In short
Omar Epps promotes his new film Moses the Black and discusses Black performance legacies, especially his experiences working with Tupac in Juice and with LL Cool J and others; he also reflects on storytelling, music’s emotional power, and Black Hollywood’s evolution.
Guests
Omar Epps (actor; New York–born; known for roles including House and Juice; executive producer on Moses the Black). The episode also features Fat Joe (rapper/host figure) and multiple recurring comedian/celebrity voices in the surrounding ad/intro segments, but the main guest conversation is Omar Epps with Fat Joe.
Key claims
Moses the Black parallels the biblical Ethiopian “Moses the Black,” with Omar’s character Malik learning he must become the change after prison. Omar argues Black imagery and music shape identity and motivation, and that early hip-hop unity shifted as money arrived, increasing ego and conflict. He says he chose House to surprise audiences by keeping a rough-and-tumble tattooed background.
Notable examples
Filming Juice at age 17 with Tupac; working with LL Cool J; House character decisions; iconic Black acting scenes (In the Heat of the Night, Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X); music memories like hearing “Ain’t No Half Steppin’”; Fat Joe stories about Scarface Steve and driving around projects with “Mercenary Joe” energy.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOmar Epps: Career and Legacy
4:25 to 9:07
A discussion about Omar Epps' career and his impact on culture.
“They know, yo, this shit, like the Martin show.”
Filming Juice and the Tupac Experience
9:07 to 12:15
Omar Epps shares experiences filming Juice and working with Tupac.
“like, ain't no fluidity in this La Quinta Inn.”
Moses the Black: The New Film
12:15 to 13:54
An overview of Omar Epps' new film, Moses the Black, discussing its themes.
“You know, it's crazy because my mother, she passed away recently.”
Character Evolution in 'Moses the Black'
14:01 to 14:50
Learn about the character Malik and his transformative journey in the film.
“in his life where he realizes he has to become the thing that he's seeking.”
Working with Quavo and Storytelling
14:51 to 15:40
Discover how storytelling transcends formats, including rap and cinema.
“You know, the thing is, like, for us, again, when I say, like, storytellers, people always, oh, rap and this, I'm like, oh, storytelling.”
The Evolution of Language in Hip-Hop
15:41 to 16:29
Explore the changes in language and culture within the hip-hop community.
“Now I'm, you know, the poorest king throwing flags every 10 seconds.”
The Reality of Fame and Public Perception
16:30 to 17:43
Dive into the challenges of public recognition and expectations in the spotlight.
“If you do your research, it can go on and on and on.”
Intrusiveness of Technology and FaceTime
17:44 to 19:52
Discuss the personal boundaries impacted by FaceTime and modern technology.
“They think he's just bringing them everywhere.”
Reflections on Black Hollywood and Unity
19:53 to 21:05
Reflect on the sense of unity and love in Black Hollywood during the 90s.
“I was like, yo, my man, what's up with the palm tree behind?”
The Shift in Hip-Hop Culture and Ego
21:06 to 22:55
Examine how financial success changed the dynamics within hip-hop culture.
“One of my questions was black Hollywood in like the 90s.”
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Lessons from the Past for Future Generations
22:56 to 24:24
Understand the importance of learning from past experiences for future success.
“Um, cause it's something you speak about a lot.”
Gratitude for Life's Simple Moments
24:25 to 25:34
Appreciate the importance of taking time for oneself and enjoying solitude.
“and see if somebody in my family got money they ain't never get money like this or how that like so this is all learning while you're growing.”
The Struggles and Realities of the Industry
33:19 to 35:08
Joe and a guest reflect on the challenges faced in their respective industries and the impact of upbringing.
“This whole fucking industry was terrified.”
Adapting to Life Experiences
35:09 to 37:00
Explore how life experiences shape personal and professional paths, including the stigma surrounding one's background.
“Yeah, my heart was always in the right place.”
Entrepreneurship in Adverse Conditions
37:01 to 37:51
Discussion on how growing up in tough environments can lead to entrepreneurship and resilience.
“you got the police trying to lock you up every day, then you got the feds giving you the long term that's the long term 479 ,000 policy they all be I was watching this documentary remember Crazy Eddie?”
Life in Different Environments
37:52 to 39:07
Insights into the contrast between urban and rural living, and personal anecdotes related to both.
“Managing a household with you, a superstar actor, and your wife, a superstar singer, part of a superstar group.”
Passion for Acting and Evolving as an Artist
39:08 to 42:00
Discussion about the passion for acting and the desire to expand into other areas of art and production.
“when we go on tour and we drive them buses all over, I'd be like, damn, I would like to live in some shit like this.”
Evolving Passion for Acting
42:00 to 43:12
Omar Epps discusses his enduring passion for acting and future aspirations in the industry.
“But, you know, unless I'm on, like, an island somewhere, like, when I travel the world, that's when I'd be like, man, I could pick up anything.”
Iconic Black Film Scenes
43:12 to 44:10
Omar reflects on some of the most iconic scenes by Black actors in film history.
“What are some of the Black actors most iconic scenes?”
Praise for 'Juice' and Tupac's Legacy
44:10 to 45:46
Discussion on the film 'Juice' and its cultural impact alongside Tupac's legacy.
“What's one of the most iconic scenes that you would call this?”
Memories of Tupac's Presence
45:46 to 47:28
A vivid recollection of Tupac's charisma and presence in the music scene during the 90s.
“You know, it's the illest shit with that.”
Superhero Presence in Music
47:28 to 48:24
The conversation dives into the superhero-like presence of iconic figures in hip-hop.
“He was dressed just like Kiss right now.”
