Ghostface Killah on 'Supreme Clientele 2' + Wu-Tang Clan & Raekwon stories

26 Aug 2025 · 1 h · 20 chapters

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In short

Ghostface Killah discusses Supreme Clientele 2—why it took 25 years, the album’s sound/attitude, and the meaning of its skits and themes—while also trading Wu-Tang Clan and Raekwon origin stories, touring/industry memories, and debates about social media and “corny” behavior.

Guests

Ghostface Killah (Wu-Tang Clan rapper; reflects on aggressive vocal delivery, skits, and street/hood upbringing). Fat Joe (hosts/guest; talks birthday-party chaos, Apollo win story, Wu-Tang history, and social-media beef warnings). Jada (Fat Joe’s co-host; joins banter). Joe Crack and Jada are mentioned as show hosts; Angie Martinez appears only as an ad voice.

Key claims

Supreme Clientele 2 was held back until the right state of mind and the right beats; skit “pause” reflects how language/pausing changed since their era; Wu-Tang chemistry with Raekwon came from shared backgrounds and long-term teaming; social media rewards corny behavior and “viral” soul-selling.

Notable examples

CIA-style “evaporating” album access story; “pause” skit built around studio interruptions; Barbados trip leading to writing/recording; Apollo streak win despite not being a “great rapper” then; fake $100 bill promo and splitting $500 among many Wu-Tang members.

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Celebrating Fat Joe's Birthday and Party Stories

3:19 to 6:30

The hosts share anecdotes about a recent birthday party for Fat Joe, including wild moments and guest interactions.

“Ladies and gentlemen, welcome our brother, my brother, the God, Ghostface, Killer in the building.”

Discussion on Wu-Tang Clan and New Album

6:30 to 13:20

A deep dive into Ghostface Killah's new album 'Supreme Clientele 2' and reflections on Wu-Tang Clan's impact.

“So everybody's in the houses, they all billionaires and everybody's rich other than the normal family.”

Pause Culture in Hip-Hop

13:20 to 14:00

The hosts discuss the concept of 'pause' in hip-hop language and its relevance in today's culture.

“It was very, very, was that like on purpose?”

Discussion on Album Skit and Pauses

14:00 to 16:55

Ghostface discusses the inspiration behind a skit on his album regarding the concept of 'pauses' in hip-hop culture.

“Let's talk about, he got a skit on the album.”

Generational Differences in Humor

16:55 to 18:58

Ghostface shares a humorous experience at a family party highlighting how younger generations perceive older traditions.

“I ain't no Brooklyn Chop House's got a daughter.”

Growing Up in Stapleton

18:58 to 22:36

Ghostface reminisces about his childhood experiences growing up in Stapleton, discussing the challenges and the fun aspects of his youth.

“Stop subscribing to the bullshit podcast.”

Growing Up in Stapleton

24:10 to 25:02

Ghostface reminisces about his childhood experiences growing up in Stapleton, discussing the challenges and the fun aspects of his youth.

“Chat GPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps.”

Growing Up in Stapleton

25:07 to 25:38

Ghostface reminisces about his childhood experiences growing up in Stapleton, discussing the challenges and the fun aspects of his youth.

“Any game you can find on the floor in Vegas, you can play it on Moto.”

Reflections on Wu-Tang's Early Days

25:38 to 28:00

Ghostface reflects on the early days of Wu-Tang Clan, discussing struggles and the evolution of their music career.

“I told Method Man this on the interview I did with him on the TV show, but I got to tell you the same story.”

Social Media and Authenticity

28:00 to 29:20

Exploration of social media's impact on authenticity and character.

“Like, it's like, I just want to know what the fuck you getting out of this shit.”
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Cinematic Influences from Childhood

29:20 to 30:20

Discussion about childhood experiences with film and its cultural impact.

“You know we all into these flicks and all that and that's like I happened to come across that flick one day.”

Karate and Hip Hop Culture

30:20 to 32:20

Linking martial arts influences in hip hop with personal anecdotes.

“He used to come to the school with the trophies like he was a karate king.”

Insuring Body Parts for Value

32:20 to 33:40

A humorous take on insuring body parts as a sign of wealth and lifestyle.

“And then rappers always had a, I don't know, man, some shit.”

Preparing for 'Supreme Clientele 2'

33:40 to 40:00

Details about the creative process and expectations for the new album.

“Or is that going to be the joint I was talking about at the Garden?”

Birthdays and Party Expectations

40:00 to 42:00

A funny recounting of organizing a birthday party and initial fears.

“You're finally releasing a sequel to Supreme Clientele.”

Fat Joe's Birthday Party Experience

42:00 to 46:20

Listen to Joe share a humorous account of his fear leading up to a surprise-packed birthday party.

“My man at Fournier Bakery who made it, Marco and his girl.”

Apollo Theater Memories

46:20 to 48:25

Discover Ghostface's unexpected journey to fame at the Apollo and the emotions it evoked.

“This is Angie Martinez from IRL Podcast, here to tell you about something new and delicious from McDonald's.”

Chemistry with Raekwon

49:01 to 56:00

Joe and Ghostface discuss their camaraderie and creative process with Raekwon.

“You and Ray, how did you and Ray create that chemistry?”

Reflections on Performance and Nostalgia

56:00 to 1:02:31

Ghostface reminisces about memorable performances and their significance.

“But yeah, but other than that, when we come together for the cause.”

Industry Politics and the Music Business

1:02:31 to 1:10:16

A candid discussion on the politics of the music industry and personal experiences.

“See, that fourth was like 15, 16 years old too.”
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2:35Don't take my word for it. Try it out for yourself. For a limited time, while supplies last at participating McDonald's. Did you ever look at the whole clan and say, yo, how are we going to make money with all these dudes? Nah, I never looked at it because I knew he was going to make it. No doubt.

3:03Yeah, yeah, what up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada Show. And I got to repeat myself, every one of our episodes, every show is legendary, iconic, and today is just that. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome our brother, my brother, the God, Ghostface, Killer in the building. Make some noise. Yo, yo. What up? What up? Starks, what's up, baby? Ain't nothing, Kane. Ain't nothing. Ghost. Joey Taylor, baby. Let's go. We here. We here. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We also got to give a big special happy birthday to my brother, my business partner, Joey Crack.

3:51Make some noise to my brother. Crack. Happy physical. Happy physical. I've been here at a nice party. Another year, baby. I got invited. I was working like him. I had to get the bag, you know what I mean? So I get him a nice gift. But I didn't get invited. I got three invites. You know how good I feel? Because I never get invited. I quote three of them. You invited me. Charlene invited me Rich invited me Yo they was just inviting niggas to my house They ain't even know You know I threw the shit in my house right And so I never invite people to my house I never you know my house Gotta be special If you don't know Fat Joe you walk in my house It look like a mafia The flowers It's like a mafia The flowers is so fucking You kind of my shit You know a mall boss, Sean Gotti, live in this shit.

