G Herbo talks 'Lil Herb,' Juice WRLD, Chief Keef & Chicago hood stories

11 Nov 2025 · 1 h 39 min · 41 chapters

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In short

G Herbo (Chicago rapper) discusses his “Lil Herb” era, his long career, the making of his dominating street album/song, and Chicago hood realities—plus stories about fashion/drip, taxes, community giving, and dangerous neighborhood life.

Guests

The episode is hosted by Joe and Jada (Joe and Jada Show). G Herbo is the main guest. Other named figures appear in stories/mentions (e.g., No ID, Mick, Fat Joe, Kanye West, Anthony Mason, LV the DJ), but they are not presented as interview guests.

Guest backgrounds

G Herbo is a Chicago artist with about 14 years in rap. He credits No ID (producer/mentor) and his manager Mick for guidance and record support. Joe and Jada are podcast hosts who interview artists and trade banter.

Key claims

Herbo says he’s been “legit” and a tax-paying artist for years, and argues it’s hard to “have one foot in the streets and one foot in the industry.” He says his career is a roller coaster but he keeps recording and releasing. He also claims Chicago violence can make it impossible to walk “two blocks” safely.

Notable examples

He describes dressing extremely “intentional” for a show, a viral “Louis” outfit moment, and a Thanksgiving charity plan to feed 5,000 families. He recounts a Chicago theater riot where “Lean Back” became the #1 song during chaos, and a story about gangs/violence escalating at a show.

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Introduction of G Herbo

3:40 to 5:00

Hosts introduce rapper G Herbo and discuss his journey.

“throw that shit on you know what I mean Ice Game is superb also one of the probably definitely a number one album that's out right now ladies and gentlemen make some noise for our brother G.R.”

Life Experiences and Blessings

5:00 to 7:30

G Herbo shares his life experiences, gratitude, and challenges.

“I can't wait to come see this fucking couch.”

Career and Influence in Music

7:30 to 10:00

Discussion on G Herbo's career and influence in the music industry.

“It get to a point where they go to all the casinos and be like, yo, don't let me in.”

Current Projects and Collaborations

10:00 to 14:01

G Herbo discusses his latest album, collaborations, and inspirations.

“when you get so fresh, if you on the street.”

The Importance of a Good Manager

14:01 to 18:01

G Herbo reflects on his long-standing relationship with his manager and the impact it has on his career.

“my manager, who been with me since forever, like, they got a 20, 30 year friendship, relationship, brotherhood, you feel what I'm saying?”

Life's Costs and Taxes

18:01 to 19:46

Discussion on the financial realities of being a successful artist, including taxes and their implications.

“He like, yo, in the morning, I got to go fly out to her.”

Stories from the Streets

19:46 to 21:55

G Herbo shares anecdotes about his experiences growing up in Chicago and the realities of street life.

“everything we gonna put some glizzies in that motherfucker no glizzies Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.”

Glizzy Conversations and Humor

21:55 to 24:41

A humorous exchange about food preferences and celebrity interactions, focusing on the infamous 'glizzy'.

“Because he knew this shit was coming sooner or later.”

Glizzy Conversations and Humor

26:51 to 28:00

A humorous exchange about food preferences and celebrity interactions, focusing on the infamous 'glizzy'.

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Glizzy Conversations and Humor

29:15 to 29:25

A humorous exchange about food preferences and celebrity interactions, focusing on the infamous 'glizzy'.

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Glizzy Conversations and Humor

29:29 to 30:00

A humorous exchange about food preferences and celebrity interactions, focusing on the infamous 'glizzy'.

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Navigating Career Challenges in the Music Industry

31:31 to 38:48

G Herbo discusses the ups and downs of his career and the mental challenges of staying relevant.

“Hi, it's Karen in Georgia from My Favorite Murder.”

The Reality of Street Life and Choices

38:48 to 42:00

G Herbo shares insights about street life, the importance of separating from it, and the struggles involved.

“Let him say, there's a jewel that young niggas got here.”

Life in Chicago: A Dangerous Era

42:00 to 45:20

Learn about the treacherous conditions of life in Chicago during a rough era.

“A nigga came all the way from down the corridor.”

A Legendary Concert Experience

45:20 to 47:58

Hear an intense story about a chaotic concert and the unexpected events that unfolded.

“I had the ugly niggas in the audience in a major way.”

The Cops and Crime in Chicago

47:58 to 49:54

Understand the relationship between police and the community in Chicago's streets.

“Number one, they forgot they was fighting.”

Early Encounters with Law Enforcement

49:54 to 52:48

Discuss early experiences with the law and the lessons learned from them.

“I've been with anywhere you can name in LA, every hood, this and that.”

Collaborating with Wyclef and Juice WRLD

52:48 to 55:18

Discover the significance of collaborations with Wyclef and the late Juice WRLD.

“All my people, every one under 10, she gave me a little gift.”

Family Dynamics and Relationships

56:40 to 1:00:48

Discussion on handling relationships with respect and love amidst challenges.

“There's a lot of things that's pretty remarkable about you.”

Family Dynamics and Relationships

1:01:52 to 1:02:23

Discussion on handling relationships with respect and love amidst challenges.

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The Complexity of Relationships in the Hood

1:03:51 to 1:10:01

Exploration of the social dynamics and conflicts arising from relationships.

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Navigating Relationships in a Dangerous Environment

1:10:01 to 1:17:01

The hosts share cautionary tales about relationships and the risks involved.

“You need to stay over there because that nigga going to kill me.”

The Importance of Community and Connections

1:17:01 to 1:18:31

Discussion about the significance of community ties and mutual support.

“Lil Herb man that song's right man We doing shit, man.”

Hood Stories and Life Lessons

1:18:31 to 1:23:50

The hosts recount personal stories from their youth about fighting and survival.

“He was Brolic before we even knew what a muscle was, right?”

Addressing Social Issues and Community Support

1:23:50 to 1:24:01

The conversation turns to societal challenges and the need for community assistance.

“and made it like performing arts where it's like kids could go work out, pool, like, you know what I'm saying?”

Community Initiatives and Food Support

1:24:01 to 1:25:19

Learn about the importance of community support programs like Swerving Through Stress and their impact on local youth.

“where kids could have a safe place to like work out still.”

Consequences of Hunger and Poverty

1:25:20 to 1:26:38

Discuss the connection between hunger, poverty, and crime in inner-city environments.

“really came about, just trying to provide something for inner-city kids where it's, like, free therapy, suicide, hotlines, food drives, food giveaways, you feel what I'm saying?”

Impact of Environment on Youth Behavior

1:26:39 to 1:27:54

Explore how the environment affects the behavior and choices of young people in struggling communities.

“kid who moms can't eat, you know what I'm saying?”

The Complexity of Street Credibility

1:27:55 to 1:29:30

Analyze the motivations behind wealthy individuals maintaining gang affiliations and street credibility.

“Like when I was coming up, I ain't had nobody like me that I wanted to be like and could see and tell me some real shit.”

Chicago's Tough Choices

1:29:31 to 1:30:45

Understand the difficult choices people must make while growing up in Chicago's dangerous environments.

“like I don't I really personally don't understand right rich rich rich dudes right Right.”

Discussion on the Duality of Wealth and Environment

1:30:46 to 1:31:30

Insight on why successful individuals still embrace their street roots despite having wealth.

“it's not even about what they'll do to you.”

Chicago's Tough Choices

1:32:19 to 1:32:44

Understand the difficult choices people must make while growing up in Chicago's dangerous environments.

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Violence in Puerto Rico

1:34:06 to 1:36:30

Examine the alarming levels of violence and crime in Puerto Rico through personal anecdotes.

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Recognition and Respect in Culture

1:36:31 to 1:38:00

Highlight how respect and admiration are shown in different cultures, particularly in Puerto Rico.

“We on FaceTime, like, two minutes straight, just showing me guns.”

Escaping the Streets

1:38:00 to 1:39:50

Discussion about the necessity of leaving dangerous environments for safety.

“you gotta get out of there for sure how you was saying like even when it kind of like bro so so that nigga was smart bro.”

Reflections on Survival

1:39:50 to 1:42:00

Conversations about the harsh realities of surviving in dangerous neighborhoods.

“because also, a dude will force you to hurt him.”

The Impact of Violence

1:42:00 to 1:44:00

Discussion about the impact of gun violence and personal stories of being shot at.

“and I said I got shot at a hundred times back in the day.”

Musical Expression of Pain

1:44:00 to 1:45:40

Introduction to a new track that encapsulates personal struggles and losses.

“Play Fallen Soldiers man Y 'all gotta hear this shit You definitely gotta hear this shit kid Finky Crocker that shit Yeah it's that It's that right here Who produced this?”

The Weight of Loss

1:45:40 to 1:47:40

Exploration of grief and the emotional toll of losing friends and family.

One Chance: The Struggle

1:47:40 to 1:51:20

Highlighting the themes of taking risks and the importance of seizing opportunities in life.

“Glock on me for protection Homies just a couple left, falling soldiers Since Chico died, nigga, I ain't got nothing left Yo, Kiss, I think this premeditated.”

G Herbo's Reflections and Gratitude

1:52:00 to 1:54:00

G Herbo shares his experiences, thanks key figures in his life, and promotes his latest album.

“All platforms, the hottest shit out right now.”
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2:55I'm telling you.

3:09It's the God Crack Kim. Woo! You know who it is, your boy Jada. Yo, why I throw you off like that? You heard that Crack Kim. You know who it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And I don't know about them other shows, but we keep our word with just that. Today's guest, when you think of a good person, you know what I mean? He get love where he's from. He get loves in other demographics that shows what kind of character he has. Excellent artist. Student of the game. Top tier father. throw that shit on you know what I mean Ice Game is superb also one of the probably definitely a number one album that's out right now ladies and gentlemen make some noise for our brother G.R.

4:02Ball appreciate you big bro man love you man no you know I gotta lace you you know what I mean no I gotta I gotta let the people know what it is appreciate you big bro let's get it I know this lady we were having a lot of light-skinned guys on the fucking show, right? AI, Common. It was like, we've been... I didn't know he was looking at that. I didn't know he was going. Go fuck yourself, man. You're taking the journalism thing to another level, man. Go fuck out of here. Don't listen to this job I hear. Chi-Town's on. She heard what we've been watching you for. How many years you been in the game?

4:41Shit, going on 14 now. 14 years. That must make me a dinosaur. right? You made a game 14. So you're like, they're not looking at you like Crackasaurus. Crackasaurus. Crackasaurus. They're not looking at you like a young artist, right? They're like, you a savvy vet. Nah, he seasoned mediocre. He in the mid of his career. He got more to go. And he's on fire. You've been around 14 years. You more on fire now than ever before. Me and Jada, we on the podcast. We killing these niggas. they dizzy these fucking chalk ass niggas they didn't want to commit suicide they're like yo these motherfuckers smashing this shit they dizzy flabby and sick oh what's your zodiac sign get the fuck out of here with that shit this is the shit nah you know that tell him her bro you been trying to get on this shit yeah nah I been overly like I couldn't wait to do this shit like for real for real you know Shannon I woke up I saved this fit for the day.

