In short
Joe and Jada (Fat Joe and Jadakiss) trade stories about hip-hop history and street life, including how they saw Eminem’s first NYC show, how Suge Knight’s fear factor affected the industry, and how Fat Joe and Big Pun’s relationship helped form Terror Squad. They also discuss beef dynamics, including the idea of squashing the 50 Cent beef.
Guests (hosts)
Fat Joe (Joe Crack the Dawn) and Jadakiss (“Jada”). Fat Joe is a longtime Bronx-born rapper with decades in the game; Jadakiss is a veteran New York rapper (early 2000s era) known for gritty street credibility and major-label success.
Key claims
- Eminem’s early NYC performance: he was so intense and skinny that people held him by his shirt to keep him from flying offstage.
- Suge Knight inspired instant fear at awards shows and restaurants, with celebrities and crowds reacting by fleeing or removing jewelry.
- Big Pun’s “army” mentality: Fat Joe says Pun recruited loyalty and built Terror Squad around command and trust.
Notable examples
- Fat Boys, Run-DMC, and Rappin’ Duke at a Mount Vernon field show (Fat Joe’s childhood).
- Suge Knight appearing at Vibe Awards/BET events and shutting down crowds.
- Big Pun’s first meeting with Fat Joe, including Pun sharing his life story and recruiting Terror Squad.
- Pun’s funeral: Joe claims Eminem sent flowers and a “rich uncle” confrontation occurred.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOEminem's First NYC Show
1:01 to 1:25
Joe and Jada reminisce about witnessing Eminem's early performance.
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Eminem's First NYC Show
2:48 to 3:45
Joe and Jada reminisce about witnessing Eminem's early performance.
“I've been in the game professionally, I would say 33 years.”
Chicago Show Story
3:45 to 4:24
Sharing a tense experience from a Chicago show in the past.
“When I walked in, Jadakiss was already there.”
Influence of Suge Knight
4:24 to 6:00
Discussing Suge Knight's impact and reputation in hip hop.
“And I remember I seen Jada and the guys from Chicago salute who was threatening everybody.”
Suge Knight's Presence at Events
6:00 to 7:52
Recounting Suge's intimidating presence at hip-hop events.
“That was, that was, but I went to an award show.”
Cool and Dre's Encounter with Suge
7:52 to 8:13
Cool and Dre describe their experience with Suge Knight in LA.
Young Artists and Suge Knight
8:13 to 11:34
Reflections on Suge Knight's attention towards young artists.
“Like, it was like, they were so shook at this dude.”
Hip Hop Origins and Personal Stories
11:34 to 13:31
Joe discusses his hip-hop roots and early influences.
“But then after I got on, after I'm in the game popping, everywhere I would come, he would, it's like, as soon as I get my bags from baggage claim, they was calling him.”
First Live Performance Experiences
13:31 to 14:01
Jada shares his first memorable live performance experience.
“It's like, that's how I grew up in hip hop.”
Memorable First Performances
14:01 to 17:24
Fat Joe shares his unforgettable first concert experiences that shaped his love for hip-hop.
“The second time he did it, he did it one time.”
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Eminem's First NYC Show
17:25 to 19:24
Fat Joe recounts the moment he witnessed Eminem's debut in New York City, highlighting Eminem's impact.
“And so he opened up for me and Pond at the Lyricist Lounge, the Outsiders group out of New Jersey.”
Big Pun's Introduction to Fat Joe
19:25 to 23:36
Fat Joe tells the story of his first encounter with Big Pun and the beginnings of their partnership.
“Okay, so Finesse had fans that would just go, they didn't even want to hear the beat.”
Big Pun's Legacy and Vulnerability
24:20 to 28:00
Fat Joe reflects on Big Pun's life story, his struggles, and the loyalty within their crew.
“He was like, his whole intention was like, yo, let's see if Fat Joe listens to us.”
Big Pun's Journey and Family Legacy
28:00 to 29:10
Explore Big Pun's struggles with his family and his rise to fame.
“He's like, he always wanted that army with him, right?”
Funeral Memories and Family Dynamics
29:10 to 31:30
Listen to a poignant story about Big Pun's funeral and family reactions.
“He had a guy, a limousine with a driver just sitting in front of the crib.”
Reflections on Iconic Funerals
31:30 to 34:00
Hear reflections on the funerals of Biggie and the respect from the hip-hop community.
“and i said yo i know who you is he was like oh you know who i am i said yeah i said you're the You're the uncle, the rich uncle.”
The Influence of Hip-Hop
34:00 to 36:40
Discover the personal stories that led to a deep love for hip-hop.
“and then Bob ended up releasing it with Missing You and all that.”
Growing Up in the Bronx
36:40 to 39:40
Learn about the cultural influences and experiences growing up in the Bronx.
“or the phone with the the spin back that made me think of an ill story right and so part of being a great storyteller is you tell your wins and you tell your losses.”
March of Dimes Incident
39:40 to 42:01
A humorous yet intense recounting of an event during the March of Dimes.
“But at the end, just before you go to the ferry to Staten Island, whatever that is, battery, whatever that shit is down there.”
Childhood Adventures and Hustling Stories
42:01 to 48:20
Explore wild childhood memories and drug dealing experiences.
“They throw the whole fucking truck on you.”
Street Lessons and Encounters
50:49 to 56:03
Hear about life lessons learned through street encounters and conflicts.
“Of course, when I got older, it was like really not fair for people.”
Childhood Confrontations and Lessons in Courage
56:03 to 58:02
Hear a story of a childhood conflict that taught the value of standing up for oneself.
“So I've been calling him and he don't pick up the phone, right?”
Defending Reputation and Personal Values
58:02 to 1:00:51
Explore the importance of respect and standing up against disrespectful behavior in the community.
“dish served however the fuck you wanna serve it.”
Ranking the Best Rap Groups and Collaborations
1:00:51 to 1:05:13
Join the discussion on the best rap groups and posse cuts of all time, highlighting influential tracks.
“We ain't do the best groups of all time.”
Battles, Beef, and Loyalty in Hip-Hop
1:05:13 to 1:10:01
Delve into the complexities of loyalty, beef, and conflict resolution in the hip-hop industry.
“Ladies and gentlemen, I'm in three of his five.”
Squashing Beef: Insights from 50 Cent
1:10:01 to 1:12:08
Learn about the complexities of resolving rap beef as Joe discusses his recent conversation with 50 Cent.
“And then, you know, 50 Cent just told me this shit too many.”
The Current State of the Rap Game
1:12:09 to 1:12:41
Explore the dynamics of the rap industry and how publicity affects artist behavior.
“he's just, the word that I step on is a million dollars.”
Engaging with the Audience
1:12:42 to 1:13:25
Joe and Jada emphasize the importance of audience engagement and their approach to it.
“It's Crack and Kiss and the motherfucking train is coming.”
