In short
Karl-Anthony Towns discusses his Knicks offseason and fit, his NBA journey from Minnesota to New York, lessons from coaches/teammates, and Dominican pride and giving back.
Guest backgrounds
Karl-Anthony Towns is a Dominican-American NBA center, drafted No. 1 overall in 2015 by the Minnesota Timberwolves after one season at Kentucky. He grew up around New York basketball culture (Rucker Park, Gauchos) and credits his father and Dominican godfather for shaping his connection to the culture.
Key claims
He says the Knicks’ culture under coach Tom Thibodeau “changed the whole” winning mindset and that New York’s Garden energy makes every game feel high-stakes. He emphasizes staying present, learning from vets (especially Kevin Garnett), and having bench depth as a championship factor. He compares Nikola Jokic’s greatness to controlling pace with elite touch and IQ.
Notable examples
Kentucky “Midnight Madness” and Calipari’s celebrity-like fan attention; Towns’ rookie stats (18.3 PPG, 10.5 RPG in 2015-16); KG’s leadership habits (calling refs/players by name); Towns’ Knicks debut excitement and a specific “step back”/fadeaway moment; Dominican memories like beet salad from his godfather; community giving and Dominican Republic initiatives.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCultural Roots and Family Influence
2:52 to 3:54
Karl shares his connection to the Dominican culture and family legacy.
“I got to get a porta potty back there, because I can't even make it to the bathroom.”
College Basketball Experience at Kentucky
3:54 to 6:32
Discussion about Karl's time at Kentucky and the celebrity-like status of the team.
“Only thing I hated, they used to make me eat the red, the beets.”
The Importance of Presence
6:32 to 7:38
Karl reflects on appreciating the present and lessons learned in life and basketball.
“And, you know, the crazy stories being there and just seeing how the fans and their interactions went, you know, March Midnight Madness was something like a movie.”
Lessons from KG and NBA Journey
7:38 to 10:48
Karl discusses mentorship from Kevin Garnett and transitioning into the NBA.
“Don't worry about everything that could come with this situation.”
Draft Day and Adjusting to Minnesota
10:48 to 14:01
Karl recounts his draft experience and the challenges of moving to Minnesota.
“We're going to take it back a little bit to the Miami Timberwolves.”
Reflections on a Legendary Game
14:01 to 18:09
Hear the hosts reminisce about a classic basketball game and the emotions involved.
“I put up with you and Spike right after that.”
Coach Tibbs and Team Dynamics
18:10 to 23:55
A discussion about Coach Tibbs' impact on the Knicks and team culture.
“to bring their best version to the table so that we can, you know.”
Player Experiences and Challenges
23:56 to 27:43
Insights into the challenges faced by players and their experiences on the court.
“You know, I know I say work and I say job, but it really is.”
Player Experiences and Challenges
27:57 to 30:34
Insights into the challenges faced by players and their experiences on the court.
“Open up the Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app.”
Player Experiences and Challenges
32:20 to 32:33
Insights into the challenges faced by players and their experiences on the court.
“Monthly rates on the Total Base 5G Unlimited plan.”
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Knicks Rumors and Family Ties
33:07 to 34:27
Discussion about Karl-Anthony Towns and rumors of joining the Knicks.
“And then he cut me off because he was sticking to the script.”
Fashion in Basketball
34:27 to 36:53
Conversation on fashion in basketball, iconic players, and styles.
“Rich Flair's birthday was yesterday too.”
Skill Development and Competition
36:53 to 41:42
Karl-Anthony Towns discusses his development as a player and competition.
“you actually won the three point shooter do you?”
The Role of Luck and Hard Work
41:42 to 42:01
Towns shares insights on the importance of luck and hard work in his career.
“that I just had no option other than plan A is plan A, go for a team NBA player.”
Dedication to Craft: Karl's Journey
42:01 to 43:39
Learn about Karl's childhood dedication to basketball and the sacrifices he made.
“I had keys to a hardwood floor that was great.”
The Essence of Rap and Basketball
43:40 to 45:45
Explore the parallels between the dedication required in both rap and basketball.
“I'm not trying to put myself on your level, but like this guy was born a rapper.”
Celebrating Wins and Learning from Losses
45:46 to 48:13
Karl discusses the importance of celebrating victories and the lessons from defeats.
“I was talking to my girl yesterday about this because, you know, shout out to her again.”
Giving Back to the Community
48:14 to 51:47
Karl emphasizes the importance of giving back and his philanthropic efforts in the Dominican Republic.
“Especially if you playing at the Garden.”
Chasing Respect Over Wealth
51:48 to 55:22
Karl shares his perspective on seeking respect rather than wealth in his career.
“When you go there, you're going to be like, yo, this shit is great, but they cost money to go in there.”
Aiming for Championship Glory
55:23 to 56:00
Karl discusses the Knicks' aspirations for a championship title and the mindset needed to achieve it.
“You gotta be striving for greatness every day.”
Introduction of Carl Anthony Towns
56:00 to 58:12
The hosts set the stage for an exciting episode with NBA star Carl Anthony Towns.
“The train, the first podcast I came in playing that shit for a while.”
Transcript
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2:25It's your boy Jada, man. You know who it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. You never know who's going to come sit on the blue couch. You know, I'm basketball to the death. So is my brother. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for New York Knicks. own New Jersey's own Carl Anthony Towns. Make something.
3:18Yo! Special greeting. Yo! That's a special greeting. That's love. You know, my godfather was Dominican. For real? No, sir. Mm-hmm. What do you want me to do? I got to get a porta potty back there, because I can't even make it to the bathroom. Let me show you something. That's a great deal. My godfather's a great man. My father was a great man. Rest in peace. But my godfather, he filled in wherever my father didn't. took me places and the Yankee games and this shit took me to museums and he lived in Dykeman and that's how I became real tight with the Dominican culture. Only thing I hated, they used to make me eat the red, the beets.