5:47Everything, all this shit. This is all intentional. I can't wait to come see this fucking couch. Thumbs up. Appreciate it. There been another guy came up in and he said his gear wasn't ready. He walked in and everything. Another leader of the new school that be dripped out. He walked up. He seen niggas in first shit and all that. And nigga said, come back next time, Joe. I'm not ready. You know that's a fact. No, that's a fact. A guy that y 'all consider one of the flyest niggas in the world. Am I lying? and my lion ladies and gentlemen he's talking about fly god Westside Gunn stepped in he wasn't ready to cause he throw that shit on cause you always doing these imaginary shits we gotta get some he came halfway nigga he came and sat in the show you know he throw that shit on he didn't he didn't have what he wanted to have on now he got a problem so he's gonna come back now when he wants he got a problem and he wanted to bring his guy he wanted to bring us some sneakers too crack When he come back, I'm going to have to throw the extraterrestrial shit on.

6:50Shit. The fur is going to still be breathing. This shit is going to have an AT jacket on. That shit is going to still have veins popping up. The lion is going to still be breathing. That nigga ain't dead yet. Nigga, I'm going to be up in here like this. No bullshit. See what I got to go through? Take me away. Bullshit. This shit about to go great. Nah, I was on some shit. This shit was all intentional. I laid my fit out on the couch. That's how it's supposed to. I do this drip shit. what my room look like as you supposed I got I probably got a hundred thousand of drip just in the hotel room on the couch laid out for this that's what I'm talking about talk slow to these niggas that don't know talk slow to these niggas yeah man for real I dress like the manny I ain't gonna lie to you you know how people got gambling problems people go gamble this when you know yourself there's gamblers who sign themselves out the casino and be like yo don't allow me to gamble I didn't even know you could do no I swear to god This guy's really blowing the fucking mortgage of the house.

7:47It get to a point where they go to all the casinos and be like, yo, don't let me in. I'm about to go shopping. I want somebody to sign me out. I'm tired of buying the fly. Sign you out to stores. I got to get out of here. Burnoff kicked me out. Get your phone. Oh, Gucci kicked me out, Louis. They got to take your phone or they got to take your eyesight. He said, that nigga, look, I ain't going to lie. That nigga just said, before we started this shit, he said, yeah, I'm at the Knicks game and shit. Louis down to the ankles. No, I'm Louis to the... Yo, listen. Thank God I don't sell drugs because I wore an outfit.

8:20I told you on the show, did I not, tell you on the show, whoever wear gear, whoever's into fashion, there's a lot of people we know, do not come to the gang. Yeah, for sure. Do not come to the gang because it's going to be real painful for you. When you look over here, it's going to be like an eyesore. I'm going to dump you so that giraffe to go with. It looked like it came with the jacket. Watch, Stu. Come on, man. Watch look like it came with the jacket, like you bought it together. Watch came with the shit. Accessory. Man, what the fuck, man? You can't make this shit up. No bullshit. And the man told me, come in the suit, he said, damn, Joe.

9:01He said, why you wearing all that? Why you got all that on? I said, listen, this is years of abuse. This is years of pain. You guys wanted me dead or in jail. so while you throw that camera on and I'm courtside on that jumbotron you gonna read Louis all day make you hate it and let me tell you something that shit went so viral I thank God I don't sell drugs or nothing I said yo this is they coming they was coming they was coming they coming that was the Frank Lucas moment that was the Frank Lucas moment nigga that shit had me hot Sherry Shepard everybody talking man who the fuck is this nigga that shit was pretty better Yo, Craig, that shit had me hot.

9:44I'm somewhere else sweating bullets like, yo, this shit. I don't know if I did the right thing. Thank God with taxes. Yo, was my niece Azzy was hating on you? What happened? He was hating and it backfired on her. Yeah, because they came back and told her. See that, Juwan? You got to start like, you got to start some shit like, when you get so fresh, if you on the street. 6-7! You got to start some shit like, hey, man, if you on the street. if you're on the streets or whatever you're doing, man, if you ain't really, if you ain't willing to jitchat, you gotta watch the shit you wear. You might have a fair time fit.

10:19Your fit might get you fair time. My daughter trying to play me. You get fair time. She was like, Dad, let's do a TikTok. It was right out of here. We on our way to the game, and I don't know that she playing me. It's like, you know, Unk. It's like your father dressed whack or whatever. It just so happened if I'd have took the outfit off, the shit be standing by itself. It was too much paraphernalia in that shit. That shit was contraband, my nigga. I'm telling you, I got scared. Two days later, I don't know where I'm at, Vegas or some shit, Complex Con? I got scared. I said, yo, we not selling drugs no more, right?

11:00We ain't doing nothing, because we hot right now. This shit done got me. This shit done, this one of them hot hours. This is one of them hot outfits. This nigga's crazy. I did too much. But anyway, you heard. Well, anyway, I want to sign. Anybody help me? Hit James at the email. If you ever stop in therapy, I need a psychiatrist. Something, I'm going to go broke. I'm not lying to you guys. I can't do it no more. I have to admit to myself. Go from and stop joking. It starts with self first. Nigga, I got a problem. You can't stop. Soon as we leave here, I'm going to see him at Louie or Burnett. You got a problem, too.

11:41You just left Louie. You just left Burnett off. I'll be like, yeah, yeah, I just left the joint, man. But, you know, hey, we ain't have shit. I got a slogan with my shit. We ain't have nothing. No, for real. Know what I'm saying? They would give me the sneaker three years after it was this. Let me tell you, one year I worked some of you. I bought a green sweatsuit, a blue sweatsuit, and a red one. And by the year was through the middle of the school season, it was fresh for the first week. You trying to bash the yard? Nigga had the green, the blue, the shit, the same shit. Every, like, you know, they know.

12:17I was fucked up. So I give them the pain. If you're still around, guys, and I'm doing that. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, in past generations. That's ill that you feel. Because I feel like that, too. Because I wasn't the freshest nigga in school or none of that. As soon as I hit 14, Most of my get back is put up. That was in my English class. Let's stop. I was 14. Soon as I was 14, I was wearing Dapper Dan. Iced out. 14. It was over. It was over. After that, I was like, I was having fun. And you had the Brady Bunch hair. Yeah, I had a full set of fucking hair. I'm about to go to Turkey and get my little CDO.

13:03The other day I seen the nigga, this nigga had all his hair. I walked in the watch store, I think F.B. Giorno or some shit, and the nigga hair was like, I said, man, I wish I had shit like that. I changed my name to Hesedio and shit. My shit flipping like on some bullshit. If I had hair, I'd be on some Super Bowl shit. Like, I'd be - She said I'd be on some - Nah, I'd be irritating. My shit would be curled up like finger waves, all type of shit. All the way out the head. Look where it's with you, Herb. My shit would be like, motherfucker had a full set. He's crazy. Let's talk about this album that's dominating the streets right now, Lil Herb.

13:49I wasn't working with No ID. Man, that's my big brother. Big shout out to No ID. He's my guy. Big shout out to No ID, man. at Big Bro and him and Mick, my manager, who been with me since forever, like, they got a 20, 30 year friendship, relationship, brotherhood, you feel what I'm saying? So No ID, he one of them, like, people throughout my journey that always just, like, gave his input, do shit, do this, do this, do that, you feel what I'm saying? It's like, I know I could call Big Bro and just, like, as an artist, you gotta have people around, like, like, No ID what you could call me, like, alright, but I need to get hot, certain shit like that, you feel what I'm saying?

14:28So it's like, Yeah, it's a blessing to even be able to, like, have somebody like that in your corner for real, for real. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, so shout out to Big Bro and that even, like, getting that record done and the samples, certain shit. Like, he going to make a call and get that shit cleared, like, done. Like, you ain't even got to think about the power. Yeah, no, for real, for real. Nigga, I got power. What you want me to talk about? This new fucking album, man. You want to... Well, the new song is fucking smash. You hear it everywhere. I'm legit. You know, when I did lean back, I asked for 10 years, 10 years been legit to still figure me back.

15:05They always think we like illegal, but you saying I'm legit. I've been 14 years. Literally. Legit. I've been a real tax paying artist. I don't get a citizen for that. I've been paying taxes for shit. 10 years now. For real, for real. Million dollar tax. It costs. Shit costs some M's when it comes around. You mad. Like you pissed You gotta pay that Never been a hater That's really going legit I hate taxes I hate it I hate paying I hate it I hate it Y 'all know what type Of fucking taxes You know what type Of tax Yeah I'll be this nigga Y 'all in a different tax bracket Be like a nigga Hit me on the head With a fucking back We all are We all in a different You know what I think though Hold on hold on Hold on we can talk After I pay taxes I need a massage After I pay taxes Heating pads All type of shit After I pay taxes Let me explain Center you I need I be thinking I be thinking the accountants hate us because we make so much money.

16:02These guys make a regular salary and they looking at us and they thinking this is free. They don't think we really work. Rap niggas coming up in here with all this money. And they be fucking like, ah, give them extra. Yo, I'm thinking this and this and that. I fucking hate accountants. I hate them. My dad. I hate them. My pops runs all my shit. And he still treat me like that. I come in and pay my taxes. Here go G-Wagon, the first one you got to sign. And here goes a mansion. Sock me. Damn, you got to rub it in. Yeah. You're my father. You treat me just like a fucking regular accountant. No, the accountants, they.

16:42No, the accountants hate people with. I'm going to let it sit with you. The accountants hate people with money. I'm really convinced. Yeah, for sure. And they throw a little low. No, they hate you, man. They throw a little low here, man. They throw their subs in there. Yeah, they throw them low blows like a motherfucker. They don't mean low blow. They don't give a fuck, bro. They don't care. They hate us. We make too much money to them. They thinking it's a walk in the park. They don't know I had to go to the jungles of Africa, the favela. But you know how many times we almost die? Like you, right?

17:12You young. You make music for the streets. You still ain't crossover to like me. I get paid wires, white people only. I've already reached that. I ain't got to get stabbed at the show or shot outside. I'm there now. Corporate events and shit. You still in the jungle. You in Memphis, Tennessee, Chi-Town, going to get that bag. And they don't understand. They just look at the numbers and say, yo, you made this, you made this, you made this. They don't know the type of shit we got to do to actually get paid. Hip-hop is a very dangerous sport. It's probably the most dangerous, to be honest, for real, for real.

17:54Congratulations on the show. He pulled off a big event. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. For sure. Appreciate it. Look at it, big boy. He was watching the verses in Copper. He like, yo, in the morning, I got to go fly out to her. I'm like, damn, I had to do the one. So what you did, like your own festival? Yeah, I did my own. I had my own B-Day Bash at the Wintrust. That shit was sold out. Yeah, that shit was hell. I wanted to be. And they let you do that? Yeah, they let me do that. That shit was crazy. I had 19 artists on the bill. Everything smooth, man. Everything was smooth. everything was perfect we did the show went out to two three clubs all the artists went out we partied had fun everything was safe that's when you get God that that's a prime example of you can work together and be and be positive and all that because people be scared of shit like that yeah like me they let me perform in uh Katona Park that's my hood yeah I did that they never let me perform he felt that Justin Bieber he felt that that's my look that's my brother right here D from the Bronx Look, I'm going to tell you some shit.