Influential Albums and Personal Stories
48:24 to 52:14
Exploring influential albums and personal anecdotes tied to music and life experiences.
“The first time I heard that beat, I wanted to jump through the wall.”
Movie Release and Support
52:14 to 55:40
Discussion on the release of 'Moses the Black' and the importance of supporting community films.
“the music you understand what I'm saying the artist that's driving it what we're doing for not only ourselves and our family but what we're doing for this culture that we were bestowed, sort of passed on to us.”
The Importance of Movie Experiences
56:00 to 56:56
Learn about the excitement and social aspects of going to the theater.
“It's going to see not only with your peoples, but people you don't know.”
Celebrating Tiana Taylor's Achievements
56:56 to 57:48
Discover the pride and admiration for Tiana Taylor's rising career.
“All right, before we leave, I know it's time for you to go, but how proud are we of Tiana Taylor, man?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00When you own your own business, you own every decision. Catch the red eye or take the 6 a.m. Make a new hire or promote internally. Celebrate a win with the toast at the gate or unwind at the lounge. Big props to this team. Some decisions are a win-win, like earning eight times points on Chase Travel. Chase Sapphire Reserve for Business, the business card that gives back all you put in. Visit chase.com slash reserve business to learn more. Cards issued by JPMorgan Chase Bank, any member of DIC. Subject to credit approval. Terms apply. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.
0:33And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
1:10This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be?, I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to fupas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me, or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes?
1:51They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. By the way, my brothers, whoever got the number, the new, don't do it. I'm ready to block you no matter how much I love you. Y 'all see what happened? They got the Netflix deal. Joe and Hollywood on it. He switched his number on them, y 'all.
2:35What up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack the Dong. You know who it is, your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. Shout out to Netflix. We crushing, y 'all niggas. When you think of today's guest, hold on, that was Netflix. They calling me. When you think of today's guest, you think of a cult classic, a part of a cult classic in every era. You think of long range. You think of chops. You think he can play a police officer. He can play on the he can play a detective. He can go undercover. He can play a basketball star. He can play a doctor. He can play anything.
3:25If you're around our age, you grew with him. He's a DJ, huh? A great family man. He could play a DJ. Fucking icon, living legend. I've seen him in the hallway on tour, in the dressing room. Kicked it with him. You know what I mean? Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Omar.
3:48You know, Omar, you one of them guys where there's not enough to say about you because just like me and Kiss, we grew up watching you on the movie screen for all of our careers. So it's just, there's no way to roll it out perfectly because we would be here for like a fucking day just explaining, you know, your contributions to the culture and the game. But definitely - I grew up with y 'all. Appreciate that. From excess CDs, all of that. You know what I mean? So we was all in that generation. We was all coming up together. Kids with dreams. You know what I'm saying? New York, born and bred. You know what I mean?
4:35We covered all the bases. the show right to me is it's almost like a sitcom so I told him the other day when he didn't have fluidity he was under the weather I was like yo you know Netflix just started a podcast thing and I and big up everybody but I watched all the other podcasts a little 15 minutes they ain't got the fluidity they ain't got Omar FC fucking shining in a 3B suit with a set with a dick I looked at all of them and there's some great people on there, but I'm hoping that your random customer don't got nothing to do on Netflix and they love podcasts and the one time they go, boom! They know, yo, this shit, like the Martin show.
5:22Nah, y 'all killing it. I think I heard you more. I've been watching y 'all from the top and I think one time you said, like, y 'all like the honeymoon is and I was like, nah, it's like the I couple. It's the I couple? It's like the I couple. You know what I'm saying? It's like the I couple. Because, you know, we know y 'all. Like I said, we grew up with y 'all. So I was like, everybody else, how's that going, Rock? You know what I mean? And y 'all just, you just can't beat it. It's so organic. It's so authentic. You know what I mean? And it's just to have these conversations and we all done seen so much.
5:56Like, been around so many different moments that, you know what I mean? It's the show itself itself. This guy like Jay Reed, man, he shoot me every show. When I go home and watch the repeat like you, I said, motherfucker, this guy don't snipe me from the... You get that on the way home. You iconic for the fact your skill and your ability to be on screen and, you know, the roles you arrange. But you got to work with LL. You got to work with Pac. When was them days filming Juice? Like, I was Pac. Like, Filmin' Juice was incredible, man. I was 17, flesh out of high school. You was wearing these. I was wearing those, yeah.
6:44No, no, no. You was wearing 40-belows, though. But, you know, again, like, in a sense, it happened so fast that it was hard to take in the magnitude of. But I will say I felt something special in the sense of the film, the characters, those moments were speaking to me. I was living that. I felt like, oh, yeah, this is like us on the block. So it just felt like I would go see this. You know what I mean? And just like Pop, it's funny because it's like not funny, but like this is he wasn't the Tupac everybody knows. He was just Pop. Just like he was Tupac after that movie. he was, but he was like, oh, that's my man.
7:27And like, you know what I mean? He cooking up. He's doing a music thing. Spitting verses in the trailer. But he was him. I was like, yo, that dude got, he got something different. I mean, and then L, it's LL. I'm sitting there, I'm like, that's crazy. Like, we just sitting down, chopping up, just talking, just giving me, you know, business knowledge and things of that nature. You know, it's interesting. Now you got all these lists and it's this and it's that. And it's just like, yo, I've never seen nothing like that. I think people don't realize how young he was when he started. When he started.
