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28:52You like a street Tibbs. I love Tibbs. I love Tibbs. But the truth is the truth. I had guys that were all-stars, that were the most dominant in the NBA, that you just seen them. They might have been shitting on themselves when we get out there because they're not used to the nutcracker, the blunt. The nigga come dance in front of you for no reason. Guy come out the stand, start dancing. Oh, shit. What? And you, you know, and you seeing all the shit and you see everybody, Then you look on the side, Fat Joe's crazy, running the crowd, topless, 500 pounds. You're like, yo, what the kind of shit show going on in here?

29:35And then you come and then you're like, and I'm trying to, I'm, this is one guy, I don't want to say his name, but he was an all-star. He might've been a 10-time boy. He came out there, man, he might've scored two points. And he was shook. And he was like, yo, but the people are on the court. But this nigga, this is Harlem. It's real. couple of them really really excelled couple of them was like really really they loved it you know Baron Davis loved it one time I brought out there Coutinho Mobley and Stevie Francis and them niggas was going bananas remember when they was the duo Al Harrington always played amazing out there it was a lot of players Stephon Marbury I had him every game you know Stephon Marbury at that time was getting 22 million a year in the NBA.

30:24He was the highest paid. He played out there for free. Was coming out there. Then he had his brother, Zach. You not the whack, Zach. Because Zach never made it to the league. He was actually a good player. But, you know, he's the Marbury. So they expect, Zach, you not the whack. They be on the mic. Yo, Zach, you not the whack. And Zach go up in there. He scores little 10 points and go hard. But, you know, Stephon Mulberry is the most, he was the most dedicated street basketball NBA player I've ever seen. And another person who never lost a single game is Ron Artest at the Rucker. He never lost a game he played in.

31:10Ron Artest, I had him one year on my team. We playing the chip. He splits his whole hand. Splits. You've seen that before, right? What, split? Like split. Like he had like a, his shit was split. Like split.

31:28It's the championship. His shit is split wide open. Like he needed surgery or something. Definitely stitches, right? So now I'm shook. Because I'm thinking the omen is old. Like this guy never loses. Like I knew I was winning. Look, Ronald Tuss never lost a game. So the one game we in the chip, he splits his hand. I mean splits. So I'm like, oh, we lost. Because the man not going to be able to finish this game. It's like fourth quarter. The man gets some tape. He taped his whole hand together. Tape. Goes back out there, starts killing him. Yo, Ron Artest was different. And, you know, I would go pick him up in fucking Queensbridge projects.

32:15You know, Ron Artes had two apartments in Queensbridge in the projects. He had that$49 million deal, too. He be sitting in front of the bench with chancletas on in the middle of the projects where everybody knowing he got$49 million driving a dusty pickup truck. Ron Artes. he was different. Ron Artest was just too strong. And his brother, right? What was his brother? Danny? Danny Artest. Danny was... We used to play Danny. Fuck you, Danny. Danny was big. Danny was... Yo, it's sometimes... That's why I'm trying to take that. Oh, Danny.

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38:17What player or what game did you watch Christmas or something like that? And you went outside and was like, yo, you was emulating the moves. Like, yo, I got to be like this guy. This guy is incredible. I would say for me, like I grew up a Knicks fan. And my pops used to take me to the games. So I was in the garden when LJ hit the shot. I was there too, by the way. Yeah, you definitely been to more Knicks games. No, no, no, no, no. But I was there that game. I was with Allen Overson. He was here, and we said it on the episode. He was with me. I've been looking forever for the pictures of that game, but it's the other side.

38:56And we was in them seats. We was like a little fourth row, fifth floor. We wasn't in the court side. But that, you saw that whole crowd. Me too. I saw the whole shit go crazy. But, you know, it's like when you're a kid, you're just watching all the games. and you watching all like the, it was still VCR and shit. So I had all the Magic Johnson tapes. Black and white. I'm watching. I wasn't black and white. No, I wasn't. I'm an old nigga. I used to watch Honeymooners black and white. Honeymooners only came on in black and white. Now they got the colored version now. They even got Wizard of Oz in color now.

39:36They redid it. The point is, it was black and white. I used to watch the Knicks when the shit was black and white. I used to watch TV when the TV turned off. You too young for that, right? 12 midnight, they throw the American flag. An Indian dude come out, and he look at the fucking pollution. He was going green a long time ago. He be looking, and he start crying, the Indian dude. With the Indian outfit, every night. He look, and he see the trash, and he start tearing, and that's it. You wake up in the morning, TV again. That shit is off all night. All night. I'm old. I'm talking about when I'm a kid.

40:21When I'm a kid, the Honeymooners was probably like the last show on with Art Carney. That shit be going off. Audrey Metal. Then they got the Audrey Metal. Then they got a flag. And then they got an Indian dude. They're trying to tell you, yo, don't throw shit in the street. Don't pollute. You're fucking up the earth. and he come over there and he start crying and shit. And that's how TV turned off every night. Damn. What do you mean? It turned off. When you was watching what you was watching. We talking about basketball right now? We talking about the... TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basketball. You saying DVD.

40:56Oh, nah. It's just... It was more like... It was more... You know, you walking in the street and you just... You doing moves. You don't even have a ball or nothing. It don't matter. You working on... So you was in the street. with the wow just think okay what am I gonna do so you walking up the block working on your shit you already there in your mind you know what I'm saying so for me that was my mentality as a kid was just like I wouldn't tell nobody like yo I'm going to the league that was not how I moved but the reality is I'm a third I'm a third generation athlete talk about it like my father my grandfather was a soccer player from Cameroon my pops is a hall of fame tennis player only African player to ever win a grand slam last Frenchman to win a grand slam so I grew up seeing all that shit just knowing what it takes knowing the greatness just knowing what it takes to be a pro you know what I'm saying it wasn't like yo my pops would wake me up in the morning yo let's go for a run you know what I'm saying like that was my game I wasn't I wasn't more talented than half the guys out there.

42:08But I had the education of, all right, wake up in the morning, the discipline of what it takes. Like, when I see you fucking tired and I got two more gears because I'm running three miles before school because I know nobody else doing that shit. And y 'all fucking up the drills. Y 'all coach say something because you got 20 points so you think that you can just, I don't give a fuck what the coach got to say. Like New York City, more than just like looking at guys and being like, yo, I'm looking at guys like, this is what I'm not supposed to do. And this is what I'm not supposed to do. A lot of guys should have been there, man.

42:49There was a lot of guys who were better than me. What a blessing. Same thing happened to me. I don't believe it happened to Kiss because Kiss always been the best. But when I got on, I'm networking in Manhattan. I'm performing at SOBs. I'm going to a lyricist lounge, this and this and that, trying to get on. And the guys was a hundred times better than me in the hood. And then they got mad at me because I got on, but they wasn't willing to network, go talk to people, meet people, get a deal. Like, you know, I snuck up in the record label. That shit was 31 flights. I snuck in the record label, walked up 31 flights, and I was fat, fat, fat, Joe.

43:32Three fat jokes. Three Fat Joes, and I give the guy my demo, and he tell me I'm not good enough. And shit like that I was doing. I was going down to D.C. to how can I be down and everywhere trying to get on. I end up doing Apollo Theater. I won four weeks in a row. That's how I got my chance. But other guys was 100 times better than me, and they didn't understand. They were like, we better than Joey. But, yeah, y 'all don't want to put in that work. You know, it's especially in the athletes, a whole different. You know, I stood in Tony Parker's house for a couple of days, and that guy was eating like a bean.

44:09They was giving him a bean and asparagus, one piece of turkey, and it was like, yeah, go work out for two hours. He come back. They give him some other bullshit, tofu this. He go work out again. He come back. I'm like, yo, this shit is, yo, that guy there? Tony Parker? Tony Parker. I lived in his house for like a week. A week. We was performing at somebody's birthday party. He was like, yo, don't stay in a hotel, stay in my house. His shit was a complex. It was in San Antonio? San Antonio. He had a complex, maybe 100 acres of some shit. He had the professional gym, everything. But I'm looking at this dude eat, and he getting up.