4:45You come up in there. And so my man, Urshan Flower Box, he put it together. He came down from Miami and do a record. You know, he do what he do. The point is, if you ate lobster, you had 20 lobsters. If you ate fried chicken, you had 50 fried chickens. You ate Ace of Spades. You drank Ace of Spades. If you ate Ace of Spades. They wouldn't spot. They wouldn't stop. This shit was Tiffany. The$5 ,000 in a bottle, it wouldn't. people are like martini it's just it's too much this is my watch my brother Rich Jibaba gave me this shit for my birthday one of my friends every year we're still waiting for Mayer's cheap ass but every year one of my guys buy me a watch this ain't no regular shit no I'm telling you the truth every year somebody I don't know if they agree I don't know what it is yo this is your year but somebody steps up with a watch every birthday so Rista Bob I love you my brother but listen man we up in there man the cops come to my house five times they come you know Mr.

5:54Joe this this that I said well you know once a year we never do nothing I know Mr. Joe this that every time they left we crank that fucking music so loud we deserved all five all five Right? So we went so James, to your credit at a certain time all my Jewish friends started leaving Steve Rifkin Jeff Beecher No, because it's important to have a Jewish friend when you fucking up the whole neighborhood You need a Jewish representative Final straw is send a Jewish guy up there, right? So we send my guy up there Right? So everybody's in the houses, they all billionaires and everybody's rich other than the normal family.

6:42So everybody's somebody, the owner of Airbnb, the owner of this, so I sent my guy up there for the fifth trip, and he comes down and he goes, party's over. Shut it down. I said, yo, how do I finally do the big dog Jewish guy to go to me? I said, yo, they not trying to get shit out of me. But of course, the only problem I got with my wife and her friends, they don't know how to stop. Right? So it's over, my man. You done drank 10 ,000 shits you smoked. Everybody's fucked up. It's fucking over. Party inside. I said, what? They got S &S. Shout out to Surge. Shout out to Ted Smoove. They bring the equipment in.

7:29S &S is DJing. Your man Jim Jones sitting over. Like, Jim Jones, he's my brother and we all love him he's like an anti-social he's the only guy coming to your birthday party at ice grill the whole party we sit in your gym we love you we fucking worship you Jim his wife having the best time they playing all that I want to thank you and he like wow what you get out of gym every now and then cause you know did I tell you about my outfit Yo. Yo, yo. Yo. Yo. What you gave him, crack? Boy. What you gave him? Boy. Oh, boy. I had this Bottega linen. It was too much. Okay? Too much. Like, a guy like Jim Jones, he started laughing.

8:21I went to see how it? He started laughing. Jim Jones started laughing every time I passed him. Like, yo, this guy too extra. Like, I'm coming through with the Bottega. This is a different kind of outfit. this is Grammy ready this was a problem here right this shit was like too fucking much right and it's over the sneaker you can't even see the sneaker so I'm turning around and then at a certain point I get so drunk and it's my house right so I say yo man fuck this suit I'm tired of it already I wore it out so I go upstairs right y 'all know I got the crazy elevator the elevator the elevator playing Marb Deep shook ones in the fucking elevator, right?

9:03So I go upstairs. I go really quick and change. I come back down, but I just grabbed anything, right? But the shit happened to be fly. Like some shorts and then this jacket, this graffiti. I don't know if it was, but let's, but when I come down, Jim Jones started laughing. Like, yo, this nigga, man, he tried to stutter. I really wasn't trying to stunk, but the outfit happened to be fly. Right. Look, we at the time of our lives. I'm still drinking a bunch of water. Because I'm drunk. Replenish, replenish, replenish. I drink New Year's Eve. I drink on my birthday party. And it's two days later, man.

9:41And I'm still drunk. I feel like drunk. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever felt like drunk two days later? Shit is still like woofy right now. Yeah. You need two days worth of rest. Warning today. We're resting. We working. Yeah. But let me tell you something, man. Today, because let's be clear. Joe Cracker living legend an icon Jadakiss top 5 dead or alive but when you see another superhero a man in the lane of himself we barely got to see your face when y 'all came out we didn't even fucking know you could have been ghost face cousin we never knew

10:32and I'm gonna admit something I'm gonna admit something I think I'm the realest rapper ever lived if I keep it a buck with you besides Tupac I really believe that but I want no beef with Wu-Tang Clan Wu-Tang's for the children every year I post y 'all they got some shit Wu-Tang for president I got some shit I don't want no smoke with the Klan. Yeah. I mean, you guys, what you mean to hip-hop, man, it's just no way to really, really explain your presence from you and the Klan. And this new song, bro, this new song was so flagrant. I think I played it for you. I think we heard it one time. I listened to the album today.

11:17No, I listened to the album too. Yes, sir. It makes you feel like you in a park jam. Yeah, and Phil's doing it for him. It had me thinking about British Walkers. All that. It had me thinking. Yo, you got that alligator wallabies. Let me tell you something. Every time I see a wallaby, I feel like smacking a nigga with a wallaby. It just feels like an accessible smacking. What is it? Like, wallaby is like a salt miner. It is, yo. Like, if you smack a nigga with a wallaby, it ain't like hitting him with a microphone or your phone. It feel like a wallaby. Bang. Like, enough dudes done got smacked with a wallaby.

11:56Right. Supreme clientele, too, man. What was it? No, that's what's up. Salute to Mass Appeal. Salute to Ray. Salute to Nas. Salute to Peter. Salute to the whole staff. Y 'all mobbing up over there and just dropping these missiles. Right. The next one is Supreme clientele, too, which you let the people know, because I got it. I got it one listen. they sent us a CIA email that give you the CIA I'm in a man cave with my son cause I'm like yo I'm gonna roll up I'm gonna check Ghost album out properly try to send it to my son I just said hell no your phone only tried to call my man back we listened to it shit was crazy though figured that out right yeah it is none of that I tried to tell him, you put it on him.

12:50Nah, daddy got to go from your phone. I said, I like that. They protecting it. You got to protect the dog. So after you listen to it, it ain't play no more, right? No. Yeah, it's how I go. Shit evaporates after you... The whole shit is gone. You know, you don't sound like normal ghost in a way like I felt like angrier vibes or like your voice was like meaner. It was very strong. It was very, very, was that like on purpose? Nah. I mean, you know, sometimes you're aggressive on tracks and like you said earlier, when we was building, like, you know, certain tracks, you know. Bring that out of you.

13:35Yeah, exactly. But it was more or less, if it was like that, it was probably, I know the first track, I'm aggressive. You know what I mean? But the rest of them. The fourth disciple, Georgie Porgie. The Georgie Porgie, my shit. The skits is amazing. Yo, yo, hold up, hold up. We finally fixed it for the young dudes with the pause. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Hold up, everybody ain't hear the album. Let's talk about, he got a skit on the album. Talking about pause. Like the part when we grew up, there was no pause. No pause. When we grew up, there was a lot of shit that is here today.

