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26:44I don't know exactly how, but he was down with us. And whenever we needed scratches, I'd be like, yo, Rock, he was the coolest guy in the world. And Rock Raider's nasty. Rock Raider was nasty. Like, I know this. I remember this. Why he killing that shit? And he be smiling. Why he doing the moves and the routines? Like, Rock Raider was like super smooth. And so it was the same thing with emceeing. Same thing. Like for me, I used to listen to Set It Off by Big Daddy Kane. Like how singers have people that they do the scales with. Singers and trainers that be, you know, let's do the scales and stuff like that to get their voices right.

27:26I used to listen to Big Daddy Kane's Set It Off to get myself right. Because it was a choppy, let it go, get ball. I just can't hold, you know what I'm saying? And I would be doing that. Rock the discotheque and screw this what's next. You know, get your mouth right. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I developed a style to be on some, excuse me, but I think I'm about to do. I get into precisely what I am about to do. I'm conversating to the folks who have no whatsoever clue. So listen very carefully as I break it down for you. Marry, marry, marry, marry, marry. You know what I'm saying?

27:57No doubt.

28:01To bring it back to what you're saying, absolutely. The study of what comes before you is what helps to make you great at what you do. in any field. Clark forced you to learn how to DJ. What did you take with that? It gave me a deeper respect for hip-hop in itself because I started in London when we first embraced the culture. I wasn't rhyming at first. I was breaking. I was a B-girl. B-girl, no doubt. Yeah, right? So it allowed me to embrace another element of the culture. When Clark was like, no, you're going to learn. You're going to learn how to bring a record back. You're going to learn how to recognize it.

28:39Here, I Put the tape markings on it. That's the one. Bring it back to the one. Flip the fader. Bring it back to the one. Flip the fader. Put the earphones on one side. Have the other ear kind of open so you can hear what's going on. Bring it back. Flip the fader. Bring it back. Flip the fader. You know what I'm saying? Cut it back. Cut, cut, cut, cut. Talk me around. You know. I know graffiti. I just hit a train. I know you do. I hit a train the other day. The New York City train. The other day? Yeah, we snuck in the yard. Huh? With spray paint, man. You don't know I'm a graffiti guy. I watch you doing your shit.

29:11No. I'm going to show you the pictures. I hit a train the other day. Me and Bayou. But listen. So graffiti. Some of the best boys came out the Bronx. One thing I try to do is DJ and that sucked. I've never, ever successfully, nowhere. I used to go to Surge House every day. And I just sucked. Like there's nothing. I can't DJ. But you can't write. But you can't graph. You write. You tag. I write. Okay, well then you got two. I got two. You three as a B-boy. You as a B-boy. You as a B-boy. I still get on the floor. You got fluidity. I still got fluidity. I got women. Listen.

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34:54let's tap back to like social media if you think now is the birth of moni love and there's social media do you think your career would have been super amplified more now that there's social media honestly i think any of us any of us from my era or y 'all because i'm the big sister y 'all my little brothers you know what i mean so go back to me go back to your big sister in all of my set. If we had the platform of all of these platforms now, absolutely everything would have just been magnified for sure. You know what I mean? That's a fact. And who do you think that's a female artist that does social media well, uses it now, and you'd be like, man, she know how to play that game.

35:41Oh, we all know that's Cardi. Cardi does, yeah. I mean, that's a no-brainer. have enough for Cardi to utilize. That's a no-brainer. She could wake up first thing in the morning and don't even be any of her outfits yet. And it's a top post. Because there's always a level of relatability in there. You know what I mean? Without even trying. I always said people loved her first and then she made great music and then it's out again. I think that's really poignant. And then she just hit it out the block with that Because I did like her first. Thank you for saying that. I did like her first before anything.

36:24Yeah, I did. And what's really cool for me about Cardi is, regardless of the fact that she's like, she's not my age group, right? So like some people would be like, well, how do you relate to Cardi B at all? For me, it's her mothering. when she wakes up and she has her her whatever gripes she's having that morning about being a mom or the kids doing this or acting up or whatever and oh I got to get this and kids making their little remarks in the background I get it because when I look at it I'm like oh my god and then I'll say to my daughter who's in here right I'll be like uh Shalena look at this you remember when I used to you guys used to say things and embarrass me and then I used to do this or I used to say that to you guys.

