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30:23Yo, Kiss, how do you make a party? Do you put yourself there? I would like to think so. So you're like at the party. So you're... You try to put yourself in a party. That's how I do. I wouldn't try to make a party song with everything black and the lights off. Man, I ain't saying that. I'm saying, do you actually... Because the way I write a party song is... I visualize myself in the party. How about going to a party? And write it at the party? No. Just going in, get the energy. you didn't. That's how you would do it. I think make it rain, somebody's going to be in the strip. I went through that whole process of you got to be there.

31:11That was dangerous for me. What? Doing that. Certain songs carry certain energy. You know what I'm saying? When I was recording songs like Let's Ride and stuff like that, it was a number one record. Songs like Let's Ride, it was like strip club anthem. And at that time, you know what I'm saying? I was, that was BC Montel, but kind of before Christ. Before Christ. Yeah. Because you was like a sex symbol. You came out sex symbol. And you making records. What's the matter? We talking. I'm not even talking about you, man. Why you can't be holding me. So BC Montel knew the Lord, but wasn't walking like in a pastoral space.

31:54And so in dark spaces or whatever, I felt like in order for me to make a dope strip club song, I needed to put myself in that position or whatever. And so in doing that, I was compromising myself for the sake of the music, you know, to be successful. I'm not saying that. Like if you're going to make a bank robbery story, don't go rob a bank and then try to make the... That's what the new guys do. They go kill you and then make the song. and then they go. It's a real problem with the youth where they almost force them to live out the records. Real recognize real, right? So, so I think part of the challenge is if you find somebody to be a fraud in something, right?

32:44Dude talking about this, that or the other and you're like, yo, who, this guy is a, you know, you went to prep school, he's, who is this guy? You know, okay, People catch fire for that, for not being authentic. So that's where you got the, I think, the younger generation. I think in our day, I don't care. Maybe I'm older, but I look at it all as entertainment. So at the end of the day, I don't care if you went to college. I don't care if you was a gangster or this. Maybe when I was younger. I'd be like, yo, this guy ain't been shot before. He ain't went to jail. Maybe. But now, it's just all entertainment.

33:20So I don't care. It's entertainment now, Joe. Yeah, it's entertainment. Like one of my favorite rappers is Kanye West. I don't think he ever robbed a bodega in his life. Yeah. You know, but the guy, he done said the wildest things in the world. I love him though. You know, it's all entertainment. Yeah. The thing is that the kids need to understand is that when we watch these gangster movies, Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, all these movies, they do these all-time legendary scarface and golf and then they go home with their family and eat Sunday dinner and they don't have to be out there shooting nobody or selling gigs and nothing like that.

34:02Yeah. It's entertainment. They tell stories. Yeah, stories. I think the best storytellers are the ones who are closest, you know what I'm saying, to the concept. Yeah, right? And so like for me, okay, so I represent represented South Central LA. And I was signed to Def Jam as Russell Simmons' rap singer. That's how I was an R &B singer to start. I was his rap singer. You were a rap singer. I was documenting street life in Los Angeles. So I was not a crip. I was not a blood. But I was affiliated close enough to it to where, okay, I don't know, you know, a lot about the Roland 60s, but I'm close enough to him or whatever to know the two-finger handshake or this.

34:47Like, I was just close enough so that when I'm saying stuff in my song, you know, okay, this is a guy who's not just talking about LA from outside of it. He knows what the sound of helicopters are like. You know, you watch TV sitting on the floor in the living room because of the potential drive-bys on port. Like, close enough to it that I ain't never had to shoot them. I ain't never had to rob nobody, but I still can be a witness to the stuff that I saw to be able to tell accurate stories. Those are the best poets. But that somehow matures into, well, I'm going to just kind of, I can't just see it.

35:22Now I have to have kind of been a part of it. And I hate that, but I think that that's what the... It's incorrect. It's incorrect. I agree. I believe in if you got something to say, you bring it. And there's everything. We have Rhapsody City here. It's the most positive sister in the world. We appreciate her music. We appreciate everybody's music, everything they bring to the game. and it is what it is whatever your upgrade I hope you didn't have to grow up in the projects with free cheese and all that I hope you didn't I did but I hope you didn't we don't want our kids to have none of that we don't want our kids recipes I'm going to say his name my brother Full Flex man he had to be one of the craziest guys I ever knew in my life This guy right here, his temper was zero to 100, too quick.

36:21And man, he raised his kids. He used to tell me, I want my kids to be pussy. I want them to be the nicest kids in the world. I want them to be A students. I've been looking at him and this guy was still jumping out the van like, oh! But with his family and his kids, he wanted that as peaceful as possible because, you know, why would we want our kids to live like that? So I don't think they should be scrutinized if you're a great artist because you didn't grow up robbing a liquor store. In Vietnam. You're crazy, man. But listen, let me ask you something, man. Shout out my brother. He's here the other night.