44:47He got a fucking chef. I'm eating all the eggs and pancakes the motherfucker can eat. He eating a bean, this, this, that. I was like, yo, this is the shit. Tony Parker pops. Tony Parker pops just passed, too. so rest in peace rest in peace Pops oh he was there Pops was there he was on top of Tony like that that's exactly who had him on that regimen that's right because Pops was a dog too Hooper nice Chicago Finers rest what I'm trying to say Loyola like with top score I went to the funeral last week yeah Tim Duncan there David Robinson like yo everybody all the French players came I'm like, yo, damn.

45:32They love him. Boy, they showed out. They showed out for him. Everybody flew to Chicago. Goosebumps, brother. You know what I'm saying? For pops. Yeah. So, no, respect. No, that's, that's, that's, well, speaking of Tim Duncan, that's my favorite power forward of all time. Doesn't get better. Fundamental. Shit. He give it to you. He don't even, I remember that one game. It was one game. He was one of his last games and he was old already and he was still busting their ass. He gave them every... I don't remember him never busting ass. No, what I'm saying is, his last season, his team was whack. Oh, I...

46:11Who? His last season, Tim Duncan's team kind of fell off. Golden State was the best shit we ever see. They fell off now, right? It happens to everybody. What I'm saying is, they didn't have that kind of firepower no more, but that boy, Timmy, man, He ain't let me down. He still gave them niggas like 41. He went to the last oxygen. He was trying to die. Greg Popovich used to sit them out and put reason with O-H. He used to make Tony Parker and Tim Duncan and them not places. He used to put O-H. Yeah, Pop. He was cool like that. Man, they were so good. The Spurs were so good. Talk about chemistry.

46:55One day, Tony's like, yo, let's have lunch. I'm not feeling like lunch playing, you know, buddy-buddy before the game. Like, we Chicago Bulls, y 'all San Antonio. He's like, no, come on, man. I need to talk to you. Pop said that? No, no, Tony Parker. I pull up. These guys are all drinking wine before the game at lunch. I'm like, yo. So good. They came out there, still bust their ass by 20. Genovally. Genovally. So who's on your Chicago team? At that time? We had young Jimmy Butler. We had Derrick Rose. We had Luol Deng. We had Carlos Boozer. Whole lot of game in this motherfucker. Come on, man.

47:41Butter, what up? Butter, we talk about you a lot on this show, man. You wore your Harlem pink pants. You got your Harlem pink pants. Whole lot of game in the building. Whole lot of game, Adrian. Yo, so you have a young Jimmy Butler. Young Derrick Rose. Derrick Rose. We had, you know, it's too bad, man, because we were right there. We were right there. I love, I love everything about it. What else you got? You got Luau Deng at that time? We had Luau Deng. We had Kirk Heinrich picking up full court. That's the toughest, toughest white boy. We had him. We had Big Duck, Brad Miller. Brad Miller changed my fucking whole shit.

48:31One day after practice, he goes, you know, he had a big, he used to put dip in his mouth. You know, big country guy. Redneck trucker. Redneck trucker, exactly. But one of my best friends. Might have had the confederate under the seat. The confederate flag. He might, but you know, but the best. The best of the confederates. I'm a young boy. The best of the confederates. Best of the confederates. That ain't got anything in his mouth. Come on. Be careful. So he got the dip, right? And he's like, yo, young fella, don't ever shoot a jump shot again. Here's what I need you to do. Catch the ball at the elbow.

49:11Dribble handoff. If he's overplaying it, throw the backdoor pass. Yo. Two things. He just told me two simple things that changed my whole shit. like yo I had I had seasons where I'm averaging five dimes a game now I'm a shooter just from that little just let the big fella get the ball at the elbow one of this guy's favorite boss for me was like Sam I could sell right and every time I see Sam Cassell I tell him we gotta bring him on the podcast wasn't nobody like Sam Cassell Sam Cassell's a coach whoever he's teaching is fucking learning. He was one of the last technicians. He's like a fucking brainiac that could play.

50:00Experience is a motherfucker. And when somebody just gives you advice and you can apply it and turn around and make you so much better, it's amazing to me. And that's dope for Brad because you guys had a hell of a team. You know what I'm saying? Y 'all were just young. It was kind of like Like the OKC team, when they had KD, they had, you know, they split them up. James Harden. Like what kind of team could that have been if they played together? Or Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter, they split that shit up. You guys had a hell of a team and a hell of a coach. Yeah. Because you know I'm a Tibbs guy.

50:43Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with Coach Tibbs, man. Shout out Tibbs, man. It's all right. No, he got$30 million on the walkout. he's alright I saw that clip I seen him I saw that clip y 'all were wilding on the 30 million bro well you know by the way exactly exactly you want to coach I mean that's a hell of a walk on it's a highway robbery huh highway robbery no no he deserved everything we ain't been there 25 years they should have gave him more exactly I'm not in favor of we should make history and bring him back right now like tomorrow make a big thing bring him back nah shout out I agree Tibbs was the best, man.

51:23It's sad because Coach Brown, the problem I got with Coach Brown is his sneakers. Yo, yo, yo! When he got on, when he rocking on. No, your coach is pie, the team is pie. Tibbs was rocking Versace, Givenchy, all of that. If your coach is pie, your team is pie. And Coach Brown, he's my neighbor. He lives around in the neighborhood. Everybody says he's a beautiful guy. But his fucking sneakers, I'm not intimidated. intimidated. So if I'm looking at the coach, yeah, you coach, you're the fucking leader. He might got some bullshits on to intimidate you. He got some bullshits on. He got like fake converts.

52:05Nah, that's not helping the feet either. It's not comfortable. It ain't. Anyway, Coach Brown, I wish you luck. The system looks like it's going to work by midseason. They're going to be the fluidity is going to be right. Another thing, I want the job. I ain't got the pause. Job of what? I ain't got the heart to tell you in person because I see James Dolan at all the games, but if someone could tap him, if Clive Frazier retires, I want the job. I'm giving up everything. Me and you, the glory days, it's over, rapping, everything. To be the announcer of the New York Knicks. You gotta wear the suits.

52:40It ain't no money. It ain't no money. I got I ain't got to wear the cowhide suits. I ain't got a fucking problem with it. That's the voice. Pony Versace. I want to be the voice of the city. That's the voice. Holy McMoly. Ah, this fluidity. What? I'm ready for the job, Jada. Swishing and dishing, man. Swishing and dishing. Wheeling and dealing. Wheeling and dealing. Jiving and thriving. What? I wear the fucking cowhide suits in honor of Clyde. Clyde, Mount Clyde, of the day, say, yeah. Something. There you go, Pat Riley. used to have a hard time he told him that's why he turned into a coach he used to try to stick me out there I used to kill him that made him turn into yo I'm not even gonna lie to you the other day you know when people start dying and shit he's not dying right but you know when people listen listen everybody no no I'm not saying that but you know when people start dying the motherfucker dying he on the deathbed he know he going in six hours he be like yo I killed 36 people they start telling they shit you know they dying.

53:44The motherfucker Scott, yo, I'm the serial killer of Alaska. Killed the girl in Albuquerque. Yo, listen. I feel they come, the flags. Listen. I seen Clyde do something the other day I never seen him do in his life. He straight up said, I'm the best Nick, the greatest Nick of all time. Clyde don't brag like that. I seen him on the interview. No, no, no. No, no. He said that with those lyrics. I'm the greatest Nick of all time. Clyde Frazier. I never heard him say that in all of them years. He said that recently. And there's rumors he might be retiring. And that man was like, yeah, Clyde Frazier, the greatest Nick of all time.

54:25He won the chip. He won the chip, right? Yeah. No, he won the chip. He used to clean his Rolls Royce with a chinchilla and all. As he deserves it. As he deserves it. I'm with that. You understand what I'm saying? I'm with you. You live a life, man. You work hard. you deserve to do whatever the fuck you want to do if it's legal you want to wipe your car with a chinchilla wipe your car do whatever ain't nobody give you shit you work for it so whatever makes you happen what's your man Jared Jeffries remember on the Knicks was he Jared Jeffries the lights can do he told me his first check he cashed out all cash and threw it in the bathtub and slept in the money Jared Jeffries motherfucking crazy yo that nigga told me that shit I was like what?