37:12It's just, I find all of these relatable moments in her parent world for me. And I had four kids, you know what I'm saying? At her age, I didn't, no, no. Cardi beat me a little bit. I wasn't having to. I spread mine out a little bit more. She moved. But I do have the same amount of kids as well. Cardi might come next week. I'm pregnant again, guys. I think she's the first female that ever intentionally got pregnant in her prime and still worked and went on tour pregnant still popped up intentionally maybe but first no that was me and you can pull up the tape from Arsenio you can pull up the tape from you was pregnant on I was on Showtime at the Apollo talking about Moni in the middle really in the middle Moni in the middle.

38:04Really in the middle. That's a fun fact. Pull the tape up. I'm glad you said that because that's another reason, one of my early reasons why I related to Cardi because when she was pregnant that first time and came out and was like on stage and publicly and everything, I was like, because I understood it. Because I was there. I was in that exact position on stage, front, doing everything on Amstino Hall. The thing they used to do in hip-hop and they probably still do it. That's why I hate these people. The business always got like a stereotype, like a female artist can't have a voice. Oh no, they shamed us.

38:41They shamed us. Especially in my time, they shamed us. Like the record label, I was signed to Chrysalis in England, but I was signed to Warner Brothers for the United States and Canada. And I was pretty much, without them actually saying it, like I was three months pregnant with my daughter that's in here, my oldest one now, right? she's 34 I was three months pregnant with her and on the label reps were like well what are you gonna do and I was like I said I'm three months pregnant what you mean what I'm gonna do well you know what are you gonna and I'm like it means I'm having a baby like what you think it means like they telling you taking abortion you know what I'm saying without saying it trying to say it without saying it you know what I'm saying the record rep at the time and I was just like I was 19 very sexist business I was Because it was that summer around my birthday that I found out, right?

39:35And so she was born right before I turned 21, right? Because I was 20 when I found out I was pregnant. So by the time I turned 21, she was here. I thought back to the time and I'm like, I'm so glad I made that. Like, there's nothing, it would have never went any other way. You know what I'm saying? And my kid, my daughter has asked me that before. She's like, mom, do you think that you would have did it any differently? and maybe you would have not had kids so early. And I was like, no. If it happened all over again, I would have did it the same way all over again. Like, it wasn't a question for me.

40:11And that, again, bringing it back to Cardi, is another reason why she spoke to me. And that's why I took a liking to her. She's probably into her own hands because I'm sure they were telling her, you're a sibling, boo. You're this. You're that. And she was like, no, I'm pregnant and I'm outside. like no because really outside women were having babies but they were hiding it yeah right they was making the label I was on tour I was on tour till I was seven months pregnant I was on the triple threat tour Belle Biv DeVoe Keith Sweat and Johnny Gill wow and I opened up for them till I was seven months pregnant you know the workflow it continues the workflow continues did you ever think you would lead into getting into radio no that was how did that happen That was an accident.

41:00Do y 'all remember Steve Smith? Yes. God rest his soul because he passed away. He passed away. Mm-hmm. Steve Smith actually is the person that created Hot 97 as what it was. The flagship in the first place. Right? He called my manager one day and by that time he had had certain people in place already at the station. It was newly flipped. Angie was there already. Angie was at the station before it flipped to hip-hop format. With the house music. Exactly. She was already there. So, and I think she worked her way up. She's like foundational at that station, right? Flex was there already. And I think they had Ed and Dre on in the morning.

41:40And Steve Smith called my manager one day and was like, oh, do you think you could come in and take a meeting with me and, you know, to discuss maybe Moni Love being on the radio? So my manager, my manager came from England with me. My manager's name is Steve. He's from Liverpool. Right. Which is outside of London. So we went. He didn't tell me what we were going there for. And I sat, spoke to Steve Smith. He was like, what do you think about being on the radio? And I was like, I am on the radio. My music's played on the radio. Right. And he was like, no, being an actual radio personality. I was like, like a disc jockey.

42:11Like, why would I want to do that? And he was like, I think you have a really good personality. I was like, yeah, but I'm on the other side getting interviewed by the disc jockey. I don't see myself as a disc jockey. Right? So he's like, let me teach you. Let me help you get your FCC license. What's an FCC license nowadays, huh? Nobody needs an FCC license to be on the radio now. But back then, you had to have an FCC license. So I trained on air in the unsociable hours so nobody could hear me because there was a lot of mess ups. And as a matter of fact, myself and Miss Jones, we were training at the same time together on the radio at like two o 'clock in the morning, talking about our love lives and how we can't stand these men not realizing the microphone was on.