18:54I'm going to fuck your head up. I'll be outside in this hood and shit. Because I already don't know what he's doing. Bro from 149th Intention. We seen you at the bakery, the Patusa. We seen you outside the bakery eating on the roads by itself. Dolly, no security. In the Bronx? Yeah. That's the name of the bakery. Atuso Bakery. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Listen. We seen you outside, nigga, at the bakery in front of the roads. Tiffany Rose. Tiffany Rose outside. He just on the hood of his car eating. Hello. that's nothing no I pull up everywhere in that shit I pull up everywhere in that shit listen I tell them if you kill me in my city shame on you yeah ain't too many rappers Thanksgiving coming up we feed 5 ,000 families we just don't feed them a turkey for sure we give them the turkey the rice the soup the yam the macs the this everything we gonna put some glizzies in that motherfucker no glizzies Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

19:58Let me tell you something. What's that? Shame on you. I'm having glizzy on Thanksgiving. Shame on you. That's emphatic. I don't care what type. Glizzy shouldn't make the menu. It doesn't even exist on Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving? If you tell me you got a turkey glizzy. I'm going to tell you something, right? You, because you work out every day and all that, I'm going to fucking believe you, right? But everybody laughing at the glizzy, they eat the fucking glizzy. I walked in the Knick game the other day. Yeah. Somebody was sitting right behind me. Who? You got to stop doing these imaginaries. You know you're sitting behind me.

20:36Stop fucking playing with this. I wasn't there. Don't kiss you full of shit, kid. I wasn't there. Somebody, very important, was sitting right behind me. And when I went to greet him, he had a glizzy with sour crowd and muscle. I said, yo, you got the glizzy.

20:54I look at the nigga He got a glizzy with I looked at him I don't know how to take this Did you want to be the only one with a glizzy Or you didn't like a glizzy The man not The man not gay He there with his wife and all that I'm just saying My fucking chest hurt Where is he growing with this As much as people fuck with me over a glizzy, while I see the man and I'm like, yo, you got the glizzy in plain view. If I was a cop and I'm like, I didn't even have the flash the light. Where you got the glizzy? You got a cop got the flash the light to see the butt of the guy. Where was the glizzy though in plain view?

21:37You got the glizzy in plain view. Pull over. Pull over. Hey, what the fuck? Pull over. And all I could think of was like, yo, you got the glizzy. Right? Because they trying to make me think I'm fucking crazy. Like, I'm the only nigga eating a hot dog. I see the shit. I say, yo, yo, you got the glizzy. He said, yo, chill. Let's go on. Because he knew this shit was coming sooner or later. Wait, no bullshit. Wait, one more time. Where was that? Where the glizzy was at? Plain view.

22:12You know, when the cops pull you over, they be like, I flashed the light. I seen the butt of the gun. You know, somebody call the cops on you. I walk up decent. Yo, what's up, man? Yo, it's a glizzy. Glizzy. Like, because, you know, they got me looking like I'm the only one that get. Anyway, fuck that. You're the only one that eat glizzies in public is with promotion. You got promotional glizzies. I don't give a fuck. I'm going to eat the glizzy in front of all these niggas. Oh, man. Fuck that.

22:48What the fuck? Hey, bro. It's not. It's not. It's out of this world. Bro, my homie ain't going to lie. You got a good birthday, bro. That nigga said, man, I just want to see one flag get thrown, bro. My birthday complete, man. My brother. That shit got lit. There's going to be more flags. Happy birthday, man. There's going to be a lot more. Happy birthday, YK Ski, man. Right now, we got the latest episode is my man, Kaki Ka. You heard him? Yeah, that's my dog. He's saying that nigga's incredible. Cocky Kyle sits there, big 500. Right? That nigga big.

23:26Yo, listen. You do my man, Kyle, like that, man. Hey, shout out Kyle. That's my nigga, man. Yeah, man, like. Listen, I love him. I actually wanted to text him, man. I love him. How about if we ever need a third host on this show? We bring Cocky Kyle. That is the funniest fucking show I've seen in my life. So he's sitting there about five or some change. Yeah. And he went up now. He said, my five. Yo, yo, what? I need more. I'm trying to disagree with him. I'm just trying to agree with him so he can lay on the plate. Yeah. He's going up. Get past that pocket. You're going to make him 700. Bro, I can't breathe, bro.

24:02What the fuck? When I tell you, they almost threw me out my house yesterday because I'm watching this shit. And the man say, where's the flag? The man say, you know, when I'm on my cheat day, I'm like, I threw that flat cheat day like who the fuck what get the fuck out of here cheat day he trying to get it right man when he on his cheat day and you actually gassing the nigga like yeah you know do pull ups I quit yeah no I ain't tell him to do no pull I know you didn't I quit I know for a fact you didn't yo I quit yeah we supposed to race on Netflix live Me and him. Yo, for the race? Yeah. He said ghetto game.

24:45I gave him three cards. I gave him three cards. You know who's? Yo, that was funny. I smoked his dick. I gave him three cards. That was funny. I smoked that nigga, sir. That was funny. Yeah. That was funny. We going to work out. Nah, for sure. I'm going to give him three cards. I'm definitely betting on you. You can give him three cards. One thousand percent. You can give that nigga three cards. I'm definitely betting on that. For sure. Hard rock bets. You think they'll pull that shit? We can get a line on that. I'm going to tell you something. I might have to give him four or five cars. Kids got...

25:13Four or five? Five, he might win. No. Five, he might win. He still not won. No. Never. I was being generous. I really... I ain't even going to tell y 'all the number of cars I was going to say. I was ready to give him a block. A whole life. I gave him a block. Yo, that nigga got to run about two cars and he like, we going to make it. We going to make it. No bullshit, man. What the fuck? But anyway, I love him. I'm saying it first. If we need a third host, I want cocky cock because the man, he's a breath of fresh air. Great. That was the funniest shit. I watched that shit like 10 times last night.

25:52I just kept dying, laughing. This shit was funny. I'm foul, but fuck it. You know what I'm saying? He said the cheat day. I got to throw the flag ASAP. Y 'all threw 30 flags on me already. This shit started 10 minutes ago. Plain psyched, Blizzy. You got all type of infractions. That wasn't my charge. That was his. You know, the cop come here. But it wasn't my charge. They put the flashlight and they like, yo, this gun, I saw it. The glizzy was in plain sight. The glizzy was in plain sight. No tents on the window. Nigga said, yo. I said, nah, nah, don't worry. I ain't going to do it to you like that.

26:24But you know, yo, you got. Yo, the glizzy.

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26:31Nigga said, no tent on the window. I think you get confidence for people to actually hit a glizzy at stadiums and arenas. Like celebrities. Nah, I think they still hide this shit I think they still hide this I don't give a fuck, man

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32:42Anyway, let's talk about, all right. So I can explain to you my career. I don't know about Jadick's career. You know, he been flying consistent. But for me, right, my career is like one of them guys you see in baseball, like Big Papi Ortiz or the guy from Toronto. I either hit the shit out the park grand slam or I swing and miss and fall on my face. So my career, there's been times where I'm number one in America. Yeah. And there's other times where I'm flop mania. And then now you look in it, you got to get back. I remember one New Year's Eve, I'm in my mother's house, rest in peace. And I'm watching like the, you know, we grew up watching the Happy New Year on TV.

33:28And I remember I was sitting there in my mom's house. I was cold as fuck and I said, next year, I'm on the Happy New Year shit. You better watch. I'm going to be on that 10, 9, 8. And the next year, I was dead with a fucking burgundy velour suit. But you, it seems like you 14 years. You went hot, cooled off a little, this, this, that. Tell me about that whole transition. when you said that shit, like, I felt you for real, for real. Like, I think that it's, it's a, a mental thing too. Like with us, we feel like that. Like even when we cold, we still hot. Cause I was just about to say like, you ain't never not been that nigga to me.

34:09You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you might feel like that. And I feel like that too. I felt like that many times. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, especially with my career. Thank you, bro. My shit, yeah. Give me the right hand, bro. For the guards. For sure. You got to go right hand so this shit don't go left, man. Somebody told me that yesterday. I'm sticking with it for sure. No way. Anyways, I'm saying all that to say like, with me, my career especially, like, I definitely, it's been like a roller coaster. Like, nigga, hot as fish grease and shit will cool off and get cold and slow down.

34:38But it's like, you just really can't stop. You just gotta stay at this shit. Go to the studio, figure this shit out. The name of the game is rap. So it's like, they gonna love you. Then they might hate you, but they gonna love you again if you put some shit out. If you put some shit out that's hard, and they gonna feel it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and that shit, like, what that nigga, what that nigga Mitch said, he said, as long as the streets is filling in, a nigga like me can sell it. Like, just gotta put this shit out. Just keep going for real. So with me, and I seen that though, like from my perspective, looking at the world on the outside, like, I seen people count me out for like, oh yeah, it's over with.

35:10Herbo trash, Herbo garbs and this. And me mentally, I know I could rap. I know I'm one of the hardest niggas to get in front of a mic for sure. So it's like, that just fueled my fire. I seen that shit and I, and I like the same way you said, like next year, I'm gonna do this. Like, I really had a real plan, and I saw that shit out. Like, I'm like, man, next year, I'm dropping as much as I can. You feel me? I got a lot of shit in order in my life mentally, in my personal life, family shit, getting through that shit, business shit, all of that shit. But in the midst of all that fire, I still went to the studio, and I had a plan.

35:42I had a strategy. Like, I'm finna record my hardest shit and put this shit out, and the streets are gon' feel it. Tell me if I'm wrong, right? Because you grew up in the real street shit, and it feels like... You had a point where you like, all right, I know what I got to do to get to this next level. I got to do. And it feels like you telling the homies, yo, chill. Let me do what I got to do. Yeah. That's one of the hardest things to do, especially if they alleged killers and they crazy. This and this and this. I really had to do this. Like, I'm not lying. I think that Joe invented the entourage.

36:21Yeah. Like, I think I invented that. invented the entourage. Don't throw no flags. I'm telling you the truth. If you from my era, Fat Joe might be one of the first guys you ever seen with 40 guys that look like they don't leave the block missing... These niggas are animals. Yeah. I had to tell them, yo, fall back, wish me luck. If I make it, you might need something. Yo, it's the hardest shit to tell a group of animals. No. Alleged killers. Heavy on the animals. You got to say that. real animals. Animals, savages. Yo, listen, let me go. And some of them get mad at you and you tell a man, I have one of my mans that I don't want to talk too deeply, but my man was Kingpin.

37:06And that's my man. I mean, I grew up with him and this and that. I had to explain to the nigga, I say, yo, you fat Joe brother, you out here moving all type of shit. I'm trying to be legit. They going to run me in some Rico shit with you. You too big out here. it's actually better for you to stay away from Fat Joe because I'm over here on Billboard doing whatever I'm doing and you and he never to this day he never understood what I was trying to tell him I'm trying to tell him it's like a nigga you know you get caught you be like alright come out the closet now we're caught now yo Johnny get out the speaker box it's like yo bro we don't all gotta get caught and so it's hard for dudes to understand yo I have an opportunity a generational opportunity that one day you might need a favor from me let me go it happened to me I'm talking about me I'm staring down the barrel meaning two eyes of a stone cold killer telling him yo I love you Chagito I can't do it You know, I did.

38:21I had a rough conversation. You can't beat up my fans. You can't this, this. That doesn't work for me. I'm looking, please, just hope I make it. I hear that in like your interviews and all that. Well, you were at that transition. And how's it going for you? I'm in a good space now, like mentally with this, like this shit. You are? What about them? Not everybody here, no. I was just finna say like for real, for real. Everybody ain't gonna get it. Let him say, there's a jewel that young niggas got here. No, for sure. They ain't going to all understand it. Like, the same shit you said, I'm telling, like, I'm looking at you and only certain niggas could really say that, that you had to do that, that you really had to, like, separate yourself from this shit because you really going to either die or go to jail, especially when you running with niggas like that.