8:03He's still going. He's a teenager. He's a teenager. Facts. I say that all the time. He get mad at me. He's my idol, but every time. The first artist on Def Jam, and he's still going strong and fucking powerful and active as ever. But what I'm saying to you is I'm a couple of years older than you, and I was outside. I'm a couple of years older than you. No doubt. And I was outside, and I never seen L.L. Cool J as well. I seen Big Daddy Kane. I seen Nights at Swamp. I seen all of them. You couldn't even see L.L. Cool J. He was like Justin Bieber. He popped off so young. Nas used to be like that for me.
8:43It took me mad years. Nas, I didn't see Nas. Nah, I was with Nas. When Nas started, I started with him. It took me 14 years. I've been in bummy hotels with Nas. I've seen Nas. I've been in bummy hotels with Nas talking about, yo, that you think you... Nas used to be like, yo, we ever seen the money? God, I'm like, yo, you romantic, don't worry, it's gonna come. He'd be like, yo, God, like, ain't no fluidity in this La Quinta Inn. Nah, I was seen Nas. Now, what about... Kissed and I played ball? She had two for that movie. All right. Yeah, she had two. We was training and all of that, working with these coaches.
9:26You know, to hit a shot when the license on is hard. Yeah. I mean, the gym is easy. But when it's like, you know, we was really filming in high school and all that. You know, we know how crowds are at the ballgame. You know, Kev was take 23. Y 'all, you know what I mean? It's like, yo, we're filming something here. Yeah. Supposed to miss. Classic dog. Yeah. How about the woods? How was that? Pause, filming that. Yeah, that's a whole pause. Now it's 2026. You got to do a pause for the kill you. You got to, on the title of the movie? Nah, that shit pause. Yeah, they're going to get... Englewood.
10:06Yeah, how was it filming Englewood? Englewood. Still pause. That's right. Englewood's a non-pause. Yeah. But the wood? I think that was like a mature version of like the brotherhood. You know what I mean? like you know they were still from the mud but like doing different things and I think it was a dope depiction of that version of brotherhood and that was fun man I loved it you did about 7-8 years on house as a doctor how's that because obviously when you get to house and stuff like that they not cast but that's a big part Part of the reason I wanted to do a house was because I'm like, they're not going to see this coming.
10:55Because I was aware, or at least in my mind, I'm like, they probably have seen me like this. They think I can only do this. I'm going to go make this left right here and bring us with me. You know what I mean? Like when I first did a house, the one when I was first meeting with them, I was like, yo, it's like, yo, is there anything you want for a character? You like this, that, and you have it? And I was like, I want him to keep the tattoo of him because he's from rough and tumble and all of this. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was for little kids that look like us. It was like a dog whistle to them.
11:31Like, yo, you could have a white jacket too because the power of imagery is different from the power of voice, like audio. You know what I'm saying? Art is so powerful, man. What we do, I feel like we briots and we sages, But like, you know, listening to a song, a fighter before the fight, like, yo, it's getting them amp or the ballplayer before the game. Or, you know, when you listen to a song, we sad, it puts you in a certain mood. You can hear a song and smell your grandmother cooking. And you know what I mean? Like these type of things. So what we do, we need we know the power of it. And the younger generation need to know that it's not disposable.
12:11It's not just for the dollar. You know what I'm saying? It's much more powerful. No doubt. You know, it's crazy because my mother, she passed away recently. If she was alive right now, she'd be right by the TV listening to the Temptations and the OJs and all that. And I ain't been able to listen to that kind of music since she passed. Because it just automatically puts you in that space where I've been like, you know what I'm saying? My wife tried to throw that shit on the other day. I was like, yo, I ain't ready to hear that shit right now. But you will be one day. But you said you ain't ready.
12:44But you see what I'm saying? Like, we'd be so caught up in the hustle, the business of it. But it's a whole other side to this thing that the reason why we all got in, why it really spoke to us, motivated us from when we were young, like, all right, and then you find you got a lane with that thing. You know what I mean? I'll tell you what I've been doing this 30 years. It's just a blessing every day, man. Let me tell you something. You look great. Thank you. Your wife's our sister. What is the skin remedy for you guys today? Because you shit looking brand new balls. Thank you, man. You, your wife, is a different fluidity.
13:24Are y 'all like wake up every day and do Pilates together and shit? They got a special shape on it. Do y 'all do Pilates and yoga in the house? Everybody like, what's going on? Taking care of self for me. You know, listen, wifey, man, just be happy. being happy and got a beautiful family, beautiful kids, you know what I'm saying? In a constant state of gratitude and, you know, just take care of ourselves. Let's get to the new movie, Moses the Black. Moses the Black. Yeah, Moses the Black, man. I'm excited about this. It's a story about a man who comes to an impasse in his life where he realizes he has to become the thing that he's seeking.
14:05Right? And that's the character I play, Malik. And he gets out of prison and he realizes something has to change. He has to become the change. And it's juxtaposed against the story of the true story of Moses, the black, the Ethiopian, who was a saint and how their stories parallel. So the Moses, the black and fourth century, he was, he was the real Robin hood, but he was a super gangster. You know what I mean? And then he had a moment where he shifted and went on to evolve to a point to where he's a saint. Like, you go in churches around the world, they got the picture of this Ethiopian man, like, along with all the other saints that we know, right?
14:46So it's kind of like how their stories is running parallel. You know, it's different. It's different. What was it like working with Quavo? That was dope, man. Quavo was dope with Skillabies. You know, the thing is, like, for us, again, when I say, like, storytellers, people always, oh, rap and this, I'm like, oh, storytelling. It's just a different format. You know what I mean? And it's the type of project that I feel like everybody that was there was there for the right reason. So they were open to the process. You know what I'm saying? So it was just dope to see them do their thing. You know, like Wiz has done some stuff before but some of them were just getting their feet wet.