14:15that wasn't the rap. Well, explain that to me. Why you felt like you wanted to do a song about Paws? Because I'm in the studio one day, right? First of all, I'm here at Paws all day. Like, I'm just talking. I'm talking. I'm like, yo. Man, it's a Paws. It's a Paws. It's a Paws. I'm in there like one verse. I'm in there. I'm like, yo, nigga. What did I say? Some, I think it was a track with Nas, something like that. One of them joints. And I'm like, yo, I had to blow him. I'm like, but it was like, you know, we met back in the days when you blew him. He was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Are you blown?

14:45Yeah. That was pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. And it's like engineer like, yo, and he young though. Yeah. So it's like, he pausing me down. But I'm like, yo, you taking me out of my element. Yeah. Like, yo, but I know what the fuck I mean, bro. You know what I mean? You know too. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, why? So, you know, we did a skit on it. Did a skit on that, right? Because I wanted to bring that up. You know what I mean? So it's like, yo, had my man, Mr. Commodore come in and, you know, we went to work on the dope, you know what I mean? He a funny name. Yeah, he funny though. You had man pausing.

15:18You did this. Whatever he said, eat tall salad. Whatever he said. Yeah, just tall salad. You don't make right balances. So I'm like, oh shit, yeah, you right though. Forgot about that. But it wasn't a pause because back then tall salad was like a fresh salad. Fresh salad. This is fucking bullshit. What's going on right now? is full of shit. If I tell you I like a fucking glizzy, you know what the fuck I mean. Y 'all trying to act like a poor. That ain't in there. That's the one that ain't in there. Hold up. Y 'all saying two different things. No, we're saying the same shit. You know I mean a hot dog.

16:03What are you supposed to say? Like I'm gay or some shit? Where's the pause, though? I think all my gay friends You have a gay arm. Realize this nigga not gay. Why you keep pausing me for eating a hot dog, though? Shit out of control. Yo. Yo, it's out of control. I'm just, yo, I'm. It's different, though. Don't put those under the same hood, bro. It's the same shit. It's wild. We taking it too far, though. That's it. It's like, you know what I mean? Bro. Man, it's like, yo, come on. You know what I mean, bro. You know what I'm saying? It's like. This is what I'm saying. You know what? And the kids throwing it down right away.

16:42No, no, they trying to make us feel old. No, in my birthday party, my nephews come, Angie Martinez's sons, they all 1920. Nico. My daughter's there. Nico's there. Fucking Brooklyn Chop House's daughters and all them in there. Look what they say. Brooklyn Chop House's daughters. They said, look what they say. Right, your daughter. I ain't no Brooklyn Chop House's got a daughter. You got two daughters. Yeah. Well, Brooklyn Chop House got two daughters. Shout out to you, man. I love you. And, Nicky, listen, but what I'm trying to tell you is I hear them. They come. I think I'm fly. I just told you I had to take his shit on.

17:19Fly his party. Shit looking crazy. They, like, keep saying, yo, every young person that come, welcome to the unction. Welcome to the unction. Oh, they called you shit a unction? Yo, Nick. I ain't hear that one. Man, where's the flags? I ain't hear that one. I got to juggle these shit. Give me the flags, nigga. A hundred of them. Let me tell you, this is when you so old you don't realize they're fucking snapping on me. They calling shit the unction. Where all the uncles is at and shit. I ain't never heard that one before. Welcome to the unction, my nigga. I'm like, yo, the unction. When I figure it out, I'm like, yo, the unction.

18:04They're like, yo, we uncles. We old niggas. I said, yo, guess what? Get ready for a good dose of four hours of old school music. We not playing that young bullshit right now. Right. Y 'all better get ready to two-step. We not. Welcome to the unction. The unction. For real, real. This shit crazy are these kids. But listen, Jada. What's up, baby? I'm looking at the king of skits. And I just had an epiphany. Yo, Ghost, if we had a skit for the Joe and Jada podcast, what would it sound like if Ghostface did the skit for the Joe and Jada podcast. Oh, shit. You won't relive this shit. Now, I need you to do it.

18:46Let's all work together on it. All right, let's go. You know what I mean? Hey, yo. The fuck is all these other motherfucking... Yo, you get this shit, man? You heard that shit overnight, man? This nigga's podcast is bullshit, man. Nah, they ratings is real low. Wait, no. Nah, they don't listen, bro. No pause on that shit. Nah, man. Fuck all that, man. we taking over this bullshit man anybody say something we go inside they had shit anybody

19:1415 million Puerto Ricans 3500 30 million Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in this motherfucker yo word the mother these niggas need to catch they need to get the fucker they need to be laid out in the purple rug and shit Take them to Staten Island Ocean. Fuck they ratings. Fuck they ratings. Fuck they ratings. Fuck they view. Stop subscribing to the bullshit podcast. Word to mother happy. Fire on these niggas. Word to mother happy. Word. Uh-huh. Fire on these things. You got like five gem stars waiting lined up. Oh, yeah, they ain't even got cables working off the fire sticks and all that, son. that shit is niggas.

20:05Yeah, right? Oh, shit. Niggas fucked up out here. You know what I'm saying? They ain't even got cable. They working on the fast. This is not a fire stick, people. Don't do the fire stick. No, I'm not dissing. Man, we did a fucking skit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he dead? Yeah, is he dead? Yeah. This shit. Yeah. We got ghost, the king of the skits in this motherfucker. We got to get one off. Yeah, nah. It's mad ways you can go with these skits, bro. Mad ways Mad ways Anybody ever fuck up the skits? Um Damn I ain't do skits in a minute though We did them on this Maybe even this Even this album we on right now We did it a couple like Maybe like two times You know what I mean?

20:47But uh Not like that though Not like that Legendary What was it like growing up at Staples? Because I was over there like last summer They walked me through the whole project Yeah yeah yeah yeah Like go You should live with me Yeah, yeah. Nah, it was just like any other, you know, project, you know, games and all that, you know, old school, old school catches bombing us when we younger. You know what I mean? A lot of fights, though. A lot of fights. You know, that's where you learn how to fight at. Especially my project. You know what I mean? Robbing niggas and shit, doing all that shit. But, you know, we're just on some real life.

21:24You know, after a while, you get into the drug game and, you know, you start selling your little nicks and dimes. You got on whack, niggas. You want to know what's crazy? The white people in here who are, you know, they're our friends, our family. That's not a normal upbringing for them. We just went from like, yo, fights, and then you know when we sold the dad wrong, niggas had that lean with it, the sock with it, and y 'all looking like, what the fuck? I miss it. In Walker's University. That's the hood, though. That's the hood, man. We come up in that. I mean, I'm not bigging it up, though, but I love it.