43:00This is the type of mistakes we were making on air at two o 'clock in the morning as we trained to get our FCC licenses. You know what I'm saying? So bottom line, we got our FCC license. I got mine. And then I was on weekends on Hot 97. Tracy Cloherty that was working underneath. You remember Tracy? Yeah, I remember. She used to put me on all the time whenever Angie went on vacation or whenever Wendy went on vacation. I was the go-to. Like, we need you to work two weeks. Wendy's going on vacation for her birthday or whatever it is. We need you to work. Or Angie's taking off a vacation. We need you to work.

43:37Angie doesn't want anybody else interviewing her guests, but you, you can do it. Angie said she trusts you, blah, blah, blah. So that's how I got my chops in radio, you know? And then I was at Hot 97 for 10 years. I was there for 10 years. And the year that I left and went over to Power 105.1 was when Steve Smith, been left, Hot 97, went away for a little while, came back and then created Power 105.1. Yeah. And yeah. and then I got hired over there. And the year that I, my first year of working there was the year when there was a lot of mess happening between Hot 97 and Power 105.1 that involved Jay-Z, that involved Nas, that involved some noose hanging thing that was supposed to happen.

44:25Turning Power to Switch. The first thing they was doing at Power is they was making the hardest duties. Promos that said, I made... Switch. That was like... That was crazy. You got to understand, Hot 97 in the whole country was known like the first full hip-hop station. And they had so much power and leverage in this market. Think about New York City. Right. Didn't have two stages. It was just Hot 97. And when power opened up, the first thing was like, yo, Lox, come here. Say you made this switch. As an artist, you were scared because Hot 97 was saying, you could go over there. But if you say you made the switch, Don't come back here.

45:08Don't come back. I mean, it was a real, you know. Yo. People were taking it so serious. I wasn't. I wasn't. I was the Power Out of 5-1 still going to Summer Jam. Like, I was chilling. The kid, my daughter that's in here, right? Teen at that time. I'm going to Summer Jam. She wants to go. I got her tickets. We go. We're sitting in the stands watching the show. OK, Styles is on stage doing I get right every day. My daughter's next to me. I get I was like, what?

45:49Every day. Right. Right. And then while we're there doing that, Patty Duke comes up the stairs to where the section I'm sitting. And he's like, you know what's going on at your station right now with the mean twist face. and I'm like, what? And he was like, Nas is on air right now talking smack. I was like, what that got to do with me? I'm at the concert. My daughter's singing and I get high. I'm like, but it was serious. Like the beefing. You know what also happened? You know what also happened was, because I'm a prime example of that. Right? Like prime example. I had like, if I had beef for 50 Cent and somebody I thought I was cool with or I gave an opportunity or I put in the game rocked with them in any way.

46:40I was tight. I was like, yo, we're not rocking no more. We're not, you know, it's over. Like this, you got to pick a side. And I just think all of that, Biggie, Tupac, all that, it was the first time that type of stuff was happening. And we didn't really know how to react. Now when I look at the hip-hop beef, I've seen it 40 times already. So I already know how this thing's going to play out, whether in a good way or in a bad way. You know, back in the day, somebody dissed you, you had to jump out. You didn't have to, but that's how it was. You jump out. Now, you got eight guys dissing 50 cents.

47:20Guess what? He didn't put gas in the car. He said, I ain't even talking about it. I don't care. And it went away. You know, but that's after years of watching rap beefs unfold and what happens and this and this and that. That's after experience. But when that first came out, it was like Hot 97 was the only show in town and Power came out and Nas is up there and what are we going to do? The world is collapsing. Shit is over. But you know what I wanted to ask you? I know it was real. When the label, the label, when you drop a single or drop a project, they send you to Hot 97, they do whatever they do, boom, boom, boom.

47:56Then they pat you on the back. Well, you got your own relationship with Power and go, you take the, what the fuck is this? That's what I wanted to ask you to. You're literally telling me you're only supporting me over at this and I got to go handle. That's the fuck. That's what I wanted to ask you to because at that time, it was different for me because I had transitioned into being on radio. By that time, I was being on air 11, 12 years. So I had transitioned. you guys were still actively putting music out. So how was that for you? I've always been a boss. So like I've always worked my own records.