39:09Like, I used to have 100 niggas at my shows, too. 100 niggas, 50 niggas on the road, all this shit. Like, I really, that shit is, the proof is in the pudding. That shit on paper. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like even to do that and to be able to like separate yourself from that and be able to look at a nigga that's really in the streets, that's a stone cold killer, savage, whatever it is. And be able to say that you got to have that shit in you, too. You feel me? Like, I ain't never had no fear in my life. When you get to a certain point and you see like because I didn't understand what I was doing either.

39:37Like I didn't understand I was going to be this big. But when I became this big and I realized like, damn, I'm doing some shit that I could change everybody life. Your life, my family life, everybody life. You feel what I'm saying? That's when you start realizing, like, niggas be on some shit. Like, they don't understand or they don't get it. Nigga be on some shit like, oh, you a bitch. You punking out. You doing this. You doing that. When you have those type of conversations, you got to tell a nigga, like, bro, if you don't stop doing this shit, you going to go to jail or you going to die for real, for real.

40:05Like, nigga be naive to the fact. You feel what I'm saying? It's like me, I never been naive to anything I was doing. When I was in the streets, I knew for a fact the shit I'm doing could put me in jail or I could get killed doing this shit. You feel what I'm saying? and it's like, and you got to have them conversations with niggas where it's like, you just, you can't do it. It's not, it's no way possible to really have one foot in this industry and one foot in the streets. That shit is, that's what I tell them all the time. You know, I'm real connected to Chicago. Yeah. Man, I don't know if you know, right?

40:34And, nah. He asked the people and I don't know if you know. You know what time it is, right? You're on another level. Yeah. Okay? And it's so hard to walk two blocks. Yeah, I'm not talking about the young shit we see niggas killing It just Gang, you can't walk two blocks In Chicago Yeah, no, for real That shit sound crazy, but it's for real though In my neighborhood, we growing up We'd be in the spot, chilling, hanging out Smoking weed, playing the game Niggas then left the spot and got shot Going to the corner store Two fucking blocks I want to know why they want to kill niggas 40 below zero Yeah.

41:14It's 40 below zero. It's cold. It will heat your ass up a little bit. Crack. Are you watching with binoculars out the window to see if homie go to the corner store in 40 below zero? I did a wedding for Eddie Robinson. Used to be in the NBA, my man. I think that's the Eddie Robinson. He had a wedding in the shot. He booked. Not Eddie Robinson. The fat dude. The fat, fat dude. He used to be on the next. No. Not Curry. He Curry? No. No, he was from Chicago. He was from the shot, too. Yeah, he rocked. I did his wedding. Now, I think I forgot I needed some shades or something before the wedding. So I went to the apartment store to pick up some shades.

41:57I got the robe on from my suite. You was playing. Got my hat some kind of way. A nigga came all the way from down the corridor. Jaden, can't shoot Chicago ass nigga. this shit was great. I'm like, what? This is your hat. Me, I fixed my shit immediately. Saji Slaughter. Yeah. I'm wearing my dick. That's it. The shies wanted to. You know, for sure, it's like, fucking, I don't think like, people really realize like to the capacity of like how real, like how treacherous that bitch is for real. Like, it was a real era. Like, now it's not so bad. It's like, you know what I'm saying? No, I'm saying not so bad.

42:38I'm a chiming. News is bad as fuck. I'm talking about it's not so bad with like, the way your hat is. The hat is. The hat is. Like, that's not as bad. It was a real era. Like, you couldn't even think about wearing your hat right or left if you ain't know what you had going on. That shit was impossible to walk in a certain neighborhood. You're going to get your ass shot. What's the theater in the hood? Huh? It's called... No, no, no. That's the nice part. You talking about Regal on St. Knife. That's my strip. I'm from St. Knife. Regal on St. Knife. I'm from 79th, too. Yeah, nah. Here, here, here.

43:11Nah, for real It was an error Bro, it was an error You got your hat Left or right Walking down the wrong street Your ass is grass Bro Over with for you When I tell you He was dead Yo, your pops don't even know What was Like, cause I told you this story You acting like it was a regular No, I didn't That's crazy Used to be real shows At Regal Theater, huh? Yo, listen That's one of them Regal Theater that block that it's on, I'm going to let you finish your story. That's one of the worst fucking 79th Street. I'm from 79th. That's one of the worst. I don't think you understand. And it's over east.

43:46That's in my hood. Yo, this guy, he's too young. This guy don't understand. I'm from there. Nigga. No, it ain't a flag. I'll tell you a story. Let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you a true story, right? And I never said this publicly. Once I get a phone call, this is how much, you know, I'm connected to Chicago. One day I get a phone calls Kanye West. He said the Latinos and the black dudes was in the war. He said, you're the only one that can stop it. Come to Chicago and stop it. I said, nigga, I can't stop shit. I'm saying, he called me to stop the shit out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:27I'm telling you, we at a show where they got a fucking midget with a Mac 11 under him like this. A midget. A little person. A little nigga on the fucking shit. A little nigga. He has a machine gun under him. Every gang you ever named was in that bitch. And they tell you. 1 ,000%. Let me tell you something. Some big shit happened, right? Big shit. Every gang was in that theater. For sure. They hate each other, right? And he was coming. Yo, listen. He was there. I was feeling sorry for him. I was not going to leave him alone. I was chilling. He was chilling. he did not know. Yo, he did not know.

45:11It was some things. It was a time where they were robbing everybody who went out there and they said of APB, yo, guess what? Y 'all come to this show, we robbing you. It is what it is. Whoever. Jada probably didn't know. I went with extra juries. I had the ugly niggas in the audience in a major way. But shit went crazy. No, no, I'm telling you, I had the ugly niggas in the crowd. Trust me. I'm picking up what you're putting down for the show. I'm telling you, the man go, it turned into a whole riot. You knew who was there? Anthony Mason, rest in peace. Anthony Mason, he from there? Rest in peace?

45:51Ant Mason from the New York Knicks? He's not from Chicago? He threw that shit. He got something. No, but listen. Anthony Mason was there. It popped off so crazy. I'm telling you, they got a midget with a Mac 11 on stage. A little person. Everybody got a gun in there. That's what I'm trying to say. That shit could have been grand corral. Like, they were just letting you, hey, you got a 357? Come inside. Like, it was the scariest shit in the world. It was ugly. You didn't even know, right? I remember looking at you. I said, damn, Jada don't even know what's going on, right? So I go over there. We went right.

46:30Anthony Mason started pushing me. Why is it riot? go Joe go he's trying to get me out of there right just lean back's number one right my DJ LV LV I look like this he was on stage with the equipment we about to perform that nigga was out the door faster he was gone disconnected to shit like this that motherfucker was gone so I look at him run past me and I said you know what they gonna think we pussy in Chicago I go forever. We run out of here. I said, yo, LV. He said, what? I said, lean back. Lean back. Fuck the 40-minute show. Just go to the drugs. Lean back was number one in America. That's just a...

47:23They forgot. They was fighting. They started lean back. I did like 20. 20 shot and then lean back. Lean back. I could not leave. I ain't even know where this shit was going, man. Yo. I ain't know where he was going. I need a drink to this shit, man. I felt pussy. Get him a drink. I felt pussy because Anthony Mason, probably the toughest Nick ever, is pushing me out. Go, Joe. Go. When I turned around and looked for my DJ, they'd be like, yo, LV, that nigga was already outside. He ran with the equipment. Ran out his shit. He run it. That shit was crazy. So who the fuck play Lean Back? LV, I tell him.

48:02You don't go back. I said, y 'all L.T. Oh. You said, if you gonna come, yeah. I said, lean back. Straight to the drugs. No cut. No cut. The pure. Yes. It's gonna lean back. Number one, they forgot they was fighting. We performed. That's a legendary fight. Yo. Yo, Jada. It was very scary in there. I'm telling you, Chowtown is up. Nah, Regal Theater, legendary, for sure. Only been inside of that one time in my life. That shit been shut. Regal Theater probably been closed 15 years. For sure. I've only been in one event in Reboot Theater. I've been in a couple events there. Yeah. That show we had was there, right?

48:38Huh? That show was there. That's crazy. You were sitting by the radiator. I don't remember where you was at. That shit was crazy in there. But what I'm saying to you is, another thing is, they don't give a fuck about the police. Fuck no. Hell no. Man, them young niggas are shooting at the police out there. They don't give a fuck. It ain't even little niggas. I'm talking about the... Little niggas, big niggas, medium niggas, orange, green, small. You know how many times I'm in Chicago and the cop is there and the nigga dropped the biggest gun in the world in front of the cop and the cop just turned his cheek like he don't know what's going on and the nigga throw the gun in his...

49:18I've been there. The cops know, yo, these niggas will kill me. Let me chill. Unless the cop is on bullshit. Nah, for real. He know. Let me chill. Nobody, everybody in Chicago, and it's crazy. It's like, you know, like, man, shout out to all the police out there that protect the serve, man. They got a goddamn real tough-hand job, bro, because, like, in Chicago, bro, in the streets, like, niggas don't got no regard for police, you feel what I'm saying? Like, that bitch, the high-speed... How about that's the only place, not even LA. I've been with anywhere you can name in LA, every hood, this and that.

49:59I've never seen a place other than Chicago with no disregard for the... with no respect for the... They don't care about the cop. I was one of them. I ain't used to give a fuck either. I ain't gonna watch it. You wasn't like... I ain't never... I don't care about none of that shit. I ain't care about none of that shit, man. I'm blessed to be here, bro. But that's just like the coaching. I cared about the cop. Nah, hell no. I always knew, respect the cop. Let's get up out of here. Yo, I knew... The one thing I knew that my mother and father always taught me since I was a kid is yo, tell them you got a lawyer.

50:33I knew this even when you didn't have a lawyer. My pops told me We didn't have a lawyer. We couldn't even afford one. We couldn't afford one. I'd be like, yo, I know my rights. I got a lawyer. That's the first thing he taught me. They taught me that shit. Like A, B, C, D, E, F, G. Six, seven years old was like, I got a lawyer. Nah, for sure. My first time going to jail, I was like, now you have a lawyer. I was like 10 years old first time I got arrested. What? No bullshit. 10 years old first time you got a brother. I'm going to jail. What they locked you up for? Some fried ass shit. I was young at my homie crib.

51:04We, his mom's one there. I went to jail for the same shit for the first time. Yeah, because he... Three, four in the morning. You know what he was saying. I know what he's saying. I know, I went to jail for the same shit. Let me tell you, we went upstairs to the roof of his crib in an apartment building. I don't even remember how the fuck we went up to the roof. We climbed, we went to the third floor. You know how you could climb on a ladder and go up to the roof of a building? Like, we went and did that and was throwing bricks off the roof at cars. Like, just throwing bricks and shit at cars, moving cars, going down the street.

51:35He lived on a busy street. We just doing that shit for like an hour. But this is how we got arrested, our dumb ass. We got bored and started dropping the bricks on the cars on the street. So that was how we got caught because it's like they coming from down. You could tell somebody doing this shit from this building, from the top of the shit. And somebody called the police. police came, got in the building and probably one of the tenants was like, man that's them badass boys right there on the second floor like, you feel me? They came, locked by us up, that was the first time I was in the gym.