Engaging with the Audience
1:14:53 to 1:15:28
Joe and Jada emphasize the importance of audience engagement and their approach to it.
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Transcript
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1:53If you've been injured, visit ForThePeople.com slash Harvey Radio. Morgan & Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. You know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen Eminem. They was holding him by the back of his T-shirt so he don't fly off the stage. He was just spitting so crazy. And me and Pond, we all looking at each other like, oh my God, who's this white boy? That boy, crazy.
2:32Yeah, yeah, what up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack the Dawn. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is. The Joe and Jada Show, man. What's up, y 'all? Yo, Jada, you got that fly shit on. That's what you got, bro. You got to stop fucking playing. You brought that baby pastel out. Know what I'm saying? at Valenciaga. That mint. That mint. Chocolate chip. Mint. Pepper. Let me tell you something, boy. He threw that shit on, you know? Hip-hop at its finest. I've been in the game professionally, I would say 33 years. How many years you been in the game? 20-something. 20-something. And people don't understand.
3:19I got an ill story with you. You didn't even know. about. No. I had an ill story. I might have saved you and you ain't know it. Right? It was one time, I'll never forget, we had a show in Chicago and then Chicago has said anybody come from out of town we robbing them. You don't remember that shit? At one time, they said, I could tell you who it was, but you was there. When I walked in, Jadakiss was already there. I walked in with extra jewelry. I went out there, you know, I got Oh, I do remember. We had a show. We had a show one time in the shot. Remember that? And that shit was, I don't know if you knew that what was going on behind the scenes.
4:05It really was nothing to do with us. It just, it was so - We landed on Plymouth Rock. Yes. Yes. We landed on Plymouth Rock. They had the pimp with the machine gun under the fucking, And he was like, um, on a wheelchair. It shit got real crazy out there. And I remember I seen Jada and the guys from Chicago salute who was threatening everybody. It was the first guys I saw when I walked in, I had this stupid, I wore extra jewelry. Cause they was like, yo, anybody come in here? We robbing them streets was like, yo, I went over there with the dumb jury that day. but you know I got the crazy you know I got the crazy crew in Chicago too they seen the seven headed swordsmans that never come out the house they was like this guy came in but you know thinking of terrifying events you know really makes me think of one guy there's a historical figure in hip hop and now that the man blind he in jail lost all his money people like use his names and raps and all that But when Suge Knight had$300 million, they were terrified of this man.
5:22Suge was shaking shit up. He was shaking shit. Shaking or super shaking? He was shaking shit. The man goes, no, I don't know, right? Because the theory is, I forget what movie it was. I think it was Braun Steele where he said, I'd rather be feared than love. I used it in I Shot Ya, right? I'd rather be feared than love. Do you truly rather be feared than love in real life? Because this man was so feared that I don't know if I would feel good about myself. You know, I went to an award show one time and I ain't going to talk about the Vibe Awards. That was, that was, but I went to an award show.
6:04That was the craziest shit. I was there. I got, that's one of the first awards I ever got. The Vibe Awards, you was there? Yeah. When Suge Knight walked in by himself, he scared the whole place with a cigar. You want to talk about that? Alicia Keys running back. She, you know, she pulled me to the side because I told this story before. She was like, yo, bro. I was like, you know, I worship you, Alicia, but you did run past me with the red dress. Like, you know, Russell Simmons. All he did was walk in. Everybody ran out the whole shit. There was no violence yet. everybody was running. Swiss was like, yo, she don't appreciate how you put in the store.
6:44I said, no, she's my sister and I worship her, but she ran right past me with the red gown on. Russell Simmons was tumbling over like, it was like the great white shark was in the building. They just let him out of jail. He walk in, he didn't have a gun. His shit was a cigar. He was like this. The whole fucking awards. And I wasn't even talking about that because I don't want to go into that one, right? But matter of fact I felt right because I'm only there with my wife I think I'm there with Armageddon Tony I wasn't there with the goons but it felt like Saving Private Ryan or something like when you see the guy in the middle of a war zone and somebody standing there and everybody's running like I'm standing there I see Nori stood there and it's just everybody was running for no reason this before the violence this is like the minute they saw him I'm at a I'm talking about a whole nother time I'm at a a BET award a summer then we go to the after they got a restaurant that's open got a thousand people in there the whole industry I'm not just talking about rappers was in there talking it was loud it was this next thing I know the whole restaurant is quiet and I turn around the whole restaurant emptied out it was us eating and Suge Knight sat down in the table right next to us, him just walking in the restaurant, the whole restaurant ran out the restaurant.
8:16Like, it was like, they were so shook at this dude. Everybody out there that, you know, I just, he was like, what up, big, for some reason he would call me all the time, big homie, what up, big homie? I'm like, yo, what's up? Yo, this, sat down, we ate our food. We left and people were just terrified out of him on site. I'll tell you the story that Kool and Dre told me. So Kool and Dre, Super Produces, my brothers, Terror Squad, they went to LA for a BMI award. And when they went to LA for the BMI award, there was a line going in. So they stood on line thinking that's the line to go in. So all of our favorite rappers and producers and all that was on that line.
9:06As they were going in closer and closer, they realized at the front of the line was Suge Knight. And everybody was taking off their earrings politely, their chains, their watches. Just. No way. Okay. No way. You know, Kool and Dre, they telling you. And I'm talking about, yo, listen, Kiss. Famous friends of ours you would never believe was on that line. famous friends was voluntarily on that line running the jewels and so the line wasn't to the front door was a line to suge knight give me your jewelry so cool and jay looking they like you know they'll tell you they're not gangsters they were like okay we figured we getting robbed they got the ts chains on their rolex they go up to the front suge knight is like each of them producers guys with joey and then he's like yeah you know cool and jay they was Like, yo, you tell a big homie, man, it's all love, this and that.
10:06Just walk in, this, this, this. So they almost felt like they almost wanted to get robbed with everybody else because everybody else was looking at them like the fix was in. Like they was down with the shit. Yo, you had any run-ins with Suge Knight that he tried to like say, yo, can I sign you with some shit? Because Suge called Sheik Mom's crib when we was in like, when we was young, right before, right when the bad boy deal was on the table. Oh, before you signed the bad boy, he heard that you were signing. Somebody, somehow he heard, and we was in Cheek's crib watching video music box, and Suge called his crib.
10:50Lucha must have been like, hold on, come in. Yo, it's fucking Suge on the phone. So we're like, what? then he like I remember they said yo we want to sign, they never even heard us they just must have, cause Puff was about to sign us so he like yo y 'all can get on the red eye tonight with how many people however many people you want to come over here with, y 'all can fly out tonight da da da we thought about it, he was like we can't do that wouldn't have been, when it was all said and done it wouldn't have been a good look it wouldn't have Might have worked for the men, but it probably wouldn't have worked overall for the, you know what I mean?