55:13He was like, yes, I pulled out a half a million dollars cash, threw it in the bathtub and bathed in it all night, like in the money. Jared Jeffery. What's the wildest shit you heard like a basketball player say about? I never heard no shit like that. That's crazy. No, I heard it. We were playing Boston and we went to dinner with Boston and the Knicks. I was up there in Boston and they was all saying crazy shit like they were saying crazy shit. The ball players, They were young. They were saying, you know, he said he bathed. And I can't tell you the other shit. I'm really in trouble if I talk about these guys.

55:48No, I think the league now, it changed a lot, man. Like, you know, like when you walk around New York City, you're like, why does it feel, why does the city feel so polished? Like, the money's so big that I think that, and because of the social media and all that, I think everybody's just on their best behavior. Like, you don't even, they don't even go, they're playing video games. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a different. Morant. Unless you're John Morant. That's right. You're trying to play in China. You're right. Come on, fuck. I'm on a play in China. He's not playing. I warned him three years ago.

56:21You remember that shit? Hey, buddy, you watch everything I say. Hey, bud, I warned him three years ago. I told him, bro, you're on a China. He has a coach from over the water that plays 30 minutes. He's not used to playing a little bit a minute. So he has the right... He's father stands there with the shades. I got nothing to do with no here. Potts is drunk. He ain't bothering nobody. He's sitting there getting shrinking. Stephon Mulberry went from 22 million a year, the biggest player in the game, to China. NBA changed 97 times since then. They'll fucking throw you in China or Yugoslavia. My nigga don't care how nice you is.

56:56You're not bigger than the program. Fall in line or you're gonna fall by the wayside. Tell me about it. That's right or wrong. I lived it. I lived it here. I got kicked off the Knicks in the middle of the winter I don't even have a job anymore how'd that happen? that was good that was a good question how'd that happen? Jayden rarely wants to know but that was a good one Corny Horny who was Corny Horny? Hornacek Jeff Hornacek? yeah what happened with him? he didn't fuck with me so Corny Horny he ran up on me like he wanted to fight me that's what happened but I mean look at the end of the day I'll take my part when I was on the Knicks I wasn't right like I just got surgery no no no this is like this is a fucking movie this is a movie I'm a free agent but I got hurt the year before I remember shoulder reconstruction so I do my surgery at HSS right the best place so I get the surgery popping like you know I'm taking the pills for the surgery like Percocets like I'm walking in the streets but I'm a free agent so I'm walking in these streets everybody yo Joaquin you coming home what's up I get the call from Phil Jackson a week before free agency I'm coming to New York shit is like dream come true shit but I'm already on my injuries piling up injuries piling up I hate that.

58:40It's the worst. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking ready. This is like dream come true shit, and I'm not right mentally. I'm in New York. The streets is calling. Do you know what I mean? I got a coach who don't fuck with me. Make it rain is number one about that time. Make it rain. Make it rain was hot. That was make it rain was hot. Make it rain was hot. And, you know, it's also, you got to understand, when you're playing in the NBA, the amount of money you make... But it's on the ticker. Like I remember being in the club when I signed my deal with the Knicks. I'm seeing people like, yo, look what Joakim did.

59:25You know what I'm saying? That's why my girl made, shout out my girl Robin. She made baller alert for that. You know, baller alert on Instagram? She made it so that when a baller comes in a club, they be like, yo, ladies, Joaquin Noah is worth 100 million. No, no, that's the true inception of baller alert. So that you could, like, know what these guys are making. Like, that's a fact. They know what you're making. It's crazy. Hey, about that? I don't disclose nothing. You go right now. They say Fat Joe worth like a million dollars right now in the net worth. I'm not worth nothing. Exactly. Don't tell them nothing.

1:00:05I'm not worth a thing. They told me I was worth a million dollars. I had a million, eight hundred thousand dollar watch on when I saw that shit in the net worth. I was like, OK, perfect. I'm good. You know what? They tell y 'all shit. So you out there doing the most is what you're saying. I'm doing it like so I get kicked off the Knicks. I get into it with Corny Horny. And now this is the first time in my life where I got a lot of money. I'm young, but I don't have a job. So I'm like, yo, if I stay in New York City right now, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. I'm fucking myself up. So I had to, I rented a house in LA.

1:00:48Thank God I had great mentors, Larry Hamilton, a big wave surfer. so from end of January all until December so it was like almost a year I had to train I was training by myself I didn't even have a team to rock with but thank God you know Memphis picked me up and I got to finish my career you know playing off the bench for a year and it was a blessing but like yo I had nine surgeries bro nine you know what I'm saying but like yo come on man Like, I got to live out, like, coming from here and being able to make money, take care of my kids, take care of my family. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got to live it at the highest level.

1:01:36The New York shit is like, when I go in there, it's like, damn, it hurt. I wish that. I wish it would have been better. You know what I'm saying? You know, they do that a lot. They have a tendency of bringing people when they a little bit past their prime. Say Rasheed Wallace. Everybody, man. Well, the Knicks do that. Not now. Not now, but the Knicks. Well, you know, I believe that Leon Rose and Wes changed the whole DNA of the New York Knicks. Because me personally, I would have never got rid of Lynn Sanity. And Tibbs. Tibbs changed the whole shit we went to the thing for 25 years we not even talking about that I'm talking about the DNA yeah yeah I forgot what happened somebody who's playing on the Knicks now when the Knicks read up his contract I couldn't believe it as a Knicks fan we always lose the nigga once they get nice they go and they brought him back I said oh they finally changing the DNA like Lynn Sanity I wouldn't have got rid of Lynn Sanity He was must-see TV.

1:02:46The man was on fire. Why wouldn't you bring the brother back? I didn't even understand. A lot of moves they were making, they wouldn't pick Ronald Chess because he was from New York. They was bypassing New York players, like homegrown, born. The Knicks had 30 years of trading away niggas that turned out they'd be incredible everywhere they went. Rod Strickland, Mark Jackson, everybody. everybody. But one of the reasons they were doing that was they too close to home. So what they, I'm telling you just from a fan, I felt like they didn't want Ronald Tess in his prime. They didn't want these guys because they from the city.

1:03:28They had a mentality of they too close to home. It's a real thing. They're out of control. It's a real thing. That's a real thing. What he is from the outside in, it's on the individual. You know he's going outside you know J.R. Smith's going outside. Brunson and Hart is in the library somewhere chilling out, eating wings and candy like. It's on the thing. It's great that we got some players that want to stay at home and do. Thank God. Thank God. You know, because I used to hate going to the strip club and seeing the star of the shit in there throwing money. I'd be like, yo, this shit crazy. These motherfuckers.

1:04:06What? In that same token, Mason and them was outside and he still was winning. This nigga Zion got like 32 strippers pregnant. I'd be really fucking mad. Oh man come on. Yo I would be really pissed if I was the fan of this shit. And Zion my guy I want him to play the greatest I wanted him to be that's the last guy I begged to be a fucking 32's a lot. Sick. 32's a lot. Listen Listen, you know, that's the fat Joe. You know what I'm saying? But I don't mean it like that. I don't want to. That's your 30. Yo, Zion, I don't want to. I love you, Zion, man. I'm a fan of your game when you're healthy. Don't say you love him after saying he got 32 baby strips.

1:04:50I know. I would be really mad if I went to every strip club and Zion was in there. And he's unhealthy and this and this. I'd be really pissed. And I went through that with the Knicks a lot. What's my man? He got shot in the knee. Cle Anthony. Cle Anthony outside of Starlitz. They fixed him bad. That was disgusting though. Any street nigga who had something to do with that, you know that was disrespect. Bro, the man, the athlete, you shoot him in his kneecap, it couldn't have been that serious. They should have gave it up. Gave what up? Whatever they wanted. So they was robbing him in his knee?

1:05:25That's fucked up. They just didn't like his knee. That was personal. Nah, that was personal. They shot him in his knee. That ain't had nothing to do with no robbery. Just me. Fat Joe, criminal, theology 101. one that was bigger than a robbery. They shot him in the knee. He was fucking somebody girl. They shot him in it. I'm telling you what must have happened. I don't know the facts. They're not robbing a dude shooting him in his knee. He was fucking somebody bitch. And they said, you know what? This is the third warning. Chaguito gave it to him. Chaguito. I'm telling you. But anyway. You need to go back to the record, man.