21:58I'm just saying, I'm looking at my people. Nah, I'm just saying for the people, though. But, you know. But, yeah, but just like any other kid. You know, we was, but back then, it was more easy for us at the same time. All that stuff was there. Because, you know, we play games, though. You know what I mean? These kids don't play games. Yeah. You know what I mean? Skellies and all that shit. Skellies, yeah. Whatever. You still did what you did, but you still had fun, though. Like, all right, boom. You know what I mean? But, yeah, that was it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Road that hip hop was always there.

22:24We had that wave. even before I was in Stapleton. I was in West Brighton first. You know what I mean? West Brighton pool. You know what I mean? That's where I sit at Mighty Healthy and shit. So I was over there. Then I moved to Stapleton. Oh, I like that. But yeah, that's where my base was at in Stapleton. Like most of my years and getting locked up and doing this, going right to Rikers and you know what I mean? And shit like that though. But yeah, man. It was the hood, man. I had fun in it.

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25:43I told Method Man this on the interview I did with him on the TV show, but I got to tell you the same story. What's that? I think I had the first show with Wu-Tang ever. Not first show of Wu-Tang in Manhattan. I think it was Club Muse or some shit like that. And I performed with y 'all. Flojo was out at the same time. and I might have got$500 and then I seen them give y 'all the same$500. It was like 13 of you guys. I don't know. I was like, yo, this ain't going to... I said, this ain't going to never make it. It's 13 of them splitting the$500. Remember, it was like, yo, we went to McDonald's, we ate our shit, this, this, this.

26:30Did you ever look at the whole clan and say, yo, how are we going to make money with all these dudes? nah I never looked at it because I knew he was gonna make it no doubt you know what I mean I knew he was gonna make it you know what I mean so I seen it like a 27th zenith I was like yo it was times we was doing promo and I remember going to Texas somewhere yo and they gave us a fake$100 bill yo that's how it was we did shit we got paid$100 promo yo, the bill was fake, yes? Bill was mad fake and shit. So I'm like, oh, and then from there, it was like, yo, but you know what? I respect those days, though, because that was our grind right there.

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27:14We had to grind our shit out to get to where we is, like, right now. Nowadays, it's, like, so easy to hop on the internet. You might just get a hit or just go viral. You didn't go viral, but you had to walk your dog back in those days and shit. said 15, 20 niggas and a 15 passenger, like we all bust up like this, sleeping on each other's shoulders and slobbing and shit like just going there, like just moving, you know what I mean? So we come from that shit. You know what I'm saying? What you think about people our age, fucking even the young dudes, people like selling their soul to go viral, right?

27:55It seems like dudes are doing the corniest shit I ever seen in my life. Like, it's like, I just want to know what the fuck you getting out of this shit. Like, shit bugged out to me, man. I be like, and the social media ain't really for everybody. It's really for the youth, unless you could adapt to that shit. Because I don't watch enough guys that I respect as men in real life do clown shit on the social media. Yeah. That you respect as real. Like, you be like, yo, who's some of the realists? You would mention them. Yeah. He get on social media and start doing wild, corny shit. What you think about that?

28:33Niggas corny from the beginning. Mm, mm. You know what I mean? Big corny. How you gonna just start doing that? Because that, you're a corny nigga off the top. You don't recognize, like, yo, I can't do that shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? What you doing it for? You know what I mean? So, you know, it just be like this. If you gonna start doing corny shit now, nigga, you was always corny. That's it. That's how I feel about ratting, but that's a different conversation. conversation. I feel like if you a rat, you a rat. If you work at the fucking Bodega and you seen too much shit and the cops come and you don't tell, it's just because you a nice guy, but you ain't ratting.

29:07Your moms and pops taught you don't be a rat. Once a nigga talk, don't let me hear that your girlfriend would dance or somebody stole you. You told. Right. Yeah. Okay. That's it. You told, you told. You can't fix that. That's it, though. You got corny niggas everywhere, man. Mystery of Chess Boxing man. Yeah. That's where you got your name from? Yeah yeah yeah. We was out there. You know we all into these flicks and all that and that's like I happened to come across that flick one day. What's the that was when. No that's crazy because I was a little nigga and the older niggas in my grandmother's projects they was passing around that tape.

29:50So when the VCR the VHS tape of the Mystery of Chess Box. Yeah. So when y 'all came out, that shit was like, it hit home. Right. It was like, how did this tape get from Whitney Young to Charlotte? That's when I'm a little man. I'm like, how did they watch my skid? Yeah, shit was crazy. Yeah, yeah. Nah, you know how the flicks used to be back in the days. When the flicks come on, you know, on Channel 5, like I think it was a Saturday. Saturday. Saturday. It was a tune thing. What? Come outside imitate the flicks You know what I mean I'm going to say something that might sound really weird to everybody but Fat Joe's a black belt Get ready, let me get a flag I fought enough niggas karate I beat a karate expert up one time at Morris High School That nigga used to come with the trophies Yeah, yeah

30:52I beat that boy He know if he alive, he know I'm going to have to smoke out that nigga. He used to come to the school with the trophies like he was a karate king. I beat the brakes off him in front of him. He thought niggas were scared of him because he was karate. Right, because he's going to go. That shit don't work over here. But what I was going to say to you. He ain't catch you with nothing. He ain't catch you with a chop or shit or nothing. He was kicking and I was going. Yo. Bow. Kick it. Bow. Yo. By the forefront, that boy was out of. Yo. It was like, yo, my man, this ain't the flicks, B.

31:25Right, right. Just rock them and sock them, nigga. You got socked. But listen, that wasn't even where I was going. The guy lined me up. Every year or so, he lined me up. Be careful. So I go like this. But when I look at the back of the days flicks, right, and I look at Bruce Lee, I might be crazy for this, but a lot of the ice grills, a lot of the faces he was making, he was like and I looked at rap from day one and I wonder if he influenced the swag of hip hop from day one like the Grandmaster Fly After Sugar, they all had that thing but we was you gotta understand you gotta understand Kiss, we watching that karate flick every Saturday, Bruce Lee was like a god He was Michael Jordan out here.

32:19Me too. But he had the ice grills and all that. And then rappers always had a, I don't know, man, some shit. I don't know. Did Bruce even like hip hop? Oh, I don't know. But I'm just saying hip hop's like him. Hip hop liked him is what I'm saying these years. Right. You know what I'm saying? He gets probably because whoever had the baddest rhymes, you know what I mean? On some tough guys, especially sweet rhymes. I don't know. But you say Bruce had the, ice grill, right? Yeah, he did. Nah, but I seen him with his grill, though. He had that swag, you know what I'm saying? Nah, Bruce, one of them niggas, though.