48:40I've always worked like, you know, it was different for me. Even towards halfway during my career, I had like distribution deals. I didn't have where I got to, I'm signed to the label. So the thing I knew, I knew the real politics. Like I still know the real politics. So the real politics is, yeah, Hot 97 is the grandfather of this shit, and they run it. And we got to be a little bit loyal to them because they did put us in the game. They played Flojo first. So we got to be like that. But they were also telling me, Power 105 is owned by a company that owns 40 other radio stations. So if you try to front on Power 105, they will not play your shit in America.

49:24So now what do you want? You want to keep it real with Hot 97? Meanwhile, you got, let's call it what it is, you got dictators like Ebro on fucking Hot 97. Like, you don't come here. We run the show. He. People like that. I need my water now. That was so. I need my water now. Hold on. Hold on. I need my water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need my water now. People. This is, you just, now I'm getting a hot flash. You just bought some other shit on. It's all because you there now. No, I'm just trying to say that people like that were like trying to control the game, you know, almost like in a muscle way, but without flexing the muscle.

50:11But just like, you know, we won't play your shit. We've got the number one station. We did this, this, that. And he was quick to be like, yo, matter of fact, you seen that interview when the man told Kodak Black? He was the hottest guy in the world. Get out of here if you want. leave. Like he was bigger than Kodak Black. Like they was. I'm not singling out Ebro because there was a lot of that shit there where they felt like, y 'all, we birthed y 'all, we got the number and then y 'all going over there. But what they was up against, what they didn't realize is that that station came with 40 other stations.

50:47So it was like, do you want to be the hottest on High 97, which we all know and loved, or you want to get played in 40 other stations. Now, if you go over here, you say, fuck power, you're done in the country. Yo. It was that type of shit going on. Right. And so you had to find a way to finagle both situations. It was hard. That's what I thought. It was just really, really, really hard. A lot of... And it's not fair because y 'all... Not favors, but you had to do... We just want to make... That's what I'm saying. Y 'all, as an artist, you shouldn't have to worry about that. You shouldn't have to worry about that.

51:24It should just be creating, you know, the art and then let that rock and then bring it to the cities and perform. You shouldn't have to worry about the politics of the radio stations, which none of us own shares in. You know what I'm saying? So that's what, and that is my mindset. What you say? He says, say it slow, huh? Talk slow to them. Talk slow to them. yeah that's like motherfuckers dying over the hood talking about this my block they don't own shit not even the shit they live it you know but that is why bringing it back to me being at the concert when that was happening and that whole thing was happening on air on power with Nas and all of that you know that's why yo I just got a better job but we still family I worked with y 'all for 10 years exactly and my daughter wanted to come to summer jam I knew that shit was a crock of shit when I went to one of them and the other one had a little radio over there playing the other one and the other one had a little radio oh they was listening to whatever yeah they did go to power they got a little radio tuned in to Hot 97 you go over there so Moni tell me a couple of female artists that you respect their contribution to the game you know from day one till now Oh, I love this question.

52:51Okay. Pebbly Poo. Whoa. I love me some Pebbly Poo because when I first came here and people in this country first started hearing me rhyme, a lot of the elders at that time, when I was a baby in the game, told me that I remind them of Pebbly Poo. And so I started listening to her and she instantly was like one of my favorites. Roxanne Shantay put the battery in my back. because she was fearless. She was fearless. She'd take on anyone, anywhere, anytime, doesn't matter. So watching her and listening to her, that gave me the courage that I needed to leave the bathroom and not stop being a toothbrush in the mirror wrapper.

53:35She put the battery in my back. I would say that. Salt-N-Pepa, to me, all of the girls that embrace their bodies in their image today, to me, took a page out of Salt and Pepper's book. Oh, man. Salt and Pepper's. Because they were really, yeah, they were the... We need Salt and Pepper on this show. Oh, that's for sure. Shout out to Salt. They just shut up in the music house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need some. They beyond legendary. Yeah, yeah. And then, of course, my immediate sisters, like, Light. I went to school with Light. What? I went to George Wingate High School in Brooklyn. with MC Ly yes she was a superstar very young too she was a superstar then when I was going to high school with her yes she was a superstar she was already a superstar going to high school yes yes and on Friday nights get special ability to be that young and be able to walk up in Latin quarters and all of that chillish I was so jealous I would hear the story that was her world like she had that she was a kid phenom MC wow Yo, yeah, MC, MC like.