1:06:02I can't do it. Adrian be trying to get me. A-Budder trying to get me out there all the time. I can't do it. I would take the whole summer off. I wouldn't make a dollar. I'm number one. Okay. You could keep all your flags. You want to keep your flags and you want to throw them. I'm number one in America. What's love is number one in America. White America is begging to give me money. And I'd be like, yo, the whole summer's off. I got a coach and me. I'm a different coach. J-Butter's right here, one of my greatest players of all time. After the game, what we do? We go eat steaks, rice and beans and lobsters.

1:06:43It was a family. Before the game, we stretch together. I get on the floor. It's like I'm all in.

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1:10:42But my shit, you know what's crazy? I went to Harvard yesterday and I gave a lecture. Thank you at Harvard. But one of the best parts of the movie Malcolm X is when some girl, some white girl come up to him and says, I understand my ancestors wrong. I know we wrong. What can I do? He said, you can't do nothing for me, mama. I'm sorry. You know what I'm saying? One of the greatest point guards that ever lived, the greatest handles ever created was Bone Collector. And he came up to me one summer and we coming in the park and then we giving out the Terror Squad jersey. He says, Joe, my whole life, I want to win a chip.

1:11:24Yo, Joe, Joe, Joe. He said, how can I join? I said, you, my friend, cannot join the team. He was like looking at me. He had the greatest handle in the universe. And I was like, you don't want to win a championship. You want individual achievement. it and people didn't realize the rule was once we up by 20 then play the game alley you act stupid but i want fucking to win i'm going in there to win and you we play basic basketball till we blowing you out now we do the tricks know i'm saying they buddy they didn't understand that we walking up in there to win we have blue collars tell me some of the big guys we had dp the beast.

1:12:05Remember the beast? Oh my god. BJ the beast? Oh my god. BJ? He had abnormal strength. And he didn't want no limelight. He didn't want nothing. Who's the coach from Syracuse now? He played for us. Adrian Autry. Adrian Autry never bothered nobody. He played his team. He threw the backpack on and took the train and got out of there. He never hung out. There's guys like that. Oh, what was my man? It was the preacher. These are guys you'll never say their name. We couldn't win these chips without these guys. These guys got all the rebounds, made the right block at the right time. And, God, you know, we had guys that went in there to really win.

1:12:50Who was like, yo, we going to win a chip. It ain't just about the, you know what I'm saying? And so, you know, we're going to get to that. But it wasn't about that. And we, you know. Good times. Wow. Derek Rose, right? We had G. Herbo up here, young brother. You know, he's out there saying, you know, all these young dudes, my nephew is crazy out here. Man, these guys are crazy. My daughter's crazy. G. Herbo said that Derek Rose is better than Michael Jordan. He didn't really mean that. And so what he's just saying in his era when he grew up, he watched him in high school. How you gonna say he didn't mean that?

1:13:27How you know what he meant? He didn't mean that. And so what I'm saying to you is that in his era of high school, he saw Derrick Rose in the street games. He saw him in high school. He grew up. He's homegrown. Yeah. And then he excelled to be the youngest MVP. How unfortunate was his injuries and how great of a player he was already a great. I mean, even his last year, he scored like 51 somewhere. Right. When Derrick Rose in his prime, when he stepped onto the court, it was like the energy for the team. Like, you know what I feel like when somebody pull up to the court and you're like, oh, we winning?

1:14:12Every time he was on the court, you felt like you had a chance you could win. I mean, we're not talking about the athleticism and all those things. Athleticism was out of control. It was out of control. He was a killer. D-Rose must-see TV. Must-watch TV. Oh, shit. But when the injury happened, it was like somebody died, bro. That's what it felt like. It was like, yo, we were winning the championship that year. There was no question in my mind. It was like, we just lost to the Heat in the Eastern Conference the year before. We're young boys, and now it's our fucking time. That's what it felt like.

1:14:51So when he got hurt, it was like we didn't have a shot anymore. Damn. Even talking about it now, it still hurts. It still hurts because it's like, it's the biggest what if like, you know, it's like when you really want, when you care about like, I hear you talking about the ruck guys. Like, I see how passionate you are about the winning. He was all of that. He embodied all of that. And the way he embodied Chicago during that time, it was like, it was crazy, man. It was like, you know, Chicago is a crazy place. You know, different. Like we talk about streetball shit. You can't even do the street ball shit over there in Chicago.

1:15:28They can't do it. It's too violent. Kids are dying every day. You know? So what Derek represented coming from that and representing that in the way that he represented that every day on the court. These young kids were just like... He was a guy. Yeah. Yeah, it was all of that. And he was like humble. You know, it was like all that. The way he carried himself through the fucking bright lights. You know, it was like, it was impressive. You know, I see a lot of guys get caught up in the lights. You know, like when the lights come, it's like, yo, you don't know how you caught, you lost in the sauce.

1:16:07That should be a new term you bring back and you recycle. Lost in the sauce. You lost in the sauce. You guys are lost in the sauce. Yeah. But the best, man. Best human. Fuck basketball. like in terms of brotherhood and the loyalty that he has for his people, the way he takes care of his people. Like, man, shout out Pooh. Honestly, I'm impressed. I love people. Like you see it. Like when you go through adversity, you see who's a real motherfucker. And when motherfuckers have real success, you also see that shit too. You know what I'm saying? Like, can you have a humility about yourself when, you know, when you're around, when people look at you as great.

1:16:51Now, when you're young, I give every rapper a two-year grace period, right? Because I asked Lil' Cocky Kyle who came here. He's a young boy that's on fire. And I said, yo, I know what it's like for people, regular people to know me, yo, Fat Joey. And then the next day I got a hit and they running like, yo, Fat Joe, yo, yo, yo, yo. For me, it takes like two years to get off that cloud and then we'll see who you truly are. Did you let the fame get to you? The money get to you? The success? You know, you don't know how many rappers I've seen come in humble and two years later, they got a purple Yorkie dog with them and they start acting like they forgot the whole shit.

1:17:34So I give them two years because it takes two years. It takes two years for a girl who barely got men to all of a sudden be a sex symbol and every guy they ever thought and the history of mankind is rapping to them every day at a club and all that. It takes two years for all that shit to settle down, soak in. Now, if you're an asshole, you're an asshole. If you're gas or you think who you are, you are who you are, or you come back to earth and you're pretty much who you are. So when you're young, I can see people getting caught on that shit, but then you got to figure out life. Somebody got to know what they talking about out there.

1:18:14I give them a grace period. You know what I mean? Anybody who just come into money, come into fame, you know, they got to get used to this new lifestyle of what's going on. And, you know, and if you full of shit, you full of shit. And we've seen more full of shitters than, you know, I always ask Angie this. Angie Martinez, one of my wife's best friends, she's always in the house. I be like, your Ange. Angie don't talk shit either, though. But I be asking Ange, your Ange, what are the artists? Because she's in the radio. she walks them come for the first spin and then they come by the next year the next year the next year and I ask her quietly beyond the scene like who are some artists she like Joe please have you even start to believe the shit that I seen on the radio of how people switched up and they get caught up in the fame the lights the money but one thing that bugs me out about athletes you the man college you the man NBA the crowd is screaming for you you walk in how hard is it as an athlete when you retire and you don't hear that no more you know us Patti LaBelle I just seen her on TV she's going on tour 81 years old Smokey Robinson and them they still rocking 80 years old the artists as long as you got a voice God willing you can keep going the athlete is an expiration date.

1:19:45For real. And what does that feel like? No expiration date. No, no, they got the paper. Oh, no. Yeah, that's what you need. Bro, my neighbor in Miami is Jamal Mashburn. He ain't playing 50 years. He's up. He walk around with his wife like, Hi, Joe. I'd be like, damn, then they gotta have it. You know. Of course they up financially if they didn't blow the bag. Yeah. Well, it's more than the bag. Like the bag is definitely a piece of it, but it's true. You're, you, you're playing in front of 20 ,000 people, you know, for as long as you play. And then all of a sudden when it's, when it's done, it's like, you don't get that no more ever.