52:02I mean, through a party in his house, his mother and father was out of town, they locked all of us up. I was maybe I would say 13, 14 but they locked 20 niggas, the whole party? They thought we broke in there, so they locked everybody up and it was the first time I went to the precinct or whatever that is, locked up. and man, he threw a party and we know the lady, we know the man they really booked y 'all for trespassing yeah, he locked everybody up I got locked up like that before too though like a party full of people where everybody got booked, shit like that ain't gonna lie life used to be like simple and fun though bullpen be lit in that motherfucker 20 of the guys get locked up, you don't even give a fuck you in jail, niggas just in there just chilling man, I ain't gonna lie like yeah, I done been there, life used to be simple man no bullshit Talk about the features How the hell You get Wyclef How you link over Wyclef That's too tough man I ain't gonna lie man Make put it Yeah Wyclef That nigga so solid That nigga so solid Like he I've been talking to him Like almost every day Since we did this shit Like yeah He be sending me ideas Yeah He be finna work on some Whole water shit For sure For sure Like yeah Nah that nigga Is a real musical genius Like for real For real I'm gonna show you something Jeff Make put this play together I think this is a fur shirt And I'm freezing this AC's too much the back of my neck nigga this shit on the back of my neck on the legendary flow y 'all went too much y 'all went too much on the AC you should've got that hat lord now this shit below zero in this motherfucker like come on now nah I can't do it that's a nice ass fur by the way Thank you, brother.

53:48It's a nice-ass fur. It was a gift. Shout out to Carolette. All my people, every one under 10, she gave me a little gift. She said, brother, I bought you something. Appreciate you, Carolette. You know, when you put that shit on, when you an expert dripper, you can just look at some shit. You can look at that, just know how much it costs. Shit like that. You know them? Yo, get me. I ain't gonna say the number. Gotta be stopped. Yo, I have to be stopped. You know what? Let's make a toast to the new album. Lil Herb. Let's do it. All platforms. Lil Herb out. Shit out here. Out now. Let's get it. Yeah, I'll open it.

54:25I'll open it ASAP. How special and meaningful is the Juice WRLD feature for you? I know that was your guy. Yeah, man. That's my brother, man. Long-Lil Juice. And just the music that we do, the shit that, you know what I'm saying, me and Juice WRLD make. I really had to put that on tuck. I put that one on Tuck, so I'm going to do something else with that record. Just, every time I think about it, bro, it just be like a nostalgic feeling. I be trying to, like, relive the moments that we had and shit. That nigga was just like a foreign-ass nigga to be around, bro. I ain't going to lie. I met him a couple of times.

55:03That nigga, energy was just great, like, unmatched, for real, for real. Like, that nigga was like, yeah, let's get it. but that nigga energy like it was just like super pure bro like our relationship and even of course we met through music through the industry but like our shit ain't used to have nothing to do with music bro that shit used to like that nigga used to just he used to make me rap like I never used to want to get in the studio and do songs with him I never used to send him records like jump on this like nothing like all the records we got just was us vibing having fun in the studio bro That nigga used to make me rap with him, you feel me?

55:39And, like, he was such a pure talent. Nigga was just so good at that shit. I used to just want to watch him rap for real, for real. Like, that nigga was just a different breeze, though. I messed the fuck up with nigga. It's the only show you're going to have to God pour champagne. They suspicious, man. Yeah, you know that. Two-time fellas. To the new album, Lil Herb. Yo, little. We going number one week. We going number one album, baby. You know that? Yeah, man. Thank you. Give it up, man. Give it up. Some of the finest of champagnes, the Ace. That real leather. Shout out to our partners over there, Ace.

56:14You know what I mean? Shout out to the whole Rock Nation. I don't think we shot them out enough. Shout out to the Rock team. Letting us be in this prestigious space. Desiree Perez, Jay-Z, Juan, everybody involved, man. Brinkley, Lori, Rich, K, King, two-time fellas. I take everything for granted. The whole production staff, we appreciate you guys. We got to get them flowers out. We can make it get smelt, man. Listen, let me tell you something. There's a lot of things that's pretty remarkable about you. Right? Listen, let me tell you. There's a lot of them. Yeah, read the smart questions. No, read the shit.

56:54Nigga, an expert. Nigga, an expert. Yo, go ahead, Jay. An expert, I mean. Expert storyteller, by the way. When your record reached the algorithm. Let me hear the remarkable things. You fucked my shit up. My train of thought. How you forgot? If you was going to hear the remarkable compliment. It was about to be legend. Like, I know I forgot what I had. How? But I know it was going to be legend. Listen, you're pretty remarkable, right? Appreciate it. Yo, yo. The look, big brother. The look, big brother. You guys are fucking with me, man. I'm telling y 'all, y 'all gave me a sip of this shit. Now you're fucking with me.

57:33He ain't going to blame it on the sip. He's just saying he's got some of the best grapes, but now the sip can't do you like that. No. Come on. You're pretty remarkable because you have a wife, correct? Yes, sir. And over here in New York, we know her since she was a baby. Yes. She's from here. Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, honey, your daughter locked in. For sure, for sure. You got an ex, girl, your baby mom, and you just shot a video. Yeah. Money back. Yeah, for sure. Shout back, man. What the fuck, man? That shit amazing. That's gangsta. That's gangsta. Yo, what kind of shit? Gangsta. All my ex-baby mom, they want to stab me in the neck.

58:19How do you pull his feet off? How do you pronounce your oldest son? Am I the only nigga that's in the game? Yo, son. I want to meet him, dog. Yo, that's my eye. I'm going to push him in. I'm going to pull him in, man. Yo, son. Yeah, he said he want to meet yo, son. He's a rock star already. Nigga, a real rock star for sure. But what we're saying is, how do you get that kind of relationship? your son's mom, bring him to your show. That's enough to start World War III. If an ex could bring his son to the show with him, man, that shit is war. Like, how is this? And I'm praying for peace to continue.

58:53How does that work? Man, you know, like, the public perspective, like, everything ain't always perfect in a family dynamic. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit might get rocky or whatever the case. But it's like, you know the little saying, like, I was saying that just like, you know how that shit, what's the saying? God don't bless no mess. You just got to just like be pure with this shit and lead with love and respect. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I ain't never not had respect for back. I ain't never not had respect for any of my baby mama's situations. You feel what I'm saying? Like, shit like that.

59:22So it's like, and it's the love we got for our children, bro. Like, you feel what I'm saying? That shit overpower everything, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, when it come to family in general, like, every man, even if like, I'm not even speaking on just only my situation. Like, even if shit do be rocky like between like a nigga and his baby mama or some shit like that deep down you want it to work you want to have your girl to be able to be cool with you know what I'm saying your new girl and shit like that oh no you want it they just you wish for it you just gotta go for that shit bro you just gotta like you know just try it like you feel what I'm saying a lot of people just don't try a lot of niggas don't like instead of trying instead of trying they just leave it there you feel what I'm saying like a lot of in a way the kid lose so it's like you know what I'm saying Like, I ain't going to never, my kid ain't losing it by any means.

1:00:11You feel what I'm saying? So, like, that's my mindset. And I'm just blessed that that shit work in my favor for real. Yeah. I mean, that's. Definitely a special, definitely go down in history as a special human being. There's only a certain selected people who are under that umbrella. Will Smith, you, and two other people that I don't know yet. That's what I'm saying. That's good for people to see that everybody can get along. That's very rare. Yeah, no, for sure. You know what I'm saying? So it's beautiful to see. It's super rare. That you're putting your son first and everybody's getting along.

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1:05:06you know motherfucker be mad at a dude because he was like his girlfriend's ass yeah they be mad you didn't even know her right you know how many wars happened because a dude be like yo fuck that nigga yo bro you didn't even know this woman when I knew you know that Yo Jada you know this is very real what I'm saying I feel like 80-90 % of wars And shit in the street always happen Behind a female 1000 % I don't give a fuck what a nigga say That shit ain't about money, drugs, a block That shit be behind Animosity behind a woman bro I done seen this shit A thousand million gazillion times For real for real That's what I'm trying to tell you That's how special it is that you able to Get along with everybody Because that shit right there Beautiful.

1:05:58I told him a story about my man. My man, he in jail forever. The nana. The nana, huh? He was one of them alleged. Well, he's in jail forever. He's never coming home. That's great. People come and be like, you know, his wife, she used to sleep around. So he'd come and be like, hey, guys. Bitches is in the club. He'd be like, huh? La nana. you know Johnny that works at the music thing he was with La Nena next thing you know Johnny deader than a motherfucker right that motherfucker coming one day hey guys La Nena was like stop she's a great woman she'll never cheat on your ass Mario Mario gone like yo most these guys that kill off the women the first day they on the news for killing the dude over the woman.

1:06:55She already moved on. Yeah, nah, for sure. So you gotta find her. Swims is over, she fucking out both pants legs. She ain't waiting. Shit I never understood was when a guy dies, his best friend takes his wife or his girl and they'll be like, oh. No, no, no. He dead. I'm talking about a guy's dead. It happened in my hood so many times. Too many times. It's too normal. Too many times. So say you always see Johnny and Willie all the time from kindergarten. All of a sudden, Johnny gets killed. And Willie's a new man. For sure. Johnny would have wanted this. No, he wouldn't. He didn't want that shit.

1:07:37That nigga turn it over in the fucking grave. Like, if they gave him one day, he'd come kill Willie and the motherfucker. Like, one day, yo, you could go back up. One day, you just, that's what he going to do. He going to do that. Shut that nigga's shit. And one day they go back. Release the head. He chop them to pieces. Hey, let me tell you something. If my wife tell you Joe would have really liked Tyrone, she's a fucking liar. Kill Tyrone. Fuck him. Man, I'm a drink to that. Kill that nigga. Fuck him. Don't let him come up in my crib talking about Joe. He would have understood. No, he wouldn't.

1:08:16No, he don't. It's the craziest shit. The hood is crazy. Nah, the hood's just crazy, bro. It be really, that's just like some generational, diabolical shit where it's like, nigga, you really wanted what I had the whole time. You been wanting the fucker the whole time. You ain't comforting her. None of this shit. That shit don't happen by coincidence. People around it. Yeah. The niggas just, oh, no, I think they look good. I think they're right together. Y 'all all fucking sick. Yeah, for sure. Y 'all sick in the head. They all sick of that. You fucking dumb fucks. Little bullshit. I've seen that a hundred times.

1:08:49I'm a whole nigga. You fucking dumb fuck. You know how many times I've seen that shit? Yeah, no, that shit. I could not understand the best place to go. That shit gotta be like off limits for real niggas. What? That was just, man, yo, nah, you know, they understand each other well and this, get the fuck out of here with that shit. Like, it's certain niggas, like, just a different breed of different cloth of niggas. Like, I really could wholeheartedly, genuinely say, like, I ain't never even looked at anybody I love white for, looked at they woman and wanted that shit. you feel what I'm saying like wanted they wanted to have a family fuck no hair no like I don't even like give a fuck how that shit before I was in a relationship however attractive your girl may be I'm never looking at a nigga girl I'm telling this guy's story right I live in Miami got the big mansion gold walls all type of shit my shit it's your spot it's your spot big shit I just wanted to clarify legendary shit and every house in the whole neighborhood is a mansion right so I don't know nobody I'm driving my house every day this that the next door neighbor be saying what's up he's a footballer one night I'm in a club in Miami and I got that record out baby I won't tell if you don't want me to now this might get me stabbed by my wife because she never heard this story but the girl they play this shit and the girl come up in front of me and she started dancing like is she bad I mean see her neighbor hey I don't know who the fuck she is I'm the girl that's always with the football player next door to me like this long story short she was like yo Joey Crack what's up I've been waiting I said listen you trying to get me murdered niggas got guns in Miami if that nigga know I talk to you in any way he come outside and shit right next door nigga I'm waving at him every day you gotta be out your fucking mind she said yo I thought Joey We crack with.