37:00He threw the event for the 40 years of 40th and Deez. Let me tell you something. This was one of the best events I ever went to in my life. And then you popped out. I said, yo, Montel, you had the black silk. Y 'all, what's up? And he dances, I would do it. I'm like, oh, oh, oh. I mean, yo, man, I had the best time. Force MDs, man. 40 years. You forget, like I'm old enough, but you forget everything they brought to the game from day one, from Force MCs to Force MDs. Crazy. And while they're up there, tears, tears. and in my life around. Then they got the rap joint that was so crazy. I haven't heard that since I was maybe a teenager.

37:50And when they did it, I was like... Did they get you from a scratch? Yeah, yes. That's Sonic come out. And they start doing that Go Brooklyn. Heavy Brooklyn. That's crazy. Don't front like... Daddy O's. You from the Bronx, Harlem, anywhere else, y 'all. Thank you. Y 'all just salute. They coming up in there. Go Brooklyn. Go Brooklyn. Yeah. And when I was growing up, I know they positive brothers, but I don't know if they knew the rockest stuff they started with them records with that go Brooklyn's in the house and all that shit. I'm like, yo, that was an amazing. And Melissa Morgan. Yeah. I had never seen her live.

38:30She sound like the record still. Ain't that. For some D's too. She's the best. Body that though. Like body, body, body. I was like, yo, this had the best time in the world. and we gotta appreciate all the legends for what they brought to the game and what they do and what they did in the game and how much happiness because basically at the end of the day we supply service and a question was brought up to me the other day at a podcast actually yesterday and they were saying what's the difference and then well Fat Joe as not just a hip hop historian but as a traveler of the game or whatever, the biggest thing I came up, the answer I came up to is people have to like you.

39:23And there's a reason why some people are successful. Sure, they're talented, but people have to like you. Not many people I've met, most beautiful woman, handsomest guy, six-packed up, best rappers in the world and for some reason their careers never went. And the girls the same thing and sometimes I'll go to like a lounge and some random woman will come out and start killing it. Like fucking Aretha Franklin you wonder yo what happened? Why she ain't have a career? She's fucking special. And it's just unfortunately maybe it ain't that's what they're here for because I was told it was a formula.

40:09I don't know if it's accurate. Nah. I was told it was a formula. At least the formula that was inbred in me at that time period was if you want to be successful, guys have to want to be like you and girls have to want to be with you. So from the standpoint to be a male artist, successful, guys got to want to hang with you. Women have to want to be with you. Same thing for women artists. Guys got to want to be with you. Girls got to want to hang with you. If you have both of those things. So if you look at an artist who may be super, super dope as a guy, but maybe you don't have the right look or the right this or the right that, it's like you can reach a certain amount of success.

40:56I don't know that to be true. I see some ugly guy stuck in the face. Yeah, for sure. Pop off. They stuck in they face. You know what stuck in your face is? it been a minute since I brought brought out the stuck in the face catalog hey motherfucker stuck in his face he ugly as shit he can't go nowhere stuck there's nothing we can do about it stuck he's stuck in his face let me tell you something one day I was on tour I never heard that you never heard it that's a Fat Joe special let me tell you something one day I'm far away I don't know where I might have been Saudi Arabia I'm far.

41:37Beirut. I'm somewhere far. And I'm like, you know when you're traveling, you're delirious. I'm like in the airport. I look up and I look at this guy and say, oh, my God. He's stuck in the face. This guy is stuck in the face. I've seen guys like that be successful in the music business and women. So I don't, I understand the theory. I always believed that my whole life. But at the end of the day, there got to be something in your soul, in your DNA that attracts people to like you. Because I've met so many talented people. So the ugliest people that's successful, that's like real success. It is.

42:26It is. It is. It is. It's as real. It's a hard one. It's a hard pill to swallow, bro. That trim fire. That sky rizzy. Yo, that sky rizzy there. Because you go, you say, this already got me in trouble in my house. This thing I'm about to say, it's going to double up. I ain't going to do it again. Because the people, man. I don't know if you know, they want to know, man. All right. Yo, we got fans that want to know. And so I go, right, to a podcast. And I recently seen one of their birthdays. And the guy, you know, and everybody showed their girlfriends. And boy, did they have beautiful wives and girlfriends.

43:17So I tell them, yo, doesn't mean no disrespect whatsoever, but you guys, man, you know, you guys got beautiful wives, man. This, this, that. And then the guy was like, all right, he gets paid this, he gets paid that, he gets paid this, he gets paid that. He got that. makes sense now. Why you have such elite women under your arms? You guys are rich like that. Of course this makes sense right over here. You guys, that's why you got them. They said it makes you more hassle. They've said that. It makes you more... They've said that. Yo, Montel. You talking to the... Yo, you don't want me to... I used to sit next to guys.