15:26That's not a part, right? Because I know y 'all super poor. Feet wet is cool. Are you sure? Should I throw a flag? Nah, nah. You know, I started in this arena. I was like, yo, I don't play that poor shit. Now I'm, you know, the poorest king throwing flags every 10 seconds. It's just a strength. It's fun as a game, but we can't do that everything. Like, guys, come on, guys. It's just the English language, my dude. You know, they do it. It's just, I'm really, shout out to Cam. Shout out to everybody that started it. I really never want to play it, but sometimes some of the things people say is like, it comes from the heavens above.
16:12It's like, Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. It's a lot of lyrics from back in the days. Oh. Tell me about it. I'm just saying, if you want to go to that, it'd be a whole, you know. No, you can't. You can't go to that. It's never in. or... If you do your research, it can go on and on and on. No, no, that's crazy. If you go to the back in the days, the lyrics... But you see, the culture don't change. The slang changes. So let me ask you something. Ooh, baby, I like it, bro. Is that like a pause mania? That's not pause. That's just like crazy. We just knew old DB was crazy. So that went perfect with his persona.
16:57But in fairness, anybody like it wrong? Let's be honest. That's a fact. That's a fact, though, man. That's really from somewhere in the Bible is reworded. That's in there. They just put it different. You know, the actors and industry and shout out my sister Tiana. She called me yesterday. Shout out. She got you. She got me. She got you. You're fluidic. You see how your brother. Yeah, come on, man. Don't do that. She got your fluidity. You know what I'm saying? The guy over here. The guy over here. Yeah, I'm like, if I go to CVS, I got him with. I swear to God, they think I got Jada. Does that happen to you now in the street?
17:41They think I got Jada kissed with me. I'm in the CVS. I could be in the summer. Yo, where's Jada? Where's Joe at? Joe and no fucking smoke cigars. They think he's just bringing them everywhere. I'm like, yo, bro, he's home. He's doing his thing. Like, what are y 'all asking for? What? That came up. If I ever call you on FaceTime, I charge the$5 ,000. You want to see Joe? Yo, crack. I mean, I'll let you. There's somebody right there that gave me five racks. Don't change my number for the first time in 30 years. Not because I was getting threats or nothing like that. What happened to me was I had friends that I truly love, that I love, that I grew up with and stuff like that, still had my number.
18:23and anytime they would call me at any time of the day and it's always FaceTime. Be like, yo, I told you he's here. I hate that shit. Like, no, no. It's a pet peeve. Like, by the way, my brothers, whoever got the number, the new, don't do it. I'm ready to block you no matter how much I love you. I don't know. Yo, y 'all see what? Y 'all see what happened? They got the Netflix deal. Joe, we're in Hollywood on it. He switched his number. He switched his number on him, y 'all. That's not what I'm saying. Nah, I figured out. What I'm saying is... Don't FaceTime nobody with no surprises. Chef Mark, my brother, one of my truest friends, my best friends in the world, don't go to the random restaurant and bring out the chef on the air.
19:10I might be topless. Yo. You know... That's flat. You know... Yo, listen. That's flat. Listen. you know Puerto Ricans real top when you call any of your Puerto Rican homies in the house they never got a shirt on even when I call them I'm keeping it real with you they topless right so but yo chef you know it's like one of my best friends on earth when I ain't have a dollar you know he's always been there for me I love him a death but yo chef stop like y 'all gotta stop calling me with yo I don't want that that's one thing I'm not the FaceTime's being intrusive I feel you on that depending on that ain't just call me like it I forget you on the side of the road with it don't FaceTime it should be unless it's something FaceTime is great but at the same time it eliminates the mystery right like it's like you can't disappear no more like that right right you could have disappeared right you could have told somebody yo I'm in Miami and you can be down the block.
20:20They can't see you, right? I was like, yo, my man, what's up with the palm tree behind? Like, they know. That's why you can't all that location. You can fake it, though. Go right by the speaker. I'm in Cancun with a white background. That's crazy. That's the one thing my wife hates about this set is the fake palm trees. Every time she bites, she'll be like, man, I'm fake palm trees. I'll be like, yo, ma, we need some fluidity. This motherfucker. Could we get some real ones? It's a feel. My shit is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Don't fix it. We out here number one. He complimented the set when he came.
20:57He's like, yo, this, you know, listen. Let me explain something to you, man. Nah, I don't want to go bad. Omar F's came in, he looked clean and all that. Don't, don't. This joint executive. You know I'm crazy, man. Y 'all strike a man. This executive produced by 50? Yeah, yeah. About 50 myself. Black excellence, for real. That's beautiful.
21:21One of my questions was black Hollywood in like the 90s. What was that like out there? Who was coming up? I mean, anybody you could think of, me, you know, the Friends, the car, Fox. It was a beautiful time. You know what I'm talking about. It was so much love back in the day. Everybody had their little beef or whatever. but I just remember so much love back in the day. Unity. What? Unity. Like, real unity. Unity. Like, everybody was just... Fat Joe in the early 90s was in the Kwame video. It wasn't a video. They called me up and be like, yo, come. I'll come. Talk about the other kind of YouTube.
22:06I'm just saying, I was... Bro, when I came in the game, it was about love. It was about everybody jumping in everybody's video, or everybody loving each other, supporting each other and this, and somewhere where he's trying to say, I could tell you a hip hop, it all started when people actually started making money. That's when that ego turned into like, yo, I'm better than you, I'm bigger than you, my shit bigger, our crew is more rugged. As soon as they started handing over that bag, I watched the nicest pedestrians turn into gangbangers, all type of things. I'm like, oh, this shit crazy. That's like, I guess it's a part of the process, right?