1:10:47No, no. You thought wrong. Yeah, for sure. You need to stay over there because that nigga going to kill me. Smart. My pajamas outside. Smart for the sake. That's smart. That's smart, real nigga shit. That's diabolical. A lot of niggas like. No. It's lies. Certain niggas cross lines or whatever. Like, I don't know if nigga be in they brain. Like, that's the type of shit. You rightfully, logically, how you don't think a nigga will kill you doing that. Right next door to me saying what's up. And you fucking my lady. You can't at ya. Make niggas that ain't crazy crazy. Nigga that was never going to do it.

1:11:21No, he didn't do it. He didn't do it. For sure. Nigga get courage. A nigga going to get courage behind a woman. 1 ,000%. No, no, no. A guy who would never kill in his life, he'll kill. A guy who would never kill. In his life. He kill. He's saying what's up to you every day. He waving at you. He telling his wife. Penis murder. Yo, this is a great guy. You know, the guy Fat Joseph. And if they prove him crazy, he only getting three or five years. That's it. Temporary and Samuel. He really made him go crazy. Like, he was Stan Lee, the processor. Oh, no, he ain't doing a date. Stand in your ground, you won't do a date.

1:11:58Stand in your ground, the law, legally, is if you're scared. Who's to tell you you're not scared? Who would have said you're not scared? I'm at the Denny's. Niggas is acting up. I shoot the whole place. I'm scared to death. You get away with the shit. No. They can't tell you if you're scared or not. I did try that. Okay. Okay. I want you to do it. I'm going to do you a scenario like this. That is standing in your ground. Like this. Nah, for real, it is. They're standing in your ground. Don't stand in your ground. I don't know if that's standing in your ground. No, no, stand in your ground. But, like, say for instance, like a nigga approach you.

1:12:29Like a nigga approaching me. And you up the fire and, like, tell him, like, get back. Don't walk up on me. And he keep coming. And he come again? Automatically. I don't know if you could kill me with your bare hands. I'm going to tell you the truth. Literally. I'm going to tell you the truth. In Miami, you can't even tell them I got the fire back up. in my hand. Let me tell you something. It's a different type of guy. These niggas ain't even got sneakers at the gas station. Him and me. For sure. Listen to me. No, don't tell him you got the fire back up. Up the fire and point it. And make him back up.

1:12:58I watched the white dude kill four kids at the gas station. They was blasting their music. He said he was scared. He stood his ground and he got away with it. I watch the news every day. I'm an old nigga. I watch the news. It's called stand your ground. If you're in fear, if you're a young lady, You're crossing the streets. These guys look like they scared you. You can let that thing fly. It is what it is. Only in Florida. Only in Florida. That's why Zimmerman won that. Yeah. Because he was in fear of his life. He said that. He was in fear of Arizona iced tea and a pack of Skittles. I'm with you.

1:13:35But what I'm saying to you is, unfortunately, it's not that. What I'm saying to you is, get out of Florida. They kill me. They'll kill you, man. Yeah, no, they smoking shit. You know, I go like this. We go. Diddy's having a video in Little Haiti or some shit like that. No, no, no, no. We keeping that. That's legit. Jimmy Goodie and Port Dicks. Shout out to B.I. I know you're watching. Shout out to Cheeto. All of my guys. He's good. Everybody watching. Everybody checking us out. We love you. Listen. We love you, old family. The man go, we go to his video, and it's four of us. We all strap. I'm not saying nothing that's crazy.

1:14:14We all got the hammer on her. Ice style, whatever. We in Little Haiti somewhere or something like that. When I tell you four kids about this skinny was walking behind us to the point we had, we pulled the guns out. Four of us with the guns. This area ain't got This nigga right here got the hammer. Niggas ain't got no diamonds. This area, you be lucky to see a Chiquita banana, nigga. They're like, there ain't no diamonds, no nothing. Fly caught. This here is like third world country. Yeah. I actually saw these kids thinking about how they could jump around the bullets and get to me. And we kept telling them, we're going to shoot your face off.

1:14:59I'm about to throw the hot pack. I'm telling you the truth. I was about to throw the hot pack. Yo. I was about to throw the hot pack. They're trying to jump around the bullets. Quick guns out. He stopped thinking about how they can jump around the bullets. My man, all four of us had guns out, and I'm telling him, bro, you're not getting through. We're going to let this thing go. Like, you're not making it, and I actually seen them. You know when you can see people thinking? Guys was thinking about how they could dive around the bullets. That's how bad and fucked up it is over there. They want to get to you.

1:15:32It's areas like that. It's areas like that. Oh, no. It's fucked up. there's areas where I ain't met nobody that fast yet though but I ain't seen a movie I ain't seen no nigga that fast it's a guy that be telling stories on YouTube who don't know me from the can of paint I bumped into him in LA after a club he had his man with him once again we had nine niggas with guns out like this he got one fat boy He keep trying to play with me on the internet. That's cool. You know what I'm talking about, right? And we explained to Fat Boy. Fat Boy looked like he was about that life. I kept saying, Fat Boy, by the time you reach for your yalla, this nine niggas going to tear you up, right?

1:16:19Look, it's here, right? And the guy keep trying to talk to me like I'm a punk, but he know the one time he ever met me, there was nine of them things at him. Yeah. And he walked it off. All right, this, you know, you walk that thing off. you can lie on them YouTubes with two views as much as you want you knew you wasn't that crazy you kept it moving right but they be like trying to talk that shit it's okay I know we lit we young old niggas man we got the shit the algorithm upside down on these niggas man they don't even know you know what I'm saying but sometimes anyway let's get to a positive thing man what's the fuck that album man Lil Herb Lil Herb man that song's right man We doing shit, man.

1:17:05My brother's working hard. You see him everywhere. And make sure you support this shit because they don't make these kind of albums. This is what it is. This is off topic and shit, but I really got to like, you've been telling me for years, like I really, I want to pull through your hood just so I can just like thug it out. You've been telling me this shit for years. I had to roll it back up. He like, bro. They rolled it out. They waiting. Herb coming. They start thinking I'm capping. I got to pull through the hood. I had to roll the carpet back up. Nah, roll that bitch back out, man. I got to pull up.

1:17:35Yeah, they ain't been lucky. I just want to pull up and get the energy like I'm kissed, man. No bullshit. My bodega, my section of Yonkers, love the hell out of me. Nah, you been saying this shit. Shout out to my man Pinky, nigga. Pinky, I'm bringing him, man. I know I'm going to take a lot to you. I still got love in y 'all. I'm pushing up. I'm pushing up. You like motherfucking Egyptian Monument right now is why. You go eat any yams, any turkey, you can go. You don't got to pay for nothing right now, Waddy. Yo, everybody we bring on here with a soul food journey is Jadakiss Cousins. Every time we talk about a soul food journey.

1:18:12I'm one of the biggest families in Waddy. My cousins. What are you talking about? I'm like, yo, Jadakiss, everybody can. Mustard sauce. You said you one of the biggest families in Waddy. Yeah, I got one of them. Yeah. I got one of them crazy. I got one of them last names that turned into nine last names. oh nah that's the witch yeah yeah you know in my hood you have to fight all nine of them like if you beat the nigga your age the bigger brother come out then you gotta fight him he keeps saving hellas for you oh nah you gotta hit my nah I gotta find me I watched up like four niggas one time I'll even say it then Clayton Clayton Crawford came out this nigga what's the name that you don't throw the flag it means Yo, yo.

1:18:59Brolic? It was the croc. Brolic is not yo, yo, yo, right? And then he came out there. Brolic is valid for sure. I beat up four of them. Yeah. Then they sent Clayton. They sent Clayton. He was Brolic before we even knew what a muscle was, right? And nigga washed the shit out of me like, they just cut. Yo, we had the Moody's. We had a bunch of families that had my brothers. Yo. They washed. He washed. He washed me, Coggy. I mean, Brolic, yo. He was Brolic. I'm just a fat big boy with hands. He come up in there. I knew I was out my league. By the fifth brother? Yeah. Fuck out of here, bro. But a lot of niggas don't come from that.

1:19:42Everybody. Let me cut you out. Wait, a lot of niggas don't come from that, where it's like growing up having a fight. Nigga, you got to fight three brothers, four cousins. Like, I used to have to do that. Like, I used to. My big brother, I swear, I wish he was in here right now. I got into a real physical, the first time and only time I ever fought my brother in life, my big brother. Oh, with your brother. My big brother. Because this nigga made me fight four people in one day. Like, this nigga made me, some little niggas whoop it. He came and got me out the house. I ain't know what's going on.

1:20:11He beat they ass. I told a story like that. I fought three of they ass straight. Whooped all three of them. And I think it was, yeah, three. It was three niggas. I fight the two niggas, whoop them. About a third nigga, this the older brother. Like, I fight the brother, the middle brother. I got to fight the old because I'm beating their ass. I'm running through them. They got three fat sisters amping the shit on on the side. By the third time, I'm like, I don't want to fight no more, bro. I'm tired. I don't want to fight no more, bro. For real, for real. And I still end up fighting a nigga, but he keep fighting.

1:20:40And I'm like, bro, I'm tired. And I don't know. I just feel like he ain't want to hear that shit. He ain't want to just me telling him, no, I'm not. I'm like, hell no. That nigga grab me, choke me up, all that type of shit. Don't ever tell me you ain't finna fight in front of these niggas outside. You should have told him you was tired of the house or whatever the case is. Niggas don't come from that type of background, though. Rapper, he had contested his story, bro. I beat the... I whooped they ass, though, for sure. This dude beat... He did some shit to my sister. She never did, but she came to get me.

1:21:10He was way... I mean, way bigger than me. Say I'm 12, he had to be 17 or somewhere. Man, this guy body slammed me, tricked me, suplexed me. This dude... You used to know body slim. Trip me. Trip for me and shit. Anything I try. To this day, I'm traumatized by it. My sister, rest in peace, Lisa. But I remember on the floor about the eighth time I got body slim. I looked up, I said, mama. We used to call them out. I said, I can't, mama. You know what? I went at the nigga three times. And then with body slim. The nigga said, I can't. Tripping me. Suplexing me. Clotheslining me. Two piece of me like, I got my ass whipped.

1:21:56I had to actually, finally, from the floor. I'll never forget. It still traumatizes me. I look at my sister. I said, mama, I can't.

1:22:10Nah, she was like, all right, Joey, this and that. But the guy, for some reason, you know, the two or three times I got my ass whipping my hood, nobody outside, right? so it's like you know what in my hood if niggas outside they'll beat you up 10 ,000 deep to one dude like they not letting fat joke get beat up in my hood to the state they ain't letting fat joke get beat up since a kid boy the one two three times I got my ass nobody was outside beat the shit out of me like my shit and I'm white so my shit is like you know how many guys I beat up and they got lucky and hit me my shit is like I jammy that's some crazy shit I feel that, bro.

1:22:53I swear to God. Like, I done really, like, man, my moms would tell you, like, every time, any time I get hit, I'm just swelling up. No way. Red, pink, purple. I done really whooped niggas and left the fight. I done whooped niggas and left the fight. Purple, literally. What does Overtown? I saw it Overtown Elementary School. Overtown, man. Overtown, Overtown, Overtown. That was a project that's still in play, man, for sure. But me and my partners who I was in business with, JB, we partnered in, like, just, it was a school that was like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, it's not demolished.