4:01Oh. What they call that in Spanish? It's even funny in Spanish, the beet salad. Dominicans eat the beet salad. I ain't never had that. Shit, bro. That beets is good for you. That shit like poison, man. That's Pete. talk to him, man. Beats is good. Beats is playing La Marea, some shit, man. Yo, that man used to force me. I used to damn near cry to eat that shit. He's a great man, so I always love Dominicans, man. Carl Anthony Town. Yes, sir, Ski. We had your brother on recently. We just interviewed your big Blue Nation brother, John Wolf. Yes, sir. It was a great interview. Check that out. You know, I love ball, so I gotta love basketball.
4:42No flags. I love it. From basketball to the heart, I'm going to ask you. You can tell me to stop anytime. No, no, no. I'm just going to ask you, man, shit. No, no. 38-1 with a final four appearance. I know. One season at Kentucky. How was your experience? How was Coach Cowell? How was the royalty? What was going on on campus? Let me know some of these things. Nah, it's special. That place is special. It's crazy. I haven't had that kind of experience with the fans appreciating a game of basketball that way until really I got here. And Minnesota was great, but just the energy the city has for the game.
5:22You know, I grew up here and just noticing all that stuff. And I said it before, you know, playing and you work with the Gauchos gym and everything and always being around, playing at Rucker Park 2 and everything. It was crazy to be able to kind of relive that kind of energy in basketball again. And I haven't had that kind of experience until I got here. John Wall also said he brought to our attention that college basketball went dormant a little. It lost its fluidity a little to Kentucky. Cow started rolling y 'all out like y 'all were celebrities. Like, y 'all was real. People was running home to catch the games.
6:03You don't want to miss no games, no tournaments. He made y 'all, it's like he evolutionized what was going on with the Fab Five. And they kind of paved the way. But when y 'all got there, y 'all was like an NBA team in college. What is that like? I mean, we felt like rock stars there. You know, everywhere we went, you know, people noticed who we were. Then I was the number one guy on the team or he was at the end of the bench. Everyone was rock stars. And, you know, the crazy stories being there and just seeing how the fans and their interactions went, you know, March Midnight Madness was something like a movie.
6:42So it was crazy to have those kind of moments. And especially with a team like that, you know, such a historical team. Cal always told us, make sure we enjoy these moments because you'll never have that much talent in one room for basketball ever again. that's crazy because your man John Wall said the cow told him yo make sure you take some guys with you it was different for us I mean we had nine draft picks you know they had five they had five first round they had five first round nine he was like yo make sure you take some guys with you and the people who didn't even go to the NBA on our team that year ended up going to the NBA the next year that's crazy really amazing that's a great thing man that's a story that's a dream come true Yeah.
7:27I mean, it's special. I mean, like he said, it's true. That was a key lesson for me in life. And even for last year, too, with our team, just stay in the present. Enjoy this moment. Don't worry about the future. Don't worry about everything that could come with this situation. Just enjoy being in the present because you're never going to get these moments back. You may never be in the same room again with these guys. You was young. Did you understand exactly what he was saying? I did. I did. I was young. I didn't understand that. You know what? I was fortunate I had experiences that had already told me to experience, to enjoy life in the present.
7:59Oh, with, you know, my uncle passing away and little things in life that, you know, they just teach you. You know, it humbles you. It gives you experience. It makes you understand certain things. When you were younger, you think you know everything and you obviously get older and you're like, what the hell was I thinking? You know, so I had those moments already in life where appreciating the present was a big key for me. You know, it's even like that now, right? Like I got a friend of mine who doesn't need my advice, who's got more money than me, more success and everything. But I felt like I had to tell him something.
8:32Yeah. And that's really, really hard, even with the young kids, right? With the young rappers, people be like, yo, why don't you pull a young? I'm like, yo, bro, you got a young kid that was, the odds was one out of every 20 million. He's rich now. He made it happen. how the hell I'm going to tell him anything? What to do, let alone another legend. Yeah. But I felt like I wasn't keeping it real if I didn't sit down and tell him, yo, look, I'm going to tell you something. I want you to get mad at me. I want this to mess up my relationship. But if you don't see what I'm telling you now, in five years, you'll understand.
9:11Yeah, absolutely. Because it happened to me. People try to tell me stuff. I'm like, yo, what they talking about? And five years later, I'm sitting on a couch somewhere And I said, damn, he tried to put me on. And I was in the way of myself. So it's just so hard to be in the moment and be present. Because sometimes when you overcome so many odds, like, you know, you fucking, you know, you cat. Like, who's going to be able to tell you something? Nah. You know? You got to listen to the legends, man. Y 'all in hip-hop and culture, y 'all paved the way for these, you know, the new guys to be able to rap that way, to be able to move that way, to be able to wear the clothes they wear and stuff.
9:49So it's like, you got to always listen to the legends. And for me in basketball, you know, you know, KG was my vet. We're going to get into that. You know what I'm saying? KG was my vet. So I came into the NBA with, already have playing with Al Horford on the Dominican team, the Dominican national team and stuff. But then now you're going with KG. So you had that bond ahead of time. I had more of the old school mentality of approaching work, you know? You'd be the first one in the gym, last one to leave. But in that time, it's about the quality. It's not about just being able to say that. You can be the first one to the gym to do nothing until practice.
10:24And then after practice, leave. So actually utilizing that time, enjoying weightlifting, enjoying understanding diet, understanding how to move as a professional, how to communicate with people. One of the things with KG was calling everyone by their name, understanding the ref's names. you know, like, you know, treating men like men, you know, not acting like you better than anybody and stuff like that. He taught me a lot. 2015, you drafted number one overall. We're going to take it back a little bit to the Miami Timberwolves. That sounds crazy now, man. That sounds crazy. Ten years ago. It's a blessing.