32:56Yo, J.D., you know I just insured my legs in the Lords of London, B. Because when you call my shit a year old, shit with a new legend, I insured my legs. I'm trying to tell you, I just insured the shit in the Lords of London. That's that J.Lo? With J-Lo insured her ass, but I insured my legs. All right. Under the same shit? 100 million Lords of London. These legs. 100 million legs, man. These different type of paraphernalia right here, B. Shit, I insured my legs. You know that shit? They murdered it. It's a thing out there. You know what I'm saying? I know you like touring, right? I know you. So I know you like hitting them stages.

33:37You like conquering land. You getting to talk? Yeah. Supreme clientele too tall? Or is that going to be the joint I was talking about at the Garden? we supposed to go back. Oh, yeah, I want to go out with you. I saw Conway the other day, too. Like, yo, we need to get through something. You know what I mean? Because he going to drop, I think, in September. So he got some shit. So he like, yo, he ready to go. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. I'm ready to go. Come on, man. We got to make this work. Conway, Lacks, Starks, we out here. What up, Joe? You ready to go? I stepped to Method Man about the Rewinded 10.

34:16And he said, yo, God, I don't use it, but the beard coloring, right? I said, yo, meth, I need you on the box. Yeah. You might be - Yo, nigga, I got my shit on right now. I got my shit in? Yo, he's rewinding the time. Listen, man. We got to get ghosts on the - Yeah, give me one of that box. We got to get you a check in. Give me one of that box, man. Give me one of that fucking box. Yo, listen. I'm looking at your shit looking too symmetric, too hieroglyphical right now. your shit that's lined up I know I can tell it you know what I'm saying I'm a kingpin yo I just yeah you remember back in the days motherfuckers where the fake rope changed you could grab his shit see the lock was was off like you know you could tell one but you know this Rewinded 10 man we gotta get you on a fucking box free money for life so when J the show man we here man this shit stop and shop let's get that shit man put me on the box hell yeah Immediately.

35:16What happened? You didn't say nothing. I didn't say anything. What up, kids? I'm just out of here. I'm waiting for my deal. Let's go with Jada, baby. Know what I'm saying? This is my part that I keep offering everyone I guess to be on the box. He ain't put me on the box yet. Yeah, man. Come on, man. Hell yeah. I'm going to put a mixtape with that shit, man. We're going great, though. Let me get on. Yeah. yeah I use that shit though yeah there ain't nothing wrong with that I throw it in man you gotta have that when I'm 60 I might go all white yeah I think maybe when I'm 60 I go all white at that point what's up we're fucked 60 years old you fucked I ain't fucked I see you with the cock diesel.

36:1660, they be doing all that shit. There's life at 60. Me, I'm fucked. I'm fucked. Not with the 100 million legs. You got the 100 million on the legs. You got to get it. Yeah, cash it in. This shit's got to get damaged, though. This shit to get the 100 million. They got the new Chinese shit out there, too. The bionic joints. What? Yeah, they might. How much? Stop and leave that, boy. I'm just telling you, yeah. Eyes and all that. Eyes? Yeah, yeah, nigga. Yeah. And then it's putting me in the game. Nah, I don't know if it make the sound, though, but yeah, man. Yo, they're coming out with all that shit, man.

36:58There's no lie. By the way, the days, I'm not talking about the bottom feeders, if you got two or three followers or whatever. Uh-oh. But the days of somebody thinking Joe Crack is too big to respond to them, as of this day, uh-oh, it's over. And I don't believe that you guys, it's a trend that say cap or whatever, I don't believe that you guys want to really fuck with me. Because any of you guys play with me, I got so much damaging shit to make you want to cry. You want to kill fat Joe. If you make me slap back, you do not all you guys. I'm telling y 'all right now, I know I'm a podcast. I'm a media.

37:47We the biggest in the game. So, you know, some of these old school dudes that, you know, got some validation, you know, if you want to take swipes at me and think you going viral and all, I'm not going for it no more. I don't think you niggas want the response. You know, the responses come heavy. So, you know, for the most part, I ignore everybody, but when certain individuals want to hop out and think they're going to get a click, I got to give you that sense of reality. Ladies and gentlemen at home. He watching the show. Somebody said something and he caught it. They thought he didn't catch it.

38:29he's the common he's in everything you never think he's looking at he saw it I saw it and I'm letting you know I had to get that off listen guys a lot of you guys you can be competitive or whatever but you guys you're not like me you're just not like me so the cap is fun and all that and I play along with it I'm a team spirit I came up here to entertain the people you call me cap stinking leg whatever the fuck you want. When you try, when you're a person I personally know of some type of stature and you try to make a joke about me to make me look crazy to everybody, be careful what you wish for.

39:13Because all you guys, you all got beat up and chased everywhere. I know everything. I was there. I don't think you want this type of exposure. This ain't the one you want. and believe me, the internet ain't gonna say his cap when I say that shit about y 'all. Let's proceed with the positivity. That's the 25 years. You guys beat people up all the time. But yeah, back then. We get the point. They got it. Yo, y 'all know better. Don't fuck with my man. You heard him, right? Flowers on the casket of all those who are opposed to squatters. Tell you right now. Verbo intercourse. Flat line. Listen, listen, listen.

39:57After 25 years. After 25 years. What's wrong with these niggas, man? You're finally releasing a sequel to Supreme Clientele. It may now be the right time to revisit that classic. After the violence. It was the fans. They kept calling for it. Plus, you know, you got to do, I don't rush nothing. You got to be in that state of mind like, ah, you know what? Now's the time of dent, especially for that. You had to get like a couple of beats. It's a feeling. Like when I do these things it's all a... Yeah, yeah. And what I noticed is like a lot of our old producers like, you know, they more to like what's now?

40:44A lot of people... You're looking for that old pack. They got to give you the new pack. A new pack. I want the new pack. Yeah, I want the new pack. You know what I mean? A new pack. I get it when it's like that, but But for this certain type of thing, it's like I need beats that could just take me to give me a feeling. You know what I mean? So that takes a long time because it's not like that. And plus, my mind wasn't even really on it. I'm doing other songs and albums for other people and stuff like that. So it just be like, oh, you're 25 years is coming up. So I try to keep my mind on it. A couple of songs I got, I got like five songs.

41:17And I had like since 2000 for like 20, 20 something years, like 23 years. But I just held it, just held it. It was like, yo, I'll save it for Supreme or whatever. So by the time we got all that, you know what I mean? I fucking decided, I asked my man like, yo, and I put it on, put it on. But you know me, I'm a funny nigga. So it's like, you know, if it fit, it fit. If it don't, it don't. You know what I mean? So, and I just, I just shaped it up, whatever, whatever, whatever. And that was it. No doubt. I like doing projects though. Yeah. Like, like albums. I like, I like doing albums, especially my, my, you know what I mean?