1:20:28You're not, you're not the gladiator anymore. Your frequency as a competitor, like who you are as a competitor, like you got to change. Like, I can't be like, yo, fuck that. It's not that anymore. It's not fuck that team, fuck that city. We over here, we coming in. If I live my life how I was as a competitor now, you'd be in trouble. I'd be in trouble. So I had to change my whole mindset knowing like, okay, I'm not playing in those games anymore. It's about bringing people together. and I'm really careful how I, because with these shorties, the way I talk about like this generation, the game is different.

1:21:16The money is bigger. The expectations are bigger. The pressure is bigger. When you get dunked on, the whole world sees it on their phone. When I was playing, it was still - If you bump into somebody with the Beijing on their shirt, the whole world sees it. Shout out to Jalen Brown. We're working on him coming on the box. Rewind at 10. We're working right now as we speak. We're deliberating numbers right now. We need him on a new box. That way he can have a brand he can trust. Rewind at 10 is the Rose Royce of hair coloring. I thought that was for beards, not for roofs. No, that's the... Yeah, we got the shit for the shoppers.

1:21:55We got beard and hair. What are you talking about? We got hair too. Travis Kelsey is hair. We ain't got no bums on these box. But anyway, Jalen Brown. Welcome to the family. Jalen Brown, welcome to the family. Come on, man. Let's make it happen, man. He better, when y 'all sign this shit, when he white, it better be night. No, it won't. It won't. It won't. Come on, bro. You know better than that shit. You fucking doing the show with me every day. Do I look like this shit come off? My shit, the Rolls Royce. My bad. Your shit is right. Joakim, I'm going to be honest with you. You're the first person with the ringer went off in 60 episodes.

1:22:31My bad. My bad. My bad. It's fucked up. I'm going to turn this shit off. Got to be some friend shit or something going on. You got a new show coming up. Tell us about it. Yeah, man. I'm really proud of this. Like, you know, first I want to thank the Knicks because without the Knicks, I'm in a position now where if it doesn't get me crunk, I'm not fucking with it. Like, if it doesn't get me hype, I'm not doing it. And that's a blessing to be able to say no. Man, I don't know how to do that. It's a blessing to say no. So shout out to the Knicks. Me and Jada still doing the chitlin circuit. We can't say no.

1:23:08Our families want to spend money like a motherfucker. They selling them boots that don't fit, all kind of shit. We'll be at a bar in Alabama for you right quick. So go ahead. Shout out to the Knicks. Shout out to the guys, like, you know, the guys who got it done last year. What's the show? Tell me the show. No, but I want to thank the Knicks first for getting this shit done because now I can walk around New York more comfortably. There was a time when I was walking around the city, you know, people thought I was stealing money every time I walked in the street. Now the Knicks are good. I could come home again comfortably.

1:23:45So I want to give a shout out to the guys before we talk about the show. But right now I'm starting a travel show called Nomad. I'm hype as hell. I get to travel. Knicks gave you this show? No, the Knicks didn't give me the show, but I just wanted to give a shout out to the Knicks first. The show is... Nomad. The show is Nomad. I'm working with a media company called NBA Take Two. And we started in Chicago. Then we went to Morocco. And we're using... Was it Casablanca or Macarish? Ooh, okay. No, it was Casablanca, Rabat. You didn't meet the little man. You were talking about... You got a little man like this that you fucked up on your show.

1:24:28I ain't seeing him. You should have went and found the little man. I heard you talking about him before. I swear to God you should have went to Makadesh, put the little guy on the show. You've won every award in the world, man. Oh, man. Shit, man. This shit be bigger than him. He like in the box of rewind, he look like he ducking. In Marrakesh? Ask French Montana. Yo, that's crazy. French Montana, the little guy you fucked up. I fucked up. They should have already known. You going to Morocco. Go find the little guy. No, we found a rapper, El Grande Toto. Shout out to my main man, Toto, man. We went to Casablanca.

1:25:10We went to his hood. He showed us a great time. Like, this guy's like... You got the guys that do this and shit? Like, for like hours and shit? The snakes, the snakes, dog. Shit like this. While you eating, the nigga just going like this. And he got some shit in his head for hours. You been there? Yo, hours. You eating. Let me get the head. Hey, nigga's there for like five hours. He's just going like this. This shit dizzy like a motherfucker. Like, he don't get dizzy. The best people, man. The people over there are awesome. But we just went before Hurricane Melissa. We were just in Jamaica with Rohan.

1:25:49Rohan Marley. Rohan Marley. Lying order. Lying order in the fucking house. Shout out to Rohan. You know Rohan Marley? Yes. You know, Rohan Marley's my man. He's my God. Rohan Marley has been, damn, if I could have said what I really was going to say, I'm getting the flag. But Rohan Marley has gotten to the bag in the same place as a fed. Say they say behind door number one, you know, they doing business. They handing out bags. When I opened the door, Rohan's in there already. He's like, hey, Fat Joey starts smiling like we done hit the same plugs up. A million times everywhere I go, yo, Rohan.

1:26:28Yeah, Joe, I'm over here too. So Rohan's a hustler. So he took you to Jamaica. He took me to Jamaica. Like, talk about ghetto royalty. You know, I mean, that name, you know, I mean, look, at the end of the day, what Bob Marley did for the world, man, is just. And what the Marleys do for the world. Because they've been feeding they people for years and years and years and years. They could trust the Marlies. I guarantee you right now with this hurricane, they doing a lot out there. Them guys don't never stop giving to people. I don't know how they run out. Such beautiful people, man. They for they people, man.

1:27:11I trust them with my life, the Marlies. I just got to keep it real with you. And I'm not their best friend. I'm not with them all the time. but them people stand for something. Yeah, they do. You know what I'm saying? They righteous. They stand for something and you got to salute them for what they do for they people. So you went out there. You know, just like for Rohan and Steven was out there too, going to Hope Road where Bob bought his house, you know, when he started making the records. We went to Trench Town where he grew up. We were up in Nine Mile where he's buried. Shout out Uncle Rich for making all that possible for us.

1:27:47But just to, you know, so much of that music just gave me so much power while I was playing. You know what I'm saying? It was obviously like hip hop, New York, but there was also that part, like the Rasta, Bob Marley. So I wanted to just, you know, show that. And Rohan just opened so many doors and just so many cool, really interesting interviews. I got to interview Bob's lawyer. You know what I mean? Just like great conversation. So, yo, check out my show, Nomad. Where's it available at? It's going to be on YouTube. You know, we're going to have it. We launch it next week. So, yeah, check me out, man.

1:28:28You know, I sampled Bob Marley one time, and he was not clearing the sample. And you know me, I send the yard man, the Rasta, DJ Khaled, to the Marley complex. So the Rasta go there, and he smoked blunts with them for like eight hours. and he think they don't know why he's there, and they turn around at the eighth hour and be like, so yeah, come here for the big month, you know, for the clearance, tell them we clear it. Callie went over there. I see your Callie came back so high. I see your Callie, you were so high. He was waiting for eight hours smoking. Ball, ball, he's the day. They go, and they told him at the eighth hour, they look at someone knowing what you're here for, Star.

1:29:11You're winning clearance for the big month. You tell them we love Fat Joe. We love him. We're going to clear it for you, Khaled. Don't worry. We're not wired here. He get up out of there. These people, great people, man. And you got that. I got that. Man, I watched that movie on Bob Marley a couple of times. I went to the movie theater like two, three times to see that shit. But I'm looking forward to your show. I love shows like that. You know my man who died? Michael K. Oh, no. Bourdain, too. But Michael K. with the skull. Yes. Huh? Omar. Oh, man. I'm off on the wire, but what's his real name?

1:29:48Michael Williams. Michael K. Michael K. Williams. He had a show like that, too, that was really, really dope. And I like that because, you know, I watched this brother. I've really got to get your name. I've watched you. I know you don't know, but Fat Joe watches you all the time. It's a show on YouTube where the man go to Africa. He go to Cuba. He go to Colombia. I'm learning so much about the world watching this dude. Black brother, he goes abroad, and there's a whole black community in Colombia. The all African, Spanish-speaking, and he up in there to Choco. He in Cuba. He in Cape Verdea. That's beautiful.