11:00A decade. I'm blessed. Yeah, I'm blessed. He told me, too. He's like, you're going to blink. Five years is going to go by. You're going to blink again. You're going to be 10 years blinking again. You're going to be like, why the hell am I still doing that? So that's what they said. That's what he told me. So how did it feel? You got drafted. You had to go. This is what I always wanted to know. You got to go. Next morning, you got to go to Minnesota? Yeah, yeah. Next morning. What did that sound? Drafted. You drafted number one, whatever. I had the after party for the draft at the Knickerbocker.
11:29And then next morning, I was out. We're out from, was it Farmingdale? Left from Farmingdale straight to Minnesota. Yo, it's cold as fuck in Minnesota. You wouldn't know. No, no, no, no. There's no fluidity in Minnesota. Boy, it's cold as fuck out there. Minus 27 some days. This guy, Stephon Mulberry, used to cry out there. He wanted to get to it. Steph probably could have won chips out there. He just got out of there. He couldn't take it. He even was going to quit the league. Or, you know, he didn't want to be in Minnesota. Minnesota got great people and great fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wasn't used to it.
12:07Sometimes they drive underground. sometimes it's so fucking cold or something. Oh, like, in Minnesota, like, for instance, downtown, they got, like, skyways, so you don't actually have to walk outside. Or, like, for downtown, the streets under it is under the concrete. It's hot water circulating to help with the icy bitch. I have to. What do you have to do when you first get there? Is it basically to meet, see the facility? Right, when you land, when I landed there, got in the car, went straight down to Target Center, but it was Lowe's and had your press conference introducing yourself to the fans so it's immediate.
12:43It's right away. I had a bad run-in with that. They had me introduce Kemba and the other guy ain't scored two points and shit. The Knicks was like, we want you to introduce welcome them to the Knicks. I welcome them motherfuckers that ain't do shit.
13:00We want you to introduce them. Yo, we got Kemba Walker. We got, who was it, 48 or something and both of them ain't do shit. I'm sitting there like, yo, We so happy they hit. Kimba, I love you, man. Yo, Kimba, don't do that. Don't do that. We just have a... You're supposed to represent. Kimba Walker. I did, though. Both of them can score the ball, too, though. They really scored. This was Chaz State. Well, he was banged up. Kimba Walker. Yeah, injury, yes. Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. Yeah, we got to make some shirts, yo, yo. Yo! We hot. Kimball was hurt. Yeah, yeah, he got, he had some injuries.
13:41He had some veterans. There's nothing, there's nothing better than watching him in UConn on the Big East, man. Kill, he killed, he killed. College? I remember, you remember that? Step back. Oh my God, against Pittsburgh too. That was him. That old run though. Yeah. He was mad at the beginning. Your step back last year. That three point. Whoa! Whoa! Then you said, whoa! Whoa! I said, what the? I got a classic pick. I put up with you and Spike right after that. Oh, yes, yes, yes. It's in my house. All right, I'm trying to realize. Go through your time frame. It's in my house. Go through your time frame.
14:18It's in my house right now. It's not a ass fight. You can tweak out a bunch of people. Yeah, I do, I do. That was a legendary pick. Yeah, I definitely, it's so funny because I feel like re-watching that and you see me like in that mode, just aggression and just talking. I was talking shit. That was like you had a spring on a ball, folks. You burned that shit back. You threw that shit. You dished. You ran to the fucking bench. You was like, yeah. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I was losing my mom. Yeah, yeah, Jada, Jada. And I love this basketball. I laugh. I laugh because I thought. You can speak out when it's basketball.
14:53I laugh because I was talking about it, actually, before I just came to the podcast. I was saying how, what the hell was I thinking? Because before that was the turnaround fadeaway going out of bounds. And I said, you take one bad shot to go compound it with a worse shot. But for me in that moment, those felt like I was wide open. Your basket was this big. Yeah, I felt that I had a good look at basket. You had to do that. That was that kind of envy. I mean, we needed to win, man. We needed to win. I was never planning to lose that game. That was even in Pelham. So I was not going to allow that to happen.
15:27Yeah, he played all 82 games. The 2015-2016 season, averaging 18.3 points. Ten and a half rebounds. Not a bad rookie year. Yeah, that's just damn great numbers as a rookie. Yeah. What was it like? And what was KD? What kind of crazy shit was KD? KD was going crazy, man. I was with him on the team when he called Eric Gordon trash. I was on the team on that one. KG don't give a fuck. Nah, I love that. We don't bring him up enough as one of the tough guys in the NBA. KG was tough. I mean, like, he didn't give a fuck. Nah. You know what's cool about him, too? KG looked like he punched a rapper in the face.
16:17No, I'm telling you, who he went at with? I think they almost fought. He told them some crazy shit KG told. KG KG eats his own bottle patrol, right? You motherfuckers. He know what I'm talking about. He said before you even remember, he's just on bottle patrol. Don't even go down that road. Don't let your mind remind you that was an ugly one, right? Oh my God. KG's different, man. He's different. And you know what's why I was appreciative of this. His energy, it went through the whole locker room. Just the way he approached the game, the way he played with so much passion and it was cool to be able to have something like that.
17:02Who's that on the Knicks now? Who's that on the Knicks now that got that? Well, last year, I don't think y 'all got them this year. Last year I seen, you know how coach at the Rucker, you know what I mean? Takes a special qualification. Hey, I want everyone on camera to understand everyone behind the camera said, pshh. Yo, listen, it's hard to win them chips at the Rucker, but it takes a special. It's almost a spiritual to wake everybody up and get everybody to win a championship. It takes it. I seen P.J. Tucker trying that last year on the bench, like, let's go. You know, he was that. Who's the guy on the Knicks now currently that will amp up?