41:52So. The intro was talking about the birthday party, but I was thinking about, you know, I threw a party in my house. I'm looking out the window. The party starts at five. We got two customers. My man at Fournier Bakery who made it, Marco and his girl. Six o 'clock, I look out the window. Two more customers, Didier and his girlfriend, my publicist. Shit look light out there. You know, Fat Joe birthday party be lit, buddy. I'm like, I don't know if this ever happened to nobody. I'm looking out the window. I don't know if it's too early to come out, reveal the outfit. I'm looking around like, yo, did nobody get the memo?

42:35Because they extra set it up like 100 chairs. They made it too big. Right. And we don't really invite people to the crib like that. But the people that we invited, by the way, by like 9, 10 o 'clock, shit was lit out of control. Every chair. I was scared. Right. Like, I'm looking at 100 chairs and just nobody really there. Like, yo, this shit was scary as fuck. I said, yo, all we need is the pic of them saying nobody showed the Fat Joe's birthday. That shit was out of control. Wow. 9 o 'clock, we saw a rock at 10 o 'clock. Shit ran packed. We good to go. But that shit, that's... It was scary. Yeah, it was scary.

43:16It was borderline. It was like going to a show and two customers show up. I ain't never knew that you did the Apollo. That's how it started. Yeah. You said you won, right? Yeah, four weeks in a row. Murdered it. I guess it's Captain. Yeah, I know. I guess it's Captain. Let me tell you something. Yo, that's crazy, though. That's why I believe in God so much, right? Because, yeah, I went there ready. You know what I'm saying? When I walked up in the audition, there was 100 people there. I knew if I'm, that's the true part of delusional records that I looked at everybody like, yo, what are they even doing here?

43:54Like, you know this is my shit. I'm about to tear this down. The truth is, I wasn't really a great rapper at that time. Right? But I'm a real street dude, so they've been seeing me get money my whole life. Right? So, I don't know. I thought about it one day in a hotel all these years later. I said, how did you win the Apollo? Right? And I swear to God, had to be God. Because when I stepped on stage, they just went pandemonium. Like, they never heard a bar, J.D. It wasn't like, yo, you pussy, you this, you name it. They never heard a bar. I stepped out stage four times. They made me retire because I was just winning every week.

44:41I ain't never known. And they never heard a verse. They could not hear a verse. It was just the people just was just going. You know, I tell them I was like the fat lady that goes, and I am telling you, I'm not going. Like, you know, they win every week. Know what I'm saying, Ghost? Yeah. I came out there. I'm telling you, as my brother, I can't even make sense of it. Yeah. You know what you're doing? You know I had that Dapidation. Flojo wasn't even out. No. That's where I met Red Alert, who asked me for a demo. Flojo was the demo for Red Alert. People heard it. That's how I got signed. Chris Lighty came and signed me off the Flojo demo, promo, and Red Alert would play every week.

45:29And that shit went number one in the country. But I'm just telling you, as your brother, no cap, no line, I don't know how it was. Bro, I was just coming out. I got to go back. It's up. It's up. It's on YouTube. I don't think it's there. I've been looking for it for like a documentary or something. Yeah. I can't find it. I called Ralph Cooper Jr. It got to be there. He used to shoot it. I asked him for some of these guys. Man, they don't let that footage go. He might want Fat Joe to die so he could put it on his shit. You know what I'm saying? Ralph Cooper Jr. No, I called him too. I hit him up.

46:01The guy who used to run the Apollo used to be the host and all that. He was like, yeah, yeah, I got the footage, where he ain't never get that shit up. But you know, everybody got their process. Yeah, that's where I should.

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49:06You and Ray, how did you and Ray create that chemistry? Cuban. Cuban? Yeah, the Cuban shit, right? Me and Ray, you know, it's like, out the crew, we was just like, I'm from Stapleton, he's from the hill. You know what I mean? A lot of us went to school with each other, though. You know what I mean? so it's like you know brothers is like you know snapping on each other and doing all that shit like that but i don't know when we came when we came around it was like you know i'm a street nigga he's street nigga get money and all that i don't know it just it just came it just it just it was something was there it was just it was just glue that was just there so we started really like teaming up doing these things you know we recognized that chemistry when we was in um before the album came out, like, I guess doing the Wu-Tang album.

49:56And it started probably around the time we was doing all that can it be all so simple shit, you know what I mean? And shit, but after that shit, it was just, yeah, it was just on. We was doing everything together, you know what I mean? So, so yeah, I think that's, it just came from that. it's fine. Yeah, it's going like, got comfortable, got kicked out of Barbados in the mix of that. That's how it happened. It was like, How the hell did y 'all get kicked out of barbedos? It was like, nah, because it was like, Ray was up next. You know how the Klan was, because, yo, you know, at that time, everybody want to get on.

50:33But then the Klan, it's like you had to be, you had to respect who's up next. Who's up next. So, you know, meth was first. Then I think Dirt came, right? Everybody scratching at the door, yeah, Dirt, yeah. Dirt. You like pits that's locked in the closet. What? Yeah. Can't stop. Dirt, who was Dirt? Ray? Ray. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so then it was like that. And that was going into the prime year, like, 94, 95. So, you know, we go to Barbados. We pick out the beats first. So I'm like, yeah, that one right there, that. That, that, that, that, that. All that flash you heard on, what's it called? We just took those with us, on the Barbados.

51:09So we dressed. We had them shits on Joe. We got them fatigues and all that other shit. We got them niggas mad over there. I don't know who it was. Ain't like how y 'all look. Ain't like, yeah, ain't like, yeah. They wasn't with all that. They just kept fucking with us. Bang, yo, yo. Turn the music down. It was like, yo, we ain't got that shit. We ain't let it. They just kept fucking with me. And then it came like maybe like three days later. We was only here for like a hot maybe like three days. But it was my fault, though, because I'm trying to go. You know when you're young, you're trying to find an exotic place.

51:40I told a nigga like, yo. I told a nigga like, yo, you're going to go to Barbados. Check this shit out. I had a pamphlet. This shit was called the Royal Pavilion. his name was already sounding fly the bro sure looked at fly boom he like bet man we get out of there was bullshit kick this out they can't fuck with us kick this out so now we like then where the fuck we gonna go Steve Rifkin you know he like yo go to Miami that's the best thing he ever said bro he said it or Ray said it we get to Miami Scarface it was all Scarface you got bricks niggas finding bricks right across the street on the water and shit.

52:21Watching up, yeah. Popping up, 500 ,000 here and there. You know what I mean? It was just, it was Godface. That's how those darts just came out. Yeah. Boom, darts every day. Wow, man, we had Becks and Heineken's drinking mad at them shits. I forgot what hotel we were, I forgot the name. The Pelican Hotel, right up in there like that, yo. That's where we jotted all that shit down. That's hell. Yeah, everything. Then we came back. We just wrote everything. Yeah. came back and laid it down. You know what? You know what I'm thinking, right? That's a beautiful story. But with guys like you, guys like you and me, do you ever bumped into guys who really believe your music and was trying to impress you?