43:55You ever seen them guys that look like they put the cigarettes out of their face? The holes in the face. You know what I'm talking about? They look like they just they were tortured by cigarettes. You ever seen these guys? Ashtray face. I used to see ashtray face with a bottle on my waist and the most beautiful chick in the world. And I used to sit there. Yeah, I was a fat guy, but I had green eyes. I thought I was handsome. What is this guy doing? The waiter comes over and says, he had to put well. This guy, he made too much money. It all makes sense. It all makes sense. So yes, it's rare success.

44:41It's all the way across the board. It's rare success. But I agree with you. But with me, the smartest thing I can say is they got to like you. And so you know that's the way that thing works. We're entering Prostate Awareness Month, September. What you got going on? You got any seminars? Are you doing any? I'm just on the front line for prostate cancer awareness. Early detection, it helps save lives. I know that one in every eight men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer. I know one in every six men will look like us. And men that look like us are twice as likely to die from prostate cancer if not caught.

45:33I don't know to Maria Davis. I pulled the bus up in my hood and got free testing for people that look like us. Yeah, man. I appreciate that. Your life matters, bro. And I think some guys, you know, they don't trust the medical profession. Some guys, they just don't want to know. No, it killed me. It was mad dudes that stood right there and didn't do it. It was free. Yeah. Yeah, man. People were scared of the truth. when it comes to cancer. You're going to be even scared of it. You ever took an AIDS text back in the days? I take one off.

46:10I like to think I ain't got no AIDS. I mean, I took it one time. Holy shit. Wow. Holy kilometers. Wow. The high blood pressure was on 10 ,000. I'm like, yo, remember Anita the Beast from back in the day? You're like, yo, surely there's a trace of it in the system. Surely you got that shit. He said, remember Anita the Beast. Oh, my God. Anita the Beast is a sick one. Anita the Beast. This guy's crazy. Nah, that's shit real, man. You got to test yourself. You got to do everything you want to. I just feel like we're never healthy enough, right? With prostate cancer, there's been a taboo. You know what I'm saying?

47:08A lot of guys, it is the most treatable form of cancer. Prostate cancer. 99 % treatable when caught early. And then the taboo in different communities because for a period of time, it was an anal check, a rectal check that, you know, I'm not calling anybody. Okay, now it is a blood test. Now it is a, you don't have to go up in you no more. They don't have to go in you no more. No more. That's archaic. You just want it that way. They don't do that no more.

47:46Can I explain? Can I explain? Can I explain? blood test. If they got a blood test, this is how we do it. If they got a blood test, you volunteer for a mud test. That's a flag.

48:06That's a flag. If you tell her you can draw blood, you tell her the man. I want the hot dog. It's a blood test. Yeah, take the blood test. Take the blood test. The Bumba Clot blood test. Take the Bumba Clot blood test. Bumba Clot blood test. Take the blood test. Y 'all need no money waters. No money waters. No money waters, you Bumba Clot. Y 'all, let me tell you. It's a blood test, guys. It's a blood test. Now, when you go for your normal physicals, you just have to tell them, I want to be tested for PSA. PSA is prostate-specific antigen test. if you go to a normal physical and get your normal check, they will not give it to you unless you ask for it.

48:56I'm going to ask my doctor next time. I just took blood last week. You got to ask for it. If they took your blood last week, they will not take a PSA unless you ask for it. Listen, I have the best doctor in the world, Dr. Gene Nathman. He's also a liar. He has to be. He's the greatest, smartest doctor saved my life, but he lies to me. Look at me. I look good. I'm 238. I don't even eat a car about this. He said, Joe, we got to work on this diet. We got to this. I said, no, man, Doc, you bullshitting me. You got to stop. But he be like, he won't amp it up. I'm 238. I was 500 pounds. I can't believe it.

49:37I go up and down the old Doc. What are you talking about? Need to tweak some things, Joe. I'm like, damn, the Doc is crazy, bro. I feel like it's nowhere. I walk in there like I'm in Miami on vacation. Joe's time. I'm on vacation. Yeah. Joe's time. Be there tomorrow, Doc. I'm fast. Don't worry. Like, surely I have the best numbers in the universe. Yeah. You know, when you rush, you're talking about the guys scared. They scared because they think they unhealthy. Yeah. Me, I run because I know I'm doing the right thing. That's right. Then he gives me my results back. Joe, we got to take more vitamins to add charcoal to the table.