11:33You got to represent over there. You're absolutely right. But then after I got on, after I'm in the game popping, everywhere I would come, he would, it's like, as soon as I get my bags from baggage claim, they was calling him. And everywhere I had to be, he was popping up. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't on no shit. He was just everywhere I was at. But he wasn't on no type of time. Definitely wasn't. I think he already had a relationship with D and him, so he knew how it was going to go down. He did have a relationship with D. Yeah, yeah, he had a relationship with him. Yeah, he did. And he was cool with Irv, too.
12:17He was cool with a couple of people. Pistol Pete was hanging out in L.A. with him everywhere. Yo, these guys, this is crazy. These guys hang out together, right? This shit is nuts. But I think about when we talk about hip hop, right? And, you know, I come from the birthplace. So when I try to explain to people when we go into this. Yo, Jada, it's not my fault. I'm born there, right? So when you Muslim, you look at the Mecca where they walking around the shit. It's not my fault. I'm from that place. Melly Mel lived in my neighborhood. Grandmaster Flash live in my neighborhood. Shy Rock, first female MC in my neighborhood.
13:02Little Rodney C. Ruby D, the first Latino MC ever live in my neighborhood. Lubbock Starsky lived in my neighborhood. All these guys lived in my neighborhood. Mr. Ness. So I'm from the birthplace. So when I talk in my shit, it's kind of hard to argue with me because I'm actually there. Like as a little kid, when they see me, they go little Joey, that's Angel's brother, little Joey, smack me on the head. Yo, I'll keep it moving. It's like, that's how I grew up in hip hop. But I think about, I remember the first time I ever saw KRS-One was in Cortland Projects. I'll shout out Sadat X. And he had, he was this skinny.
13:44He had this Bob Marley shirt on, t-shirt with the fucking roster hat. He did the South Bronx. I was mesmerized. This is before we even heard it. By the second time he did it, the whole fucking jam was going South Bronx. We knew the song. The second time he did it, he did it one time. By the second, it was pandemonium. Right? I'm thinking of, who did you see perform for like the very first time that you've seen him ever perform? Hmm, one time when I was little, my moms came and snatched me off the block. That's how I always like to say my moms is responsible for my hip hop career. One time, late 80s, I'm chilling on the block.
14:34We playing high water, low water when you got to jump over the rope and they keep raising. So it's the whole block, a summer day. You know, a day, a summer day in New York is better than anywhere. So the whole block is playing. It's lit. It's beautiful. My mom's come. Get in the car. Me. Now, when they get in the car? We having the best time. Boy, get in. Now I'm tight. And she's like, yo, a couple of your mans could come and ask their moms. Get in. She bring me to Mount Vernon Memorial Field. Open the car door. Say, yo, when you get at this time, meet me back here at the car. I get in the field.
15:20It's the fucking Fat Boys. Shit was crazy, dog. I'm like, how the hell did she know? Then it was Fat Boys. It was Rappin' Duke. Then Run DMC. Rappin' Duke to Hotta Hop? That shit was crazy, dog. Run DMC, Fat Boys. Run DMC? Rappin' Duke. In the park? That shit was, I'm like, how the fuck? It was no grammar, nothing. It was barely newspapers. I'm like, who gave my moms the call that this shit was, and that shit probably changed my life right there. Yeah, you know, me and my brother, you know, my Uncle Angel, you know, he's a pastor now and all that, but he had promised us he was going to take us to that concert in Madison Square Garden that run DMC, the one they say everybody put up the Adidas in the air.
16:09Fresh fest. We waited for him in front of the building. Like, yo, let me tell you something. when you see these movies of kids waiting for their father to come and their father never come when I tell you me and my brother was looking at every fucking headlight coming up the block hoping my uncle came he never came nah he never came and you know what my uncle Angel he wasn't even like hip hop like that so I believed him we sat in front of the projects waiting for hours and then all you can hear is the legendary stories about how motherfucking lift up all the Adidas and all that. But maybe we was too young.
16:49That shit also got, you know, people always like to say, yo, hip hop started peaceful. But every block party I went to, somebody pulled out a shotgun and robbed the whole park. Or started a stampede. Or started a stampede, right? So even at Fresh Fest, no matter everything that happened, they said Brooklyn's in the house. Like, you know, like they were like, you know, it was going down in that motherfucker. They was throwing dudes over the whole shit. So when it comes to first, you know, I was there the first time in New York City we ever seen Eminem. And so he opened up for me and Pond at the Lyricist Lounge, the Outsiders group out of New Jersey.
17:32They brought him out. And this man was you knew he was special. And all of the dudes got dreadlocks and all that. and he was so skinny they was holding him by the back of his t-shirt so he don't fly off the stage. He was just spitting so crazy and me and Pond we all looking at each other like oh my god who's this white boy? This boy crazy. You know I was at this thing called Zodiac 2 I used to go to over there it's considered high bridge now and so we used to go to that club all the time and I was there the first time I saw Biz Marquis bring out Big Daddy King Big Daddy Kane had the roster hat can go to the side right and this is when hip hop was hip hop to where you could have been tough if you wanted to be tough but it was really about loving the hip hop moment so you know guys had the Benetton bags and all that shit and when that man said Big Daddy Kane went up there he was like super I look fragile, I look gorgeous I literally seen dudes trying to run up the wall.
18:42Like, defy gravity. This is when you used to be like, oh! And you wilding and shit like that. Man. You know, I was there when Big Daddy Kane brought out Jay-Z for the first time. It was in Manhattan. Big Daddy Kane brought him out. And Jay-Z starts spitting. And you knew he was special because at the time, Jay-Z wore the... Big Daddy Kane wore the crown. For him to bring a young boy out there in Manhattan to get that boy to spit. You know, there was things like that that was legendary to me. Of course I seen Finesse bring out Big L for the first time. You know, Finesse had like your fans. Okay, so Finesse had fans that would just go, they didn't even want to hear the beat.
19:35They didn't hear they just wanted to go, oh I want to hear the lyrics oh and they were and the fans almost lined themselves up they'd be in the crowd lining themselves up just to cheer they'd be like Lord Finesse is the man that you got to hear they just keep going that was his fan and so when Big L came out there and started spitting with Finesse I was out there the first show it was uptown It was like, that's considered Dominican land now. Or Marble Hill and all that. That was the first time Finesse brought him out.
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24:11Of course, we were Big Pond. You know, Big Pond was just this big, fat Puerto Rican dude. He would wear them hats like, like, like. Did you know Pond when he was small? No. You didn't? I met Pun Big so I'm coming out the bodega I'm finishing my second album like I'm handing in my second album and coming out the bodega and they freestyling and he's like yo yo let me go to it now I know I was set up at that time I thought it was like god a miracle or some shit now I know Big Pun set me up like he came to my block to Ron Hyman. He was like, his whole intention was like, yo, let's see if Fat Joe listens to us.