1:23:32It got shut down. Yeah, no, I'm saying it got, like, closed down when, like, the, what the fuck was it? Was they, like, boycotting teachers and shit like that? Yeah, a bunch of schools, like, the teachers, like, boycott it. It was a thing. So that was one of the schools. And we bought it. And just, you know what I'm saying? and made it like performing arts where it's like kids could go work out, pool, like, you know what I'm saying? All that just putting something in the city, like in the inner city on the south side of Chicago where kids could have a safe place to like work out still. Like Smoke, they still in there working out right now.

1:24:09They redoing the – yeah, but I'm just – yeah, they redoing that. But I'm just saying like it's still going on. It's still going, like I'm saying. Don't fuck yourself, man. Let me tell you something. rich player what was that he gotta go fuck himself cause what he says he tells me all the time he tells me all the time I'm a narcissist he says yo you're a narcissist narcissists don't wanna help the community they don't wanna give back to the community and think about people what you think about the people losing the snaps and we don't get too political here what do you mean but like they losing their food stamps oh yeah yeah yeah snaps here now you know what do you think about that?

1:24:50Because me personally, I ain't got enough money to feed 40-something million. This probably could connect with the Swerving Through Stress initiative. Yeah, no, definitely. For sure, for sure. All that go hand-in-hand. Even with what we did with Overton, you feel what I'm saying? Swerving Through Stress, we done put kids through therapy. We done have food programs. We did a peace walk at Overton at the school all through the South Side. A real peace walk to stop the violence in one of the toughest areas, you feel what I'm saying? And, like, that's how Swerving Through Stress really came about, just trying to provide something for inner-city kids where it's, like, free therapy, suicide, hotlines, food drives, food giveaways, you feel what I'm saying?

1:25:32That's me really trying to be, like, a staple in the community and give back because I know how hard this shit is, for real, in the inner-city and in poverty, inner-city. Like, what you're saying about, like, them shutting down the food stamps with not even digging too deep in that shit, it's like, bro, a nigga and me and Mick say this all the time. When a nigga hungry, when a nigga starving, when a nigga, you don't know no tough, no I will do anything to you when a nigga stomach grabbing. For real, for real. So it's like, when a nigga hungry, he gotta eat. Nigga might eat you. It's connected to crime.

1:26:06Right? So first of all, it's connected to crime. If the only way you gonna eat is through some snaps or some food stamps and now you ain't got shit and you got kids, what do you think is gonna happen? Yeah, niggas gonna rob, steal, and kill. Turn up, purge, start robbing people. Start robbing businesses, doing whatever they gotta do. Not because they just trying to get rich. They hungry. It's because they hungry. I'm gonna give you one even deeper. You ain't even thinking about like the adults, niggas who brain fully working and fully functioning. What about the kids? The 12-year-old kid who moms can't eat, you know what I'm saying?

1:26:41Moms can't provide. Pops might be dead. Pops might be in jail. His moms can't even provide and he trying to figure out how to go get some money and how to eat and get honked. Nigga's stomach growling and he's starving. He the one that's going to go out and rob and shoot you his brain not even fully developed. The only way middle kid middle kid going to go out there and do some crazy shit. The only way to save the future the only way it's ever been is you got to work on the youth because the youth just like you said you ain't care I ain't care. Yeah. I went out every day for violence. Every day of my life I went out for violence.

1:27:19Right? And my mother was a nice person, hardworking. Your father was a hardworking. My best friend, I don't want to say his name, his mother and father ran to church and his shit was going off more than anybody. Right? So I don't know if you're just trying to fit in or whatever the case may be, but definitely I'm not taking the risk. Adapt into the environment. 2025 that I'm older than I would have did when I was 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 years old. So the only way is to work with the youth before they get themselves in jail for life. Definitely, for sure. It's like you got to, that's the thing. Like when I was coming up, I ain't had nobody like me that I wanted to be like and could see and tell me some real shit.

1:28:03I made it. I come from this. I was doing this. Like even I seen a clip where you saying like a nigga come from a two-parent household and they'd be like, you not in the streets because you got a mother and a father. shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I come from a two-parent household. I was outside thugging for real. Tell me, worst way. Like, no bullshit. Like, I was outside thugging in the worst way. And I seen this shit and like, yeah, nah, for real. No bullshit. No bullshit. It's like, and how you saying this shit? Like, bro, I was one of them niggas, bro. I put myself in the line of fire over and over again, bro.

1:28:41I got shot. Couldn't walk right back outside on the block. I got shot on with a cast. Can't walk, can't run, can't nothing. But do nothing but stand 10 toes with that fire on me again. I got shot inside myself out the hospital same night. And I was in that Beamer 525 blasting that system. Is the right and the wrong way to love somebody? Niggas was trying to say that Joe is dead. I'm in that Beamer like, I'm right in the wrong way. Like, we was ignorant, man. everybody was everybody was ignorant but we gotta pray for the future and do as much as we can I love the way you holding yourself up positive because a lot of people you know they fall to that peer pressure of they gotta be hood they gotta be with the board like I don't I really personally don't understand right rich rich rich dudes right Right.

1:29:43Let's just say the industry. You filthy rich and you're still in the gang. You're a billionaire in the gang throwing it up. I'm trying to figure it out. Like, what is it? Is that the street cred? Is that the this, the that? Like, I'll be like, yo, you have no business. Me, just that, Joe. I'm looking. I know Chicago is much different. Yeah, definitely. Because you born there, you are who you are. Yeah, for sure. Trust me, I know Chicago, not as good as you, but I know Chicago is like, pick a side. It is what it is. If you play the middle, that's the most dangerous thing to play in Chicago. What?

1:30:18Hardest part to play is right. You can't even. Highline of the middle. You can't play the middle. Yeah. But what I'm saying to you, I mean, everybody. I mean, everybody in Chicago got to make a choice. Yeah. Even if you the nicest guy. Definitely. You got to make a choice because that's the way that shit is. My thing is, why are you a millionaire, a billionaire, rappers? I don't want to call them out because I love all of them. Yeah, for sure. But I still don't understand why they throwing it up and saying they this. I don't get it. I think it's smart like you. I see Sosa got out of there. I see you got out of there.

1:30:56Even Dirk got out of there. For sure. You got to get out of there. You got to get out of there. it's not even about what they'll do to you. It's about what you would do to somebody. Exactly. I mean. It is.

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1:35:16And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King. Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Goodbye. Puerto Rico make Chicago look like a walking park. Shoot you 150 times, then take your watch. I'm telling you. No, I know that. Puerto Rico. I ain't gonna get the brain matter off. Listen, my brother, James, do me a favor, James. Go look up Puerto Rico violence. I'm going to tell you this shit. Let him talk. I was on the phone with a nigga, and I was fucking with this artist that I did a song with in Puerto Rico.

1:35:59I'd never seen nothing like this in my life. We on FaceTime. Bro, it was like a block and a half, like two blocks from a nigga's head. They probably had like 600 guns outside. Never seen nothing like that in my life. Let me explain something to you. They hit choppers and sticks. They killing you first. They ask questions later. They showing me the floor. The whole two blocks. It was probably full of guns, bro. Like, literally, I swear to God, I'm not even exaggerating, bro. Niggas probably had, like, five, six hundred guns, bro. I'm dead serious. Like, stacked on top of each other. Listen, I don't know why.

1:36:29Two blocks, they showing me this shit. The video, FaceTime. I'm on FaceTime. We on FaceTime, like, two minutes straight, just showing me guns. Yo, the reggae tone dudes. Every last one of them. Worship and love Puerto Rico. but they living in Miami Orlando because that shit over there I'm telling you in Puerto Rico you think Fat Joe tough you see Fat Joe walk around New York and the Rolls Royce and all that I'm a choir boy in Puerto Rico I go over there I'm like I'm gonna have the cheapest watch I'm gonna have a fucking not even that psycho watch nigga like this sit going guys nigga told me the other day two thieves Feeve, where you at?

1:37:15Feeve was in Puerto Rico with one of the wildest little niggas. He put him on the phone. The little nigga said, yo, we know you don't come to the hood in Puerto Rico, Joe. We love you. We worship you. Come. You are so safe here, Joe. I swear to God, these guys will die. They worship you. I was like, okay. Feeve, you were one of the toughest niggas in Puerto Rico running the whole shit. A free chimmy? he got on the FaceTime with me and said Joe you don't understand how much we love you here we worship you we know you don't come to the projects in the hood out here guess what I know be seeing me there no I love you too but you I'm not you gotta get out of there for sure how you was saying like even when it kind of like bro so so that nigga was smart bro.

1:38:09Like that nigga, I ain't gonna say was, he is smart, bro. Shout out to Sosa. Shout out to Sosa. He used to hit me. He ain't hit me in a while since he got a couple more of him. So check in, man. Sosa Rich is a motherfucker, man. That nigga got an Instagram account for his cars. Oh God, like that nigga. Bro, to go to this shit, he made a decision to get the fuck on. Gotta go. Gotta get away from that shit, bro. You gotta just get a new for me. You know why? Everybody was a great decision. For sure. He did it first, though. Hold on, let me say something. You got to be brave because they're going to be all this and that.

1:38:42All out of there. Fat Joe moved to Miami 20-something years ago. One night, I'm in Madison Square Garden. I'm headlining. And I'm in my green room. And I sit up on the fucking sink and I look and I'm like, holy shit, these are all killers. Like, everybody there with me was a fucking killer. You were going to say he sat on the sink and it broke. No. That's three fat Joes ago. But let me explain something to you. I looked at them. Three fat Joes ago. And that was one of the main reasons why I got out of New York. I was actually too powerful. Yeah. And, you know, everybody trying to prove to the big man that this, if I'd have sneezed at a dude, it had got real ugly in there.

1:39:27Dating me. I realized, and I said, oh, I got to get out of here. Yeah. Start in Miami and wear silk shirts, and they think I'm a nice guy. For sure. I never had a fight. I never had a one-on-one in Miami. I'm a nice, law-abiding citizen. I'm in Cipriani over there, over here. This shit, so I had to get up out of here so I know the difference. You got to go, you got to get away because also, a dude will force you to hurt him. They force you. I think there should be a law. Hold up. The law is out of my brain. Hold up, yo, G. There's a law. There should be a law where, hey, if you killed the guy, you killed him.

1:40:05You got to do time, 10, 15 years. But if you knew this guy was killing the whole neighborhood, he was trying to extort me, shooting at my mother, this, this, this, and I killed him, I had no choice. Give me 15. Give me 10. 15 years, 10 years, not life. Give me five. Yeah, five. He needed to get out of there. But the point is, this guy, you know how many guys might have went in front of that judge and said, your honor, he forced me. Like, it was like, this guy won't stop. Yeah, no. He's forcing me. Like, bro, I seen some dudes on some dudes. Yeah. They forced them. There's no way around it. There's no way around it.

1:40:43He forced you everywhere you go. He got a problem. He wanted, he this, he this, that. Yo, we can't live. Somebody got to go. Yeah. Somebody got to go. Now, I think that should be almost like a body of passion or something. A body of passion. They're having. It just don't work. Nah, no bullshit. They got those. They just. Body of passion. They got those, crack. You can turn out the weight. What you get for that? You get under 25. Yo, can we listen to some tracks? Let's listen to some tracks. Let's listen to some tracks. I was even talking to fucking comment about some gang shit. You can't come from Chicago and not talk about the real shit.