54:47Yeah, yo, but is that around the time Special Lad was killing? Yo, Special Lad was, Special Lad, remember we used to think he had like a fake hand, right? Who used to think Special Lad had a fake hand? That was a rumor they had that in the store. Are you kidding me? Yeah, he always had his hand inside. He had his hand inside in the video for I Got It Made because they filmed it in winter at Grand Army Plaza. That's when they first That was the beginning of the rumors That was the beginning of the cast Still on aisle three Yo I didn't know that, that's crazy Man, Light is just incredible, I like where she's at In life, where her voice She's doing voiceovers now For movies, awards shows Everything, and she's producing And directing movies A lot of stuff, yeah She was that kid Back then, that was just like Like, you still in high school and you tearing up a club on a Friday night.

55:47Like, what? Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, like was, and I didn't tell her that I could rhyme. I was at George Wingate High School for like six months. My mother moved here. I was living at my grandparents' house on East 28th Street between Clarendon and Cotillew in Brooklyn. And I went to high school and I met Light and we were cool. But I did not tell her that I could rhyme because I'm like, she comes to school on a Monday with stories about being up in the same club as Big Daddy Kane, getting on stage after him. What do I have to say? I have nothing. I'm not telling her that I even utter a word, much less.

56:28It wasn't until I went to England and then she came over there doing shows and obviously knew me because we went to high school. And then I told her, I also do this. Wow. Yeah, you know, it was then. And then, you know, we got tight as far as on the artistic level also. So that was pretty cool. But yeah, she was that kid. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the ones that I would honestly say influenced me, put the battery in my back, gave me the gusto, allowed me to feel brave to enter this world. You know, those would definitely be the best.

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1:00:11Oh, your first big show. Yo, my first big show was at the New Music Seminar when I performed Ladies First with Latifa for the first time. It was at some high school in Manhattan somewhere because the New Music Seminar happened every year at the Marriott Marquis Hotel Yeah, from Second Street. Exactly. All the labels had all their top artists or new artists that they wanted to showcase and show off. DJ Battles. DJ Battles. World Supremacy. That makes sense to me. I was going to see Clark Kent had a battle, and we was online, and he had my vinyl from my album. I'm like, you're my man. My album wasn't even out for like four months after.

1:00:50I'm like, how you get the vinyl? He was like, yo, I'm a DJ. We came tight from there. That's him. So way before that, because, you know, you got to remember, I'm old compared to you youngins, right? I did perform at the New Music Seminar and that's when Latifah performed because Tommy Boy was putting her as one of their new artists at the time to perform in a showcase, a Tommy Boy showcase. So I was there, I performed, and I never will forget that Guru ran up to me at the end of the performance. It was the first time I ever performed Ladies First. I hadn't heard Ladies First for six months after it was recorded until the day I had to perform it on stage with Latifah at that show.

1:01:33Shaquem shoved me in the bathroom with a walkman. With a walkman. With a walkman. and said, just listen to it over and over and over. We go on in 10 minutes. What? And that's what I did, and I was scared, and I didn't want to come out the bathroom. Special Ed was there knocking me, yo, Moni, you gotta come out. You gotta come out. And I'm like, I'm going to crap myself. I'm so scared. Got up, went into autopilot, performed it, tore it down, Latifah tore it down. When she did Ladies First and brought me out, tore it down, right? And Guru ran up. Ran up to me. And said what? Yo, I didn't know you could rhyme like that.

1:02:19And that was like so special to me that Guru did that. That's actually why on my EP that's out now, I redid skills. But Emil did the hook. Mmm, right? Yeah. Boy, you got out of retirement. Emil did the hook on that. What's the name of the latest project? It's called Love Notes. Yeah, Love Notes. Love Notes, everybody out there. Love Notes. But that's a tribute to Guru. Fire. And that's the only reason why Emile did it, is for hip-hop, because it was a tribute to Guru. That's the only reason why she did it, because she flat out was, I'm not messing with this no more, Mo. I'm so far removed from any of this.