24:58So I come in from the store. They got a couple of dudes freestyling. They go, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, let me go. He's already semi big. Right? So then he do that. Oh, it's just the early bays.
25:14Snatch the moon out the sky and blow the sun away. Me and my niggas playing hardcore, hardcore lyrics till I finish. I was like, no! Stop! I did the Jada. Whoa! Stop! No! I had the Lexus 400, the big boy. I opened that door like concierge. The man came up in there and sat down. The whole shit went down.
25:47And his crew, they look so sad because it was a group. they look so sad like because he was the only one i put in the car but i pointed at them and i said yo pun don't worry we're gonna put them on you gotta worry about you right now i'm gonna bust you out you're gonna blow up and then you put your mans on you know what i'm saying he was like all right word word word and then we just cruise he told me his whole life story that's all you know what's crazy is puns on me is life story right so I come from selling drugs dealing with the wildest animals you ever dealt with it did complete treason
26:29treason fucking betrayal robbers just people you just can't trust so I couldn't believe that he was telling me his real life story the first second I ever met him. He got in the car. One deal he made with me, he said, yo, man. He said, so Tom was like this real live, real nigga, but that never really had a crew. A pistoleros. He didn't have a crew. I had an army since I was in kindergarten, bro. I'm telling you. I got a story. He rest in peace. Fuente, Julio Fuente, my barber for many years. He said, I was five years old. I walked to his barbershop with 20 kids. and he said he was like yo I can't cut your hair with these 20 kids and he said that I told them all to go outside and wait for me and they all went outside and that's when my barber Julio Fuentes told me I knew you were the leader I knew you were gonna run this shit you was five years old telling 20 guys wait outside right so pun the point I'm making is pun says is those terror squad is that going to be my crew?
27:41I said, yes. I knew. Listen, I'm such a fan. Kiss, Eminem, Nas, G-Rap. I know I'm studying hip hop so much. I knew I found the illest thing in the world. I was like, yes. He said, so they're going to do what I say. I said, they're going to love you. They're going to do whatever you say. Oh, I'm in. I'm in. He's like, he always wanted that army with him, right? And sure enough to this day, they're loyal to him. So, but we drive out to you an ill story. So, Pun tells me a story how he was homeless, nobody. He wanted to show his family, his bloodline, his DNA, that he wasn't going to be a piece of shit.
28:21They always told him he was going to be a piece of shit. He's telling me this the first minute I met him. I never seen vulnerability like that. But then he tells me this one story. He says, man, I want to impress my uncle. So, I'm saying your uncle? He was like, yeah, man. He said, I got an uncle. He's really rich. He said, and one day I went to him and told him I was hungry. And he went in my hand and he gave me a bunch of rocks. Rocks. Like rocks. And told him to eat that. So Punny's like, yo, my uncle's rich. I told him I was hungry. He put rocks in my hand. He told me to eat that. So long story short, successful first latino double platinum filthy rich now let me explain big pun to you big pun had 10 benzes and beamers in front of it he wouldn't leave out the hood i was begging him i was already in jersey i'm already hearing burns chirping little kids playing hockey in front of the shit i'm gone like he's still in the south bronx he's still not the south bronx sound view Everybody know 10 Benzes.
29:31He had a limousine on 24 hour hole. 365 days. He had a guy, a limousine with a driver just sitting in front of the crib. 24 hours a day. Right. Little dogs. If he had a first kids at first, they even got the first for the dogs. and the dogs was from like Europe or some, he was the true pedestrian of blowing a bag. Big pun. He like, he couldn't hold on to money. He was just going crazy. You know, he probably was the first rapper with three Rolex watches on. Like this guy was out of control with it, right? So pun, unfortunately he passes away. We do the funeral, right? So I rent this big ass funeral in the Bronx.
30:19we get people to put the this whole family's there so you know how they do the you see the body before everybody long story short this family's there we all crying everybody's crying so the door opens and the man walks in i see the whole family jump up like like they saw a savior some shit right it's pun's body's right here right i'm just saying i'm looking at oh oh they was acting like that you already know what that is i come from where my uncle was rich my uncle failure from all the number spots they seen the guy with the bag they all jumped oh right so he walks in and he says hi to the family you know what he says to me he says yo what is this guy doing here meanwhile i paid for the whole fucking funeral my nigga like everybody knows it's joe and pun that's like looking at styles of jada like what are they doing here so i'm sitting there like this he says what is this guy doing here to his family and his family's like no no no no no for multiple reasons joe paid and joe will fuck you up like you you're playing a terrible game right now wrong one huh yeah you might get you might go early downstairs you don't want that shit right so the man the man turned around and do that to me and i said yo i know who you is he was like oh you know who i am i said yeah i said you're the You're the uncle, the rich uncle.
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31:43First five minutes I met, pun. He told me how much of a piece of shit you was and how he told you he was hungry and you gave him rocks. I said, let me tell you something, man. Welcome, I paid for all this. And number two is your family's about to tell you, we will beat the living shit out of you right here now. And they'll drag you out the back of this shit. He shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral. Right? As he should have. No, no, he shut the fuck up the rest of the funeral. And, you know, it is what it is. I'm, you know, but anyway, that funeral, I'm sure you guys came through. Puff came through, Lil' Kim, Mac 10 flew in, TLC.
32:28You know, it was so crazy because, you know how you get the flowers in the funeral? I'm reading the flowers. So the flowers is like sent by Eminem, Eminem might have sent seven flowers for the Big Pong funeral. Whitney Houston sent like seven flowers. Like these people we never met. This is like, you got to go to the Grammy to meet all these people and all the stars from all over were sending flowers and I'm reading it and I couldn't believe it. Like TLC, T-Bars walked up in there. Everybody, they had so much respect for him. I remember, you know, the Biggie funeral you know what I'm saying? I went to Brooklyn in front of his old crib and I just was out there in the streets where you see the video of the streets of everybody wilding because I pulled up in front of the funeral and I just felt like I didn't want to see Big like that but I was across the street from the Frankie Campbell.
33:28You went to the Big funeral? Yeah, I went. You had to be sad, huh? Hell yeah. I mean, that shit was traumatizing for me, for us. You know, that was our first time in LA when that shit happened with him. So that wasn't, and we made, we always loved Big Papa. They played that, they actually played. In the funeral? They played it for the mafia and his family. We only made it for that. We never made it to be released. We only made it to play for them. You know what I mean? and then Bob ended up releasing it with Missing You and all that. So yeah, that shit was it. Hip hop, what made you get in the game?
34:14What let you know this is the reason you picking up a mic or you writing, you know, on your paper? For me, when I was little, I was always break dancing, doing shit. I was the known on the block as the little, I just was intrigued by it. in my uncle's room, like I said, listening to the Furious Five. And they still have park jams in Y.O. I was sneaking in all of them joints. One time I went all the way across town to Black Heritage Day when I was little. My mom was going to whip my ass, but she saw that I love hip hop so much. I ain't get in trouble, but I should have got how far I went and how young I was, I could have been dead right now.