50:20I'm like, your God, you got it. Like, what do you want to be? A human medicine? Human medicine. You know, you're taking so much medicine. I don't fucking... You take vitamins every day? You know how many of them shits is this big every day? Now we're down. Let's take what you need. I'm just taking what he give me. you give me a lot of shit, man. I mean, thank God I'm healthy, you know? Your life matters, man. Your legacy matters. You know what I'm saying? Dope wife, kids, all of that. Little Joe, like, your life matters. So you got to want to know. You know what I'm saying? What's going on? I got kids.

51:01You got to want to be. You know? I got five grand. You don't want to know. You don't want to be. You know? Yeah. And you work for the whole entire family, grandkids, everything. I mean, you know, what I'm leaning to is this guy works hard. He works like us. I see him in the world all the time working hard and nonstop. Right? And then we see somebody like a living legend like Gladys Knight was on stage, 80-something years old. And it looked like she got some cognitive, like she forgot she was on stage. And when she's 82, what happened, Kiss? I'm trying to figure out how you put him with Gladys.

51:46No, no, because what I'm saying is this man performs like you perform, and I perform, and we perform like we got to keep paying these bills. Yeah. That's how I perform. We do. Yeah, but - I don't know where he's going. When does it stop? Like, Gladys Knight is 82, still performing, and they're saying she's starting to forget stuff on stage. Is that a necessity? Yeah, you think Gladys Knight is broke? Tracy? I don't think that. Right? He's like the perform. It was a discussion. When I brought it up, somebody said, you know, back in the days, they used to rob the artist this. I said, come on, Gladys Knight.

52:24Like, so... I believe she caught all of... Are we going to be performing at 82 and all that? No. We're not, right? No, we're not going to. Not 82. 82 is a bit... We've gone too far. We got to be wise, bro. 82 was crazy. We gotta be wise. Gladys Knight is performing at 82. Only one Gladys Knight. Did you ever hear Gladys Day?

52:53It's only one, man. She might be the standard thing to say don't perform at 82. You can't do lean back at 82, but people are gonna fall down and break a head. They're gonna back to her. They're already gonna be leaned to the back. I already tell them. I'm transparent. Sometimes I'm like, you seen that crowd that performed that other thing? Crazy. About 100 ,000 and all that. That was Romania? That's that joke. Sold out, that joke. That was Romania? Be clear about that. Romania, 100 ,000 something like that. Man, I'm leaning medium. I don't lean back. You remember I used to lean back? Now I'm like, lean medium.

53:39Need a little massage as soon as I get back. That shit is not life on the road. That man Rich came back with a transfusion or something. Like he went to the chiropractor so fast, like sitting in that chair for 14 hours. How do you do that at 80 something years old? I don't know, guys. I keep saying that. For one, think the most hard times change. The finances change. if she was getting Romanian money at that age, she definitely wouldn't probably be her. But she's probably still just doing it out of passion. I don't know, man. I don't think she needs to do it. I don't know. I don't know. I think that there are certain artists that get to a space of where their royalties, their finances, like they're good and they can perform because they want to as opposed to because they have to or they need to.

54:33And that's the space if you're doing wise with your money, your resource, your investment, your trust, all those different things that you want to be at a space that, yo, you want to go to Romaine, you want to go to a school. You can watch Steve Harvey on TV. I don't know TV. I don't get to watch Jeopardy and Steve Harvey. I don't know what's coming on Monday night, General Hospital or nothing like that. I ain't got no life like that. I want to know. Right? What's up? There's some people, you people, admire us, but you don't know we jealousy you. You get to watch the 5 o 'clock news. You get to see your...

55:14Bro, they there with their kids. They eating dinner with their kids. You can watch the 5 o 'clock news on your phone. I ain't got... Yeah, okay. You can watch everything on your phone. On your phone? Yeah, that's what the world switched to. How about... I don't know how to do shit on my phone. How about that? I call a man. I couldn't turn on no TV. I couldn't turn on none of the apps in my TV. I called my man Josh in Jersey. He sent his man over. They was like, Joe, the button. Really? No, upstairs, this shit really not working. Yo, I take a motion. Upstairs, this shit really not working. Don't tell me.

55:51It's like, come to my room. The other night, I just, Joe, this button right here, you know, all the apps just, surely the movie's there. I'm the dumbest shit. I feel so stupid. I almost got so mad at him, I didn't want to give him a tip on the way out. I would be like, fuck at him with your smart ass. Yo, this shit. Aw, man. Hit the button, Joe. Yo! It's so... Woo! Woo! You feel so dumb when they come over, Joe, what's the problem? Everything's okay. Yeah, you know this shit. No Netflix, son. I gotta watch Joe and Jada. No Netflix. He's like, right here. Huh? Why you do that? He's like, that's the button.

