, you know, so, you know, now they inspire me. Now I'm like, all right, I got to keep going. I know we can do that because I seen these guys before they did that. So I've always looked at stuff like inspiration. Right. You know, that's how I took it. Let's listen to pain one good time. Feel the pain. Feel the pain. Feel the pain. I went to that mall and got some sleepers.
1:13:27I can do whatever I want here.
1:13:53You Why ain't giving niggas nothing he got something to prove I've got too much money to be fucking with you I got plenty options is a hundred of you
1:14:18That baseline
1:14:24You cry for everything You don't cry for love Try to play me like an outcast But bitches are outlast I'ma make you drink your tears in a shot glass I'ma make you face your fears going outside Try and do your big one on me Till I doubt that You don't cry for love but you begging for attention The bundles on my back will put some shame to your interest Instead of trying to keep it P You should have knew your limits Like I wouldn't have you crying in a New York mini No more Lift me up You cry for everything You don't cry for love No more, man No more Live me up You cry for everything You don't cry for love No more
1:15:11Shout out to Mary That bass line Thank you That shit going somewhere else with it, man Thank you
1:15:22What's the name of the project? The new joint? I bet. I bet? He's like, I bet. Say look. No doubt. It's fine. It's that New York show. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss, goddammit. Make some noise for Lola Brooke, y 'all.
1:15:49Hey, guys. It's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy.
1:16:21Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called the 1021 Podcast.
1:16:59I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
1:17:24The story I told myself can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast Deeply Well with Debbie Brown if you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole. This podcast is for you. To hear more, listen to Deeply Well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by up-and-coming Brooklyn rapper Lola Brooke. Joe and Jada ask Lola about growing up in Biggie's neighborhood of Bed-Stuy, her smash hit "You" with Bryson Tiller, what it means for her to come from the lineage of New York female rappers, and growing up on LimeWire to download the latest Lil Wayne, Meek Mill, and 50 Cent tracks. Joe also tells the story behind the making of his hit "What's Luv?" and Jadakiss explains why he knew "Why?" would be huge.
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