35:04Hip-hop saved my life, for real, you could say. She was going to kill me. I was just sitting on the fucking hill looking at the niggas performing. And what I say is that that's similar to me. I remember the first time I heard Eric being rocked with the don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, And we went to what's called now where A. Boogie and them is from. Right. But at that time, it was on University Avenue. We had to take like two, three trains from the five and two to the four. And then you get off at Burnside and you got to walk up that big ass hill. Burnside. There's one thing you drive that hill.
35:49You walk that motherfucker. Oh, my God. God, like it felt like the warriors when you, when you like, and so we on the other side, it's almost like being in California, you know, from where I'm from at that time, we ain't no no call. We ain't no, we taking trains for hours. And that's where we saw the WAP for the first time. And they was playing that shit, boom, ba-do-do-do. And back in the days, you know, and we studying them and we trying to do the dance. We took that bitch back home. That next day we went to the Park Jam. they doing that Eric B and Rakim and we start doing the WAP everybody starts studying the WAP I mean you know back in that day it was more word of mouth yeah so anyway is it word of mouth or the phone with the the spin back that made me think of an ill story right and so part of being a great storyteller is you tell your wins and you tell your losses.
36:53You know what I'm saying? You got to be able to, you know, you got to have the people tune in where they feel like they there. Right. So I come from a project called God'sville. Right. So also it was like the Mecca, the five percenters. So everyone, I was the God Crack Kim. Great God Allah. Yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, I'm telling you what it is, right? Crack Kim is crazy. You got it. Yo, listen. You got to think. You got to think. What is this? Listen. Yo, you got to think. There's no other way to do it. You got to think. Everybody go check out this movie. Back in the day, it's called Fresh. You got to think Chucky.
37:42Remember Fresh? You bust a funky dope movie. but think Chucky from Fresh. It's Fat Joe. You live in Dodge Ferry right now. We found him. Yeah, because I ain't. My man, my man that's in Fresh, he used to work out with us. He moved to Cali now, but when we got with him, we looked for Chucky. I got to meet Chucky. We didn't meet him. We just found him. He's in Dodge Ferry. Also, you ain't Chucky. If you watch this show, come on. Yo, I got to meet Chucky. So Fat Joe is Chucky for French. There's no way around. In real life. that's what he was. The fucking, yo, punishes. We bust a stupid, that was just always the guy starting to trouble, always getting in trouble, always trying to do too much, always trying to, you know, wild out just every fucking time.
38:30Right. And so I grew up, my projects, 90 % black, 10 % Puerto Rican. It is what it is. So the gods be in there and I'm Chucky for fresh. Like, yo, get the fuck up out of here. They building, trying to do the cipher. I'm saying ham, salem, bacon, or I'm fucking with everybody, right? So you got the guards from Section 5, Co-op City, Patterson Projects. All the guards know they come to my, my projects was the Mecca, Garzville. And he was the little, I was the annoying fat Puerto Rican nigga that would fuck with everybody. So he said, yo, you ain't guard body, but you know, you bear witness, guard.
39:09The guard, yeah, I'm the guard crack camp. great God Allah. Y 'all know what's... Right? So, if you want the picture, this is what it is, right? So now they had some shit in Manhattan. Right? They had some shit in Manhattan. I'm going to tell y 'all a true story. Don't get mad at me, Bronx. They had this shit called March of Dime. I remember the March of Dime. Lori shouldn't even listen to this story because this is like, this was like, you know, March of Dime was raising money in this. Yeah, the thing with the change in it. But at the end, just before you go to the ferry to Staten Island, whatever that is, battery, whatever that shit is down there.
39:50So one day we said, because Brooklyn used to be there deep. So one day we told the whole entire Bronx, the whole entire Bronx that we going down there. And I ain't going to lie to you. say they was 20, 30, 40 ,000 black dudes. They had one fat Spanish nigga. You might as well say I was surfing on the tree. Yeah, yeah, what's up, nigga? The big ass nigga to sell, bro. I'm like, Chucky from Fresh. I'm like on 10 ,000, right? So we get out. Every train, it was like the Warriors, was just thousands, hundreds of guys from the Bronx, from Co-op City, the Valley, all the way down to Patterson. I mean, everybody got the memo.
40:46We going down there, right? So we get out the train and Battery Park. South Bronx, South, South Bronx, South Bronx. I mean, thousands of us, right? South Bronx, right? Next thing you know, as we getting closer to the park, I start hearing like South Bronx, South, South Bronx, South, South Bronx. And I'm still like, yeah, South Bronx, South. And man, we get to this park. And what I don't think we relied on is people having cousins in Brooklyn, right? So they must have told Brooklyn the Bronx was coming out there. geographically Brooklyn is like seven times bigger than the Bronx. If we had 20 ,000, they had a hundred thousand Brooklyn in the house, Brooklyn.
41:41And then I ain't going to lie. The base in the Bronx voice really told man, we got it popping instantly. It was just the Bronx against Brooklyn. We fighting all over. I see all these guys who I thought was the toughest guys getting hit. They will hit you with the fucking Frank for the man. The Frank for the truck. They pounding you out. They threw the whole guy at you. They throw the whole fucking truck on you. Like, this shit was bad out there. Like, yo, we was taking a beat. I just seen niggas run, boom, everybody's getting pissed. We fight. Of course we got, you know, Brown's got the realest.
42:22You know, we out there fighting thousand people. I'll tell you one thing. I'm sure there was some other Puerto Ricans, but man, it was scarce. I mean, they did, Brooklyn definitely saw the fat Puerto Rican dude going all out, fighting everybody. But it was just, we had to get the fuck up out of there. Bad though. I mean, you see every, God, this one, that one, this, everybody was shooting past motherfuckers. It was just, they was just way too deep. And we went over there super deep, But I guess that's like the great adventures of like being a kid without a car, rolling with your project somewhere, catching the air.
43:04Where do you go to with your projects that it got a little bit too... I never lived in the projects, but my neighborhood was just as fucking fucked up as the projects. But like Halloween nights, they used to have shits where every one whole side of town and just mad projects and mad blocks just get together and go somewhere and do some crazy shit. You know, I did that. I used that one time, right? I was a young kid, hustling, selling drugs. I know that that's not popular to say. No, I'm not co-signing, but... Better than using. I remember, that's a fact. I remember, right? It was one Halloween and they had these dudes.
43:51I had this little crack spot. It was clicking and these dudes were fucking grown men. Right? They, you know, I'm only 14, 13, 14 and I got a spot and it's clicking. So these guys were grown men and they came through and they just set up shop in the park and they was like, yo, shorty, man, you dead. Like, I'm telling you the truth. Yo, you dead on this shit. Like, Like, come on, man. And I'm only like 13, 14. But my projects used to get together for Halloween. It was hundreds of us. And we go to everybody else's projects with socks, with this, that. So it happened to be Halloween, right? And they was super deep.