53:01Like I had my first show in Miami. It's very similar, right? And I left the drug game to be positive and be a rap. The guys who booked me, the promoter, they took me to a house. It was so much. Kilos of cocaine and guns and this. house. It was like, yeah, Joey crack. They showing me all this. I'm like, yo, bro, I want to be so far away from these dudes. That's definitely happened to the locks. That happened to y 'all. People trying to prove to you. I know. I know. Yeah. Because they think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's got arrested doing that to me when I was going at it with 50? What they do? I was actually at like a Havoc or a Mobb Deep.

53:42It has something in the city, like a listening or a party. So we went to that shit, then walk into the car. I'm walking, they in the car. And they're like, yeah, Kiss, you going at it with 50 and this and that. We respect street niggas. They pulling out rats. And the police knocks right behind them. Them niggas got arrested. They did that year and a day, huh? Yeah. Assholes. They did more than a year. You actually felt bad for it. Yeah, they didn't have no reason to do that. Yeah. Try to prove to me what you doing. Look at the Raffi. TNT. They probably just getting out now. Just out on the mix.

54:24Yeah, it's a lot of shit. It be a lot of shit, man. Fans. They just fans, though. Yeah. Want to just show out. Sometimes they don't know how to express their love. Mm-hmm. Especially with them guns. Yeah. It goes all wrong. Yeah, so that's what it was, though. Went out there, came back, laid that shit down. Did a couple of skits. Yeah, man. That was it. When y 'all got to do a tour, when y 'all got to do something that includes everybody, except rest in peace, go dirty. How hard or how easy or how is that when y 'all about to go on tour, work on an album or do something that requires anybody? Now, after all these years of success and everybody got their own families and their own companies and entities, is it still easy or is it just a little bit complicated?

55:14I mean, the complicated part is coming to a conclusion. You know what I mean? Because everybody got body feel as your goal. Yes. Now with that. You know me, I'm like, yo, nigga, we got to change this fucking outfits, man. We need to come out on some new edition shit. You heard? Do some fly shit like this. You got niggas going, fuck that shit. Don't want no blazers and shit. You don't want that shit. I'm like, yo, but yo, come on. We can't be coming down 93. It's like, yo, man, we here. But then, you know, but it's like nine of us, 10 of us. and everybody got their own shit. But for the most part, me and Rape be on the same page.

55:49You know what I mean? Like, yo, niggas, just stand in the third. But it's like, yeah, B, it's like when it comes to making a decision, yeah, you got so many. You know what I mean? Sometimes you just got to bow out. Like, you know what? Yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying nothing. And just do that shit. You know what I mean? And let them niggas do it. But yeah, but other than that, when we come together for the cause. For them, Vulture. Yeah, yeah. The end result is always beautiful. There we go. We did that. This year, I felt more comfortable with the shows that we did. I felt like these days just till we just left was the best that we ever did in our life.

56:28The Garden was magnifying. It was incredible. It was electrifying. It was nostalgic. It was incredible. I was on the side of the stage. after touching the stage just chill on the side and watch the rest of the show I was like a little kid in front of the Christmas tree right it's going crazy we all been here mad years I see they ask you about this every interview so I don't really need a big response right but you know I was there with Steve Rifkin when you blacked out on Hot 97 like I was sitting next to Steve's I was his guest That's right. What's this, the Hot 97 shit? Summer Jam? Yeah, I'm there.

57:13Summer Jam. I'm in the crowd. I'm a fan. I'm in the crowd with Steve Rifkin. And when they, I was just like. That's my first Summer Jam. We get off stage and they come on and they said, oh, God, they went quick. Yo, we popped this cherry, nigga. Yeah. We popped this cherry while y 'all flip. Yeah. Hold on, because. Hold on, hold on, hold on. If I'm not mistaken. I thought I wanted the headline, right? Yeah, but we went I think we went before y 'all and then it's something like that. I remember when we got off I heard y 'all on the mic calling everybody everything to call them Yeah, bro. Yo, son.

57:54We popped this cherry, son. I'm like David was black. I said no disrespect I don't I don't get high, bro. I am so focused at that shit with the shit you saying, I already knew this is political suicide in the music industry. But one thing that taught me, right? Because all these radio stations, they make you believe they are enemies. Y 'all, come here, this is the new power. Yo, the mother station is whack. It's like... But against y 'all, they phone fault, y 'all. The enemies are the enemies. It's like, nah nah we ain't planning and they basically the whole country was like a domino effect when it was like yo they violating the system yeah yeah yeah I knew this was gonna be a hard time for y 'all you know I didn't know that everybody maybe Hot 97 don't play your shit but Philly does this they all form form I never seen them the Democrats and Republicans come together to fuck some people up I'm trying to tell you I was Yo, you know when you get on one radio station, you do the other?

59:12You in fucking Norfolk, Virginia. Fuck them, they're enemies. And they formed together and said, Hey. How'd y 'all fix that? Nah. Did y 'all just wait it out? Nah. Because y 'all came back. I didn't really know. It was wild. Maybe I felt hot in 97. I didn't know it was like a wildfire around the country. I thought it was just hot. Stop playing it for a little while. Everybody. Yeah, it was deep. It was deep. I think that was the time when it was just like, yo, y 'all was up so much. Like, y 'all, everything bad boy, bad boy boy. And it was like, yo, we was just so down here. You know what I mean?

59:52I tried to talk to, like, remember Tracy? Yeah. The program, yeah. I tried to talk to her, the 9th and the 3rd. She wanted to go out. She wanted to go out. She wanted to go to France and shit, man. France? Oh, shit. Tracy told us she tried to take it there. I don't know if she just wanted to go to Altaxia to read me. She wanted to go to France. You might have went to France, Ghost. You might have took one for the Klan. You should have went to France. Yo, man, listen, bro. It ain't happened. So, you know what I'm saying? It was just, I don't know. I just had to weigh it out. I think maybe when I got to Def Jam and shit, they started like, all right, cool, trying to mend a little bit of shit, but the rest of the clan is like, yo, we was kind of doomed.

1:00:42Then we stopped putting out music like that anyway. It wasn't really consistent on how we had it at the top. So that's how that shit started simmering down and shit. But we left Rage Against the Machine. That's what I was trying to tell you. How many of y 'all think we should go ahead and do this or just stay over here with Rage? You know what I mean? if he would have stayed with Rage, I think they was saying 97 was like, they ain't gonna fuck with you no more. You know what I mean? So we still, I think majority of us just like, fuck it, let's just go do this. We need these niggas and then that shit happened.