22:48I think when the bad comes into anything, then you get to see, you know, characters, you know, people got to give them a chance to grow and evolve too. Um, cause it's something you speak about a lot. And I'm like, I can really relate to that. Like I've been around, I've seen, I was young. So a lot of the older heads don't remember that was me, the quiet kid in the corner. I seen you do that. I I seen this, I seen that, and I'm just taking notes the whole time. And I seen people talk to certain people or treat people a certain way, look up in four years. They running that company. And they treating you breezy.
23:26And you wondering why. And I'm sitting there like, that's probably because you used to shit on that person or whatever the case. So it's just, you know, you learn. Living, learning, you know, for the younger generation, they baggers. It's almost like it's not fair. It's like in sports, right? We happy for them, but it ain't fair. I'm saying it ain't fair. We happy for them, but it ain't fair. It ain't fair to them. Because if you coming in 18, 19, 20, you know. Too much money to. Like when you doing 500 a show, 700 a show, you're like, you can feel the weight of what you're earning. If somebody just come off top like, yo, here's 100 mil.
24:09You a teenager or whatever. but your parents don't even know what to do. You need some help. You know what I mean? That lineage, we never had that we could play Moses Black but we wasn't you would go back a hundred years and see if somebody in my family got money they ain't never get money like this or how that like so this is all learning while you're growing. Right. You know and with me I had a lot of like today I cut somebody off they had somebody after you would guess I watched the shit. It was an amazing story. I found out he was a rat. I said, yo, he can't come up here on this couch. That nigga can't come in here.
24:50Hey. He just can't. He can't come on this couch. For my fluidity, right? But what I'm saying to you is this is years of developing these characters and going through mistakes and flaws and there's nothing. We ain't know nothing. you know what I'm saying? Did you know the beauty, Joe, not the country? That we gave ourselves the chance to evolve and to learn. This younger generation, they cutting themselves with the needs. It's like getting to this stage, it's illegible. It's a blessing. It's a blessing. You know what I mean? Every single day. Let them know again. Every single day we wake up, we call each other, yo, thank God we got another day.
25:37Right now, at this point, Highway Robin. Right. So my wife and my daughter went out last night, and I stood home by my... By the way, it feels good being home by yourself sometimes. This shit is incredible. Man, I'm female. I don't know. This shit, I go... Did you cut the new chair? Hold up. I got the new chair. Yo, listen, I got a new massage chair. It's so expensive. Don't try this at home. But I bought the motherfucker, and I went up in there, right? You went with me, man. But listen, what I'm saying is, I like taking baths, so I got the big jacuzzi. I'm by myself. I'm playing. I want to thank you.
26:22It's a pause moment. That's right. He pre-pawed. He threw the flag early. Let's just get it out the way. Let's get him out the way, guys. Now you can tell a story in peace. We had to throw the flags. He already heard the bath. Melissa Morgan. playing that shit up on there. Someone to thank you. Then I'm just looking at little shit like the light bulbs and the fucking marble with the... And I'm just like, God, wow. Thank you. This is like fucking a... Because like you said, we always chasing the check work and we barely home in Georgia. And I'm looking at the light bulbs. That's real. This is great.
27:05And I've been living there for the whole time. I'm like...
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30:24Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
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33:19This whole fucking industry was terrified. And so what they do when they terrified of a guy, they block your blessings. And they're like, why would you? It's the same thing in the drug game. I'm the connect. I'm El Chapo. I got a guy who's a nice guy who's nonviolent, who always turns his money in time. Now I got another guy who might kill me for these bricks. Why would I want to make him powerful and feed him when I can keep dealing with, all right, so we can deal with Fat Joe or you can deal with Lupe Fiasco. But you know what, though, Joe? But you know what, though, Joe? You always had a good heart.
33:58I'll tell you a story that you probably don't even remember. I don't know. Speak on it, God. God bless. Cut him off. God bless when Pondhapper was packed. Steve Rifkin called me one day. He was on the phone. He called me like, you got to talk to him. You got to talk. Very, you know, sensitive moment. He was just like, yo, you know what to say. And I'm like, all right. We got on the three. Yo, you was really feeling it. Devastated. You talked for a minute or whatever, but I just like, damn. And I told you, I was like, yo, in a way kind of like humanized, like hip hop, like human stuff can happen to it.
34:34Because we all grew up, we all like, we thought every rapper's a superhero, like literally. Like I heard y 'all talk about this on there, but I'm like, yo, as a little kid, nah, we really thought that. You know what I'm saying? And so something like health and things of that nature. And I remember me and you was talking about that. I only say that to say you always had a good heart. You might have, you know, done some things here and there, but I think that's why you continue to get blessed. You know what I'm saying? Because your heart was kind of like always in the right place. You follow what I'm saying?
35:05Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, man, for that. Yeah. I got a good heart, huh? Let me tell you something. Yeah, my heart was always in the right place. Even when I grew up in the Bronx before rap music, it was always trying to help people and look out for people. But, you know, it's a matter of, you know, I got a friend. He passed away. Older white guy, my man, Kevin Buckman, rest in peace with Market America. And we had these conferences where we talked to like 50 ,000 people and motivate them and stuff like that to be entrepreneurs. So one day I sit in the back with him and we talking and he was like, yo, Joe, tell me how you grew up.