44:38And I told everybody, yo, I'm going to give you the signal. Y 'all come around the corner. dude ah yo I'm 13 I walk up to these dudes they grown men I'm like yo y 'all can't pump out here they like what like yo didn't we tell you this I was like hey yo they just came around the corner the whole project look like Halloween they digger with socks with this this digger was like yo they with you I said yes this is my crew like what y 'all niggas one out here. Man, them boys left that spot so fast, man. I think the project ain't no, I used them to run these guys out of here. These guys were grown men, 30 years old shit.
45:26When I say, yo, hundreds of guys came with the face painted, the socks, they were like, no, no, no, no, no, we out. Don't worry about it. We won't come back over here no more. This, this, that. I used Halloween a couple of times. Nah, you know, this shit is all Theater. Theater. Theater. One time I blocked, we was hustling because we used to hustle together. So I lived in the middle of the block. I came out like in the evening one time, I was like, no, I'm catching like the sundown shift. So I come out, I probably had a hundred, couple hundred pieces on me. Come out, dab everybody up, I go put my pack in the building.
46:14Like two, look, come out. What's up, crack? Put my man. And this is the crazy. He's Mary's cousin. He's the one who actually passed the demo. It's J-Bop, my man Jamarco. He actually passed the demo to Mary that went to Puff that got assigned. So fast forward. I come out the crib, shower, ready to knock my work off, put it in the middle building, up in the elevator thing. come out, two seconds, somebody, yo, somebody come, they want something. I go back, it's gone. Now I'm like, my man, I said, Bob, you, it's no way, it was, when I tell you it was this fat, I came out, put the pack in the building, went outside them, yo, let me get something, went back, nothing, me.
47:07Yeah, you got my pack? And we almost had it. We got down to like, no's didn't know. He like, I don't got your shit. I'm like, you got it. There's no way. I'm not taking no four hits. So we all got heated. They calmed it down. But I still, I can't sleep because I'm like, I went to the house and got some more. But I'm like, my whole night was fucked up. Oh, yeah. So we chilling a few hours later. always come a smoker come out did you have them green bags they having a party in Deb's house I said oh who's pumping the green bags so now we got to the bottom of it my man Nut he recipe he alive Peanut?
47:57I hope he's alive we half killed him we half killed him he used the bathroom on himself we obliterated him when we call it. Let me tell you something.
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50:48I was way too young in the streets doing the shit I was doing. Of course, when I got older, it was like really not fair for people. but I was way too young so I get it while they was trying me because it was like yo this guy's 13 14 out here really trying to so this one I remember nah we did some foul shit it was like this crackhead I had him sell for me but he was 7 feet tall still had size this this that so he dead me oh he deaded you? yo bro I'm not lying to you he deaded me He was like, yo, I ain't got your money, this, this, that. So now I'm like, we're like three or four of my mans with me, right?
51:33We still all little dudes though. But so I'm like, let me tell you, snitching never sat right with me. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever sat right with me. And letting somebody get one up on me, never, ever. to this day I don't think there's somebody who got one up on me right physically meaning right so he's down there he pumping we over here and I'm telling him Yoda he beat me for like a hundred dollars and he ain't coming next to us or nothing like this so they was like word let's pound him out god I'm like yo I'm like yo let's pound him out right so the dude was addicted to gambling so we went and took like three rocks we didn't even have dice we down the block we act like we gambling we throwing the rocks against the shit yo doing whatever this need come over we put the beats on this guy so we body slammed this dude we pounded him out so legend legend and so you know where I put in this shit is real was like one time I went I went to see my aunt stuck up my cuz yo come on man come on come on When I put on the shit is real primo edition one time I went to see my aunt stuck up my cuz right so now it wasn't me I don't want to say nobody business but one of my my uncle he got beat right so he gave somebody some work they didn't pay him back this this that so he calls me he says you know it's my cousin this is my uncle and my cousin was a grown ass man.
53:16I'm 14, 15, right? So my uncle calls me and says, yo, that work you gave me, our cousin such and such, he beat you. He talking about he ain't paying. This nigga was way too big for us, like a grown man. My own cousin, right? You know, you 14, you trying to give dudes work, you think you cool. These guys are 28, 30 years old. They don't give a fuck about what you're saying. You was young enough to knock off your own work. Let me tell you what happened. So I walk in. This is a true story. I walk into my aunt's house and that dude is gambling in the hallway. He's my cousin. We put the beats on him.
53:58So legend. So legend. In front of the whole hood. You need the merch that say so legend. Yo, so legend. I need so legend. He was shooting dice. We pounded him out to this day. I don't even feel right when I see him at funerals and all that. because he talks to me, but he knows what we did to him. It's a legend. No, I'm telling you the truth. I see him. He's my cousin. You know, he spoke at my father's funeral recently. Like, oh, Ernesto was, you know, this. But he had the... I never let him. I never let him. There's this guy. Let me tell you something, right? There's this guy. I wrote about it in my book, The Book of Jose.
54:40This guy, and they know who I'm talking about. I've got to say it because I said it in the thing, but his name was Monkey Face Carlos. Monkey Face Carlos was a killer. You hear me? From the BX? Yes. He was an alleged killer because I don't know where he's at. He was there with Chickie for Southern Boulevard and all these guys is the most dangerous crew in the Bronx. Don't let nobody lie to you. These guys, they're underneath the jail. The judge told them, please don't guys yo I want to snitch on another body for who chicky please we not doing no more chicky stories like we don't want no more about it like they underneath the jail right the realest guys ever in the Bronx there's just no other way to explain it to you right he's one of them so he's going out with a girl from my building right so of course you know I'm young I got the so I tell him I say yo monkey yo I got some work He was like, yo, give me 500.
55:42What's his name? Monkey Face? Monkey Face Carlos. Had the green eyes. They know what I'm talking about. He looked like a monkey though? No, he was actually a fairly handsome guy, but that was just what they called him. That was his hand. And he was way advanced for me. I'm only 14. He's like, they putting in work legend out there, right? Well, he go with the girl in my building. So I've been calling him and he don't pick up the phone, right? so he walk out my building and I ain't gonna lie to you I'm still just a kid right so he walk out my building I'm like yo yo Carlos I've been calling you he was like yeah for what I was like you know that shit I gave you he was like oh you dead on that shit like that though man I swear to god man yo niggas is crazy do they know what they fucking with here man I'm like I'm looking at him I'm just a kid but I'm like, he was like, oh, you, you, you want, oh, you dead on that shit.