1:03:04I'm not. And so she was like, the only reason why I'm doing this, Mo, is for you. and for guru, and for hip-hop. And that's the only reason why she got on that hook. I respect that. Shout out. Yep. He's on T's thing, my brother. I love him. Yeah, man. That was a tribute to him. You know, shout out to E-Love. Hello, Cool J the camp. They lost a brother. Yeah, I got to do it. That was special. In every video. like we knew this is E you know what I'm saying so rest in peace to E you know that's crazy because the way you just did that that's how I always looked at Eric Beach I thought he was the originator I thought he was the originator he might be the originator of Ice Grill though he was the originator of Ice Grill he was one of the originators of Fly they had all the jewelry on he was the first one with like I don't know.

1:04:08I'm just saying, because sometimes when I say, like, historical facts, Melly Mella come in the DM, somebody come and be like, somebody come for you. Because like you said, Joe's our little brother. Everybody feels like that. So if I say something and the timeline ain't accurate or something like that, they'll hit me. Which reminds me, since you say this. I'm fried, Moniz. Don't debate me on the timeline. He go right to the fire with it. I get it wrong all the time. No, but listen, let me just give everybody the quick synopsis, right? So I love this show, right? So I watched the show. And I saw Joe say something one day when he was like, you know, when Daylight was on here.

1:04:51And I was like, and Joe was like, you know, I wish she would have came out with something on her own. And I was like, I was at a radio station event for the station because I'm on Kiss 104.1 in Atlanta from 3 to 7 on weekdays every day, right? So I was actually at an event for the station when I saw the clip. So I hit Paz. But wait, Paz looks so confused in the clip, right? Because it's like he's thinking about it, but it's like. So then I was like, I filmed myself saying, Joe, come on, Joe. I was like, come on, Joe. Let me explain something to you. The part you're missing is that I called you phenomenal, super with.

1:05:30No, I didn't miss none of that. Oh, no, you still. No, I didn't miss none of that. I didn't miss none of that. I was just like, I'm going to get him in his ribs. I was like, I'm going to get Joey in his ribs. I got that message from you. I was confused. No, because... I'm going to get the thermals and 145th blue jeans. And I'm like, I said, I worship only love. No, I get it. Let me make it make sense for your viewers, right? Why don't you tell them when you first moved to Miami? I am going to. Let me make it make sense. And that is how far Joe goes back with me, right? Let me make it make sense to your viewers.

1:06:07So I filmed myself after I saw that clip and I was like, come on, Joe, we going to help you out. I had two albums out, Joe. I'm going to help you out. We going to help you out. Right? Like that. Now, to the average person that doesn't know our history, that doesn't know our connection, and it's fair. I don't expect everybody to know, right? That's fair. But the one thing that I do not like about the viral explosion and social media platforms is that it has given way to a false sense of entitlement. So people get on and their thumbs become gangsterized. Right. And they start to type all this craziness.

1:06:54Right. Now, granted, you don't know how far this man and I go back. You don't know this man is like a little brother to me. You don't know that my ex-road manager that passed away and created so much avenues for several artists in hip-hop culture, period, right, was my road manager. Put this young man on the map. So he's special to me. You don't know all of that, right? See, your little gangster thumbs get on Instagram and start to say all kinds of wild stuff. Gangster thumbs. Right? Say all kinds of wild stuff to me about how I'm speaking to Joey. You don't get to tell me how I speak to Joey because that's my little brother.

1:07:37And if you have a little brother in your household that may have skipped something, missed something in your opinion, and you want to get him in his ribs, you can do that. Joey and his family looked out for me and my family when we first moved to Miami. I had no radio job. I left Philly. I was doing radio in Philly. I left Philly. I went to Miami with my kids. I left a bad relationship in Philly, picked up my kids, went to Miami with nothing but my kids and whatever we could have, right? No radio job, no shows, no nothing happening, right? Joey and Lorena picked me and my kids up, took us out to his house.

1:08:17You were in plantation at the time. Took us out to his mansion, fed us, took care of us, you know, was like, what do you need? They put together a care package for us because we're newly in Miami, right? With nothing, okay? There were ups, there were downs in this business. It was a down, right? Yeah. Give us a care package. Pots, pans, towels, necessities, everything that you need in a brand new apartment when you start now, right? And that's when I first got to Miami. This is within the first week, right? looked out for us. You know what I'm saying? But again, I don't expect anybody to notice off the back.