1:41:24You can't. You can't. You can't. For real, for real. Before we even play some shit, I'm going to say, bro, to the capacity of the shit that we, like the shit we been through and the shit we experienced like just being here alone is a blessing you feel what I'm saying just being able to be in this type of room and have these kind of conversations be alive is a blessing God is great niggas don't realize like I don't even know how many times I got shot at you feel what I'm saying like shit like that niggas can't say that bro like I done got shot at so many fucking times and I'm still here you feel me like that shit is a blessing bro I'm telling you you know I wrote a song two days ago man and I said I got shot at a hundred times back in the day.

1:42:04Yeah, a bullet. Look, you hear my manager? A bullet went through my hat before. Like, my hair is hot. Back in the day. Like, you know that shit. That's what it is. A bullet went through my hat. Nigga, I had a fucking Christmas hat on the shit that you're stocking, and the bullet went through the Christmas stocking, nigga. You talking to the wrong guy. We beat a nigga on the floor. You ever been married? Listen, I've never been murdered. Me either. Listen. That's a good one. Let me tell you something. Yo, that's the top five dead or a lot. We beat this guy up. Big motherfucker, right? Big guy. There was 20 of us.

1:42:47They didn't like him. We beat him up for no reason. The club, it was called the Octagon. Not on 34th Street. It's on 33rd. You know how long that block is? So we come out. This guy was big, right? But we beat him up. when I come outside, he's outside. Guy's outside. He got like, do your four dudes with him now, right? He immediately pull that hammer out. I dare you. Now, when you leave here, it's two minutes away, to drive, yo, Kay, drive through 33rd Street with an octagon. What was that? 11th Ave? 11th Ave and 10th. And I dare you to see how long that block is. That nigga was letting that shit go.

1:43:32Oh shit Oh That shit went through this The fucking Yeah what is that Stocking The Christmas hat This nigga that block is so long You can't turn You can't run You can't You just gotta Straight up Let's hear some music Nah man You just hear some music I got some shit I wanna play man Real quick man Let's go into If the first one Play yeah play this Play Fallen Soldiers man Y 'all gotta hear this shit You definitely gotta hear this shit kid Finky Crocker that shit

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1:44:25Since Juice WRLD died nigga I ain't got nothing left Since Pop Smoke died, nigga We ain't got nothing left Since King Von died, nigga We ain't got nothing left Heart torn, cold sweat Tears fall, case oppressive Block on me for protection Homies just a couple left Falling so much Vito Kobe capping rocks Down on my block So the war never stopped I was still a teen But I already seen a lot Told me I'd be stuck in my hood Till I rot Knew I reached my dreams Cops told me I would not Spit my first rap and rail told me I should drop Dead broke, no way I'm making bail if I got caught But I ain't give a fuck, I still let my window down a shot I was going through a lot, we all been spinning for my partners Losing to my hood, but I kept hurting my mama Had to go on missions, but I really wanted commas And it didn't mean shit after we did it, if I'm honest Blood made us vicious, I was swimming with piranhas Murder after murder, now this bitch feel like a sauna I was played Osama till we called him like Obama Couldn't show emotion, now I'm holding on to the drama Fuck, made it out the trenches Now I live in Cali Tuck Bulletproof the truck, so I don't even gotta duck Lost my brothers, felt like I was running out of luck Paid for over 20 funerals, still ain't run out of bucks Got my life plus on millions up, that's a plus Gripping tight, will I up and bust?

1:45:39That's a must On site, if you got the flux, that was us Pass walk, went off my waist to keep us safe Cause I trust Since Baby D died, nigga I ain't got none of love Since Big Wim died, nigga I ain't got nothing left Since Lil' Greg died, nigga I ain't got nothing left Play the second verse real quick Play the second verse real quick, man Let the second verse play, man Let this shit play through real quick Let this shit play through real quick Since Big, wet died, nigga I ain't got nothing left Break that shit Since Lil' Greg died, nigga I ain't got nothing left Heart torn, cold sweats Tears fall, can't suppress them Glock on me for protection Homies, just a couple left, falling soldiers I was really in this shit, standing clip in the state I can't be a hypocrite, I was first nigga in the whip Swear to God, we ain't going to sleep, this is a homicide We'd do this shit every day like it's Ramadan Put it on my mama, I ain't never played out of bounds If you cross the line, we'd make this bitch the Columbine Lil' Herb been signing on the dotted line You would never catch me unless you chasing dollar signs I'd have spent a hundred thousand a lot of times Hallelujah for my kids, but the pride of mine Told me that I came from dark days, I ain't lying Million dollars worth of J cause we gotta shine Figgins stand on the trigger cause I miss my nigga Keepin' extra 30 shots cause I shippin' with him Checkin' in my seat, I understand incidentals Need collateral just in case cause I coulda did him Uh Goin' on a hit, you better not have no fuckin' feel If it go left, you better not cry no fuckin' tear Cops get behind us, you better not lookin' to rip We gone Tillers ain't complainin' about the trench, we strong Soon it's a lil' herd, go legit, we on Finally got rich, but it took mad long Well, I'm from everybody sing sad songs, for real Since Timo died, nigga, I ain't got nothing left Since Mad Max died, nigga, I ain't got nothing left Since Big Squad died, nigga, I ain't got nothing left Heart torn, cold sweat, PS4, K-Suppressor Glock on me for protection Homies just a couple left, falling soldiers Since Chico died, nigga, I ain't got nothing left

1:47:58Yo, Kiss, I think this premeditated. This man came up in here. He came on some bullshit, huh? You ain't no good for me. You spend$100 ,000 every week. I'm trying to find the fucking Shoppers Anonymous. This guy spent$100 ,000. A bunch of Shoppers Anonymous. Proud of mine. And let me tell you something, that's the best record I heard from you. And I've been listening to your shit. That shit right there. Woo! And you got some shit canon, man. This guy canon, huh? No, big bro. That was strategic for sure. Big bro Kong, like. Yeah, but the shit you spit is legend. It's legend. It's legend. You did your thing, man.

1:48:40And let me tell you something about this show and this couch right here. When we play shit, that shit go on another level. You know that. Motherfuckers tuned into that shit right there. You know that, man. I ain't even trying to... I don't want to be a bot. I don't want to be a bug. Play one more of them. Yeah, we need that. Play that other stuff. Go to the moon. Play one more. You got to hear this. One chance. One chance. One chance, man. Play one chance. This nigga making me feel poor out here. Spend a hundred thousand a bunch of times. I'm like, God damn. One chance. It's the song master. Yeah, it's the master of the song.

1:49:15That shit was hard, man. I beat all this shit, but I still carry women for real, man. That pain, man. I'm talking about sleep paralysis. Waking up out your sleep back to back because you having nightmares. Had about four of them today. Couldn't even go to sleep for an hour straight. There's no battle. I ain't lying to you. I ain't running from this shit. I ain't tucking my tail. I ain't ducking from no ox. Only ducking the cell. I swear to God, I was 12. Started throwing up L's. By the time I'm 14, one of my brothers got killed. Ain't what else for me to do but get the fuck in the field. Couldn't make my mama cry, started clutching his steel He got a dub, I was just a teen, fucking with Gil Already did 15, he like, fuck his appeal What you know about old guns, jamming up on the drill What you know about using bleach, cause you got blood on your nails What you know about getting shot at 30 times and live What you know about coming back, cause you got something to sell What you know about taking risks, got a kite in the mail What you know about praying to God, still might go to hell What you know about anything, what you know about dope lives Gotta serve 20 fiends What you know about seeing real vivid shit, but it's a dream.

1:50:16Just to get rich, I had to shine a penny clean. Every day on hits, we made movies, many scenes. Really had knowledge, could have been plenty things. Could have been a lawyer or a doctor or a scholar. Ended up in robin' jeans, poppin' up my collar. Ended up on setting night for asses, chasin' dollars. Ended up disappointin' my mother and my father. Then I chose rap after that, start makin' commas. For real. 2025, nigga worth 30 mil. I know how it happened, though. I had love for my brothers, couldn't hop in traffic though All summer long, we was letting automatics go Had to force my real dawg to take other avenues It ain't about this, we gettin' money out of music Fuck gang shit, gotta bring, gotta use it And you can't lose it You get one chance in it You got one chance in this shit You get one chance Can't be with the double dance in this shit You got one life, one niche You get one shot, don't miss it I don't give a fuck what they said to you Ain't no second chance in this shit Had to make a way cause I be damn unstatistic Franchise glare from the stands and the benches Trying hard, that's me, fuck feet and inches Always chasing riches, give a fuck about bitches Niggas out here tripping, freelancing and shit Put the fam first cause ain't no friends in this shit Trauma in my heart, I'm still paying for this shit I done really lost my real mans to this shit I already lost my little brother to this shit Every time I'm talking to my grams, it get wicked PTSD, I got a drink just to kick it Praying I don't crash, cause the land worth a ticket So much bloodshed, probably none that could fix it Fuck it, then I'm ridein' till I'm diein', ain't no mixin' If we go to war, up the score, we keep blissin' President, I innocent, he fall like I'm mixin' You get it?

1:52:02You get one chance in it You got one chance in this shit Only one chance Can't be with the devil Dancing and shit You got one life, one niche You get one shot, don't miss I don't give a fuck What they saying to you Ain't no second chance in this shit

1:52:26Appreciate it I am Steve, man Appreciate this shit Love you, big man Woo Good luck This ain't that? That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for G Herb. Little Herb is the out. Little Herb out right now. All platforms, the hottest shit out right now. Thank y 'all, bro. I love y 'all, man. I appreciate y 'all. I grew up my whole life watching you niggas, bro. Hotest shit out right now. Straight. Yo, Little Herb and all that. No ID. Wyclef. Juice WRLD. I gotta listen to this shit thoroughly. you're inspiring me right now shout out to Maud Deet their album is fire shout out to Big L just dropped an album of collaboration shout out to my brother Royster59 going through some medical issues but he gonna be back yo Royce for real yeah yeah he executive produced the Big L I know he did but he's going through some hell shit yo Royce I love you man thank you for everything you ever did for me man I just want you to know that you're a beautiful guy man you always took care of me I love you I'm gonna pray for you I'm gonna put you in my prayer package and um that album Lil Herb boy I need that shit ASAP that shit crazy out there thank you shout out to my boy EP bringing Herb through you know what I mean he don't get his flowers enough EP I love you baby yeah EP what's up we out of here let's take some flicks

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From the publisher

Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Chicago rapper G Herbo, fresh off the release of his latest album 'Lil Herb.' Herbo breaks down his career and the project, which boasts production from No I.D. features from the likes of Wyclef Jean, Anderson .Paak, and Jeremih. The interview ranges from hilarious to insightful with Fat Joe telling a story about Kanye West calling him to stop a Chicago gang war, Herbo breaking down Chief Keef's brilliance, all three agreeing that most of the problems that come up in the hood start as disputes over women, and discussing the legacy left by the gone-too-soon rap star Juice WRLD.

3:00 - Joe talks about a guest that cancelled

13:00 - Working with No I.D. on 'Lil Herb'

18:45 - Joe serving glizzies on Thanksgiving?

22:30 - Shout out Kocky Ka

39:30 - Joe's crazy Chicago stories

52:00 - Wyclef's genius & Juice WRLD legacy

1:04:00 - Hood wars always start over women

1:16:00 - Jadakiss' big family & childhood fight stories

1:23:30 - People losing SNAP benefits

1:36:45 - Chief Keef

1:40:00 - Herbo plays "Fallen Soldiers" & "1 Chance"

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