56:44And he keeps walking. And I'm watching him. It's turning like whatever they call that. Twilight is turning dark. And I watch him walk. While he's walking down the block, I'm talking to myself, my conscience. I said, man, you pussy. This nigga played you. You just suck a nigga. Like you let this guy beat you. This is, so I'm talking to myself. Right. So he gets like a block down almost by Diamond D building. And I see, yo, monkey. He turned around and was like, what? Say, no, one second, one second. So I'm jogging over there. No, monkey, yo, check this out. I got some work. Boom, I duffed this dude, right?
57:24He fall on the floor. Pound him out, legend. Legend. He's on the floor, pounded out. And let me tell you something. thank God he ain't kill me he ain't come back with the mob thank God he ain't do none of that but I was so impressed with my courage to stand up to this guy I could not believe he was just one so I never you know it never been a thing to me you know what I mean like to get played like that get beat and the snitching it doesn't exist. Revenge is a dish served however the fuck you wanna serve it. That's my slogan. You heard? Revenge is a what? A dish served however you wanna serve it.
58:14However you want, yeah, that's a good one. Revenge is a dish served however you wanna serve it. You serve it chilled, warm. Oh man. Leftovers, however you want to get your revenge, this is on you. Oh, yeah. I mean, I could never live with that, man. I couldn't live with, you know, anybody trying to play with me. I said one time I come out Jimmy's Cafe. The guy, you know, this guy, too. I'm telling you the story about I come out of Jimmy's Cafe and I don't know why, because I'm always there, but he come out of jail. I seen him with y 'all. right no i'm just saying he's not a member of your crew but i seen him he's a well-respected guy from the bronx he's not pussy but he look at me and he was like oh they let you in here and i'm like he just came home from jail right but all these oh my god so he comes home from jail right so i guess he's thinking like you know he's tough now or something and so he's like Oh, they let you in here?
59:18I said, what you mean? And he said, nah, you can still be in the hood. Like, you ain't supposed to be either. So I smack his cheek off in the bathroom. Dude. One second. I smacked his cheek. No, I'm telling you, I gave him that fire. Boom. Then he tried to act up outside. I finished it off outside. I really pounded him out. Legend. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. I ain't seen him for years till I seen the locks with him somewhere. I said, he still think he tough. Who is this guy? They'll sue you now if you say the name, right? I don't need to put the suits together. I'll tell you in your ear.
59:59Nah, you started like the 10th. Trust me. He wasn't with me. No, he wasn't with y 'all. I'm just saying he's considered a real guy. He's just had. He was considered a real guy. He took an L with that. I'm just telling you the truth. He called an L. His sister had to jump in. He was well-respected. you know what I'm talking about in the street she jumped in like Joe that's my brother please know this and it was that I just can't tolerate the disrespect like you know I've never let's just get off that subject
1:00:32they come up with the the duos I was thinking about the best groups of all time groups you're not with it today We did this already, didn't we? No, we did duos. We ain't do duos. Complex did duos. What have we done? Ladies? Ladies? Producers? Songs? We ain't do the best groups of all time. But there's probably a lot of crossover groups with duos, though. There's some groups that's duos. And then there's some groups that's groups. I don't think you count them by the... They running out of shit to make up, so they broke down two man groups. Then next they come with three man groups. Then they come with - How about them guys we did the show with?
1:01:22What's the what? The 520 boys? They brought out the LeBron, Jordan. Like there's some, there's some shits that everybody keep playing into that it's like, that shit never gonna get old. You know, you ain't fucking with the groups today. You don't feel like it. You got the pastel shit on. We did the duos. We don't need to do the trios. to next month. Let's do something else. Top three posse cuts of all time. We can do five, but you know, this guy don't want to do it. We can do five? Five top five posse cuts. Long as they know it's all of you. Why is it on me? All I'm doing is participate. This shit is him.
1:02:07Yeah, I gotta let it be known that he's with me. This is my business partner. Don't let him just... He gonna get me fucked up at a Rock the Bells concert. I'm gonna get pounded out. Things gonna pound me out at a... They gonna be seeing the next little fucking... What they do when they do them little cartoons, what they call that shit. Sketches. They gonna show Joe running from the Rock the Bells concert. Rock him ready to hit me with a stick or something. Top five posse cuts. You wanna start or I start? I'll go first. Oh, I knew you wanted to go first. You got to go first. I knew you wanted to go first on this one.
1:02:47Stop the violence, number one. Stop the violence? No, help self-destruction. Self-destruction. I'm going with that. I'll get that out the way first. Bing, bong, bing. I never knew why we never had a self-destruction, too. They need it, but the little kid got killed from Philly. He did it over. I mean. Self-destruction. The Scenario Remix. I could've took - Was that when we really heard - That's when we heard Buster? Is when you heard you say, oh no, you - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, cool. Woo! All right, what I got, Self-Destruction, Scenario Remix. I'm cooking with fucking grease right now. Nah, nah, right now you out of control.
1:03:33Oh, the symphony. That was going on my list. He ain't got, I'm leaving you with nothing. That's three, I'm leaving him with nothing. I ain't gonna lie to you, he took my, that's my number one. It ain't nothing, you started it. It's okay, that's my number one. He started it, don't say no numbers, I got two more left. I'm just telling you, I would have went, that was on the top of my list. Symphony scenario self-destruction. He fucked up my whole life. Now I'm going to give you... Don't give him no fucking shit. That was on my list too. I'm not even going to use me. I'm going to use you. I'll let you use me.
1:04:17Verbal intercourse. Right? I'm going to fall. Yeah. I'm smoking that way. No, no, no. You're doing... Now I'm coming back. ...the symphony. I didn't think you was going to do that. Just getting out of here. What's my fall right now? Self-destruction. Scenario, Symphony, Verbal Intercourse. And this, let me finish it off with a... I shot you! Bing, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop! It put me in the game, I shot you. I shot you, put me in the game. That's fine with me! I shot you, Self Destruction, Scenario Remix, The Symphony, and what was it? piece of shit. Inverbal win. No, no, no. I left shits out for you.
1:05:08Yeah, I left you shits. Now it's not loud. I'm going Benjamin's. Okay. Then I'm going live at the barbecue. Ooh! Then I'm going band from TV. Ooh! And then he's going brain freeze. It's more shits though. I'm just looking. I got... Hold up! Don't give us this. Stay honest. I know what it is. It's John Blaze right after that. It's what it was. I know what it is. Don't say nothing. It is what it is. I know what it is. What's the list? I'm in three of his five. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm in three of his five. I love him to death. You are one of the greatest rappers in fucking ciphers ever created.
1:05:55Finish your five. You fucking took my shit.
1:06:02Tell me. No, you got three. And you got John Blaze. I got Alzheimer's. John Blaze. John Blaze. Ben from TV. And the Benjamins. And Life of the Barbecue. Oh, so you got four. You need one more. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's where I'm stuck in the reservoir. I'm stuck in muddy waters. You just said it. You just said it. Hold up. Wait a minute. I'm not going to put me in five. with my fourth. Make me four out of five, man. Let me get you one. Reservoir Dogs. Niggas done started something. It's mad though. I guess what you want. Yeah, but you know what I'm thinking of. You don't want to keep Flavin' Your Air Remix.