1:30:32He in Puerto Rico. He in Santo Domingo. This guy go all over, and I watch him to learn the real. Like they go into the town and they're not just glorifying the bad shit or the this. They just showing you what it is. I mean, they come with a juice. Yo, this is a juice from here. This is the meal from over here and this. And I learned so much from this guy on YouTube. I'm going to find out his name because I said to myself, I got to big this guy up. Not that he needs me because he's doing great on there, but I love watching shit like that and learning. I might go to Cape Verdea now because I seen that episode and it was such beautiful water and beautiful flowers.

1:31:17You know, I'm into the flowers and the water and everything. But that's his name. Kamori Martin is his name. You sure I got the right one? Show me his picture. I don't want to give the wrong guy props because there's a lot of them. That's dope, man. I didn't know that Omar had a show like that. Oh, yeah, he did. And he was almost like, what's that channel? Nah, this ain't the guy I'm talking about. Nah, it was a different guy. This ain't the guy. My guy ain't got no money like this. This guy got fancy suits and all that. My guy's a regular guy. Nine to fiver. He go out there and he make it happen.

1:31:57He ain't the one. Shout out Hard Rock Bet. You want to bet on the games and all that? NBA predictions this year. You jump out the window, future. Who you think going to take the East? Who you think going to take the West? Who's going to win the chip? Rookie of the year, defensive. Just early, you know it's still. All right, so East, the Knicks got to take it this year. They got to take the East. We ain't disagreeing with that one, baby. Got to take, the Knicks got to take it. This is the year. But, you know. Who? Who? Say no more. I'm with you. Who? And then in the West, the West is tricky, but I think it's still early.

1:32:38I like the Rockets. Amen. It's too bad that that point guard, Fred Van Clee got hurt. Clee. Yo, we called him Van Clee. Crucio. Nah, he's Van Clee. Yo. Nah, what's his name? Yo, what's his name? the light-skinned dude from up in Toronto. Van Fleet. Van Fleet, close enough, goddammit. Van Cleef and Van Fleet, the same shit. He's a hell of a player. That's my dog, man. Van Fleet and Van Cleef is the same shit. That's fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up. He won a chip in Toronto. He's a very great player. But finally, finally, Kevin Durant is making a difference. finally. They put a... Nah, he went on a team.

1:33:36He won a chip for free over there at Golden State. Ever since then, we've been waiting for the match. I don't got nothing to do with this. I'm telling you the truth. Yo, listen. It don't matter to me. It's got nothing to do with this. He finally... He reached... Listen. He fits in that system. He went to fucking Phoenix stunk it up to all them places. I'm keeping it a buck with you. But finally, the chemistry, he was the right piece. I'm not saying he ain't one of the greatest of all time. I'm just talking about fitting in with a system right now. He looking like a superstar with that. But they picked the right guy for that.

1:34:22System, OKC and Denver to me out the West. Somebody, one of these two is coming out the West. That's it. Nobody, they ain't beating them. At the end of the day, that towel be over they head and they'll walk out the tunnel like they always do. But MVP prediction, my MVP of the NBA for the next four to five years is called Wimba Yamba. If Wimba Yamba doesn't get hurt. It's a wrap. It is a wrap. Yeah, just give them all the awards. Give them everything. Give them all. Wimba Yamba. You see this guy, your butter. 7-7. You missed what you came late. You know, he's punching. You know, this guy's coming like, holy shit.

1:35:05He's over here. And it's all by the way. Somebody's trying to score. He's smacking shit. This guy. It's his league. It's his league. There's nobody else. Nobody else. Gotta get a little bit stronger. Wimby Yamba, MVP. New York Knicks championship. Who else we talking about? Rookie of the year. Gotta be if he plays. He acts in his predictions. How you took his answer? I'm sorry. He said the Knicks. Who else? What's the question? Question is who you think is going to win the chip? Who's coming out the West? What you said, Houston? I said Houston. Who's MVP of the league? Wemby. I'm with you. What he did.

1:35:44You on drugs. I'm not on anything. You on drugs. Who's your MVP? Tell me now. Who's your MVP of the fucking league? Luka. Oh, shit. Luka? Luka. He ain't winning shit. Here is Wendy. Look at the numbers, though. Yo! Yo, what? Look at these numbers. Luka looking good. Let me tell you, let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. Because the biggest shit, the euphemism. Okay? They're going back there now. All right, now the youth, they fucking out of that area, dawg. You're not listening to me. The euphemism, last couple of years, was saying Michael Jordan ain't the greatest. He was playing against white boys.

1:36:25I didn't hear that. I heard that. He played against what's called Malone, the white boy, stocked into this. The biggest shit they saying in the hood is he was playing against white boys. They try to act like Larry Bird wasn't white. He wasn't good. He was. I'm telling you. Yo, Kiss, you outside, outside. You should know this. Larry Bird is white and is white. Yo, nephew, say the truth. They say that MJ wasn't the greatest because he played against white niggas. right now they got white niggas busting they ass dizzy nigga on TV every day the Joker Luca you know the move every time you get them niggas are white they from Yugoslavia you know what a Serbian do to you they are white that's a different white we're not talking about all American that's not the same white that's Serbian Yeah.

1:37:24Can they break a gun with a selfie? Yeah. Now we got different white people? We got different. Very, we got very different whites. He called Van Fleet. This Confederate. Yo, go fuck out of here. All of them sits got a different white nigga. They ain't this thing. Yo, bro. For you to go around the world and don't know that, it's killing me. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about where they have the white people. what I've been hearing in the hood yo MJ ain't the greatest of all time he used to play white boys he used to just you gotta stop thinking you ain't hear that I heard that Mike every day by the way I'm in the studio every day with 20 haters these guys are telling that shit all the time I cool now I'm looking at TV you just call Luca the MVP if it ain't Luca MVP MVP.

1:38:18I ain't called him the MVP. All right, MVP. He's a white boy. I don't know if he's from Yugoslavia or Serbia or whatever. I'm looking at a white boy balling. When I look at Joker, he's a white boy balling. I don't give a fuck if he's from Texas, the middle of America, whatever. He's a white boy. They are telling me that Michael Jordan is not the greatest of all time because he was busting white boys' ass. Not pause. I wasn't there. I never heard it. I heard it. is either the youth said they didn't see him or something like that. So, Bron and Colbin, this and that. I never heard they said he wasn't nice because he played against white people.

1:38:53That didn't even make sense. I know, I've heard that. Stockman and some of them white people and some of the nicest white niggas ever played. Kerr. Kerr was on his team. Horny Hornacek. Corny Horny. Corny Horny was nice. He was nice. Kerr. What was my man on Chicago? The boy, that boy was nice. Paxton. Paxton was nice, but no, what's the other guy? Tony Kukos. He's a regular white guy too, right? I never said the white niggas ain't nice. You talking to the wrong guy, I'm telling you what they talk about in the barbershop. I'm not talking about what, I'm not saying. He need a global studies course.

1:39:32That's what the barbershop is saying. He need a global studies class. Serbia, that's a different white. Croatia, that's a different, They've been through some shit over there. Listen, you ever met the Hong Kong's Mongolia? Man, you talking about the wrong guy. I've been all over the globe. I know what you're talking about. I'm just telling you. All right, let's talk rookie of the year. I'm giving it to the white boy if he ball like he's supposed to. Cooper. Cooper. Who you giving it to? VJ Edgecombe doing work. He ain't getting the same kind of publicity, but he's fucking dominating right now.

1:40:13He's nice, but I like cool. I like cool.

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1:43:47DJ Khaled had a rule. DJ Khaled was already rich, and he DJed on a thing in the radio. I don't give a fuck if he had the flu, the mumps, the web. He would not take a day off DJing. Because he always told me, yo, there's somebody more hungry than me. He said, somebody going to come out here and DJ so crazy and they're going to take my slot. And LeBron caught a little sciatica and let Reeves and them boys go. And them niggas out here scoring 51. I have one. Damn. This is why this is the number one podcast. We don't hide this shit. LeBron fucked up. I am telling you he might be on the trading block now without him knowing.