56:45That's the button. Man, I'm trying to adapt to the times. Montel, I'm going to give you a prophecy. You got the new children's book, man. Let's hear about the book. I'm going to give you a prophecy. Okay? I'm going to give you a prophecy. And your wife is here so she knows I'm not bullshit. All right. I think you're going to be huge. You start a podcast about religion and your fight and your struggle. And it's going to be the biggest. I think that's where you need to go with it. And this is how we don't perform at 82 years old. You know what I'm saying? And I think you got something to say. there's something about you that's always so peaceful every time I see you.

57:30People need that. You know who's my favorite pastor? You're all going to laugh. Joe Lowstead. They all laugh at me when I say that. Yo, it ain't T.J. It ain't this. Yo, the guy makes me feel nice. I watch him. Joe, if you missed the parking spot, it wasn't for you. Go to the next parking spot. He's like, yeah, yeah, sure. These guys, if they did this to you, Joe, this. I'm like, man, this guy. a thing of beauty, this guy Joe Lowstick. Why? Because he's peaceful like you. You're peaceful. I think you can do a peaceful thing where you make people feel good. People are tired of all that. They want to feel good.

58:12Make them feel good. He's going to do it. Why you can't do it? I said a prophecy. I said a prophecy. This is the first time you heard me talk like that. It could be prophetic or pathetic. The whole time. It could be prophetic. prosthetic. You're talking about my legs. Now I say prophetic or pathetic. Pathetic. Or prosthetic. You know my legs. That's the rapper in you. I got that. I got the weaver wobble to Jerry Lewis. You know what I mean? But they work. They work. But yeah, I think you need to do that. And you know, you're going to be big on that. Want to help executive produce that? I'm going to do it this whole time.

58:53I've been looking at you. I've been thinking dollar signs. A Lord with the Lord. Along with the Lord, I've been thinking dollar signs this whole time. Don't mind me. Don't mind me. I'm thinking the whole time. I said, oh my God, this guy here, we got to do something. This guy, he got that Joel Osteen in him. Yeah.

59:16Joel Osteen is crazy. I've seen him. Joel Osteen is the best. I didn't say nothing about Joe Olsteen. I got that. Last time I said that, you killed me. You was like, you named like 10 passes. You don't watch Michael Joe grind. You know what? I said, listen, the man is peaceful. I watch him. He makes me feel peaceful. He sits down. He might have stopped me from getting 20 jail cases. God cut me off in the car parking. I'll be like, Joe Olsteen. The Lord said it wasn't for me. I go around the car and put Joe Osteen on his couch. That's going to be a hard one. We got to go heavy up on the pass. You know, I got to connect to get him.

1:00:01You know, I met Joel Osteen before. Who? Joel Osteen. Who? Joel Osteen. Him and his wife. We know all about him. His father was the past. I'm a big Joel Osteen. Get him up here. what makes you think I can get Joel Osteen up here you back on your bullshit I get him you can get him can you please get him I would love for Joel to come on the show no, Joel's my guy like I'm telling you then why you can't get him

1:00:38listen, we go over this thing y 'all, we got a new podcast y 'all, let's get some podcasts I'm like, yeah, fabulous Jim Joe, just he's like Beyonce. Gangnam Up Style. Oh, the Dalai Lama. The Gangnam Up Style. Cool Jew, Pajami MC. I was like, you're my man. Who you think you get me? What's wrong with you? You think I can get your little thing? It sounds like he's your man. No. Sounds like he's your guy. I'm just a fan, bro. I'm just a fan. oh, but let's work on it, Montel. We got to get Joe Lowestead. That would be legendary. I mean, and guys, if y 'all don't know Joe Lowestead, he's coming with a suit.

1:01:26One million per se, he's coming with a suit. He's going to come with a suit. Me? No, I ain't coming with a suit. I can't be judged. God don't judge nobody. You walk in there and you come how you come and you bring what you bring to the table. I think everybody, we don't want to get into that. I think everybody has their relationship and their position with God. Obviously, if there's a holy wall of mine, God appears, I'm on the front line with a bazooka. Because I go. He know I go. So he's going to be like, yo, all my shooters, come on out if you love the Lord. And I'm on the front line, brother.

1:02:03I'm on that front line. Like, he's a different, everybody got a different position with the Lord, man. Yeah.

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1:06:29to choose this book, man. We're going to bring on Montel's wife, Kristen. They wrote a book together. They wrote a book. Give it up. Give it up, everybody. Come on now. The man. Come here. The man. Come here. Yo, Montel. Yo, this woman held you down, man. Yeah, man. Man, through dick and thin. You told me I see change your life. You know, by the way, let me tell you something. I love your husband. I like to think we're very good friends when we have shows together we talk I always try to find them I was mad I didn't see you the other night I went over there looking for you I was gone but I went and I always talk to them and the man not every man although every man gotta love their wife right but not every man talks about their wife so passionately and so beautifully like this man does so it's an honor I feel like I know you even though I don't think we met before like that.