35:45I said, yo, Kev, you don't want to know how I grew up. He was like, nah, nah, nah, I'm interested because he was a big coach. I said, well, I sold a lot of drugs. I said, you know, I'm embarrassed. I'm actually ashamed of you. And he said, you shouldn't. And I said, what you mean, Kev? He said, that was your natural habitat. You did what you had to do to survive. He said, you think if I ain't grow up in them projects in the Bronx and the only way to get up out of there was selling drugs, I wouldn't have sold drugs. This was shocking to me that he even thought like that. Although we're not proud about it, but he was just like, yo, you dealt with what was thrown at you with the cards that were thrown at you.
36:29You had to deal with that. Right. And pretty much that's the story of my life. I think if I grew up in a better place and shit like that, I might have been. But we always say that. Even when we look at the old heads, there was legends and all of that. We always be like, yo, they grew up, went to Stanford, and, you know, this dude could have ran a Fortune 500. You know what I mean? But he grew up in the P's over here. You know what I'm saying? Or whatever. And that's what it was. And they were entrepreneurs. Just the product that was available. It was what they was given. You actually worked harder because you got your friends trying to kill you and come up.
37:04you got the police trying to lock you up every day, then you got the feds giving you the long term that's the long term 479 ,000 policy they all be I was watching this documentary remember Crazy Eddie? I had the documentary, I'm like I remember Crazy, it was crazy it was insane it was insane for real it was a whole operation was moving shit. Him, Michael Milken, like all these dudes, it's like, yo, they, you know, when it comes to the black and brown community, they always try to put this stigma on us. But it's like, when you turn the light on other communities, everybody doing the same thing.
37:47You know what I'm saying? We just, we just got to control. We just be styling on themselves. How was it? Big time. Managing a household with you, a superstar actor, and your wife, a superstar singer, part of a superstar group. down with a superstar lady. Yeah. Man, wifey, man, that's my world right there. We've been down so long as far as knowing each other and growing together and everything like that. So starting a family, it's just kind of like she's, to me, more beautiful on the inside than the out. And that's what counts. And so to be able to have a family with her... They just know it for that.
38:29You live in that little town? They told us about a little town in Georgia. Who? That wasn't you? Who? Man, what was it? Somebody Pam, but one of them told us they live in the Alfinia, Georgia. Oh, nah, nah, nah. Now, we out on the West Post. Oh, man. That's probably where it started. I want to live in a little town one day. You know how it's going to fit? Ha ha! Like big jacuzzis, big shit. I'll get that on the way home. Yeah, that was a good one. I'll be like, motherfucking right in my face. I get that on the way home. This thing's crazy. I've always dreamed of like, you know, when we go on tour and we drive them buses all over, I'd be like, damn, I would like to live in some shit like this.
39:15Nah, you want to have a, me and Micah have a spot there, but listen, we city kids through and through. It is real. Right. You know what I mean? I bought a house in fucking, this shit is crazy. I bought a house when I first moved to Miami. I start hanging out with all these football players. And the football players, they live out west in Plantation Aikinson. They got big-ass houses. I mean, my house was big. And them next-door neighborhoods was three times bigger than mine. Every guy on the block was a football player, right? So people riding horses and shit. I'm coming from New York. You know what I'm saying?
39:55With the New York fluidity, I thought that's what I wanted. When I went there, man, middle of the night, you hear the... You got fucking posses of raccoons. I was going to shoot them raccoons. Posse, nigga. Scully's on the door. Coming like, yo. Raccoons with Scully's. Danging on the window. I'm like, yo, get the fuck. They're like, yo, my man. Like, yo, raccoons ain't scared of nobody. Yeah, raccoons are scared of them. She's going to bang on and shit, do whatever you... Listen. Yo, raccoons with Scully's. Yo. That country is crazy. I'm just trying to tell you this. In Miami. They did not. They could at least have some vices.
40:36Them motherfuckers don't give a fuck. Like, I'm banging on the window. Yo, yo, yo, yo. They're not scared. They'll go in your garbage right in front of you. Take what you did. It is called plantation. They're a fucking dog. You didn't think about that? No, but you know in Florida, people have, like, animals. Like, animals they're not supposed to have. Florida, wow. Where I'm at, them niggas just going
41:03I'm like, what the Is that a camel fucking or something? This shit out of control Like, I'm scared The only good thing about Florida I got the Tony Montez Yo, I was waiting for somebody I had the big shit Say hello to my No, the stupid dumb Them shit man somebody tried to break in that front door I just couldn't wait guys and all you guys that live in a legal gun state all got one of them shits by the door wait for somebody to walk up in that bitch I be like boy they come up in Terminator 2 I can't wait right now Terminator 2 come in we'll be talking to you Oh, shit. Yeah, but, you know, I mean, it was an experience.
41:56But I always say I wish I could live in, like, a little town. Yeah, yeah. I like visiting. But, you know, unless I'm on, like, an island somewhere, like, when I travel the world, that's when I'd be like, man, I could pick up anything. Plus, my son, we a senior in high school, so we about to be empty nesters. Ah. So I'm already like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Ready. You know what I mean? We could fly to work wherever. Ready to nest. Yeah, I'm ready, dude. The island is nice. As far as the bag, I know that's always lovely and a plus, but are you still, do you have that same passion about acting?
42:33For sure, because it never leaves you. And evolving, you know, producing, writing, I'm going to direct one day. You know, just evolving, getting into the other parts of it, not just, you know, in front of the camera. When I am in front of the camera, it's really something that I want to do. It's really how I want to spend my time. and I feel like... In front of the camera. Yeah, in front of the camera. In the actor. Yeah, being an actor. And it's, you know, the artist forever. This is a craft I think you will much like you know, writing, I think you get better in time because you live more. You got more range.