1:44:39Okay. You don't think so? They're not doing that, Jada. Jada. Okay. No. Okay. Can I speak my piece? Go ahead. Go ahead. Can I speak my piece? Of course. Can I speak? No, no. Ron's on the trading block. Ron ain't on no damn trading block, dog. He ain't never getting traded. They let these guys go who's getting$2 right. He's never getting traded. Okay, can I say something? They just, they scored fifth. You're going to have Rich Paul up here next week. All right, so what if? That's cool. I'm going to tell them in this straight. You think I'm scared of Rich Paul? It's not about being scared. Are you fucking crazy?

1:45:15It's about saying something stupid. It's bronze on the trading block. I'm not saying nothing stupid. but I'm telling you that I'm going to ask him. You just said he was on the training block. LeBron fucked up. LeBron took a couple of days off. And did you know that Austin Reed could score 51 points and 40 points a game? Did you know? You've been watching all the games. He didn't know. Did you know? Well, hello. We know now. So you rather have. LeBron is 40 years old. You know who LeBron is, dog. So you think they'd rather lose to LeBron just to have LeBron? because if LeBron come and try to take the game over, it's a wrap.

1:45:52Same old Lakers. This shit they running right now, it's a new Lakers. And I speak. If LeBron don't come in there, play his position. It's eight games. It's eight games. What LeBron is in right now is one of the teams when he wins the chip. He don't got to do that much. He don't got to do shit. LeBron was doing everything when he was winning the chip. Yo, what teams you was watching? LeBron was playing five people. No, that's young LeBron. I'm talking after he's got with Wade and Bosh and everybody else, he gets the teams where he can save his gears to the playoffs. They can hold it like they're doing now.

1:46:29When they engage, it's something you can't do. Fat Joe, early prediction, shoot me whatever, fuck the comments up, this, this, that. LeBron James is getting traded by the L.A. Lakers. As soon as he go out there and stick it up, my nigga. As soon as he go out there and stick it up. You better get a whole new phone. That boy gone He's gone His phone is gonna catch on fire He's gone brother He showed it Yo listen He let the chin out He spoked his chin out He ain't getting traded He spoked his chin out Marlon Brando gonna come back From the death and shit And all them Jack Nicholson's And all them guys And they're going to be like, yo, we don't.

1:47:15I'm trying to tell you. Let them sit out of two more weeks and let them kids keep scoring 50-something. Come back in the game and them niggas are scoring 12 points, running behind Brown and keep losing. They're not doing that. Five games to 82 games is a big difference, dog. The Knicks traded Patrick Ewing. Chicago Bulls traded Scottie Pippen. Yeah, not Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan went to Washington. Never traded. He left. Yo, these teams don't give a fuck. These teams, if it's something. This is awesome. Listen. If it's something. If it's something. You bugging, dog. You tweaking right now.

1:47:58If it's something the NBA has taught you, it is zero to no loyalty. You haven't been watching. When it's your time. It's the NBA, and then there's LeBron. Have you been watching? That's what you thinking. All right. And I'm trying to tell you. You act like you haven't been watching what he's doing. That's what you're thinking. Can you answer my question? That's what you're thinking. What was he? What the? How powerful is he thus far? Little sciatic. How powerful has he been? Not no more. I'm telling you right now. They put the young boys on the floor. Weak it, dog. All right? He can get Austin Reeves out of here right now.

1:48:37No, he can't. I bet you. No, he can't. Not no more. Sorry. Sorry. Not right now, baby. Not right now, baby. I'm a LeBron fan. You don't see that white lady? She's on his chest. Where the homers? They ain't touching Austin Reed. Breaking news. Breaking news. It ain't Woj no more. It ain't Woj no more. All right. He got 20 years of being great. Don't matter. They don't just get fit. Fat Joe sold millions of records, walked in Atlantic. One day they took the poster down and it was T.I., nigga. You got it fucked up. They still didn't take his poster now. You got this fucked up. You bugged. Your day comes.

1:49:21You bugged. He poked his cheek out. He got the most push. Let them see. You think I'm crazy? You gonna see. He passed Kareem. Okay. That's all I'm gonna tell you. 20. They ain't gonna disrespect him like that. 20 more games. 20 more. Yo, we talking about this shit viral. Okay, two-time I fell in. I know how this shit go off. Stop. I know how this go let him roll cause they gonna fry his ass and this one anyway two times I know it shit I know how it go don't stop me in the middle of a process of elimination you think the comment these guys are scared to talk like this they about to get together trying to talk to this nigga I believe when this comes on they gonna kill yo it came a time it came a time I'm not crazy you are crazy K K K, K, K.

1:50:11I was 21 years old, about 22. I walked into Apollo Theater. I got a rope chain on. What? Hold up. I walked into Apollo Theater. I got a rope chain on. Pause. I see a guy from the back. His neck is this big. He turned around and I said, holy shit. That's Mike Tyson. He's Iron Mike. Six years later, Kenneth Johnson was knocking him out of the ink. the same shit. I'm trying to tell you, you don't get paid 2025 for what you did in 2020 18 or 19 or whatever. Rich, you're a diehard Laker fan, Rich. If LeBron comes in, hold up. You're the actually most loyal fan. You're a Dallas fan after they not so good.

1:51:04Let me ask you a question. Tell them. LeBron comes in at 20 games. They keep going. 20 games, Austin Reed, 51. The other dudes playing. They playing, playing. LeBron come back and start that shit. And y 'all start, y 'all keep losing. And y 'all can't do it no more. It's the old LeBron. Yo, we got to understand this, this, that. The coach going to trade him? He got the coach. He picked the coach. Who's going to trade him? It's a new day. Who the fuck's going to trade him, bitch? It's a new day. They ain't going to trade him. He didn't even play yet. Let him play. Yeah, he didn't even play a game.

1:51:37He got him traded. He put him on the block. He didn't even see what he's going to do. It's not even the first quarter. They traded everybody in history. They didn't trade LeBron. Okay. They didn't trade Jordan. They didn't trade Kobe. It's mad niggas they didn't trade. LeBron ain't a Laker. They traded him to replace LeBron. When LeBron hangs it up, it goes back to Akron. He ain't a Laker like Kobe. When it's all said and done, that fucking Raptor, that shit going up in Cleveland. It ain't going up in the Lakers. He's got other cities, dog. He's LeBron. He did something nobody did. Business-wise, all of that shit.

1:52:16God bless LeBron. They're not going to trade him. God bless LeBron. I did a show with him on Stars. He gave me the opportunity. He can't even trade him, man. You a legend. He can't even trade him. He can't get traded. You saying that with one boot on. He can't get traded. Pull out on two-time fellas. Can he get... You got a no-trade poker. Yeah, what are you talking about? He's on the trading. Okay. He can't fucking get traded. He can't get traded. He protected himself? He can't get traded. Good. How about that? Man, they really mad now. I'm like, Genie Boss, Genie Boss looking at the shit. Genie Boss like, yo, this shit is crazy.

1:52:58We can't trade him for the 51ers? you gotta do 51 for years you just better know Austin Reeves Austin Reeves learn from Jadakiss yesterday's price is not today's price yesterday's price is not today's price it's doing great man let's talk about the Noah's Ark Foundation y 'all can't get hyped like this now we gonna talk about foundation Y 'all not going to do it like that. I'm not coming in talking about foundation after this debate. I'm just happy to be here. I don't want to talk about charity. I don't want to talk about charity. I'm listening. This is awesome. I came on a podcast, but I love this shit.

1:53:49I love this shit. Yeah. I love this shit. You know, I didn't realize it was going to get like this. I didn't realize how passionate it was about basketball. Like, holy shit. You guys are in it. We really passionate about this shit. And with that being said, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss, goddammit. Make some noise for our brother, Joaquin Noise. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, A-Budder, come here. A-Budder, I'm talking about A-Budder all the time. A-Budder, tell him about your book. A-Budder, right here, right here, right here. You know he from all when he coming with the pink sweats.

1:54:28I love you to death. Yo, don't turn nothing off. Tell him your book. Go ahead, brother. Brother, tell him whether you can find it. No, no, you need the mic. I like that shit. A whole lot of games. Hold on. Get right. Get right. Let me get out of here. Joaquin Noah. Love, brother, always, man. Thank you. Brother, love. Right quick. Always, you know that quick. Hey, brother, it's in the building. Harlem's finest terror squad's own. Shout out to Tony Rosa. He let us borrow him. Yes, sir. Tell us about your book. I got a book out right now called The Whole Lotta Game, trying to put the kids on and the next generation on how to, you know, transition and look at entrepreneurship and financial literacy in a different way.