1:07:29But I feel like I know you because of how he speaks about you when you're not around. So welcome to the show. Tell us what's going on, what we working on. First of all, it's an honor. Y 'all are legends. We love you. We've been in the game for a long time. And we was at the 160 Barrett and did all I managed to. original build man it's a whole thing so I've been in the game a long time but you are legit the same person here that you are everywhere and that's one of the things I love it and the reason why you can recognize that is because when I see you with your wife you revere her and honor her in a good way she's a good woman thank you oh my god she's dope and she's beautiful you married up you married up you did good I did good, yo.

1:08:23You good? You think I'm good in the crib? You off that right now. I told her today, I walked out the crib, I said, high blood pressure. High blood pressure. You giving me high blood pressure? I got to get out of here. I ran up out the crib. Oh, my God. But you know, on behalf of my wife, we sent in two planes Friday to Columbia filled with food, women's hygiene, waters, because they had the earthquake. She's Colombian. Yeah. So, you know, we got to do that. You know,

1:08:56She was like, yo, what about my people? I said, you know what? We're going to put that thing in the... We're going to make it happen with the people, the Queens, Borough President, Ruben Diaz, a bunch of people came together. They collected all these food. They had no way... You know, when disasters happen, people, they do what they can, but they can't pay for the plane. To get it there. The plane's the real deal. Like that 777 is like, and so it seems like all the disasters, they tap me and be like, yo, we need a plane. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I think fat joke. But we do. We make it happen. Yeah.

1:09:36You know, it's a big thing for me to give back to the people, help the people. But that's why God bless you. All the time. And that's what you need to know is that because of the way that you pour out and you put in, that's why God never leaves and always has favor in your life. because of the things that you do for the community and the things that you do. Not everybody does. They have it, but not everybody does that. So I recognize. I'm a terrible liar. And so, you know, if I give you my word or if I tell you I'm going to do something, I got to see it through. Sometimes it's uncomfortable, but sometimes I got to see it through.

1:10:14So my thing is, God, look out for me. I promise you, God, when you look out for me, I'm going to take care of the people. I'm going to share with the people I'm going to look out for the people I'm going to this, this, that and then the man start blessing you that's it he says he can get it through you he'll get it through you that's it we got to help the people that's it all the time you know I'll tell you something quick and I really want you to talk about the book and everything but you know one day I'm driving through the Bronx by myself I'm in my Rolls Royce I stopped at the gas station and I go get me a Diet Pepsi See, when I come out as a homeless man, not regular homeless, this guy got all you all over.

1:10:53He's not a regular one. He's like supreme beam homeless. He's not just a new guy that lost his job. This guy is like, forget about it. I sit there. I say, I'm like, yo, yo. He's like, yo, Joe, I don't want nothing. I said, what? You be the first. You don't want nothing? I don't want nothing. I just want you to know I'm here. I'm out here in these streets we know what you do for us we know how you took care of the Muslim people in the fire we know this he started telling me but he says we know we out here we see what you're doing and that's better than any you know Grammy any BET award anything in the world where you got the most the guy who's in the biggest struggle ever he's homeless or you on him and all that I said I don't need I know what you're doing he said we know and we don't, you know, a lot of people don't see those people.

1:11:50Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? So when you do see them, you know, and they say stuff like, oh no, we see you. It's a big deal. Sometimes you're entertaining angels when you do that. You don't understand. You ever thought that? I do. I do believe that. They ask you for something and you be like, yo, that might be God. Listen, sometimes he subs them in because he's testing you. He's trying to test your heart to see if you're the same here and the same there. I could tell you two weird things that happened to me. A lot of weird things have happened. Like, two times in my life, one time in Miami, I went through something where they was about to kill me or something, and some random man got me out of there.

1:12:39He put, yo, jump in the car. Right? I jump in the car, I get out of there. we in Vegas we're going to Vegas for a show it's about a hundred degrees it's a wildfire the bus breaks down the bus breaks down in the middle of the thing guy pulls up in the van like a 16 passage girl it's the same man who took me from Miami he said you remember me? I said yo yo I was like yo he was like I'm a guy from Miami that time we jumped in this van. That was amazing. That was crazy. That's crazy. That's amazing. But that's how it happens. And that's the thing. I've seen the same guy with Keith Sweat. I can't believe it.

1:13:27I went to the Keith Sweat show and he was behind stage with Keith Sweat, the same guy. And I was like, yo, I never tell that one because some of my stories is too much. That really happened in real life. The same guy in the middle of the desert in Miami, that's when I get to thinking like, yo, this guy, angel or something? Because this guy, he come up and... A sign to your life. Years later. Well, that's why. So when he talked about prostate cancer and he was talking about, he trusts you. The thing is, is that the reason why he blessed you is because he trusts you. And sometimes it's a test. Sometimes it's a I get it to you to see if I can get it through you.