43:08You know what I mean? So, you know, I'm excited about this next chapter. What are some of the Black actors most iconic scenes? That's a... King Kong got shit on. I can't front, Joe. Nobody's ever asked me that question, ever. Ha ha! That's so pow pow! I can't front. So the first scene, I'm thinking, Sidney Poitier, it was basically the first time seeing a black man smack a white man on camera. Damn. I seen that on a clip. I seen that. In the heat of the night, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. It was just so jarring. You never seen that before. Yeah. but that's also my acting hero. You know what I mean? Rest in peace.
43:56Sean, think of that. There's so many scenes in Do the Right Thing. I mean, like, three or four of them. I mean... That was a great question. Yeah, that was a great question, but that's the first one that comes to mind. Yeah. Now, what was some of the actors? Hold up. What's one of the most iconic scenes that you would call this? Same question for you. Kane's grandfather. Do you care whether you live or die? I don't know. Look at his face. You know, your man, your man always got, your man always got to revolve. Your man always got to revolve. How is he looking at me, dog? Now that was amazing. My scene would be anybody looked at me?
44:51Anybody said something? Anybody ever had some hated jealousy? Fated fool. Yo, that shit, man. Yo, that shit did good. Yo, I feel like that. Like, in real life. That was very powerful. That was very powerful. That's a great, great question. We really skated past Juice. We ain't given enough praise. But to me, Juice, and that's why I said we don't want to typecast you, whatever the case may be, you young hood. But that's an Illmatic. That movie to me is like such an Illmatic, a classic. You can watch it. It's timeless. You watch it whenever it comes on and whenever you catch it, You can watch it.
45:47You know, it's the illest shit with that. The guy at the end, he start working for BET. So every time we go to the BET Awards, I see him at the end and tell him, you got the juice now. He thinks me looking. He's like, oh, shit, that's really you. I met Tupac shortly after that. But I met Tupac from Juice. I didn't meet that pop. Right. Digital Underground and coming up after Juice. You met with a little bit of Bishop. That man, well, I'll tell you I was there. Big Daddy King confirmed the story. I'm in the crowd. Big Daddy King's performing. And Biggie and Pop come in there. It's a square garden together.
46:27But they come through the back, through the crowd. They're not coming through back. They walk through the crowd. And the man was full-fledged juice too, Pop. He was walking through that crowd like, he was like, yo, it's Pop. He was walking through like, Pop. And Biggie with him. And that's when they do that. I got seven Mac 11s, about eight. That shit. That's legend. Legend of best. And it's ill because, like, the kids don't understand, like, before social media. They can't even comprehend. They don't understand, like, the magnitude when you say, like, I'm coming through or whoever. I got so many memories of people like that.
47:07That's the only time you saw them. So to see somebody in person. Only one hard drive. People went crazy. Bananas. Like all the video footage. You see Michael Jackson back in the days. It was like that. But for us, you know what I mean? They don't understand that. Tupac Shakur walked in like the juice. Yeah. Yeah, the scully like that. He was dressed just like Kiss right now. He was walking in like, even me. I knew him. I'm looking like, yo, that shit. you know what's crazy is my brother DJ Khaled you know one day I'm in the backyard I mean God bless DJ Khaled I don't even know how to explain this shit to you right but I'm in the backyard with him and he said you know Joe you're a star and this and this and that he said but it was nothing like watching you walk in with Big Pooh hmm he said you walking in with Big Pun both of y 'all together he said that shit was like superheroes walking in.
48:19See yo man y 'all two used to walk in like Joe and Pun you know what I'm saying? Certain people got that presence you know where you got that superhero presence you know I don't want to say five but give me five albums that inspired you yeah yeah artists and now it ain't got to be top five and we start Purple Tate it's not his that's yours beloved I don't I don't like the five and the three you kind of got to do errors you got to do like errors I think errors is more fit because like the first time I remember the first time I heard Ain't No Half Stuff on the radio. The first time I heard that beat, I wanted to jump through the wall.
49:12We never heard nothing like that before. It was like, what is that? You know what I mean? And then by the time the video came out and all of this, video music box, I was for hire. Right? I was for hire. I was a terrible guy and I grew up with violence. And if you wanted people beat up, whatever you want. Mercenary Joe? Yeah, you come pick up Fat Joe and me. Right? Real talk. Yeah. Mercenary Joe. That's the name of the movie. They come. That's it. They come and say, Fat Joe, I'm going to buy you three pair of Jordans and a Pele. I need you to put in this work. And I would jump in the up end and they say the guy with the red shirt, anything in the world, I'd jump out there like Clash of the Type.
49:59That's what I did. Right? The first guy I met, I'm not saying a hitman. Let's eliminate that. One day, my reputation got out there so much. And he's my brother. This guy named Scarface Steve. He's the first kingpin I ever met. And so he came to my block looking for me at the Cherry Red 300 with the wide-body kit. And the reason I'm telling you this story is I'm a bum, okay? Like, I don't know if these people understand. I'm a bum. I was tough, but I had$2 in my pockets. If that might've been one, right? So he comes pick me up. You know, you thinking he's changing your life. That's like EF Hutton or some shit, right?
50:45So he pull up, yo, Fat Joe, yeah, yo, get in the car. I'm looking at the whole project, the block, like, yo, this nigga can't get me in this fucking Cherry Red Beds. And I locked the door. he had a white popped out and the shit just said on and on and on ain't no half stepping and the knees start driving off and you know how the dogs be in the car where they be having their head for the win I got my face out that window and I made them drive me 10 times around the projects on and on right? No. Man, that shit changed my life right there, man. Shout out to Steve, man. What a story. Listen, that ain't no half stepping.