17:44It's God. Like, let's go. Oh, and I feel like P.J. was great for us last year. And like you said, you saw him contribute to us. You know, I think he's like a 20 years in the NBA. You know, I'm hoping that we get to see him in the NBA this year as well. You know, us as a team haven't got a chance to get together yet. So, yeah, you know what I'm trying to say? To see where the vibes are at. So, I think that right now, you know, everyone's working on their game to bring their best version to the table so that we can, you know. I like getting that with a chance. guy. That just got filled with y 'all.
18:18Oh, Gershon? Oh, he's not even African. He's not African. He is African. Listen. Hell, I'll throw the flag. Let me tell you something. We even pick a flag. Just both of them. Listen, he's from Africa. We gotta get you a list. Can you Google where he's really from? Is he from Nigeria? Ladies and gentlemen. I just told you I love the guy. I'm a fucking huge fan. Can't love him. You even know where he's from. He's not. All right. Can you Oh, he's Dominican? No, not the big African. You didn't know that? All flags for that. From the France? He's Dominican. You got another Dominican on the team. Did you know that shit?
18:55No, he didn't. I thought he ain't from Africa. You got the wrong guy. No, he... Yo. Gershon. He's Dominican? Yo, we got to give him a list. Play that shit again. He keeps describing people by the... My mail, my mail, my mail, my mail. You know what I expected, man? What? From you. I'm just going to tell you right now what you need to do. I need all of these. I think you, I'm not telling you what to do with your money, right? Mm-hmm. But you should have like a foundation to sell a bunch of Dominicans every game, and they playing the fucking music up on the stairs. and they just going it should be the call at the town section at the Knicks I expected that I swear to God just me being a fan I grew up watching tonight so I know how you get down so I thought you was going to have a section up there like yo just go hi-yah all the fucking families immigrated from the Congo he's from the Congo oh he's Dominican played the song yo he said he was Dominican keep going with the joke I know the guys from Africa bro why y 'all trying to fake me out like that man everybody's from Africa yes I fucking kissed this thing is crazy with this shit well I love this guy this is a great podcast How does Clarkson You asking him shit He just told you They didn't see each other What are you thinking in your mind Scoring He's just gonna pure score I mean for sure They said he need the ball You always need firepower And to expect I think as fans It's gonna be And as players, you have to understand, you need firepower because you never know what's going to happen in the year.
20:59You never know who's going to be healthy. You never know what's going to happen. But if always, you got a backup plan. And you got people who are just as willing to start as anybody, I think that's what's going to make us special. You got to be able to have those people. If you look at championship teams, some of the times it's the ones that win you the championship are not the starting five. It's that guy on the bench, Sean Livingston. The Pinsers. Yeah. You got a hell of a team over there. Andre, you got a hell of a team in Minnesota. Yeah. There's rumors. Hold on. Let me get, because you, let me tweak out.
21:31You take the damn out. Listen to this. Let's cut the bullshit. You got a long history with Tibbs from Minnesota all the way over here. What's going on? I love when people ask me that. And I said, boy, I've only been here six months. What do you want me to say? But I just talked to Tibbs. He's good. We had dinner and everything. It's politics. and they always seem to think they play. No, because in the music industry, if something happens with an executive, I don't have no fucking idea what's going on upstairs. I was here six months. I was with my mans. And Tim's is my mans, too. Each is on Bottle Patrol.
22:10That's the answer. Each is on Bottle Patrol. It's like Pete in the... We New Yorkers. We just want to know. We very concerned. You see us at this game. But shout out to him, though. You know, like, obviously, I was in Minnesota before I got here. But, like, watching him just do so many. I know, Tim. Bro, what you mean I met him before? Why we doing this? I definitely want you to bring him up here. Hello? Yeah, I know. That's a good one. Tim's was in my house before I was in my house. Huh? You see? I'm building. Tim's was in your house. What you mean by that? Damn. Before you was in your house.
22:51What the poltergeist is going on here? Worldwide West lives across the street from my house. As I was building my house, I didn't even live there yet. Fucking West gave Timbs a tour of my house. Yo, Joe's going to put the marble bar here. He's going to just, Timbs said, yo, you better watch your neighbors. This man that took me in your house. Showed him the blueprint. Showed him the blueprints. Yo, this is where we're going to have pool parties. and this, nah, man, yeah, let me tell you, Coach Tibbs, amazing job. Amazing job with the Knicks. Tibbs came to New York, changed the culture. Changed the whole...
23:30Brought New York back to winning culture. Yeah, I got to the Eastern Conference finals last year. And that's not just the players. That's a testament to the coaching staff, the work he put in. And you got to give credit all around to those guys. You know, they put the work in and they got us in a position and gave us a chance to succeed. So, Tibbs is special I think anyone who knows basketball knows he's special I got number left for Tibbs shout out to Tibbs man I definitely got called you up to he don't smile with nobody I got pictures smiling with him yeah nah with a coach nah I used to love sitting him watching him sit there and flip talking shit just go crazy yeah fuck he walking back and forth cursing himself out in the fucking side I'm sitting there like yo this is crazy man I love Tibbs man and you know You have any experience with Coach Brown?
24:19Or not yet? We ain't started yet. Not yet. Not yet. But I'm excited to get to work. You know, basketball's fun. You know, I know I say work and I say job, but it really is. When you're having fun and you're passionate, I think both of y 'all know is legends. Yeah, I'm having fun and passionate writing and making music and touring and stuff. It doesn't feel like work. It feels like a blessing. You know, it's almost like a fucking Cinderella season for y 'all now. Yeah. And with no disrespect, a lot of major guys got injured. So you got Halliburton injured, the star of Indiana. Tatum. You got Tatum injured, the star of Boston.