1:06:40Flavin' Your Air Remix. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's the five. Those is good five. What's my five again? Because this guy took all the... Yo, put the thing on this post when you put it up. Yo, Flavin' Your Air Remix. He's gonna get more butt than ass shades. Fuck a fair one. Scheme ass way. Damn it. Do you know? Do you know? Fall from Hanson. A little birdie told me that verse that big is talking about Craig Mack on his own song. I heard about that. Nah, I heard about it. Shout out to Craig Mack, rest in peace. With that freestyle, you're bound to get dropped. You're bound to get dropped.
1:07:16Damn. I mean, the same thing happened with Cannabis and LL when he put him on that other joint. Yeah, that was it. That was a great song, but I don't think it makes the type. I don't think it makes the first five, like when he said the first five scenario, and then that was a good one, but that wasn't Ashacha. It wasn't, but that Cannabis LL battle, who you thought was winning that at the prime of that battle right there? I didn't like, that was the start of our demise of with this comparison shit, because it's a young aspiring rapper to have a career going to battle with the first person that ever signed to Def Jam.
1:08:02It's not right. We should have never let that happen. That was a flag. But we like negative and we like controversy so much. He went to the Army, right? He went military? Yeah. Cannabis went to the military after that? Sing my man to the military, man. He ain't super nice. If there was anybody the big pun wanted to smoke with, it was cannabis. Why anybody wanted to smoke with cannabis? Nah, because pun respected him. Blinky Blink left Harlem, went to his album release party, and Julio'd him. On cannabis? Yeah. What for? He was an L.O. fan or something? He said there's something about him in the rhyme.
1:08:51He went to his album party in the album. Went to his album release party. I never liked the KRS through P.M. Dawn off the stage. I used to love P.M. Dawn, bro. I didn't like that. There were certain shits that we didn't like. He wasn't supposed to say nothing about Chris, though, man. The teacher, man. Did he say something about Chris, P.M. Dawn? He had to. He went on stage as the power would do his ass off. he had to do some serious violation for him to do that. Damn. God without you. I used to love that shit. Right? P.M. Dorn had knocks though. P.M. Dorn was the shit, bro. Yo, I fucked with P.M.
1:09:29Dorn. I think he passed away. He passed away. Rest in peace. P.M. Dorn. I remember Finesse had the beef with my man's the funky man over there in Jersey. I live for the funk. I died Mr. Funky. Him and Finesse had a rap battle. Yeah, they super cool. No, they mad cool. Sometimes, I was just with 50 Cent. We got all that, had all that history with him. You know, you respect people when you go to war with them and you see like, you like, damn. And then, you know, 50 Cent just told me this shit too many. He said, yo, you know, the beef was never with you. He said, you just too loyal. He said, you too loyal and you just took they side because you made music with him.
1:10:15But I swear to God, he just told me this one day ago. He was like, yo, I never really had real beef with you. It was just, you know, you jump. And then somebody told me, think about it now. Somebody told me, like, I try to get two rappers to squash your beef, big time rappers. I had one ready to squash it. And this ain't 50 Cent Jaru. I had one ready to squash it. I went to see the other in this house. and you know what he told me? Yo, Joe, why would I squash this? Because every time I just say their name or diss them, I go viral. There's no way I'm going to squash that. You believe that people keep problems because they know if they say your name, they're going viral automatically?
1:11:04And so the guy told me, why would I squash the beef? Every time I want to go viral, I just say, fuck these guys. Yo, the game is fucked up. That's crazy. The chemistry of the game is crazy. But I mean, think about it, right? You know what I'm saying? We started with Jimmy and then now he's on a world tour about, you know what I'm saying? I don't think Nas even responded, right? He responded with a casino. He responded with a casino. That was bad, yo. He responded with a casino. With a casino. do you know what 1 % of a casino is? 2025? I'm sure he got more than that. I'm just saying, yeah, he responded with a casino.
1:11:52We're going to wrap up with that. Yeah, let me tell you something. He responded with a casino. What can we say after that? We at Roc Nation. Every time I thought I had some for Jay-Z, he'd be like, out in Monaco, where the grapes are 5 ,000 to eat. I'd be like, yo, this guy, he's just, the word that I step on is a million dollars. I'm like, yo, we can't say shit about this guy. That was Juan's bill. The most ever spent on indictment. Indictment. That was Juan's bill. I mean, I think Nas took a page out of his hose book with this one. When he just said, okay, perfect time. And you promoted the casino.
1:12:35Here you go. And on that note, We the biggest in the motherfucking game. This nigga. Joe Crack. Hold on. What is it? It's Crack. It's Kiss. This ain't that. That ain't Kiss. That ain't Kiss. You know what it is, man. It's Crack and Kiss and the motherfucking train is coming. Let me tell you something, man. Y 'all see what's going on out there, man. Y 'all see. Subscribe. Do whatever you want to do. Like, share, subscribe. That damn. You see? So you do know what's going on out there. You know, we never said like, share, subscribe. I don't know why you think I'm on the rock, Crack. Let me tell you something, man.
1:13:09Like, share, subscribe, whatever the fucking shit is. Listen, it's the inevitable. If y 'all want smoke, get at us. If you don't, it is what it is. But the train keep coming, baby. The train. Y 'all see this shit? Everything we talk about super viral. There's no way to stop it, brother.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss dig in the crates and share some legendary stories from their come up in New York City. They share memorable moments like witnessing Eminem for the first time when he opened for Joe and Big Pun, the full story behind Pun joining Terror Squad, a young Jadakiss accidentally attending an unbelievable block party with Run-D.M.C., Rappin' Duke, and The Fat Boys, Joe and 50 Cent squashing their beef, Big Daddy Kane introducing the world to Jay-Z, and the battle between LL Cool J and Canibus. Along with the stories about hip hop legends, Joe and Jada share some wild stories from their teenage years in NYC, from causing chaos on Halloween night to an unreal confrontation between the Bronx and Brooklyn at a March of Dimes event. They finish off the show by picking their top-five posse cuts, including LL's "I Shot Ya (Remix)" and Craig Mack's "Flava In Ya Ear (Remix)."
05:00 - Suge Knight's place in hip hop history
12:30 - Jada attending AMAZING Run-D.M.C. block party
17:15 - Eminem opening for Joe & Big Pun
25:30 - Big Pun joining Terror Squad
35:30 - Throwback stories from their NYC blocks
1:03:15 - Top 5 posse cuts
1:12:30 - Joe squashing 50 Cent beef
Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano return to headline the most decorated boxing card in history, featuring 9 world champions and 21 titles on the line. Streaming LIVE Friday, July 11 on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/82035642
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