1:01:17You know what I mean? You know, I love Hot 97 and everything they ever did for me, but they used to play a lot of political games. And so that shit, you gotta come up here, you gotta see bro before anybody. Yeah, that type of shit. It was just pretty much kissing ass. That shit used to drive me crazy, man. I'm asking the label. Y 'all can't... They put it on you. That's the only... The label want to control everything except when it's that. But you know, this guy said you got to come see him before you go see Cosmic Cabin. Right. All that shit. That shit turns into it. Oh, my God. You know what I mean?

1:01:50But, you know, that's the business, man. That's the business. You're going to say you got to go. Supreme clientele too. You got to go right now? Make sure. They say you got to go. They say your people... Hold on. We going to play some. texting us like, yo, we got to go. He don't want to leave. Hold on, but fuck that, man. Let's work. Do we play something? Yo, go. Ghost ain't going no fucking way. Yo, go. Yo, go. We going to play something. Ghost ain't going nowhere. We got more shit to talk about. Ghost ain't going nowhere. I'm not letting you go. Let me get fourth to site. Yo, put the chains on the door.

1:02:21Yeah, I want fourth to site. We got ghost. Yo, we playing fourth to site. We can't let him go. We playing fourth to site. Yes, whatever. Yeah, let's go in. Come on, let's go in. Fourth disciple in Georgia. See, that fourth was like 15, 16 years old too.

1:02:40Pull that back, huh? Yeah. Pull it back. I know where it starts.

1:02:51That's how it starts. Yo. Pull it back again.

1:03:01the floor Just came Oh On the floor Just came home from doing 12 minutes Blood running from his mouth His eyes got low. He scrolls my Hand will take then he let go Nah, nigga don't start that shit We've been the worst shootouts in this and we got Hit your toes look wake up It's me and stuff we gonna get up and walk I'ma tie your cloth tomorrow night. We got a flight to catch some little Guardia. My whiz made that fish you like fried tilapia. Niggas, stop playing. You hear your daughter talking. Remember her first steps when she started walking. You think she wanted, so you fitted in the fucking coffin.

1:03:44You touch my nigga, yo, yo, get the fuck up off him. My nigga ain't like y 'all niggas. Now you're hollering around like a bunch of bitches. Jamel, call his whiz, notify his mom. Now forget it, she already lost two sons. Come on, Lord. I place my head on his chest. Just to hear him breathe or say something under his breath, I wipe the blood from his mouth. Before my eyes, I seen gloves of this black shit come out. Saying to myself, shit don't look too good. Another black man lost in the hood. No cigar, help a lot. I gave him CPR. He looks disconnected from life like a VCR. God damn it, I can't stand it.

1:04:19I'm rocking back and forth like a hammock. So what I feel is that he left the planet. I'm in denial, but it's clear to me like fire. And I don't know how to fix my lips to say goodbye, yo. Come on, Tosh, wake up. Oh, that shit is... Wow. My king, my king. Yeah, you said that was an old joint that you talked about. My king, I tell you, he was angry on the shit. He was angry on the shit. He was angry on the shit. He was angry on the shit. He was angry on the shit. He was angry on the shit. That's crazy, yo. That bought me. I got to play that in the gym. Yeah. Let's go, Georgie, man. DJ, I'll make you a DJ before it's over, James.

1:04:56Yeah. There you go. Got one? Jump. Okay. This that. This that shit. This that shit, this hook. Okay. And you killed the hook. Kill the hook. Kill the hook. Yeah, we harmonized. The old school harmonized. Yeah, harmonized. Yeah, like it. We used to rob niggas left and right. A fiend tried to get slick with slapping and crushed they pipes. Strong on robberies. All done in harmony. Raise my weapon and then bow, hit an artery. Race to the staircase, shoot out the lights. And let off a few shells at the door on the right. They got dust, weed, half pound of E Under the couch a shotgun, 12 keys Bow, another shot, and the door flew open Megan Snow on the table of fiends Still smoking, she rule Out of respect, threw four on the chest Heard some niggas in the back with a rude dialect Screaming Cruz, I wrecked, you could lose that neck The dreads have blood clot, bigger fools die away That's when I heard them Loved them cocking their guns in the back room Turned on the vacuum, maybe I'll distract them Got them, gathered all of the babies in the bathroom Take your little Cheetos I'll be back soon.

1:05:59I know the dread that cut off his hair. War at half moon. Four gold teeth. Caught a body in camp. Droppers like Equinix up on the spot. I'm talking about waist. That's in all the TVs and class. But hold on. One nigga came out running. Got it jumping. I dip behind the wall. Squeeze and start dumping. Never alone. Crash dummy. He was bluffing. Almost got his head ripped off. Straight for nothing. The cause. Heard the chainsaw like I was the main cause. They was ordered to eat my food. Called by the main boss. Yeah. A heal of bullets. A rain of terror. Pitches hanging off the wall, can't put them back together Curtains and Clor-Eggs, bottles, holes forever The boss's furniture was damaged to cream leather I'm good for compensation Yeah, we good for that I guess I don't have patience, not no more Yeah, I ain't got that type of shit no more, motherfucker Let's go Yes, I can get dramatic Facts I'll put that boozle's attic on the wall This tastes shit This tastes shit Somebody should have just told you But listen nigga, I won't hold you We ain't playin' no game Nah nigga, you know what it is You wanna learn, I won't mold you I'll mold you Niggas in the street will fold you Better stay in your lane Right there nigga, right there Let's go Knock Knock Y 'all needed one more verse on this I needed another This shit stupid right here Yo that hook is crazy Crazy beat.

1:07:27Yeah, baby. Supreme Clientel 2. Make sure you get it on all platforms, wherever you get your music. Stop listening to that bullshit and listen to some real shit. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's Cracked and Kiss, motherfuckers. And Kiss today. Yeah. No doubt. Make some noise for Tony Stark. Who's safe forever? Who's safe forever? Wu-Tang for the kids.

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From the publisher

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined this week by Staten Island’s finest and member of the incomparable Wu-Tang Clan, Ghostface Killah. Joe and Jada ask Ghostface about his new album ‘Supreme Clientele 2,’ his decades-spanning collaborations with fellow Wu-Tang member Raekwon, and stories from the old days with RZA, GZA, Method Man, Ol’ Dirty Bastard, and the rest of the Clan. Fat Joe also tells a hilarious story from his birthday party involving Jim Jones and a whole list of hip hop icons.

3:00 - Fat Joe's birthday party

11:15 - Ghostface on 'Supreme Clientele 2' & "Pause (Skit)"

17:45 - Ghostface blesses Joe and Jada with their own skit

26:30 - Wu-Tang's early years

30:00 - Joe fought a karate master

40:15 - What inspired the sequel to 'Supreme Clientele'?

51:00 - Chemistry with Raekwon

55:00 - Jada's crazy fan story

1:04:00 - Live reaction to "4th Disciple" & "Georgy Porgy"

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