24:58They injured and traded. Boston turned up. I've never seen no shit like this. They don't want to trade it, the whole team. They did? Yeah. Chris August is in Atlanta. Zengis. Horford is out. Is Horford out? No, Horford. No, Horford's there. He's still there. kept him? Yeah. Horford's still there. Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday. And they got rid of the big guy. A presence in Atlanta. No, the other big... Oh, Cornette? Yeah. They sent Cornette to the... Where'd he send Cornette? Did he disparage? Or somewhere? When that happened? I know, I know, but I didn't know if they signed him back. Yo, you already off.
25:38Four days ago? You call an African guy Dominican. You your off right now. He's going to the Golden State. He's going to the Golden State? That's a major pick. I told y 'all this, man. That's a Dominican, man. I see him in the NBA. It's hard to do. Oh, no. That's a big next. In the NBA. And he's solid. Shout out to him, man. Shout out to my vet. He's solid. You know, I never understood why, like, young players don't abuse the older guys. Like, like, like. What? Pause again. Hey, we didn't even have to say. Y 'all know. I mean like to me I can't move like I moved when I was 20 years old I don't care how talented an older player is you gotta stop I can't move like I moved 20 years ago so like a guy like you with no disrespect yeah like I would think you should just go to the rack on Al Hoffman or they they're just impossible oh I gotta genetically huh I got to step in because I can't get fined in none of that.
26:43They was, you, the playoffs, they was fouling the hell out of you, dog. I'm not, I'm used to that. Yo, yo, this last whole season, I don't know, it was, it was, they was mad because you came to the city and you had the whole city, but you got, they missed a lot of, you was getting pushed off your, you know what I mean? You're a large human being, so you can take a regular bath. Yo! He's extraordinary. He's an NBA player. Oh, boy. The cereal gliss in there. What? Listen, he jerked them on Matt Hall's lap. Fuck. Yo, yo, yo. Yeah, don't steal my yo, yo, yo. Yo, listen, this year's repping race, he needs his calls.
27:42Without no yo, yo, yo. Fouls. Send him to the line.
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33:06I was going to ask you a question, right? And then he cut me off because he was sticking to the script. Then he lost his mind too, right? The question is, you in Minnesota. Yeah. I was already hearing rumors that you coming to the Knicks. So was I. Back when Donovan Mitchell was coming to the Knicks. I already heard Carl Anthony tell. Right? Yeah. And so you in Minnesota, and this is home, right? At any point you say to yourself, holy shit, I might be coming to the Knicks and you seeing what they're doing. Are you saying like, yo, I fit in. Did this be crazy?
33:48I would I would be lying if I said I didn't see the rumors and know that there could be truth to them. so the idea of coming back home playing for it's well documented my favorite team growing up to watch my dad had a quick and early stint with the with the organization back in the Patrick Ewing days so it was kind of like you know your dad's the coolest he sits oh man he loves he loves that's what I'm so much I remember that team he talk about y 'all all the time oh he be there like yo I already know he gonna be so happy when this podcast comes out. No, that's... We should have brought him here.
34:27They should have brought him here. His dad was... His birthday was yesterday. So it's going to be fun. Your dad's birthday was yesterday? Yeah, it's going to be a good birthday. Rich Flair's birthday was yesterday too. Your girlfriend. Yeah. Very classy young lady. It's Fashion Week and she posted that she got a clothing line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's stepping on the building. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This shit is crazy. She came through like Snoop and crushed the buildings. What? Like Snoop crushing the buildings. that's what I came home to that's what my daughter you know they doing this fashion week shit speaking of fashion he be having he throw that shit on too he said SGA is the most fashionable NBA player ever how could he say that SGA ain't get fresh you made him ever he made him of all time who do you think is the most fashionable Dr.
35:20J Dr. J come through with that shit on with Cashmere with his sister. Most iconic pictures I've seen in sports do with is, was that Joe Namath with that fur? I ain't gonna lie to y 'all. I think for me, basketball-wise or fashion-wise, I think one of the most iconic photos is seeing Allen Iverson's mom doing his cornrows on the bench. That's fire. That was it. That's cold. We was there for all that. Magic did it before Broadway, Joe, and he with Michael Jackson and all of them, and what about that flick? Magic, that was crazy. That flick with them. Joe Namath borrowed this shit from Matt. He might have.
35:55He might have. He definitely did. Flag in the back. Hey, pass me the flag, man. What you think, man? Come on, shit. I remember we did four podcasts in three days and shit. We been... There you go. The biggest shit. Hey, yo, what? Because, you know, I'm very competitive. Yeah. So if I get it, I got into the podcast world, I'd be number one. You want to be number one. You want to be the best. The best. I mean, but that's how y 'all became legends. That's what y 'all do. Yeah, I didn't stop at being good. It was like, I want to be great. I want to be all time. And we got a new job. It's called podcasting.
36:35And boy, we giving them hell. We've been having a good time up here, bro. Now y 'all, y 'all, that's taking over the podcast world, so shout out to y 'all. But y 'all, I expect nothing less from y 'all. Let's keep it on the court. You consider yourself the best big man three point shooter you won you actually won the three point shooter do you? yes no for sure without a doubt you know I went on Mellow's show yeah and said you're the greatest offensive big man in the league of this time and I caught a lot of like I was like arguing with the whole set yeah and you know Joker's dead nice he's real what do you think about the Joker like when you look at his style of play what makes him great and different Hall of Fame touch around the basket, being able to right-hand hook, left-hand hook off the backboard.