1:14:10Talk slow. So it's a big thing. And the thing is, is that you, because you're real and because you're a real one and you're going to do what you're going to say and say what you're going to do, that's why God can trust you with those kind of things. And that's why he keeps blessing you. He can't trust everybody. He cannot. He can't trust everybody. That's crazy. I've got to gas you up. Y 'all are legends. For me, literally, I got kids that know y 'all by voice. Yeah, that's crazy. they don't even have to see you. I can put on something and if your voice comes on it, they know it immediately. And that's one, that's the difference between a lot of music today or whatever.

1:14:58Like, it's music now. It was artistry during our time period. Individuals. I mean, I can tell you how about that. You know, I was, yeah. We was like, we knew. We knew. You know, I was in the, I was going to tell it, but you caught goosebumps right there. So I just let you finish because I'm infamous for cutting people off. But when I left my mother's house, I was 14. I fought with my father and I said, I'm going to the streets. But I'm only 14. Think about your kids now. 14, we was already met. I'm 14. I'm terrified. And I'm sleeping in a crackhead hotel. hell. They busting people's heads open.

1:15:43The cop cars is all over. They shooting heroin in the AIDS epidemic right outside the door. You open the door, a lady shooting heroin in the door. The only thing that got me through that was listening to Slick Rick all night long on repeat. I had a Walkman. I needed the Walkman to sleep. Every, you know, lardy-dardy all night. Just Slick Rick, Slick Rick, Slick Rick every day. I know every ad lib, every word, every everything to every Slick Rick. So when you're explaining it to me, I'm saying to myself, wow, because I could, I could single-handedly, I love everybody for everything in hip-hop, but I could single-handedly say that time of my life where I needed the most courage, it was Slick Rick that was getting me through the night.

1:16:29That's dope. That was, that's nuts. That's dope. You know? So you guys got a book? That's it. Courage. It's a good segue. It's called Courage? No, but that's what it's all about. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what it's about. It's Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed. And it's about a monster who lives under the bed and he's afraid of the little girl that lives upstairs. And what it is, it's a flip on fear. Usually the other way. That's it. It's a flip on fear. My son, when he was three years old, was afraid of the monster that lived under his bed. And every night he'd be in my room trying to sleep in our bedroom.

1:17:06And I was like, yo, he got to go back to his bedroom. This is not going to work. This is married folks stuff. We can't do this. But for me, I had this idea when I went to go put him to bed and I said, buddy, what if the monster under your bed is more afraid of you than you are of him? And what if he wants to be your friend? Because he's afraid that you live upstairs. And he was like, huh. And it made his mind start to process that, wait a minute. And I said, you're bigger than him. He's afraid of you. You don't have to ever be afraid of him. And kids are afraid of the unknown. They're afraid of what they don't understand and what they don't know.

1:17:46And so we want to make sure for us that it, that was what sparked the idea to make sure that kids know how to be brave and to be courageous. Because it's not that it's not scary. It's that do it afraid. Fear is going to come. That's it. you can't stop fear from coming. There's a lot to be afraid of in the world. Right now, especially. But from the standpoint of this, we're able to equip a kid that even in the face of fear, you can still be brave. You can still take a courageous step. You can still do it, you know, afraid. And so, I mean, for me, you know, that Shiloh, you know, has a little girl he's afraid of above the bed or whatever.

1:18:25For me, it was cancer. You know what I'm saying? That's a monster. You know what I mean? And so from that standpoint, when you are faced with a diagnosis or something like that, the same way that we're trying to help equip kids to be able to deal with fear. We're not just a book of kids. It's for the adults that are imparting that into making that investment into their kids because there's a lot of adults that's afraid of stuff to this day because unattended fear in childhood becomes trauma and anxiety in adulthood. And so literally those are the spaces we're trying to help our kids right now, our grandkids now.

1:19:02We're trying to equip them to, even though fear will be present, you can still be courageous and take the next bold step. At the end of the day, it's all about courage. And every time you face fear, every time, you know, you just got to stand up. Yep. I wrote a book about my life and if I had to break it down, it'd just be courage. you know so many times it looked like the whole world was falling on you and you gotta come outside you gotta face the fear you gotta have courage you know what I mean? It's a sick world out here but you know what's funny is that you were talking about Joel Osteen earlier and it's one of the things that for us it's teaching kids how to speak over their own life like one of the things that we do with him is he has a brave stance so that even when he feels afraid he'll look in the mirror and say I am brave I am courageous.