1:09:02But the point to what I'm saying is relax on social media. Okay? No, seriously. Yeah, relax. Because the people... You know what he said? I'm going to stop attacking the guys that do that. He said, last time he told me, yo, I need you to stop, Joe. Stop attacking these guys. I'm like... He's like, yo, Joe, I need you to stop. so I'm stopping I'm letting Moni fuck you don't stop go Moni ah yes yes listen and then and then I wound up taking the post down because people were saying wild stuff towards me and people were saying wild stuff towards you and I was like that wasn't my intent with my post and what I told Moni immediately was like Moni we fucking love you we worship you you know I love you don't take this no wrong way sometimes I say some shit that gets misconstrued and I'm crazy.

1:09:58And people know that shit. It's the truth. I'm foul sometimes. He argued with me. He was like, yo, Moni, I'm like, yo, look, I can't even with this guy right here. But what I'm saying is the way, you know, your career was laid out, right? It's that energy, right? It's the energy. And now it's actually the same thing. like so say French Montana right French Montana I got his demo played on nobody they had beef with the powers that be nobody was playing their shit and they was bubbling in the street I took his shit and was like yo he from the Bronx you know you playing this I don't want to say it like that but you know I had to do that soon as they played it six months later he was a superstar and had pop that But the energy was he was already bubbling in the streets, giving him a song.

1:10:58That's that. What's that joint? Shorty got potential. And then six months later, he had a song with Drake and Rick Ross, and he's a superstar. But it's an energy. So Fat Joe got Flo Joe, and then LL Cool J puts me on I Shot Ya. So you hear it coming. This happens with every artist. It's an energy. And I've always felt like your energy from being on Buddy and Ladies First and all that, maybe if now, you'd have been even bigger than you were. That's what I was trying to allude to. You know, that's what I was trying to get out. Like saying, like, you know, Moni Love to me, of course we know you're legendary.

1:11:47Of course we know you got classic albums. Of course we know. but um you know he clarified you see all you gotta do is give him some time he clarified how long did it how long was it six months I know it wasn't oh four months yeah you know first thing he did he walked in yeah you know you gotta apologize it's like apologize no what did I do for the viewers this is all stuff we know they don't they don't know yeah and the thing they know off comments like she just said. You know what? You know, there's a resurgence in originators. Like this year, we had Daylight. We had Ghost. You ain't living that.

1:12:30Salt. Nas. Salt drop a joint. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You have a project. And for a long, Kwame? Yeah, he got a joint out. Different kids. He got a joint out. I used to love Kwame, man. And somebody I wanted to say earlier, but I didn't want to cut you off because, you know, that's my new rules around here. They don't let me cut people off. Yeah, that's a new one. Okay. Right? Even though I try to tell them the DNA is... It's working. Shout out to Chubb Rock. He's somebody I studied. He's somebody I studied. Like you said, you used to play with that king. We are waiting for an evergreen episode.

1:13:11Evergreen episode? Chubb was the first person that was going to sign the lot. That's crazy. Amazing. Yeah. Chub what? Yeah, we was supposed to, we was going to sign with Chub. Chub was up for, Chub first. I remember making my first album. Wait a minute. You can't just say that and then be like, ew. No, you got to tell us. I got to bring Lou Chub here. That's insane. I don't really remember everything in Utah. Yeah, but Chub, you got to bring Chub up here, then. Yeah, okay. Okay, Dave. make that happen. It represents all of us. Yeah. You know, they gave me the key to the city and it was a big day for me.

1:13:54Like, right. They gave me the key to the city. This wasn't my city. What? They gave me mad keys. None of them is my city. They gave me Jersey City, East Orange, mad shit. I see that key made DMX. They gave DMX. Yeah, they gave it to A or some shit, right? We got days All of that They ain't gave me I think They might have gave me P P might got a key My day Wyoming gave me shit That's crazy Wyoming gave me Jersey City New building in Wyoming Oh my god State of the art Crazy out of this world Can't fit your sneakers in me You checked it out Sneaker Your sneakers You ain't got new weather to you The outside looks marvelous The inside It's like that building You lived in in Jersey That the fucking apartment it was this little, but it was the Flyers' building.