37:29Slows the game. Slows the game down. You know, he plays, you know, I feel like, I know basketball, so like, you know, his ability to control pace. He controls the team's pace. You know, John Wall, what made him great when he became an all-star was his ability to change pace. When he stopped going 150 miles per hour and he was able to go 150, to go to 20 miles, to go to 120, to go to eight. You know what I'm trying to say? So changing the pace. Joker just, he got a Hall of Fame touch. He's extremely smart. His IQ is through the roof. He's able to pass. He's able to control the pace. The offensive scheme works with his greatest strengths.
38:08And he has teammates that believe in him. He has a coaching staff that believes in an organization that believes in him. They put him in a position to succeed. and he deserves that kind of respect because he put the work in. He's shown the world that he could do this on a nightly basis. Man, shout out to Joker, man. I mean, he's rightfully got those MVPs. He deserves them. Facts. You know what you... I went to one game and I watched you at least, at least... I want to exaggerate, but I think the numbers I counted was like 10 different moves. This was... Yeah, tweet, fade away, this, that, this.
38:48You got somebody like, what's my man, Donchovich, he do the same shit. Hey, he's great at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he got that one move, right? Melo had that one fade away, right? He got that step. But Melo had a triple threat. I was one of the best ever. No, no, no, no. But he really had that. He had that step. Kaya and his get, no, it's lethal. That's what I'm saying. But I watched this man. the reason why I made that statement on Mello is I've been watching basketball a long time. I've never seen nobody have that variety of offense as a big man as you. I appreciate that. So I'm sitting on the sideline with Tracy Morgan.
39:28You know, he's a bug out. He's a threat. Tracy's been talking to me about the Knicks for how long? No, that boy's a tweaker. We need your new show forever. We need Tracy Morgan on here because the man said what Irie Spears said, he look like a Yo, yo, yo, yo, each his own bottom with you. Yo, he said so. But I seen you bust so many moves that I was just like, yo, this guy's like really is unstoppable. Because people always got one move, maybe two moves. You got so many different. Man, you got a bag. I'm a reactive player. I mean, I grew up in Jersey playing in the parks. Like I said, coming to New York, playing in a record park, Gauchos.
40:06You play with older kids. You're always like, you're 15. you're playing U17 you know you're playing I was even younger than that I was playing U16 U17 you know my dad and I always believed you know if you want to be the best you got to go against the best and when I was younger never except being good like yeah always wanted to chase greatness so you know I wanted the best competition I could find in Tri-State and I wanted to test my skills every single weekend Who you saw play? You ever watched like a Kobe game or something like that like me we used to watch wrestling and after wrestling we closed lines Yeah, nah, for sure.
40:39I grew up in that era too. Attitude era and all, yeah. Was you doing that, like going out in the snow, Kobe fade away, or like, who was a player that you was? You know, I say, you know, people, I was having this conversation the other day too. I love that I get to talk about my life a little bit, but I was having this conversation, funny enough, with my girl. And I was saying, you know, sometimes in life you get lucky. Sometimes it's God-given. and sometimes you just work so hard that you just garner that skill um and some for some fortunate people they get all three and they be able to have that mindset god and luck on their side and i was telling her i said for me i i think i really had a in a way all three coincided with my career but I really believe that it was really two things.
41:33The two that I got really, that I had in my possession was luck. And I worked so hard to be this good and find a way to be great at my craft that I just had no option other than plan A is plan A, go for a team NBA player. But my luck came from my father because my father was a high school coach. And one of the hardest things to do when you're young and you're broke is to have a gym. And my dad being a high school coach, I had keys to a hardwood floor that was great. Not like a hardwood floor that was like, okay, I'm talking about a really good hardwood floor playing basketball. So I had somewhere to work on my craft.
42:14And I had a father that also was athletic and agile enough and talented enough, like I said, where he was able to rebound for me and also understand what I truly needed to do. And for me with the work aspect, You know, I had to show up, you know, as a young kid, too. I had to dedicate my childhood, my whole childhood, like all the things other kids got to do and stuff and experience. I didn't get that chance because I was in the gym and I was working. Sacrificing, you know, and I was willing to do that. And at an early age, I remember even thinking about that. Like, you know, maybe I want to go to that, you know, that party, obviously younger, like party at whatever.
42:53Maybe try to go to the park more, hang out with my friends. I was, you know, I was in the generation that still, you didn't know someone was home unless the bike was in front, you know? So I was still in that generation. So I dedicated my childhood to being great at sports and basketball and baseball is my love of basketball. And to have a hardwood court, I feel that that gave me a huge advantage on the competition. And it allowed me to work on all these moves. And I was riding back to the library, looking at getting the VHSs, putting the VHS in and watching, you know, the great play. Hakeem Olajuwon, getting to see, you know, KG, getting to see Sam Perkins for me.
43:32You know, I was looking back at the day, Eddie Jones and Gary Payton and Pistol P and I like just Magic Johnson, of course. So it was like one of those things where I dedicate my childhood to studying the game, you know, being part of the culture. I'm very similar. I'm not trying to put myself on your level, but like this guy was born a rapper. Like, I don't think if you ain't rap, what you was going to do? I mean, he's one of the best lyrists I've ever heard. What are you going to do? So him, Eminem, Jay-Z, Pun, these guys was born with this shit. Yeah. Right? I had to practice. Shout out to Pun, too.
44:08I would have been in pharmaceuticals. Rest in peace. But I had to practice and then it was a time when we was the hottest dudes in the world. I mean, The hottest dude. I mean, I was here. I was the one. My mom would tell me, go get the radio, put the radio on. You see what I'm saying? And we, and Pun, who I signed, he was my student. I brought him in the game. He taught me how to rap better. And it's summertime and they pulling up in the benzes, in the trucks and they're like, yo, it's popping beat. Yo, over here, this, this, that. Pun be like, fuck that. We got it right. Yeah. You got to work on your shit.