1:19:58I'm loved. I'm full of God. The thing is, is that when we speak those words of life, which is why you love Joel Osteen, is that he speaks life. It's the life that he speaks over you that is what is attractive to you. And that's the part that you're like, okay, it makes me feel good because that's how God designed us. We speak life and life happens. We speak death. It also happens because we have that power. But that's one of the things. If we can empower our kids to do that, Then for us as counselors, as marriage counselors, we sit across from people all the time, afraid to stay, afraid to go, afraid to make a decision.

1:20:35I'm like, dear God, what are we doing? But what it is, is they never address these things as kids. And so now they're afraid of everything. And so now we need to double back. Let's empower our kids. Nobody could pick their childhood. No, not at all. Whatever trauma they went through or whatever the case may be, you just got to fight through it. because, you know, the type of stuff I went through, I thought everybody went through it. I've been telling people stories of when I was a kid and they look at me like I got seven heads. They're like, huh? Yeah, every night, every day it happened. Every single day.

1:21:10Really? This, this, that. I think about it. I got bullied every day for two years in junior high school. I got beat up by 20 guys every day. And my mother wouldn't allow me to quit school. So I had to fight these guys every day. They beat me up every day. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I'm telling you. But I had to go to school every day. And I'm happy I did. You know what I'm saying? I seen this guy. I met this guy one time. This guy says, my man Tony R &S brings his man to the studio. I'm already the dawn. Now I got all my guys around, bro's voice outside, this, this, that. So he comes and he says, yo, this is my man.

1:21:52And, you know, his wife went to junior high with you. Immediately, I like shrunk. I said, oh, God, he knows. This guy knows. So I said, your wife went to junior high with me? It was like, yeah, she went to junior high with you. I said, but she told you I got beat up every day? He said, nah, she seemed different. She said, you had enough heart to fight 20 guys every day out there. You had a heart. Perspective. You know what I'm saying? And it's a fresh cup of perspective. But kids need to know that they have the power to stand up for that kind of stuff. See, in this day and age, like there's so many things that are scary.

1:22:29Like for me, one of the things for us in Atlanta, there's a lot of stuff going on with ICE. And a lot of kids got a lot of things to be afraid of that are real things. Like we're not talking about like little stuff. We're talking about like, I don't know if my parent is coming home. Like, so we want to be able to empower kids. Let me tell you what ICE is doing now. It's a new ICE. remember they came out and he was like in the middle yo kiss I'm trying to y 'all don't want to hear it I'm talking to my wife about this shit first thing in this morning it's a new ice they got a new style they ain't just killing people in the middle of the street coming out with the vest like that they walking up to people's jobs nicely this guy I'm doing my house my apartment over in Miami this guy came, measured my whole apartment nice man from Venezuela the next day they contacted him and said hey we got work for you to do he went over there thinking it was working he was like my friend to Venezuela they're walking up to people in the supermarket, they're not coming ice like this no more, they're walking up hey senora papele, please in the supermarket, while you shopping oh you gotta go, come on let's go, they doing it quiet now They say the new name is Nice.

1:23:52Nice. The new name is... I, I, I... Yo, kid. No. Yo, kid. No. The new ice is nice. I'm playing my words with this guy. No, sir.

1:24:12It's terrifying. Man, thank you guys. I love you guys. I'm getting father of the year for this I'm getting father of the year for this I'm telling you my kids they love y 'all we be on this couch they're like yo my dad is actually somebody this is Arsenio Hall 2026 they gotta step here they gotta step into the circle man but we love you man how do I move from I don't know where I'm in I know old Steen is number one I'm clear I get that. I'm trying to figure out I don't know where I'm at on that pastoral list with you. I'm someone... I don't know if I'm top five or whatever. You got 1A. I got you above Joel.

1:24:57He got Joel as Z. I got you above Joel. See, you don't like my guy. I didn't say I don't like him. I'm scared to even say that's my guy because when I say it's my guy, you don't like Bishop Jordan. you don't like the Bishop Williams you don't like Bishop Taylor why you like Joel Osteen nobody never said that the nicest guy the man comes on hey everybody look at me Joel Osteen where can they get the books yeah Amazon Barnes and Nobles books a million Shilohthebrave.com it's a great great children's book you're gonna love it for your family this is a modern day Dr. Su's Peanuts. It's like, this kid, this monster has a whole world that's about to be open.

1:25:47My wife gave birth to this for our new space in the world. I've done music. I see a cartoon happening. Yes, sir. It's all there. I see everything. It's helping the people. Whenever you do something where you're helping the people, it always wins because you're helping the people. You're giving the kids courage. This ain't that. That ain't this. Crack and kiss, baby. One love makes some noise for our guests. much out in this building. This time we do it. It's Friday night and the field is right. The party's down at the west side. Y 'all. Don't play with best song ever.

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