1:55:18Who's the guys you connected with on the financial literacy? On our block, Mocafine Bank. Yeah, I'm tapping with them, and we're doing some good different things within the community. So, you know. Hey, but from player to player, from young kid right now who'll be the next hottest in the city, this and this and that, or all around, give me one thing you could tell them not to do to get into the NBA. What should they avoid to get into the NBA? Because you're the one guy I always go to that I say should have been in the NBA, but didn't make it to the NBA because, you know, you was a star in Harlem.

1:56:00Like you was in the NBA in Harlem. All the girls want you, everybody with you, Cameron, your cousin, this, this, that. What bit of advice would you give some kids coming up in the game that got a lot of potential to get to the NBA, what they shouldn't do? What they shouldn't do is focus on what others are saying. stay true to yourself you know what I'm saying continue to learn be more of a listener that was one of my mistakes when I was young I didn't really listen too much so you know as you get older you don't want to sit back and say oh if I would have knew this nah be honest you wasn't listening accountability you know what I mean that's really like a big main thing for me to help the next generation and spread that word about just being accountable When you start to be accountable, you'll grow.

1:56:53Facts. Richie Parker. Richie Parker. Nah. Richie Parker should have been in the NBA. Kareem Reid, we went and got him a tryout with the Knicks. Yeah. They don't know. I took a guy off the street, pulled him in with Isaiah Thomas, gave him a tryout. Isaiah said, man, this guy came in smelling like blunts. We can't do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, NBA different. Man, I just told you Tony Parker ate a bean for breakfast, bro. Like, he was eating asparagus for fucking lunch. Kareem Reid coming off of Harlem. Yeah, you the man in Harlem. But when they running them drills in the garden, it's shit different.

1:57:32I don't know if you remember, but Kiss, he had Rough Riders. He had the first father and son that we ever seen, which was Steve Burt Sr. and Steve Burt Jr. Legends of... What's going to do, man? You know what I mean? You talking about my brother.

1:57:49Stick to the verses. Don't talk about coaching at the rocker, me. Stick to the verses. Stick to verses. Don't talk about the rocker. You definitely, you had Jamal Tinsley. I got to give you your props. You know what I mean? Jamal Tinsley was dead nice. Don't slow to him, brother. Serious satellite. Shout out to Kenny Satterfield. Listen, don't slow to him, brother. I got to give him like too much. Those was, those was, I mean, we had the best of the city, but he did have some dogs. I got to keep it real. Hold up. Hey, butter, the other day, I forgot his name, and I don't want to get killed. But the other day, I'm at the Knick game, and they playing Cleveland, and one of the guys that used to play at the Rucker is the assistant coach.

1:58:30Omar Cook. Omar fucking Cook. So he's a person now. Cook. Holy shit. Let me tell you something. I grabbed him. This is not a mistake. Listen to me, Jokey. I watched him in the streets. When he see you don't know his name, he going to be mad at him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, I'm fried. Niggas know I'm fried. I don't remember my name. I'm keeping it real with you. When this man came up to say what's up to Fat Joe, I almost cried, bro. I looked at him and I said, you the coach? He said, yo, I'm the coach. I was like, congratulations, man. God bless you, man. Like, I can't believe it.

1:59:13It's Omar fucking Cook. And I went, I told my wife, I told 100 people that day. I was like, yo, this kid used to play at the Rucker. I can't believe I don't know his name. I knew you would know his name. I should have called you at the time so I don't look stupid. You got Sham Guard. He's doing what Orlando Magic. You got Sham Diss Me. I don't know if I'm big enough up no more. You got Royale Ivy. You know what I mean? He's always been coaching, assistant coach. He was in the Brooklyn Nets. He don't get that coaching. You know what I mean? Or Royale Ivy. He used to play for Cardoza, went to Texas.

1:59:45You know what I mean? Tony Rosa, one of the greatest coaches. Always shout out Tony Rosa. Always. But hold up, Joaquin. Hold up. Always. Tony Rosa, one of the greatest coaches. But Tony Rosa, who's somebody I respect too much for coaching, the day we put a terror squad uniform on Abe Butter, he was the Indian man crying when the TV came off. Them niggas just said, he had another, it's another Spanish nigga that was with Tony Rosa. Brother of Rock Rose. Oh, my God. When he walked in, I worked on him all winter. Took him to Miami, drop top, Bentley steaks, and lobsters, whatever you want. This, I worked, because he used to kill us.

2:00:27He was the Terror Squad killer. I mean, we went triple four, overtop, said the lights came up. Also, BMF. Him and Steph on Mulberry. BMF was throwing money out the helicopter at his pool party, just to reiterate. Shout out to Butterfuco and Khaled. They hugged me for both. You know, I said I started Memorial Weekend. They called me up. I got death threats from the Jamaican mafia. They called me up, said Butterfuco was with you, Joe. You erased a mind history. I said, no. Butterfuco, thank you for being one of the biggest promoters. We did Memorial Weekend together. But you, you seen some shit out there.

2:01:07But what I'm saying is the day, that part, because he was the terror squad killer. The day he walked in with that jersey. Tony Rosa couldn't believe it because he coached you since what, high school? Since I was like 14, 15. I used to play for the Mustang. Shout out to the Mustang. And I love, love, love Tony Rosa. And I wasn't happy about it, but I couldn't. This guy was going to beat us. He was really the only coach. He was going to take one of the chips. You know what I mean? If we being honest, there was a lot of y 'all. You know what I mean? He was the real coach out there. I had to buy him out.

2:01:39I had to bring him. He was killing us. He going up against Stephon Mulberry, 3.3, 3.3, 3.3, 3.3, 3.3, 3.3. I said, bro, Joe, if you can't beat him, join him. You got to join A Butter. The Terran Squad joined A Butter. I had to get that man off the market. Yeah, he had a team out there, too. I don't know if you remember Pearl Harbor. I remember him. Hell yeah. Yeah, Andre Barrett and all of them. Just shout out to them. Shout out to Andre Barrett. You know what I mean? They out there. They in the league. Andre Barrett was somebody I thought should have really, really went. He was there. No, he was there, but I mean, like, really.

2:02:16Out there. You want to know what happened to Andre Barrett? Because I'm a huge Andre Barrett fan. He didn't do him. So he came in the league and he was doing what they told him to do, pass the ball, this, this, that. I was waiting for him to do him. and so he was such a company guy he brought him in but he never did him and if he would have did him he would have had a longer career in the NBA how proud of us was this Skip Tamalu Skip Tamalu caught a check too huh? he caught a real fucking check we're in Houston? Houston Skip is probably the greatest story in Rucker history in streetball history he's the one guy that I've seen doing it remember the year we had Skip he came and played that's when he won the championship again three other guys I gotta go up against to make sure I play when they took that ball out and Skip was like that crowd couldn't and he passed it to Steph and Steph used to do that shit where he'd go low and do some shit it was almost like Matrix remember that shit the way he used to that's how he used to come in Then they pass it to Ream.

2:03:32Ream do the circle up. It was just too much. It was too much. It was like Camelot, my nigga. Royal team. We had too many more. One day we put Steph on with AI out there. They was killing it. One day we had a game with Steph on and AI. They were the two best point guards. Kerry Thompson. Shout out to Natural Controller. You know what I mean? I got to make sure. Rest in peace to Greg Marius and Ali Mo. You know what I'm saying? Man, Greg Marius, a man of honor. we can't talk bad in the Roc Nation building but anybody else would have found a way to give that game to Jay-Z and Roc Nation or cancel it or this the man said y 'all Fat Joe and them won that took a lot of heart for that man to say that you know what I'm saying so shout out Greg Marius I also went when he was passing away I went to the hospital he requested me to go there and man what a good man bro what a great man Greg Marius and the whole family peace y 'all this ain't that that ain't this it's A-Button and Crack and Kiss let's go put the music for MASH on right now

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