44:41And it's summertime, 90 something degrees. And they pulling up. Yo, it's all. We're going to pull up. Orchard Beach. Yo, it's on out there. This and that shit ringing number one on the radio. I was like, nah, fuck that. We're gonna stay here. You gotta get better, bro. You gotta get nice. You gotta get this and this and that. That was a big, yo, so many summers I sacrificed instead of going outside and enjoying. When you get a hit, this is the difference between maybe basketball and rap. When you get a hit, everybody's praying for a hit. You get a hit, you go get the bag. You're either promoting that hit till it becomes a hit.
45:20Yeah. And then once it's a hit you go get the bag. You can't stand in your name. You can't go to Dykeman and be like meeting back and watch the crowd. It don't work like that. You busy going to get the check performing all over. We don't get same with you. You don't get that rush. You don't get to stand there. You can't go to Yonkers and be like yeah you too busy running around the world. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was talking to my girl yesterday about this because, you know, shout out to her again. She had her New York Fashion Week event here in New York at the Knickerbocker. That photo shoot was flying.
45:55Yeah, nah, I'm super proud of her all the time. And I was telling her, I'm proud of her. And I told her, she had her event early in the day. I went to work. I took care of business, went to the event. And I told her, I said, I want you to enjoy today. Enjoy the wins because the wins are short-lived and the losses, they last for a long time. And I was telling her, and she was like, what you mean? I was like, let's put her just an example for me in my life. We beat Boston. New York's going crazy. The excitement, the energy through the roof. Never been like that in 25 years. And police was letting them climb the walls.
46:29Police, man, police was trying to do their job. They said, don't let us jump in. We want to be fans too. Celebrate. And they're not wrong. New York's not wrong. 25 years, you're supposed to have these celebrations. You're supposed to, you know, yearn for these moments. though. No, hell no. Go. Go have fun. This is the moment. This is what we work for. We work so the fans can have these moments. That shit was like a dream country. It's the world against New York. So let New York have a moment of celebration. They deserve it, man. Going back to the point of saying that when we won, of course, it was late night when we won, obviously.
47:06So you have that night. The team got together, documented. We went out and celebrated as a team. with each other, but you know, you got four hours. We celebrate. Great job. But tomorrow is back to work. The win is four hours live. Tomorrow is back to work. That's the crazy part of the playoff. You know what I'm trying to say? I was in Dubai when y 'all lost. That shit was days off. So here we go. To that point. Four hours we got to celebrate that win. We right back to work tomorrow. Indiana playbook. You know, Tibbs is a You know, he studies, you know, he's like that. So we get these books, these, they write this, this tall, they talk about, yo, you got to know this play, that play, this play, that play.
47:50We getting quiz and stuff. So it's four hours. You write back to the next, to the next, to the next job. I said, but when we lost in Indiana, drag six months. Now we wait until September 22nd to go get back together to try to, to remedy the mistake, you know? So I was telling her, enjoy these moments and these wins because the wins are short lived and the losses last a long time. I mean, we the New York Knicks. Everyone's playing against everybody. Every game's a championship. Especially if you playing at the Garden. Because everybody, we just, John Wall, everybody, you know how many NBA players I went to their house and they got the post up when they dropped 46 against the Knicks?
48:30I'm like, yo, you couldn't show this shit against Kobe? LeBron, why it got to be the Knicks that you scored 50 on and this and this and that? Because the Garden brings a different energy. World's most famous arena. Literally. You walking in there, even if it's a bullshit game, you walking in Madison Square Garden, what that feel like? Man, there ain't no bullshit games in the NBA. Everyone's, you need every win, you know. No, I agree. But I'm just saying, what it feel like to you? Do you ever go there extra early and just look up on the car and be like, you're all in the car? I'm there early, every game.
49:04I'm there, games at 7.30, I'm there 4 o 'clock. I'm lifting, I'm on the court. I remember I was there so early in the playoffs you was doing sound check you remember I came out and I was listening I decided to just see the performance I was like in the game I'm too locked in I'm not even going to be wanting to hear nothing else but basketball so like every day I show up at the garden I know there probably is going to be one kid at least one kid one family one adult that spent the last money they got for themselves to go to a next game and they want to see their favorite players play. I want to show up every night and play, you know, because I know that there's someone there that put extra hours at their job and to spend their hard work money to go and watch us play, watch me play.
49:53And it could be nothing more disappointing than me not playing. I see you doing a lot in the community, a lot of business ventures. How important is it to give back? It's very important. I mean, this is, like you said, it's God gave me the gift. And as soon as I discredit the gift, it'll take it away. So I got to, you know, pay forward. And the Dominican Republic doing a bunch of great work over there for the kids and everyone. Getting down with the A-Rod. You've been to that joint? No, I have not. The Amania? No, I have not. God. What is that? What is it? Yo, I don't want to blow it up. Hey, y 'all, y 'all.
50:33It's a vacation spot in Santo Domingo. I know about that. That shit looked like Fiji Island. I went there for Christmas for my family. It is beyond beautiful. Like, it's no way you thought on this side of the earth there's something that beautiful. And I'm talking about Turks, this, that, what, you name them. There's nothing that looks like that. Everybody goes for something, the men go on the other side. Well, your man, A-Wod, I think he invested like$10 billion or something to make some cribs over there or something. That's... What happened? No, I'm... No, I'm exaggerating. Yo, how much did he...
51:11How much... Google... Google... Two-time. Damn. The guy taking notes is fucking two-time felon. Yo, give... A-Rod, how much money invested in Santo Domingo, the new resort? A billion dollars. No, no. No, it's Fat Joe, dude. It's Fat Joe. 10 billion, 1 billion, what's the difference? $10 billion,$1 billion, what you want me to do? But I'm painting the picture. You need to get with that. I promise you that's going to be a success out there. I need, I mean, I got you. Don't worry about that. Are you telling me what you're doing? Are you telling me what you're doing? I understand. We're saying that he's investing.