51:41It's joints like that. You're right. It's Eros. It's Game Chills. I was talking about it the other day. When I was talking about it yesterday, Midnight Marauder's album, same thing. Yo, we drove around we drove back to Queens it's like one in the morning we hit daylight just back to back to just listening to the album like yo this is the most incredible you know moments like that the music just the music and the people making the music you understand what I'm saying the artist that's driving it what we're doing for not only ourselves and our family but what we're doing for this culture that we were bestowed, sort of passed on to us.
52:28You know what I mean? And I think, you know, we still in it, but we left it in great shape for the jungles. Yeah. They wanted it up right now. Crazy. Yeah, they just got to come outside to the yard. But listen, yo, Kiss, listen. You ever went to somebody's neighborhood, like you love an artist and you had to go there? Like, you didn't know them yet. rappers and you was like... Nah, I wasn't one of them niggas. I'm coming to Yael all the way up there. I wasn't to the... Maybe to Mount Vernon. See if you see Hev or something. I wasn't... I drove to Jay-Z. See you in Fordham or a concourse or something.
53:13Not real shit. Our shit was like 125th, 145th Jewman, Fordham, that was the then it switched to like Paracau. You guys are like connected to the Bronx. Like Yonkers is like a part of the Bronx. It's connected, literally. Yeah, yeah, I know. You go up to the Bronx, you keep going. It's Yonkers. I'll never forget. I had my man. He was running the Bronx. He's in jail 46 years. But he lived. His crib was on the low with Yonkers. Man, I fucked up, man. We did, it was the Source Awards. The Source Awards where Suge Knight, Dispuff Daddy, and all that shit, and Outkast won. So I gassed the nigga. He had the new 500 Benz.
54:04It was like, yo, pull it out. He was like, nah, Joe, this, I mean, the big shit, the pun you said, but I'm talking about a year before someone seen one humanly possible, and I was gassing the nigga. Yo, we got to pull up, Source Awards. Yo, man, we got on that highway. we crashed that fucking bend on the way to that fucking, that nigga wanted to kill me. Paralyze. Yo, fat boy, you made me crash this shit. Because it was like, you know, it's almost like a road, like, you know, that shit like you driving a boat. Them joys was heaven. Nobody had them shits. This shit was only, if you had a 300, you was the main man.
54:43The 500 big body shit, shit crashed up on the side of that shit from your, oh my God. I thought he was going to kill me. Then we had to go and get a regular car, just go to the Source Awards that day. But that shit, you know, I remember gassing them. You know, hey, it's good to know that you have different levels of that life. You know what I'm saying? You got to always remember those things when you had to ask your man to jump at his whip and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? It's a big deal, right? I'm pulling up Source Awards. I'm like, yo, shit going to be crazy, man. We need to fight.
55:18The man told me 30 times. Never made it. Boy. That's what I'm praying for. Never would have made it. Never would have made it. We fucked up. Where can they catch Moses the Black? Moses the Black is in theaters. Let's go, man. Let's get your ass out of your crib. Go to the theaters. Pay for some tickets. You know what I mean? Support our people. How soon till it gets in like the streaming apps and all? By the time this episode comes out, it's in theaters. No, it's in theaters. I'm just going to go to the app shortly. We got a hard out. This shit right here got to come out because the movie out because that shit will be in the Tappan Z Bridge before you know this shit.
56:04You guys right here. But go to the theater. You know, we talk about the theaters. It's about the experience. You know what I mean? It's going to see not only with your peoples, but people you don't know. Y 'all reacting to the same parts. You know, I'm two months straight, no carbs. You see me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the theater get me back into that Diet Coke, that popcorn. You got it. It's a glissing. You know the shit. Yeah.
56:38You can eat popcorn, no butter. Yeah, but it's a carb. You know, I ain't been fucking with carbs. No butter is not. But, yo, the movie theater, everybody to go in there to the movie theater go support. Moses the Black. You wanted that Marty Supreme and you're going to all that other shit. Yeah. We need you. All right, before we leave, I know it's time for you to go, but how proud are we of Tiana Taylor, man? Incredible. Incredibly proud, man. Tiana, you know, she from the town, but she is ridiculously talented. She always has been. And it's just so dope to see her get her just a just do and get these opportunities because she only getting started.
57:21You know what I mean? She looking like Viola Davis and all of them to me now and she's young. She young. So I'm like, you know, I feel like she moving AI. It's only one of her. It's just dope to see her get her just do and get those opportunities. She hitting home runs every time. So salute to Tiana. We proud of you. Love you. We proud of her too. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. Cracking kiss. Make some noise for all my abs, Blade. Thank you. Real. Thank you. Thank you for pulling up in six degree weather. Oh, of course. Shit real out there. It ain't nothing.
58:12Hey, guys. It's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy.
58:43Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be?, I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS.
59:21Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to fupas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me, or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season, and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
59:57If we didn't talk ever again, I was fine. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that, game seven, Marquis coming to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know it's all love. this was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to point game on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
From the publisher
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Omar Epps, whose new film 'Moses the Black' released across the United States on January 30th. The prolific actor tells Joe and Jada about working alongside Quavo and Wiz Khalifa on the 50 Cent-produced film, his iconic role in Juice alongside Tupac Shakur, working with LL Cool J on In Too Deep, going against the grain with his House role, and why he thinks it's time to retire the "pause" police.
Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX!
6:00 - Working with Tupac and LL Cool J
10:30 - Why he chose to do House
13:30 - Moses the Black
17:00 - Why Fat Joe changed his number
34:00 - Omar tells a Fat Joe story
38:00 - Star-studded household with Keisha Spivey from Total
43:30 - Most iconic performances by Black actors
48:30 - 5 albums that inspired Omar Epps
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