1:14:48Oh, my God. You never let me say my story. I'm sorry. So while I got the key to the city, the whole Bronx is out there crazy. And Orchard Beach, I turn around, and Chubb Rock just happens to be standing on stage. I stopped the whole shit. And I told him how much he influenced me in front of everybody. You know, the Bronx was out there so deep. I was like, you're a child. because a lot of time as men, right, in this type of business, we don't really sit people down and tell them how much they influenced us or how much, you know, we'll say what's up. We'll be cordial. I hear that. But we don't grab them and be like, yo, look, when I did that Represent album, my first album, I was listening to Chubb Rock.

1:15:35To Chubb Rock's tape, I kept playing that every day before I wrote the next song. I just, his flow just...

1:15:49Well,

1:15:53the biggest line on that was, remember Yusuf Hawkins. Yeah, we were just talking about him today, too. And I seen Sean Bell's wife. She has a movie. There's a movie out. Absolutely. Shout out to Manny. Yep. Shout out to Manny. So I just seen him at Chaps. That's the end of the movie. We gotta see it. Nicole Bell. Nicole Bell. Yeah, it's very, yes. If y 'all don't know who Sean is, this kid got killed a day before his wedding in New York City back in the day. So his wife put out a movie. But you know what's crazy is they actually, because, you know, now I'm mature or whatever, whatever. But back in the days, I was the most harassed person from the police in the universe.

1:16:35And I'd quite ask with it. I don't understand killing yourself or being, but I got bullied more than anybody in the world. Like I got beat up by the cops more than you could ever think in your life. So they invite me one day to a, what was it? A Black Lives Matter police summit. And I come up in there and, you know, in great tradition, if you think in new music seminar, what would Chuck D say? What, you know, I was in the crowd watching all this. so when they put me on the panel and it was like yeah you know this this that they think I'm Fat Joe the rapper and I said remember Yusuf Hawkins when you walk in.

1:17:13Oh wow. That was the first line I said and they knew oh he came on bullshit. Oh. They knew the police knew oh he came on bullshit. I'm telling the man Luima. Sean Bell is the wrong guy to bring up Baez. They were like oh no he know too much like let's get him off the stage. But you know a line like that the consciousness in music. KRS did that for me too. I remember hopping the train. We talking about the Walkman. And I'm thinking it's just going to be a gangster album. I'll put in Criminal Mind. He's like, airplanes flying, overseas people dying, politicians lying. I'm trying and I'm sitting there like, yo, what the fuck does he talk about?

1:17:53It opened us up to consciousness. Yo, KRS, one used to shut his show down and start straight up talking like Malcolm X to somebody. Seriously. Does anybody remember Car Wash? The movie? No, the club car wash. Oh, God. No, I don't know that. Okay, again, I'm showing my age, which I have no problem doing, right? Chris used to shut the show down halfway through and start talking and dropping all that knowledge not inside form. Oh, nobody left. Nobody left. And then he got, you know who else did that? Nas. Nas with that. Egypt had the kings and they cut off their nose. Right. I know, I can't. Yo, he was dropping jewels on that.

1:18:41Yeah, yeah. You know, and that's, we missing that. Yeah. We missing that in hip hop today. People dropping them type of jewels where the next generation could feel proud and know where they came from because we don't know where we came from. I was in the car with Rich the Barber and I was like, yo, you know they chopped off the noses in the statues in Egypt because they had black noses. Nigga noses. Who goes there? Tell us. But they chopped their nose off for the European or something. So, but this was deep. You know what I'm saying? This was deep. And true. Did anybody ever find their nose? Irish people want something for the nose.

1:19:25you know that's somebody found their notes it's the first story that the people said I didn't cap I never knew Iron Sheik got arrested did somebody just say nobody knows nobody know no I told the story last time Iron Sheik we bumped into Iron Sheik the wrestler and he was from Iran so he comes by with some Mexican dudes they drinking liquor he asked for some perhaps some liquor they gave him liquor they show him smoking weed. 30 minutes later, he come by. Perhaps some weed? He came back 30 minutes later, he said, perhaps something for the nose? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yo, don't give the Iron Sheik something for the nose.

1:20:09Yo, yo. I want that thing where it's so viral. I watched all the comments. First of all, I didn't know he had a nickname. His nickname is Sheiky Baby. So in the comments, everybody who knew him off wrestling was saying, yo, that's Shiggy, baby. He used to get arrested every week for cocaine. Yo, he used to this and that. They were like, Joe did not cap? Yo. On this. That's crazy. Joe and Jada, baby. Let's go. Legendary. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for Moni. Love.

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