51:53I'm telling you what's going to win. That is going to win. Yeah. That is going to win. The place is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Phenomenal. I'm on, yeah. Three hours away. When you go there, you're going to be like, yo, this shit is great, but they cost money to go in there. What I will say, though, is for me, I'm not looking to make money in DR. I'm looking to give money to DR. Okay. You know. Don't slow them. I'm trying to nurture the soil that's there. I don't want to take anything from the soil. I don't want to take anything from our people. I want to give to our people.
52:25I want to give them the chance to have the resources. That's people in the world. There's nothing like Dominicans. It's the most fun, most giving, best food. My mail, my mail, my mail, my mail. You know, I got an Italian friend, Stevie Matarana, one of the best chefs in the world. He always goes, yo, cuz, who don't want to be Italian? I'm ready to say, yo, yo, papito, who don't want to be dominicano? I just, I just, for me, God has given me the chance. And I always say, like, I appreciate the gift of this game and the game of basketball and the life and luck. I talked about earlier that I had, but money's not fulfilling to me anymore.
53:04When I was younger, it was always a chase of like, every young artist who bring up the bag, the money falling out. Like, I'm not fulfilled by that. You know, I don't need that anymore. I'm fulfilled by, in New York, I always talk about it. It's the greatest currency you can get in New York. It's respect. And that's all I look for these days is just respect. That's all I need. that. That's, that's, that's, you know, when that plane come back to New York, because, you know, I live in Miami and New York. When I go to Miami, I'm like, come on, everybody, when you do that, come, come, come. That's, that's what I'm thinking when that plane going down.
53:40But when I come in here and the shit coming down, I'm hearing, there's a wall going on outside. Nobody's safe from, you looking at, it just feel like the whole New York's a project building. You looking out the plane, that shit going down. You're like, it's a different type of Teflon you gotta have. But when you big, when the kids got your post in Coney Island, in Bay Ridge, in Yonkers, in the Bronx, in Harlem, in the Lower East Side, in Staten Island, and they all screaming your name. This is... If you want to get poppin', this is where you want to poppin'. Come on. Like you said, family... making ends meet, you know, people in a 200-square-foot apartment, 500-square-foot apartment, and they willing to dedicate some of their wall space to have you on the wall.
54:33The love is... That's respect. The love is unreal, and I argue with everybody. Shout out to my man. Who, he's at first gate. I argue with all the barbers, everybody. And Christmas game. I was arguing for you! Yeah. Rich, where's Rich Flair? His barber was dumb type. They traded Randall. I was like, yo, call Anthony. And I love Randall. Yeah. Tough guy. I love him and his family. Salute them. But I was super excited, and I started arguing with the whole barbershop, and I'm like, yo, bro. And then when we went to the finals, I was like, what's up? Oh, yo, you kind of was right. This, this, that.
55:09I told you I was right. What do we got to do? Are we going to see a championship in New York City, Carl? That's the plan. We hope so. That's the plan, yeah. I ain't come here. That's what the mission is set out. I ain't coming to be good. It can't be great. all time. You gotta be striving for greatness every day. A lot of guys try to get close with no cigar. A lot of guys is cool with being number two. A lot of guys you telling me that the DNA and the mindset of the New York Knicks when they behind the scenes and y 'all together they're saying yo we gonna win this championship. You mean did last year not prove that?
55:44No no. You know what I'm trying to say? Down 20 both times. Game 1 and Game 2 in Boston. You know what I'm trying to say? We never thought the game was over. I know everyone was at the house turning their TV to other channels, watching other games. I don't know what they was watching. Don't. The game was going. So, you know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, we are. The train is coming, baby. The train, the first podcast I came in playing that shit for a while. What was that? That movie Money Train. The train is coming, baby. Yeah. He was like, yo, what's that? I was like, yo, the train's coming. Yeah, I just, you just, you can't let anything cloud your mind the vision you got.
56:21And there ain't been a time we ain't walking there with having championship standards, you know? And obviously last year we came up short. He coming back late. 25 years in the making just to get to that point. And now, you know, we got to work even harder to get to the next step. What day is the Cleveland? September 22nd. No, no, no, no. October 22nd. October 22nd. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen. This ain't that. And that ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for our guest, Carl Anthony. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. On another legendary episode of Joe and Jay. Come on.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by New York Knicks superstar Karl-Anthony Towns. Joe and Jada ask the five-time NBA All-Star about the New York Knicks offseason, their run going through the Detroit Pistons and Boston Celtics to make the Eastern Conference Finals in the last year's NBA playoffs, the gut punch that came with losing to Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers, and how New York is looking going into this season with Mike Brown taking over for head coach Tom Thibodeau. They also discuss KAT's early years being mentored by Kevin Garnett on the Minnesota Timberwolves. KAT's legendary University of Kentucky college basketball squad, and why KAT is more motivated by gaining the respect of New York than money at this point in his NBA career.
5:00 - 38-1 Kentucky team
10:00 - Getting drafted No. 1 to Minnesota
15:30 - Rookie season & KG as a mentor
17:00 - Joe tries to compliment Guerschon Yabusele
21:30 - Mike Brown taking over for Thibs
24:45 - East is wide open w/ Tatum & Haliburton out
27:00 - Jadakiss calls out the refs for KAT
34:30 - His reaction to being traded to the Knicks
36:00 - KAT's girlfriend Jordyn Woods' fashion line
38:15 - Best big man three-point shooter ever?
42:00 - KAT credits his dad for his basketball gifts
47:00 - Avenging last year's loss to Pacers in ECF
49:30 - MSG & why there's nowhere like New York
51:30 - Love for Dominican Republic
56:00 - Joe's been KAT's biggest defender in NYC barber shops
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